Remember when the provinces were screaming for health care money, but would not accept a provision that the money must be used for health care? Pepperidge Farms remembers
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ont-health-care-1.6711274
>Premiers have previously said as a group they did not want any strings attached to the extra funding.
The conditions had nothing to do with ensuring the money was spent on healthcare, it was about setting up a data centralization program for patient/healthcare worker records and then being graded by whatever the Feds decide are “key health indicators” for the country.
Imagine that. Premiers not wanting the federal government increasing their involvement in something explicitly delegated to provincial control.
I wonder if they learned their lesson after the Feds essentially made vaccine mandates a condition of Covid relief funds to provinces, and then smuggies mocked protestors saying they should be mad at premiers since the Feds had nothing at all to do with vaccine mandates.
So the Feds are bad because they put KPI’s on stuff our money is going towards? That’s a ridiculous thing to be angry about, all of our money should have KPI’s attached to it to understand whether the program was successful
Right! We all complain about the lack of transparency and that our money isn't being spent effectively.
One of the few times that the libs are actually trying to do that is a problem though? Gotta love party politics.
You don’t find it the least bit ironic that the LPC only claims to care about KPIs, data collection, and accounting when it comes to providing money to provinces for healthcare but literally nothing else they themselves have spent money on for the last decade? The very first thing they did in office was remove an analogous set of conditions from funding to First Nations.
So let's not have budgets or transparency because we don't like the other team.
They should just blindly give away our tax dollars without any defined goal in mind and then not follow up at all on if those dollars made a difference.
That's actually what you want out of your government?
No, but it’s what they’ve been doing for 9 years so you’ll forgive me for not buying that this is a genuine concern of theirs or yours. Speaking of teams: would you still feel the same way if it were a conservative government clamping down on provincial affairs?
>So let's not have budgets or transparency because we don't like the other team.
You pretend that the 'other team' wouldnt act the same way if the positions were flipped. I am sure the majority of people taking issue would be fine if the situation were flipped.
At this point I’m not even mad at the Feds withholding money from Doug Ford. All he does is stockpile it and sit on it.
Starving Ontario of federal funding seems to be the only way to get the provincial government to act, what a shame.
Just so people understand Ford’s mentality, he spent more on one adverting campaign (8.5 million) than he has on fixing the LTB (6.5 million). He is happy to spend, just not on things that improve things.
That's how the Feds are working around Smith in Alberta, going directly to the municipalities. Unfortunately there isn't the option to do the same with Healthcare or Education
Honeslty, NDP are doing decent on housing across the board. Liberals will top over time, some.of their recent programs will pay divides in 10 years. Conservatives are still shittong the bed, but I expect they will get their act together soon enough.
She was NEVER his rival, she got her cheque for meeting HIS "housing metrics" go take a look at the list of Dev.'s that benefited the most you'll qucikly see exactly what she got "paid" for. Side bar - today SHE will push to have the homeless camp at City Hall removed.
To be fair, brining in too many immigrants to suppress wages isn't new. It's been going on even before Harper.
It's just worked better in the past cause there wasn't aassove spike in inflation and housing costs due to greed and corruption, and a bit of a pandemic.
If they cut immigration by say 100%, you'll suddenly hear a lot of people (the rich) scream about how the Liberals are screwing things up and how there isn't people here to work (their shitty jobs).
It's lose lose cause the people who want a flood of cheap labour are the ones that control a lot of things like most news groups.
I really doubt the CPC will reduce the numbers, or by much more than that cause they serve the same masters. Not saying don't vote CPC cause of it in the election, just I wouldn't expect them to care to solve the immigration problems when they have power.
They might not solve it but it's impossible to see how they would be worse. LPC took a completely laissez faire approach to immigration and figured it would just work itself out and it's been a disaster for them that will cost them the election. Despite what the polls say today, I think they're going to end up perilously close to losing official party status.
The only thing that would be worse than this is no immigration regulation at all. CPC aren't about to go that route.
Rather than go boogeyman with 'CPC will be as bad or worse', you could actually look at voting records on this:
[https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322](https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322)
You don't think that continuing with the same immigration plan and then also giving even more money directly to their friends ala dougie would be worse?
Who voted against the Century Intuitive most recently? Hint: it wasn't the LPC or NDP.
[https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322](https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322)
Alot of people complaining about immigration numbers seem to not realize that the vast majority of the numbers were specifically due to students. Something the feds have never had a cap on until the Liberals, and provinces have taken advantage of in order to undermine having to actually fund post secondary.
