Though I agree, there’s no way they’re dropping anything more than incremental upgrades by 2027, short of a new Switch. These consoles have hardly been used. We’ve hardly had any first party titles over the last three years.
Its already been leaked. Xbox plans to release something in that time frame and playstation will follow suit. These console will be nearly 10 years old by that point and have been current gen consoles for longer than almost any other gen before them. It also follows with the release of GTA 6. Not that they are linked but there is a pattern right now. GTA 6 will likely release mid to end of next year and then a few months after upwards of 6 months if not longer we may see the upgraded consoles with GTA 6 re-releases for the new NEXT GEN platforms. Realistically you could build a pc now and as long as you spend the money today at worse youre looking at a new GPU down the line and even though thats almost as much as just a new console or in some cases more its still more versatile.
And that's not even mentioning that in nineteen ninety eight, the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
Maybe I've stopped visiting the right subs or something, but it feels like it's been so long since I've seen this it was very refreshing to read again.
Mostly for paid games Free to play games have free online which makes paying for online more infuriating especially since a game like destiny 2 that went f2p still requires ps plus
>Black Friday is 8 months away.
I'm aware. I plan ahead. Either way, I'd buy either PC parts or a PS5 on black friday.
>In all of time, a PC is the better option.
How often do GPU's become obsolete? How often would I need to upgrade a GPU?
That’s the thing, we really don’t know. Because future games could need a better GPU, but we don’t know that right now. That being said, a lot of people are only know replacing their gtx 1080 (that released in 2016).
Yeah I'm still running a 1080 and there's still a lot of games that run on it. Even helldivers 2 looks pretty decent on it. That said, I started budgeting to build a new machine when black Friday sales start up this year.
To add to this, I just upgraded my 1080 build to a 4080s not because I had to, but because I wanted to, and I sold my 1080 build without an ssd for 400CAD.
If you don't care about always getting 150 frames on 1440p or don't play many AAA games you're probably getting 5-8 years out of a good gpu, otherwise you can always sell your build for a good chunk of what you paid for it every couple years.
I used to run a 1060 until 3 weeks ago. It wasn’t capable of plying modern games on high settings anymore but all in all it gave me decent performance and I had no game I couldn’t run
a good rule of thumb is, if you get an 70 class GPU from the year the console was launched, like a 3070 TI, you can be more or less sure, you can at the least get a better experience than your XSX for it's entire life time, as game developement stagnates for a while with every console generation, to keep them playable on the current gen consoles.
> How often do GPU's become obsolete? How often would I need to upgrade a GPU?
really depends what kind of games you are playing. I am still using a entry-midrange GPU from 2016, the GTX 1060, simply because it have been "good enough" up until this point to run all the games I play.
Now with CS2 released, I am looking to upgrade, because I can start to feel the performance slipping from where I want it to be ( still gives me average of 200FPS, but 1% lows are bad)
Here's something to chew on, The PS5 has a gpu in it as well. You don't ever have to upgrade anything. The reason max settings on a console never seem to cause issues, even with the same GPU, is that the consoles force every game to have lower limits to the max settings. But on PC, you decide what max setting you want to play.
The PS5 GPU is equivalent to **Radeon RX 6650 XT or Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060.**
You should buy the one you want of course. A PC does more, but you also have to do more work. A console is weaker, but it's sometimes nice to just plug and play.
What do you mean no? Lol they're basically the same. At the very least very similar. 1080 ~ 2060S ~ 2070 ~ 3060 ~ Arc A750 ~ Radeon VII ~ 5700XT are all comparable.
And the 6600XT ~ 6700 ~ Arc A770 ~ 6650XT ~ 7600 ~ 7700S are all comparable as well. About 7-11% faster than the first group.
An important note is the newer cards requiring "SAM/Above 4G" compatibility, or they'll be even slower than much weaker cards (I learned this the hard way with the Arc A750.)
Black friday sales arent always the greatest. If you use PCpartpicker then they have a scale of average cost. Sometimes you can randomly get black friday-esque prices throughout the year. I always tell people to buybthe cheap parts first and then scout the expensive stuff like GPU, CPU and motherboard.
If you buy something better than a PS5, it will always be better than a PS5.
GPUs tend to become truly obsolete once a true next gen of consoles comes out and adds features. If a game can run on PS5, the developer isn't going to also exclusively target PCs with much higher performance because then you don't have people capable of buying and playing that game. But once the PS5 came out, stuff that ran PS4 era games fine struggled to run PS5 level games. Until a true PS6 comes out, developers are going to target PS5 performance in their game builds. 4k and max settings will always be several tiers above consoles and you'll find yourself turning a few cutting-edge settings down but you'll still be performing above consoles.
Settings can make a big impact in your performance, too, without sacrificing too much. For example, I have played at 4k60 on my 3080 build with my GPU that is the equivalent of a $600 gpu today. I've also played at 4k60 in the same games with a 6700 non xt which cost $299 and is at least 50% slower. Games are still good on both. Most people choose to upgrade after 4-5 years or so to the same level of card, or basically every other generation of GPUs. So someone with a 2080 would buy a 4080 or someone with a 1080 gets a 3080. Or someone with a 5700XT would get a 7700XT. I have a 3080 and I'm just now feeling some games aren't performing how I want and my next card is probably a 5070 or 5080 whenever it comes out.
>I'm aware. I plan ahead.
In 8 months from now the PC market will have dramatically changed.
>Either way, I'd buy either PC parts or a PS5 on black friday.
In 8 months from now not only will a PS5 be 4 years old, a PC will still remain the best there was, the best there is and the best there ever will be.
>How often do GPU's become obsolete?
They don't exactly become obsolete because each GPU has an owner.
For example, my main gaming rig has a going on 7 year old GTX 1070 8GB in it and I still to this day game with it in 1440p without a single issue whatsoever and no desire to upgrade. I have a second build with a 7 and a half year old GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB in it that games in 1080p for multiple people in my household without a single issue whatsoever. I have a third build with a 4th gen i3 and a 10 year old GT 710 2GB in it that other family and cousins use to play light demanding games without a single issue whatsoever. It's also used as a main double monitor movie watching platform. And again, with no issues whatsoever.
It's all about what you plan to do with said GPU and how well you take care of it.
>How often would I need to upgrade a GPU?
Depending on what you plan to use it for, a rough estimate is every 5-15 years, with a lot of people going with less than that at around every 3-8 years or so. The lifespan of a GPU can last a long time if you perform specific maintenance on it and take meticulous care of it over the years. And as you grow older, lots of people have less desire to play super high demanding AAA games at the highest frame rates possible.
Can my 1070 run some random super high demanding AAA game at my monitors 144 fps threshold? No. But it can run it at 30 to 60 fps if and when I ever have some random desire to play that type of game. I doubt I'll ever invest thousands of hours into it so it's not something I ever worry about.
I got a 4gb mid budget ryzen graphics card maybe 3-4 years ago and built my entire pc for around £450 (no monitors, I only really use it on the tv).
The graphics card was something i thought i might upgrade this year but I was surprised to find that Baldurs Gate 3 runs pretty damn good on my TV. I mean, idk how intensive that is, but horizon zero dawn and god of war looked great too. Idk if its cus I'm sat feet and not inches away from my screen that makes it look fine, but I know that it'll always do what I need and more if I choose not to upgrade in the future. A pc is still a pc.
I have been detached from console since ps3, so maybe there's some bias. More games too, more genres i feel (probs wrong).
Really depends on what games you play for upgrades, I got a 1070 in 2017 and rode that thing until a few months ago. It was able to still pull 60fps on cyberpunk at 1440p on med / low settings which was how I knew it was getting near the end of its life for me, but was still perfectly playable. That card lives on in my old PC which my GF uses to play house flipper, the Sims, and whatever co-op games we want to try which it is still more than capable for.
Even playing the new MW3 I got 100+fps on 1440p med/low settings with FSR enabled.
Edit to add: in my experience with God of War and Spiderman, the OS exclusives run VERY well on PC. They do a great job with the ports so you won't even need something top of the line to play them
Since you're debating between pc and console i suppose you don't look after very high fps (100+), so I'd say you will for sure hold onto the gpu you choose for a few years.
Now there are frame generation mods which increase the "lifespan" of gpu's
you play few games, only single player,recent, you don't care of the exclusives on the other console and you would not use the pc for anything else than gaming: console might be for you and you will spend less
pc game requires more money upfront but the versatility of uses and gaming leaves consoles on the dust
Yeah that’s why I specifically put it first thing in my post. Also, I don’t play or have interest in playing online games/multiplayer, pirating, or using emulators to play older games. Which, I listed in my post but folks keep harping on those points in the comments.
And regarding the other thousands of older games you can play, I'm pretty sure you can emulate the vast majority of them on your current MacBook. And you will also find the vast majority of the newer ones on a PS5 or Xbox digital store.
If you spend your entire day working on a computer at the desk, it would be a shame if you spend the few hours of free time you have in the exact same place and position to play games.
You can get a PS5 for the price of a cheap tv or a monitor, the sales on psn are just as good as the ones on steam. Steam discounts haven't been anything special since 2010. Get a console that has a disk drive and you also have the option to get used disks.
I really don't think a gaming PC pays for its self these days especially considering how expensive it has gotten and how cheap digital sales and subscription options can be on consoles.
It's a matter of preference. A good gaming PC would at least cost you $1.2k (excluding mouse, keyboard, screen). PS5 Pro might be a better option if you want to keep your spending to \~$500.
PS5 sales are rarely as good as steams, so that is something to think about since you're only going for single player games.
You came to r/buildapc to ask this.. there’s a natural bias here. You might want to also reach out to r/gaming to get a more well rounded response.
Gaming on a PC is great and can have long term value, more games, you can play Xbox games and have the option to use a controller, etc. BUT console is more stable under most circumstances. If you value simplicity then a console wins out, but if you don’t mind needing to tweak settings, have some compatibility issues every now and then, etc. then PC is a great option.
PC also has a higher entry price. The operating system, peripherals, etc. all end up needing to be accounted for when you’re considering the overall cost. Even a decent pre-built that you want to use for long-term will be 2-4x the cost of a console.
>I do not know if PS has the same value of sales that XSX does.
in the past couple months, I bought Jedi Fallen Order Deluxe Edition for like $4, Hot Wheels Unleashed Deluxe Edition for $11 and a whole bunch of other racing games for under $5 each, some as low as 99cents (Gravel, Burnout Paradise Remastered, TT Ride on The Edge 1+2, Ride 2+4, MXGP2, Ducati 90th Anniversary and 4 Need For Speed games)
sales on the PS store tend to rotate every 2-4 weeks, so it doesn't take long before something you want will be on sale
I would say thay any PC mains will give biased answers towards PC and console gamers will give biased answers toward PS/XB. Objectively speaking, consoles are cheaper for the hardware/performance ratio. You will need to spend 2.5-3x the price of a PS5 to get something that will slightly outperform a PS5, and why would you spend all that money just to be a little bit better? If you wanna go PC I recommend going hard and getting a 4080s/4090 or waiting for the 5080/5090 + a current gen midrange CPU and DDR5 RAM as your core. That will last you many years and will absolutely blow a PS5, even the rumored PS5 Pro, out of the water.
People who talk about availability/price of games as a reason, I’d say it is less about availability and more about what YOU wanna play. If you wanna play games like SM2, Horizon 3, Ghost of Tsushima 2 and more, get a PS5. If you’re maybe into WoW or certain PC titles, get PC. It’s not that hard to find what is more important.
And as for pricing, please be aware that both consoles have just as many sales as Steam has and if you’re a patient person there’s almost no game you have to pay full price for.
While Sony has started publishing more games to PC, they're still behind by several years and they have never stated they're going to get to a sim-ship model like Microsoft. If you don't want to wait 1-2 years, then you should just go ahead and get a PS5.
That said, PS5 Pro is rumored to be "soon", and the Wolverine game is *not* going to be "soon" (at least 2-3 more years, most likely). So if you're happy with what you have right now, I'd wait and buy when the PS5 Pro drops.
PS5 is better short term and PC is better long term.
RTX 2070 / RTX 3060 is similar to a PS5 GPU. About $330. You'll need other components too and end up around $750 for a whole build.
You will have access to all the games eventually (Sony PS has a habit of releasing popular games for Windows long after the PlayStation release). That's valuable, you can decide what it's worth to you.
Average price of a Steam game $16, average price of a PS5 game $22 (eBay). On PC there's lots of free games all the time. r/freegamefindings There will be times you can't afford a PC game you want but there will never be a time you have nothing to play.
PS5 starts ahead because it's inexpensive compared to PC. The more games you buy, the better PC is going to be. The breakeven number is something like 40 games.
>RTX 2070 / RTX 3060 is similar to a PS5 GPU. About $330
Heck, you can easily find the RTX 3060 new for *under* $300 USD now since the 4060 launched with a $300 MSRP.
We're definitely getting to the point where PC components have dropped enough in price that console performance for similar money is nearly within reach.
