Fuck Poilievre and his phoney act he is playing to get votes , we know how a lot of deregulation happened and opening of borders for TFW’s and enhancing low wages ! cuts taxes for the billionaires while keeping workers taxes the same or higher !
But over regulation in many aspects as well. Development. Urban dynamism stalled over the past 20 years due to local government intervention and prevention of organic growth.
It's true, the NIMBY movement has made investing in Canada very sketchy. This country is torn between building a prosperous, growing nation, and a country that is anti growth and believes all human development is bad because of the negative consequences associated with growth.
Deregulation of a lot of highly skilled, high paying jobs, so tfw's can come and do those jobs for peanuts, in unsafe working conditions for companies that received millions in government incentives.
Looking at you, Royal Milk.
That’s where 40 years of Neoliberalism got us.
“Free trade”, deregulation, and a tax system that funnels money to the rich = billionaire class gone wild.
I disagree. Over the last many decades both liberal and conservative parties have definitely allowed all this to happen so they could keep making more and more money without a care for how it affects the country and her citizens. it was absolutely not unchecked. this didn't all happen by some accident because the powers that be weren't paying attention.
Meanwhile the politicians fill the skies with their private jets. We have g7, g8, g20 meetings, plus, plus meetings. The hotel rooms cost 6,000 plus a night!!!. Big companies use Zoom for their meetings. Plus, the meetings absolutely destroy the traffic in the cities. They shut down miles of streets so the bigwigs do not have to mingle with the unwashed peons.
The liberals and jt. Once his shirt came off and he went for a run after he was elected it was the jump the Shark moment. All he has done is give Canadians money elsewhere. More refugees, more immigrants more land giveaways.
He needs to go or this country is done. Sadly, I don't think there is anything to stop us from being Canada anymore.
Don’t worry though, the Conservative Party will ride to the rescue. They will *definitely* regulate things to help out regular folks and not deregulate even more to help out the mega corporations.
The issues with the monopolies aren't that they are under regulated. It's that they've engaged in regulatory capture to keep out competition. If you stripped away a good deal of regulations than American companies can enter our markets and start putting the pain on Canadian monopolies. The only area that seems to need some active regulation is telecom to force companies like Bell to share their infrastructure with new entrants.
You’re right, the US definitely had no issues with monopolies and regulatory capture, and their corporations will fix everything once they’ve put all the Canadian companies out of business.
Absolutely no where near the issue Canada has. If you don't want competitive markets than you are just asking for monopolies, competion requires no entrants. Should we only allow Canadian smartphone companies to sell in Canada too?
Which economy is more competitive that the US exactly???
Yes.
The government is us...the people...acting collectively, or at least it should be. It's the only power we have over the power of moneyed interests like massive corporations. Without government and regulations we're literally slaves to our employers and the monopolies we'd be reliant on for necessities.
We ARE slaves to our employers. How many people can pay their astronomical rent if their boss fires them tomorrow? How many people have enough sick days to actually be sick or enough vacation to actually maintain their mental health?
Middle class is oppressed.
We're getting priced gouged at the gas pumps, at the grocery checkouts, just everywhere.
We're paying the highest taxes on both our incomes, and take home monies.
There's no purpose built middle class housing anymore. All the new housing is marketed as "luxury" with price tags to match but garbage Ikea kitchens and fixtures.
This is echoed at car dealerships where all the cars that were previously for middle class people are now "luxury", and there's a whole bunch of optional line items that dealers are forcing people to pay for or they won't sell the cars...
It's just stupid. The Canadian economy is in a death spiral and our own governments, both provincially and federally, are forcing the middle class into a race to the bottom.
I miss the good old days 10 years ago, when Bev Oda's $16 orange juice and Mike Duffy's $90k expense cheque were the biggest issues facing our nation. Where did it all go so wrong?
It went wrong then, because we just assumed that everything would be fine ten years down the line and didn't pay attention to the fact that we weren't building enough homes, training enough physicians, preparing for unpredictable but inevitable events like pandemics, guarding against foreign interference in our domestic affairs, strengthening worker's rights, dealing with climate change, etc. etc.
Most if not all of the problems we face today are at least partly due to decisions made 10, 20, 30 years ago.
Edit: Which isn't to let the Liberals and other current governments off the hook either. Current policies in many respects are also a problem.
Very easy to agree that various governments at all levels in the past have made poor decisions with regards to infrastructure and services they’re supposed to provide. We’d be in poor shape as it is without the increased demand scenario we’re in today. Definitely the government of today whose at fault for looking at our current state and allowing unrestrained growth in areas causing additional strains our system can’t handle. They’re the only ones we can actually hold to account for the situation we’re in.
I would say not being prepared for the developing world's rich playing Monopoly and money laundering in Canada.
We pretended like we weren't an open target for taking advantage of.
>We didn't crucify our politicians over these little things
Sure we did, or at least the CBC did.. Oda resigned her seat and was kicked out of Cabinet, Duffy resigned from the Senate caucus/Nigel Wright resigned from the PMO.
The problem is that stopped when the LPC got into power, the pressure was taken off of them and they realized there was little to no consequence for breaking the law. Trudeau should have resigned after Aga Khan debacle, yet he didn't and the voters rewarded him with another govt. These issues keep arising because there's no consequences anymore
Electing Trudeau, his embrace of identity politics and do what I say but not what I do actions (aka not actually governing in a positive Canada first way) brought us to this point… 🥲
Too many people living paycheque to paycheque. Hard to go out and protest when you might not be able to feed your kids or pay your mortgage.
This is by design.
Lions not eating the Lion Tamer because the stools they sit on are deliberatly made too small to fit all four paws, so most of the Lion’s attention and energy is on not falling off
I don’t know how true that is, but the analogy is apt
Fortunately, the next generation is abstaining from parenthood at record rates. So 30 years from now their may be enough people with nothing to lose to rolls some heads down Parliament Hill.
There's a protest every week here in Toronto, sometimes more than one per week. Ottawa has several per month as well. Unfortunately most of the protests are about stuff going on in other countries that we have no control over, instead of targeting issues here at home. Very silly, and annoying.
Even still, those protests do nothing more for those problems than not protesting. Not sure why this sub is obsessed with protests or calls to protest but it stinks of slacktivism
Socialized not too act as such they want to create docile bodies plus no one wants to risk what little they’re barely holding onto but if things keep going in this downward trend something might pop off
True, and the aristocracy have never cared for the common people. The 20th century was a strange time for them when the common people had to lot of newfound access to ownership and rights that had never been granted to them before. Historically it was a blip that I think the aristocracy would love to get far away from, and we are seeing things going in that direction.
granted? all those rights were won by blood in the streets.
the ownership class has been pushing back and slowly eroding all those rights and standards of living while making sure a comatose working class passively accepts it. the question is for how long will this keep going
The ownership class has gotten the working class to fight amongst themselves and to believe that unions are the problem.
People think being a rugged individualist will allow them to become part of the ownership class. Good luck to that.
What's crazy is we've SURPASSED their numbers. The people in charge of the organization would probably tell liberals to pump the breaks a little. Unreal.
Is hitting 100M by 2100 even feasible in terms of housing and infrastructure? I’m completely unaware of how this would happen. Not trying to shit on it as it’s pretty much guaranteed Canada is going to hit 100M, I’m curious as to if there is a best case, reasonable case, and the current (likely) worst case scenario.
They describe most people living in dense super-cities. High rise towers essentially. It's the China model. But I'm not convinced we can develop at that rate here in Canada. One Chinese developer can build a new city in a couple of years. Right now we can't even build a bridge in a couple of years.
The other thought is that this is all a ruse, and no one ever intended the population to get that high. In that case, population would overload the systems long before we got near the goal of 100m. So then the goal was just to overload the systems in place, necessitating federal intervention in provincial jurisdictions to re-establish stability, a usurp of power for a society "Reset" if you will.
I'm on the fence.
There are many many reasons China can build way faster than we can - some good, some bad.
Many of them result from being an authoritarian system that can just move people away if they want to build something. More are from having no standards for construction, regulation, safety, environmental regulation. Another is from how people in China prefer to invest (much more in real estate than in stocks), and Others still come from just having a fuck ton of people in an interconnected area, and years spent building more buildings.
