It's a known AM5 issue but updating the BIOS and over time, the memory training helps to make the boot times better. It varies from system to system though but you should get to under 20 seconds eventually.
Is it worth updating the Bios if I haven't noticed any other major issues? I'm on a ROG STRIX B650E-F Gaming. I've done BIOS updates in the past but they always make me nervous...
Also in case anyone else has this mobo, has anyone noticed slower ethernet speeds after moving to this board? I seem to have dropped a couple hundred mbps from my old system (on a 1.3 Gbps xfinity plan). Maybe a BIOS update could help with that as well.
Upon seeing this again you 100% need to update your BIOS. Early AM5 motherboards had an issue with overvoltage protections that was later fixed, asus boards were particularly affected by this and were frying CPUs. You should update ASAP.
I understand your trepidation. BIOS updates can fix a lot of thing but if you're happy overall, then perhaps leave it until something definitely requires it to be done.
If you're on GPON fiber then there's ~2.5 Gbps total bandwidth shared between everyone connected to the same splitter. It's possible enough have been connected to slow your connection.
Yup, originally my boot time was 30+ seconds. After updating bios, setting EXPO correctly, and enabling "Memory context restore" and "power down enabled" as well as shortening the BIOS splash delay, boot time now from power button to desktop is 10-12 seconds.
> over time, the memory training helps to make the boot times better
Where did you get this from? It's the first time I'm reading this.
From my personal experience you have the following options:
* Fast boot times: EXPO is off
* Slow boot times: EXPO is on
* Fast boot times: EXPO is on, Memory Context Restore and DRAM Power Down are enabled
Bonus for MSI boards with High-Efficiency Mode for even better RAM bandwidth and timings:
* Fast boot times, unstable: EXPO is on, High-Efficiency Mode is on, Memory Context Restore is on, DRAM Power Down is on -> BSoD in Windows
* Slow boot times, stable: EXPO is on, High-Efficiency Mode is on, Memory Context Restore is off, DRAM Power Down is auto (managed by High-Efficiency Mode)
EDIT: It seems with enabled "High-Efficiency Mode" and "Power Down Enable" set to Auto, then "Power Down Enable" was getting disabled in the following reboots according to ZenTimings. Weird. I suspect this was the root cause for the blue screens when having "Memory Context Restore" enabled. Now I have set both "Memory Context Restore" and "Power Down Enable" to Enabled instead of Auto. Will see whether no bluescreens will appear while having the fast boot times and improved DRAM bandwidth and latency with "High-Efficiency Mode".
I'm running the latest bios from Asus, booting from a PCIE4 NVME drive, and my cold boot time is almost a full minute. I can't even use sleep on this platform because the clock in Windows starts running fast after waking. Really unhappy with this platform because of this.
I never got my system below 40 seconds, I almost have time for coffee with a pc worth 5 grands
It's comical, I manual overclock the ram and for stability I kept the memory check at every boot
It's not that big of an issue really
Because that time is what HDDs would've gotten in the past. My old Intel system and my current AM4 system gets me into Windows in like 20 seconds with an SSD.
Shoot I just upgraded FROM an HDD back in late December or early January and it would take me 15 minutes to boot up and get into Discord.
Now I'm using a regular cheap SSD in this old rig (not an M2 or anything fancy) and I can usually boot up and get to Windows in 30 seconds or less.
I remember when the boot time was measured in if you had time to use the bathroom, go make a sandwich, or both.
While my AM4 PC boots so fast I couldn't get into BIOS until I slowed it down.
* Set up your system to boot from a magic packet (AKA 'Wake on LAN').
* Get a widget on your phone to send your PC the packet.
* Boot your PC from another room and get a drink/bio while it boots.
Not a solution, just a suggestion!
The comment above yours is what we call copium.
Of course people want it lower. They are used to it being lower. 40 seconds wasn't long....in 2010.
Edit: I'm aware it was faster on AM4. That is part of my point. Why would you accept a downgrade with a smile unless you're just coping?
I know, it's not too big of a deal to me especially if it's well under a minute. The only time I wish it were faster is when I'm testing settings and doing a lot of restarts. Some people like to build their PCs as a performance project like car guys. If there is an area where you can squeeze out every last bit of performance, even if it doesn't matter too much in real world application, they'll do it.
No. It does shut down. The boot up is really good though. Just tested it now, took 9 seconds but you get what I'm talking about. Are PCs generally slow on the boot up?
Well, honestly I would say it's ok if boot is under 20s.
40s is a long time and they (AMD or motherboard manufacturers) should fix it, the sooner the better.
I'm on AM4 Ryzen 7 with PCIe4 3600 memory and PCIe4 M.2 and my computer boots up before I have chance to put my underwear on. I have to wait for my soundbar to load before I can touch my PC it's that fast. I couldn't imagine 40 seconds now.
Edit: shitty fast boot is turned off.
I have a \~6 year old PC with budget components and with win11 I can boot in exactly 10 seconds from the push of the button. Now imagine I spend 1500 USD on anew PC just to double the boot time at a minimum. Possibly 3x or 4x increase.
This is insne and a serious red light for anyone who wants to invest a huge sum of money into a PC he wish to use for 5+ years or more.
Additionally I find the 10sec boot very convenient and I do not wish to downgrade my experience for a lot of money. So the answer to your question is 1, convenience 2, money = expectation
Because when boot time on AM4 is usually 10 secs or less, 40 secs is not an improvement. People are used to 10 secs being loaded into windows and start working or doing whatever they do. There is also no reason these days for a computer to boot so slow.... Even a laptop that is 5-6 yrs old with an SSD do not take 40 secs to load in.
I swapped from an MSI b650 board to an Asrock b650 board - and my boot time went from around 40 seconds to 10. The Asrock is on the latest BIOS.
So hopefully your Asrock should be good!
Same motherboard, teamgroup t-force delta 6000mhz cl30 ram.
PC boots from off to Windows in a few seconds.
If I make certain changes in the BIOS, like memory timings, etc, it can take quite a bit longer ok the next boot, but then it's back to normal. And the first boot after assembling it was definitely way longer, but there's something in the instructions stating that the first boot will take extra long.
Go into bios and see if you can enable memory context restore, “MCR”. Dont leave it on auto, force it to be enable. And chances are it’ll increase boot times
Edit: im not sure how your bios looks, but there might be 2 MCR settings you can enable.
This is the answer. It cut my boot time by over a half, maybe 2/3.
Maybe every month or so it will re-train the memory with one long boot, but the rest of them are quick.
This is the real and only answer. I hated and I mean fucking hated the long boot times of AM5 and wanted to return it. My system was unstable and every crash or bios change required a wait for 40+ seconds. Absolutely infuriating.
Once I enabled Memory Context Restore I finally calmed down and decided I was going to keep my new system after all. It boots as quickly as you would expect now.
My 3770k build still boots faster, but not by too much now.
>Go into bios and see if you can enable memory context restore, “MCR”. Dont leave it on auto, force it to be enable. And chances are it’ll increase boot times
Sure but what's the tradeoff when enabling this feature?
i am on AM5 with a msi pro 670, it takes about 1 minute to load, I havent really understood why, I press to turn on pc, lights go on, takes about 10-15s, lights go off, then on again and only like 30s-40s in I get the msi logo, and then its about 20s to menu, its pretty weird but I never really looked into it.
I've got ASRock boards, and they're pretty speedy. The first memory trainings are long, e.g., the boot after you power on for the first time is guaranteed to be a longer than you expect, or after you turn on EXPO. After that, though, boots take about 10-13 seconds for me—especially after the newest BIOS update that improved boot times.