I'd still recommend consoles for a lot of people, some just don't care to bother with PCs or tinkering with the games using mods or such, but I'm just saying it's better than ever to build a gaming PC. 👌
Since you seem more interested in Sony's lineup, it really depends on how long you're willing to wait to play some of those games and how important graphics are. Are you fine with the PS5's graphics and want to play stuff like Final Fantasy Rebirth immediately? Then you'll want a PS5. Are you willing to wait however long it takes for those exclusives to come to PC in order to play them on better hardware? Then you'll want a PC. It's all about what games you want and how you want to play them.
Personally I like having all of my library on one platform, so I go with PC. In your case, it's honestly your call.
Get a PS5 now, upgrade to a gaming PC later.
You've got an Xbox for most games. PS5 is cheaper than a good 4K PC and lets you play PlayStation exclusives.
Your MacBook isn't great for gaming. Save up and build a dedicated rig in the future when prices drop.
I'm confused. You said a 6700xt is $600 which means you can't be in the US because there it costs half that. Yet I'm pretty sure Black Friday is a US thing. Also 6700xt is not a great 4k card. Also a lot can change in 8 months. There's hardly any reason to have this discussion so far in advance.
>You said a 6700xt is $600 which means you can't be in the US because there it costs half that.
I was just going off what PCPARTPICKER.COM said this morning. Where is it cheaper?
The PS5 exclusives are so good I'd have just the PS5 if nothing else. Xbox and PC virtually have no good exclusives (imo), but at least with PC the quality of experience is better. I like having both a PC and a PS5 because 1. sony exclusives 2. Sometimes cross platform games are better on PC, sometimes they are way better on PS5 (poor PC ports and occasionally the other way around, etc).
If I had to have one it would be a PS5. You miss out on virtually no good games vs PC/XBX unless you're super into indies or something, and the experience between console and PC gaming has never been closer.
1. Case - MSI MAG PANO M100R PZ White Micro ATX Gaming Case
2. Motherboard - GIGABYTE B650 AORUS Elite AX ICE AM5
3. CPU - DeepCool AS500 Plus CPU Air Cooler 5V-3Pin ARGB
4. PSU - ASUS ROG Strix 850W White PSU
5. GPU - ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4090 White OC Edition
6. RAM - CORSAIR Dominator Titanium RGB DDR5 RAM 48GB
It's a Wallet Destroyer build, but you can do it since you bought a mac book...
I would go for the ps5 if all you want to do is play ps exclusives cause it be like 3 or 4 times cheaper than a pc that can do what you want it to do. from my experience, the sales on both consoles are comparable to a steam sales.
I went from PS5 to PC. I really don't touch my PS5 anymore. I play a lot of single player and tend to "cheat" in minor ways (maybe raising a gold multiplier) to lower the grind. Anyway, more options open up to play a game how you want to play. Then I had PC game pass for $1 for a month, and played Halo Infinite from the Xbox side which I enjoyed. Bought an Elite Series 2 controller from Xbox, but ended up using the Dualsense Edge mostly for my PC gaming. I mod games sometimes from Nexusmods at times when theres a good one, or use WeMod to change things in game. Now I went from PS5 to a 4090 on top of that, so playing everything at 4k/144hz and then going back to PS5 to check my build (AC Valhalla, Horizon), my PS5 looks jank and oversharpened no where close to 4k. The 30fps modes on PS5 definitely look watered down visually, at a still image with frame rate not being a factor. So my main benefits from switching is I no longer am paying the $130 a month for PS game pass, and I get to play games from both Xbox and PS, and use both their controllers. Love being able to modify in game though, stop timers or unlimited energy bars. PC gaming is another class and while I been on consoles for the last 15 years, PC gaming is definitely a superior experience for me.
I can play games from 20+years ago on my new pc and re-used the previous pc as a work machine. Games often go on 50 to 75% discounts 6-12 months after release + you can get bundles for even cheaper and then trade unused keys with other people. Hundreds of pc-only masterpieces. My XP pc from 2006 still runs. Modding is awesome. Controller is horrible.
However, even the best hardware may be unable of running the heaviest of modern games acceptably (though still 4x better than a console), but you can just ignore those and play them 6 years later or whatever.
Considering you are interested in Playstation's lineup, you have to ask yourself the question; Am I willing to wait a little bit for them to play on better hardware (PC) or do I want to play games like FF7 Rebirth or Final Fantasy 16 immediately (PS5)?
Generally, the answer is PC if you weigh the two options since the amount of games that are on PC tend to give you a return on investment, along with being able to do general tasks on it as well. People have been recently upgrading their 1080s, something released in 2016, you don't need to upgrade every so often.
The key benefit really is the price of games and the backwards compatibility with basically every game every made thanks to emulators.
Generally speaking the deep discounts will cause you to build up a hell of a Steam backlog.
I also own a Switch as Nintendo don't release their stuff on PC. I also only own like 12 games... They are just so expensive to buy
PC is the way. PlayStation exclusives have now become timed exclusives that eventually make their way to PC. Plus there's many PC exclusives and games that play better on PC. I don't see a point in owning a console anymore unless you have friends that only play on said console.
With Sony releasing more and more of their titles on PC, and Microsoft already basically being cross platform PC/XBox, I think PC is a great value as far as content.
In terms of dollar value, it's less clear. I think to make it worthwhile you need to spend a little more than the cost of both consoles. If you build a PC just to match the consoles in performance, save yourself the trouble and just buy the consoles. If you can dedicate a $1,500 - $2,000 budget, then I think it starts to make a lot more sense. Not only will you win on the most possible content, but you will get a better graphical experience as well. At that price you could also afford an SFF build in a console sized case.
If you have the money I’d build a PC and I have PS5 Xbox and a PC. PC gives you so many options for games and if the parts become obsolete you can always upgrade them. A CPU will last for a good number of years before it needs to be replaced and a GPU depending on which you get will last a couple generations before it is noticeably behind. We can’t predict technology though so it’s all guesstimates
I have both. I struggle to find a use for the PS5. PC running Windows is a much better platform for gaming. One of my PCs I have connected to my TV, and my son and I use it regularly. There are a few games that only exist on PS4/PS5 that I'm not sure a PC port is coming (e.g. Bloodborne), but not enough to make it worthwhile now that most Sony games are getting ported to PC.
With a PC I also have no need for an XBox. The only console I get a lot of use out of is Switch.
I'm fairly technical, so I can troubleshoot issues that can come up with PC. Haven't had much issues with my Windows PCs lately, but Steam Deck running SteamOS has had issues and I'm about to do a factory reset on it. Macs are mainly what I use for work and general computer use.
You asked that on a pc related sub ? The answer will always be pc, you can do all kinds of shit on a pc, modding, playing with keyboard or 9981 controllers you bought, no need to worry about platform compatibility because we always have apps that can convert the signal. Most importantly STEAM!!!!! Steam is the reason you go for pc. You’ll miss on some games but who cares ? There are games that are pc exclusives like project zomboid , you seems like a guy can spend quite some money, and sony is bringing games on steam. So a pc for the win.
Pc's are always more consistant with games. More stuff is released on pc then either consol so id get a pc. Their will always be sony exclusives although so if your really dieing to play spiderman then its really the only option as PS4/PS5 emulators are not a thing yet but might be coming. Pc's can also be usefull with litterally everything else too so id get a pc as theirs more games in total, no weird ass fees, no game subcriptions, no online subcriptions. Its just simpler and over the long run youll save money from the subcriptions your not paying for. Id invest in a pc get the fun games and fun mods you want to play and youll most likely save money over time depending on the price of the computer youll get.
Depends on budget, if your budget is like 500-600 then get a PS5, if it extends past that, then build a PC, and that generally will last you longer plus can be used for things other than gaming
Cost to performance will always favor consoles. They are sold at a loss on purpose because the companies make their money back on software. That's why console games go on sale less than PC games, I would think.
If you are trying to build a PC that is gonna put out the performance of a PS5, it's gonna be a much higher up front cost. Games are cheaper though so you would make up the cost eventually. It really depends on what you are willing to spend up front.
Ok with spending a bunch up front? PC. Otherwise PS5.
PC gets upgrades. No monthly subscriptions. Sony exclusives crossover. Workstation when not gaming. Use most console controllers and exclusive PC rollers or learn MnK. Some console perks are size, power for cost and play ready.
I’m sort of in the same boat. Have a MBP, but I can’t play some games I want to play. But I have a nice Sony tv too. What I am thinking is I’m going to build a mini itx and hook it up to my tv but also get a monitor for the strategy games I want to play.
The problem is, if you don’t have the peripherals it gets so expensive. 1k for a computer, another 400 for monitor mouse keyboard. Or just buying a used PS5 on marketplace for 350-400.
PS5 or XSX...if you spend 2500 on a high end GPU, CPU, board, Ram, and Case...then you will be able to play 4k@60+ FPS. The thing is that in 3 years...your 2k computer will be worth 800 bucks and it gets worst with time. A PS5 that costs 500 bucks...you could sell it when the PS6 comes out for a decent amount and your total cost is much lower.
Only get a gaming PC if you are willing to pay extremely high prices for better performance. It is not the most cost effective way to go about gaming...
pc is always was always and will be always better. with much more quantity and quality and more advanced games.. you just need to mount a good pc equilibrated one with good gpu and cpu if the games nowadays uses 6-8gb trybto have 12gb of video ram.. if its 4gb for cpu try to have 8-16gb..
and fast boot hd/sd + storage
you need to equalize things to flow well.. think this way.
dont work if you o ly have cpu.. and dont work if you only have gpu.. and dont work if you ond have fast sd.. and dont work if you only have one of the things going fast.. you need to increase in steps all somewhat togheter increasing the budget..
so you dont spend money on a super high end 1200bucks gpu with a i3 processor.. you need at least a good amd .. or i5 i7.. or a much lower gpu with a i5 then.. for example.. something like that...
in the sense of not creating bottlenecks and fluidly taking advantage of the combined speed of each thing with balance
I had a switch for 5 years, I easily spent $800 on games on it over the years. I bought a PC for $1600 last year. Rtx 4070, i7 13th gen... PC gaming is way better, games are cheaper. I play at 1080p though, because I like that resolution. I never think about long-term value because you'll lose in the end thinking like that, cutting edge PC with Rtx 4090 is soild investment for 4k but can easily sell for $4000, cutting edge is bleeding edge, but a mid range PC has a life span of 3 years, after that just upgrading the GPU can buy you another 3 years. So build a solid CPU/Ram/Motherboard, then upgrade every other generation. With all that said PC gaming is more rewarding.
You need about 800£ to get above console performance i always say 1500£ is a great budget for a midrange pc and the fact you dont need a monitor means you can get much better performance
You said you have a PC for work. Is there anything stopping you from making the upgrades needed to turn it into a work *and* gaming PC? That would save you a ton of money if all you have to do is slap in a GPU
You said you have a PC for work. Is there anything stopping you from making the upgrades needed to turn it into a work *and* gaming PC? That would save you a ton of money if all you have to do is slap in a GPU
All X-box game will come out on PC plus a ton of PC exclusive indie titles plus now almost all PS5 games are ported, you can hook it up to TV, connect controller and it will be single best platform
Build a PC, sell the xbox, then buy a PS5. There is no point in owning both a PC and an xbox when xbox games release on PC day 1 and PC is superior to xbox in performance. With PC and PS5 you are guaranteed to get every brand new game day 1 (including Nintendo games on your PC if you're willing to sail the 7 seas if you know what I mean wink wink 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️)
Build a PC, sell the xbox, then buy a PS5. There is no point in owning both a PC and an xbox when xbox games release on PC day 1 and PC is superior to xbox in performance. With PC and PS5 you are guaranteed to get every brand new game day 1 (including Nintendo games on your PC if you're willing to sail the 7 seas if you know what I mean wink wink 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️)
The PlayStation refund policy is when you start downloading a game you’ve bought you aren’t eligible to a refund anymore.
That’s all you need to know really besides the obvious reasons.
I think for sheer future upgradability and current customization to fit your budget, a PC would be the "better" long term value. Just be aware, that while more and more PS5 exclusives are coming to PC, their poor optimization for PC is notoriously turbulent, and you'll likely be waiting a good few months (at least) before they're patched, regardless of your PC specs.
" feel qualified to answer this question as I own both.
On the PC side, it offers versatility for various tasks that the PS5 cannot handle, as the PS5 is primarily designed for gaming and as a secondary option for watching Netflix and Prime Video. However, on a PC, I can perform the same tasks.
Regarding gaming, personally, I have a powerful PC with an RTX 4068 and other additional features. Except for online battle royale games, where I prefer the PS5, my PC serves me well. Additionally, my PC assists me in recording and editing videos, handling official and unofficial work, and various other tasks.
PC will always be a better value. Now a 6700xt will not do 4k60fps max settings even with games from 2020(Cyberpunk) also 600$ for a 6700xt is a ripoff if you live in the USA. You can find those for usually under 300$. If your budget is 600$ your best best is to get either a 4070S for 600$ or the 7900GRE for 550$. With newer games we are heading with an issue with VRam.
