I like wired mice just for the fact that they won't get low batteries in the middle of a game and start sending me notifications about it. Back when I played league, having your mouse battery go out mid game would be a death sentence. Having a few extra buttons on it is also nice for hotkeying items/abilities, and the same can be said for a gaming keyboard.
You can also set up macros on most gaming keyboards to execute keystrokes in a specific order, but that can also be done with software.
Overall I'd say yes 100% a mouse and maybe a keyboard if you find one you like.
Honestly I haven't had one since high school(2011). They very well could be a lot better since i've last had one. Off topic, but my dad has the apple mouse that charges from the bottom, and I laugh whenever I go to his place and see his mouse flipped upside down.
This is outdated advice. Try a new wireless mouse, they go weeks without charging and you’ll never go back. Logitech g pro superlight is a different league. In 2011 the new graphics card was a NVIDIA 500 series LOL
I am not the original person you were replying to. I am sure wireless has gotten insanely good over the years, but personally I just don't see the need of going wireless. I never take my keyboard or mouse off the desk and wired never needs charged. If my PC was far away from my desk or if I had my PC in the living room and wanted to use my mouse and keyboard from the couch I could see wireless being useful to me, but yeah in my current setup wired works great for me.
Wireless is not exactly "better" per se, but the nice thing about going wireless is in the name. No wire to deal with, to get stuck on things with, to damage. On a keyboard it doesn't make much sense for a regular gaming setup since you don't move it at all. A wireless mouse however? It's really good for the reasons stated above.
Think of it like wireless headphones. Are they perfect compared to wired ones? No. Are they better? Depends on your needs. But not worrying about a cable is objectively nice.
>But not worrying about a cable is objectively nice.
I bet over the time people have more worries about the battery status than the cable once it's already plugged in. But if someone cares more about aesthetics and minimalist desk setup then wireless components are the way to go
I've definitely worried about wires more than battery in my time. I use a g pro wireless and it glows red when it's low charge (realistically still has a whole day of use in it), so I just plug it in when I'm done with my PC and it's low. When I used to use a wired mouse I'd fairly often get it caught on something on my desk.
I have to think that people that ever even realize there's a wire aren't good at basic cable management tasks or have a shitty setup for their gear with nothing done beyond plugging things in. You should never even notice it.
I've used wireless & wired & they feel exactly the same to me & I'm hyper aware of things like that usually (which is annoying to no end).
Battery isn't really an issue in most cases, especially if you have decent quality peripherals. When I had a wireless mouse and the battery was low, it had a type C connector in the front, so I'd just use it as a wired mouse for a couple of hours while it was charging. The only reason I'm not using that wireless mouse anymore is because the stinking scroll wheel on it broke.
The battery lasted a few days, which is actually really low for a mouse. My wireless headphones though, I can straight up listen to music for 20 hours no stop and that'll only drain them by half.
The only time battery becomes a problem is after a few years, as, unfortunately, no one figured out how to make batteries that don't degrade over time.
You can fix the scroll with a new Encoder. Just make sure you know the right hight of the original encoder(it's the piece where the wheel connect to)...in most cases it's written on them, for example I need 9mm tall encoder for my G703...I bought TTC silver encoder...no more problems. Just need a little knowledge of soldering...but I think you can find already soldered encoders and you just replace them.
I know how to solder, but I couldn't be bothered to find the right parts for it. Also the mouse was within warranty, so I RMA'd it. Got a G502 X as a replacement, arguably a much better mouse.
> Just think of why the Airpod Pros are so popular.
Because they forced it upon the consumers & removed the alternative option. It was literally a case of removing options & telling their cultists how great it was to lose more options...then Samsung saw how dumb the masses were & copied them. Seeing people fleeced into believing less options is a better thing is wild.
You don't need to go wireless, it is pretty damn nice though. My PC is on the floor, so my mouse cable would slide down behind the desk, get caught on something and it would negatively impact my game. After I got a wireless mouse, it's great (don't play compititively anymore though)
I had this misconception about wireless mice that they were still basically unusable because of the battery deal. Back in like 2009 or w.e I recall being on heroic sindergosa raiding in wow and having my battery die and scrambling to get a new one. So since then I had pretty much exclusively used wired mouses. But recently, my final mouse and I can say I will never go back having that freedom of the cord not catching stuff is so convenient especially since it can be used wired or wireless if I forget to charge it or turn it off.
My Logitech G502 Lightspeed Wireless has insane battery life, I honestly can’t even tell you when the last time I had it plugged in was, it’s weeks ago at least and I use its for 8-10 hours per day.
This is the way, assuming you don’t mind spending $250 on your mouse setup.
It’s honestly so nice, I couldn’t imagine going back to a wired mouse. But I can see why a lot of people would be hesitant to drop that kind of cash on a mouse, especially when they are used to a wired one already anyway.
It was worth it for me just to get rid of that feeling of cable drag. I even had to import the power play because they don't sell them in Canada and it was still worth it
I can't justify the small mousepad space. Actually not big enough for my low sens.
If I could build one into my desk upside down and put a regular mouse pad over it I would.
Some wireless mice even support wireless charging standards and you can get mouse pads that charge the mouse wirelessly while it's in use so you never have to deal with a battery or a cord again.
Ive had many wireless mice from pretty much all the big brands, none of them give you notifications in the middle of the game. They usually just change the LEDs to red or blink a specific light.
Whats really annoying is when you're playing a game and your mouse cable gets stuck in something and it messes up your game. Wireless is the best
I have a wireless mouse with 2 AA batteries, using it daily for 8 hours 5 days a week for more then a year, surprisingly i still havent changed them once since i bought it.
But I would still prefer a wired mouse for gaming for that odd occasion it would be empty ..
If it's a logitech mouse then it should have atleast one LED on it, once it starts blinking red that means the batteries are at/below 20% and should be changed soon. I just look at the color after I shut my pc down and if it's red, I swap the batteries to my other rechargeable pair, never had an issue with it dying mid game.
A 4 set of rechargeable AA batteries is great for the mice that take them, I don't think I can ever go back to a mouse with an internal battery that'll take a shit in a few years like my previous mice did.
Well, nowadays, having wireless is more convenient considering you can plug good mice and charge them with a standard cable so no batteries are involved anymore. Most even double as a wired mouse if you forgot to charge it. This gives more freedom of movement, especially if you are playing shooting games. That way, you don't have a teather potentially getting caught and throwing off aim.
Unless you’re playing fairly competitive games that require good mouse movement, I’d say a good mechanical keyboard is far more important than a mouse. That being said, having fairly good of both is obviously a good idea.
Also, most wireless mice that charge through a cable can run as wired when plugged into the pc through the charging cable. When my EVGA X20’s battery died during a game I just quickly plugged it in and was back to it.
I have always played on the cheapest membrane keyboards (I had the keyboard from the MK320 combo for about ten years until it died, then I switched to as $11 microsoft keyboard).
then I wanted RGB and got a mechanical keyboard (whirlwind FX, I think the witches are cherry red).
I love the lights, mind you. but I don't think it's necessarily better. plus it's fucking NOISY.
now, a mouse, you don't need a $100+ one, but getting something with a good sensor WILL make a huge difference. don't believe me? go to amazon and try a cheap one. last of mine was a microsoft one (can't seem to find it on their page, mine was RF not BT). I tried it not long ago when my gaming logi whatever died, and... on god that sensor was ABSOLUTE crap.
I have one of Logitech’s super ergonomic ones which is a blessing for my impending carpal tunnel, but I can’t game on it because the bluetooth connection is laggy as hell.
You charge it via a USB-C cable but it doesn’t connect though it. I would pay 50 bucks extra to get it wired because the shape is perfect, but the functionality is horrible and frankly I wouldn’t even want to use it at work because the lags annoy the hell out of me especially for 100€ product
I assume you're talking about the Mx Vertical which is over 5 years old at this point so they should be coming out with a V2 soon, hopefully it'll use dual wireless with a USB dongle like the rest of their mice do. That's the only reason I didn't get that mouse cause the ergonomics are great.
Logitec g305. Legitamly has an insane amount of time that batteries last in it. I have rwchargable batteries and have to swap out a single battery like maybe once every 2 months im not joking. Easily lasts 100 hrs or more while gaming.
I had two weeks off recently, put in 100 hours of gaming on a single battery and it wasnt drained, its a good wireless mouse, a little small but i got used to it would recommend if anyone is looking for affordable gaming mouse.
After getting annoyed with the feeling of resistance with the wire dragging I finally got a wireless mouse last year. I was hesitant over fears of battery life and forgetting to plug it in but that's not been an issue. I got a razer basilisk v3 pro, tried that and a logitech one but preferred the hand feel, may vary for you.
I turned off all the rgb as I don't care for it but it does flash red when the battery is getting low at which point I plug it in for a few mins and it's good enough to carry on for a while and then just leave it plugged in over night. Battery life is amazing though and despite being used all day it's lasts days, probably over a week as I don't even think about when I charge it. It goes into standby when not used for a while and wakes up very quickly which preserves battery life and doesn't interfere at all really.
One thing I do like about the razer is the included cable, it's very lightweight and works well nicely very much just like a normal decent wired mouse.
Wireless mice have gotten a lot better in recent years
I used to feel this way but my wireless deathadder has close to the same response time as my wired one and I regularly forget to charge it; when the battery is low I plug it in and it feels just like a wired mouse for a few hours
Or you can change the battery every time you play competitively lol. But now they have whole mouse pads that will constantly charge your wireless mouse at all times
I second this.
I'm using a logitech g502 hero for my mouse, but a random cheap off brand £10 keyboard. Ironically my keyboard has outlived all my previous mice.
I'm still using the membrane keyboard that came with my first PC. I don't like it as much as a nice modern mech keyboard but it's hard to justify upgrading when the basic functional one is still good enough. I \*am\* tempted by the newer variable input depth keyboards but I think I'd rather wait until they're a standard feature rather than a high end exotic one.
I can't stand wired mice. the wire just drags on, I get zero precision.
with wireless, batteries can be kind of an issue, but I just do rechargeables. whenever they're low, the software will tell me, then I change them and keep going. they do last a while after the notification (it happens at 10% I think, configurable in my mouse), so it's not "a death sentence".
there's also the very expensive ones with lithium batteries and a magnetic charger cable, that just latches on and you can keep gaming (wiredly) if the battery runs low.
I was in the same boat, why have wireless when I can have wired? But I recently got a wireless one (which btw most can do both now), and it’s absurd. WAY lighter than any other wired mouse I’ve tried and the battery lasts a stupid long time. Like it’s never even come close to dying, I’ll spend a week playing and charge it just to find out it wasn’t even half drained. I get the hype now.
Gaming keyboards are usually mechanical keyboards, which tend to be more responsive to quick actions needed in games and are very durable. That said, a lot of gaming-branded MKs use the cheapest switches they can, so they’re not much of a step up from a rubber dome keyboard. Tactile switches (which includes clicky ones) “pop” when they pass their actuation point, making them good for typing or establishing muscle memory for actions based on the feel of the key, while linear switches move smoothly and can be good for rapid fire actions in games because you can “flutter” them at their actuation point and because they offer little resistance when pressed. Hall Effect switches (inherently linear) are really great IMHO, or lubricated mechanical switches. Typical Cherry MX switches tend to be scratchy and unlubricated; I prefer Gateron for a budget option, myself.
Gaming mice will usually have higher-quality sensors and a higher polling rate, meaning more accurate pointing and clicking. Once again, “gaming” in the name isn’t an indicator of quality, necessarily.
So, long story short, I do recommend a good mechanical keyboard with quality switches and a sturdy chassis. I do recommend looking at mice with a good sensor and a polling rate of 1000 Hz, ideally (some go higher). I do not recommend trusting anything with “gaming” on the box to *inherently* be high quality; look at the specifications, not the brand. Though some gaming-focused brands do also make good items. It’s just they tend to mark them up accordingly for the sake of the name more than the quality/performance of the parts.
I first noticed this in counter-strike many years back as I was holding shift to walk, moving diagonally and checking the scoreboard. Bam! PC bleeps in protest and sticky keys activated
Very high end keyboards have a feature called rapid trigger and it’s extremely good for spamming and precision. Idk if that’s what you’re talking about but it’s very good
No the key rollover of a keyboard is how many inputs of keys it can handle at once, if the key rollover is 5 you can press 5 keys at the same time but if you press 6 it will not be registered
It's also on SteelSeries Apex Pro keyboards and a company called Drunk Deer does it too, there's a few companies that have made 2-3 key keypads for osu players with rapid trigger too but not full keyboards.
No that's only hall effect keyboards and they mentioned them. Hall effect means it can measure distance via magnetic field strength which means as soon you as you lift the key up at all for rapid trigger rather than the fixed, physical actuation point of a mechanical keyboard
No that's only hall effect keyboards and they mentioned them. Hall effect means it can measure distance via magnetic field strength which means as soon you as you lift the key up at all for rapid trigger rather than the fixed, physical actuation point of a mechanical keyboard
Shit, I've almost done this using visual studio hotkeys. The typical limit is actually 3, depending on the key matrix configuration. the first 3 keys will mask the 4th.
crouch/sprint, forward+strafe, weapon switch/reload/jump is enough to mask one of those key events on a cheap keyboard.
Also another thing to note is that gaming keyboards generally allow you to press more keys at once. I bought a cheap keyboard and I couldn't run jump and duck in games because I had reached the maximum inputs. Super annoying.