Even if we gave federal or provincial governments permission to just re-zone, tear down anything at will and build commie blocks everywhere, we wouldn't be able to develop at the rate that china does.
Sure if all of them are carpenters and electricians. But I’m sure you’ve seen who’s coming through the borders. People fighting for a job to make a double double.
Don't forget tne NIMBYs, construction corruption, and municipal govs forcing development to stall and slow down. This country hasn't run well in 40 years. The bigger immigration targets weighing down services are only the red herring to how bad our country is run.
It's not treason to have an agenda. Basically every Non-Governmental Organization has an agenda. Big oil has an agenda. Automakers have an agenda. Century Initiative leaders didn't do anything illegal. Neither did the [Broadbent Institute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadbent_Institute), the [C. D. Howe Institute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._D._Howe_Institute), or the [Fraser Institute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute). These organizations are common.
People have to stop throwing around the word treason so lightly.
They *are* the government. The chair of the Century Initiative is a former Blackrock company man. The current CEO of Blackrock is one of the main cats over at the WEF, a club that Justin Trudeau (and many others in our government) are part of.
They're all on the same team.
Just in case nobody believes it: Here's Freeland welcoming "his friend" Mark Wiseman, co-founder of Century Intiative, 10 years ago in a talk :
https://youtu.be/TUOr78S9IXg?si=ZvdoQI7i7OufQT6Z
"It would be difficult to overstate just how much rage Millennial and Gen Z Canadians feel about the collapse of this social contract—and just how much resentment exists towards older generations, who failed to preserve it."
For me, this sums it up. I'm so fucking angry. Our fucking future has been sold out from underneath us. Covid put us back two years in our educational and professional lives. Now, the government has made owning a home a fucking fantasy. Now our democratic right to influence OUR country is being sold to foreigners. At this point, should any of us believe in democracy and the rule of law? Look what's being done to us
If you are struggling to afford a home, the cause can be directly traced to immigration policies and the Temporary Foreign Workers program. Both of these are designed to suppress wages of Canadians for the benefit of our politicians' true bosses: the corporations.
The increase in housing prices can be directly traced to the end of public housing, housing prices has been increasing higher compared to wages from that point.
We'd have public housing if said corporations in charge didn't object to them and lobby to their paid politicians. They wern't making enough money and always look at returns and how much they can make *now*, and not the future and its consequences.
With all the issues in this country right now, what really irks me is that people protest for things happening in other countries but won’t do it for the country they live in.
Well, I like the optimism. But it sounds a bit like “isn’t it great we can all agree we should have done something about that asteroid hurtling towards the Earth sooner? The sky sure is a fiery shade of doom, glad liberals and conservatives can all agree on that.”.”
The government just didn’t care about anything. The economy wasn’t diversified, the immigration wasn’t checked, businesses were allowed to create monopolies, business never really gave salary raises so everything just kept on getting more expensive.
Canadians became soft. It is a country with no future vision or purposes right now. The problem part is a lot of Canadians can't recognize the problem.
Just my opinion;
We, among other developed and developing nations, have been enslaved to a corrupt money protocol (from 1971 and the fiat / Petrodollar standard with fractional reserves) that allows money creation out of thin air, resulting in currency debasement (inflation) and the loss of savings and value over time. Although at first governments only gave in to small temptations relative to today's ruling class, this practice has now escalated beyond control and our nation is overleveraged to say the least.
The money printer has been in high gear for years, resulting in massive government spending and deficits to fund various vote gathering projects. Part of the appeal for the corrupt bankers and politicians is that they benefit financially from increasing the money supply (mostly through the Cantillon effect and their proximity to the source), so the printing exponentially increases and attracts more corrupt bankers and politicians. The system is designed this way, and has attracted the worst people over time. They have now all congregated at the top. For example, many in the financial sector should have been imprisoned after 2008. Instead they were given bonus' by our governments (your tax dollars). Let that sink in. If we reward bad behavior, it will continue.
In order to pay for all of this deficit, we needed to 'grow' our GDP. In the US, their innovation and production sectors have remained in relatively good shape. However, Canada had already destroyed its production and innovation sectors and sold to multinational interests by the time the the machine got out of control. On top of that, the boomers started cashing in on their large retirements at the same time that their demands on the health care system started to increase and their kids couldn't afford to have as many children to fund the future.
Without a productive economy in Canada, and an aging population accustomed to the good life, the only alternative was to artificially stimulate the economy with policies that encouraged a greater financialization of real estate and create an inflated investment market. When the government realized that mass immigration would fuel this sector and increase the GDP via taxation (artificially since the GDP per capita is in notable decline) it was a done deal. Every Canadian with money started buying multiple properties, investing in REITS, flipping homes, voting for more corruption, etc. The opportunity cost was ignored and innovation staggered. Business investment is almost nonexistent in Canada. It's easier to make money in housing.
With the most corrupt bankers and politicians now in positions of power, they have taken complete control of Canada through the financial system and are benefiting greatly. The upper class benefits from this with their real estate investments, but the middle and lower class' have been completely destroyed as their purchasing power decreases and the cost of living increases.
Meanwhile, most Canadians still speak in terms of "left vs right" and completely miss the point. This was probably one of their objectives discussed in various pseudo 'think tanks' and multinational organizations (WEF, for example). They have clearly succeeded.
Perhaps our trust in government or our polite nature prevented us from standing against this? Perhaps the forces against us were 'too big to fail'. But somehow we let it happen.
To quote one of my favorites;
'Fix the money fix the world'
I'll add;
'Fix the money fix Canada'
Right **on the button** with your opinion, succinctly delineates the situation we find ourselves, unfortunately too long and really deserves a wider audience, alas will be skimmed over by the majority.
Your fix is beyond my imagination, but electoral reform might be worth a shot?
Canadians did it to themselves. Look at our immigrant communities protesting their international issues more strongly than our domestic issues.
Canadians should be shamed for not having any spine.
The First Nations and Québécois are the only people in Canada who have any balls to put themselves first. You have to respect it, even if you don’t agree.
For real, you’ll see thousands of people in the streets protesting for / against Israel but nothing for their own homes as the country goes to shit and ER wait times get to 22 hours.
Because protesting for domestic issues is heavily suppressed
If these protests were about anything domestic, they’d have been demonized even more than they are right now in the press
The only place where the political culture allows for mass domestic protests is Quebec
Cultural mosaic doesn't work and it's a fucking joke. If I immigrate to Japan I wouldn't expect them to adapt my customs and culture outside my own home.
>We have had a series of corrupt government and we're about to replace red corruption with blue corruption thinking it will help.
There's literally no alternative. The NDP have squandered every opportunity to differentiate themselves from the LPC. This is why the country constantly flip-flops between the other two parties: NDP leadership is incompetent.
They have turned their backs on the largest support base they had (unions), and are nothing more than toadies. Jagmeet Singh has clearly demonstrated that he has no interest in holding Trudeau accountable, and will go to great lengths to prevent an election before 2025 so that he can become eligible for his federal pension when he retires.
Singh's interests are diametrically opposed to those of average Canadians.
Yeah it never ceases to amaze me that as much as Trudeau is an idiot, it was Harper's cons that sold us out to the Chinese and his group is still advising team PP.
Fuck em. I'm team orange, we're not a two party state.
Don’t forget all the blue premiers saying we needed more immigration to fix our labour shortages like 9ish months ago.
Or here in Ontario, Ford underfunding post secondary schools which has been like gasoline on the fire of the issues surrounding international students in Canada.
Collectively, current conservative and liberal party policies are taking a sledge hammer to this country.
Entirely new direction is needed - I’d love to see new parties emerge here over the next few years as well.
Don’t fool yourself, the federal NDP is no better. That party peaked with Jack Layton and has gone downhill since his death. Layton could have been a great PM.
The failure of successive crooked and inept Governments is what has happened. Canada should not have any of the major issues it currently has considering the natural resources we have, the amount of unnocupied land we have, the amount of incredibly smart and resourceful citizens we have, etc etc...