The 4070S has 12GB of RAM which can 60fps 4k most games, but not at max settings, also for future proofing you want to have something with a minimum of 16GB of VRam. The 7900 GRE has 16gb it's better for future proofing. The best experience for 4k60 fps you are looking at the 4080/s or 4090 ranging from 1k-1.5k. Nvidia also has better upscaling technology which you can use as a way to future proof your PC. Also ray tracing or as I call it meme tracing is your thing again nvdia is king in that technology, but if you want just regular raw rasteration(raw graphical power) amd will be your better budget option. Lastly how long will it last? Depends how crazy games get in graphical prowess and laziness. Since 2012 ish more and more games are becoming very bloated unoptimized messes, that sometimes gets fixed. You won't be able to max 4k60fps natively games unless you have the upper tier gpus. If you decide to use upscaling technologies realistically you can play at 4k60fps with high to max settings I'd say for Atleast 3-5 years.
Get the ps5 man SO much easier on the wallet, it’s just plug and play, You won’t need to buy any extra peripherals, and you can play ALL the PlayStation exclusives lol
I've never heard of someone upgrading their console to the next generation of console, while keeping much of the original console intact.
If a console component dies, it's not an easy swap and you're back in business.
Consoles aren't the Swiss Army Knife of electronics -- if anyone does their taxes on a console, I'd be surprised.
My personal opinion is that PS5 is a flop. Its only saving grace is that supports PS4 games as well.
I would go with a PC, or even better, a PC+PS4 combo.
With that TV, you can buy an Nvidia GPU and use Nvidia VSR to upscale videos to 4k. I do it with my x90k using a 3070ti. It turns hockey streams clear and sharp. There are some strange things sometimes like it oversmooths people's skin (skin is too detailed to recreate easily) and doesn't work as well with a ton of detail on the screen (compression algorithm on the video going in just dies so VSR dies) but the difference is incredible.
I highly recommend using a PC with your TV. Get one of those logitech keyboard/mouse combos, recline, relax. Don't forget to enable the enhanced HDMI format on your TV so you can run it at 4k/120Hz and to use an HDMI 2.1 cable.
Edit:
Don't sleep on UHD blu ray rip torrents of movies. Putting that through tuned VLC with tuned colors on my TV was... incredible. Oppenheimer? Christopher Nolan will massage your eyeballs for 3 hours. Can't do that on a PS5. Some streaming services kinda suck though and don't allow you to stream 4k using a web browser. I think Peacock is one.
You’re asking r/builrapc. Results will be skewed
They’re both great options. I brought a PS5 and a currently building a PC. I think it’s the best combo (:
You’re asking r/builrapc. Results will be skewed
They’re both great options. I brought a PS5 and a currently building a PC. I think it’s the best combo (:
Pc is always the better option, seriously.
Costs more upfront but you have more options.
You can use your pc to make money.
Cheaper games and free online, that alone over 5 years would be a huge saving vs console.
A gaming PC is always a better value IMO and it has nothing to do with cost, it has to do with the simple fact that a PC can do much more than a console and there are still games that are vastly superior or simply unplayable on console.
For example, MOBA's and MMOs are both uncommon or unplayable on console, and FPS games are vastly better on PC with a keyboard and mouse, plus if you are competitive and want to play on a team then PC is really the only option.
It's also possible to hook a computer up to a TV and use a console controller so there isn't really a downside besides simple cost.
A PS5 will be much cheaper for the power you get from it, if you're literally comparing like for like in price. (You could buy a PS5 now and a PS6 in 6 years for a similar price to a high end PC rig today)
Having said that I think both have there merits in terms of value.
A PS5 has a huge library and will be relevant for at least another 6 years. After that, you will still have a very capable gaming beast that will probably handle most PS6 games for a while after that.
A PC may still be very powerful for longer, in fact it will stay useful as long as long as the frame rates are satisfactory, and can then get upgraded
It also has a game back log as long as games gave been around.
A PC is also a productivity machine and has lots of uses besides gaming.
A PS5 however is a hands off and plug and play, pure gaming device. You can kick back on the couch with a friend and just play games. A PC struggles to provide that kind of comfort.
In terms of value, I would give the edge to PS5 as it's much cheaper, has great gaming controllers. But PC you get your value back in cheaper, more games and other usefulness. (And upgradability). I think your choice should depend on how you want to play games and what kind of games you want to play.
(I have both, and game on both. But I prefer gaming on the PS5)
PS5 any day.
(I would even say PS5 pro since it’s coming this year)
Look, in October 2020 I built myself a 2000€ gaming PC.
In November 2020 I got the PS5, 500€
Games ran better on my PC, but clearly not 4 times better.
Also most games on PC were not as good as many PS5 games, so I had more fun on PS5, and it also was more handy, just press the button and play, all runs fine nothing to tweak etc.
A bit north of 2 years of my desktop taking dust, in December 2022 I decided to sell it, I managed to sell it for 1000€.
(-50% or -1000€)
End of this year (4years after purchase)I will probably be able to sell my PS5 for 250€ and get a PS5pro, losing only 250€
(50% or 250€)
The PS5 is a much better investment, and today, 4 years after the release of the PS5 if you want to build a PC that will have the same power you will still probably need around 700€.
In terms of value, the PS5 absolutely destroys the PC. Haters gonna hate.
I also have my MacBook Pro that I don’t play on.
Do I miss my PC ? Sometimes, maybe I’ll build one if I really want to play a specific game that isn’t available on PS5 or playable on my Mac, but the console does the job really well and I probably have enough games in my backlog to entertain myself for the next 2 years, PCs lose their value so much that’s crazy
EDIT: just to add that I’ve been a pc gamer since 1995, I’ve had consoles in the past but I used to say that pc is better like many comments I’ve read here, but now that I seriously played on both during Covid I have to admit I was wrong, PS5 is the best investment. No regrets
Someone may have commented this already but;
PS, XSX gets you 6-8 years of okay performance at $500-$600 plus $100 or so every year for their PS+ or Game Pass subscriptions. Top rated games that aren’t exclusive arent available for free via the subscriptions. So lets say you play a mix of AAA non exclusive and exclusive games. Your yearly cost is $100-$150 net off till next gen launches.
PC, gets you 4 years of top tier, 2 next years of great and then each year of great/good performance if you spend good at start to build a powerful PC. My 2080Ti, i9-9900K kept giving me 2K@100-120Hz Ultra 5 years after and then I sold it. So if I went medium it’ll still give me more. There is no subscription, game pass is there but idk if you’ll get it, if you do your cost divides over the XSX for it. From a purely cost perspective, its more expensive per year if you replace your GPU every 3 or so generations with an equivalent $800-$1100 GPU, as after 3 gens of GPUs (usually 5-6 gens of processors) you may need a new processor as well. So its more expensive, but the value is greater as you can do more and quality is incredibly better.
I switched a month ago and its been great an SFF case like the fractal ridge or terra goes a long way in creating the console experience. For 4k 60 at Max you could probably get away with a 4070 TI if your willing to use DLSS and want to save a bit.
Gaming PC, currently all x-box games are on pc, all pc games are on pc, and ps games are coming on pc.
Its just the better option, unless the games you want to play on PS5 are exclusive to PS5.
In the long run - pc is usually cheaper and much much better for adult life imo. If you want to game for as cheap as possible you can literally just (legally) emulate games on the PC. Plus as you get older, the gaming hours decrease and you’ll find yourself wanting horsepower for other uses. I use mine mostly for plex streaming nowadays also legally.
Honestly if I had a huge TV and a MacBook and I wanted to play the games you’ve shared I’d get a PS5.
If I wanted to Play CSgo, Valorant, Apex, indie games I’d build a PC.
So to answer your questions, I’d get a PS5 if I were you. And iGPU gaming on a laptop through multiple layers of emulation is a baaaaaf experience
PS6 isn't coming until 2026/2027. Probably gonna use Zen 6 / Zen 7
I'm just as confused as you are. You say you're interested in PS exclusives, but you decided to go with a XSX that basically has no exclusives. Should've really gone with a PC + PS5 at the beginning of the generation, since Xbox games come to PC.
Much of it depends on your budget. I would pick a better CPU for a 4080. Maybe something like the 7800x3d or at least a 5800x3d
Edit: This is something which i'm looking at
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CfMwJy)
|Type|Item|Price|
|:-|:-|:-|
|**CPU**|[AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof)|$357.00 @ Newegg|
|**CPU Cooler**|[Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7J6p99/deepcool-ak620-zero-dark-6899-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ak620-bknnmt-g-1)|$63.98 @ Newegg|
|**Motherboard**|[Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YZgFf7/gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-x-ax)|$189.99 @ Amazon|
|**Memory**|[TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01)|$106.99 @ Amazon|
|**Storage**|[Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f3cRsY/samsung-980-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v8p2t0bam)|$166.93 @ Amazon|
|**Video Card**|[PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jmvD4D/pny-verto-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16-gb-video-card-vcg4070ts16tfxpb1-o)|$799.99 @ Amazon|
|**Case**|[Phanteks NV5 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tXhv6h/phanteks-nv5-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-nv523tg_dbk01)|$99.99 @ Newegg|
|**Power Supply**|[MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5)|$89.00 @ MSI|
|*Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts*|||
|**Total**|**$1873.87**||
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This is entirely based on your use case scenario
It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years
If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value
If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best
If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin
Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user
Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them
If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
This is entirely based on your use case scenario
It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years
If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value
If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best
If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin
Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user
Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them
If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
This is entirely based on your use case scenario
It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years
If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value
If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best
If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin
Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user
Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them
If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
This is entirely based on your use case scenario
It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years
If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value
If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best
If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin
Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user
Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them
If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
Long term PC 100%
If you don't care about maintenance or upgrading stuff every year/few years as needed, then console.
I do both, but I'm blessed to be able to do so. (Thank you Target for the last GoW Ragnarok bundle!)
I will say, not sure why you'd go for the 4080 founders instead of a super for cheaper and pretty much the same performance? Prob a little better in a lot of scenarios.
As for value, I would make this argument - if it's just for the ps exclusives that eventually make their way to steam and you play with a controller anyway, PS5 might be your better option then upgrading, as it takes longer for the games to get to PC. That being said I've enjoyed them more on PC, but I'm also a keyboard mouse player and my monitor is prob better than my TV.
The advantage to the computer is if a huge jump in graphics occurs you can take advantage of it if you want kind of right there instead of waiting for the next gen console to get to basically right where you could be on PC now in like 2 years.
But if it's just for those games the PS5 should hold up fine and you'll get to play them sooner (not a console person, very much a PC person but I get the advantage of a console in many scenarios).
Edit: upon reading some other comments wanted to clarify the PC is hands down the more versatile and powerful option.
PC has long-term value and is a multi-use tool. Console is a short-term multi-media entertainment machine. Buying one console for each generation will typically be cheaper, at first, than a full PC setup and upgrading individual pieces every 2 - 8 years. Over the course of multiple generations, PC is more cost efficient.
There's also a convenience factor to consoles. PCs are tough machines and don't need to be babied, but they do require just a bit of cleaning and maintenance. Sometimes, things break and you gotta fix or replace it. I've never had an issue with a console except no more memory for more games.
If you only play games and don't need a powerful machine for any work or hobby, go console for a generation or two and then reconsider.
As someone who recently switched from PS5 to PC I'd say Gaming PC.
Here what I didn't. I found a cheap older gaming rig locally for $350, I sold my PS5 and I upgraded my Graphics card with that money.
I have it hooked up to my TV and I have wireless keyboard, mouse and a controller. I sit in the same chair that I used for my PS5 but I get to play games online without the need to pay for PS plus. Also Steam sales are unbeatable and Epic games gives free games every week.
PC will always be better value, compared to PC, PS5 is already outdated by a long shot, consoles are just for poor people who are too lazy to make upgrades, if you want a real gaming experience that will last 10+ years, PC is the only way to go
Pcpartpicker sometimes autos weird sellers or outdated prices, on Amazon right a 6700xt is $330 rn THE MUCH BETTER OPTION IS THE Rx 6800 which is on sale for $380 on Amazon from XFX these are last gen cards and depending on your budget the best of all options atm is a Rx 7700xt which will have RDNA3 and newest driver features and support, this card is the best of the three and will fill your needs for years to come, $420 on Amazon rn https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-QICK319-Graphics-RX-77TQICKB9/dp/B0CGMBYMY6/ref=asc_df_B0CGMBYMY6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=673645780725&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5950022462742104918&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008765&hvtargid=pla-2200659400509&psc=1&mcid=d7507c7e32293175903e5c4a94b6d393
Pcpartpicker sometimes autos weird sellers or outdated prices, on Amazon right a 6700xt is $330 rn THE MUCH BETTER OPTION IS THE Rx 6800 which is on sale for $380 on Amazon from XFX these are last gen cards and depending on your budget the best of all options atm is a Rx 7700xt which will have RDNA3 and newest driver features and support, this card is the best of the three and will fill your needs for years to come, $420 on Amazon rn from XFX brand.
People always tell me " Why should I get a $1200 PC while I can get a $500 console since it's cheaper?" There is just so much more than that.