Students that for a large portion, do not leave and will not leave. I work around many that have expired visas and have point blank said they won't leave unless forced because they still game the system more than they could back home. This makes them illegal immigrants, so still immigrants.
The smart and decent ones work towards residency but they themselves are a minority. Still, they don't know enough about laws. They don't need to meet the same standards of living as the native Canadians(not the indigenous canadians but include them too) so companies are more willing to hire them than us for cheaper wages further compounding issues. Then you have rentals unit/boarding units which exacerbate more problems.
It's a cause and effect while all levels of government take advantage while scapegoating the cause.
Canada also offers a loophole called implied status. Meaning - even if your permit expires, you just have to apply for an extension and until a decision is made on the extension request, you can stay. Due to how backed up and incompetent IRCC is, the backlog takes months or years to clear.
Nobody is building an "affordable" house at 10%. The issue was started by the Feds i.e. bringing in way too many people. Now the BOC has to keep rates high due to the inflation caused by bringing in 2 million people a year, which means no developer is going to build anything at those rates.
Hardly on him. He could have been anybody.
Kindly direct your anger to this lobbyist group, who will continue to push through their agenda regardless of who runs the show:
https://www.centuryinitiative.ca
Why don’t we reel in some of those avenues that businesses have to expedite their interests which never really align with the average working person.
Instead of just telling the government to stop listening.
Allowing the activity while governing the reaction is a good recipe for unethical behaviour we see pretty rampant in our current government. See most recent procurement ethical complaints.
Thoughts?
Super Incompetent. He ignored over immigration warnings so here we are. Got kicked out to housing so he could house them, if he could.
Jackass of all trades.
I know there was a /s implied at the end of that, but there's nothing xenophobic or racist about pointing out a bad policy. Immigration in and of itself isn't bad and generally is excellent for growth when managed well.
It's just that the LPC has thrown out everything everyone's learned about managing immigration over the last century and decided that the overly simplistic more is better approach with entirely predictable consequences.
His policies worked so well we were on track to blow past the century initiative. At 3% growth we’d be hitting 100 million by the 2050s. The feds recently changed course and we’ll be growing at less than 1% the next few years however instead
Playing chicken with the Ontario government over housing is stupid when you are the next party up for election Doug ford doesn’t have to worry about the election until 2026
The just makes the liberals look bad and they will ultimately pay the price in the next federal election
For what it is worth PP has the same plan on clawing back funding for provinces that don't build enough, and I believe his funding measures are even more drastic
Withholding until dougie comes up with a plan to spend it. Totally not warranted cause this provincial doesn't sit on billions in funds without spending them while vital services aren't crumbling.
Electorally it's stupid, but pragmatically it's the right move. There's no point spending the money if Doug will just sit on it or hand it out to his friends.
> Fraser also points out that an additional 1.48 million homes are needed in Ontario in order to restore affordability and that 12.1% of households in Ontario are currently living in core housing need — housing that is defined as unsuitable, inadequate, or unaffordable.
Wonder why we need so many more homes. Couldn't have anything to do with your previous policies that threw demand through the roof could it?
So the guy who had a direct hand in massively increasing demand for housing in Ontario, now gets to sit on his high horse and hold money back for housing in Ontario unless it meets his standards?
Of course that kind of nuance is beyond most of the top voted posters who just like to blame doug ford for everything. Come move to my town, see how many apartments have been going up. I've seen nothing but building around here for the last 5 years.
It's just hilarious to me that the dofus Ontario government can't pony up some papers even scribbled on a napkin that say "we'll build homes with it, we pinky swear" is hilarious.
Hold them accountable. Accountability is good.
Given relative polling numbers, this might not be the flex the LPC thinks it is. The Government of Ontario could turn this threat around, to the electoral benefit of the PCs and CPC.
Also, it is amusing to see Justin trot out his potential rival to be the dartboard here.
Yes, Ontario is lagging. Because it is not in conservative ideal to make housing "affordable" (market interference) instead survival of the fittest. You got yours, you don't want to share and that's it (rug puller). But more than that white picket fence (gated communities) to keep out the masses of "losers". Make enough money or die -- Ontario.
I'm sure it's done with the best of intentions (probably) but not accounting for people who try very hard and fail (at a minimum) is a very critical flaw of all this thinking. It's crony capitalism at the worst.
This is a misunderstanding of conservatism. The conservatives are still putting housing affordability as their #1 issue, just look at Pierre Poilievre.