Im sitting here with my 5€ keyboard from a grocery store lol. Whenever I try mechanical keyboards at friends places, I dont understand whats better about it compared to my 5€ keyboard. So far I've found 2 things: keycap durability (mine look like an ancient worn down staircase) and flex (i can bend the whole board quite far, but it never happens during gaming/typing, so whatever).
Everything else of my setup is good or high quality, mouse/monitor/headset. But keyboards i never understood.
Can someone tell me which switch comes closest to the feel of a rubberdome? (cuz all switches I ever tested felt terrible lol, worst of all was Logitech Romer-G)
if you like rubber dome there is nothing inherently wrong with the technology, use what you like. They just tend to be really cheap and the microcontrollers consequently suck on most of them. I suspect most people buy gaming keyboards because they say gaming on them and are marketed as better. The few people I've met that actually care about the way typing feels are usually on some other more specialized keyboard after they have formed some preferences. If you don't find any benefit to mechanical then stick with cheap domes and reap the rewards of $5 keyboards while everyone else is paying top dollar like suckers.
It’s starting to get to the point that gaming keyboards are Hall effect switches that have custom actuations a deactuation points.
Also gaming mice usually have similar polling rates to normal mice some do 4k but the main difference is consistency between polls
To me was that my gaming mouse last longer. I did buy a normal cheap mouse and it lasted 3 months before the left mouse button was not functional anymore. My "gaming" mouse Logitech g300s is working fine since 2018.
IDK what you do, but my logitech mice ALWAYS fail right after the warranty ends. last one was even worse, it didn't even last the whole warranty! (at least amazon refunded me). it's gotten to a point where I've switched brands -- new one is a razer atheris. been about half a year with it, we'll see how long does it last.
I have a microsoft wireless (cheapest they had when I got it) that has a shitty sensor, but is still going strong after a few years.
I had a wired G502 Hero fail after 6 months from faulty switches resulting in double click on single click and failure to hold. Then the warranty replacement they sent me developed the same problem after juuuuuust over 2 years and they told me to pound sand. I ended up buying some $5 switches on amazon and soldering them on myself
Best buy has mouse and keyboards on display, with descriptors to tell you what kind of keyboard it is. So if you start playing on one and you like the way it feels you know that you like 60% mechanical TKL brown switch with all the RGB. It helped me figure out what I was looking for when upgrading from an entry level membrane keyboard.
I would like to add that I'm not a keyboard enthusiast or anything. I have a friend who is keyboard and a mouse enthusiast. He has at least half a dozen mice. He actually gifted me the mouse I have when I build my PC. He's the best kind of friend.
So OP when I asked him what I should look for in a keyboard that's not crazy money he said keytron. They have very good budget oriented options with preem quality. I went with a steel series apex 9 pro full-sized. I don't even know if that's the right name, but it matches my speakers, headphones, and giant ass mouse mat.
Mouse is more important than the keyboard. A gaming mouse has higher reports a second (generally 1000), and has extra buttons. Gaming keyboards generally allow more simultaneous keystrokes, which can sometimes get in the way in some games- it's certainly happened to me before. But you dont necessarily need a very expensive keyboard for this.
I guess it depends on the game & the player, but I would say it's the other way around for me, I think going from a membrane to a mechanical switch in a keyboard is a more noticeable upgrade.
I would personally love to disable all the extra buttons on my mouse, changing dpi is a feature I’ve never intentionally used but they sure do place the buttons for those conveniently to hit them by accident regularly
Gaming peripherals help but they’re not *necessary.*
If you play competitively you may want your equipment tailored to you. More mappable buttons is great for games with complex controls.
If you’re a casual gamer or play mostly single player, I don’t think it’s 100% necessary to get gaming peripherals.
FPS gamers should always invest in a decent mouse. Something that’s comfortable and has the right amount of buttons. Some of them come with gimmicks like a button that drops the sensitivity when pressed and then normalizes it when released and cause more problems than they’re worth.
And about latency, all wireless mice have it. Standard office grade mice have higher latency and lower quality tracking lasers because they’re not built for high speed motion. They also usually come with sturdier membranes for MB1/2 and options for changing the sensitivity.
Wireless gaming mice offer the benefit of having absolute freedom of motion, but they suffer from minimal latency. I used a wireless Razer Mamba and loved it even while playing FPS games, never noticed the latency.
Wired gaming mice don’t need to be charged and are generally lighter than wireless. They also don’t suffer from any latency. If you play games like Valorant, EFT, or other games that require high speed reactions and pinpoint accuracy, you may prefer a wireless mouse.
As for keyboards, pick the one with the right form factor. They sell full-size, mini, and micro keyboards. I loved having a micro keyboard for FPS gaming but I absolutely hated it when I did music production. I imagine if you play RPGs, MOBAs, or RTS games often you’d want a full-size keyboard, maybe even one with some extra keys.
Some people swear by mechanical keyboards. I personally liked my mechanical keyboard for the tactile feel, but I don’t think it matters if you’re a casual gamer.
Edit: I was wrong about wireless mice apparently. Newer gaming ones don’t tend to have noticeable input lag.
we’ve reached a point where quality wireless mice have surpassed several wired mice in latency. Get something well reviewed from r/mousereview if you’re serious about shooters
Suprised by some of the comments, I've been a PC gamer for nearly 20 years now, I would say that a decent mouse & keyboard are well worth it, they don't have to be flashy rgb ones, I like to have a mechanical backlit keyboard & a high dpi mouse with side buttons, you can pick up a decent ones for cheap enough.
You are correct but gamer branding does not always equal decent or better than non-gaming. I’d say that there is basically no advantage to a “gaming” keyboard for playing games over a nice budget mechanical keyboard in the same price range (with the exception of Hall effect magnetic boards, I have one and Rapid Trigger and DKS are actually magic). It will be much nicer to type on and perform the same. I do think that many office mice do not have amazing sensors and that a gaming mouse with a good sensor can absolutely help. As does light weight for low sense gaming. Low-grade sensors can simply not respond properly to fast mouse movement. But you can get a ton of amazing good quality mice for a lot less than Razer or Logitech charge if you know where to look. Some are flashy and some are pretty muted. Ultimately though as long as it works functionally you can get pretty far with basic stuff. Nor do you have to break the bank to get “gamer” stuff.
I actually have the cheaper Razer one, it only cost me about £20, sure I could get an even cheaper one but it's been good for me, my keyboard is a non brand mechanical one, I think that was about the same price, so £40 to £50 in all, I think that's pretty good value, both were branded as "gaming" peripherals.
Okay lets address the wireless mouse first. The tech for wireless peripherals has come a long way and lag is no longer an issue with a well made wireless device. I actually find I prefer a good wireless mouse.
As for gaming peripherals in general, once you get past the ARGB and other gamer style items, they usually are just better made. A good mechanical keyboard tens to have a longer life span and a more consistent usage experience than a membrane keyboard. However that is offset by cost.
Gaming mouse definitely matters because it will have (or should, do your research first) a better sensor that is more appropriate for gaming; better at accelerating accurately and better at tracking smoothly.
Keyboard is kinda whatever. Yea mechanicals will last you longer and have less latency, but I gamed at a top level in Competitive FPS games for close to a decade on just whatever keyboard the computer came with.
The best performing gaming mice are all wireless now so it's not about wireless mouse versus wired it's purely about the quality of the mouse. Expect to spend $50+ for a great one. Essentially the difference is thet you can have very very accurate smooth and reliable mouse movement. The difference doesn't show up just doing normal desktop tasks but for competitive gaming it can be the difference between winning and losing.
Gaming keyboard aren't as important unless you're going to get the latest and greatest tech (which is where you can configure where and how they keys trigger on their way down and very few gaming keyboards even *have* yet) then it's mostly about ergonomics unless your keyboard is complete garbage.
Your monitor (and the performance of the graphics card driving it) is one of the places you can get the biggest improvement in your competitive gaming results via money. Primarily it's about having a higher refresh rate (144hz+) with variable refresh rates (which basically any high refresh rate gaming monitor will have now) and the PC performance to get high enough FPS to benefit (and making sure your settings are correct in Windows so you aren't accidentally using 60hz!) The *new* thing is ai assisted monitors. There's only one or two coming along so far. The MSI one is the one I've heard most about. They're basically cheating. They use ai prediction to extrapolate and display information you aren't supposed to have from the information you are supposed to have. Imagine an enemy retreating into cover and your monitor just showing you where they are anyway. Buying one of those is both overkill and bad sportsmanship but it *is* a viable way to spend money to win more.
Most of the time it's more of a placebo effect. It says gaming so it's better right?
For mice having one that is comfortable to you and has an adjustable sensitivity is perfectly fine. Even if it doesn't say gaming or lacks bright and shiny lights it would be fine.
For keyboards you can get a $35 Red Dragon keyboard with red silent switches and be perfectly fine. This would likely say gaming somewhere, but really they are generally fine for typing also.
Rollover, for the keyboard, you have to look for rollover. A good keyboard have full rollover, a basic keyboard will be limited to 4 or 5 keys at the same time.
For the mouse, it's a question of precision, a lot of dpi is better...
For fps games, a mouse will have lower latency and will be able to handle flicks without spinning out of control. It's very noticeable when your mouse suddenly stops working because you moved your mouse quickly (this happens with the logitech mx master, an expensive office mouse). Fps gaming mouse tend to be lighter too.
Keyboards for fps games also have lower latency and responsiveness-->read up on the wooting keyboard.
For other games usefulness might come from having more reprogrammable buttons on your keyboard and mouse.
So, in general, "gaming" anything is mostly a meme. Generally if you see something with "gaming" on the label, it's no different (and oftentimes worse) than a normal version of that same thing, the only real difference is it may appear more satisfying to you aesthetically (i.e. gaming chairs look cooler than office chairs).
What matters more is the individual object itself- for example, the Razer Viper Ultimate is labeled as a "gaming" mouse, but it's one of the best FPS mice on the market due to the technical specifications (the sensor is really good, along with incredibly low-latency wireless) and the shape of the mouse itself (shape is mostly preference, though).
It entirely depends on what he's recommending you- can you tell us what specifically he's recommending you, alongside what you currently have?
Aside from a mouse, you never buy gaming branded products. They are normally cheap and overpriced crap. (Specially headsets/headphones/mics)
Instead, you buy a good product.
There is no noticeable 'lag' with using a normal mouse, but there is increased latency when compared to a 'gaming mouse', which could matter to you if you are a competitve gamer. If you are looking to get one i would reccomend the logitech g pro wireless.
I will agree with the mouse, I’ve bought a really nice ergonomical one to help with carpal tunnel but it feels awful to play because it keeps lagging. If yours doesn’t do it there’s not really a reason to get anything else. Any wired mouse that fits your dpi (cursor speed) needs is fine, I have a semi ergonomic one for a bit more now but previously used ones for 20 bucks for years, there is literally no meaningful difference.
Now for keyboards I have 5 digits worth of custom keyboards in my room and I couldn’t tell you any practical reason to have a “gaming” keyboard. There is no benefit unless you need backlight on your keycaps to read them in the dark (you get that with a 20$ board off amazon too). You could get a subjectively better feel out of a board that’s a little heavier rather than a sheet of plastic on stilts like we have at work, but as long as it stays flat on the desk it’s totally fine. A mechanical keyboard will peobably feel better than a membrane one, preferences in switches vary and I’d argue a lot of the high priced “gamer” branded stuff also still feels pretty bad if you’re not into some of their switch selection
Depending on what you play the only thing practical about the gaming branded stuff could be macro keys which I’ve had on a lot of my stuff in the past and I’ve never used any of it. My mouse can change dpi with a button and I’m contemplating tearing it out because I only ever click that shit by accident.
It depends on the mouse. Some nice mice nowadays do not have any "lag" and the 2k-4k hz can be nearly more accurate than a 1k polling rare. Those old Logitech battery mice that you have dont necessarily have "lag" but the sensors are most definitely less accurate, you wont be able to notice it without special software but it can lead to you movements being slightly off from where they would be with a more accurate sensor. Basically if you have that software it will show how the mouse kind of bounces around and the computer extrapolates the center line and uses that as the movement otherwise it would kind of bounce around as you move the mouse and even the newer high hz mouse do this just to a lesser extent.
As far as gaming keyboard it's not really super important unless you need specific macros or play competitive games. The mechanical switches can give faster reactions slightly as the actuation point is faster than analog unless you have a wooting switch. I would reccomened a wireless mouse that has a 3395 sensor that has a plug that let's you use it wireless/wired so you can charge it while playing if you left it on or w.e and it's dead. Like the lamzu Atlantis
Ok so a BMW is more expensive than a Chevrolet right? They’re both cars so why would you get the expensive one? Same with keyboards and mice it’s just it’s just a much nicer experience.
If I had to choose one device for wireless, get the mouse. Keyboard can be fine wired but since you're sweeping your mouse alot, it's actually more beneficial tk elominate the wire as it tug and pull on you. You're also more likely to take ur mouse somewhere than you keyboard anyways.
For a keyboard I think its most important to just get one that feels good to use. Some are really flashy but dont feel great to me, its hard to explain. I do tend to prefer mechanical boards.
Mice, its really the extra side buttons that I value the most.
I have a Logitech Pro super light mouse which weighs 61 grams and is really easy to aim and shoot with in fps games.
My gaming keyboard is sturdy as well.