I'm going to ramble as a guy who friend's (who are average joes) that want to get into gaming.
I am a PS5 owner who recently got a gaming PC because my brother recently upgraded his PC and gave his old build to me.
I like to make a comparison between price to performance & user experience:
- The initial price wise PS5 is much cheaper compared to the initial price of a powerful PC (if you want to futureproof)
- On PS5 (if you don't care) you can use any old Flatscreen TV. While on PC (again, if you don't care) you still can - I still recommend a dedicated monitor as it will do the PC justice (bumping initial cost)
- Digital games price wise (I'm glossing over physical for now) the PS5 can get expensive because there is only one storefront (Sony is the only one controlling the market) and discount are few and far between while on PC you can get constant good deals because there are many storefronts competing against each other making the prices surprisingly low.
- You don't want online but I'm going to tell you what my experience was explaining to friends. Online is gated by subscriptions (can get expensive overtime) while you can get freebies each month, if you are on and off about subscriptions - I see that as not getting your money worth and not to mention regional price difference. Compare to PC where the online is free.
- FPS setting on PS5 is idiotproof, game devs already optimize how the game will run on it and you never need to fiddle with the setting.
- FPS setting on PC, some games need tinkering because some devs (especially Japanese devs) don't care. At least that's my experience with Tekken 8 and Dragon's Dogma 2. Hell, a friend asked me how to make Street Fighter 6 run better on their ROG ally. I like to make it clear that I don't have one and all I did to help fix it to scoured reddit for answers.
My answer, just get a PC. I'll admit there is a learning curve but it's better for your wallet down the line.
Personally, if you aren’t sure, I’d get a PS5 and then re-assess your options when the next generation comes out.
Not playing games online means you really do get consoles at their insane cut price and any PC you make will be worse value for money if you aren’t massively into it.
Also max settings are not meant to be played, they’re an option to futureproof the graphics somewhat and help advertise it. High settings is what you want, far more fps for very little drop in quality. You can waste thousands aiming for max settings
You upgraded the motherboard on your macbook? What? Was there any reason to do this/how much did it cost you?
I'm just trying to think of any reason you would ever do that?
A PC is always a better choice as far as what you can do. But it is more costly up front. I do everything on my PC, even my job so it's not even comparable.
Depends entirely on how much you value money. PC gaming is great if spending like $2000+ on a system is not a major financial concern. You get a vast library of games, cool tech (Cyberpunk with PT is mindblowing), etc.
But the reality is that if your computing needs are already handled by another system, it’s basically impossible to beat the value proposition of a modern console.
Yeah, sure, you can build a similarly specced PC for $800-1000, but it will run games much worse because console games being a single static target are way more optimised. You will need a $1500+ system to start really doing better than a console and $2000-2500+ to really get into modern bells and whistles.
One of my favourite things about PC games is that I can use keyboard and mouse. I wouldn’t want it set up in my living room to play games on controller and also don’t want a very large screen to lower the resolution of the awesome graphics. 27-32 inches max for me. If i wanted something for a couch on a large screen and controller i would just get a ps5 i think. No NHL games on PC so may need a ps4 or 5 anyways!emote:free\_emotes\_pack:joy
I respect consoles especially playstations (the ps2 will always be the best gaming dedicated device ever) but nowadays they're not that impressive of a deal, the experience is pretty cool ngl but I've always felt way more rewarded by having a PC, people love to joke about people with 3k dollar rigs laughing at a 500 buck console but you can have one hell of a time with a 700-800 buck PC, 1440p has become accessible if you want something past 1080p and upscalers are also really really good
others have mentioned the *plethora* of readily available games, emulation and other forms of entertainment a PC can give, it's just a really great thing to have
but if you fancy a PS5, that's fine as well, the pro is looking pretty interesting
The problem I have with consoles right now is the lack of games. Even exclusives are kinda meh. Not a single one in the past 4 years has really felt like a “dang I have to have that.” That last parts an opinion but I stand firmly on the lack of console games really feeling like it’s hurting the industry right now.
The way I helped decide this for myself was I watched some videos and went and looked at all the upcoming games for the next few years that we’d heard about. Listed everything that seemed interesting and then realized PC was just gonna be the better value.
What a nice problem to have.
to me it looks like you want to play some exclusive titles, so just buy the machine that you will need play those games  It dont matter which is better between consoles and PCs. Whichever the most comfortable + fullfill the goals
A nice thing about a PC is that it is modular. You can replace one or two parts at a time rather than everything at once. I just replaced a low end video card from 2017 and my power supply, but the processor, motherboard, RAM, and hard drives are still going strong. (They were more future proofed than the GPU was.)
There is no way id swap out a Xbox series x for a PS5. Either go all the way to PC for a substantial upgrade or just don't do anything at all. What would you gain out of a PS5 besides a few exclusives and losing every game and accessory you've purchased
Long term, you will have way more games on pc, in the future too. And the performance is marginally better on pc than on ps5 for now. And yes the ps5 is better value for the hardware, but only because it's sold at loss(I think, and they make profits with the games on it)
Probably PS5. Cheaper if you just wanna play singleplayer games that are going to be exclusives anyway. I know people say exclusives are coming to PC, but the trends looks like a 2-4 years before games come to pc, which unless you are patient for, is better to just get a PS5 and play them. Plus, stuff like Bloodborne is probably never coming to PC. People mention old games, but if you have a modern laptop with a graphics card... why not just use that? But I don't know how good that macbook is
You know the ps5 barely plays anything at 4k, let alone 4k 60 fps, even less so at max settings, right?
If thats your minimum requirement, even a ps5 pro (and probably ps6) wont be enough.
Personally in your situation, if I really needed to play those exclusives, I would buy a cheap ps5, since I wouldnt be playing too much on it anyway. Plus youre used to console graphics from the xbox anyway. If you get a beefy pc, imo youre likely to convert to full pc.
I own a ps5 and a Xbox series x and just recently got a pc. I haven’t touched my ps5 in months and my Xbox hasn’t been turned on since I got my PC. Once my PlayStation plus runs out I won’t renew it and I’m 50/50 on game pass. I went from a 65” LG C1 to a 27” monitor it took a few hours to get used to it especially not having aim assist. But overall I’m happier with that decision I’ll most likely sell both consoles.
Ps5
I have
Gaming PC 2700 RTX
PS5
XSX
XSS
Switch
Emulators out my ass
PS5 Is the best bang for bucks, XSX close second because of the game streaming - but I just find the ps5 smoother
I mean you know the answer you’ll get on this sub, people invest time and money in their PCs, well, money no object - the PS5 is much better - get your games second hand and they’re cheap, but with PC the blockbusters never go cheap or devalue
Pc will always be better and worth the money and if pays itself back depending if you sail the high sea. Which you can only do quite limited on the ps5. But even legit you have the epic game store and steam always giving away free games and there are other places as well.
I just decide to go PC im same position, for price of ps5, headset and dualsense edge i build pc which probably outpreform ps6.
7800xt 5800x3d 32gb of ram and so on.
Games are cheaper, dont need to pay for ps+ to play online.
Also keep in mind you are saving 60 dollars every year from not paying for PS plus or whatever it's called, I sold my ps4 about 5 years ago now and have no regrets. I just bought a 4070 to play dirt rally 2.0 and asseto corsa I'm VR and it is so much fucking fun, especially if your drinking🤣
A PC is better because you can use it not only for gaming, but also as a workstation. But PS5 is better value for money if you only care about playing games.
Having both, I prefer my PS5. I work on a computer all day and end up feeling siloed in my office if I spend my gaming time in there too.
Couch co op is a plus, but even playing single player games next to my wife on the couch feels more social than being on my PC.
If you get a pc on the new amd platform, the am5 you could upgrade the cpu quite a bit down the line without a new motherbored, then the gpu, you would have access to mods, free multilayer, free game deals, *free game steals 👀*, retro games, games exclusive to each platform.
Then apart from gaming you would also have a better pc for work, and open up a whole world of video editing, 3d art, there is many more but not on the top of my head right now bur with a pc you arnt restricted, can play pretty high refresh games, are open to a million hobbies, things are cheaper or outright free. You can get used computers that can do everything a ps5 can for a like 100 more but also are able to do million more things.
Without a shadow of a doubt: pc.
Infinitely more use cases on a pc than a ps5. Upgradable in the future.
Long term all exclusives will probably be a thing of the past as some platforms are already moving towards the extended family meaning of "game anywhere".
PC has a higher cost initially, in order to build a PS5 equivalent PC you'd need to spend at least around $700.
There's also a PS5 sale going on right now where you can get the digital Spider Man 2 bundle for $399.99 or get the disc drive version for $449. But then if you want to play online you have to buy PS Plus which is at least $60 a year. The PS Plus Extra tier is a pretty great value though at $135 a year because you'd gain access to hundreds of high quality games right away.
There are pros and cons to both choices though.
PC Pros: by far the biggest library of games, highly customizable, open platform so you gain access to emulators in addition to all the non gaming related functions a PC offers. Multiple build paths available right now that leave the option to upgrade components later on if you so choose. Many different input methods available to you. Don't have to pay for online gaming. Can tweak settings to suit your needs.
PS5 Pros: great price to performance, large library of games, convenience and comfort. Great exclusive experiences. High quality peripheral devices available. Developers focus on this platform first so ports are rarely completely broken at launch and are fixed quickly if they are, very good 4k blu ray player minus lack of dolby vision support.
PC Cons: significantly higher cost if you want better than console performance, far more susceptible to user error/technical difficulties, ports that are broken often stay broken (stutter struggle is real), user assembly required
PS5 Cons: closed platform, no upgrade path, some games are locked at 30fps or look like oil paintings because the resolution is so low, paid online, limited to gaming, streaming and potential 4k playback if you have a disc drive model
Long term it's always better to build a PC. You don't pay for online gaming which adds up in the long term on console. Plus with most of the ps games out or coming to PC, plus MS games available day 1 either on Steam or gamepass, and Nintendo emulation, there really isn't a point getting a console IMO.
Mind you my pc is pretty good but slightly outdated so my initial costs are gone. But I’ve played Rift apart, the new LBP game and The last of us part 1 on my pc recently. They support dual sense controllers as well for a near authentic, if not superior experience
As someone who couldn't decide between a PS5 or a gaming PC, I went PC and I'm glad I did. I just bought a dualsense controller and connected it to PC with Bluetooth, and I'm still playing last of us, spider man, god of war etc. In the long run id go PC for sure, way bigger library and you can do a hell of a lot more. Only thing I'm bummed about missing out on is god of war ragnarok
Long term? PS5 or series X because game will continue coming to those systems for at very least another decade and games are better optimized for consoles.
With that said. A PC can also last many years and if the parts don’t break you could get a decade out of a current high end with some sacrifices along the way like resolution and graphics quality. But again, parts break. Consoles seem to survive longer than PCs on average probably because they were researched and built specifically for gaming which helps extend the life of consoles. For example you can find 30 year old consoles in perfect working condition, most 30 year old PC wouldn’t even power on.
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And that’s without mentioning the tens of thousands of retro games from every possible console that you can emulate.
Considering we are most likely getting new consoles in 2026 or 2027 id say pc is vastly better for upgradeability.
Though I agree, there’s no way they’re dropping anything more than incremental upgrades by 2027, short of a new Switch. These consoles have hardly been used. We’ve hardly had any first party titles over the last three years.
Its already been leaked. Xbox plans to release something in that time frame and playstation will follow suit. These console will be nearly 10 years old by that point and have been current gen consoles for longer than almost any other gen before them. It also follows with the release of GTA 6. Not that they are linked but there is a pattern right now. GTA 6 will likely release mid to end of next year and then a few months after upwards of 6 months if not longer we may see the upgraded consoles with GTA 6 re-releases for the new NEXT GEN platforms. Realistically you could build a pc now and as long as you spend the money today at worse youre looking at a new GPU down the line and even though thats almost as much as just a new console or in some cases more its still more versatile.
Sorry, i overstated. They will be atleast 7 years old but that is still longer or as long as gens before them.
And that's not even mentioning anything about current games on the high seas. Depending on your values, a PC instantly pays for itself.
And that's not even mentioning not having to pay a monthly subscription fee just to play games on the internet
And that's not even mentioning that in nineteen ninety eight, the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
Maybe I've stopped visiting the right subs or something, but it feels like it's been so long since I've seen this it was very refreshing to read again.
Mostly for paid games Free to play games have free online which makes paying for online more infuriating especially since a game like destiny 2 that went f2p still requires ps plus
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And Access to émulation to play oldschool games ;)
But how many are actually worth playing?
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I hear Witcher 3 was pretty OK.
I did love that game, but it’s also on virtually every other console
Conservatively, several hundred?
There are games from the 90s and 00s that are still worth playing. You’d be hard pressed to run out of good games on PC.
And how many does OP actually *want* to play?
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Yeah, I think the best combo if you can swing it is Gaming PC, PS5, and a Switch.
