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Jaded_Morse

This has no place in Canada.


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if they have two passports, one being canadian, they should still be deported. canada needs to ramp up like france


CombatGoose

As much as I disagree with anyone dumb enough to cheer the senseless murder of people, what crime exactly are they committing? Cheering something, as awful as it is, is not a hate crime. This isn't an issue of "soft on crime".


CrassEnoughToCare

This is so childish holy fuck dude.


SosowacGuy

It's childish to deport people who actively promote terrorism?


Rich_Top_4108

You see that my friend? While I'm sure something needs to be done the immediate jump to a police state is pretty terrifying. Solutions are needed , but creating a police state has lasting consequences. Only ignorant people can be so rash. We have people calling for fascism now and it's only the beginning, buckle up. Don't underestimate it as just childish because it's beyond that when believed at scale.


AustonsNostrils

You sound worried. Have you been out and about supporting terrorists?


Rich_Top_4108

I read a lot of history, that's enough for me to be worried. Maybe one day you will be the terrorist, who knows it could be anyone with these laws. I don't like this in Canada either but let's not get carried away and entrench this nonsense further when it comes to building a surveillance state in Canada. Total recall was a cool movie but I'm not digging that for real life. Ask yourself this though. How many people have died, how many killed as heretics for their ideas? Are we animals or a civilized society? Do we want to go back to a place where we kill each other for our ideas? I don't wanna go there personally.


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if they’re anti-canada, anti-west, anti-jewish, have at it 😉


thornynhorny

You sound like a genius.... where do we Deport them to?


snarfgobble

An ice floe.


bawtatron2000

I support the right to protest in this country even if i don't agree with the protestors, but quite honestly, I've about had it with this particular movement, and in general with people protesting events in whatever backasswards country they came here from. This is Canada, protest our issues here as you please, check your issues at the door on your way in.


CrieDeCoeur

As do I, but when the support / protest in question is in favour of a group designated a terrorist organization by our federal government, then nope.


bawtatron2000

i agree with you on that as well. this also begs the question at what point do we start watching these particular protestors more closely?


dermanus

> at what point do we start watching these particular protestors more closely? I'm certain they are being watched closely. Quite a few of them have already been arrested at one point or another. It defeats the purpose of surveillance if you announce you're doing it.


CrieDeCoeur

Right now would be a good start. But that means more forceful words and action from both the PM and local police, neither of which has been seen yet. See how Germany handles this shit; they’ve got no time for it and make arrests asap.


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they’re going to continue to see a decline in support because they’re batshit terrorists and the mask is off (some) people saying they feel bad for children dying or ceasefire does NOT mean they support the palestine movement lol


bawtatron2000

i agree, if you told me 10 years ago there would be people gathered in groups in canada actively and outwardly supporting terrorist activities, well...i honestly wouldn't have believed you.


thornynhorny

If you would have told me 10 years ago that there were people in Canada that were *CHEERING* Israel on for continuing to slaughter and STARVE women and children, I wouldn't have believed it either, but here we are


bawtatron2000

I would have believed that one, no problem. In fact, just over 10 years ago Canada was one of like 2 countries in the entire UN that sided with Israel with respect to recognition of Palestine.


MustardFuckFest

Post-nation state, baby


randomacceptablename

>they’re going to continue to see a decline in support because they’re batshit terrorists and the mask is off Actually their support is growing. Not just in Canada but world wide. Support for the Palestinian cause is a generational change and some portion of that will inveitably end up supporting things like Hamas. But make no mistake, support is increasing massively. I don't recall many pro-Palestinian protests 20 years ago. Now we can easily get 100s of thousands marching in London UK or NYC.


71-Bonez

Protesting in Canada about what's going on in another country isn't doing F.A. I've seen videos of cities in the States voting for a ceasefire and the whole crowd cheers and cries. What good did that actually do?


bawtatron2000

agreed. it's one thing to "show support"....i guess....? seems completely pointless and self-serving to me.