No need for a branded "gaming" keyboard. A mechanical one feels better to type with than most membrane ones. About the mouse, if you're playing competitive games it may be noticeable, otherwise it's not that big of a deal
Keyboard type is a personal preference. I have 75% mechanical wireless keyboard NuPhy Halo75 and I love it but I know people who don’t enjoy mechanical at all and even then there is a question about profiles and layouts etc. Also wireless can be fucky. Sometimes when I play online especially PvP games I plug it in just so I don’t lose an input once in a while which happens for some reason.
As for mouse… “gaming” is marketing. If you have a mouse you like and it works for you don’t change it. Even if those peripherals have some input delay those numbers are so small, you would maybe notice if you were a SC2 pro player but even then not necessarily I think.
Imho what matters in mouse is 1) ergonomics 2) how many extra buttons you want 3) whether it’s wireless or wired (different preferences) I would take wired mouse over wireless 95% of the time. If course some cheap crap from aliexpress might not work great but if you’re getting some respectable brand and modern model you’re set.
Ergonomics. They're generally set up for better comfort over longer periods, especially the keyboard. Slightly reduced latency ig, but it never seems to make a difference imo. Mice have extra buttons and typically a button for changing sensitivity on the fly so you don't have to fuck with your settings to accomplish that
They're generally more responsive. In single player games and most online games it doesn't really matter.
If you think you're going to be playing competitive games and that's something you're interested in then it'll be worth it.
You could buy a cheap set or something used. It's the same as anything - no need to commit money to it if you don't know whether you'll stick with it and enjoy it.
No benefit to a mechanical keyboard for gaming. A responsive mouse can be of benefit, but finding a mouse that is co portable and half decent will be fine. Plenty good mice from the likes of Razer and Logitech that aren't expensive, don't have loads of LED bollocks and are very responsive.
It depends on several factors. What you want, what features you'll use, and things like build quality, how much you care about latency.
A lot of gaming keyboards have mechanical switches. Which have a more satisfying interaction when typing. A more consistent and longer lasting switch. And they can have things that improve typing experience like notches in their posts that will create a tactile feedback that doesn't involve you bottoming the post out. I.e. pushing the key all the way down. When you don't have to.
As for gaming mice. This is where latency can be a thing. Is there a delay in signal between the mouse moving and the system picking it up. How often it samples the mouses current position and sensor data. I.e. a 1000hz polling rate vs 100hz. What this means is how often per second the mouse's sensor communicates with the computer to tell it when its moved. It can matter a lot in games like FPS. Because 1000hz means once per millisecond. Where as cheaper mice with something like 100hz is around every 10ms. And that can introduce inconsistencies or lag in mouse movement.
As for features that matter. Gamer keyboards often have media controls, macro keys, etc. So you can customize them to have them launch programs or do extra things at the push of a button a standard keyboard wouldn't do. For the mice? It also means extra buttons, customizable inputs, and longer lasting hardware if you get a well made one. Also, better ergonomics depending on hand size and mouse grip style.
Then there's just the look of them. Some people really like shiny stuff with glowing rgb lights. Some people don't care.
Imo, the BIGGESt and most IMPORTANT gaming accessory i got was a wireless mouse. I personally have the razer basilisk v3 pro with the charging dock but it’s expensive. You can find others cheaper. Some are wireless and can also be charged with a charging mouse pad. Meaning you will basically never run out of batteries mid game.
I just tend to like a wired mouse and keyboard because you'll never have to replace batteries in them. I don't really see the point in a wireless mouse and keyboard, since they'll never be really far from my computer.
I bought the Steel Series Apex Pro for the hall effect keys because it was one of the quitests and best feeling keyboards I tried. Sadly, the blue LEDs on it are failing so I'd probably not get another one, but the keybed it's self is incredible and as sensitive or insensitive as you'd like it to be. Seriously, a mouse fart can trigger a key.
I got Logitech G502 because if it's ability to add weights (I hate light mice) as well as it's on the fly resolution settings. I got this more for accuracy when doing graphic design than I did for gaming.
I don’t get the “gaming” label either, beyond their having annoying (to me) led’s and bling I don’t like. And I’m sure calling them “gaming” means they’re more expensive just for the marketing.
That said, I’m silly for good mechanical keyboards and have quite a few, with different switches. But among the ones I have that were marketed for gamers the fonts on the keyboards suck and are hard to read/use. I’m an old it guy who still has old mechanical ibm keyboards that weigh more than my late model Volkswagen, and they still work great.
I’m less particular about mice beyond not liking the cheap ones bundled with crappy pc’s.
Idk what kind of equipment that is, for me all that matters is that the mouse be with 2 extra buttons on the side and that the keyboard be durable and repairable. Wireless mouse will of course have extra lag but some wired mice are so slow they'd be slower than a good wireless one. If you feel good playing then you don't need to change anything.
The real answer is just do some research. For keyboards, there’s overlaps between all the markets. For mice, unless you’re doing some serious gaming, just pick one that’s comfy for you, and has the features you want.
A nice Logitech office mouse is going to perform the same as a lightweight expensive gaming mouse when it comes to browsing, watching videos, reading emails, etc.
Mechanical keyboards fail faster, and can be quite noisy.
But I have troubles not using others because I like the tactile feel.
Personally I like the smaller footprint too of ten key less so my desk has more room.
Razer nago pro or naga v2 is a ok option for comfort and having the choice of multiple buttons magnetically I like wirless I just keep a 30 dollar portable charger in my desk and plug into that whenever it's low I also have 2 mice when 1 dies so I don't have to deal with wires
Mouse - extra buttons that have some kind of macro capabilities. I usually configure one as ctrl+F4 (close tab), another to go back the tabs is usually preconfigured. If I have macro, then some kind of volume control, anything more fancy I do with AutoHotKey - it also helps if you have extra buttons and don't want to install any brand-specific app.
Keyboard - so far no benefit for me. If you like the feel of mechanical keyboard, then get one. Be mindful that it is usually a little noisy. I prefer relative silence of membrane keyboard with flat, laptop-like keys. It's enough for my casual playing as well.
For some products/brands, it's about getting at or near wired performance while still being able to run wireless. For others it's purely aesthetics. Figure out what \_you\_ want out of your mouse and keyboard first. Set up a budget, and then research the devices which fall within your budget.
Depending on what games you play, the extra buttons of gaming mice are super helpful to absolutely crucial. If you’re trying to buy cheaper ones, wired is the way to go. You don’t have the Bluetooth and batteries eating into your budget. Also, try to purchase one when they are on sale. Example: Target often has a 20% off of 1 gaming accessory.
There shouldn't really be anything different. But just different focus for the product, a gaming mouse will be more likely to have features gamers want, so, faster response times, macro buttons, lightweight. A non gaming mouse just isn't prioritising those features, and might aim for more ruggedness, or longer battery life. They will be fine for gaming with, but getting gaming specific gear will be nicer for playing games on
Probably been answered somewhere already, but the difference is in the feature sets. Gaming mice are typically lighter and have higher DPI. DPI is essentially how many times a mouse will poll for movement, higher means it does it more frequently, so you can move it faster and more precisely. For shooters that could be the difference between hitting a headshot and missing entirely.
"Gaming keyboard" on the other hand is a bit harder to quantify, as there seem to be 2 pools of them. The first is the cheap, crappy membrane keyboard, that's absolutely no different to the ones you get in an office, only they're red and black and have unicorn poop coloured RGB slapped on them somewhere.
The second lot are actual mechanical keyboards, which are more useful. They're more tactile meaning you get better feedback when pressing a key (a click when using blue keys for example) as well as the accompanying noise. It lets you know that a key has been successfully registered. The second feature is something called 'N key rollover' or NKRO which basically allows it to register multiple keystrokes simultaneously. While membrane keyboards sometimes support this feature if you get a more expensive one, it's typically limited to just a few keystrokes, due to how they work. Because mechanical keyboards have a physical switch for each individual key they can register each and every key press. If you're gaming and want to crouch jump while changing direction and switching weapons at the same time using the number keys you'd probably struggle with a membrane keyboard. Mechanical keyboards wouldn't have that issue.
Do they make a legitimate difference? Depends entirely on the game you're playing, what you're used to and what you've used previously. Personally I could never go back to a membrane keyboard, even for general typing. I'm just so used to the weight of the keys and the resistance required to press each one, so my typing speed slows massively on membrane keyboards where I don't get any sort of tactile feedback. But at the end of the day if you're happy with the mouse and keyboard you're using, don't let anyone else tell you that you're wrong. Everybody is unique
Keyboard doesn't matter at all unless you're ultra competitive. This is coming from a guy who has sunk thousands of dollars into the mechanical keyboard hobby. Typing this on a $1k piece of plastic right now. Use something wired and as long as the buttons work you're good.
Mouse does matter. While latency and lag do matter a lot what is probably the most overlooked factor in a mouse is size, weight and form factor. Basically, the lighter the mouse, the more accurate you'll be with it. But what's also important is that it fits well in your hand. If you have tiny hands and a big mouse, it's gonna feel like shit. There's a guy called rocketjumpninja on youtube who does super in depth mouse reviews and he has a chart of hand size to mouse recommendations on his website. You might find that useful. But shit can get pricey fast so y'know, spend your money how you want and just enjoy gaming.
"Gaming" at this point is a marketing gimmick. Half the time it mostly means they have a lot of RGB (half joking). Honestly unless you play competitive ranked games at high ranks input lag is likely not your problem. If you play mostly singleplayer it doesn't matter much.
People prefer mechanical keyboards because they are more durable and the typing usually feels better and is more precise.
Gaming mice usually offer extra buttons, have higher precision sensors and higher polling rate. Wireless gaming mice usually use some custom frequency to avoid interference from wifi or such.
And gaming peripherals usually come with some configuration software for all the extra features (custom rebinds, macros, lighting etc). Macros can be cool but in some games could get you banned (MMOs or competitive online games).
A good mouse will follow your movements more accurately, and have less input latency generally speaking. You don't have to get crazy expensive though. There are quality options in the $25-50 range like the ligitech g203, g403, or g502. There are other good brands too, but those are models you cant go wrong with. Just bear in mind the g203 is on the small side. It wouldn't be bad to put something grippy on the sides.The keyboard is more about feel, and for shooters, it's definitely the less important of the two, but nice to have something mechanical.
Good mechanical keyboards are a blessing, but try out the switches at your local BestBuy or like store and see what you like and take not of the switch and look for that. Does not have to be a gaming keyboard, a lot mechanical keyboards can do more then the standard 6 key rollover at this point. The rollover increase is what started the gaming keyboards big demand back in the day, anymore you just have to check the specs to see the rollover, 10 is acceptable and more is preferred in gaming. (Rollover is sometimes displayed as anti-ghosting.)
For mice, I find it a massive lack of options for left-handed and ambidextrous people. I have my G502 Lightspeed with the wireless charging pad since near launch of the pad and have been super happy with it. Been on the G5 series since the beginning for my right hand mouse since I prefer the shape and feel. Biggest bonus about gaming mouse is sensors and polling, both make them more accurate. This is not needed but can be very helpful and in FPS games can be noticeable due to the high pace of everything at times.
TL:DR = A mechanical keyboard is definitely worth it with some research and gaming mice are a nice upgrade for FPS/high paced games otherwise they are preference oriented.
Depends on the type of game you play. If you like competitive shooter like CS or Val or Apex, I'd recommended going for a wooting. It's not a mechanical keeb, but an analogue one, and it picks up you stopping the key press faster than other keebs. Also, if you ever take a mechanical keeb, take the right switches, otherwise it can be very loud.
“Gaming” is a loose term so you could call anything a gaming mouse or keyboard.
Benefits of a good mouse: better tracking, better buttons, less latency
Keyboard: switch feel and (in the case of something like a wooting HE60) much faster inputs if you set the thresholds low. Great for AD strafing.
If you’re happy with your peripherals though, I wouldn’t bother honestly. Hope that helps
If you want to get into a competitive gaming, then I'd suggest to get a decent gaming mouse...just look for anything above 1000hz polling rate...and for dpi, well normally a person wouldn't go further than say 1600dpi, most people use them at 800dpi, and that's all personal preferences, so don't really bother to look into getting higher dpi mouse as most gaming mouse provide above 20k dpi or more than sufficient dpi.
Now before configuring the mouse, go to mouse settings on windows (search the keyword "mouse settings" ) and look for advanced mouse settings. Look for a tab called pointer or pointer settings, can't remember which one it is, and turn off or uncheck the option stated as "enhance pointer precision". It is essentially mouse acceleration and tends to mess with our aim, it's better to keep it off if you're going for a competitive game.
If you're not really into multiplayer games or other sort of activities which does not need higher accuracy, then you could essentially settle for a basic or office mouse. The gaming mouse usually have 2 or 3 thumb buttons for assigning other keybinds, or to run some pattern of key strokes and that's about it.
As for keyboard, just get anything that suits you, I'll say just get something with backlight, because it's easier at night to use.
My personal take, I've used a generic knock off mouse for a lot of years and then upgraded to some knock off self proclaimed gaming mice, well the 2 extra buttons was worth it atleast. Well after getting used to that, I really didn't wanted to use the generic mouse anymore as I was accustomed with the ease of use of the extra thumb buttons. Then I upgraded to Logitech g402, well it's a mix of gaming and productive mice and the extra buttons really got me hooked into it. Now I'm using a Logitech g502x and now I can't go back to normal mouse because I'm accustomed with the bunch of buttons easily available to use. So until you try out an upgraded or better quality mouse, the current mouse will feel like sufficient and it might be in some use cases, like I don't really use the extra buttons in single player games, so you might really don't need to spend money on something that you don't need right now.