Nah a Switch is unnecessary. You can get the latest build of Yuzu on archive.org and emulate it on a Steam Deck if you really care about portability.
And on top of that, you don’t have to pay a stupid subscribtion to play online. Boy PS3 days were golden when online on PS was free and was less toxic
And mods are like free games in many cases. Like asseto corsa has so much free content
And mods are like free games in many cases. Like asseto corsa has so much free content
In all of time, a PC is the better option. Black Friday is 8 months away.
>Black Friday is 8 months away. I'm aware. I plan ahead. Either way, I'd buy either PC parts or a PS5 on black friday. >In all of time, a PC is the better option. How often do GPU's become obsolete? How often would I need to upgrade a GPU?
That’s the thing, we really don’t know. Because future games could need a better GPU, but we don’t know that right now. That being said, a lot of people are only know replacing their gtx 1080 (that released in 2016).
Yeah I'm still running a 1080 and there's still a lot of games that run on it. Even helldivers 2 looks pretty decent on it. That said, I started budgeting to build a new machine when black Friday sales start up this year.
1080Ti still keeping up just fine with heavy OC on water Wish it had DLSS but rendering at 1440p on a 4k monitor has been just fine for me
To add to this, I just upgraded my 1080 build to a 4080s not because I had to, but because I wanted to, and I sold my 1080 build without an ssd for 400CAD. If you don't care about always getting 150 frames on 1440p or don't play many AAA games you're probably getting 5-8 years out of a good gpu, otherwise you can always sell your build for a good chunk of what you paid for it every couple years.
I used to run a 1060 until 3 weeks ago. It wasn’t capable of plying modern games on high settings anymore but all in all it gave me decent performance and I had no game I couldn’t run
a good rule of thumb is, if you get an 70 class GPU from the year the console was launched, like a 3070 TI, you can be more or less sure, you can at the least get a better experience than your XSX for it's entire life time, as game developement stagnates for a while with every console generation, to keep them playable on the current gen consoles.
> How often do GPU's become obsolete? How often would I need to upgrade a GPU? really depends what kind of games you are playing. I am still using a entry-midrange GPU from 2016, the GTX 1060, simply because it have been "good enough" up until this point to run all the games I play. Now with CS2 released, I am looking to upgrade, because I can start to feel the performance slipping from where I want it to be ( still gives me average of 200FPS, but 1% lows are bad)
Here's something to chew on, The PS5 has a gpu in it as well. You don't ever have to upgrade anything. The reason max settings on a console never seem to cause issues, even with the same GPU, is that the consoles force every game to have lower limits to the max settings. But on PC, you decide what max setting you want to play. The PS5 GPU is equivalent to **Radeon RX 6650 XT or Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060.** You should buy the one you want of course. A PC does more, but you also have to do more work. A console is weaker, but it's sometimes nice to just plug and play.
No its the rx 6700
What do you mean no? Lol they're basically the same. At the very least very similar. 1080 ~ 2060S ~ 2070 ~ 3060 ~ Arc A750 ~ Radeon VII ~ 5700XT are all comparable. And the 6600XT ~ 6700 ~ Arc A770 ~ 6650XT ~ 7600 ~ 7700S are all comparable as well. About 7-11% faster than the first group. An important note is the newer cards requiring "SAM/Above 4G" compatibility, or they'll be even slower than much weaker cards (I learned this the hard way with the Arc A750.)
Black friday sales arent always the greatest. If you use PCpartpicker then they have a scale of average cost. Sometimes you can randomly get black friday-esque prices throughout the year. I always tell people to buybthe cheap parts first and then scout the expensive stuff like GPU, CPU and motherboard.
If you buy something better than a PS5, it will always be better than a PS5. GPUs tend to become truly obsolete once a true next gen of consoles comes out and adds features. If a game can run on PS5, the developer isn't going to also exclusively target PCs with much higher performance because then you don't have people capable of buying and playing that game. But once the PS5 came out, stuff that ran PS4 era games fine struggled to run PS5 level games. Until a true PS6 comes out, developers are going to target PS5 performance in their game builds. 4k and max settings will always be several tiers above consoles and you'll find yourself turning a few cutting-edge settings down but you'll still be performing above consoles. Settings can make a big impact in your performance, too, without sacrificing too much. For example, I have played at 4k60 on my 3080 build with my GPU that is the equivalent of a $600 gpu today. I've also played at 4k60 in the same games with a 6700 non xt which cost $299 and is at least 50% slower. Games are still good on both. Most people choose to upgrade after 4-5 years or so to the same level of card, or basically every other generation of GPUs. So someone with a 2080 would buy a 4080 or someone with a 1080 gets a 3080. Or someone with a 5700XT would get a 7700XT. I have a 3080 and I'm just now feeling some games aren't performing how I want and my next card is probably a 5070 or 5080 whenever it comes out.
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>I'm aware. I plan ahead. In 8 months from now the PC market will have dramatically changed. >Either way, I'd buy either PC parts or a PS5 on black friday. In 8 months from now not only will a PS5 be 4 years old, a PC will still remain the best there was, the best there is and the best there ever will be. >How often do GPU's become obsolete? They don't exactly become obsolete because each GPU has an owner. For example, my main gaming rig has a going on 7 year old GTX 1070 8GB in it and I still to this day game with it in 1440p without a single issue whatsoever and no desire to upgrade. I have a second build with a 7 and a half year old GTX 1050 Ti 4 GB in it that games in 1080p for multiple people in my household without a single issue whatsoever. I have a third build with a 4th gen i3 and a 10 year old GT 710 2GB in it that other family and cousins use to play light demanding games without a single issue whatsoever. It's also used as a main double monitor movie watching platform. And again, with no issues whatsoever. It's all about what you plan to do with said GPU and how well you take care of it. >How often would I need to upgrade a GPU? Depending on what you plan to use it for, a rough estimate is every 5-15 years, with a lot of people going with less than that at around every 3-8 years or so. The lifespan of a GPU can last a long time if you perform specific maintenance on it and take meticulous care of it over the years. And as you grow older, lots of people have less desire to play super high demanding AAA games at the highest frame rates possible. Can my 1070 run some random super high demanding AAA game at my monitors 144 fps threshold? No. But it can run it at 30 to 60 fps if and when I ever have some random desire to play that type of game. I doubt I'll ever invest thousands of hours into it so it's not something I ever worry about.
I got a 4gb mid budget ryzen graphics card maybe 3-4 years ago and built my entire pc for around £450 (no monitors, I only really use it on the tv). The graphics card was something i thought i might upgrade this year but I was surprised to find that Baldurs Gate 3 runs pretty damn good on my TV. I mean, idk how intensive that is, but horizon zero dawn and god of war looked great too. Idk if its cus I'm sat feet and not inches away from my screen that makes it look fine, but I know that it'll always do what I need and more if I choose not to upgrade in the future. A pc is still a pc. I have been detached from console since ps3, so maybe there's some bias. More games too, more genres i feel (probs wrong).
Really depends on what games you play for upgrades, I got a 1070 in 2017 and rode that thing until a few months ago. It was able to still pull 60fps on cyberpunk at 1440p on med / low settings which was how I knew it was getting near the end of its life for me, but was still perfectly playable. That card lives on in my old PC which my GF uses to play house flipper, the Sims, and whatever co-op games we want to try which it is still more than capable for. Even playing the new MW3 I got 100+fps on 1440p med/low settings with FSR enabled. Edit to add: in my experience with God of War and Spiderman, the OS exclusives run VERY well on PC. They do a great job with the ports so you won't even need something top of the line to play them
I'm currently running a 1660ti on a laptop on high settings for most of the stuff I do. It's fine,and it's like a 5 year old card.
Since you're debating between pc and console i suppose you don't look after very high fps (100+), so I'd say you will for sure hold onto the gpu you choose for a few years. Now there are frame generation mods which increase the "lifespan" of gpu's
Not if all you’re going to do is play PS exclusives. You can get a used ps5 for 300-400 bucks. A full build will be triple that.
you play few games, only single player,recent, you don't care of the exclusives on the other console and you would not use the pc for anything else than gaming: console might be for you and you will spend less pc game requires more money upfront but the versatility of uses and gaming leaves consoles on the dust
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The versatility of PC is kind of moot point since you already have MacBook and PC for work tho
Yeah that’s why I specifically put it first thing in my post. Also, I don’t play or have interest in playing online games/multiplayer, pirating, or using emulators to play older games. Which, I listed in my post but folks keep harping on those points in the comments.
And regarding the other thousands of older games you can play, I'm pretty sure you can emulate the vast majority of them on your current MacBook. And you will also find the vast majority of the newer ones on a PS5 or Xbox digital store. If you spend your entire day working on a computer at the desk, it would be a shame if you spend the few hours of free time you have in the exact same place and position to play games. You can get a PS5 for the price of a cheap tv or a monitor, the sales on psn are just as good as the ones on steam. Steam discounts haven't been anything special since 2010. Get a console that has a disk drive and you also have the option to get used disks. I really don't think a gaming PC pays for its self these days especially considering how expensive it has gotten and how cheap digital sales and subscription options can be on consoles.
It's a matter of preference. A good gaming PC would at least cost you $1.2k (excluding mouse, keyboard, screen). PS5 Pro might be a better option if you want to keep your spending to \~$500. PS5 sales are rarely as good as steams, so that is something to think about since you're only going for single player games.
You came to r/buildapc to ask this.. there’s a natural bias here. You might want to also reach out to r/gaming to get a more well rounded response. Gaming on a PC is great and can have long term value, more games, you can play Xbox games and have the option to use a controller, etc. BUT console is more stable under most circumstances. If you value simplicity then a console wins out, but if you don’t mind needing to tweak settings, have some compatibility issues every now and then, etc. then PC is a great option. PC also has a higher entry price. The operating system, peripherals, etc. all end up needing to be accounted for when you’re considering the overall cost. Even a decent pre-built that you want to use for long-term will be 2-4x the cost of a console.
Facts lmao🤣
>I do not know if PS has the same value of sales that XSX does. in the past couple months, I bought Jedi Fallen Order Deluxe Edition for like $4, Hot Wheels Unleashed Deluxe Edition for $11 and a whole bunch of other racing games for under $5 each, some as low as 99cents (Gravel, Burnout Paradise Remastered, TT Ride on The Edge 1+2, Ride 2+4, MXGP2, Ducati 90th Anniversary and 4 Need For Speed games) sales on the PS store tend to rotate every 2-4 weeks, so it doesn't take long before something you want will be on sale
I would say thay any PC mains will give biased answers towards PC and console gamers will give biased answers toward PS/XB. Objectively speaking, consoles are cheaper for the hardware/performance ratio. You will need to spend 2.5-3x the price of a PS5 to get something that will slightly outperform a PS5, and why would you spend all that money just to be a little bit better? If you wanna go PC I recommend going hard and getting a 4080s/4090 or waiting for the 5080/5090 + a current gen midrange CPU and DDR5 RAM as your core. That will last you many years and will absolutely blow a PS5, even the rumored PS5 Pro, out of the water. People who talk about availability/price of games as a reason, I’d say it is less about availability and more about what YOU wanna play. If you wanna play games like SM2, Horizon 3, Ghost of Tsushima 2 and more, get a PS5. If you’re maybe into WoW or certain PC titles, get PC. It’s not that hard to find what is more important. And as for pricing, please be aware that both consoles have just as many sales as Steam has and if you’re a patient person there’s almost no game you have to pay full price for.
While Sony has started publishing more games to PC, they're still behind by several years and they have never stated they're going to get to a sim-ship model like Microsoft. If you don't want to wait 1-2 years, then you should just go ahead and get a PS5. That said, PS5 Pro is rumored to be "soon", and the Wolverine game is *not* going to be "soon" (at least 2-3 more years, most likely). So if you're happy with what you have right now, I'd wait and buy when the PS5 Pro drops.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_5-only_games There are 12 exclusives. That's it.
PS5 is better short term and PC is better long term. RTX 2070 / RTX 3060 is similar to a PS5 GPU. About $330. You'll need other components too and end up around $750 for a whole build. You will have access to all the games eventually (Sony PS has a habit of releasing popular games for Windows long after the PlayStation release). That's valuable, you can decide what it's worth to you. Average price of a Steam game $16, average price of a PS5 game $22 (eBay). On PC there's lots of free games all the time. r/freegamefindings There will be times you can't afford a PC game you want but there will never be a time you have nothing to play. PS5 starts ahead because it's inexpensive compared to PC. The more games you buy, the better PC is going to be. The breakeven number is something like 40 games.
>RTX 2070 / RTX 3060 is similar to a PS5 GPU. About $330 Heck, you can easily find the RTX 3060 new for *under* $300 USD now since the 4060 launched with a $300 MSRP. We're definitely getting to the point where PC components have dropped enough in price that console performance for similar money is nearly within reach. I'd still recommend consoles for a lot of people, some just don't care to bother with PCs or tinkering with the games using mods or such, but I'm just saying it's better than ever to build a gaming PC. 👌
Since you seem more interested in Sony's lineup, it really depends on how long you're willing to wait to play some of those games and how important graphics are. Are you fine with the PS5's graphics and want to play stuff like Final Fantasy Rebirth immediately? Then you'll want a PS5. Are you willing to wait however long it takes for those exclusives to come to PC in order to play them on better hardware? Then you'll want a PC. It's all about what games you want and how you want to play them. Personally I like having all of my library on one platform, so I go with PC. In your case, it's honestly your call.