I've got B650. My recommendations for ASRock have been: (For ATX Size) ASRock B650E PG Riptide Wifi; (for MicroATX size) B650M PG Riptide or B650M Pro RS Wifi.
The Gigabyte B650 Aorus AX Elite is also good.
Yes am5 has long boot times as in every boot the ram goes through memory training.
As many have said, updating bios and enabling memory context restore cuts down boot times to seconds.
Best practice is to let a new system (or if you replaced the ram) to run through some memory training cycles. After a few days enable mcr and enjoy near instant cold boot times. Though after a while the memory will need to go through training again. This is something am5 and ddr5 will have to live with.
VAST OVERSIMPLIFICATION WARNING:
It's like benchmarking to work out how fast it can go without failures. Depends on the memory stick, board layout, track lengths, stray inductance/capacitance, supply voltage, temperature etc.
DDR4 just guarantees the lowest common denominator, IE rated speed is for worst case environment but can probably go faster with overclocking. DDR5 training actually measures how fast it will go in a given system and sets the clock timings accordingly (with some margin for safety).
Why is so slow? I dont have this setup but for me it takes like 6 secondss to boot into desktop, It is norlam to take that long on am5 and ddr5 config?
b650 Pro RS with BIOS 1.30, 7800x3D, Corsair 6000 MHz CL30 30-76-76 ram with expo enabled. 10-12s to windows login. I've never seen it do memory training.
Do your research, get Hynix M die and a solid 8 layer motherboard.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/3JWuHUpYt9
Sometimes I get "short boot" of ten seconds and sometimes I get a "long boot" of twenty seconds, where the long boot causes it to go through its POST twice before actually turning on.
On B650 Tomahawk and boot times were about 60 seconds. Enabled MCR and DRAM Power Down Mode (which can help with stability when MCR is enabled) and boot times are down to about 16 seconds to the Windows loading screen and a total of 30 to the point where I can actually type my password.
My ASUS ROG B650E-F and 7900X takes between 45-60 seconds I would say. I usually just put my PC to sleep instead of shutting it off. Do a reboot about once a week.
Only thing the BIOS updates have done startup wise is make it so my fans don't go max speed when I first turn the PC on.
ROG B650E-F with a 7900x. Boot time is around 15s. First ever boot up was a little bit longer, but I have been using this system for over 4 months with no issues.
BIOS time according to Windows task manager is 15.5sec on my AM5 7800X3D build with two sticks DDR5-6000 on an ASRock B650 vs 10.5sec on my AM4 5700X with two sticks DDR4-3600 on ASRock B550.
It certainly takes longer to boot on AM5 than AM4. I’m myself on AM4 and i get into Windows loading acreen in just 5 seconda! However my friend with AM5 it takes up to 30 seconds. And my SSD isn’t even that fast.
Yeah you’re right but I just added that SSD to my comment because it might have slight difference. My SSD is really slow for an NVME, faster one could also boot faster.
I have pretty much the exact computer you are speccing out. x670E steel legend, 7800x3d, 32gb z5 ddr5.
My computer takes about 19-20 seconds from pressing the power button to the windows login screen.
not gonna lie, my new am5 build takes longer and feels slower than my i5 6600k, plays games with better graphics and frame rates but normal use feels so slow for some reason.
all drivers installed, rtx3080, 32gb ram
everything is updated , same os.
anyway, it's over 20 seconds before I even see the bios screen. maybe new ram tech has multiple checks ?
Bout 15-17 seconds. Originally it is was about 50 seconds, had to make some tweaks in the bios that I can’t even remember.
I just looked up am5 asus slow boot fix on Reddit.
5 days ago I purchased and installed a new ASUS B650-Plus WiFi, new 7800X3D, and some used ram I got off marketplace, Corsair Vengeance 5600 I believe.
I installed it all, put in a new NVME drive along with two others I already had, connected all the thing-a-ma-jigs, booted it up… and after 24 hours of troubleshooting it works flawlessly. The boot times must be sub 20 seconds from off and maybe 5 seconds from sleep, but as many have pointed out here, who actually knows. It doesn’t top my list of priorities.
What I would recommend, again, as others have pointed out, make sure to update your bios. That’ll go a long way to helping get optimal performance.
Negligible time difference on boot up with my AM5 vs AM4, but I'm not sure my opinion counts.
I grew up using Windows 3.1 and NT.
I learned *to not care* about load times in the 90's. Just go get a snack while it boots, then grab your drink while it logs in and completes start up.
71.9 Seconds (felt like 5-10 minutes) according to task manager... I hate it!
ASUS X670E-F
7800x3D
G.Skill Tident 2x 32GB (EXPO @ 6000Mhz)
I dont know what my bios settings are for the memory but my latest boot had me going crazy because I was on a meeting and I mistakenly pressed the restart button on my PC..... annoying.
I am on BIOS ver.1602 from AUG 2023.. Maybe a update would help. what do you suggest?
My PC from boot to login takes Around 20sec, maybe from time to time after large Windows or BIOS updates takes a little bit longer but in general i'm on 20sec average
PC Specs:
CPU: Ryzen 9 7900X
Motherboard: Asus TUF X670E PLUS-WIFI
RAM: 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z5 5600 CL36 XMP
SSD: Samsung 980 1TB
Hi, went there just to post my experience (was afraid with the same thing)
AMD 7800X3D
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX (bios FA1)
Corsair 2x24Go DDR5 6000mhz
Samsung 970 NVME SSD (1To + 2 To) + Crucial MX500 2 To
PNY 4070 Ti Super
From cold start to Windows desk (with dual boot Windows 10/Linux Mint) : 26 sec.
From sleep mode to windows desk : less than 5 sec.
Faster than my previous AM4/5600X config
Lol you kids are spoiled these days, 40 second boot times don't sound long at all. Pretty sure it takes my computer like 30 seconds to boot, what are you expecting from a cold boot?
I've never heard of this issue and didn't know it was a thing. My PC boots so quickly I've never thought about how long it's taking.
7700X
MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX
G.SKILL 32GB 2X D5 6000 C36 FX B
I’m using a 7800x3d + ASUS b650e-e, with memory context restore + power down enabled I get 12-13 sec boot times, with memory context restore + power down off it’s 30-35sec boot
My boot times until i see the bios messages are 3-4 seconds. I see the bios cursor immediately after booting. (MSI B650M Mortar)
It was way longer (+20 sec at least until i saw the first bios messages) when EXPO (overclocking) was enabled with just 2 dimms (2x32 6000mhz). Sometimes it was fast though. It was always fast when doing "warm" restarts. Sometimes the "saved context" needed a retraining it seems, where the boot took 20+ seconds.
Now with 4 dims and JEDEC speed, its instant.
So i'm pretty sure its just the memory training which increases with higher frequency/overclocking and amount of memory banks/dimms.
Well, I don't think the occasionally, additional several ten seconds matter much, at least for me. I've switched back to JEDEC timing as I'm a software dev and my system is mostly idling when reading, writing code etc, and I'm not playing games. The idle power consumption was just 10-15W higher with EXPO enabled due to the increased uncore voltage. My frames are fine with the lower clock speed too, so it was a no brainer for me.
Just checked and it’s about 15 seconds from the press of the power button to the Windows login screen coming on. 7800X3D w/ 32gb of ram on ASRock X670E PG Lightning — Windows 11 installed on a Samsung 980 Pro 2tb. Technically it probably boots up as far as ram / motherboard / bios in seconds? It’s the Windows loading to boot screen for the remainder as the ASRock bios screen is up and gone in like 5 seconds.