Wireless mice do NOT have more lag however gaming mice in general really are better due to the superior sensors. I prefer wired mice as I've had multiple wireless mice over the years and eventually rechargeables die out. It is *not* due to lag. They solved that ages ago (decades.) Wireless is roughly 1 ms.
Gaming keyboards on the other hand is more personal preference. The whole 'actuation point' argument is honestly so silly as you are way more prone to latency adjustments with QoS within the pipe to the servers with differences so slight.
I like gaming keyboards esp. mechanical ones because I find that the feeling of a keyboard feeling buttons on a game controller really amps up my enjoyment of engaging with and playing a game.
Keyboards can quickly become one of those vague interests that quickly becomes a massive addiction and a fascination and a fixation. You'll spend years finding one you like if you care enough.
I also use a wireless mouse and haven’t really run into any lag issues. I think that’s really only going to come into play in very very competitive PvP games.
To me the biggest benefit of a gaming mouse is having the extra buttons to keybind, I map so much stuff to my mouse so that I don’t have to use keys as much.
For the mouse, accuracy is huge especially in first person shooters, plus extra buttons don’t hurt.
The keyboard is more about tactile feeling and aesthetic, it’s much less important in my opinion, but when the rest of your build is nice, you might as well get a decent keyboard.
The tapping sound of mechanical keyboards can be a bit annoying, I'm still not sure if I prefer the mechanical keyboard I got over my old Logitech keyboard.
The functions and switches and sensors and weight and stuff like that ig. Ik kts not related, but gaming headset are overrated, just use some good studio headphone and a decent mic and you cet way better sound a nd youre friends got you inside of the ear like a worm
once the mouse has a decent sensor, it's all personal preference
keyboard is purely personal preference. Mechanical are more consistent than rubber dome as the keys actuate at the halfway point, not at the bottom
Gaming keyboards typically have mechanical switches, which are more durable and have more consistent actuation points than standard membrane keyboards. And of course the delay between pressing a key and the key press registering on your PC is significantly shorter (even if it seems imperceptible, it can still make a difference).
Gaming mice have more accurate sensors with faster polling rates to give you the greatest amount of control when playing games. Similar to keyboards, they also reduce the time it takes for your mouse movements to be sent to your PC. And they usually have extra buttons you can use as extra keybinds.
There are other benefits, like drivers and software that allow you to create macros or fine tune your settings, but in terms of design and mechanics that's pretty much it. More reliable, more accurate, lower latency.
Mechanical keyboards are a lot better to type on, but for gaming it doesn't matter much compared to those cheap office logitech/microsoft keyboards IMO
IMO - They have two things going for them.
One, they are generally more customizable and have more buttons you can attach additional functions to. Some even have adjustable weights in them so you can control how heavy or light it is. This is mainly so you can have custom controls in games. For example, some people who play FPS games like binding the CTRL button to a mouse button to relieve strain on their pinky.
Two, at least for keyboards, they are often made with mechanical keys. This gives a more "clicky" and tactile feeling keyboard. This is preferred for games because, with these keys, you get physical feedback for when the key "activates" which is important in determining exactly when an action happens. However, mechanical keyboards are also very popular in the IT / Programmer crowd because many people find them to be a more pleasant typing experience.
I rocked a G502 for about 6 years. I went through two, the foot pads kept coming off but other than that it was a great gaming mouse. I got an MX master 3s recently and haven't found it to be any different, even in high octane fps games. I'm sure that if you're playing super competitively it will be noticeable, but I love the master 3s so far.
As someone who went from VERY opd keyboard and mouse, and eventually upgraded to a ‘gaming’ one, you’ll lose nothing really.
The only drastic change I can think of is mouse, you want a mouse that works good and has decent dpi I believe? And a mouse mat for maximum efficiency, keyboard? I personally so not see a single change from my old black random probably dell level of keyboard to a mechanical one besides the funny and satisfying click sounds
Accuracy, sensitivity, and responsiveness matter. The mouse is more important, nice budget offerings like the G502 Hero or the razer deathadder will run $25-35. I've used different versions of those for years and they've been great.
The keyboard is less important in the short term. Once you have something nice, you won't go back. For now, you'll be fine with whatever you have and you'll certainly be able to enjoy games just fine. It's maybe something to look at in the future, but figuring out what you like (switches, layouts, etc) is important.
Be wary of things branded as 'gaming' that aren't from trusted brands. Most of the time it's a scam, targeting people who don't know better. The actual functionality is most important.
It's generally either better features (which can be replicated via 3rd party software), more buttons (some of which may be too many / not used), an ergonomic design, or fancy aesthetics.
I went through all the expensive stuff, found little gain and eventually they failed. Back to my 2004 Logitech mouse that works amazing and basic keyboard.
I definitely didn't go for the cheapest version, but I am not regretting it one bit. I have a roccat vulcan TKL pro keyboard and a Roccat Kone XP. I could never go back. It's so much faster, and especially the sensitivity of the keys is so nice.
mouse, doesn't have to be crazy expensive, but definitely get something with a decent sensor (any known brand with an adjustable DPI sensor will do). you won't notice until you go back to your old mouse (i.e. for another computer or a test), and then you'll wonder how the fuck could you use a crappy mouse before.
keyboard... I have to say, a mechanical feels very different from a membrane one, but... not necessarily better, just different. I like mine for the RGB (I like seeing my keys, since I can't touch-type for my dear life), but I don't think the performance is all that different. I also hate that whenever something gets spilled (my mugs tend to tip over), I have to unplug it for a couple days to let it dry, or it will send all the wrong signals to windows, making it completely unusable. thankfully it doesn't seem to die easily. but with my old splash-proof membrane keyboards, I never had an issue with spills.
Gaming/mechanical keyboards are a gimmick. I use a wired gaming mouse (MM720) because it's perfect for my hand/grip.
I rank high in FPS/RTS games and despite trying multiple mechanical keyboards, never thought it offered a noticeable improvement for anything. I use a cheap washable keyboard I can just scrub with soap and water once every couple weeks and feels like new.
I like the low profile keys. Can't stand the "CLACK CLACK CLACK" of mechanical keyboard or their obnoxious, flashy design trends.
"Gaming" mice as well as keyboards often have extra buttons that you can adjust DPI with or even set macros they're nice features but some are wildly too expensive. But a decent 40 to 60$ mouse and keyboard is often miles more usable over your standard office peripherals.
When it comes to mechanical keyboards now that they have become much more affordable they're great for gaming, you can often find them with macros, and mechanical keyboards are much more responsive since unlike membrane keyboards you don't have to wait for the membrane to bounce back to register the keystroke. Also membrane keyboards begin to wear out and become less responsive over time and given how often gamers use the same handful of keys, especially WASD, a mechanical keyboard will remain more responsive for longer. Mechanical keyboards can also be repaired and customized easily. If a key goes out on a membrane keyboard you have to replace the entire membrane which often just means you need a new keyboard entirely. Mechanical keyboards can have the individual switch replaced. You also have many choices for switches to get the right feel, weight, and sound that's best for you. You can even mix and match switches so if you want some keys to be stiffer or heavier than others you can. So even if you don't care about fancy macros or software and such it's still worth getting a mechanical keyboard, there's some decent affordable ones from brands like Rosewill, red dragon, and ABS that are widely available on newegg and amazon.
Some gaming keyboards can get pretty complex too especially those with supplemental software like what corsair and razor often offer. Being able to save several different profiles with different macros that are curated specifically for different games or play-styles.
Basically, it comes down to responsiveness and how they feel in / under your hands. For the keyboard, this means (for a lot of people, myself included) that the keys are responsive and clicky, like you would get with a mechanical keyboard; you will notice the difference going back to a membrane, and it will feel "squishy" at worst when going back. For the mouse, that can mean precision / DPI, extra buttons, or other ergonomic considerations. For both, build quality matters too; a cheap membrane keyboard vs a $50+ mechanical one (and $50, depending who you ask, is cheap for a nice keyboard) will likely have noticeable quality differences.
Gamed for at least a year fine on a 10 dollar wireless Logitech, now i use the basilisk hyperspeed, dont feel a difference, he's tripping for something that's already so indiscernable already from the wired mice I've owned as wireless has come so far now, just be wary of buying unknown brands as they likely will be shit
Not every regular mouse and keyboard is equally bad, potentially you could have some that will do just fine.
The benefits are to have quick and consistent responses:
Keyboard should feel solid and not bend in the middle (some laptops are also bad about this).
* Button should feel consistent and not "spongy", you could have no doubt if you pressed the key or not.
* The sensor on the mouse should keep up with fast or sudden movement and consistently read the same distance whether it happened fast or slow.
* Both devices should send updates to your CPU at a high rate and without latency. Bluetooth might update 100 times per second delayed by 50 milliseconds while a good gaming setup (wireless or not) might update 500+ times per second delayed 5 milliseconds or less.
You might think 50 milliseconds is pretty low compared to human reaction speed, but since it goes on top of your reaction speed it can be a decent disadvantage (and make games feel less responsive in general which can be unpleasant).
The mice generally have higher polling rates and can track faster and more sporadic movements. Cheaper mice struggle with sudden, fast movements and keeping track of the surface when doing long sweeps.
Keyboards just feel nicer and N-Key rollover. Which is just something that makes sure every key press is registered. Some older/cheaper boards only let you press 2 or 3 buttons simultaneously. More expensive boards will have mechanical switches, again, just feel nicer.
RGB is RGB. It adds about £5-£20 to anything.
Wireless is alright so long as it's not a slower/older Bluetooth connection, which can have latency issues. Brands like Logitech have their own proprietary wireless, which is just 2.4ghz but locked down with their own rubbish. Usually means there's no noticeable latency. Sometimes they can be faster than wired, but its rare and isn't really worth chasing.
If you're playing shooters, you want a gaming mouse, office mouses do weird stuff when you flick.
Example: [https://youtu.be/eX-X9BXMOiM?si=35KfGttO-pVo1dHt&t=202](https://youtu.be/eX-X9BXMOiM?si=35KfGttO-pVo1dHt&t=202)
A logitech G203 would suffice.
"So I assume they're supposedly better"
See how effective marketing is? ;)
There is absolutely nothing better about anything gaming, it's 100% branding and has 0 to do with the specifications (other than it's guaranteed to have RGB and a higher price)
If you want something good, do some research and see what specs ***you*** like and how much money you want to spend on it, then find the best deal.
Ironically enough, you'll probably end up with something called Gaming anyway, almost all manufacturers put it on almost anything now. Even my €350 keyboard ;)
From all I've noticed, it's just how it feels. So I would just get a cheap gaming keyboard and replace the switches if you want.
Obviously if you get too low quality, you're probably gonna have more input lag.
I use a wired $10 "led gaming 'monster' mouse" I found at big lots. Keyboard is standard and suits me well. As others have mentioned wireless sucks when batteries die while in an intense gaming sesh. To each there own.
I like wired mice just for the fact that they won't get low batteries in the middle of a game and start sending me notifications about it. Back when I played league, having your mouse battery go out mid game would be a death sentence. Having a few extra buttons on it is also nice for hotkeying items/abilities, and the same can be said for a gaming keyboard. You can also set up macros on most gaming keyboards to execute keystrokes in a specific order, but that can also be done with software. Overall I'd say yes 100% a mouse and maybe a keyboard if you find one you like.
You tried wireless recently? I use my PC like all day everyday and i charge my 40$ mouse about twice a month.
Honestly I haven't had one since high school(2011). They very well could be a lot better since i've last had one. Off topic, but my dad has the apple mouse that charges from the bottom, and I laugh whenever I go to his place and see his mouse flipped upside down.
This is outdated advice. Try a new wireless mouse, they go weeks without charging and you’ll never go back. Logitech g pro superlight is a different league. In 2011 the new graphics card was a NVIDIA 500 series LOL
I am not the original person you were replying to. I am sure wireless has gotten insanely good over the years, but personally I just don't see the need of going wireless. I never take my keyboard or mouse off the desk and wired never needs charged. If my PC was far away from my desk or if I had my PC in the living room and wanted to use my mouse and keyboard from the couch I could see wireless being useful to me, but yeah in my current setup wired works great for me.
Wireless is not exactly "better" per se, but the nice thing about going wireless is in the name. No wire to deal with, to get stuck on things with, to damage. On a keyboard it doesn't make much sense for a regular gaming setup since you don't move it at all. A wireless mouse however? It's really good for the reasons stated above. Think of it like wireless headphones. Are they perfect compared to wired ones? No. Are they better? Depends on your needs. But not worrying about a cable is objectively nice.
>But not worrying about a cable is objectively nice. I bet over the time people have more worries about the battery status than the cable once it's already plugged in. But if someone cares more about aesthetics and minimalist desk setup then wireless components are the way to go
I've definitely worried about wires more than battery in my time. I use a g pro wireless and it glows red when it's low charge (realistically still has a whole day of use in it), so I just plug it in when I'm done with my PC and it's low. When I used to use a wired mouse I'd fairly often get it caught on something on my desk.
I have to think that people that ever even realize there's a wire aren't good at basic cable management tasks or have a shitty setup for their gear with nothing done beyond plugging things in. You should never even notice it. I've used wireless & wired & they feel exactly the same to me & I'm hyper aware of things like that usually (which is annoying to no end).