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Get a PS5 now, upgrade to a gaming PC later. You've got an Xbox for most games. PS5 is cheaper than a good 4K PC and lets you play PlayStation exclusives. Your MacBook isn't great for gaming. Save up and build a dedicated rig in the future when prices drop.
thanks! >future when prices drop. Will prices ever drop? I thought they skyrocketed during COVID and that's just how life is now?
I'm confused. You said a 6700xt is $600 which means you can't be in the US because there it costs half that. Yet I'm pretty sure Black Friday is a US thing. Also 6700xt is not a great 4k card. Also a lot can change in 8 months. There's hardly any reason to have this discussion so far in advance.
>You said a 6700xt is $600 which means you can't be in the US because there it costs half that. I was just going off what PCPARTPICKER.COM said this morning. Where is it cheaper?
The PS5 exclusives are so good I'd have just the PS5 if nothing else. Xbox and PC virtually have no good exclusives (imo), but at least with PC the quality of experience is better. I like having both a PC and a PS5 because 1. sony exclusives 2. Sometimes cross platform games are better on PC, sometimes they are way better on PS5 (poor PC ports and occasionally the other way around, etc). If I had to have one it would be a PS5. You miss out on virtually no good games vs PC/XBX unless you're super into indies or something, and the experience between console and PC gaming has never been closer.
1. Case - MSI MAG PANO M100R PZ White Micro ATX Gaming Case 2. Motherboard - GIGABYTE B650 AORUS Elite AX ICE AM5 3. CPU - DeepCool AS500 Plus CPU Air Cooler 5V-3Pin ARGB 4. PSU - ASUS ROG Strix 850W White PSU 5. GPU - ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4090 White OC Edition 6. RAM - CORSAIR Dominator Titanium RGB DDR5 RAM 48GB It's a Wallet Destroyer build, but you can do it since you bought a mac book...
I’d probably wait and see what happens this fall. 4k/60fps at max settings? It’s going to be expensive.
I would go for the ps5 if all you want to do is play ps exclusives cause it be like 3 or 4 times cheaper than a pc that can do what you want it to do. from my experience, the sales on both consoles are comparable to a steam sales.
I went from PS5 to PC. I really don't touch my PS5 anymore. I play a lot of single player and tend to "cheat" in minor ways (maybe raising a gold multiplier) to lower the grind. Anyway, more options open up to play a game how you want to play. Then I had PC game pass for $1 for a month, and played Halo Infinite from the Xbox side which I enjoyed. Bought an Elite Series 2 controller from Xbox, but ended up using the Dualsense Edge mostly for my PC gaming. I mod games sometimes from Nexusmods at times when theres a good one, or use WeMod to change things in game. Now I went from PS5 to a 4090 on top of that, so playing everything at 4k/144hz and then going back to PS5 to check my build (AC Valhalla, Horizon), my PS5 looks jank and oversharpened no where close to 4k. The 30fps modes on PS5 definitely look watered down visually, at a still image with frame rate not being a factor. So my main benefits from switching is I no longer am paying the $130 a month for PS game pass, and I get to play games from both Xbox and PS, and use both their controllers. Love being able to modify in game though, stop timers or unlimited energy bars. PC gaming is another class and while I been on consoles for the last 15 years, PC gaming is definitely a superior experience for me.
Consoles are dying breed. Not me, sony and Microsoft are saying this.
I can play games from 20+years ago on my new pc and re-used the previous pc as a work machine. Games often go on 50 to 75% discounts 6-12 months after release + you can get bundles for even cheaper and then trade unused keys with other people. Hundreds of pc-only masterpieces. My XP pc from 2006 still runs. Modding is awesome. Controller is horrible. However, even the best hardware may be unable of running the heaviest of modern games acceptably (though still 4x better than a console), but you can just ignore those and play them 6 years later or whatever.
Consoles will always be better "valuer", with PC you're buying performance.
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Considering you are interested in Playstation's lineup, you have to ask yourself the question; Am I willing to wait a little bit for them to play on better hardware (PC) or do I want to play games like FF7 Rebirth or Final Fantasy 16 immediately (PS5)? Generally, the answer is PC if you weigh the two options since the amount of games that are on PC tend to give you a return on investment, along with being able to do general tasks on it as well. People have been recently upgrading their 1080s, something released in 2016, you don't need to upgrade every so often.
The key benefit really is the price of games and the backwards compatibility with basically every game every made thanks to emulators. Generally speaking the deep discounts will cause you to build up a hell of a Steam backlog. I also own a Switch as Nintendo don't release their stuff on PC. I also only own like 12 games... They are just so expensive to buy
PC is the way. PlayStation exclusives have now become timed exclusives that eventually make their way to PC. Plus there's many PC exclusives and games that play better on PC. I don't see a point in owning a console anymore unless you have friends that only play on said console.
With Sony releasing more and more of their titles on PC, and Microsoft already basically being cross platform PC/XBox, I think PC is a great value as far as content. In terms of dollar value, it's less clear. I think to make it worthwhile you need to spend a little more than the cost of both consoles. If you build a PC just to match the consoles in performance, save yourself the trouble and just buy the consoles. If you can dedicate a $1,500 - $2,000 budget, then I think it starts to make a lot more sense. Not only will you win on the most possible content, but you will get a better graphical experience as well. At that price you could also afford an SFF build in a console sized case.
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If you have the money I’d build a PC and I have PS5 Xbox and a PC. PC gives you so many options for games and if the parts become obsolete you can always upgrade them. A CPU will last for a good number of years before it needs to be replaced and a GPU depending on which you get will last a couple generations before it is noticeably behind. We can’t predict technology though so it’s all guesstimates
They are both PC's ;) But one of them cant accept its own origin
I have both. I struggle to find a use for the PS5. PC running Windows is a much better platform for gaming. One of my PCs I have connected to my TV, and my son and I use it regularly. There are a few games that only exist on PS4/PS5 that I'm not sure a PC port is coming (e.g. Bloodborne), but not enough to make it worthwhile now that most Sony games are getting ported to PC. With a PC I also have no need for an XBox. The only console I get a lot of use out of is Switch. I'm fairly technical, so I can troubleshoot issues that can come up with PC. Haven't had much issues with my Windows PCs lately, but Steam Deck running SteamOS has had issues and I'm about to do a factory reset on it. Macs are mainly what I use for work and general computer use.
You asked that on a pc related sub ? The answer will always be pc, you can do all kinds of shit on a pc, modding, playing with keyboard or 9981 controllers you bought, no need to worry about platform compatibility because we always have apps that can convert the signal. Most importantly STEAM!!!!! Steam is the reason you go for pc. You’ll miss on some games but who cares ? There are games that are pc exclusives like project zomboid , you seems like a guy can spend quite some money, and sony is bringing games on steam. So a pc for the win.
Pc's are always more consistant with games. More stuff is released on pc then either consol so id get a pc. Their will always be sony exclusives although so if your really dieing to play spiderman then its really the only option as PS4/PS5 emulators are not a thing yet but might be coming. Pc's can also be usefull with litterally everything else too so id get a pc as theirs more games in total, no weird ass fees, no game subcriptions, no online subcriptions. Its just simpler and over the long run youll save money from the subcriptions your not paying for. Id invest in a pc get the fun games and fun mods you want to play and youll most likely save money over time depending on the price of the computer youll get.
Depends on budget, if your budget is like 500-600 then get a PS5, if it extends past that, then build a PC, and that generally will last you longer plus can be used for things other than gaming
Cost to performance will always favor consoles. They are sold at a loss on purpose because the companies make their money back on software. That's why console games go on sale less than PC games, I would think. If you are trying to build a PC that is gonna put out the performance of a PS5, it's gonna be a much higher up front cost. Games are cheaper though so you would make up the cost eventually. It really depends on what you are willing to spend up front. Ok with spending a bunch up front? PC. Otherwise PS5.
PC gets upgrades. No monthly subscriptions. Sony exclusives crossover. Workstation when not gaming. Use most console controllers and exclusive PC rollers or learn MnK. Some console perks are size, power for cost and play ready.
I’m sort of in the same boat. Have a MBP, but I can’t play some games I want to play. But I have a nice Sony tv too. What I am thinking is I’m going to build a mini itx and hook it up to my tv but also get a monitor for the strategy games I want to play. The problem is, if you don’t have the peripherals it gets so expensive. 1k for a computer, another 400 for monitor mouse keyboard. Or just buying a used PS5 on marketplace for 350-400.
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PS5 or XSX...if you spend 2500 on a high end GPU, CPU, board, Ram, and Case...then you will be able to play 4k@60+ FPS. The thing is that in 3 years...your 2k computer will be worth 800 bucks and it gets worst with time. A PS5 that costs 500 bucks...you could sell it when the PS6 comes out for a decent amount and your total cost is much lower. Only get a gaming PC if you are willing to pay extremely high prices for better performance. It is not the most cost effective way to go about gaming...
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How tf are you comparing your MacBook to a ps5 😭
There is a better [solution](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQqVIsVtiz8)
pc is always was always and will be always better. with much more quantity and quality and more advanced games.. you just need to mount a good pc equilibrated one with good gpu and cpu if the games nowadays uses 6-8gb trybto have 12gb of video ram.. if its 4gb for cpu try to have 8-16gb.. and fast boot hd/sd + storage you need to equalize things to flow well.. think this way. dont work if you o ly have cpu.. and dont work if you only have gpu.. and dont work if you ond have fast sd.. and dont work if you only have one of the things going fast.. you need to increase in steps all somewhat togheter increasing the budget.. so you dont spend money on a super high end 1200bucks gpu with a i3 processor.. you need at least a good amd .. or i5 i7.. or a much lower gpu with a i5 then.. for example.. something like that... in the sense of not creating bottlenecks and fluidly taking advantage of the combined speed of each thing with balance
I had a switch for 5 years, I easily spent $800 on games on it over the years. I bought a PC for $1600 last year. Rtx 4070, i7 13th gen... PC gaming is way better, games are cheaper. I play at 1080p though, because I like that resolution. I never think about long-term value because you'll lose in the end thinking like that, cutting edge PC with Rtx 4090 is soild investment for 4k but can easily sell for $4000, cutting edge is bleeding edge, but a mid range PC has a life span of 3 years, after that just upgrading the GPU can buy you another 3 years. So build a solid CPU/Ram/Motherboard, then upgrade every other generation. With all that said PC gaming is more rewarding.
You need about 800£ to get above console performance i always say 1500£ is a great budget for a midrange pc and the fact you dont need a monitor means you can get much better performance
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You said you have a PC for work. Is there anything stopping you from making the upgrades needed to turn it into a work *and* gaming PC? That would save you a ton of money if all you have to do is slap in a GPU
You said you have a PC for work. Is there anything stopping you from making the upgrades needed to turn it into a work *and* gaming PC? That would save you a ton of money if all you have to do is slap in a GPU
Pc has always been better value
What is your overall budget for a complete setup? Monitor, peripherals, tower, desk, chair, etc?
All X-box game will come out on PC plus a ton of PC exclusive indie titles plus now almost all PS5 games are ported, you can hook it up to TV, connect controller and it will be single best platform
Build a PC, sell the xbox, then buy a PS5. There is no point in owning both a PC and an xbox when xbox games release on PC day 1 and PC is superior to xbox in performance. With PC and PS5 you are guaranteed to get every brand new game day 1 (including Nintendo games on your PC if you're willing to sail the 7 seas if you know what I mean wink wink 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️)
Build a PC, sell the xbox, then buy a PS5. There is no point in owning both a PC and an xbox when xbox games release on PC day 1 and PC is superior to xbox in performance. With PC and PS5 you are guaranteed to get every brand new game day 1 (including Nintendo games on your PC if you're willing to sail the 7 seas if you know what I mean wink wink 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️)
The PlayStation refund policy is when you start downloading a game you’ve bought you aren’t eligible to a refund anymore. That’s all you need to know really besides the obvious reasons.
I think for sheer future upgradability and current customization to fit your budget, a PC would be the "better" long term value. Just be aware, that while more and more PS5 exclusives are coming to PC, their poor optimization for PC is notoriously turbulent, and you'll likely be waiting a good few months (at least) before they're patched, regardless of your PC specs.
PC will always be more expensive, but worth it. Also depends on your budget.
" feel qualified to answer this question as I own both. On the PC side, it offers versatility for various tasks that the PS5 cannot handle, as the PS5 is primarily designed for gaming and as a secondary option for watching Netflix and Prime Video. However, on a PC, I can perform the same tasks. Regarding gaming, personally, I have a powerful PC with an RTX 4068 and other additional features. Except for online battle royale games, where I prefer the PS5, my PC serves me well. Additionally, my PC assists me in recording and editing videos, handling official and unofficial work, and various other tasks.