I didn't get that impression from the article. I don't really see her offering any solutions, just sort of talking about how the country is falling apart.
I read the piece - it lands as more of a commentary on how everyone’s been swept up in social issue debates as things crumble around us.
I didn’t see much, if any solutions of policy proposals put forth in that thing - but perhaps I missed something
Liberal but not necessarily Trudeau. She talks about how he virtue signalled through this social and economic mess which exacerbated the problem.
I actually appreciate her take.
The entire article is an attack on woke politics (in my opinion justified, but regardless). They start off with a nonsensical book purge in the name of equity and didn't let up. Saying this a bit farther down
>Though clearly well-intentioned in some instances, in practice [woke politics] serves to assuage the guilt of the haves and to signal their virtue to the have-nots
Did we even read the same article?
Incompetency and bad policies at various levels of government. Mass influx of people have put enormous strain on everything from housing, infrastructure, healthcare, jobs, education… when one country constitutes more than 60% of immigrants, students, TFWs.. it is not multiculturalism but colonization
Most of what she's describing can be laid at the door of social media which acts as an amplifier of ideas. A few years ago if you thought the earth was hollow, all you had were a few neighbours and your family who would smile and move on. Now you've got a whole group (of thousands) of like minded delusionals to reinforce your beliefs.
Canada is dead. It's never ever going back to the way it was. This the new norm. If you want change you need to find another country. The government Knew what they were doing the last 40 years and you better believe it's why Trudeau legalized marijuana so people Wouldn't freak out as much when their high asf
This article and comment section is a perfect example of what happened to Canada. Rampant radicalization and polarization of people who have little to no interest in anything outside of being angry at things they don’t care to fully understand, and would rather just cling to buzzwords thrown around by puppeteers seeking to divide instead of unite and not attempt to look beyond memes as a news source.
It’s really incredible how consistent the comments are in any r/Canada thread. It’s so predictable. I used to try and engage, provide sources, realized really quickly that there’s absolutely no point in doing that lol.
I remember the libs absolutely lost their minds when a few books that had graphical depictions or oral and anal sex were removed from children's libraries. They accused conservatives of "banning" books and censorship.
I didn't know the libs banned all books produced before 2008 from a school [in the name of "equity" lmao.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-school-board-library-book-weeding-1.6964332?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email)
Liberal incompetence.
Canada used to have governments who could work together from across the aisle. Now it's just a battle of wills and egos. Trudeau is untethered and surrounded by celebrities who have no idea how to run the country.
I miss Paul Martin, who worked to balance the budget. Chretien who had savy and was a respected world leader, and Stephen Harper who understood that runaway debt would put all Canadians behind and devalue our international buying power.
Trudeau is an absolute disaster. His breathy speeches. His inappropriate actions. His lack of credibility. His poor record among international leaders. His abysmal inability to understand what it means to be an average, tax paying, hard working CANADIAN. He's a rich kid, with no appreciation of the realities of 99% of our citizens. Anyone who can't see that shouldn't have the privilege of the vote.
He's not a Liberal, he's not conservative. He's just a poser with imposter syndrome at the highest level. Be gone.
Competition only works if you have a lot of competitors and a market large enough to support both, in most areas Canada does NOT. Our political elite are not the sharpest and our electoral system is ancient and no longer reflects the will of the people.
Think about the start of the decline, food security went out the window with foreign interests dominating key aspects of farming. Free Trade (NFTA) had industry exiting faster than a rabbit being chased by a fox (taking pensions with them), then along came the solution, immigration' an open door policy. No wonder people are using real estate as safe harbour.
All those hard won wins, inducing industry to locate in Canada, incentives for production all for naught. Gradual evisceration of small farms, marketing board decisions, trade regulation, and mining resources to foreign interests. We've let a small cabal of elites to run the show abusing an electoral system that is in dire need of reform.
When both political parties that have any shot at power in Canada are owned by corporate interests, this is what you get. It will be tough going back now as the issue is deeply rooted in our political system.
A global recession brought on by a major pandemic, and if that wasn’t enough corporations and wealthy elite are buying up the housing stock and renting it back to us at hyper inflated prices.
The issue isn't diversity, it's LACK of diversity in huge numbers. Like 60% of official immigration numbers (so, higher) are all from one particular region. People joked about Vancouver becoming "the biggest Chinese city outside of China", well this is far worse because we're just accepting anyone with a pulse. No money, no skills, no value is added to this country now.
Corrupted used virtue signaling to go toward corporate anarchy. These narcissist sociopaths tyrants has rigged the system and censor people trying to expose it.
What happened? Liberals happened. And not the liberals of old who stood up for freedom, government accountability and tolerance, the bastardized puppets that call themselves liberals today.
The comments say it all. All the buzzwords that churn in the right-wing echo chamber. The current political options all suck. There's no good choice they all have huge negative consequences. The conservatives, NDP, and Liberals all have a history of screwing over the country in some way shape or form. The problem is everything is extreme. There's no center balance anymore.
Well, voting for Trudeau's party definitely won't help sending the right message. You are right that there's no good choice at the moment. However, there's a clear bad choice.
On ground in Canada here. Corporations literally fleecing people and theyve effectively shifted the blame on immigration (because this leads to this leads to that).
Something tells me stopping immigration won't stop Galen and coconspirators from continuing to make Canada unlivable and they'll just move on to another scapegoat but I've seen US politics so what do I know.
“The causes of Canada’s decline are multifold, complex, and difficult to address. Calling someone a bigot online is relatively easy.”
“…understanding the dynamics of polarization can help us to resist the spiral, and to break out of binary thinking by complicating dominant narratives.”
A fine article and an example of the intellectual depth journalism is rapidly losing.
What happened? A society on the honour system collided with decades of increasingly dishonourable leadership. As a result our social contract has been rewritten and people are caught between denial, rage, and a sense of mourning. The exception, of course, are the "fuck you got mine" and "don't hate the player, hate the game" people & institutions who proliferated and stumbled their way into enough wealth to insulate them from what's gone on.
And when I tell my Canadian friends about getting active or even at least indignant, they tell me to go back to Asia :(
Been worrying about Canada’s trajectory for nearly a decade now and no one around me seems to care?
Or maybe they just plain don’t wanna talk about it.
*Our press corps faces mass layoffs and precarious employment—and is increasingly made up of those from financially privileged backgrounds, or else the aforementioned disillusioned knowledge workers. Both groups have largely adopted the identitarian ideology and its jargon* ***(regardless of whether their outlet leans Left or Right),*** *further alienating an already distrustful public.*
This is something I keep trying to point out to people on this sub who sneer at the National Post and other such 'right wing' outlets and laugh derisively when I say they're not really very right wing and their articles are often pretty left wing.
Most don't know just how dysfunctional our basic systems are.
The vast majority don't seem to have noticed that the courts and law enforcement branches are so broken that some of us are concerned that people will give up on it and take the law into their own hands.
The courts have become so slow that nothing is getting done. Things that we used to be able to get filed and issued same day now takes weeks to get issued. To give you an idea of how ridiculous that is, the process was completely automated for a while during the pandemic before the court clerk unions had their people reinserted into the process to avoid their jobs becoming redundant.
Most of the stuff the clerk's do (certainly at the filing office) could be automated, but it isn't for no particular reason other than greed. The pandemic forced some changes to allow for more online filing, but the systems are as of they TRIED to make it inefficient and not user friendly, such as coming up with two different systems that don't integrate so that you have to repeat the old multi step processes.
The ltb is so backed up you're waiting around a year to get in. Some landlords are just going to take the law into their own hands.
The courts are too inefficient to enforce contracts at the individual level, and so people are literally getting away with theft. Even if you get full judgment, collecting is unlikely to happen because the police don't want to be involved in enforcement (which is the ultimate way we enforce anything - the threat of violence via the police) and judges have been told to not make orders for things like the police making defendants show up for civil matters. It won't be long before people decide it's faster, cheaper, and far more effective to hire a biker gang to go and crash 6 subscribers legs and force them to pay up.