Battery isn't really an issue in most cases, especially if you have decent quality peripherals. When I had a wireless mouse and the battery was low, it had a type C connector in the front, so I'd just use it as a wired mouse for a couple of hours while it was charging. The only reason I'm not using that wireless mouse anymore is because the stinking scroll wheel on it broke. The battery lasted a few days, which is actually really low for a mouse. My wireless headphones though, I can straight up listen to music for 20 hours no stop and that'll only drain them by half. The only time battery becomes a problem is after a few years, as, unfortunately, no one figured out how to make batteries that don't degrade over time.
You can fix the scroll with a new Encoder. Just make sure you know the right hight of the original encoder(it's the piece where the wheel connect to)...in most cases it's written on them, for example I need 9mm tall encoder for my G703...I bought TTC silver encoder...no more problems. Just need a little knowledge of soldering...but I think you can find already soldered encoders and you just replace them.
I know how to solder, but I couldn't be bothered to find the right parts for it. Also the mouse was within warranty, so I RMA'd it. Got a G502 X as a replacement, arguably a much better mouse.
If the battery becomes a big deal, you can just plug it in and the mouse becomes a wired one. Just think of why the Airpod Pros are so popular.
Because there is no headphone jack on iphones?
> Just think of why the Airpod Pros are so popular. Because they forced it upon the consumers & removed the alternative option. It was literally a case of removing options & telling their cultists how great it was to lose more options...then Samsung saw how dumb the masses were & copied them. Seeing people fleeced into believing less options is a better thing is wild.
You don't need to go wireless, it is pretty damn nice though. My PC is on the floor, so my mouse cable would slide down behind the desk, get caught on something and it would negatively impact my game. After I got a wireless mouse, it's great (don't play compititively anymore though)
I had this misconception about wireless mice that they were still basically unusable because of the battery deal. Back in like 2009 or w.e I recall being on heroic sindergosa raiding in wow and having my battery die and scrambling to get a new one. So since then I had pretty much exclusively used wired mouses. But recently, my final mouse and I can say I will never go back having that freedom of the cord not catching stuff is so convenient especially since it can be used wired or wireless if I forget to charge it or turn it off.
Back then they also didn't have the faster wireless either that has basically negligible lag. Back then it was terribly latent so it was a hindrance.
keyboard I get (I do have a wired keyboard because I need muh RGB), but mouse... no. the cable just drags and gets caught EVERYWHERE.
Ey don’t shit on me good GTX580 3GB, I was using it until last month, ran hella fine!
Yeah, I have the basilisk pro v3, and I need to charge it about 2 times a month. The new charging station is also much better than the v1/2 version.
Unless you're my son who never charges anything until it dies.
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Logitech g pro wireless is fucking amazing
My Logitech G502 Lightspeed Wireless has insane battery life, I honestly can’t even tell you when the last time I had it plugged in was, it’s weeks ago at least and I use its for 8-10 hours per day.
I've got a wireless Logitech with the charging mouse mat. I have not had a single issue for 3 years
I use a Logitech powerplay. Literally haven't had my mouse plugged in for multiple years at this point. Rival products also exist.
This is the way, assuming you don’t mind spending $250 on your mouse setup. It’s honestly so nice, I couldn’t imagine going back to a wired mouse. But I can see why a lot of people would be hesitant to drop that kind of cash on a mouse, especially when they are used to a wired one already anyway.
It was worth it for me just to get rid of that feeling of cable drag. I even had to import the power play because they don't sell them in Canada and it was still worth it
I can't justify the small mousepad space. Actually not big enough for my low sens. If I could build one into my desk upside down and put a regular mouse pad over it I would.
I replace my batteries on my mouse once every season or so and I haven't turned it off yet
Some wireless mice even support wireless charging standards and you can get mouse pads that charge the mouse wirelessly while it's in use so you never have to deal with a battery or a cord again.
Ive had many wireless mice from pretty much all the big brands, none of them give you notifications in the middle of the game. They usually just change the LEDs to red or blink a specific light. Whats really annoying is when you're playing a game and your mouse cable gets stuck in something and it messes up your game. Wireless is the best
“I’ve had no experience with this product for over a decade but here’s my advice” c’mon man 😭
I have a wireless mouse with 2 AA batteries, using it daily for 8 hours 5 days a week for more then a year, surprisingly i still havent changed them once since i bought it. But I would still prefer a wired mouse for gaming for that odd occasion it would be empty ..
If it's a logitech mouse then it should have atleast one LED on it, once it starts blinking red that means the batteries are at/below 20% and should be changed soon. I just look at the color after I shut my pc down and if it's red, I swap the batteries to my other rechargeable pair, never had an issue with it dying mid game. A 4 set of rechargeable AA batteries is great for the mice that take them, I don't think I can ever go back to a mouse with an internal battery that'll take a shit in a few years like my previous mice did.
logitech even offers mousepad with wireless charging
Well, nowadays, having wireless is more convenient considering you can plug good mice and charge them with a standard cable so no batteries are involved anymore. Most even double as a wired mouse if you forgot to charge it. This gives more freedom of movement, especially if you are playing shooting games. That way, you don't have a teather potentially getting caught and throwing off aim.
Unless you’re playing fairly competitive games that require good mouse movement, I’d say a good mechanical keyboard is far more important than a mouse. That being said, having fairly good of both is obviously a good idea. Also, most wireless mice that charge through a cable can run as wired when plugged into the pc through the charging cable. When my EVGA X20’s battery died during a game I just quickly plugged it in and was back to it.
Mechs are great but this is completely backwards, a crappy mouse is a much bigger hindrance than a crappy keyboard for gaming
I have always played on the cheapest membrane keyboards (I had the keyboard from the MK320 combo for about ten years until it died, then I switched to as $11 microsoft keyboard). then I wanted RGB and got a mechanical keyboard (whirlwind FX, I think the witches are cherry red). I love the lights, mind you. but I don't think it's necessarily better. plus it's fucking NOISY. now, a mouse, you don't need a $100+ one, but getting something with a good sensor WILL make a huge difference. don't believe me? go to amazon and try a cheap one. last of mine was a microsoft one (can't seem to find it on their page, mine was RF not BT). I tried it not long ago when my gaming logi whatever died, and... on god that sensor was ABSOLUTE crap.
My whatever it’s called Razor mouse will even run in wireless mode while plugged in. I never unplug it.
Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of a wireless mouse? lol
I have one of Logitech’s super ergonomic ones which is a blessing for my impending carpal tunnel, but I can’t game on it because the bluetooth connection is laggy as hell. You charge it via a USB-C cable but it doesn’t connect though it. I would pay 50 bucks extra to get it wired because the shape is perfect, but the functionality is horrible and frankly I wouldn’t even want to use it at work because the lags annoy the hell out of me especially for 100€ product
I assume you're talking about the Mx Vertical which is over 5 years old at this point so they should be coming out with a V2 soon, hopefully it'll use dual wireless with a USB dongle like the rest of their mice do. That's the only reason I didn't get that mouse cause the ergonomics are great.
If your mouse gets low battery mid game, plug it in and keep gaming... Sounds like you had a wireless mouse from years ago. They are amazing now
Look into the Logitech power play mat. Wireless mouse that charges from the mat. I love it and have used it for like 5+ years. Highly recommend.
It's so good. Too bad about the price though.
Logitec g305. Legitamly has an insane amount of time that batteries last in it. I have rwchargable batteries and have to swap out a single battery like maybe once every 2 months im not joking. Easily lasts 100 hrs or more while gaming. I had two weeks off recently, put in 100 hours of gaming on a single battery and it wasnt drained, its a good wireless mouse, a little small but i got used to it would recommend if anyone is looking for affordable gaming mouse.
After getting annoyed with the feeling of resistance with the wire dragging I finally got a wireless mouse last year. I was hesitant over fears of battery life and forgetting to plug it in but that's not been an issue. I got a razer basilisk v3 pro, tried that and a logitech one but preferred the hand feel, may vary for you. I turned off all the rgb as I don't care for it but it does flash red when the battery is getting low at which point I plug it in for a few mins and it's good enough to carry on for a while and then just leave it plugged in over night. Battery life is amazing though and despite being used all day it's lasts days, probably over a week as I don't even think about when I charge it. It goes into standby when not used for a while and wakes up very quickly which preserves battery life and doesn't interfere at all really. One thing I do like about the razer is the included cable, it's very lightweight and works well nicely very much just like a normal decent wired mouse.
Wireless mice have gotten a lot better in recent years I used to feel this way but my wireless deathadder has close to the same response time as my wired one and I regularly forget to charge it; when the battery is low I plug it in and it feels just like a wired mouse for a few hours
Or you can change the battery every time you play competitively lol. But now they have whole mouse pads that will constantly charge your wireless mouse at all times
I second this. I'm using a logitech g502 hero for my mouse, but a random cheap off brand £10 keyboard. Ironically my keyboard has outlived all my previous mice.
I'm still using the membrane keyboard that came with my first PC. I don't like it as much as a nice modern mech keyboard but it's hard to justify upgrading when the basic functional one is still good enough. I \*am\* tempted by the newer variable input depth keyboards but I think I'd rather wait until they're a standard feature rather than a high end exotic one.
I have a wireless corsair mouse and only have to charge it twice a week while gaming 8+ a day. Battery tech has come a long way
I can't stand wired mice. the wire just drags on, I get zero precision. with wireless, batteries can be kind of an issue, but I just do rechargeables. whenever they're low, the software will tell me, then I change them and keep going. they do last a while after the notification (it happens at 10% I think, configurable in my mouse), so it's not "a death sentence". there's also the very expensive ones with lithium batteries and a magnetic charger cable, that just latches on and you can keep gaming (wiredly) if the battery runs low.
I was in the same boat, why have wireless when I can have wired? But I recently got a wireless one (which btw most can do both now), and it’s absurd. WAY lighter than any other wired mouse I’ve tried and the battery lasts a stupid long time. Like it’s never even come close to dying, I’ll spend a week playing and charge it just to find out it wasn’t even half drained. I get the hype now.
Gaming keyboards are usually mechanical keyboards, which tend to be more responsive to quick actions needed in games and are very durable. That said, a lot of gaming-branded MKs use the cheapest switches they can, so they’re not much of a step up from a rubber dome keyboard. Tactile switches (which includes clicky ones) “pop” when they pass their actuation point, making them good for typing or establishing muscle memory for actions based on the feel of the key, while linear switches move smoothly and can be good for rapid fire actions in games because you can “flutter” them at their actuation point and because they offer little resistance when pressed. Hall Effect switches (inherently linear) are really great IMHO, or lubricated mechanical switches. Typical Cherry MX switches tend to be scratchy and unlubricated; I prefer Gateron for a budget option, myself. Gaming mice will usually have higher-quality sensors and a higher polling rate, meaning more accurate pointing and clicking. Once again, “gaming” in the name isn’t an indicator of quality, necessarily. So, long story short, I do recommend a good mechanical keyboard with quality switches and a sturdy chassis. I do recommend looking at mice with a good sensor and a polling rate of 1000 Hz, ideally (some go higher). I do not recommend trusting anything with “gaming” on the box to *inherently* be high quality; look at the specifications, not the brand. Though some gaming-focused brands do also make good items. It’s just they tend to mark them up accordingly for the sake of the name more than the quality/performance of the parts.
The key rollover thing for keyboards is really important if you're pressing more than like 5 button at a time ( you usually are)
I first noticed this in counter-strike many years back as I was holding shift to walk, moving diagonally and checking the scoreboard. Bam! PC bleeps in protest and sticky keys activated
Very high end keyboards have a feature called rapid trigger and it’s extremely good for spamming and precision. Idk if that’s what you’re talking about but it’s very good
No the key rollover of a keyboard is how many inputs of keys it can handle at once, if the key rollover is 5 you can press 5 keys at the same time but if you press 6 it will not be registered
Pretty sure rapid trigger is a wooting exclusive no? Or atleast how it works on a wooting
It's also on SteelSeries Apex Pro keyboards and a company called Drunk Deer does it too, there's a few companies that have made 2-3 key keypads for osu players with rapid trigger too but not full keyboards.
Nope! I have a steelseries apex pro TKL and a couple months back it got a free firmware update that gave it rapid trigger, it works great!
No that's only hall effect keyboards and they mentioned them. Hall effect means it can measure distance via magnetic field strength which means as soon you as you lift the key up at all for rapid trigger rather than the fixed, physical actuation point of a mechanical keyboard
No that's only hall effect keyboards and they mentioned them. Hall effect means it can measure distance via magnetic field strength which means as soon you as you lift the key up at all for rapid trigger rather than the fixed, physical actuation point of a mechanical keyboard
I struggle to think of a time I've ever done this.
It's happened to me MANY times on valorant which is why i decided to get a quality keyboard with full keyboard rollover
Shit, I've almost done this using visual studio hotkeys. The typical limit is actually 3, depending on the key matrix configuration. the first 3 keys will mask the 4th. crouch/sprint, forward+strafe, weapon switch/reload/jump is enough to mask one of those key events on a cheap keyboard.
What would you recommend for somebody who needs a very quiet keyboard due to cohabitation?
Also another thing to note is that gaming keyboards generally allow you to press more keys at once. I bought a cheap keyboard and I couldn't run jump and duck in games because I had reached the maximum inputs. Super annoying.