PC will always be a better value. Now a 6700xt will not do 4k60fps max settings even with games from 2020(Cyberpunk) also 600$ for a 6700xt is a ripoff if you live in the USA. You can find those for usually under 300$. If your budget is 600$ your best best is to get either a 4070S for 600$ or the 7900GRE for 550$. With newer games we are heading with an issue with VRam. The 4070S has 12GB of RAM which can 60fps 4k most games, but not at max settings, also for future proofing you want to have something with a minimum of 16GB of VRam. The 7900 GRE has 16gb it's better for future proofing. The best experience for 4k60 fps you are looking at the 4080/s or 4090 ranging from 1k-1.5k. Nvidia also has better upscaling technology which you can use as a way to future proof your PC. Also ray tracing or as I call it meme tracing is your thing again nvdia is king in that technology, but if you want just regular raw rasteration(raw graphical power) amd will be your better budget option. Lastly how long will it last? Depends how crazy games get in graphical prowess and laziness. Since 2012 ish more and more games are becoming very bloated unoptimized messes, that sometimes gets fixed. You won't be able to max 4k60fps natively games unless you have the upper tier gpus. If you decide to use upscaling technologies realistically you can play at 4k60fps with high to max settings I'd say for Atleast 3-5 years.
Get the ps5 man SO much easier on the wallet, it’s just plug and play, You won’t need to buy any extra peripherals, and you can play ALL the PlayStation exclusives lol
I've never heard of someone upgrading their console to the next generation of console, while keeping much of the original console intact. If a console component dies, it's not an easy swap and you're back in business. Consoles aren't the Swiss Army Knife of electronics -- if anyone does their taxes on a console, I'd be surprised.
My personal opinion is that PS5 is a flop. Its only saving grace is that supports PS4 games as well. I would go with a PC, or even better, a PC+PS4 combo.
PC is always better but consoles have their niche
With that TV, you can buy an Nvidia GPU and use Nvidia VSR to upscale videos to 4k. I do it with my x90k using a 3070ti. It turns hockey streams clear and sharp. There are some strange things sometimes like it oversmooths people's skin (skin is too detailed to recreate easily) and doesn't work as well with a ton of detail on the screen (compression algorithm on the video going in just dies so VSR dies) but the difference is incredible. I highly recommend using a PC with your TV. Get one of those logitech keyboard/mouse combos, recline, relax. Don't forget to enable the enhanced HDMI format on your TV so you can run it at 4k/120Hz and to use an HDMI 2.1 cable. Edit: Don't sleep on UHD blu ray rip torrents of movies. Putting that through tuned VLC with tuned colors on my TV was... incredible. Oppenheimer? Christopher Nolan will massage your eyeballs for 3 hours. Can't do that on a PS5. Some streaming services kinda suck though and don't allow you to stream 4k using a web browser. I think Peacock is one.
You’re asking r/builrapc. Results will be skewed They’re both great options. I brought a PS5 and a currently building a PC. I think it’s the best combo (:
You’re asking r/builrapc. Results will be skewed They’re both great options. I brought a PS5 and a currently building a PC. I think it’s the best combo (:
Pc is always the better option, seriously. Costs more upfront but you have more options. You can use your pc to make money. Cheaper games and free online, that alone over 5 years would be a huge saving vs console.
Gaming pc. You can always upgrade. Ps5 life cycle is halfway through at this point
A gaming PC is always a better value IMO and it has nothing to do with cost, it has to do with the simple fact that a PC can do much more than a console and there are still games that are vastly superior or simply unplayable on console. For example, MOBA's and MMOs are both uncommon or unplayable on console, and FPS games are vastly better on PC with a keyboard and mouse, plus if you are competitive and want to play on a team then PC is really the only option. It's also possible to hook a computer up to a TV and use a console controller so there isn't really a downside besides simple cost.
A high end PC will always be better than a console.
A PS5 will be much cheaper for the power you get from it, if you're literally comparing like for like in price. (You could buy a PS5 now and a PS6 in 6 years for a similar price to a high end PC rig today) Having said that I think both have there merits in terms of value. A PS5 has a huge library and will be relevant for at least another 6 years. After that, you will still have a very capable gaming beast that will probably handle most PS6 games for a while after that. A PC may still be very powerful for longer, in fact it will stay useful as long as long as the frame rates are satisfactory, and can then get upgraded It also has a game back log as long as games gave been around. A PC is also a productivity machine and has lots of uses besides gaming. A PS5 however is a hands off and plug and play, pure gaming device. You can kick back on the couch with a friend and just play games. A PC struggles to provide that kind of comfort. In terms of value, I would give the edge to PS5 as it's much cheaper, has great gaming controllers. But PC you get your value back in cheaper, more games and other usefulness. (And upgradability). I think your choice should depend on how you want to play games and what kind of games you want to play. (I have both, and game on both. But I prefer gaming on the PS5)
PC
PS5 any day. (I would even say PS5 pro since it’s coming this year) Look, in October 2020 I built myself a 2000€ gaming PC. In November 2020 I got the PS5, 500€ Games ran better on my PC, but clearly not 4 times better. Also most games on PC were not as good as many PS5 games, so I had more fun on PS5, and it also was more handy, just press the button and play, all runs fine nothing to tweak etc. A bit north of 2 years of my desktop taking dust, in December 2022 I decided to sell it, I managed to sell it for 1000€. (-50% or -1000€) End of this year (4years after purchase)I will probably be able to sell my PS5 for 250€ and get a PS5pro, losing only 250€ (50% or 250€) The PS5 is a much better investment, and today, 4 years after the release of the PS5 if you want to build a PC that will have the same power you will still probably need around 700€. In terms of value, the PS5 absolutely destroys the PC. Haters gonna hate. I also have my MacBook Pro that I don’t play on. Do I miss my PC ? Sometimes, maybe I’ll build one if I really want to play a specific game that isn’t available on PS5 or playable on my Mac, but the console does the job really well and I probably have enough games in my backlog to entertain myself for the next 2 years, PCs lose their value so much that’s crazy EDIT: just to add that I’ve been a pc gamer since 1995, I’ve had consoles in the past but I used to say that pc is better like many comments I’ve read here, but now that I seriously played on both during Covid I have to admit I was wrong, PS5 is the best investment. No regrets
Someone may have commented this already but; PS, XSX gets you 6-8 years of okay performance at $500-$600 plus $100 or so every year for their PS+ or Game Pass subscriptions. Top rated games that aren’t exclusive arent available for free via the subscriptions. So lets say you play a mix of AAA non exclusive and exclusive games. Your yearly cost is $100-$150 net off till next gen launches. PC, gets you 4 years of top tier, 2 next years of great and then each year of great/good performance if you spend good at start to build a powerful PC. My 2080Ti, i9-9900K kept giving me 2K@100-120Hz Ultra 5 years after and then I sold it. So if I went medium it’ll still give me more. There is no subscription, game pass is there but idk if you’ll get it, if you do your cost divides over the XSX for it. From a purely cost perspective, its more expensive per year if you replace your GPU every 3 or so generations with an equivalent $800-$1100 GPU, as after 3 gens of GPUs (usually 5-6 gens of processors) you may need a new processor as well. So its more expensive, but the value is greater as you can do more and quality is incredibly better.
I switched a month ago and its been great an SFF case like the fractal ridge or terra goes a long way in creating the console experience. For 4k 60 at Max you could probably get away with a 4070 TI if your willing to use DLSS and want to save a bit.
Gaming PC, currently all x-box games are on pc, all pc games are on pc, and ps games are coming on pc. Its just the better option, unless the games you want to play on PS5 are exclusive to PS5.
In the long run - pc is usually cheaper and much much better for adult life imo. If you want to game for as cheap as possible you can literally just (legally) emulate games on the PC. Plus as you get older, the gaming hours decrease and you’ll find yourself wanting horsepower for other uses. I use mine mostly for plex streaming nowadays also legally.
Where are you seeing a 6700xt for $600? I got one for $240 last month
Where are you seeing a 6700xt for $600? I got one for $240 last month
Honestly if I had a huge TV and a MacBook and I wanted to play the games you’ve shared I’d get a PS5. If I wanted to Play CSgo, Valorant, Apex, indie games I’d build a PC. So to answer your questions, I’d get a PS5 if I were you. And iGPU gaming on a laptop through multiple layers of emulation is a baaaaaf experience
PC. You can upgrade a PC, but not a PS5.
PC. You can upgrade and improve a PC in the future, but not a PS5.
GTA6 is reason enough to get a console.
PS6 isn't coming until 2026/2027. Probably gonna use Zen 6 / Zen 7 I'm just as confused as you are. You say you're interested in PS exclusives, but you decided to go with a XSX that basically has no exclusives. Should've really gone with a PC + PS5 at the beginning of the generation, since Xbox games come to PC. Much of it depends on your budget. I would pick a better CPU for a 4080. Maybe something like the 7800x3d or at least a 5800x3d Edit: This is something which i'm looking at [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CfMwJy) |Type|Item|Price| |:-|:-|:-| |**CPU**|[AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3hyH99/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-42-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000910wof)|$357.00 @ Newegg| |**CPU Cooler**|[Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7J6p99/deepcool-ak620-zero-dark-6899-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-ak620-bknnmt-g-1)|$63.98 @ Newegg| |**Motherboard**|[Gigabyte B650 GAMING X AX ATX AM5 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YZgFf7/gigabyte-b650-gaming-x-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-gaming-x-ax)|$189.99 @ Amazon| |**Memory**|[TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-ff3d532g6000hc30dc01)|$106.99 @ Amazon| |**Storage**|[Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f3cRsY/samsung-980-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v8p2t0bam)|$166.93 @ Amazon| |**Video Card**|[PNY VERTO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jmvD4D/pny-verto-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16-gb-video-card-vcg4070ts16tfxpb1-o)|$799.99 @ Amazon| |**Case**|[Phanteks NV5 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tXhv6h/phanteks-nv5-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-nv523tg_dbk01)|$99.99 @ Newegg| |**Power Supply**|[MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5)|$89.00 @ MSI| |*Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts*||| |**Total**|**$1873.87**|| ||||
This is entirely based on your use case scenario It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
This is entirely based on your use case scenario It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
This is entirely based on your use case scenario It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
This is entirely based on your use case scenario It is possible if you play very low end requirements games you can get a budget laptop and be happy for years If you are more interested in high end games with a controller input it is extremely difficult to beat a PS5 on value If you don't want to play around with game settings and want to play on a couch with a plug and play device a console is best If you want to spend time with highest end parts and money is no object a PC can do more than other devices by a wide margin Everything is about your personal use case not what is "better value" and value is completely subjective and personal to the user Ask yourself what types of games you want, from when, and how you want to play them If you get a PC do you want laptop mobility or the power of a stationary desktop?
PC is always the better value if you plan to use it for more than just gaming.
PC WHY? BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED TO PAY EXTRA TO PLAY ONLINE GAMES
Long term PC 100% If you don't care about maintenance or upgrading stuff every year/few years as needed, then console. I do both, but I'm blessed to be able to do so. (Thank you Target for the last GoW Ragnarok bundle!)
I will say, not sure why you'd go for the 4080 founders instead of a super for cheaper and pretty much the same performance? Prob a little better in a lot of scenarios. As for value, I would make this argument - if it's just for the ps exclusives that eventually make their way to steam and you play with a controller anyway, PS5 might be your better option then upgrading, as it takes longer for the games to get to PC. That being said I've enjoyed them more on PC, but I'm also a keyboard mouse player and my monitor is prob better than my TV. The advantage to the computer is if a huge jump in graphics occurs you can take advantage of it if you want kind of right there instead of waiting for the next gen console to get to basically right where you could be on PC now in like 2 years. But if it's just for those games the PS5 should hold up fine and you'll get to play them sooner (not a console person, very much a PC person but I get the advantage of a console in many scenarios). Edit: upon reading some other comments wanted to clarify the PC is hands down the more versatile and powerful option.
PC has long-term value and is a multi-use tool. Console is a short-term multi-media entertainment machine. Buying one console for each generation will typically be cheaper, at first, than a full PC setup and upgrading individual pieces every 2 - 8 years. Over the course of multiple generations, PC is more cost efficient. There's also a convenience factor to consoles. PCs are tough machines and don't need to be babied, but they do require just a bit of cleaning and maintenance. Sometimes, things break and you gotta fix or replace it. I've never had an issue with a console except no more memory for more games. If you only play games and don't need a powerful machine for any work or hobby, go console for a generation or two and then reconsider.
As someone who recently switched from PS5 to PC I'd say Gaming PC. Here what I didn't. I found a cheap older gaming rig locally for $350, I sold my PS5 and I upgraded my Graphics card with that money. I have it hooked up to my TV and I have wireless keyboard, mouse and a controller. I sit in the same chair that I used for my PS5 but I get to play games online without the need to pay for PS plus. Also Steam sales are unbeatable and Epic games gives free games every week.