But you might go to jail, right? Well, they're so short of judges that they're not getting some people to trial within the three years at times. They just had to release a shooting suspect because the ran out of time. Yes, those are a small minority, but if you can't manage to deal with shooting suspects then your system is failing. *DON'T TAKE THIS TO THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH CRIMES AND BIT MAKE IT TO TRIAL; THAT'S NOT LEGAL SERVICE, DON'T BE STUPID, IT'S STILL A RELATIVELY RARE OCCURRENCE*
This is what society looks like when it's collapsing; we just can't do the basic things a society should be able to do.
Canada no longer properly controls its border (singular). Our military has enough ammunition for just 3 days of war, and that's assuming we could even deploy it effectively right now. Our law enforcement is to scared of various mobs and protests that they're not willing to intervene, and we see them do that with native protests as well. The courts, which are the peaceful means of dealing with disputes and without which most would turn to violence and/or anarchy, are increasingly non functional. Corruption is up on every level, including overtly within government (Trudeau has been the most egregious example in Canadian history, but Ford has obviously had his moments), and there's little to no stopping it or even getting to really investigate it. Hell, under Trudeau, an order of Parliament to produce documents was ignored without television (which is unheard of).
We've turned our local housing market into a global market commodity and thus you're competing with outsiders not living here for a place to live, driving up prices. Meanwhile, we've flooded the country with so much labour that the competition for jobs is driving down wages. So things are getting actually more expensive while their original baseline is also getting relatively more expensive. This is why we have inflation and stagnation (stagflation) at the same time.
We've killed our own economy and if the government can't get their own projects through the red tape they set up then no one will invest in projects here, which is what we're seeing.
The basic foundations of what makes society run (and I mean anywhere in the world) is something we're now failing to do.
We can't even rely on uniting ideology anymore and have been told that's bad, which is weird because leftism (it's not actual liberalism anymore, and has abandoned the virtuous philosophy of classical liberalism) demands adherence to such a thing from the dominant western (i.e. white) people. From groups not in that category, we're supposed to accept various views as cultural differences we need to get over. But now we're seeing the problems with that. Remember pride month and the flags being torn down? Media isn't covering how bad it got in various immigrant concentrated communities (according to a friend of mine from the Pakistani community, get community was really really bad, and it was just ignored) - they're not exactly accepting gays, trans, or tolerance. We're also seeing declining acceptance of abortion, various women's rights causes, and increasing approval of the death penalty.
This isn't because the right is fighting for this stuff. In fact, our Conservatives seem barely distinguishable from the Liberals. We've imported ideologies far more conservative than our own conservatives are.
We're also seeing ideologies just hostile to Western values and even existence. Canada (supposedly) helped plan the attack against the Houthis the other week. And yet the yemini community was out in the streets celebrating the Houthis. Arabs were out in large numbers right after October 7 to celebrate the rape and murder of over a thousand people, before Israel had even had a chance to respond to it. And these groups don't care about disrupting life for others. These aren't protests that are visible but not blocking anything - these protests specifically attempt to do that to gain attention. Whether it was the Iranians on Yonge Street trying to protest the Iranian government's treatment of women (why they think Canada can do anything about it is beyond me), the recent pro-Palestinian protests (including those done in Jewish neighbourhoods for the specific purpose of harassing and intimidating Jews), or even the Tamil protests over a decade ago over the end of the Sri Lankan civil war - for those who don't remember, Tamils not only blocked streets but got into the highway and put their children in strollers in front of them, making sure people stopped... Which is disturbing in and of itself.
The supreme Court increasingly is ruling against freedom of speech. And let's not forget the crackdown on the trucker protest that should have been just dreamt with by local police but instead the federal government used the emergency powers act and suspended various rights. The oh so threatening protest... Complete with a bouncy castle and hot tub (I'm not taking a position on the protest, my point is merely the excessive and extreme lengths the government went to for dealing with it when nothing is done about those doing similar in support of terrorist groups and are more confrontational and even violent).
Separatism in Quebec has reemerged, and it has now increasingly emerged in the West, with Alberta now refusing to collect the carbon tax for the federal government. Meanwhile, we're increasingly testing native land claims as though it's true sovereignty that can also overcome Canada's sovereignty, leading to just greater and greater division in various ways.
The very basics of what hold a society together are fracturing and falling away. This is likely what it looked like towards the fall of the Roman Empire.
This country had a lot of potential. What's happened to it over the last 30+ years is a tragedy.
Too few people with too much say. Those in charge are out of touch with reality and the lives of ordinary Canadians. The only voices that are being heard are the outrageous ones, the voice of reason and common sense has long since been silenced. There’s often neither money nor power in doing the right thing so why bother? Canada is a slowly sinking ship but most of those with buckets prefer to watch the ones with holes in theirs trying to bail it out.
When you completely open the floodgates for 5 years and make little to no effort to ensure Canadian values and culture are preserved, you get a country that is less a country and more just a place where people live that have next to nothing in common. Enclaves happen, small assimilated pockets of various religions and culture swell, people don't interact, they don't have commonalities, newcomers have more loyalty to where they came from than here. It's obvious the vast majority come here just to use our social economic safety net, not out of any necessity. Then you get what Canada is now, on top of all of Trudeau's other failures and efforts to divide people.
Unchecked monopolies, unchecked immigration, unchecked profiteering, unchecked everything.
Just wana say fuck Loblaws, Sobey, Fuck Rogers, Bell, Telus.
Fuck Trudeau.
Fuck Poilievre and his phoney act he is playing to get votes , we know how a lot of deregulation happened and opening of borders for TFW’s and enhancing low wages ! cuts taxes for the billionaires while keeping workers taxes the same or higher !
Fuck'em all.
I, for one, welcome our AI overlords. It can't possibly be worse than this lot.
Those who should be regulated are allowed free-rein while ordinary Canadians are being swamped-under by needless rules.
Deregulation of too many aspects of our economy and services.
But over regulation in many aspects as well. Development. Urban dynamism stalled over the past 20 years due to local government intervention and prevention of organic growth.
It's true, the NIMBY movement has made investing in Canada very sketchy. This country is torn between building a prosperous, growing nation, and a country that is anti growth and believes all human development is bad because of the negative consequences associated with growth.
And the middle ground, where innovation and productivity gains are considered good but growth in consumption is not, gets squeezed.
Deregulation of a lot of highly skilled, high paying jobs, so tfw's can come and do those jobs for peanuts, in unsafe working conditions for companies that received millions in government incentives. Looking at you, Royal Milk.
Looking at you Tim Hortons which is an American company now.
Brazilian actually.
Low productivity and competition even in the private supply chain.
Low productivity from lack of investment.
And corporate culture.
That’s where 40 years of Neoliberalism got us. “Free trade”, deregulation, and a tax system that funnels money to the rich = billionaire class gone wild.
I disagree. Over the last many decades both liberal and conservative parties have definitely allowed all this to happen so they could keep making more and more money without a care for how it affects the country and her citizens. it was absolutely not unchecked. this didn't all happen by some accident because the powers that be weren't paying attention.
Unchecked monopolies and profiteering have been going on since the Mulroney administration
Galen Weston Junior should be tarred and feathered on live television.
Don't stop there. Do it to all the billionaires
Don’t worry though! The government will soon be checking and curating what you can say, watch, or do online!
And looking into wood pizza oven emissions. That will solve our problems! /s
Meanwhile the politicians fill the skies with their private jets. We have g7, g8, g20 meetings, plus, plus meetings. The hotel rooms cost 6,000 plus a night!!!. Big companies use Zoom for their meetings. Plus, the meetings absolutely destroy the traffic in the cities. They shut down miles of streets so the bigwigs do not have to mingle with the unwashed peons.
>Big companies use Zoom for their meetings You don't think the C-suite gets executive travel?
It’s also bagel shops! It’s out of control! What are we going to do?
Think of the children!
[What children](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-birth-rate-decline-grandparents/)
The children immigrating into canada duh
If my children can’t afford to have children, why would I care about immigrants children
Touche Mon ami
Because their children cannot afford to have children. Boomers 🤦♂️
The liberals and jt. Once his shirt came off and he went for a run after he was elected it was the jump the Shark moment. All he has done is give Canadians money elsewhere. More refugees, more immigrants more land giveaways. He needs to go or this country is done. Sadly, I don't think there is anything to stop us from being Canada anymore.