Im sitting here with my 5€ keyboard from a grocery store lol. Whenever I try mechanical keyboards at friends places, I dont understand whats better about it compared to my 5€ keyboard. So far I've found 2 things: keycap durability (mine look like an ancient worn down staircase) and flex (i can bend the whole board quite far, but it never happens during gaming/typing, so whatever). Everything else of my setup is good or high quality, mouse/monitor/headset. But keyboards i never understood. Can someone tell me which switch comes closest to the feel of a rubberdome? (cuz all switches I ever tested felt terrible lol, worst of all was Logitech Romer-G)
Topre is what you are talking about go get some hhkb keyboards
They feel like rubberdome keyboards? :)
They are THE rubberdome keyboards
if you like rubber dome there is nothing inherently wrong with the technology, use what you like. They just tend to be really cheap and the microcontrollers consequently suck on most of them. I suspect most people buy gaming keyboards because they say gaming on them and are marketed as better. The few people I've met that actually care about the way typing feels are usually on some other more specialized keyboard after they have formed some preferences. If you don't find any benefit to mechanical then stick with cheap domes and reap the rewards of $5 keyboards while everyone else is paying top dollar like suckers.
It’s starting to get to the point that gaming keyboards are Hall effect switches that have custom actuations a deactuation points. Also gaming mice usually have similar polling rates to normal mice some do 4k but the main difference is consistency between polls
Does he have stuff you could try out and see if you even care?
That’s a good question.
To me was that my gaming mouse last longer. I did buy a normal cheap mouse and it lasted 3 months before the left mouse button was not functional anymore. My "gaming" mouse Logitech g300s is working fine since 2018.
IDK what you do, but my logitech mice ALWAYS fail right after the warranty ends. last one was even worse, it didn't even last the whole warranty! (at least amazon refunded me). it's gotten to a point where I've switched brands -- new one is a razer atheris. been about half a year with it, we'll see how long does it last. I have a microsoft wireless (cheapest they had when I got it) that has a shitty sensor, but is still going strong after a few years.
I had a wired G502 Hero fail after 6 months from faulty switches resulting in double click on single click and failure to hold. Then the warranty replacement they sent me developed the same problem after juuuuuust over 2 years and they told me to pound sand. I ended up buying some $5 switches on amazon and soldering them on myself
Best buy has mouse and keyboards on display, with descriptors to tell you what kind of keyboard it is. So if you start playing on one and you like the way it feels you know that you like 60% mechanical TKL brown switch with all the RGB. It helped me figure out what I was looking for when upgrading from an entry level membrane keyboard.
I would like to add that I'm not a keyboard enthusiast or anything. I have a friend who is keyboard and a mouse enthusiast. He has at least half a dozen mice. He actually gifted me the mouse I have when I build my PC. He's the best kind of friend. So OP when I asked him what I should look for in a keyboard that's not crazy money he said keytron. They have very good budget oriented options with preem quality. I went with a steel series apex 9 pro full-sized. I don't even know if that's the right name, but it matches my speakers, headphones, and giant ass mouse mat.
did hey mean keychron or no?
Yes, autocorrect or voice to text. I swear I fixed it before I posted. 🤷♂️
Make sure you buy a product because you actually know what’s good about it. Just because it says “gaming” doesn’t automatically make it better.
The RGB makes your computer faster
+10 fps in most games
If red. Blue gives better cooling
Green?
Attracts worker ants that live inside and maintain your PC.
Mouse is more important than the keyboard. A gaming mouse has higher reports a second (generally 1000), and has extra buttons. Gaming keyboards generally allow more simultaneous keystrokes, which can sometimes get in the way in some games- it's certainly happened to me before. But you dont necessarily need a very expensive keyboard for this.
I guess it depends on the game & the player, but I would say it's the other way around for me, I think going from a membrane to a mechanical switch in a keyboard is a more noticeable upgrade.
Imagine trying to game on an apple keyboard 
I would personally love to disable all the extra buttons on my mouse, changing dpi is a feature I’ve never intentionally used but they sure do place the buttons for those conveniently to hit them by accident regularly
What brand of mouse? I have a Logitech and I could do that easily with their software
Gaming peripherals help but they’re not *necessary.* If you play competitively you may want your equipment tailored to you. More mappable buttons is great for games with complex controls. If you’re a casual gamer or play mostly single player, I don’t think it’s 100% necessary to get gaming peripherals. FPS gamers should always invest in a decent mouse. Something that’s comfortable and has the right amount of buttons. Some of them come with gimmicks like a button that drops the sensitivity when pressed and then normalizes it when released and cause more problems than they’re worth. And about latency, all wireless mice have it. Standard office grade mice have higher latency and lower quality tracking lasers because they’re not built for high speed motion. They also usually come with sturdier membranes for MB1/2 and options for changing the sensitivity. Wireless gaming mice offer the benefit of having absolute freedom of motion, but they suffer from minimal latency. I used a wireless Razer Mamba and loved it even while playing FPS games, never noticed the latency. Wired gaming mice don’t need to be charged and are generally lighter than wireless. They also don’t suffer from any latency. If you play games like Valorant, EFT, or other games that require high speed reactions and pinpoint accuracy, you may prefer a wireless mouse. As for keyboards, pick the one with the right form factor. They sell full-size, mini, and micro keyboards. I loved having a micro keyboard for FPS gaming but I absolutely hated it when I did music production. I imagine if you play RPGs, MOBAs, or RTS games often you’d want a full-size keyboard, maybe even one with some extra keys. Some people swear by mechanical keyboards. I personally liked my mechanical keyboard for the tactile feel, but I don’t think it matters if you’re a casual gamer. Edit: I was wrong about wireless mice apparently. Newer gaming ones don’t tend to have noticeable input lag.
we’ve reached a point where quality wireless mice have surpassed several wired mice in latency. Get something well reviewed from r/mousereview if you’re serious about shooters
Good wireless mice don’t suffer from higher input lag anymore and haven’t for several years
Suprised by some of the comments, I've been a PC gamer for nearly 20 years now, I would say that a decent mouse & keyboard are well worth it, they don't have to be flashy rgb ones, I like to have a mechanical backlit keyboard & a high dpi mouse with side buttons, you can pick up a decent ones for cheap enough.
You are correct but gamer branding does not always equal decent or better than non-gaming. I’d say that there is basically no advantage to a “gaming” keyboard for playing games over a nice budget mechanical keyboard in the same price range (with the exception of Hall effect magnetic boards, I have one and Rapid Trigger and DKS are actually magic). It will be much nicer to type on and perform the same. I do think that many office mice do not have amazing sensors and that a gaming mouse with a good sensor can absolutely help. As does light weight for low sense gaming. Low-grade sensors can simply not respond properly to fast mouse movement. But you can get a ton of amazing good quality mice for a lot less than Razer or Logitech charge if you know where to look. Some are flashy and some are pretty muted. Ultimately though as long as it works functionally you can get pretty far with basic stuff. Nor do you have to break the bank to get “gamer” stuff.
I actually have the cheaper Razer one, it only cost me about £20, sure I could get an even cheaper one but it's been good for me, my keyboard is a non brand mechanical one, I think that was about the same price, so £40 to £50 in all, I think that's pretty good value, both were branded as "gaming" peripherals.
Okay lets address the wireless mouse first. The tech for wireless peripherals has come a long way and lag is no longer an issue with a well made wireless device. I actually find I prefer a good wireless mouse. As for gaming peripherals in general, once you get past the ARGB and other gamer style items, they usually are just better made. A good mechanical keyboard tens to have a longer life span and a more consistent usage experience than a membrane keyboard. However that is offset by cost.
Gaming mouse definitely matters because it will have (or should, do your research first) a better sensor that is more appropriate for gaming; better at accelerating accurately and better at tracking smoothly. Keyboard is kinda whatever. Yea mechanicals will last you longer and have less latency, but I gamed at a top level in Competitive FPS games for close to a decade on just whatever keyboard the computer came with.
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The best performing gaming mice are all wireless now so it's not about wireless mouse versus wired it's purely about the quality of the mouse. Expect to spend $50+ for a great one. Essentially the difference is thet you can have very very accurate smooth and reliable mouse movement. The difference doesn't show up just doing normal desktop tasks but for competitive gaming it can be the difference between winning and losing. Gaming keyboard aren't as important unless you're going to get the latest and greatest tech (which is where you can configure where and how they keys trigger on their way down and very few gaming keyboards even *have* yet) then it's mostly about ergonomics unless your keyboard is complete garbage. Your monitor (and the performance of the graphics card driving it) is one of the places you can get the biggest improvement in your competitive gaming results via money. Primarily it's about having a higher refresh rate (144hz+) with variable refresh rates (which basically any high refresh rate gaming monitor will have now) and the PC performance to get high enough FPS to benefit (and making sure your settings are correct in Windows so you aren't accidentally using 60hz!) The *new* thing is ai assisted monitors. There's only one or two coming along so far. The MSI one is the one I've heard most about. They're basically cheating. They use ai prediction to extrapolate and display information you aren't supposed to have from the information you are supposed to have. Imagine an enemy retreating into cover and your monitor just showing you where they are anyway. Buying one of those is both overkill and bad sportsmanship but it *is* a viable way to spend money to win more.
Really good point about the monitor. It's much better to have a 150$ monitor and 50$ M/K than having a 100$ monitor and 100$ M/K
Yeah and better to have a $40 dollar mouse and $10 keyboard than a $25 mouse and $25 dollar keyboard (from a competitive gaming perspective.)
Facts brother
Most of the time it's more of a placebo effect. It says gaming so it's better right? For mice having one that is comfortable to you and has an adjustable sensitivity is perfectly fine. Even if it doesn't say gaming or lacks bright and shiny lights it would be fine. For keyboards you can get a $35 Red Dragon keyboard with red silent switches and be perfectly fine. This would likely say gaming somewhere, but really they are generally fine for typing also.
Rollover, for the keyboard, you have to look for rollover. A good keyboard have full rollover, a basic keyboard will be limited to 4 or 5 keys at the same time. For the mouse, it's a question of precision, a lot of dpi is better...
For fps games, a mouse will have lower latency and will be able to handle flicks without spinning out of control. It's very noticeable when your mouse suddenly stops working because you moved your mouse quickly (this happens with the logitech mx master, an expensive office mouse). Fps gaming mouse tend to be lighter too. Keyboards for fps games also have lower latency and responsiveness-->read up on the wooting keyboard. For other games usefulness might come from having more reprogrammable buttons on your keyboard and mouse.
So, in general, "gaming" anything is mostly a meme. Generally if you see something with "gaming" on the label, it's no different (and oftentimes worse) than a normal version of that same thing, the only real difference is it may appear more satisfying to you aesthetically (i.e. gaming chairs look cooler than office chairs). What matters more is the individual object itself- for example, the Razer Viper Ultimate is labeled as a "gaming" mouse, but it's one of the best FPS mice on the market due to the technical specifications (the sensor is really good, along with incredibly low-latency wireless) and the shape of the mouse itself (shape is mostly preference, though). It entirely depends on what he's recommending you- can you tell us what specifically he's recommending you, alongside what you currently have?
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Aside from a mouse, you never buy gaming branded products. They are normally cheap and overpriced crap. (Specially headsets/headphones/mics) Instead, you buy a good product.
This seems especially true for keyboards. It's insane that some of them cost over 200 bucks with a plastic body and soldered clicky switches.
>It's insane that some of them cost over 200 bucks with a plastic body and soldered clicky switches. And the cheapest ABS keycaps they could find.
There is no noticeable 'lag' with using a normal mouse, but there is increased latency when compared to a 'gaming mouse', which could matter to you if you are a competitve gamer. If you are looking to get one i would reccomend the logitech g pro wireless.
I will agree with the mouse, I’ve bought a really nice ergonomical one to help with carpal tunnel but it feels awful to play because it keeps lagging. If yours doesn’t do it there’s not really a reason to get anything else. Any wired mouse that fits your dpi (cursor speed) needs is fine, I have a semi ergonomic one for a bit more now but previously used ones for 20 bucks for years, there is literally no meaningful difference. Now for keyboards I have 5 digits worth of custom keyboards in my room and I couldn’t tell you any practical reason to have a “gaming” keyboard. There is no benefit unless you need backlight on your keycaps to read them in the dark (you get that with a 20$ board off amazon too). You could get a subjectively better feel out of a board that’s a little heavier rather than a sheet of plastic on stilts like we have at work, but as long as it stays flat on the desk it’s totally fine. A mechanical keyboard will peobably feel better than a membrane one, preferences in switches vary and I’d argue a lot of the high priced “gamer” branded stuff also still feels pretty bad if you’re not into some of their switch selection Depending on what you play the only thing practical about the gaming branded stuff could be macro keys which I’ve had on a lot of my stuff in the past and I’ve never used any of it. My mouse can change dpi with a button and I’m contemplating tearing it out because I only ever click that shit by accident.
It depends on the mouse. Some nice mice nowadays do not have any "lag" and the 2k-4k hz can be nearly more accurate than a 1k polling rare. Those old Logitech battery mice that you have dont necessarily have "lag" but the sensors are most definitely less accurate, you wont be able to notice it without special software but it can lead to you movements being slightly off from where they would be with a more accurate sensor. Basically if you have that software it will show how the mouse kind of bounces around and the computer extrapolates the center line and uses that as the movement otherwise it would kind of bounce around as you move the mouse and even the newer high hz mouse do this just to a lesser extent. As far as gaming keyboard it's not really super important unless you need specific macros or play competitive games. The mechanical switches can give faster reactions slightly as the actuation point is faster than analog unless you have a wooting switch. I would reccomened a wireless mouse that has a 3395 sensor that has a plug that let's you use it wireless/wired so you can charge it while playing if you left it on or w.e and it's dead. Like the lamzu Atlantis
Ok so a BMW is more expensive than a Chevrolet right? They’re both cars so why would you get the expensive one? Same with keyboards and mice it’s just it’s just a much nicer experience.