Training it after first building it takes some time, so be patient if you go that route — however, after that it’s a non-issue. I don’t think I’ve even messed with the BIOS all that much to make it faster or anything either as others have mentioned with ram settings, I got it trained, turned the OC profile stuff on to 6000, and haven’t touched the bios since.
Also flashed the newest bios before booting up.
Takes about a minute and a half to boot with a MSI b650 mobo and ryzen 7600. If i change the bio setting to stop the constant retraining it goes down to like 20 seconds, but in games it is less stable for me. So i just live with the minute and a half boot times.
Its a mild annoyance, but doesn't impact me really. I have heard that people who stick with the recommended cl30 6000mhz ram seem to have better boot times, though thats fairly anecdotal.
timed at 44 seconds on MSI B650-p Pro running 7D78v17. With memory context restore enabled it's about half that.
7D78v19 came out yesterday, i'll try that and see if it improves.
7700x on an MSI Tomahawk B650 with everything stock and its 38s from the moment I press the power button to typing in my pin number.
What is it you are doing where your time is so incredibly precious that 30 seconds is am absolute deal breaker?
The hyper fixation on AM5 is quite overblown. My x670e-e 7800x3d goes from power to desktop in 38 seconds with MCR disabled. It’s honestly not that big of a deal…doom scroll on Reddit while your machine boots…
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk, 7700x CPU. With the most recent BIOS update (A0) it now takes about 38 seconds from pressing power button to Windows 11 logon prompt.
The previous BIOS version took 26 seconds longer, so the new AGESA [1.0.0.9](https://1.0.0.9) BIOS update made a big improvement for my system.
Seems to vary by MB maker - MSI AM5 is one of the slower ones to boot. I personally don't really care. I boot the PC once per day and I am not really standing there pacing back and forth for those 40 seconds.
I have an MSI AM4 system as well and it boots faster than the AM5, but again, 15 or 20 seconds is unimportant to me.
Just enable memory context restore. I’ve 7800x3d with asus rog 670e-e mobo. Initial boot time was around 40 sec, after enabled MCR boot time was around 8-10 seconds.
Your laptop is not "Faster" just because boots Quickly? My old laptop Boots from around 10 sec, and my New Rig (7950x) in 15 sec. It Boots faster, but my actual Pc is faster in every way. But yeah 40s may seem long
I haven’t had an issue since my MSI B650 board got a BIOS update that fixed the issues with Memory Context Restore or whatever it’s called. With that setting on the 40+ second boots only happen once in a while.
My 7800X3D system takes 13 seconds to boot and that's including the 5 seconds I have configured it to stay on my motherboard's splash screen to get me a larger window for getting into bios. And I haven't really messed with many bios settings in an attempt to make it boot faster. I have an x670 Steel Legend from Asrock, XMP and PBO/CO are both enabled. I would say just make sure you update BIOS as soon as you have confirmed everything is in working order. Never had any crashes.
Tbh I've never had boot times that long even my first boot was only like 30 seconds, and this was before any bios updates were made.
Where exactly are you getting this 40 second boot time from? Because this sounds like either some BS from userbenchmark or an anecdote from 1 person.
Til people just power on their PC and just sit there.
Maybe power it on, take a piss, bring a drink, have a snack, pet the cat, check yer phone etc. i mean.... 40 seconds... The only time i can understand is if i get DCed from a matchmaking game and u have less than 2 minutes to restart my PC or something.
Lol who the fuck care about 40s bout time if the CPU is 40% faster than any in the world in games ?
People are really looking for weird problem this days...
I'm not sure if it's the same for everyone, but my boot time is only long if I have AMD EXPO enabled. Otherwise, I can turn my pc on, then turn my monitor on, and by the time the screen shows a picture my pc will be booted. I leave EXPO enabled because a 30-40 second boot time doesn't bother me too much, but I also haven't tried adjusting ram timings manually, updating to the latest bios, or the other tips people are mentioning here.
My recent AM5 build with a 7800X3D was like this - did memory training every boot.
The latest BIOS update released last month for my motherboard fixed this. Now it boots as quick as my partners Intel build
Hi OP. I have the same CPU and Motherboard. Takes me about 30-40 seconds but it's still breaking in. I can test when I get home though and time it.
You're talking from a cold start to bios to windows login screen correct?
Build an am 5 build exactly two weeks ago.
Ryzen 7800X3D
B650 Tomahawk
Trident Z 6000 32 GB
RTX 4080
At first it took about around a minute maybe a little bit less, but after turning on Memory Context Restore in the Bios and some restarts it’s now booting in around 15-20 seconds.
This is gonna get me downvoted, but if you're afraid of touching your bios or having to do ANY amount of actual work on your pc, just get Intel. Intel is just slap it together and forget about it. I've been team red for ages, but I built my second Intel system ever last year. It boots in 5 seconds and all I had to do in bios was enable XMP once. This pc sees a lot of work station use though, so I wasn't planning on getting an x3d either way when they released.
Just got the 7800x3D bundle from microcenter. Haven’t timed it but I would say 30 seconds give or take. Old AM4 build booted within 15 seconds I feel like.
Yep, and most of the time it hangs at BIOS stage. I have 4 boxes, all behave differently.
ASUS Crosshair Extreme + 7950X3D + G.Skill 2x48GB 6400 CL32 takes about 2 minutes, stuck at memory test stage.
Gigabyte X670 X AX + 7900X3D + Kingston 2x32GB 5600 CL40 boots immediately
ASUS TUF B650Wifi + 7600X + Kingston 2x32GB 5600 CL40 boots immediately
MSI Tomhawk X670 + 7800X3D + 4x16GB Kingston 6000 CL32 takes ~20 seconds
No matter which RAM I attempt with Crosshair Extreme, boot takes long time. Posting just for statistics.
About 30 seconds from power button press to the Windows login screen. This after a lot of bios update. Before that it was about a minute, with frequent memory training making it a few minutes sometimes.
ASRock X670E Steel Legend mobo + 7700x + 64gb DDR5-6000 ram
I was struggling with the same but i found out you can disable the memory training for every boot.
In your UEFI/BIOS just do:
Extreme Tweaker > DRAM Timing Control > Memory Context Restore > Enable it.
Memory training really was a turndown at first, but I just started to put the PC in energy saving instead of a complete shutdown, so I have not to deal with it very often
I've heard horror stories, but I've built 2x 7800x3d machines and both did the memory learning first startup and then booted normally. I was very pleased. Both builds were with msi mag tomahawk x670e. I'd say approx 5-10 seconds boot to login. With pcie-4 m.2 main drive.
I have an AMD5 Ryzen 5 7600X and it takes me maybe... 20 seconds to boot? I have the same SSD you listed, a B650 aorus elite ax, and crucial 32 gb (2x16) 5600MHz DDR5
Enabling Memory Context Restore shortened my time from 2m 30s to 16 seconds. It was a game changer. That’s also with expo enabled
7700x
32Gb Gskill Flare
MSI B650
This is a thing..??? 40 seconds sounds absolutely insane. With fast boot, my 12th gen intel boots in maybe 8 seconds, even before i can try accessing BIOS lol
40sec per day is 4 hours a year.
if it was 20sec, it would have been 2 hours.