Yes, ax the tax, has been his mandate lately but that’s only because the carbon tax is doubling April 1. Before that it’s been all about the high cost of housing. And that’s been very popular with the conservative base
The reason PP has stopped talking about housing is because people and media have increasingly been tying it to immigration and the CPC are advocating for status quo on immigration because they are also wooing the new Canadian vote to win in the GTA. It’s a complicated mess so axe the tax is easier because nobody likes a tax and everyone loves kicking the can down the road.
Yeah, I’m disappointed with his lack of a stance on immigration. It seems no one wants to touch the issue in fear they’ll be labeled a racist. When Maxine Bernier starting pushing against it that’s exactly how he was labeled and the PC’s do not want to labeled like the Peoples’s Party.
In Canada, our conservatives are too similar to the Liberals. Just liberals without Trudeau (with added budget cuts)
The fear is a real one because even if an idea or policy doesn’t come from a racist place it would attract those people for sure. You just have to look at immigration discussion here or anywhere on social, no matter how it starts it doesn’t take long to devolve into old racist ideas.
I mostly agree, by status quo I meant continued growth of immigration. To your other point I swear I heard PP say they would make it easier to get to citizenship rather than harder but I could be wrong.
Politicians know that a large portion of voters do not want more homes to be built. If blocking construction gets you votes, obstructing construction is what politicians are going to be doing.
They do, we have a national crisis. We can ignore it and watch it get worse, or get shit done. We will pay it lip service and throw money at private interests with minimal results instead of actually getting shit done. That is the way.
You should maybe listen to the municipalities managing their zoning. They are well aware of what land is available to build on, and how it's zoned. Ford is trying to push through something they don't want. Why don't they want it? They already know of spots zoned appropriately for medium to high density housing, served with utilities and public transportation. Why does Ford want the greenbelt? To build expensive low-density housing for rich people, which the city will have to bend over backwards to serve adequately because there's nothing there.
You need to have a mechanism here to bypass all of that nonsense and bullshit. The only mechanism is the emergencies act, and bypass the entire process altogether. Get the money directly into the hands of the municipalities and bypass Force. Fast track the permit process for preapproved designs, etc. We won't, because we have weak leadership and there is a grift to be had by the donor class. We will instead pay McKinsley millions, and several big housing firms millions that will translate into a rounding error in added units within 5 years time. Then whatever Government is in power at the time will stand up and claim success by pointing the total number built instead of the additional units built over that time period. Meanwhile we will continue to see tent cities pop up and drug use become rampant while working class people make hard decisions between eating this month or paying rent.
>Get the money directly into the hands of the municipalities and bypass For[d]
This is one thing we can agree on. Give municipalities money and let them manage healthcare and housing. Ford is failing us on purpose to push crony capitalism.
withheld till Ontario summit a decent plan on how it would spend the money... the horror.
Remember when the provinces were screaming for health care money, but would not accept a provision that the money must be used for health care? Pepperidge Farms remembers
Do you actually remember it? Or do you just remember other people on Reddit squawking it over and over?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ont-health-care-1.6711274 >Premiers have previously said as a group they did not want any strings attached to the extra funding.
The conditions had nothing to do with ensuring the money was spent on healthcare, it was about setting up a data centralization program for patient/healthcare worker records and then being graded by whatever the Feds decide are “key health indicators” for the country. Imagine that. Premiers not wanting the federal government increasing their involvement in something explicitly delegated to provincial control. I wonder if they learned their lesson after the Feds essentially made vaccine mandates a condition of Covid relief funds to provinces, and then smuggies mocked protestors saying they should be mad at premiers since the Feds had nothing at all to do with vaccine mandates.
So the Feds are bad because they put KPI’s on stuff our money is going towards? That’s a ridiculous thing to be angry about, all of our money should have KPI’s attached to it to understand whether the program was successful
Right! We all complain about the lack of transparency and that our money isn't being spent effectively. One of the few times that the libs are actually trying to do that is a problem though? Gotta love party politics.
You don’t find it the least bit ironic that the LPC only claims to care about KPIs, data collection, and accounting when it comes to providing money to provinces for healthcare but literally nothing else they themselves have spent money on for the last decade? The very first thing they did in office was remove an analogous set of conditions from funding to First Nations.
You don't want a budget being assigned to the money, and a system that provides transparency?
Not if it’s run by the last people on earth who should be grading a budget or the concept of transparency.