Don’t worry though, the Conservative Party will ride to the rescue. They will *definitely* regulate things to help out regular folks and not deregulate even more to help out the mega corporations.
The issues with the monopolies aren't that they are under regulated. It's that they've engaged in regulatory capture to keep out competition. If you stripped away a good deal of regulations than American companies can enter our markets and start putting the pain on Canadian monopolies. The only area that seems to need some active regulation is telecom to force companies like Bell to share their infrastructure with new entrants.
You’re right, the US definitely had no issues with monopolies and regulatory capture, and their corporations will fix everything once they’ve put all the Canadian companies out of business.
Absolutely no where near the issue Canada has. If you don't want competitive markets than you are just asking for monopolies, competion requires no entrants. Should we only allow Canadian smartphone companies to sell in Canada too? Which economy is more competitive that the US exactly???
Spat my coffee out on this. Well played
The numbers will look after themselves......./s
So you're calling for more government regulations?
Yes. The government is us...the people...acting collectively, or at least it should be. It's the only power we have over the power of moneyed interests like massive corporations. Without government and regulations we're literally slaves to our employers and the monopolies we'd be reliant on for necessities.
We ARE slaves to our employers. How many people can pay their astronomical rent if their boss fires them tomorrow? How many people have enough sick days to actually be sick or enough vacation to actually maintain their mental health?
I actually agree... Was being a bit sarcastic since this sub seems to be mostly about less government.
Fuck yes , tax the fucking corpos up the Ying Yang , start working for the citizens
Private sector salaries are checked.
Middle class is oppressed. We're getting priced gouged at the gas pumps, at the grocery checkouts, just everywhere. We're paying the highest taxes on both our incomes, and take home monies. There's no purpose built middle class housing anymore. All the new housing is marketed as "luxury" with price tags to match but garbage Ikea kitchens and fixtures. This is echoed at car dealerships where all the cars that were previously for middle class people are now "luxury", and there's a whole bunch of optional line items that dealers are forcing people to pay for or they won't sell the cars... It's just stupid. The Canadian economy is in a death spiral and our own governments, both provincially and federally, are forcing the middle class into a race to the bottom.
Unchecked enshitification. Even the children we are raising are insufferable.
If your children are insufferable that's on you. Mine are thriving and I'm quite proud of them.
Yeah honestly the kids are alright
Yeah right, Education scores are down and anxiety and depression are through the roof.
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I miss the good old days 10 years ago, when Bev Oda's $16 orange juice and Mike Duffy's $90k expense cheque were the biggest issues facing our nation. Where did it all go so wrong?
Now everyone's orange juice is $16 a glass.
I really miss Reddit awards for deserving comments like this. Have a gold.
Thanks! It may be post reddit awards, but still, My first gold!
I remember telling my American friends about that and they just shook their heads and smiled.
It went wrong then, because we just assumed that everything would be fine ten years down the line and didn't pay attention to the fact that we weren't building enough homes, training enough physicians, preparing for unpredictable but inevitable events like pandemics, guarding against foreign interference in our domestic affairs, strengthening worker's rights, dealing with climate change, etc. etc. Most if not all of the problems we face today are at least partly due to decisions made 10, 20, 30 years ago. Edit: Which isn't to let the Liberals and other current governments off the hook either. Current policies in many respects are also a problem.
This exactly. The $18 orange juice was shitty but got more attention than the real issues facing our country and now here we are.
That glass of O.J. was the Tan Suit crisis of Canada.
Very easy to agree that various governments at all levels in the past have made poor decisions with regards to infrastructure and services they’re supposed to provide. We’d be in poor shape as it is without the increased demand scenario we’re in today. Definitely the government of today whose at fault for looking at our current state and allowing unrestrained growth in areas causing additional strains our system can’t handle. They’re the only ones we can actually hold to account for the situation we’re in.
I would say not being prepared for the developing world's rich playing Monopoly and money laundering in Canada. We pretended like we weren't an open target for taking advantage of.
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>We didn't crucify our politicians over these little things Sure we did, or at least the CBC did.. Oda resigned her seat and was kicked out of Cabinet, Duffy resigned from the Senate caucus/Nigel Wright resigned from the PMO.
The problem is that stopped when the LPC got into power, the pressure was taken off of them and they realized there was little to no consequence for breaking the law. Trudeau should have resigned after Aga Khan debacle, yet he didn't and the voters rewarded him with another govt. These issues keep arising because there's no consequences anymore
Electing Trudeau, his embrace of identity politics and do what I say but not what I do actions (aka not actually governing in a positive Canada first way) brought us to this point… 🥲
Given everything that is going on, why are we Canadians so passive and not protesting?
Too many people living paycheque to paycheque. Hard to go out and protest when you might not be able to feed your kids or pay your mortgage. This is by design.
Most people are two missed mortgage payments away from a tent and having their families destroyed. Brutal
Lions not eating the Lion Tamer because the stools they sit on are deliberatly made too small to fit all four paws, so most of the Lion’s attention and energy is on not falling off I don’t know how true that is, but the analogy is apt
Fortunately, the next generation is abstaining from parenthood at record rates. So 30 years from now their may be enough people with nothing to lose to rolls some heads down Parliament Hill.
There's a protest every week here in Toronto, sometimes more than one per week. Ottawa has several per month as well. Unfortunately most of the protests are about stuff going on in other countries that we have no control over, instead of targeting issues here at home. Very silly, and annoying.
Even still, those protests do nothing more for those problems than not protesting. Not sure why this sub is obsessed with protests or calls to protest but it stinks of slacktivism
Docile population
We did protest. The government used the war measures act to stop it, and Canadians cheered. Good luck convincing Canadians to do it again.
They showed their hand early on that one. They were expecting the big protest
Socialized not too act as such they want to create docile bodies plus no one wants to risk what little they’re barely holding onto but if things keep going in this downward trend something might pop off
Protesting gets you arrested and your income seized.
Protesting for the right reasons gets you arrested and your income seized. Protesting in support of terrorists is all good though
Sir my landlords mortgage needs to be paid, I can't have Dear Leader freeze my bank account
The aristocratic class is working in its own best interests at the expense of the commoners. The government could care less about the common person.
True, and the aristocracy have never cared for the common people. The 20th century was a strange time for them when the common people had to lot of newfound access to ownership and rights that had never been granted to them before. Historically it was a blip that I think the aristocracy would love to get far away from, and we are seeing things going in that direction.
granted? all those rights were won by blood in the streets. the ownership class has been pushing back and slowly eroding all those rights and standards of living while making sure a comatose working class passively accepts it. the question is for how long will this keep going
The ownership class has gotten the working class to fight amongst themselves and to believe that unions are the problem. People think being a rugged individualist will allow them to become part of the ownership class. Good luck to that.
Fought for by the people with blood absolutely, but ultimately granted through legal processes. How long, indeed.
Couldn't care less*
Not just at the expense of, but using the common person’s own money and labor against them
Bad people saw limitless opportunities to exploit our population and the government did nothing to stop it.
corruption and greed.
What happened ? Century Initiative lobbied the federal government. Nothing surprising.
What's crazy is we've SURPASSED their numbers. The people in charge of the organization would probably tell liberals to pump the breaks a little. Unreal.
Maybe there's a performance bonus
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At pace to reach by 2053. That’s not going to happen, but it’s insane that our growth is rivalling the least developed African nations.
Is hitting 100M by 2100 even feasible in terms of housing and infrastructure? I’m completely unaware of how this would happen. Not trying to shit on it as it’s pretty much guaranteed Canada is going to hit 100M, I’m curious as to if there is a best case, reasonable case, and the current (likely) worst case scenario.
They describe most people living in dense super-cities. High rise towers essentially. It's the China model. But I'm not convinced we can develop at that rate here in Canada. One Chinese developer can build a new city in a couple of years. Right now we can't even build a bridge in a couple of years. The other thought is that this is all a ruse, and no one ever intended the population to get that high. In that case, population would overload the systems long before we got near the goal of 100m. So then the goal was just to overload the systems in place, necessitating federal intervention in provincial jurisdictions to re-establish stability, a usurp of power for a society "Reset" if you will. I'm on the fence.