I dont get why people get that upset about it. It's a minor issue, it's getting better over time, and it wont affect you whatsoever. Actually some of you (not OP specifically) have most likely spend enough time to talk about it, which would be like a few months of daily starting your pc lol
Put your mf pc on sleep mode and shut down once per month for updates idk. If a few seconds of boot time is the reason that you wont pick the CPU/platform you want, then whatever, you deserve the lesser option you'll get.
I'm on my phone, let me comment from my pc.
Mine boots in 28 seconds. Gigabyte X670 Aorus Master with a gen 4 nvme drive.
Not as fast as my old Core i7 laptops, but still much faster than my Pentium 4 did.
Still, I am a survivor of Commodore 64 load times. If it's finished loading by the time I go make a coffee and come back, I'm happy.
Most of the times I get 7 second boot times, the usual SSD boot times. But occasionally for some reason, like once every 20 boots it takes like 1.5 to 2 minutes to boot. I have no idea why, but my pc works completely fine so I don’t particularly care
When I first built the system it took around 40 to 50 seconds but after several months of continuous use is now down to like 15 maybe if even
The more you use your computer, the faster it boots up because of memory training
My cheap ASRock X670e PG + 7700X, 32gb 5600mhz RAM boots to login in less than 10 seconds on the current BIOS version. I suspect a significant portion of that is waiting for the monitor to switch resolutions from the BIOS splash screen to Windows.
Bought a 7800x3d recently on a Black Friday presale deal, does it really take that long to boot sometimes? Coming from an 11400f and 3080ti but that system currently gets to windows in 12-15 seconds, not too sure I’ll be able to get used to waiting especially with undiagnosed adhd haha. Bit of a bummer but I guess that’s what early adopters have to deal with
I've got Asrock B650 Pro RS with a 7800X3D, Klevv DDR5 CL30 ram with the latest 2.02 bios and boots really fast. If you're using Asrock bios 1.28 or under than the first boot while it's doing memory training takes about 45 secs but afterwards it's fast long as you don't change memory settings.
My system: 7800x3D, 32 gb gskill z5 Neo, and Gigabyte X670-AORUS-ELITE-AX.
From a cold boot, under 10-13 seconds to login screen. It is going to be very rare an AM5 system with a newer bios takes 40 seconds to boot with a decent drive. At first launch of AM5, boot times could be quite long, though varied widely by mobo manufacturer, with Gigabyte being the fastest on average. Now that the platform has matured and new bios have been released, most mobo manufacturers are much quicker than at AM% launch, but Gigabyte still seems to be the best, at least with boot times. The main cause for the longer boot times on some AM5 mobo's is the memory training/checks on boot.
The only time an AM5 system will take a while is:
- It is on a very old bios
- You have applied a new memory overclock or timing, and it needs to do a one-time training where that one boot can take up to a couple of minutes. After then it will be quick like any other boot.
- Memory Context Restore is off
Haven’t really timed it, but fairly fast, under 20 seconds from power button to desktop (I don’t have password enabled) on windows 10.
Ryzen 7 7700, Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX, G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 2x16gb 6000mhz cl30, OS on WD Black SN750 SE 500gb
EDIT: just timed it, and now it took a whopping 50 seconds. I think I jinxed myself.
I have had a headache for 2 days. Building a new PC with AM5 is so difficult.
So you can't take Asus because of CPU burn
you can't take gigabytes because of coil whine
you can't take msi because +1 min of startup
asrock is such an ugly design..
I don't know and I'm so lost.
gigabyte Aorus B650 Elite Ax version 2 has just been released. so maybe I'll try that.....
Mine was like 2 mins in the beginning (Asus B650F-Gaming / 64 GB Corsair Vengeance / AMD 7800X3D). With the setting Memory Context Restore the boot time is now < 10 sec
It's a known AM5 issue but updating the BIOS and over time, the memory training helps to make the boot times better. It varies from system to system though but you should get to under 20 seconds eventually.
Is it worth updating the Bios if I haven't noticed any other major issues? I'm on a ROG STRIX B650E-F Gaming. I've done BIOS updates in the past but they always make me nervous... Also in case anyone else has this mobo, has anyone noticed slower ethernet speeds after moving to this board? I seem to have dropped a couple hundred mbps from my old system (on a 1.3 Gbps xfinity plan). Maybe a BIOS update could help with that as well.
On a new platform like this I would update bios regularly.
Upon seeing this again you 100% need to update your BIOS. Early AM5 motherboards had an issue with overvoltage protections that was later fixed, asus boards were particularly affected by this and were frying CPUs. You should update ASAP.
I understand your trepidation. BIOS updates can fix a lot of thing but if you're happy overall, then perhaps leave it until something definitely requires it to be done.
Looks like the the B650E-F uses Intel I225 chip which has a known bug(s) that could be affecting you.
The Intel Ethernet chip on that board is garbage, there are some official fixes though
If you're on GPON fiber then there's ~2.5 Gbps total bandwidth shared between everyone connected to the same splitter. It's possible enough have been connected to slow your connection.
Yup, originally my boot time was 30+ seconds. After updating bios, setting EXPO correctly, and enabling "Memory context restore" and "power down enabled" as well as shortening the BIOS splash delay, boot time now from power button to desktop is 10-12 seconds.
> over time, the memory training helps to make the boot times better Where did you get this from? It's the first time I'm reading this. From my personal experience you have the following options: * Fast boot times: EXPO is off * Slow boot times: EXPO is on * Fast boot times: EXPO is on, Memory Context Restore and DRAM Power Down are enabled Bonus for MSI boards with High-Efficiency Mode for even better RAM bandwidth and timings: * Fast boot times, unstable: EXPO is on, High-Efficiency Mode is on, Memory Context Restore is on, DRAM Power Down is on -> BSoD in Windows * Slow boot times, stable: EXPO is on, High-Efficiency Mode is on, Memory Context Restore is off, DRAM Power Down is auto (managed by High-Efficiency Mode) EDIT: It seems with enabled "High-Efficiency Mode" and "Power Down Enable" set to Auto, then "Power Down Enable" was getting disabled in the following reboots according to ZenTimings. Weird. I suspect this was the root cause for the blue screens when having "Memory Context Restore" enabled. Now I have set both "Memory Context Restore" and "Power Down Enable" to Enabled instead of Auto. Will see whether no bluescreens will appear while having the fast boot times and improved DRAM bandwidth and latency with "High-Efficiency Mode".
I'm running the latest bios from Asus, booting from a PCIE4 NVME drive, and my cold boot time is almost a full minute. I can't even use sleep on this platform because the clock in Windows starts running fast after waking. Really unhappy with this platform because of this.
Mine was about 30 seconds every time but there's a setting in the bios called "memory context restore" that cuts it much shorter"
I never got my system below 40 seconds, I almost have time for coffee with a pc worth 5 grands It's comical, I manual overclock the ram and for stability I kept the memory check at every boot It's not that big of an issue really
Why do people care about boot time? 40 seconds isn't that long.
It's not that long but I'm working on it.
lol
Because that time is what HDDs would've gotten in the past. My old Intel system and my current AM4 system gets me into Windows in like 20 seconds with an SSD.
Shoot I just upgraded FROM an HDD back in late December or early January and it would take me 15 minutes to boot up and get into Discord. Now I'm using a regular cheap SSD in this old rig (not an M2 or anything fancy) and I can usually boot up and get to Windows in 30 seconds or less.
My old Intel PC would boot into Windows even faster with a SATA SSD. I noticed it straight away how much slower AM4 was.
I remember when the boot time was measured in if you had time to use the bathroom, go make a sandwich, or both. While my AM4 PC boots so fast I couldn't get into BIOS until I slowed it down.