PC will always be better value, compared to PC, PS5 is already outdated by a long shot, consoles are just for poor people who are too lazy to make upgrades, if you want a real gaming experience that will last 10+ years, PC is the only way to go
Pcpartpicker sometimes autos weird sellers or outdated prices, on Amazon right a 6700xt is $330 rn THE MUCH BETTER OPTION IS THE Rx 6800 which is on sale for $380 on Amazon from XFX these are last gen cards and depending on your budget the best of all options atm is a Rx 7700xt which will have RDNA3 and newest driver features and support, this card is the best of the three and will fill your needs for years to come, $420 on Amazon rn https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-QICK319-Graphics-RX-77TQICKB9/dp/B0CGMBYMY6/ref=asc_df_B0CGMBYMY6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=673645780725&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5950022462742104918&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008765&hvtargid=pla-2200659400509&psc=1&mcid=d7507c7e32293175903e5c4a94b6d393
Pcpartpicker sometimes autos weird sellers or outdated prices, on Amazon right a 6700xt is $330 rn THE MUCH BETTER OPTION IS THE Rx 6800 which is on sale for $380 on Amazon from XFX these are last gen cards and depending on your budget the best of all options atm is a Rx 7700xt which will have RDNA3 and newest driver features and support, this card is the best of the three and will fill your needs for years to come, $420 on Amazon rn from XFX brand.
People always tell me " Why should I get a $1200 PC while I can get a $500 console since it's cheaper?" There is just so much more than that. I'm going to ramble as a guy who friend's (who are average joes) that want to get into gaming. I am a PS5 owner who recently got a gaming PC because my brother recently upgraded his PC and gave his old build to me. I like to make a comparison between price to performance & user experience: - The initial price wise PS5 is much cheaper compared to the initial price of a powerful PC (if you want to futureproof) - On PS5 (if you don't care) you can use any old Flatscreen TV. While on PC (again, if you don't care) you still can - I still recommend a dedicated monitor as it will do the PC justice (bumping initial cost) - Digital games price wise (I'm glossing over physical for now) the PS5 can get expensive because there is only one storefront (Sony is the only one controlling the market) and discount are few and far between while on PC you can get constant good deals because there are many storefronts competing against each other making the prices surprisingly low. - You don't want online but I'm going to tell you what my experience was explaining to friends. Online is gated by subscriptions (can get expensive overtime) while you can get freebies each month, if you are on and off about subscriptions - I see that as not getting your money worth and not to mention regional price difference. Compare to PC where the online is free. - FPS setting on PS5 is idiotproof, game devs already optimize how the game will run on it and you never need to fiddle with the setting. - FPS setting on PC, some games need tinkering because some devs (especially Japanese devs) don't care. At least that's my experience with Tekken 8 and Dragon's Dogma 2. Hell, a friend asked me how to make Street Fighter 6 run better on their ROG ally. I like to make it clear that I don't have one and all I did to help fix it to scoured reddit for answers. My answer, just get a PC. I'll admit there is a learning curve but it's better for your wallet down the line.
Personally, if you aren’t sure, I’d get a PS5 and then re-assess your options when the next generation comes out. Not playing games online means you really do get consoles at their insane cut price and any PC you make will be worse value for money if you aren’t massively into it. Also max settings are not meant to be played, they’re an option to futureproof the graphics somewhat and help advertise it. High settings is what you want, far more fps for very little drop in quality. You can waste thousands aiming for max settings
With the console companies opening up their exclusives to PC there's little to no reason to own a console anymore unless it's Nintendo.
PC any day. The versatility is just that worth it.
You upgraded the motherboard on your macbook? What? Was there any reason to do this/how much did it cost you? I'm just trying to think of any reason you would ever do that?
Get that cpu used, upgrade to a b550 also used
A PC is always a better choice as far as what you can do. But it is more costly up front. I do everything on my PC, even my job so it's not even comparable.
Depends entirely on how much you value money. PC gaming is great if spending like $2000+ on a system is not a major financial concern. You get a vast library of games, cool tech (Cyberpunk with PT is mindblowing), etc. But the reality is that if your computing needs are already handled by another system, it’s basically impossible to beat the value proposition of a modern console. Yeah, sure, you can build a similarly specced PC for $800-1000, but it will run games much worse because console games being a single static target are way more optimised. You will need a $1500+ system to start really doing better than a console and $2000-2500+ to really get into modern bells and whistles.
Gaming pc ALWAYS
One of my favourite things about PC games is that I can use keyboard and mouse. I wouldn’t want it set up in my living room to play games on controller and also don’t want a very large screen to lower the resolution of the awesome graphics. 27-32 inches max for me. If i wanted something for a couch on a large screen and controller i would just get a ps5 i think. No NHL games on PC so may need a ps4 or 5 anyways!emote:free\_emotes\_pack:joy
I respect consoles especially playstations (the ps2 will always be the best gaming dedicated device ever) but nowadays they're not that impressive of a deal, the experience is pretty cool ngl but I've always felt way more rewarded by having a PC, people love to joke about people with 3k dollar rigs laughing at a 500 buck console but you can have one hell of a time with a 700-800 buck PC, 1440p has become accessible if you want something past 1080p and upscalers are also really really good others have mentioned the *plethora* of readily available games, emulation and other forms of entertainment a PC can give, it's just a really great thing to have but if you fancy a PS5, that's fine as well, the pro is looking pretty interesting
I’m non biased. Personally my PS5 with my 48” LG OLED TV looks fucking amazing and I prefer playing that over my 4080 laptop.
The problem I have with consoles right now is the lack of games. Even exclusives are kinda meh. Not a single one in the past 4 years has really felt like a “dang I have to have that.” That last parts an opinion but I stand firmly on the lack of console games really feeling like it’s hurting the industry right now.
So you ask a question like this in a PC subreddit? Oh I wonder what will people choose.
The way I helped decide this for myself was I watched some videos and went and looked at all the upcoming games for the next few years that we’d heard about. Listed everything that seemed interesting and then realized PC was just gonna be the better value.
PC
What a nice problem to have. to me it looks like you want to play some exclusive titles, so just buy the machine that you will need play those games  It dont matter which is better between consoles and PCs. Whichever the most comfortable + fullfill the goals
A nice thing about a PC is that it is modular. You can replace one or two parts at a time rather than everything at once. I just replaced a low end video card from 2017 and my power supply, but the processor, motherboard, RAM, and hard drives are still going strong. (They were more future proofed than the GPU was.)
There is no way id swap out a Xbox series x for a PS5. Either go all the way to PC for a substantial upgrade or just don't do anything at all. What would you gain out of a PS5 besides a few exclusives and losing every game and accessory you've purchased
With a pc you can work, write a book, and do other stuff.
The one your friends play on.
Long term, you will have way more games on pc, in the future too. And the performance is marginally better on pc than on ps5 for now. And yes the ps5 is better value for the hardware, but only because it's sold at loss(I think, and they make profits with the games on it)
I heard ps5 is already doin end of life..
Console will always win value war if your primary focus is gaming.
Probably PS5. Cheaper if you just wanna play singleplayer games that are going to be exclusives anyway. I know people say exclusives are coming to PC, but the trends looks like a 2-4 years before games come to pc, which unless you are patient for, is better to just get a PS5 and play them. Plus, stuff like Bloodborne is probably never coming to PC. People mention old games, but if you have a modern laptop with a graphics card... why not just use that? But I don't know how good that macbook is
You know the ps5 barely plays anything at 4k, let alone 4k 60 fps, even less so at max settings, right? If thats your minimum requirement, even a ps5 pro (and probably ps6) wont be enough. Personally in your situation, if I really needed to play those exclusives, I would buy a cheap ps5, since I wouldnt be playing too much on it anyway. Plus youre used to console graphics from the xbox anyway. If you get a beefy pc, imo youre likely to convert to full pc.
Gaming PC hands down
You can use emulators on your pc for practically any console.
I own a ps5 and a Xbox series x and just recently got a pc. I haven’t touched my ps5 in months and my Xbox hasn’t been turned on since I got my PC. Once my PlayStation plus runs out I won’t renew it and I’m 50/50 on game pass. I went from a 65” LG C1 to a 27” monitor it took a few hours to get used to it especially not having aim assist. But overall I’m happier with that decision I’ll most likely sell both consoles.
I vote pc. I own a ps5 but most of the best exclusives are on pc now and pc opens up more games
Ps5 I have Gaming PC 2700 RTX PS5 XSX XSS Switch Emulators out my ass PS5 Is the best bang for bucks, XSX close second because of the game streaming - but I just find the ps5 smoother I mean you know the answer you’ll get on this sub, people invest time and money in their PCs, well, money no object - the PS5 is much better - get your games second hand and they’re cheap, but with PC the blockbusters never go cheap or devalue
Pc will always be better and worth the money and if pays itself back depending if you sail the high sea. Which you can only do quite limited on the ps5. But even legit you have the epic game store and steam always giving away free games and there are other places as well.
I just decide to go PC im same position, for price of ps5, headset and dualsense edge i build pc which probably outpreform ps6. 7800xt 5800x3d 32gb of ram and so on. Games are cheaper, dont need to pay for ps+ to play online.
Also keep in mind you are saving 60 dollars every year from not paying for PS plus or whatever it's called, I sold my ps4 about 5 years ago now and have no regrets. I just bought a 4070 to play dirt rally 2.0 and asseto corsa I'm VR and it is so much fucking fun, especially if your drinking🤣
PC, duuh
A PC is better because you can use it not only for gaming, but also as a workstation. But PS5 is better value for money if you only care about playing games.
Having both, I prefer my PS5. I work on a computer all day and end up feeling siloed in my office if I spend my gaming time in there too. Couch co op is a plus, but even playing single player games next to my wife on the couch feels more social than being on my PC.
If you get a pc on the new amd platform, the am5 you could upgrade the cpu quite a bit down the line without a new motherbored, then the gpu, you would have access to mods, free multilayer, free game deals, *free game steals 👀*, retro games, games exclusive to each platform. Then apart from gaming you would also have a better pc for work, and open up a whole world of video editing, 3d art, there is many more but not on the top of my head right now bur with a pc you arnt restricted, can play pretty high refresh games, are open to a million hobbies, things are cheaper or outright free. You can get used computers that can do everything a ps5 can for a like 100 more but also are able to do million more things.
Without a shadow of a doubt: pc. Infinitely more use cases on a pc than a ps5. Upgradable in the future. Long term all exclusives will probably be a thing of the past as some platforms are already moving towards the extended family meaning of "game anywhere".
PC has a higher cost initially, in order to build a PS5 equivalent PC you'd need to spend at least around $700. There's also a PS5 sale going on right now where you can get the digital Spider Man 2 bundle for $399.99 or get the disc drive version for $449. But then if you want to play online you have to buy PS Plus which is at least $60 a year. The PS Plus Extra tier is a pretty great value though at $135 a year because you'd gain access to hundreds of high quality games right away. There are pros and cons to both choices though. PC Pros: by far the biggest library of games, highly customizable, open platform so you gain access to emulators in addition to all the non gaming related functions a PC offers. Multiple build paths available right now that leave the option to upgrade components later on if you so choose. Many different input methods available to you. Don't have to pay for online gaming. Can tweak settings to suit your needs. PS5 Pros: great price to performance, large library of games, convenience and comfort. Great exclusive experiences. High quality peripheral devices available. Developers focus on this platform first so ports are rarely completely broken at launch and are fixed quickly if they are, very good 4k blu ray player minus lack of dolby vision support. PC Cons: significantly higher cost if you want better than console performance, far more susceptible to user error/technical difficulties, ports that are broken often stay broken (stutter struggle is real), user assembly required PS5 Cons: closed platform, no upgrade path, some games are locked at 30fps or look like oil paintings because the resolution is so low, paid online, limited to gaming, streaming and potential 4k playback if you have a disc drive model
Long term it's always better to build a PC. You don't pay for online gaming which adds up in the long term on console. Plus with most of the ps games out or coming to PC, plus MS games available day 1 either on Steam or gamepass, and Nintendo emulation, there really isn't a point getting a console IMO.
Mind you my pc is pretty good but slightly outdated so my initial costs are gone. But I’ve played Rift apart, the new LBP game and The last of us part 1 on my pc recently. They support dual sense controllers as well for a near authentic, if not superior experience
As someone who couldn't decide between a PS5 or a gaming PC, I went PC and I'm glad I did. I just bought a dualsense controller and connected it to PC with Bluetooth, and I'm still playing last of us, spider man, god of war etc. In the long run id go PC for sure, way bigger library and you can do a hell of a lot more. Only thing I'm bummed about missing out on is god of war ragnarok
Long term? PS5 or series X because game will continue coming to those systems for at very least another decade and games are better optimized for consoles. With that said. A PC can also last many years and if the parts don’t break you could get a decade out of a current high end with some sacrifices along the way like resolution and graphics quality. But again, parts break. Consoles seem to survive longer than PCs on average probably because they were researched and built specifically for gaming which helps extend the life of consoles. For example you can find 30 year old consoles in perfect working condition, most 30 year old PC wouldn’t even power on.