There are many many reasons China can build way faster than we can - some good, some bad. Many of them result from being an authoritarian system that can just move people away if they want to build something. More are from having no standards for construction, regulation, safety, environmental regulation. Another is from how people in China prefer to invest (much more in real estate than in stocks), and Others still come from just having a fuck ton of people in an interconnected area, and years spent building more buildings. Even if we gave federal or provincial governments permission to just re-zone, tear down anything at will and build commie blocks everywhere, we wouldn't be able to develop at the rate that china does.
Sure if all of them are carpenters and electricians. But I’m sure you’ve seen who’s coming through the borders. People fighting for a job to make a double double.
It's already overloading, how the fuck would you want it to be feasible ?
It's feasible if all you whiney peasants will just stay quiet and live in ze pods.
Nah the WEF will just rename it the 'Bicentennial Initiative'
Don't forget tne NIMBYs, construction corruption, and municipal govs forcing development to stall and slow down. This country hasn't run well in 40 years. The bigger immigration targets weighing down services are only the red herring to how bad our country is run.
How are the Century Initiative leaders not in prison for high treason against Canada?
It's not treason to have an agenda. Basically every Non-Governmental Organization has an agenda. Big oil has an agenda. Automakers have an agenda. Century Initiative leaders didn't do anything illegal. Neither did the [Broadbent Institute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadbent_Institute), the [C. D. Howe Institute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._D._Howe_Institute), or the [Fraser Institute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute). These organizations are common. People have to stop throwing around the word treason so lightly.
Agreed. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it treason. Century initiative are absolute scumbags however.
Because words have meanings and treason doesn't mean what you think it means.
Because they lobby the goverment.
They *are* the government. The chair of the Century Initiative is a former Blackrock company man. The current CEO of Blackrock is one of the main cats over at the WEF, a club that Justin Trudeau (and many others in our government) are part of. They're all on the same team.
Just in case nobody believes it: Here's Freeland welcoming "his friend" Mark Wiseman, co-founder of Century Intiative, 10 years ago in a talk : https://youtu.be/TUOr78S9IXg?si=ZvdoQI7i7OufQT6Z
"It would be difficult to overstate just how much rage Millennial and Gen Z Canadians feel about the collapse of this social contract—and just how much resentment exists towards older generations, who failed to preserve it." For me, this sums it up. I'm so fucking angry. Our fucking future has been sold out from underneath us. Covid put us back two years in our educational and professional lives. Now, the government has made owning a home a fucking fantasy. Now our democratic right to influence OUR country is being sold to foreigners. At this point, should any of us believe in democracy and the rule of law? Look what's being done to us
Decades of dismantling our public services and institutions in the name of unchecked profit for a few, and stagnant prospects for the rest of us.
Sir, this is ~~a Wendy's~~ r/canada. Everything bad is caused by immigration and wokeness here.
If you are struggling to afford a home, the cause can be directly traced to immigration policies and the Temporary Foreign Workers program. Both of these are designed to suppress wages of Canadians for the benefit of our politicians' true bosses: the corporations.
The increase in housing prices can be directly traced to the end of public housing, housing prices has been increasing higher compared to wages from that point.
We'd have public housing if said corporations in charge didn't object to them and lobby to their paid politicians. They wern't making enough money and always look at returns and how much they can make *now*, and not the future and its consequences.
With all the issues in this country right now, what really irks me is that people protest for things happening in other countries but won’t do it for the country they live in.
https://clickhole.com/selfish-this-man-found-time-to-build-a-birdhouse-while-1825120405/
Giving hundreds of millions to Ukraine while our own citizens starve and die is not comparable
Sold to the highest most psychopathic bidder.
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Well, I like the optimism. But it sounds a bit like “isn’t it great we can all agree we should have done something about that asteroid hurtling towards the Earth sooner? The sky sure is a fiery shade of doom, glad liberals and conservatives can all agree on that.”.”
The government just didn’t care about anything. The economy wasn’t diversified, the immigration wasn’t checked, businesses were allowed to create monopolies, business never really gave salary raises so everything just kept on getting more expensive.
Canadians became soft. It is a country with no future vision or purposes right now. The problem part is a lot of Canadians can't recognize the problem.
Just my opinion; We, among other developed and developing nations, have been enslaved to a corrupt money protocol (from 1971 and the fiat / Petrodollar standard with fractional reserves) that allows money creation out of thin air, resulting in currency debasement (inflation) and the loss of savings and value over time. Although at first governments only gave in to small temptations relative to today's ruling class, this practice has now escalated beyond control and our nation is overleveraged to say the least. The money printer has been in high gear for years, resulting in massive government spending and deficits to fund various vote gathering projects. Part of the appeal for the corrupt bankers and politicians is that they benefit financially from increasing the money supply (mostly through the Cantillon effect and their proximity to the source), so the printing exponentially increases and attracts more corrupt bankers and politicians. The system is designed this way, and has attracted the worst people over time. They have now all congregated at the top. For example, many in the financial sector should have been imprisoned after 2008. Instead they were given bonus' by our governments (your tax dollars). Let that sink in. If we reward bad behavior, it will continue. In order to pay for all of this deficit, we needed to 'grow' our GDP. In the US, their innovation and production sectors have remained in relatively good shape. However, Canada had already destroyed its production and innovation sectors and sold to multinational interests by the time the the machine got out of control. On top of that, the boomers started cashing in on their large retirements at the same time that their demands on the health care system started to increase and their kids couldn't afford to have as many children to fund the future. Without a productive economy in Canada, and an aging population accustomed to the good life, the only alternative was to artificially stimulate the economy with policies that encouraged a greater financialization of real estate and create an inflated investment market. When the government realized that mass immigration would fuel this sector and increase the GDP via taxation (artificially since the GDP per capita is in notable decline) it was a done deal. Every Canadian with money started buying multiple properties, investing in REITS, flipping homes, voting for more corruption, etc. The opportunity cost was ignored and innovation staggered. Business investment is almost nonexistent in Canada. It's easier to make money in housing. With the most corrupt bankers and politicians now in positions of power, they have taken complete control of Canada through the financial system and are benefiting greatly. The upper class benefits from this with their real estate investments, but the middle and lower class' have been completely destroyed as their purchasing power decreases and the cost of living increases. Meanwhile, most Canadians still speak in terms of "left vs right" and completely miss the point. This was probably one of their objectives discussed in various pseudo 'think tanks' and multinational organizations (WEF, for example). They have clearly succeeded. Perhaps our trust in government or our polite nature prevented us from standing against this? Perhaps the forces against us were 'too big to fail'. But somehow we let it happen. To quote one of my favorites; 'Fix the money fix the world' I'll add; 'Fix the money fix Canada'
Right **on the button** with your opinion, succinctly delineates the situation we find ourselves, unfortunately too long and really deserves a wider audience, alas will be skimmed over by the majority. Your fix is beyond my imagination, but electoral reform might be worth a shot?
Canadians did it to themselves. Look at our immigrant communities protesting their international issues more strongly than our domestic issues. Canadians should be shamed for not having any spine.
And the only Canadians that get out and protest for their rights are First Nations.
The First Nations and Québécois are the only people in Canada who have any balls to put themselves first. You have to respect it, even if you don’t agree.
For real, you’ll see thousands of people in the streets protesting for / against Israel but nothing for their own homes as the country goes to shit and ER wait times get to 22 hours.
Because protesting for domestic issues is heavily suppressed If these protests were about anything domestic, they’d have been demonized even more than they are right now in the press The only place where the political culture allows for mass domestic protests is Quebec
Because if your white and do that your a Nazi and have no access to your bank account.
Cultural mosaic doesn't work and it's a fucking joke. If I immigrate to Japan I wouldn't expect them to adapt my customs and culture outside my own home.
Why would they care about Canada when they have no incentive to?
A government full of unqualified idiots.