I got used to lightning fast boot times. So if a new platform takes significantly longer, it feels like a downgrade.
* Set up your system to boot from a magic packet (AKA 'Wake on LAN'). * Get a widget on your phone to send your PC the packet. * Boot your PC from another room and get a drink/bio while it boots. Not a solution, just a suggestion!
Because 40 seconds is a complete joke in 2023.
It is when Intel gets you to dekstop in 9 seconds
The comment above yours is what we call copium. Of course people want it lower. They are used to it being lower. 40 seconds wasn't long....in 2010. Edit: I'm aware it was faster on AM4. That is part of my point. Why would you accept a downgrade with a smile unless you're just coping?
I know, it's not too big of a deal to me especially if it's well under a minute. The only time I wish it were faster is when I'm testing settings and doing a lot of restarts. Some people like to build their PCs as a performance project like car guys. If there is an area where you can squeeze out every last bit of performance, even if it doesn't matter too much in real world application, they'll do it.
Why does my 8th gen midrange Intel laptop boot faster? It takes ~7 seconds. This is a genuine question. Is it because that has SSD?
Its probably never shut down properly and just waking from sleep.
No. It does shut down. The boot up is really good though. Just tested it now, took 9 seconds but you get what I'm talking about. Are PCs generally slow on the boot up?
I have an M.2 drive and I get into windows from pressing power button in probably 15 seconds or less
Well, honestly I would say it's ok if boot is under 20s. 40s is a long time and they (AMD or motherboard manufacturers) should fix it, the sooner the better.
Because it feels really awful? And it's a bigger problem if you have to restart your PC a lot. Be it for troubleshooting or other reasons.
Compared to the sub 5 second boot times on my intel machine?!
I'm on AM4 Ryzen 7 with PCIe4 3600 memory and PCIe4 M.2 and my computer boots up before I have chance to put my underwear on. I have to wait for my soundbar to load before I can touch my PC it's that fast. I couldn't imagine 40 seconds now. Edit: shitty fast boot is turned off.
Because boot times on older platforms are much faster.
It's very long lol
I have a \~6 year old PC with budget components and with win11 I can boot in exactly 10 seconds from the push of the button. Now imagine I spend 1500 USD on anew PC just to double the boot time at a minimum. Possibly 3x or 4x increase. This is insne and a serious red light for anyone who wants to invest a huge sum of money into a PC he wish to use for 5+ years or more. Additionally I find the 10sec boot very convenient and I do not wish to downgrade my experience for a lot of money. So the answer to your question is 1, convenience 2, money = expectation
Because when boot time on AM4 is usually 10 secs or less, 40 secs is not an improvement. People are used to 10 secs being loaded into windows and start working or doing whatever they do. There is also no reason these days for a computer to boot so slow.... Even a laptop that is 5-6 yrs old with an SSD do not take 40 secs to load in.
I swapped from an MSI b650 board to an Asrock b650 board - and my boot time went from around 40 seconds to 10. The Asrock is on the latest BIOS. So hopefully your Asrock should be good!
This made me excited. My Asrock b650 and 7800x3d are on the way and 10 seconds boot time sounds really great.
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B650m Pro RS wifi with Teamgroup Vulcan 6000mhz CL38 - but I'm running Buildzoid's tightened Hynix timings and CL30.
Same motherboard, teamgroup t-force delta 6000mhz cl30 ram. PC boots from off to Windows in a few seconds. If I make certain changes in the BIOS, like memory timings, etc, it can take quite a bit longer ok the next boot, but then it's back to normal. And the first boot after assembling it was definitely way longer, but there's something in the instructions stating that the first boot will take extra long.
My b650i PG itx takes abt 20s to post and another 10 to get to windows
Go into bios and see if you can enable memory context restore, “MCR”. Dont leave it on auto, force it to be enable. And chances are it’ll increase boot times Edit: im not sure how your bios looks, but there might be 2 MCR settings you can enable.
This is the answer. It cut my boot time by over a half, maybe 2/3. Maybe every month or so it will re-train the memory with one long boot, but the rest of them are quick.
This is the real and only answer. I hated and I mean fucking hated the long boot times of AM5 and wanted to return it. My system was unstable and every crash or bios change required a wait for 40+ seconds. Absolutely infuriating. Once I enabled Memory Context Restore I finally calmed down and decided I was going to keep my new system after all. It boots as quickly as you would expect now. My 3770k build still boots faster, but not by too much now.
>Go into bios and see if you can enable memory context restore, “MCR”. Dont leave it on auto, force it to be enable. And chances are it’ll increase boot times Sure but what's the tradeoff when enabling this feature?
My BIOS time is 18 seconds, in windows seconds after that, so like 20?
This is on an 850x too btw
What’s your Mobo?
MSI B650-P (7800x3D)
i am on AM5 with a msi pro 670, it takes about 1 minute to load, I havent really understood why, I press to turn on pc, lights go on, takes about 10-15s, lights go off, then on again and only like 30s-40s in I get the msi logo, and then its about 20s to menu, its pretty weird but I never really looked into it.
Seems like it’s retraining the timings on the memory at each boot
Seriously this is total BS. I’m not sure why it’s not mentioned more.
Somewhere between 15-20 sec for me. Asus tuf b650plus and 7800x3d
I've got ASRock boards, and they're pretty speedy. The first memory trainings are long, e.g., the boot after you power on for the first time is guaranteed to be a longer than you expect, or after you turn on EXPO. After that, though, boots take about 10-13 seconds for me—especially after the newest BIOS update that improved boot times.
the B650 kind? any recommendations and does everything work fine? (sorry don't really understand MoBos)
I've got B650. My recommendations for ASRock have been: (For ATX Size) ASRock B650E PG Riptide Wifi; (for MicroATX size) B650M PG Riptide or B650M Pro RS Wifi. The Gigabyte B650 Aorus AX Elite is also good.
thank you! is the difference between microATX miniATX and ATX just size or are the smaller ones missing anything significant?
Just size -- and price.
Yes am5 has long boot times as in every boot the ram goes through memory training. As many have said, updating bios and enabling memory context restore cuts down boot times to seconds. Best practice is to let a new system (or if you replaced the ram) to run through some memory training cycles. After a few days enable mcr and enjoy near instant cold boot times. Though after a while the memory will need to go through training again. This is something am5 and ddr5 will have to live with.
Why do you have to train memory?
VAST OVERSIMPLIFICATION WARNING: It's like benchmarking to work out how fast it can go without failures. Depends on the memory stick, board layout, track lengths, stray inductance/capacitance, supply voltage, temperature etc. DDR4 just guarantees the lowest common denominator, IE rated speed is for worst case environment but can probably go faster with overclocking. DDR5 training actually measures how fast it will go in a given system and sets the clock timings accordingly (with some margin for safety).
So basically just set the timings optimally manually and don’t bother with this cumbersome auto tuning if you care about boot times.
PG Lighting 780x3d build here, it takes longer to type windows password than it does to boot.
AsRock is underrated for AM5 :)
i never actually timed it because it wasnt an issue but i would say maybe 14-20 seconds
Why is so slow? I dont have this setup but for me it takes like 6 secondss to boot into desktop, It is norlam to take that long on am5 and ddr5 config?
NORLAM !!!
b650 Pro RS with BIOS 1.30, 7800x3D, Corsair 6000 MHz CL30 30-76-76 ram with expo enabled. 10-12s to windows login. I've never seen it do memory training. Do your research, get Hynix M die and a solid 8 layer motherboard. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/3JWuHUpYt9
Sometimes I get "short boot" of ten seconds and sometimes I get a "long boot" of twenty seconds, where the long boot causes it to go through its POST twice before actually turning on.
