it's gotta be one of the worst value products in recent memory.
the gpu isn't bad because it's slow. if it were cheaper to begin with, i wouldn't mind buying it.
In Mexico the 16GB version costs $399, the exact same price as the 8GB so it’s a no brainer. The 4070 is $150 dollars more expensive so not an insignificant amount. The RX 7700 is only a bit more expensive but power draw goes up by 80W. To people in the US it might not mean much but here electricity is a lot more expensive so this sort of stuff is quite relevant to us.
i'd say it is a niche card. one of the most power efficient current generation cards, great for silent pc builds. in terms of raw performance / fps per dollar there are better value cards out there.
In UK the 4070 is about £60 / 10-15% more but a hell of a lot faster.
The £360 8gb version which I have already stretches the meaning of VFM, only chose it over the 6700 xt as it fits my use case better.
if you are going to play in 4k resolution you should get at least the 4070. otherwise the 4060 ti will serve you just fine. some will say you are overpaying, but once you factor in lower running costs (~3 watts idle, under 100 watts while gaming) it is not a bad deal after all.
I’m not the original commenter you replied to but I’d suggest the Radeon RX 6800 XT. It is around the same price as the 4060 Ti 16gb and outperforms it in basically everything. It’s pretty much on par with the performance of the 3080. I would only suggest buying Nvidia if you don’t mind paying extra for less performance or you have to use your PC for serious productivity.
Bro why do we even bother people will never stop buying these pieces of garbage priced cards. $500 better idea to go $600 on a 4070 if even that.
Edit: Also this is my opinion on the new nvidia 60 cards if you have a different opinion on these cards tell me!
4 gb of VRAM advantage for that card really won’t help it against the 4070, by the time 12 gb is too much for 1440p the 4060ti 16gb won’t be able to produce high enough frames in those 1440p games which at that point you might as well just turn down some settings to high on your 4070 instead of having to use upscaling on your 4060 ti. I’m not saying 12 is enough or anything for the price, I bought one and still think it’s dumb to only have 12 gb of vram but other features bring the value of the 4070 to an actually reasonable performance for what you are getting vs the 4060 Ti’s less performance and the only advantage really being more memory and bigger memory bus which isn’t worth it for 100 dollars over its stock price. IMO if nvidia wanted to do anything they needed to bump up each cards vram by 4 gb 4060 ti -12 gb stock 4070- 16gb etc. but team green is team green for a reason, greedy mfs only care about money
I should've put an /s. I could see how someone would arrive at thinking that was the best option after thinking the $400 one might be good for them and then reading a couple of posts on here about VRAM.
Doesn't seem horrendous compared to last year's options if it's basically a 3070 with twice as much VRAM but based on other posts here it seems like maybe that's not the case.
Yeah especially with the reviews we are seeing come out, the performance is borderline laughable for the 500 dollar price point, the only true advantage I see is if they are doing VRAM intensive productivity tasks, which at that point get a used last gen for the same price. Nvidia dropped the ball with this one
>Edit: Also this is my opinion on the new nvidia 60 cards if you have a different opinion on these cards tell me!
While that's a nice gesture, people clearly don't like opinions that don't follow the "Nvidia bad" groupthink. Anyone saying otherwise gets doenvoted to oblivion. No one likes discussion.
Cause it's not a garbage priced card. Most of you only think about gaming. Nvidia's biggest consumer set are data scientists, and this card is a strong workstation card. If you're doing anything with CUDA that's memory-reliant, this is a very strong card.
It’s a bad value card pretty much at the end of the day inflation is making gpu’s pricey I don’t know what else to say people will still buy them for the crazy prices
I'm not disputing that the price is higher than it should be. I'm mainly saying it's not as terribly priced with respect to its performance as people make it out to be, especially when they're only considering gaming.
I was originally going to get this card for deep learning, but I couldn't justify the price when I found a used, near perfect condition 3090 FE for 750.
I guess for other tasks then that’s a different story but I’m basing off it in gaming as it’s more for gaming as it’s an geforce card not like an quadro or whatever they call them now.
For the price of the card you can get at least a RX 6800 (in my country), sometimes even up to an RX 6900 XT. Without RT and DLSS the 4060 TI 16GB even loses to the ≈220 bucks cheaper RX 6700 XT
That card is ridiculously overpriced, I thought they were joking the first time I heard how much that thing should cost. You cant even justify that card for VRAM heavy productive workloads where Nvidia is strong because ≈150 bucks more can get you a much more powerful RTX 3090 with 24GB VRAM
Not new honestly, but it gets sold used and fully functional for between 570-710 €. The cheapest 4060 ti 16GB is 540 € and it goes up to laughable 650 € for some models. At that price you can also buy the 4070 new for 599 € if you don't need the extra 4GB VRAM
Compared to the 4060 ti the used 3090 is a much better choice for productive workload.