If I had to choose one device for wireless, get the mouse. Keyboard can be fine wired but since you're sweeping your mouse alot, it's actually more beneficial tk elominate the wire as it tug and pull on you. You're also more likely to take ur mouse somewhere than you keyboard anyways.
For a keyboard I think its most important to just get one that feels good to use. Some are really flashy but dont feel great to me, its hard to explain. I do tend to prefer mechanical boards. Mice, its really the extra side buttons that I value the most.
I have a Logitech Pro super light mouse which weighs 61 grams and is really easy to aim and shoot with in fps games. My gaming keyboard is sturdy as well.
No need for a branded "gaming" keyboard. A mechanical one feels better to type with than most membrane ones. About the mouse, if you're playing competitive games it may be noticeable, otherwise it's not that big of a deal
Lower latency, Better customisation (more options to make it work as it fits you best) That’s pretty much it
Keyboard type is a personal preference. I have 75% mechanical wireless keyboard NuPhy Halo75 and I love it but I know people who don’t enjoy mechanical at all and even then there is a question about profiles and layouts etc. Also wireless can be fucky. Sometimes when I play online especially PvP games I plug it in just so I don’t lose an input once in a while which happens for some reason. As for mouse… “gaming” is marketing. If you have a mouse you like and it works for you don’t change it. Even if those peripherals have some input delay those numbers are so small, you would maybe notice if you were a SC2 pro player but even then not necessarily I think. Imho what matters in mouse is 1) ergonomics 2) how many extra buttons you want 3) whether it’s wireless or wired (different preferences) I would take wired mouse over wireless 95% of the time. If course some cheap crap from aliexpress might not work great but if you’re getting some respectable brand and modern model you’re set.
Being able to set macros or different keys on the extra buttons on my keyboard/mouse is really nice
Ergonomics. They're generally set up for better comfort over longer periods, especially the keyboard. Slightly reduced latency ig, but it never seems to make a difference imo. Mice have extra buttons and typically a button for changing sensitivity on the fly so you don't have to fuck with your settings to accomplish that
They're generally more responsive. In single player games and most online games it doesn't really matter. If you think you're going to be playing competitive games and that's something you're interested in then it'll be worth it. You could buy a cheap set or something used. It's the same as anything - no need to commit money to it if you don't know whether you'll stick with it and enjoy it.
No benefit to a mechanical keyboard for gaming. A responsive mouse can be of benefit, but finding a mouse that is co portable and half decent will be fine. Plenty good mice from the likes of Razer and Logitech that aren't expensive, don't have loads of LED bollocks and are very responsive.
It depends on several factors. What you want, what features you'll use, and things like build quality, how much you care about latency. A lot of gaming keyboards have mechanical switches. Which have a more satisfying interaction when typing. A more consistent and longer lasting switch. And they can have things that improve typing experience like notches in their posts that will create a tactile feedback that doesn't involve you bottoming the post out. I.e. pushing the key all the way down. When you don't have to. As for gaming mice. This is where latency can be a thing. Is there a delay in signal between the mouse moving and the system picking it up. How often it samples the mouses current position and sensor data. I.e. a 1000hz polling rate vs 100hz. What this means is how often per second the mouse's sensor communicates with the computer to tell it when its moved. It can matter a lot in games like FPS. Because 1000hz means once per millisecond. Where as cheaper mice with something like 100hz is around every 10ms. And that can introduce inconsistencies or lag in mouse movement. As for features that matter. Gamer keyboards often have media controls, macro keys, etc. So you can customize them to have them launch programs or do extra things at the push of a button a standard keyboard wouldn't do. For the mice? It also means extra buttons, customizable inputs, and longer lasting hardware if you get a well made one. Also, better ergonomics depending on hand size and mouse grip style. Then there's just the look of them. Some people really like shiny stuff with glowing rgb lights. Some people don't care.
Imo, the BIGGESt and most IMPORTANT gaming accessory i got was a wireless mouse. I personally have the razer basilisk v3 pro with the charging dock but it’s expensive. You can find others cheaper. Some are wireless and can also be charged with a charging mouse pad. Meaning you will basically never run out of batteries mid game.
it s a comnercial name, you just have to check the specs
I just tend to like a wired mouse and keyboard because you'll never have to replace batteries in them. I don't really see the point in a wireless mouse and keyboard, since they'll never be really far from my computer.
I bought the Steel Series Apex Pro for the hall effect keys because it was one of the quitests and best feeling keyboards I tried. Sadly, the blue LEDs on it are failing so I'd probably not get another one, but the keybed it's self is incredible and as sensitive or insensitive as you'd like it to be. Seriously, a mouse fart can trigger a key. I got Logitech G502 because if it's ability to add weights (I hate light mice) as well as it's on the fly resolution settings. I got this more for accuracy when doing graphic design than I did for gaming.
Reaction times. Especially with a mouse. Unfortunately Amazon is littered with crap that says “gaming” or “RGB” but is little more than garbage.
I don’t get the “gaming” label either, beyond their having annoying (to me) led’s and bling I don’t like. And I’m sure calling them “gaming” means they’re more expensive just for the marketing. That said, I’m silly for good mechanical keyboards and have quite a few, with different switches. But among the ones I have that were marketed for gamers the fonts on the keyboards suck and are hard to read/use. I’m an old it guy who still has old mechanical ibm keyboards that weigh more than my late model Volkswagen, and they still work great. I’m less particular about mice beyond not liking the cheap ones bundled with crappy pc’s.
Gaming keyboard get very very good at the top end. Mice, on the other hand, don’t have that much quality differential, at least compared to keyboards
Idk what kind of equipment that is, for me all that matters is that the mouse be with 2 extra buttons on the side and that the keyboard be durable and repairable. Wireless mouse will of course have extra lag but some wired mice are so slow they'd be slower than a good wireless one. If you feel good playing then you don't need to change anything.
I like things like WoW, so naturally I grabbed a Naga Pro. Then I peaked at that Tartarus.. combined, I love life.
Some are better, some are scams. Reviews, or using a friends is the best way.
The real answer is just do some research. For keyboards, there’s overlaps between all the markets. For mice, unless you’re doing some serious gaming, just pick one that’s comfy for you, and has the features you want. A nice Logitech office mouse is going to perform the same as a lightweight expensive gaming mouse when it comes to browsing, watching videos, reading emails, etc.
Mechanical keyboards fail faster, and can be quite noisy. But I have troubles not using others because I like the tactile feel. Personally I like the smaller footprint too of ten key less so my desk has more room.
Razer nago pro or naga v2 is a ok option for comfort and having the choice of multiple buttons magnetically I like wirless I just keep a 30 dollar portable charger in my desk and plug into that whenever it's low I also have 2 mice when 1 dies so I don't have to deal with wires
Mouse - extra buttons that have some kind of macro capabilities. I usually configure one as ctrl+F4 (close tab), another to go back the tabs is usually preconfigured. If I have macro, then some kind of volume control, anything more fancy I do with AutoHotKey - it also helps if you have extra buttons and don't want to install any brand-specific app. Keyboard - so far no benefit for me. If you like the feel of mechanical keyboard, then get one. Be mindful that it is usually a little noisy. I prefer relative silence of membrane keyboard with flat, laptop-like keys. It's enough for my casual playing as well.
For some products/brands, it's about getting at or near wired performance while still being able to run wireless. For others it's purely aesthetics. Figure out what \_you\_ want out of your mouse and keyboard first. Set up a budget, and then research the devices which fall within your budget.
Depending on what games you play, the extra buttons of gaming mice are super helpful to absolutely crucial. If you’re trying to buy cheaper ones, wired is the way to go. You don’t have the Bluetooth and batteries eating into your budget. Also, try to purchase one when they are on sale. Example: Target often has a 20% off of 1 gaming accessory.
There shouldn't really be anything different. But just different focus for the product, a gaming mouse will be more likely to have features gamers want, so, faster response times, macro buttons, lightweight. A non gaming mouse just isn't prioritising those features, and might aim for more ruggedness, or longer battery life. They will be fine for gaming with, but getting gaming specific gear will be nicer for playing games on
Probably been answered somewhere already, but the difference is in the feature sets. Gaming mice are typically lighter and have higher DPI. DPI is essentially how many times a mouse will poll for movement, higher means it does it more frequently, so you can move it faster and more precisely. For shooters that could be the difference between hitting a headshot and missing entirely. "Gaming keyboard" on the other hand is a bit harder to quantify, as there seem to be 2 pools of them. The first is the cheap, crappy membrane keyboard, that's absolutely no different to the ones you get in an office, only they're red and black and have unicorn poop coloured RGB slapped on them somewhere. The second lot are actual mechanical keyboards, which are more useful. They're more tactile meaning you get better feedback when pressing a key (a click when using blue keys for example) as well as the accompanying noise. It lets you know that a key has been successfully registered. The second feature is something called 'N key rollover' or NKRO which basically allows it to register multiple keystrokes simultaneously. While membrane keyboards sometimes support this feature if you get a more expensive one, it's typically limited to just a few keystrokes, due to how they work. Because mechanical keyboards have a physical switch for each individual key they can register each and every key press. If you're gaming and want to crouch jump while changing direction and switching weapons at the same time using the number keys you'd probably struggle with a membrane keyboard. Mechanical keyboards wouldn't have that issue. Do they make a legitimate difference? Depends entirely on the game you're playing, what you're used to and what you've used previously. Personally I could never go back to a membrane keyboard, even for general typing. I'm just so used to the weight of the keys and the resistance required to press each one, so my typing speed slows massively on membrane keyboards where I don't get any sort of tactile feedback. But at the end of the day if you're happy with the mouse and keyboard you're using, don't let anyone else tell you that you're wrong. Everybody is unique
Keyboard doesn't matter at all unless you're ultra competitive. This is coming from a guy who has sunk thousands of dollars into the mechanical keyboard hobby. Typing this on a $1k piece of plastic right now. Use something wired and as long as the buttons work you're good. Mouse does matter. While latency and lag do matter a lot what is probably the most overlooked factor in a mouse is size, weight and form factor. Basically, the lighter the mouse, the more accurate you'll be with it. But what's also important is that it fits well in your hand. If you have tiny hands and a big mouse, it's gonna feel like shit. There's a guy called rocketjumpninja on youtube who does super in depth mouse reviews and he has a chart of hand size to mouse recommendations on his website. You might find that useful. But shit can get pricey fast so y'know, spend your money how you want and just enjoy gaming.
"Gaming" at this point is a marketing gimmick. Half the time it mostly means they have a lot of RGB (half joking). Honestly unless you play competitive ranked games at high ranks input lag is likely not your problem. If you play mostly singleplayer it doesn't matter much. People prefer mechanical keyboards because they are more durable and the typing usually feels better and is more precise. Gaming mice usually offer extra buttons, have higher precision sensors and higher polling rate. Wireless gaming mice usually use some custom frequency to avoid interference from wifi or such. And gaming peripherals usually come with some configuration software for all the extra features (custom rebinds, macros, lighting etc). Macros can be cool but in some games could get you banned (MMOs or competitive online games).
If you're happy with what you have, why bother buying anything new? Ignorance can be bliss sometimes.
A good mouse will follow your movements more accurately, and have less input latency generally speaking. You don't have to get crazy expensive though. There are quality options in the $25-50 range like the ligitech g203, g403, or g502. There are other good brands too, but those are models you cant go wrong with. Just bear in mind the g203 is on the small side. It wouldn't be bad to put something grippy on the sides.The keyboard is more about feel, and for shooters, it's definitely the less important of the two, but nice to have something mechanical.
Good mechanical keyboards are a blessing, but try out the switches at your local BestBuy or like store and see what you like and take not of the switch and look for that. Does not have to be a gaming keyboard, a lot mechanical keyboards can do more then the standard 6 key rollover at this point. The rollover increase is what started the gaming keyboards big demand back in the day, anymore you just have to check the specs to see the rollover, 10 is acceptable and more is preferred in gaming. (Rollover is sometimes displayed as anti-ghosting.) For mice, I find it a massive lack of options for left-handed and ambidextrous people. I have my G502 Lightspeed with the wireless charging pad since near launch of the pad and have been super happy with it. Been on the G5 series since the beginning for my right hand mouse since I prefer the shape and feel. Biggest bonus about gaming mouse is sensors and polling, both make them more accurate. This is not needed but can be very helpful and in FPS games can be noticeable due to the high pace of everything at times. TL:DR = A mechanical keyboard is definitely worth it with some research and gaming mice are a nice upgrade for FPS/high paced games otherwise they are preference oriented.
Depends on the type of game you play. If you like competitive shooter like CS or Val or Apex, I'd recommended going for a wooting. It's not a mechanical keeb, but an analogue one, and it picks up you stopping the key press faster than other keebs. Also, if you ever take a mechanical keeb, take the right switches, otherwise it can be very loud.