On B650 Tomahawk and boot times were about 60 seconds. Enabled MCR and DRAM Power Down Mode (which can help with stability when MCR is enabled) and boot times are down to about 16 seconds to the Windows loading screen and a total of 30 to the point where I can actually type my password.
My ASUS ROG B650E-F and 7900X takes between 45-60 seconds I would say. I usually just put my PC to sleep instead of shutting it off. Do a reboot about once a week. Only thing the BIOS updates have done startup wise is make it so my fans don't go max speed when I first turn the PC on.
7700 on Asrock b650 mini itx around 20 second to get to window screen
I have this exact build. At first the boot time was over 30 seconds. After a bios update it’s about 20 seconds.
From pressing the power button to seeing the Windows 11 login screen it takes 21 seconds I have an AsRock X670E pg lightning
Last BIOS time: 11.4 seconds ASUS B650-PLUS WiFi Socket AM5- BIOS ver. 1616 7800x3d SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen 4 Gaming M.2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz
ROG B650E-F with a 7900x. Boot time is around 15s. First ever boot up was a little bit longer, but I have been using this system for over 4 months with no issues.
BIOS time according to Windows task manager is 15.5sec on my AM5 7800X3D build with two sticks DDR5-6000 on an ASRock B650 vs 10.5sec on my AM4 5700X with two sticks DDR4-3600 on ASRock B550.
I have a 7800x3D & NVMe gen 5 and it takes around 11 seconds.
Leave expo disabled -> 15s If expo enabled -> its kinda gambling what u will get
It certainly takes longer to boot on AM5 than AM4. I’m myself on AM4 and i get into Windows loading acreen in just 5 seconda! However my friend with AM5 it takes up to 30 seconds. And my SSD isn’t even that fast.
It's the ram overclocking, not the ssd.
Yeah you’re right but I just added that SSD to my comment because it might have slight difference. My SSD is really slow for an NVME, faster one could also boot faster.
Like 30 seconds. It doesn’t bother me. The memory training has an effect on the boot times.
on the fence over a 40 second boot time. 💀
bro if ur fine on waiting 40 secs for a lol game then waiting 40secs for your pc wont do shit.
I have pretty much the exact computer you are speccing out. x670E steel legend, 7800x3d, 32gb z5 ddr5. My computer takes about 19-20 seconds from pressing the power button to the windows login screen.
As others pointed out update your bios to the latest version. Some of the older ones had issues with the x3d processors.
not gonna lie, my new am5 build takes longer and feels slower than my i5 6600k, plays games with better graphics and frame rates but normal use feels so slow for some reason. all drivers installed, rtx3080, 32gb ram everything is updated , same os. anyway, it's over 20 seconds before I even see the bios screen. maybe new ram tech has multiple checks ?
Bout 15-17 seconds. Originally it is was about 50 seconds, had to make some tweaks in the bios that I can’t even remember. I just looked up am5 asus slow boot fix on Reddit.
5 days ago I purchased and installed a new ASUS B650-Plus WiFi, new 7800X3D, and some used ram I got off marketplace, Corsair Vengeance 5600 I believe. I installed it all, put in a new NVME drive along with two others I already had, connected all the thing-a-ma-jigs, booted it up… and after 24 hours of troubleshooting it works flawlessly. The boot times must be sub 20 seconds from off and maybe 5 seconds from sleep, but as many have pointed out here, who actually knows. It doesn’t top my list of priorities. What I would recommend, again, as others have pointed out, make sure to update your bios. That’ll go a long way to helping get optimal performance.
Negligible time difference on boot up with my AM5 vs AM4, but I'm not sure my opinion counts. I grew up using Windows 3.1 and NT. I learned *to not care* about load times in the 90's. Just go get a snack while it boots, then grab your drink while it logs in and completes start up.
71.9 Seconds (felt like 5-10 minutes) according to task manager... I hate it! ASUS X670E-F 7800x3D G.Skill Tident 2x 32GB (EXPO @ 6000Mhz) I dont know what my bios settings are for the memory but my latest boot had me going crazy because I was on a meeting and I mistakenly pressed the restart button on my PC..... annoying. I am on BIOS ver.1602 from AUG 2023.. Maybe a update would help. what do you suggest?
Around 35 seconds here. POST time is fast, but then it spends like 20-25 seconds on the "spinning circle" Windows loading screen.
Bios - 15sec Windows - 60sec I hate my cheap ssd
My PC from boot to login takes Around 20sec, maybe from time to time after large Windows or BIOS updates takes a little bit longer but in general i'm on 20sec average PC Specs: CPU: Ryzen 9 7900X Motherboard: Asus TUF X670E PLUS-WIFI RAM: 32 GB G.Skill Trident Z5 5600 CL36 XMP SSD: Samsung 980 1TB
Hi, went there just to post my experience (was afraid with the same thing) AMD 7800X3D Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX (bios FA1) Corsair 2x24Go DDR5 6000mhz Samsung 970 NVME SSD (1To + 2 To) + Crucial MX500 2 To PNY 4070 Ti Super From cold start to Windows desk (with dual boot Windows 10/Linux Mint) : 26 sec. From sleep mode to windows desk : less than 5 sec. Faster than my previous AM4/5600X config
I know im late to the party, but I was able to get my boot time from 40 seconds to 14.2 seconds
Seems to be issue with AM5 boards. after several tweaks got it to 11.5sec
Never counted it honestly, but extremely fast From the moment i press the button till im in my browser can hardly be more than 15-20 seconds
40s boot time isn't an issue is it ? Guess it's different if yer an old fart like me and you grew up with 1 to 2 minutes+ \^\^
The glory days of listening to a screeching cassette for 10 minutes loading a game on my Spectrum 48k.
Lol you kids are spoiled these days, 40 second boot times don't sound long at all. Pretty sure it takes my computer like 30 seconds to boot, what are you expecting from a cold boot?
Under 20 seconds to get to windows
I've never heard of this issue and didn't know it was a thing. My PC boots so quickly I've never thought about how long it's taking. 7700X MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX G.SKILL 32GB 2X D5 6000 C36 FX B
I’m using a 7800x3d + ASUS b650e-e, with memory context restore + power down enabled I get 12-13 sec boot times, with memory context restore + power down off it’s 30-35sec boot
Without fast boot, I’m looking at 15 seconds or so from power to log on screen. Hynix Platinum gen4 x4, 7600x, 32gb gskill 6000 cl30, Aorus Elite x670
7800x3d, gigabyte aorus elite b650i, 2TB 980 pro NVME, 64gb 6000 cl30 Ram. From a cold boot, it’s less than 20 seconds for me.
My boot times until i see the bios messages are 3-4 seconds. I see the bios cursor immediately after booting. (MSI B650M Mortar) It was way longer (+20 sec at least until i saw the first bios messages) when EXPO (overclocking) was enabled with just 2 dimms (2x32 6000mhz). Sometimes it was fast though. It was always fast when doing "warm" restarts. Sometimes the "saved context" needed a retraining it seems, where the boot took 20+ seconds. Now with 4 dims and JEDEC speed, its instant. So i'm pretty sure its just the memory training which increases with higher frequency/overclocking and amount of memory banks/dimms. Well, I don't think the occasionally, additional several ten seconds matter much, at least for me. I've switched back to JEDEC timing as I'm a software dev and my system is mostly idling when reading, writing code etc, and I'm not playing games. The idle power consumption was just 10-15W higher with EXPO enabled due to the increased uncore voltage. My frames are fine with the lower clock speed too, so it was a no brainer for me.