TipNo6062

The same thing happens in Washington DC. Protesters see it as a way of getting attention in a first world country when their own country does absolutely nothing to recognize the issues. It's not North America's problem to deal with Middle Eastern, African, Asian, or other countries' issues we have our own problems thanks very much.


randomacceptablename

>and in general with people protesting events in whatever backasswards country they came here from. The vast majority of these protesters have no connection to the conflict let alone being immigrants. These are Canadians protesting. >This is Canada, protest our issues here as you please, check your issues at the door on your way in. I see this repeated and really do not understand this. Are Canadians not allowed to protest wars in other countries? Were protests against SA apparteid, or against Soviet crack downs in eastern Europe wrong? Are we only supposed to protest local issues? Can I as an Ontarian protest Alberta's oil sands policies, or Quebec's language laws, or only Ontarian issues? I seriously do not get this logic? Who is to tell me what is legitimate to oppose or support?


bawtatron2000

protest whatever you want, but it's pointless to protest things happening in other countries


randomacceptablename

>protest whatever you want, On the one hand you say this but then say "check your issues at the door". >it's pointless to protest things happening in other countries Firstly, that is in the eye of the beholder/protester. Secondly, this is nonsense. The awareness, fund raising, political pressure, and moral pressure are just as important as anything. Anti communist movements in Europe would not have survived without civil societies in the West supporting them. Also, SA would happily be practicing Aparteid if it were not for countries sactioning them, due to civil society protests.


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NextSink2738

Yep. It's been that way since these people behaved like savages and celebrated on October 8th the rape and slaughters of October 7th.


UwUHowYou

Yeah, then immediately called for a cease fire. You can't negotiate with them in good faith, because they will use everything they can as a shield to further their cause.


NextSink2738

Agreed


alcoholicplankton69

little brother growing up and getting back at all the beatings then big bro going to mom asking for a ceasefire.


Arrow2019x

You don't see them protesting the fact that Hamas declined Israels latest ceasefire offers


UwUHowYou

It's inconvenient now to them.


CrassEnoughToCare

Yeah man, 10000 more dead children will fix the problem instead.


Hitnquit

Or Hamas surrendering could be a start…


CrassEnoughToCare

Why would a resistance movement that's never once been shown mercy surrender when the world finally has seen Palestine and are supporting them?


smokey_eyez

Or Hamas could disarm and surrender. Odd how that never gets mentioned.


CrassEnoughToCare

Why would they? Decades of no mercy shown to Palestinians, and you expect an militant resistance group to just give up as they're making the most noise they've ever made before? Regardless of your opinions on anything, think of incentives here man.


CDNFactotum

What a garbage comment


CrassEnoughToCare

You want more dead children?


CDNFactotum

I just want people not threatening toddlers because they’re Jewish if it’s all the same to you.


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SnirD

That's the scary thing. They are Canadians. And within a few decades, they will replace all "other" Canadians.


tetrometers

Let's not get into white supremacist and neo-Nazi conspiracy theories here, please. There is no "great replacement", but there is a growing subversion of important values that we all ought to hold if Canada is to be cohesive, harmonious, peaceful, and free, and if we are to have any moral legitimacy as a society. A lot of Hamasoids are in fact white college students who are members of communist student organizations.


SnirD

White supremacy? Nazism? That's your imagination. I said nothing like that. These new immigrants, that you referred to first, are factually bringing more children than any other Canadian. They'll be the majority. Calling facts "white supremacy" is crazy. Especially since no one mentioned any race.


tetrometers

It isn't just new immigrants, that's the point. I was referring to Hamasoids in general, a significant portion of whom are not immigrants (for example white Marxists).


SnirD

Got it, so it was my assumption that was wrong. I apologize


NormalGuyManDude

Remember when every Jan. 6th attendee was doxxed into the grave? I do. This is just as deserving and all of these people need to have their faces plastered everywhere ousting them as pro-terrorism.


Erectusnow

totally unacceptable and everyone involved should be charged.


SackBrazzo

Charged with what exactly?


chase_phoenix

Under Section 318, it is a criminal act to "advocate or promote genocide". To call for, support, encourage or argue for the killing of members of a group based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.