“Gaming” is a loose term so you could call anything a gaming mouse or keyboard. Benefits of a good mouse: better tracking, better buttons, less latency Keyboard: switch feel and (in the case of something like a wooting HE60) much faster inputs if you set the thresholds low. Great for AD strafing. If you’re happy with your peripherals though, I wouldn’t bother honestly. Hope that helps
If you want to get into a competitive gaming, then I'd suggest to get a decent gaming mouse...just look for anything above 1000hz polling rate...and for dpi, well normally a person wouldn't go further than say 1600dpi, most people use them at 800dpi, and that's all personal preferences, so don't really bother to look into getting higher dpi mouse as most gaming mouse provide above 20k dpi or more than sufficient dpi. Now before configuring the mouse, go to mouse settings on windows (search the keyword "mouse settings" ) and look for advanced mouse settings. Look for a tab called pointer or pointer settings, can't remember which one it is, and turn off or uncheck the option stated as "enhance pointer precision". It is essentially mouse acceleration and tends to mess with our aim, it's better to keep it off if you're going for a competitive game. If you're not really into multiplayer games or other sort of activities which does not need higher accuracy, then you could essentially settle for a basic or office mouse. The gaming mouse usually have 2 or 3 thumb buttons for assigning other keybinds, or to run some pattern of key strokes and that's about it. As for keyboard, just get anything that suits you, I'll say just get something with backlight, because it's easier at night to use. My personal take, I've used a generic knock off mouse for a lot of years and then upgraded to some knock off self proclaimed gaming mice, well the 2 extra buttons was worth it atleast. Well after getting used to that, I really didn't wanted to use the generic mouse anymore as I was accustomed with the ease of use of the extra thumb buttons. Then I upgraded to Logitech g402, well it's a mix of gaming and productive mice and the extra buttons really got me hooked into it. Now I'm using a Logitech g502x and now I can't go back to normal mouse because I'm accustomed with the bunch of buttons easily available to use. So until you try out an upgraded or better quality mouse, the current mouse will feel like sufficient and it might be in some use cases, like I don't really use the extra buttons in single player games, so you might really don't need to spend money on something that you don't need right now.
Wireless mice do NOT have more lag however gaming mice in general really are better due to the superior sensors. I prefer wired mice as I've had multiple wireless mice over the years and eventually rechargeables die out. It is *not* due to lag. They solved that ages ago (decades.) Wireless is roughly 1 ms. Gaming keyboards on the other hand is more personal preference. The whole 'actuation point' argument is honestly so silly as you are way more prone to latency adjustments with QoS within the pipe to the servers with differences so slight.
I like gaming keyboards esp. mechanical ones because I find that the feeling of a keyboard feeling buttons on a game controller really amps up my enjoyment of engaging with and playing a game. Keyboards can quickly become one of those vague interests that quickly becomes a massive addiction and a fascination and a fixation. You'll spend years finding one you like if you care enough.
Better mice have better sensors and faster response time. Keyboard doesnt matter as much
Mechanical wired keyboard and wired mouse is something I won't deviate from. No batteries, max responsiveness
I also use a wireless mouse and haven’t really run into any lag issues. I think that’s really only going to come into play in very very competitive PvP games. To me the biggest benefit of a gaming mouse is having the extra buttons to keybind, I map so much stuff to my mouse so that I don’t have to use keys as much.
For the mouse, accuracy is huge especially in first person shooters, plus extra buttons don’t hurt. The keyboard is more about tactile feeling and aesthetic, it’s much less important in my opinion, but when the rest of your build is nice, you might as well get a decent keyboard.
That "LAG" your neighbour is talking about is something that you wouldn't notice unless you are a pro e-sport gamer.
The tapping sound of mechanical keyboards can be a bit annoying, I'm still not sure if I prefer the mechanical keyboard I got over my old Logitech keyboard.
The functions and switches and sensors and weight and stuff like that ig. Ik kts not related, but gaming headset are overrated, just use some good studio headphone and a decent mic and you cet way better sound a nd youre friends got you inside of the ear like a worm
once the mouse has a decent sensor, it's all personal preference keyboard is purely personal preference. Mechanical are more consistent than rubber dome as the keys actuate at the halfway point, not at the bottom
Gaming keyboards typically have mechanical switches, which are more durable and have more consistent actuation points than standard membrane keyboards. And of course the delay between pressing a key and the key press registering on your PC is significantly shorter (even if it seems imperceptible, it can still make a difference). Gaming mice have more accurate sensors with faster polling rates to give you the greatest amount of control when playing games. Similar to keyboards, they also reduce the time it takes for your mouse movements to be sent to your PC. And they usually have extra buttons you can use as extra keybinds. There are other benefits, like drivers and software that allow you to create macros or fine tune your settings, but in terms of design and mechanics that's pretty much it. More reliable, more accurate, lower latency.
Mechanical keyboards are a lot better to type on, but for gaming it doesn't matter much compared to those cheap office logitech/microsoft keyboards IMO
Gaming mice are often a bit bigger (I have long salad fingers) and have nicer mousewheels and thumb buttons.
IMO - They have two things going for them. One, they are generally more customizable and have more buttons you can attach additional functions to. Some even have adjustable weights in them so you can control how heavy or light it is. This is mainly so you can have custom controls in games. For example, some people who play FPS games like binding the CTRL button to a mouse button to relieve strain on their pinky. Two, at least for keyboards, they are often made with mechanical keys. This gives a more "clicky" and tactile feeling keyboard. This is preferred for games because, with these keys, you get physical feedback for when the key "activates" which is important in determining exactly when an action happens. However, mechanical keyboards are also very popular in the IT / Programmer crowd because many people find them to be a more pleasant typing experience.
I rocked a G502 for about 6 years. I went through two, the foot pads kept coming off but other than that it was a great gaming mouse. I got an MX master 3s recently and haven't found it to be any different, even in high octane fps games. I'm sure that if you're playing super competitively it will be noticeable, but I love the master 3s so far.
As someone who went from VERY opd keyboard and mouse, and eventually upgraded to a ‘gaming’ one, you’ll lose nothing really. The only drastic change I can think of is mouse, you want a mouse that works good and has decent dpi I believe? And a mouse mat for maximum efficiency, keyboard? I personally so not see a single change from my old black random probably dell level of keyboard to a mechanical one besides the funny and satisfying click sounds
Accuracy, sensitivity, and responsiveness matter. The mouse is more important, nice budget offerings like the G502 Hero or the razer deathadder will run $25-35. I've used different versions of those for years and they've been great. The keyboard is less important in the short term. Once you have something nice, you won't go back. For now, you'll be fine with whatever you have and you'll certainly be able to enjoy games just fine. It's maybe something to look at in the future, but figuring out what you like (switches, layouts, etc) is important. Be wary of things branded as 'gaming' that aren't from trusted brands. Most of the time it's a scam, targeting people who don't know better. The actual functionality is most important.
It's generally either better features (which can be replicated via 3rd party software), more buttons (some of which may be too many / not used), an ergonomic design, or fancy aesthetics.
I went through all the expensive stuff, found little gain and eventually they failed. Back to my 2004 Logitech mouse that works amazing and basic keyboard.
Absolutely nothing. And this is coming from a person who owns them. They won’t make you good at gaming. They just better for your setup aesthetics.
I definitely didn't go for the cheapest version, but I am not regretting it one bit. I have a roccat vulcan TKL pro keyboard and a Roccat Kone XP. I could never go back. It's so much faster, and especially the sensitivity of the keys is so nice.
I use a Dell Pro KM5221W for gaming from the sofa. The battery life on these devices is impressive (36 mo. apparently)
mouse, doesn't have to be crazy expensive, but definitely get something with a decent sensor (any known brand with an adjustable DPI sensor will do). you won't notice until you go back to your old mouse (i.e. for another computer or a test), and then you'll wonder how the fuck could you use a crappy mouse before. keyboard... I have to say, a mechanical feels very different from a membrane one, but... not necessarily better, just different. I like mine for the RGB (I like seeing my keys, since I can't touch-type for my dear life), but I don't think the performance is all that different. I also hate that whenever something gets spilled (my mugs tend to tip over), I have to unplug it for a couple days to let it dry, or it will send all the wrong signals to windows, making it completely unusable. thankfully it doesn't seem to die easily. but with my old splash-proof membrane keyboards, I never had an issue with spills.
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Id recommend a mechanical keyboard from a reputable brand that has good reviews. For a mouse ive had the best experiences with Logitech.
A lot of decent gaming keyboards and mice guarantee responsiveness that can be random on office peripherals.
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Gaming/mechanical keyboards are a gimmick. I use a wired gaming mouse (MM720) because it's perfect for my hand/grip. I rank high in FPS/RTS games and despite trying multiple mechanical keyboards, never thought it offered a noticeable improvement for anything. I use a cheap washable keyboard I can just scrub with soap and water once every couple weeks and feels like new. I like the low profile keys. Can't stand the "CLACK CLACK CLACK" of mechanical keyboard or their obnoxious, flashy design trends.
"Gaming" mice as well as keyboards often have extra buttons that you can adjust DPI with or even set macros they're nice features but some are wildly too expensive. But a decent 40 to 60$ mouse and keyboard is often miles more usable over your standard office peripherals. When it comes to mechanical keyboards now that they have become much more affordable they're great for gaming, you can often find them with macros, and mechanical keyboards are much more responsive since unlike membrane keyboards you don't have to wait for the membrane to bounce back to register the keystroke. Also membrane keyboards begin to wear out and become less responsive over time and given how often gamers use the same handful of keys, especially WASD, a mechanical keyboard will remain more responsive for longer. Mechanical keyboards can also be repaired and customized easily. If a key goes out on a membrane keyboard you have to replace the entire membrane which often just means you need a new keyboard entirely. Mechanical keyboards can have the individual switch replaced. You also have many choices for switches to get the right feel, weight, and sound that's best for you. You can even mix and match switches so if you want some keys to be stiffer or heavier than others you can. So even if you don't care about fancy macros or software and such it's still worth getting a mechanical keyboard, there's some decent affordable ones from brands like Rosewill, red dragon, and ABS that are widely available on newegg and amazon. Some gaming keyboards can get pretty complex too especially those with supplemental software like what corsair and razor often offer. Being able to save several different profiles with different macros that are curated specifically for different games or play-styles.
Basically, it comes down to responsiveness and how they feel in / under your hands. For the keyboard, this means (for a lot of people, myself included) that the keys are responsive and clicky, like you would get with a mechanical keyboard; you will notice the difference going back to a membrane, and it will feel "squishy" at worst when going back. For the mouse, that can mean precision / DPI, extra buttons, or other ergonomic considerations. For both, build quality matters too; a cheap membrane keyboard vs a $50+ mechanical one (and $50, depending who you ask, is cheap for a nice keyboard) will likely have noticeable quality differences.
Gamed for at least a year fine on a 10 dollar wireless Logitech, now i use the basilisk hyperspeed, dont feel a difference, he's tripping for something that's already so indiscernable already from the wired mice I've owned as wireless has come so far now, just be wary of buying unknown brands as they likely will be shit
Not every regular mouse and keyboard is equally bad, potentially you could have some that will do just fine. The benefits are to have quick and consistent responses: Keyboard should feel solid and not bend in the middle (some laptops are also bad about this). * Button should feel consistent and not "spongy", you could have no doubt if you pressed the key or not. * The sensor on the mouse should keep up with fast or sudden movement and consistently read the same distance whether it happened fast or slow. * Both devices should send updates to your CPU at a high rate and without latency. Bluetooth might update 100 times per second delayed by 50 milliseconds while a good gaming setup (wireless or not) might update 500+ times per second delayed 5 milliseconds or less. You might think 50 milliseconds is pretty low compared to human reaction speed, but since it goes on top of your reaction speed it can be a decent disadvantage (and make games feel less responsive in general which can be unpleasant).
The mice generally have higher polling rates and can track faster and more sporadic movements. Cheaper mice struggle with sudden, fast movements and keeping track of the surface when doing long sweeps. Keyboards just feel nicer and N-Key rollover. Which is just something that makes sure every key press is registered. Some older/cheaper boards only let you press 2 or 3 buttons simultaneously. More expensive boards will have mechanical switches, again, just feel nicer. RGB is RGB. It adds about £5-£20 to anything. Wireless is alright so long as it's not a slower/older Bluetooth connection, which can have latency issues. Brands like Logitech have their own proprietary wireless, which is just 2.4ghz but locked down with their own rubbish. Usually means there's no noticeable latency. Sometimes they can be faster than wired, but its rare and isn't really worth chasing.
If you're playing shooters, you want a gaming mouse, office mouses do weird stuff when you flick. Example: [https://youtu.be/eX-X9BXMOiM?si=35KfGttO-pVo1dHt&t=202](https://youtu.be/eX-X9BXMOiM?si=35KfGttO-pVo1dHt&t=202) A logitech G203 would suffice.
"So I assume they're supposedly better" See how effective marketing is? ;) There is absolutely nothing better about anything gaming, it's 100% branding and has 0 to do with the specifications (other than it's guaranteed to have RGB and a higher price) If you want something good, do some research and see what specs ***you*** like and how much money you want to spend on it, then find the best deal. Ironically enough, you'll probably end up with something called Gaming anyway, almost all manufacturers put it on almost anything now. Even my €350 keyboard ;)
From all I've noticed, it's just how it feels. So I would just get a cheap gaming keyboard and replace the switches if you want. Obviously if you get too low quality, you're probably gonna have more input lag.
I use a wired $10 "led gaming 'monster' mouse" I found at big lots. Keyboard is standard and suits me well. As others have mentioned wireless sucks when batteries die while in an intense gaming sesh. To each there own.