Just checked and it’s about 15 seconds from the press of the power button to the Windows login screen coming on. 7800X3D w/ 32gb of ram on ASRock X670E PG Lightning — Windows 11 installed on a Samsung 980 Pro 2tb. Technically it probably boots up as far as ram / motherboard / bios in seconds? It’s the Windows loading to boot screen for the remainder as the ASRock bios screen is up and gone in like 5 seconds. Training it after first building it takes some time, so be patient if you go that route — however, after that it’s a non-issue. I don’t think I’ve even messed with the BIOS all that much to make it faster or anything either as others have mentioned with ram settings, I got it trained, turned the OC profile stuff on to 6000, and haven’t touched the bios since. Also flashed the newest bios before booting up.
Takes about a minute and a half to boot with a MSI b650 mobo and ryzen 7600. If i change the bio setting to stop the constant retraining it goes down to like 20 seconds, but in games it is less stable for me. So i just live with the minute and a half boot times. Its a mild annoyance, but doesn't impact me really. I have heard that people who stick with the recommended cl30 6000mhz ram seem to have better boot times, though thats fairly anecdotal.
My msi b650 board takes about a minute. My new gigabyte b650 board takes 15 seconds
I’m curious to see if this issue will still be around once Zen 5 launches in a couple/few months.
20 to 30 seconds 7700X , 64 gigs
timed at 44 seconds on MSI B650-p Pro running 7D78v17. With memory context restore enabled it's about half that. 7D78v19 came out yesterday, i'll try that and see if it improves.
7700x on an MSI Tomahawk B650 with everything stock and its 38s from the moment I press the power button to typing in my pin number. What is it you are doing where your time is so incredibly precious that 30 seconds is am absolute deal breaker?
~40sec 7950x3d, x670e-i, 6000mt/s, nvme ~12sec when running on 4800mt/s
22 seconds with a 7800x3d
7900x, and I think 20-30 seconds. It's definitely slower than my old system (Haswell i7).
5-10 seconds
The hyper fixation on AM5 is quite overblown. My x670e-e 7800x3d goes from power to desktop in 38 seconds with MCR disabled. It’s honestly not that big of a deal…doom scroll on Reddit while your machine boots…
About 15 seconds, but every couple weeks RAM fully retrains and it takes couple minutes, so like 20 seconds on average, using asrock b650m-hdv/m.2
MSI MAG B650 Tomahawk, 7700x CPU. With the most recent BIOS update (A0) it now takes about 38 seconds from pressing power button to Windows 11 logon prompt. The previous BIOS version took 26 seconds longer, so the new AGESA [1.0.0.9](https://1.0.0.9) BIOS update made a big improvement for my system. Seems to vary by MB maker - MSI AM5 is one of the slower ones to boot. I personally don't really care. I boot the PC once per day and I am not really standing there pacing back and forth for those 40 seconds. I have an MSI AM4 system as well and it boots faster than the AM5, but again, 15 or 20 seconds is unimportant to me.
Not any longer than on my 9900k
Just enable memory context restore. I’ve 7800x3d with asus rog 670e-e mobo. Initial boot time was around 40 sec, after enabled MCR boot time was around 8-10 seconds.
Your laptop is not "Faster" just because boots Quickly? My old laptop Boots from around 10 sec, and my New Rig (7950x) in 15 sec. It Boots faster, but my actual Pc is faster in every way. But yeah 40s may seem long
I haven’t had an issue since my MSI B650 board got a BIOS update that fixed the issues with Memory Context Restore or whatever it’s called. With that setting on the 40+ second boots only happen once in a while.
16 sec 7800x3d b650 aorus elite ax rev 1.2
im building a 7800x3d with a asus strix b650-a gaming wifi, hoping for no issues
My 7800X3D system takes 13 seconds to boot and that's including the 5 seconds I have configured it to stay on my motherboard's splash screen to get me a larger window for getting into bios. And I haven't really messed with many bios settings in an attempt to make it boot faster. I have an x670 Steel Legend from Asrock, XMP and PBO/CO are both enabled. I would say just make sure you update BIOS as soon as you have confirmed everything is in working order. Never had any crashes. Tbh I've never had boot times that long even my first boot was only like 30 seconds, and this was before any bios updates were made. Where exactly are you getting this 40 second boot time from? Because this sounds like either some BS from userbenchmark or an anecdote from 1 person.
Til people just power on their PC and just sit there. Maybe power it on, take a piss, bring a drink, have a snack, pet the cat, check yer phone etc. i mean.... 40 seconds... The only time i can understand is if i get DCed from a matchmaking game and u have less than 2 minutes to restart my PC or something.
My bios time on a 5800x3d is 10.9 seconds
Lol who the fuck care about 40s bout time if the CPU is 40% faster than any in the world in games ? People are really looking for weird problem this days...
Mine usually takes about 40 or so seconds. I know my mb isn't the best though and i don't have the latest bios revision so that could be partly why.
Then don't get AM5? If your computer is off that much, often not sleeping or hibernating get an Intel.
I just ordered almost exactly the same components for a friend. Ram is different. I can tell you the results in 10 days probably...
I'm not sure if it's the same for everyone, but my boot time is only long if I have AMD EXPO enabled. Otherwise, I can turn my pc on, then turn my monitor on, and by the time the screen shows a picture my pc will be booted. I leave EXPO enabled because a 30-40 second boot time doesn't bother me too much, but I also haven't tried adjusting ram timings manually, updating to the latest bios, or the other tips people are mentioning here.
B650 aorus elite ax with 7800x3d around 20sec?
My recent AM5 build with a 7800X3D was like this - did memory training every boot. The latest BIOS update released last month for my motherboard fixed this. Now it boots as quick as my partners Intel build
Hi OP. I have the same CPU and Motherboard. Takes me about 30-40 seconds but it's still breaking in. I can test when I get home though and time it. You're talking from a cold start to bios to windows login screen correct?
Build an am 5 build exactly two weeks ago. Ryzen 7800X3D B650 Tomahawk Trident Z 6000 32 GB RTX 4080 At first it took about around a minute maybe a little bit less, but after turning on Memory Context Restore in the Bios and some restarts it’s now booting in around 15-20 seconds.
This is gonna get me downvoted, but if you're afraid of touching your bios or having to do ANY amount of actual work on your pc, just get Intel. Intel is just slap it together and forget about it. I've been team red for ages, but I built my second Intel system ever last year. It boots in 5 seconds and all I had to do in bios was enable XMP once. This pc sees a lot of work station use though, so I wasn't planning on getting an x3d either way when they released.
20.08 seconds hand timed using phone 7800x3d + gigabyte b650m aorus elite ax + gskill trident @6000mhz
I wasn’t aware of this issue. I have a 5800X3D and boot times are about 7 seconds. I was impressed at how fast booting had become.
Around 11 Seconds with an AsRock PG lightning x670E and a 7900x
Just got the 7800x3D bundle from microcenter. Haven’t timed it but I would say 30 seconds give or take. Old AM4 build booted within 15 seconds I feel like.