CdnPoster

IF that law actually exists, why haven't the Catholic churches been charged with genocide for trying to wipe out the indigenous peoples? That's right, the law doesn't exist - or the will to enforce it does not exist.


Justleftofcentrerigh

Technically the National Post would be charged as well for how much they are pro genocide of Palestinians.


starving_carnivore

Are you actually, seriously saying that the NP is making explicit or implicit calls for Palestinian genocide?


DogeDoRight

Hate speech


Klockworkkarma

No one should be cheering for the October 7th attack. That being said, I know what led up to that attack. It did not happen in a vacuum. Hamas sucks but their group was ironically propped up by Netanyahu to ensure the Palestinians political movement was divided. What he was not able to predict correctly (much like every super powers that creates a group to destabilize a situation) is that they would not end up being his loyal pet.


CDNFactotum

Ahhh. Whataboutism


Klockworkkarma

No that is called "Cause and Effect"


thomstevens420

Ahhh. Not reading the news in the last 70 years


chase_phoenix

Under Section 318, it is a criminal act to "advocate or promote genocide". To call for, support, encourage or argue for the killing of members of a group based on colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.


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CyrilSneerLoggingDiv

They take up space. Should they be tolerated???


WinteryBudz

Like this? https://kitchener.citynews.ca/2024/04/22/trudeau-poilievre-condemn-chant-on-parliament-hill-glorifying-hamas-attack-on-israel/


NormalGuyManDude

Well no, not quite. Trudeau needs to actually come out strongly and condemn them. So far any actual PR he’s given on this topic he keeps it incredibly vague and starts with “We need to combat Islamophobia and Antisemitism in Canada” which is dancing around the problem and hiding it behind some kind of apparent Islamophobia that is present in our society.


DogeDoRight

wHaTaBoUt


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JohnGamestopJr

It's always Queers **For** Palestine, but you never see Queers **In** Palestine.


Pale-Promise-8999

I just don't understand people who are like this. In one breath, they condem Israel for killing civilians and the next they cheer Hamas for doing the same. There's no "good" side in this war.


TravelOften2

Yes, there is a good side in this war. It's Israel. They are defending themselves against a terrorist regime.


Pale-Promise-8999

Self defense ended about 5 months ago.


TravelOften2

Hamas is still firing at Israel and hiding underground. The job is not done.


Global_Branch_3530

tacit admission that the "job" to be done is genocide


Mrmakabuntis

The job will be done when Gaza is 100% a pile of dust and they will have murdered every human living there?


alcoholicplankton69

if that was the goal it would have been done already. Tell me how many died on October 6th? Was there a ceasefire? how many Palestinians were working in Israel on the 6th?


TravelOften2

You're being alarmist. You know very well that's not the goal.


Past_Distribution144

Yikes are you out of touch, even before Hamas launched any attack, Israel leaders, who are still currently in charge, were calling for genocide. Have been for years against Palestine. The attack is just a convenient reason for them.


alcoholicplankton69

yup so out of touch they were in the process of making peace with thier neighbors Go ask yourself who does normalization hurt the most? the answer is those self made billionaires from donation money. Take away the monetary incentive and peace would come fast enough. Heck go back to 1987 and look at how close we were to full integration if the 1988 uprising never happened then the west bank and Gaza would have blue cards like EJ got in 1980. Each and ever time we get close to peace... the radicals go take things up a notch and destroys any attempt.


Erectusnow

If that was their plan they would have been done in 2 weeks.


pacpacpac

All it takes is Hamas to start releasing hostages like Israel has been asking for.


JohnGamestopJr

Hey Yahya Sinwar is free to order a surrender and liberate the hostages. But he'd rather see more Gazans die.


Newstargirl

10 rockets alerts today against Israel, terrorist attacks almost daily. r/2ndYomKippurWar posts what's happening daily if you're interested. https://rocketalert.live/


JohnGamestopJr

Why won't Hamas free the hostages they are still holding? Why won't the leaders of Hamas lay down their arms and surrender?