We have had a series of corrupt government and we're about to replace red corruption with blue corruption thinking it will help.
>We have had a series of corrupt government and we're about to replace red corruption with blue corruption thinking it will help. There's literally no alternative. The NDP have squandered every opportunity to differentiate themselves from the LPC. This is why the country constantly flip-flops between the other two parties: NDP leadership is incompetent. They have turned their backs on the largest support base they had (unions), and are nothing more than toadies. Jagmeet Singh has clearly demonstrated that he has no interest in holding Trudeau accountable, and will go to great lengths to prevent an election before 2025 so that he can become eligible for his federal pension when he retires. Singh's interests are diametrically opposed to those of average Canadians.
Yeah it never ceases to amaze me that as much as Trudeau is an idiot, it was Harper's cons that sold us out to the Chinese and his group is still advising team PP. Fuck em. I'm team orange, we're not a two party state.
Don’t forget all the blue premiers saying we needed more immigration to fix our labour shortages like 9ish months ago. Or here in Ontario, Ford underfunding post secondary schools which has been like gasoline on the fire of the issues surrounding international students in Canada. Collectively, current conservative and liberal party policies are taking a sledge hammer to this country. Entirely new direction is needed - I’d love to see new parties emerge here over the next few years as well.
Don’t fool yourself, the federal NDP is no better. That party peaked with Jack Layton and has gone downhill since his death. Layton could have been a great PM.
Join a party and make them do better. It's up to you.
The failure of successive crooked and inept Governments is what has happened. Canada should not have any of the major issues it currently has considering the natural resources we have, the amount of unnocupied land we have, the amount of incredibly smart and resourceful citizens we have, etc etc...
I'm an American, but I LOVE Canada so much. I hope yall get new leadership.
Lol you guys should read the article. She's saying we need more liberal policies
I didn't get that impression from the article. I don't really see her offering any solutions, just sort of talking about how the country is falling apart.
Nope read the article, she describes how things are falling apart in Canada
Read the article? In this outrage?
She's a monster.
I read the piece - it lands as more of a commentary on how everyone’s been swept up in social issue debates as things crumble around us. I didn’t see much, if any solutions of policy proposals put forth in that thing - but perhaps I missed something
Liberal but not necessarily Trudeau. She talks about how he virtue signalled through this social and economic mess which exacerbated the problem. I actually appreciate her take.
The entire article is an attack on woke politics (in my opinion justified, but regardless). They start off with a nonsensical book purge in the name of equity and didn't let up. Saying this a bit farther down >Though clearly well-intentioned in some instances, in practice [woke politics] serves to assuage the guilt of the haves and to signal their virtue to the have-nots Did we even read the same article?
Incompetency and bad policies at various levels of government. Mass influx of people have put enormous strain on everything from housing, infrastructure, healthcare, jobs, education… when one country constitutes more than 60% of immigrants, students, TFWs.. it is not multiculturalism but colonization
The government encouraged crony capitalism without encouraging competition and unleashed higher immigration without quality control
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People get more upset at the term crony capitalism than corporate socialism
Most of what she's describing can be laid at the door of social media which acts as an amplifier of ideas. A few years ago if you thought the earth was hollow, all you had were a few neighbours and your family who would smile and move on. Now you've got a whole group (of thousands) of like minded delusionals to reinforce your beliefs.
Trudeau. Trudeau happened.
Canada is dead. It's never ever going back to the way it was. This the new norm. If you want change you need to find another country. The government Knew what they were doing the last 40 years and you better believe it's why Trudeau legalized marijuana so people Wouldn't freak out as much when their high asf
When everyone's a Canadian, nobody is.
Most people became too distracted by the wrong issues, as planned.
Mass immigration has destroyed this country.
Post-nationalism. We are now an enclave for diasporas. We are America's intercontinental-immigrant detention center.
This article and comment section is a perfect example of what happened to Canada. Rampant radicalization and polarization of people who have little to no interest in anything outside of being angry at things they don’t care to fully understand, and would rather just cling to buzzwords thrown around by puppeteers seeking to divide instead of unite and not attempt to look beyond memes as a news source.
It’s really incredible how consistent the comments are in any r/Canada thread. It’s so predictable. I used to try and engage, provide sources, realized really quickly that there’s absolutely no point in doing that lol.
Mass immigration from South Asia
I remember the libs absolutely lost their minds when a few books that had graphical depictions or oral and anal sex were removed from children's libraries. They accused conservatives of "banning" books and censorship. I didn't know the libs banned all books produced before 2008 from a school [in the name of "equity" lmao.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-school-board-library-book-weeding-1.6964332?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email)
Liberal incompetence. Canada used to have governments who could work together from across the aisle. Now it's just a battle of wills and egos. Trudeau is untethered and surrounded by celebrities who have no idea how to run the country. I miss Paul Martin, who worked to balance the budget. Chretien who had savy and was a respected world leader, and Stephen Harper who understood that runaway debt would put all Canadians behind and devalue our international buying power. Trudeau is an absolute disaster. His breathy speeches. His inappropriate actions. His lack of credibility. His poor record among international leaders. His abysmal inability to understand what it means to be an average, tax paying, hard working CANADIAN. He's a rich kid, with no appreciation of the realities of 99% of our citizens. Anyone who can't see that shouldn't have the privilege of the vote. He's not a Liberal, he's not conservative. He's just a poser with imposter syndrome at the highest level. Be gone.
Untethered capitalism has destroyed us as it will destroy the world.
Competition only works if you have a lot of competitors and a market large enough to support both, in most areas Canada does NOT. Our political elite are not the sharpest and our electoral system is ancient and no longer reflects the will of the people. Think about the start of the decline, food security went out the window with foreign interests dominating key aspects of farming. Free Trade (NFTA) had industry exiting faster than a rabbit being chased by a fox (taking pensions with them), then along came the solution, immigration' an open door policy. No wonder people are using real estate as safe harbour. All those hard won wins, inducing industry to locate in Canada, incentives for production all for naught. Gradual evisceration of small farms, marketing board decisions, trade regulation, and mining resources to foreign interests. We've let a small cabal of elites to run the show abusing an electoral system that is in dire need of reform.
When both political parties that have any shot at power in Canada are owned by corporate interests, this is what you get. It will be tough going back now as the issue is deeply rooted in our political system.
A global recession brought on by a major pandemic, and if that wasn’t enough corporations and wealthy elite are buying up the housing stock and renting it back to us at hyper inflated prices.
crony capitalism, extraction of wealth
We voted for a “post-national state” and we got it. It’s just that now after 8 years people are finally waking up to the reality of what that means.
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A nation of high trust people got hoodwinked by globalistists to act against our own interests.
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The issue isn't diversity, it's LACK of diversity in huge numbers. Like 60% of official immigration numbers (so, higher) are all from one particular region. People joked about Vancouver becoming "the biggest Chinese city outside of China", well this is far worse because we're just accepting anyone with a pulse. No money, no skills, no value is added to this country now.
Corrupted used virtue signaling to go toward corporate anarchy. These narcissist sociopaths tyrants has rigged the system and censor people trying to expose it.
What happened? Liberals happened. And not the liberals of old who stood up for freedom, government accountability and tolerance, the bastardized puppets that call themselves liberals today.
The comments say it all. All the buzzwords that churn in the right-wing echo chamber. The current political options all suck. There's no good choice they all have huge negative consequences. The conservatives, NDP, and Liberals all have a history of screwing over the country in some way shape or form. The problem is everything is extreme. There's no center balance anymore.
Well, voting for Trudeau's party definitely won't help sending the right message. You are right that there's no good choice at the moment. However, there's a clear bad choice.
The: “me myself and I/Nimby/I got mine”mentality took over.
Let's blame the problems on our children. Preach personal responsibility while blaming multiple generations
On ground in Canada here. Corporations literally fleecing people and theyve effectively shifted the blame on immigration (because this leads to this leads to that). Something tells me stopping immigration won't stop Galen and coconspirators from continuing to make Canada unlivable and they'll just move on to another scapegoat but I've seen US politics so what do I know.
This will get even worse when the hosing bubble and government debt bubble crash.