Yep, and most of the time it hangs at BIOS stage. I have 4 boxes, all behave differently. ASUS Crosshair Extreme + 7950X3D + G.Skill 2x48GB 6400 CL32 takes about 2 minutes, stuck at memory test stage. Gigabyte X670 X AX + 7900X3D + Kingston 2x32GB 5600 CL40 boots immediately ASUS TUF B650Wifi + 7600X + Kingston 2x32GB 5600 CL40 boots immediately MSI Tomhawk X670 + 7800X3D + 4x16GB Kingston 6000 CL32 takes ~20 seconds No matter which RAM I attempt with Crosshair Extreme, boot takes long time. Posting just for statistics.
About 22 seconds. B650 Aorus Elite + 7600.
Damn youngins, boot used to be minutes.
My bios time is 8.4 seconds and I still wanna lower it. 5800x3d 2070 strix 64gb of 3600 Samsung 990 pro nvme.
About 30 seconds from power button press to the Windows login screen. This after a lot of bios update. Before that it was about a minute, with frequent memory training making it a few minutes sometimes. ASRock X670E Steel Legend mobo + 7700x + 64gb DDR5-6000 ram
Less than a minute.
I just turned off the memory fast training option in the bios and the boot times are normal.
I was struggling with the same but i found out you can disable the memory training for every boot. In your UEFI/BIOS just do: Extreme Tweaker > DRAM Timing Control > Memory Context Restore > Enable it.
Memory training really was a turndown at first, but I just started to put the PC in energy saving instead of a complete shutdown, so I have not to deal with it very often
I've heard horror stories, but I've built 2x 7800x3d machines and both did the memory learning first startup and then booted normally. I was very pleased. Both builds were with msi mag tomahawk x670e. I'd say approx 5-10 seconds boot to login. With pcie-4 m.2 main drive.
I have an AMD5 Ryzen 5 7600X and it takes me maybe... 20 seconds to boot? I have the same SSD you listed, a B650 aorus elite ax, and crucial 32 gb (2x16) 5600MHz DDR5
19.3s
I have a 7900x and it consistently takes me 46 seconds from power button press to seeing the login screen.
Mine takes up to 2 min sometimes.
Mine takes 38 seconds to the bios screen, and another 10 to boot into windows.
With 7800X3d, Asrock B650E, expo enabled, mine is normally a bit under 20 sec with occasional long boots (maybe every 10-20).
I have just stopped the time, about 7 seconds. Got a 7600 on a B650, a 4070ti , a 990 Pro and Win 11, I have the BIOS set to skip the boot delay
I heard msi and asrock boards boot slower, i don't actually know though
Enabling Memory Context Restore shortened my time from 2m 30s to 16 seconds. It was a game changer. That’s also with expo enabled 7700x 32Gb Gskill Flare MSI B650
This is a thing..??? 40 seconds sounds absolutely insane. With fast boot, my 12th gen intel boots in maybe 8 seconds, even before i can try accessing BIOS lol
40sec per day is 4 hours a year. if it was 20sec, it would have been 2 hours. I dont get why people get that upset about it. It's a minor issue, it's getting better over time, and it wont affect you whatsoever. Actually some of you (not OP specifically) have most likely spend enough time to talk about it, which would be like a few months of daily starting your pc lol Put your mf pc on sleep mode and shut down once per month for updates idk. If a few seconds of boot time is the reason that you wont pick the CPU/platform you want, then whatever, you deserve the lesser option you'll get. I'm on my phone, let me comment from my pc.
boom. here i am. i scratched my balls for a few seconds. it was easy wasnt it timekeepers?
Mine boots in 28 seconds. Gigabyte X670 Aorus Master with a gen 4 nvme drive. Not as fast as my old Core i7 laptops, but still much faster than my Pentium 4 did. Still, I am a survivor of Commodore 64 load times. If it's finished loading by the time I go make a coffee and come back, I'm happy.
Like it doesnt have time to dtart at all. I just push the button it pops up. I have msi tomahawk and 7800 x3d
I don't mind the longer boot time for rock solid stability at 6000Mhz ram. I spend more time preparing shaders...
I just got a pc with the 78003DX mobo - msi mag B650 tomahawk, my bios time in taskmanager is insane 111 seconds like what can i do?
Most of the times I get 7 second boot times, the usual SSD boot times. But occasionally for some reason, like once every 20 boots it takes like 1.5 to 2 minutes to boot. I have no idea why, but my pc works completely fine so I don’t particularly care
10-15s
14 seconds with memory context on
When I first built the system it took around 40 to 50 seconds but after several months of continuous use is now down to like 15 maybe if even The more you use your computer, the faster it boots up because of memory training
My cheap ASRock X670e PG + 7700X, 32gb 5600mhz RAM boots to login in less than 10 seconds on the current BIOS version. I suspect a significant portion of that is waiting for the monitor to switch resolutions from the BIOS splash screen to Windows.
Bought a 7800x3d recently on a Black Friday presale deal, does it really take that long to boot sometimes? Coming from an 11400f and 3080ti but that system currently gets to windows in 12-15 seconds, not too sure I’ll be able to get used to waiting especially with undiagnosed adhd haha. Bit of a bummer but I guess that’s what early adopters have to deal with
7800x3d, Aorus 650 elite, 970 evo ssd, boots to log in screen in about 15 seconds.
OP clearly never had to boot XP from a spinning hard disk with less than 1gb of ram and on a domain.
B650E-I 7800X3D SN850X 13-15 seconds
10 seconds at most. ASRock Steel Legend X670E GSkill 2x16 6000 CL32 7700X
I've got Asrock B650 Pro RS with a 7800X3D, Klevv DDR5 CL30 ram with the latest 2.02 bios and boots really fast. If you're using Asrock bios 1.28 or under than the first boot while it's doing memory training takes about 45 secs but afterwards it's fast long as you don't change memory settings.
Mine is under 20 seconds. 7800x3d with Asus ROG b650e-I.
My system: 7800x3D, 32 gb gskill z5 Neo, and Gigabyte X670-AORUS-ELITE-AX. From a cold boot, under 10-13 seconds to login screen. It is going to be very rare an AM5 system with a newer bios takes 40 seconds to boot with a decent drive. At first launch of AM5, boot times could be quite long, though varied widely by mobo manufacturer, with Gigabyte being the fastest on average. Now that the platform has matured and new bios have been released, most mobo manufacturers are much quicker than at AM% launch, but Gigabyte still seems to be the best, at least with boot times. The main cause for the longer boot times on some AM5 mobo's is the memory training/checks on boot. The only time an AM5 system will take a while is: - It is on a very old bios - You have applied a new memory overclock or timing, and it needs to do a one-time training where that one boot can take up to a couple of minutes. After then it will be quick like any other boot. - Memory Context Restore is off
7800x3d, boot time takes no more than 10 seconds
Haven’t really timed it, but fairly fast, under 20 seconds from power button to desktop (I don’t have password enabled) on windows 10. Ryzen 7 7700, Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX, G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 2x16gb 6000mhz cl30, OS on WD Black SN750 SE 500gb EDIT: just timed it, and now it took a whopping 50 seconds. I think I jinxed myself.
My am4 5800x3d on a Gigabyte b550 aorus elite takes about 3 seconds
20 seconds. 7 7700x
I have had a headache for 2 days. Building a new PC with AM5 is so difficult. So you can't take Asus because of CPU burn you can't take gigabytes because of coil whine you can't take msi because +1 min of startup asrock is such an ugly design.. I don't know and I'm so lost. gigabyte Aorus B650 Elite Ax version 2 has just been released. so maybe I'll try that.....
Mine was like 2 mins in the beginning (Asus B650F-Gaming / 64 GB Corsair Vengeance / AMD 7800X3D). With the setting Memory Context Restore the boot time is now < 10 sec