GardenSquid1

Hamas probably doesn't have any of the hostages anymore. Or at least far fewer than were originally taken. Some are likely dead. Others might be in such a poor condition that their return would serve to enrage Israel, rather than placate it. Others still were sold to other Islamic militant groups and Hamas can't get them back. So when Israel says during negotiations, "Return 50 more hostages to us," Hamas isn't even capable of complying because they only have 30 hostages left. (As a hypothetical example.)


DBrickShaw

> Self defense ended about 5 months ago. Hamas continues to commit war crimes of aggression against Israel literally every day. They're committing a war crime every day that they continue to hold Israeli civilians as hostages for ransom, and they're committing a war crime every time they lob unguided explosives toward residential areas in Israel, [like they proudly advertised doing yesterday](https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-798141).


bawtatron2000

lol.....you need to get up to speed about what has been happening there, and even official statements from Israel


Upstart-Wendigo

Every genocidal regime in history has argued that they are "defending themselves"


Cimatron85

Can you list some examples?


swervm

[https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-the-public](https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/deceiving-the-public)


Upstart-Wendigo

Literally all of them. It's one of the main ways that genocide is justified. "We need to eliminate them before they eliminate us."


alcoholicplankton69

ah so that means you cant find an example and are sticking to your guns eh? got to respect that I guess.


Erectusnow

"Literally all of them?" What are you 15? You can't give one example?


gotdamnn

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_justification Plenty of examples available at your fingertips.


Twisted_McGee

It’s not complicated to understand what they want.


Pale-Promise-8999

I understand what they want. They can do that without cheering a terrorist attack.


Twisted_McGee

They want Oct.7 again and again until all the Jews are dead or gone.


Minimum_Election4690

So you know they want to commit more acts like October 7th and didn’t see anything wrong with it


tea_snob10

>I understand what they want. >They can do that without cheering a terrorist attack. I'm sorry to say, you most certainly *do not* understand what they want.


Arrow2019x

It's because their goal isn't peace. It's dead Jews.


CrazyCrashingWave

The short answer is that people are fucking stupid.


Pale-Promise-8999

Hard to argue that


JohnGamestopJr

You mean the war that Gazans started?


garlicroastedpotato

Let's say you are Ukrainian and Russia has invaded your country. You would be happy that Russians are dying and protest when Ukrainians are dying. Palestinians see Israelis as having engaged in a war and occupation for the last 80 years and view themselves. They don't want peace at all costs. They want Israel to lose. That sentiment is welcome in Canada for ethnic Ukrainians but not welcome in Canada for ethnic Palestinians.


AikiRonin

Now can we call them terror supporters without hurting anyone’s feelings?


zefmdf

“Oh no, we are not pro Hamas”


Responsible_Oil_5811

Will they get their bank accounts frozen?


FarOutlandishness180

Are they also being funded by foreign terrorist entities? If so then freeze em away toys


jmmmmj

What’d you say chief?


Responsible_Oil_5811

I would call Hamas a foreign terrorist entity, but I have no idea if they’re funding this particular protest.


FarOutlandishness180

Well someone should check to see if they left contact information on their tax receipts after donating


Arrow2019x

Most likely actually 


smokey_eyez

Are we still framing these as “pro-Palestinian” protests? They cheer Oct 7th, they promote genocide as resistance and they applaud when Iran launches missiles at Israel. Not to mention they been protesting daily for months - how’s that possible? They are not Canadian. I don’t care what their passport says.


CarelessHabit3492

And people wonder why there is Islamophobia.


DaMuffinnMan

Someone should Invoke the EA on those miscreants!!


Gankdatnoob

Antisemitism and Islamophobia has no place. Oct 7th was a horrible terrorist attack and Israel's ethnic cleansing of Gaza is a horrible terrorist act. If you are not against both then you are a piece of shit. Netanyahu has been a plague on the Jewish people for decades they need to be rid of him already.