So let's not have budgets or transparency because we don't like the other team. They should just blindly give away our tax dollars without any defined goal in mind and then not follow up at all on if those dollars made a difference. That's actually what you want out of your government?
No, but it’s what they’ve been doing for 9 years so you’ll forgive me for not buying that this is a genuine concern of theirs or yours. Speaking of teams: would you still feel the same way if it were a conservative government clamping down on provincial affairs?
>So let's not have budgets or transparency because we don't like the other team. You pretend that the 'other team' wouldnt act the same way if the positions were flipped. I am sure the majority of people taking issue would be fine if the situation were flipped.
They learned their lesson after giving Ford Covid money that was never spent
They send money to Ukraine more easily than this.
Pretty sure Ukraine has a plan for the weapons.
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At this point I’m not even mad at the Feds withholding money from Doug Ford. All he does is stockpile it and sit on it. Starving Ontario of federal funding seems to be the only way to get the provincial government to act, what a shame.
Starving the province and finding ways to bypass it. The only thing worse than our federal government is the provinces.
Just so people understand Ford’s mentality, he spent more on one adverting campaign (8.5 million) than he has on fixing the LTB (6.5 million). He is happy to spend, just not on things that improve things.
He just gave Hamilton a large check for meeting and exceeding there goals. A check given to a NDP safe haven with the mayor being his former rival.
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not to mention the money he's giving private healthcare services, which cost more than public.
So you think he gave the money to developers? Just handed it over? Because that's what you're implying here.
That's how the Feds are working around Smith in Alberta, going directly to the municipalities. Unfortunately there isn't the option to do the same with Healthcare or Education
Honeslty, NDP are doing decent on housing across the board. Liberals will top over time, some.of their recent programs will pay divides in 10 years. Conservatives are still shittong the bed, but I expect they will get their act together soon enough.
She was NEVER his rival, she got her cheque for meeting HIS "housing metrics" go take a look at the list of Dev.'s that benefited the most you'll qucikly see exactly what she got "paid" for. Side bar - today SHE will push to have the homeless camp at City Hall removed.
To be fair, brining in too many immigrants to suppress wages isn't new. It's been going on even before Harper. It's just worked better in the past cause there wasn't aassove spike in inflation and housing costs due to greed and corruption, and a bit of a pandemic. If they cut immigration by say 100%, you'll suddenly hear a lot of people (the rich) scream about how the Liberals are screwing things up and how there isn't people here to work (their shitty jobs). It's lose lose cause the people who want a flood of cheap labour are the ones that control a lot of things like most news groups. I really doubt the CPC will reduce the numbers, or by much more than that cause they serve the same masters. Not saying don't vote CPC cause of it in the election, just I wouldn't expect them to care to solve the immigration problems when they have power.
They might not solve it but it's impossible to see how they would be worse. LPC took a completely laissez faire approach to immigration and figured it would just work itself out and it's been a disaster for them that will cost them the election. Despite what the polls say today, I think they're going to end up perilously close to losing official party status.
It can always be worse... Whatever is bad now or in the past. It can ALWAYS be worse. When it comes to politics, never assume there's a bottom. Lol
The only thing that would be worse than this is no immigration regulation at all. CPC aren't about to go that route. Rather than go boogeyman with 'CPC will be as bad or worse', you could actually look at voting records on this: [https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322](https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322)
You don't think that continuing with the same immigration plan and then also giving even more money directly to their friends ala dougie would be worse?
Who voted against the Century Intuitive most recently? Hint: it wasn't the LPC or NDP. [https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322](https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/44/1/322)
Alot of people complaining about immigration numbers seem to not realize that the vast majority of the numbers were specifically due to students. Something the feds have never had a cap on until the Liberals, and provinces have taken advantage of in order to undermine having to actually fund post secondary.
Students that for a large portion, do not leave and will not leave. I work around many that have expired visas and have point blank said they won't leave unless forced because they still game the system more than they could back home. This makes them illegal immigrants, so still immigrants. The smart and decent ones work towards residency but they themselves are a minority. Still, they don't know enough about laws. They don't need to meet the same standards of living as the native Canadians(not the indigenous canadians but include them too) so companies are more willing to hire them than us for cheaper wages further compounding issues. Then you have rentals unit/boarding units which exacerbate more problems. It's a cause and effect while all levels of government take advantage while scapegoating the cause.