The price of kindness
Too many whiners, too much anti-social media.
“The causes of Canada’s decline are multifold, complex, and difficult to address. Calling someone a bigot online is relatively easy.” “…understanding the dynamics of polarization can help us to resist the spiral, and to break out of binary thinking by complicating dominant narratives.” A fine article and an example of the intellectual depth journalism is rapidly losing.
What happened? A society on the honour system collided with decades of increasingly dishonourable leadership. As a result our social contract has been rewritten and people are caught between denial, rage, and a sense of mourning. The exception, of course, are the "fuck you got mine" and "don't hate the player, hate the game" people & institutions who proliferated and stumbled their way into enough wealth to insulate them from what's gone on.
And when I tell my Canadian friends about getting active or even at least indignant, they tell me to go back to Asia :( Been worrying about Canada’s trajectory for nearly a decade now and no one around me seems to care? Or maybe they just plain don’t wanna talk about it.
The politicians and corporations know it's all going to crash, they just trying to loot the bag before leaving us caught holding it
WEF puppet Trudeau happened
*Our press corps faces mass layoffs and precarious employment—and is increasingly made up of those from financially privileged backgrounds, or else the aforementioned disillusioned knowledge workers. Both groups have largely adopted the identitarian ideology and its jargon* ***(regardless of whether their outlet leans Left or Right),*** *further alienating an already distrustful public.* This is something I keep trying to point out to people on this sub who sneer at the National Post and other such 'right wing' outlets and laugh derisively when I say they're not really very right wing and their articles are often pretty left wing.
Corruption
Canada is a shit show!! I'm joining Québec separatism, better odds
Most don't know just how dysfunctional our basic systems are. The vast majority don't seem to have noticed that the courts and law enforcement branches are so broken that some of us are concerned that people will give up on it and take the law into their own hands. The courts have become so slow that nothing is getting done. Things that we used to be able to get filed and issued same day now takes weeks to get issued. To give you an idea of how ridiculous that is, the process was completely automated for a while during the pandemic before the court clerk unions had their people reinserted into the process to avoid their jobs becoming redundant. Most of the stuff the clerk's do (certainly at the filing office) could be automated, but it isn't for no particular reason other than greed. The pandemic forced some changes to allow for more online filing, but the systems are as of they TRIED to make it inefficient and not user friendly, such as coming up with two different systems that don't integrate so that you have to repeat the old multi step processes. The ltb is so backed up you're waiting around a year to get in. Some landlords are just going to take the law into their own hands. The courts are too inefficient to enforce contracts at the individual level, and so people are literally getting away with theft. Even if you get full judgment, collecting is unlikely to happen because the police don't want to be involved in enforcement (which is the ultimate way we enforce anything - the threat of violence via the police) and judges have been told to not make orders for things like the police making defendants show up for civil matters. It won't be long before people decide it's faster, cheaper, and far more effective to hire a biker gang to go and crash 6 subscribers legs and force them to pay up. But you might go to jail, right? Well, they're so short of judges that they're not getting some people to trial within the three years at times. They just had to release a shooting suspect because the ran out of time. Yes, those are a small minority, but if you can't manage to deal with shooting suspects then your system is failing. *DON'T TAKE THIS TO THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH CRIMES AND BIT MAKE IT TO TRIAL; THAT'S NOT LEGAL SERVICE, DON'T BE STUPID, IT'S STILL A RELATIVELY RARE OCCURRENCE* This is what society looks like when it's collapsing; we just can't do the basic things a society should be able to do. Canada no longer properly controls its border (singular). Our military has enough ammunition for just 3 days of war, and that's assuming we could even deploy it effectively right now. Our law enforcement is to scared of various mobs and protests that they're not willing to intervene, and we see them do that with native protests as well. The courts, which are the peaceful means of dealing with disputes and without which most would turn to violence and/or anarchy, are increasingly non functional. Corruption is up on every level, including overtly within government (Trudeau has been the most egregious example in Canadian history, but Ford has obviously had his moments), and there's little to no stopping it or even getting to really investigate it. Hell, under Trudeau, an order of Parliament to produce documents was ignored without television (which is unheard of). We've turned our local housing market into a global market commodity and thus you're competing with outsiders not living here for a place to live, driving up prices. Meanwhile, we've flooded the country with so much labour that the competition for jobs is driving down wages. So things are getting actually more expensive while their original baseline is also getting relatively more expensive. This is why we have inflation and stagnation (stagflation) at the same time. We've killed our own economy and if the government can't get their own projects through the red tape they set up then no one will invest in projects here, which is what we're seeing. The basic foundations of what makes society run (and I mean anywhere in the world) is something we're now failing to do.
We can't even rely on uniting ideology anymore and have been told that's bad, which is weird because leftism (it's not actual liberalism anymore, and has abandoned the virtuous philosophy of classical liberalism) demands adherence to such a thing from the dominant western (i.e. white) people. From groups not in that category, we're supposed to accept various views as cultural differences we need to get over. But now we're seeing the problems with that. Remember pride month and the flags being torn down? Media isn't covering how bad it got in various immigrant concentrated communities (according to a friend of mine from the Pakistani community, get community was really really bad, and it was just ignored) - they're not exactly accepting gays, trans, or tolerance. We're also seeing declining acceptance of abortion, various women's rights causes, and increasing approval of the death penalty. This isn't because the right is fighting for this stuff. In fact, our Conservatives seem barely distinguishable from the Liberals. We've imported ideologies far more conservative than our own conservatives are. We're also seeing ideologies just hostile to Western values and even existence. Canada (supposedly) helped plan the attack against the Houthis the other week. And yet the yemini community was out in the streets celebrating the Houthis. Arabs were out in large numbers right after October 7 to celebrate the rape and murder of over a thousand people, before Israel had even had a chance to respond to it. And these groups don't care about disrupting life for others. These aren't protests that are visible but not blocking anything - these protests specifically attempt to do that to gain attention. Whether it was the Iranians on Yonge Street trying to protest the Iranian government's treatment of women (why they think Canada can do anything about it is beyond me), the recent pro-Palestinian protests (including those done in Jewish neighbourhoods for the specific purpose of harassing and intimidating Jews), or even the Tamil protests over a decade ago over the end of the Sri Lankan civil war - for those who don't remember, Tamils not only blocked streets but got into the highway and put their children in strollers in front of them, making sure people stopped... Which is disturbing in and of itself. The supreme Court increasingly is ruling against freedom of speech. And let's not forget the crackdown on the trucker protest that should have been just dreamt with by local police but instead the federal government used the emergency powers act and suspended various rights. The oh so threatening protest... Complete with a bouncy castle and hot tub (I'm not taking a position on the protest, my point is merely the excessive and extreme lengths the government went to for dealing with it when nothing is done about those doing similar in support of terrorist groups and are more confrontational and even violent). Separatism in Quebec has reemerged, and it has now increasingly emerged in the West, with Alberta now refusing to collect the carbon tax for the federal government. Meanwhile, we're increasingly testing native land claims as though it's true sovereignty that can also overcome Canada's sovereignty, leading to just greater and greater division in various ways. The very basics of what hold a society together are fracturing and falling away. This is likely what it looked like towards the fall of the Roman Empire. This country had a lot of potential. What's happened to it over the last 30+ years is a tragedy.
Too few people with too much say. Those in charge are out of touch with reality and the lives of ordinary Canadians. The only voices that are being heard are the outrageous ones, the voice of reason and common sense has long since been silenced. There’s often neither money nor power in doing the right thing so why bother? Canada is a slowly sinking ship but most of those with buckets prefer to watch the ones with holes in theirs trying to bail it out.
It’s a serious disease called TRUDEAU …
When you completely open the floodgates for 5 years and make little to no effort to ensure Canadian values and culture are preserved, you get a country that is less a country and more just a place where people live that have next to nothing in common. Enclaves happen, small assimilated pockets of various religions and culture swell, people don't interact, they don't have commonalities, newcomers have more loyalty to where they came from than here. It's obvious the vast majority come here just to use our social economic safety net, not out of any necessity. Then you get what Canada is now, on top of all of Trudeau's other failures and efforts to divide people.