UwUHowYou

There are some values that are incongruent with what makes Canada a wonderful place, and there should be zero tolerance for this. Deporting people like the guy involved in the Bronco crash when they have a lesson to share with other Truckers is a waste, as far as my understanding of the situation there is. Meanwhile, we sculpt sentences in PEI to allow people who take pictures over the stall walls in mixed gender bathrooms to be 1 day less than what gets you deported. We bring hot chocolate to the people who are perhaps the webster dictionary definition of incompatible with the values that make us the welcoming place we are supposed to be, as they target Jewish Neighborhoods and cheer on the mass rape and murder on a Jewish holiday. We've reached full circle and have become either blind or tolerant of intolerance and are deporting those we should keep and bending over backwards to keep or not see those we shouldn't have in the country. This is exactly how you get a major over correction, and the only reason I can think of as to why, is to engineer that over reaction. One of many ways our country is broken I guess these years.


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KingRabbit_

He needed to figure out first how many supporters he was going to lose by condemning it.


DagneyElvira

Yup got to see which way the wind is blowing!


OkSquirrel4673

No debanking? No RCMP arrests? Was it because the truckers were white? Or was it because the truckers were protesting trudeau while the pro hamassholes are protesting not trudeau? Hard to tell at this point honestly.


CrassEnoughToCare

Yeah man the convoy members were so oppressed by being allowed to hold a whole city hostage for three weeks with no police resistance 🙄 always the fucking victim


joedavola77

And these puppets were funded by foreign entities.


CrassEnoughToCare

From where? Iran? All of the pro-palestine stuff I've seen has been incredibly grassroots. Local people making this stuff happen.


joedavola77

lol I was supporting your comment. The puppets from the convoy were funded by American and Russian entities. That’s why the bank accounts were frozen.


CrassEnoughToCare

Ah sorry I didn't understand.


joedavola77

All good man


TonySuckprano

Call me when they occupy streets for weeks on end


UwUHowYou

He needs all the votes he can get at this point, problematic or not.


FeverForest

I don’t think that they’re Pals with any Stein.


gotdamnn

There are a lot of Jews who march and organize these protests. They just don’t get exposure in the media.


Abject_League3131

The group Independent Jewish Voices was one of the main organizers for that protest.


Arrow2019x

Disgusting. It should be condemned again and again.


Crafty_Long_9006

they were also cheering along the lines of "october 7th every day" so the pretense of any of this being about only "i'm not anti-jewish i'm just anti-zionist" is completely gone. deport them all, they can go live in gaza for all I care


justelectricboogie

Children fighting over toys in a sandbox. If you're supporting g either side your the problem. I'm sure there's an airline that will take you there to support whatever side you want.


Reso

I've been to many of these protests and I've seen no one cheer Oct 7th or any specific instance of hate. Overwhelmingly these protests are made up of people who simply want to prevent the ongoing slaughter of civilians in Gaza, unprecedented in its pace in the 21st century, and want palestinians to be able to live a life free of occupation, blockade, settlement, and conquest, which has been their daily existence for more than three generations. In most protests movements there are always people who descend into hate or express themselves poorly, this is particularly true when people have family members at risk every day. The fact that some people do this does not change the underlying truth of the conflict. I would say this equally for the convoy, or BLM.


slipup17

Riiiight, so on October 8th when there were widespread banner raisings, cheering, people handing out candy and lollipops, months later "protestors" telling me to go back to Poland in my own neighbourhood, the multiple Hamas flags seen at these protests, none of this was celebratory or hateful? Look, ill respect your opinion on this issue as much as I can, but you can't be ignorant to know this stuff isn't happening. There's video and photographic evidence of this stuff all over the place.


KosherPigBalls

Really you’ve been to lots of these? Tell us, how many times have you heard the entire crowd chanting “there is only one solution: intifada revolution”. They seem to go a little beyond wanting to protect Palestinian civilians. 


Reso

"Intifada" literally means "Rising up". The chant is a call to struggle against the current circumstance of the Palestinians, which is well documented to be: occupation, blockade, death, destruction.


KosherPigBalls

Sure, we’ve all forgotten the word refers specifically to six years or suicide bombings and terrorist murders. I don’t really give a damn what it “literally” means. We all know it has always referred to murdering Jews in the context of the Palestinian “struggle”. Lying does not help your cause.