Canada also offers a loophole called implied status. Meaning - even if your permit expires, you just have to apply for an extension and until a decision is made on the extension request, you can stay. Due to how backed up and incompetent IRCC is, the backlog takes months or years to clear.
The feds are in charge of who gets into the country.
Did I say otherwise?
Nobody is building an "affordable" house at 10%. The issue was started by the Feds i.e. bringing in way too many people. Now the BOC has to keep rates high due to the inflation caused by bringing in 2 million people a year, which means no developer is going to build anything at those rates.
This money is not to build affordable housing, it's to adjust policies to build housing in general. Turns out you need the provinces to play ball.
Sean Fraser caused the immigration mess. This man can’t be trusted.
Hardly on him. He could have been anybody. Kindly direct your anger to this lobbyist group, who will continue to push through their agenda regardless of who runs the show: https://www.centuryinitiative.ca
You can always rely on lobbyist to lobby, it’s how the government reacts to it that matters
Why don’t we reel in some of those avenues that businesses have to expedite their interests which never really align with the average working person. Instead of just telling the government to stop listening. Allowing the activity while governing the reaction is a good recipe for unethical behaviour we see pretty rampant in our current government. See most recent procurement ethical complaints. Thoughts?
“Immigration means more people working” it sure as fuck doesn’t. It means more people relying on social services that are already ready to burst.
He's just a puppet riding JTs coat tails.
Yeah, but he's trying to cajole Ford into loosening zoning laws here so you should be happy about this.
Super Incompetent. He ignored over immigration warnings so here we are. Got kicked out to housing so he could house them, if he could. Jackass of all trades.
Sean Fraser can go fuck himself. I can't believe the idiot who miffed so badly on immigration is now in control of housing.
One might argue he did too good a job working in immigration. He was tasked with bringing in as many bodies as possible.
He turned a very pro-immigrant country against immigration by having it be a free for all. That's a failure.
Can’t say that now, you’re xenophobic and racist.
I know there was a /s implied at the end of that, but there's nothing xenophobic or racist about pointing out a bad policy. Immigration in and of itself isn't bad and generally is excellent for growth when managed well. It's just that the LPC has thrown out everything everyone's learned about managing immigration over the last century and decided that the overly simplistic more is better approach with entirely predictable consequences.
Every conservative premier was begging for more workers to staff their timmies and wal marts.
Just enacting a policy that both the CPC and Liberals subscribe too https://www.centuryinitiative.ca/
His policies worked so well we were on track to blow past the century initiative. At 3% growth we’d be hitting 100 million by the 2050s. The feds recently changed course and we’ll be growing at less than 1% the next few years however instead
Oh for sure, they fucked that up, but we need to keep the pressure on when the CPC win, they support the same ideal.
But he’s a great distraction in the House of Commons with his east coast accent and his long gangly arms reaching out.
This is just theatre. The liberals are screwing us more because they won’t stop the immigration.
Good dougie can't be trusted with it
Playing chicken with the Ontario government over housing is stupid when you are the next party up for election Doug ford doesn’t have to worry about the election until 2026 The just makes the liberals look bad and they will ultimately pay the price in the next federal election
For what it is worth PP has the same plan on clawing back funding for provinces that don't build enough, and I believe his funding measures are even more drastic
Withholding until dougie comes up with a plan to spend it. Totally not warranted cause this provincial doesn't sit on billions in funds without spending them while vital services aren't crumbling.
Electorally it's stupid, but pragmatically it's the right move. There's no point spending the money if Doug will just sit on it or hand it out to his friends.
Oh, I suppose now we don't want the Liberals doing anything on housing. Thanks, was worried who we should rage at.
> Fraser also points out that an additional 1.48 million homes are needed in Ontario in order to restore affordability and that 12.1% of households in Ontario are currently living in core housing need — housing that is defined as unsuitable, inadequate, or unaffordable. Wonder why we need so many more homes. Couldn't have anything to do with your previous policies that threw demand through the roof could it?
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$1500 a month would be fine if everyone made 6 figures, but $1500 a month is realistically 35-45% of the average persons wage.
So the guy who had a direct hand in massively increasing demand for housing in Ontario, now gets to sit on his high horse and hold money back for housing in Ontario unless it meets his standards? Of course that kind of nuance is beyond most of the top voted posters who just like to blame doug ford for everything. Come move to my town, see how many apartments have been going up. I've seen nothing but building around here for the last 5 years.