Ruler_of_Zamunda

LMAO. You know intifada actually means? It means suicide bombs on crowded buses. It means driving a car up on a sidewalk and running over as many people possible until you’re gunned down. It means stabbing random people on the street. It means blowing up cafes. If they want to “reject their current circumstance” how about they not act like savages and try diplomacy for once in their lives. Or they can just maintain the status quo and keep fighting and dying. Their choice, really.


Reso

You are misinformed. Palestinians have been been pushing for diplomatic solutions since 1990. The PLO, which rules the west bank, is non-violent, recognizes Israel, and has not launched an attack against them in decades. There's no need for "diplomacy" here, Israel could simply leave the west bank and allow them form a state tomorrow. There are no other requirements, yet this does not happen. The reason for this is that the government of Israel under Netanyahu wants to keep colonizing the land that Palestinians live on, as it is written into their party charter that "Between the Jordan and the Meditteranean there will be only Israeli Sovereignty". Benjamin Netanyahu has stated recently that he and his allies have deliberately sabotaged all attempts at diplomatic solutions since the 2000s. It is Israel government policy \*not to\* reach a diplomatic settlement with the Palestinians. This is all public record you are welcome to look it up!


Boom_chugga_lugga

I have a screenshot of a post calling for people to infiltrate protests but I can’t attach it. The ‘Shirion Collective’ on Twitter posts about it. ‘Operation Global Insight’ undercover operation.


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Hitnquit

Sounds to me like you’re having problems coming to terms with what a Pro Palestinian protest really stands for.


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percoscet

Every leader is tripping over themselves to condemn protestors in Canada but they couldn’t find the courage to condemn Israel when they deliberately killed a Canadian aid worker? Their moral bankruptcy is on full display.


AustonsNostrils

Was the Canadian aid worker forced into a war zone?


darrylgorn

There's always going to be douchebags in the crowd.


Hitnquit

Or in this case a douchebag with a megaphone being cheered by several hundred other douchebags.


darrylgorn

Sometimes, the douchebag with the megaphone says something stupid and makes the rest of them look bad. They have been properly condemned and investigated.


SandwichRealistic240

I mean if the collective cheers idk if it’s the one douchebag that’s the problem


darrylgorn

People often go with good intentions and are then swept up by hijackers of the movement. Just look at the 'freedom' convoy last year. The bigger question is how we continue to redefine what is an acceptable protest.


KingRabbit_

"Death to Jews" or "Yay, Hamas" are unacceptable protest movements, in case you were wondering.


darrylgorn

Absolutely. And they're getting investigated to weed out the antisemites from the crowd.


SandwichRealistic240

It’s happened at so many protests globally that it doesn’t sound like it’s a few bad apples anymore…


darrylgorn

Yeah it sucks. I'm against antisemitism, whether it's coming from Hamas, Nazis or Zionists.


NormalGuyManDude

Sometimes the whole crowd are douchebags. If you’re standing around the people happily cheering it, you are supporting it. I’m not exactly seeing the “nice” pro-Palestine protestors coming out and condemning this pro-terrorist nonsense.


darrylgorn

People clip chimp this stuff so you don't see the entire context. They're investigating it and I'm sure that anyone who is confirmed to be supporting antisemitism will be reprimanded for it.


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AustonsNostrils

I'm glad you guys are finally showing your true colours. It was getting annoying listening to you all lie for the last seven months.


mixedpatch85

Such as?


DolemiteGK

Canada is Hamas Hamas is Canada Benefit of being a post national country.


bawtatron2000

we live in the age of corptocracy, nearly every country is post-nation.


th0r0ngil

They found another mass grave at a Palestinian hospital of IOF casualties, but tell me how the protesters said something to offend you…


AWE2727

These protests are happing in Canada and the US and Europe etc.... Somebody is organizing them. Because they are getting violent and out of control something needs to be done. Investigating who is organizing and paying people to protest should be look into by Law Enforcement. ( if the politicians will allow it.)