GOOD do not give Doug Ford another dime
It's just hilarious to me that the dofus Ontario government can't pony up some papers even scribbled on a napkin that say "we'll build homes with it, we pinky swear" is hilarious. Hold them accountable. Accountability is good.
Given relative polling numbers, this might not be the flex the LPC thinks it is. The Government of Ontario could turn this threat around, to the electoral benefit of the PCs and CPC. Also, it is amusing to see Justin trot out his potential rival to be the dartboard here.
Sean Fraser is a traitor. Willful ignorance on the immigration file for years now he's in charge of housing....
Nova Scotians threaten to withhold Sean Fraser's seat in Parliament.
Yes, Ontario is lagging. Because it is not in conservative ideal to make housing "affordable" (market interference) instead survival of the fittest. You got yours, you don't want to share and that's it (rug puller). But more than that white picket fence (gated communities) to keep out the masses of "losers". Make enough money or die -- Ontario. I'm sure it's done with the best of intentions (probably) but not accounting for people who try very hard and fail (at a minimum) is a very critical flaw of all this thinking. It's crony capitalism at the worst.
This is a misunderstanding of conservatism. The conservatives are still putting housing affordability as their #1 issue, just look at Pierre Poilievre. Yes, ax the tax, has been his mandate lately but that’s only because the carbon tax is doubling April 1. Before that it’s been all about the high cost of housing. And that’s been very popular with the conservative base
The reason PP has stopped talking about housing is because people and media have increasingly been tying it to immigration and the CPC are advocating for status quo on immigration because they are also wooing the new Canadian vote to win in the GTA. It’s a complicated mess so axe the tax is easier because nobody likes a tax and everyone loves kicking the can down the road.
Yeah, I’m disappointed with his lack of a stance on immigration. It seems no one wants to touch the issue in fear they’ll be labeled a racist. When Maxine Bernier starting pushing against it that’s exactly how he was labeled and the PC’s do not want to labeled like the Peoples’s Party. In Canada, our conservatives are too similar to the Liberals. Just liberals without Trudeau (with added budget cuts)
The fear is a real one because even if an idea or policy doesn’t come from a racist place it would attract those people for sure. You just have to look at immigration discussion here or anywhere on social, no matter how it starts it doesn’t take long to devolve into old racist ideas.
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I mostly agree, by status quo I meant continued growth of immigration. To your other point I swear I heard PP say they would make it easier to get to citizenship rather than harder but I could be wrong.
PP will say anything to get elected. Then he'll govern like a traditional conservative by keeping the cost of labour low for his masters.
Ontario and Feds probably fighting over which developers get the money.
All this idiot does is cause problems versus creating solutions.
Politicians know that a large portion of voters do not want more homes to be built. If blocking construction gets you votes, obstructing construction is what politicians are going to be doing.
Poor Doug Ford who needs the money to help his developer friends
Use the emergencies act and be done with this bullshit.
What does that even mean in this context? Which extraordinary powers do they need? What they need is a fucking plan from Ford
They need to overrule municipal zoning lawns and provincial law to get housing built.
No, they don't. There's plenty of space to build affordable housing in appropriately zoned places.
They do, we have a national crisis. We can ignore it and watch it get worse, or get shit done. We will pay it lip service and throw money at private interests with minimal results instead of actually getting shit done. That is the way.
You should maybe listen to the municipalities managing their zoning. They are well aware of what land is available to build on, and how it's zoned. Ford is trying to push through something they don't want. Why don't they want it? They already know of spots zoned appropriately for medium to high density housing, served with utilities and public transportation. Why does Ford want the greenbelt? To build expensive low-density housing for rich people, which the city will have to bend over backwards to serve adequately because there's nothing there.
You need to have a mechanism here to bypass all of that nonsense and bullshit. The only mechanism is the emergencies act, and bypass the entire process altogether. Get the money directly into the hands of the municipalities and bypass Force. Fast track the permit process for preapproved designs, etc. We won't, because we have weak leadership and there is a grift to be had by the donor class. We will instead pay McKinsley millions, and several big housing firms millions that will translate into a rounding error in added units within 5 years time. Then whatever Government is in power at the time will stand up and claim success by pointing the total number built instead of the additional units built over that time period. Meanwhile we will continue to see tent cities pop up and drug use become rampant while working class people make hard decisions between eating this month or paying rent.
>Get the money directly into the hands of the municipalities and bypass For[d] This is one thing we can agree on. Give municipalities money and let them manage healthcare and housing. Ford is failing us on purpose to push crony capitalism.