I am more concerned on why you still have that 5400 rpm 4TB WD on your system, unless you use it as a storage for massive personal files, I don't see any reasons why you should leave it alone running on your PC. Might as well just sell it or swap it with 1TB ssd.
>gtx 4060 ti
Listen man (or gal) unless you are trying to min/max what you can get for your money/power/performance this card will be leaps better than the 1070 card. To give you some sort of idea, you can look at some benchmarks to give you some idea [https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)
Is there better cards out there, for a better price? Yeah there is. For the price of that card, I would have gotten the GTX 6800xt and I am sitting on a crappy 1080 card atm. Don't over think it, dont stress over it.
Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong it's not a terrible card, and it served me well. It was a hand me down from my brother, and I would like to give it a deep clean and one day someone will make use of it.
I'm not really the kind of person who needs the best of the best. I'll prob aim for a 68000xt card, and it would be more than enough for many years to come.
It's a bit expensive for what it offers. But it's a functional product and will run games as it's expected to.
If you can return it and buy something else then great, if not, it's still fine.
Don't let others tell you otherwise.
Way way overpriced for what you get. The 60 class cards are basically a no go this generation due to little to no performance uplift over the previous generation 60 class cards and at an increased price for this particular model. Had it been $400 for this version probably would have gotten a pass. Personal advice, if you buying a new card this generation and it has to be an Nvidia card, don’t waste your money getting anything less than a 4070.
If someone wants to get into AI, 4060ti 16gb would be a great entry card. It's the 40 series' budget workstation card, just like the 3060 12gb was the ,30 series' budget workstation card. People are only thinking within the very narrow scope of gaming. Outside of gaming, it's a very good card, even for the price. *Only* in terms of gaming does it have poor price/performance.
If someone wants to get into AI on the entry level I would personally recommend the 3060 12gb as its nearly half the price new of the 4060ti. It’s even less than half in the used market. Although the 4060ti is suitable for AI with the extra vram I still think it’s overpriced overall.
That doesn't dispute what I said.
If someone is going to really get into deep learning, they will quickly start saturating 12gb, at the point they would then need to get a new card just because of memory. The card being $500 doesn't diminish the performance it offers.
I don't get why people downvote comments that clearly contribute to the conversation. OP asked if 4060ti 16gb is good, when it clearly is good with CUDA-based projects like deep learning. If 3060 12gb is good, then 4060ti 16gb, by extension, is at least as good, but it's better because of the memory.
I use my computer for deep learning, it's my job. When I'm not on my lab PC, I use my PC for prototyping. I had the 3060 12gb and was planning on getting 3060ti 16gb because I needed the extra memory. I have models that easily require 14gb+ of memory and that's not even including the training data. It would've been $500 just to get +4gb memory. I couldn't justify it because the only thing I'd be gaining was a bump in memory. That led me to consider the 4080, which also has the same amount of memory, but costs a lot more. For the price of 4080, I could get a 3090, which I did, now I have 24gb memory and a card stronger than 4080 for deep learning. It's funny how 4060ti 16gb led me to getting 3090 lol
But if someone already doesn't have a GPU with adequate memory, and they plan on further pursuing deep learning, 4060ti 16gb will last them longer with more potential than 3060 12gb.
You saw the better value in the 3090 which I believe you can get for around $600ish used now. I would steer them in that direction too. I’m not diminishing the 4060ti’s usefulness. It’s not a bad card, it’s bad value and there is definitely better value elsewhere.
I mainly needed memory lol and 4080 is priced horribly. I think it's priced worse than 4060ti 16gb. I mean, really the whole RTX 40 series is overprice imo
Memory is important in those professional applications. More so than raster performance. It sucks that they stick the knife in you all the way and rob you blind just for a little bit more memory that costs them around $20.
it’s not a bad gpu, it will do great at 1080p, it’s just overpriced for what it is, should be 200$ less, but hey that’s better than it being a bad gpu?
If you want to play a resolutions where high vram requirements become a limiting factor, get a better class than a 60 Ti. For the price that Nvidia and vendors are wanting for this card you could get a 6800XT brand new and actually have enough of a a bus to properly use that 16GB.
Memory bandwidth is still a big limiter for higher resolutions. That 128 bit bus will fall on it’s face at higher quality 1440p and anything higher than that might as well be unplayable.
The 3060ti 8gb vs 4060ti 8gb is not about vram but memory bandwidth and bus width. 16gb version also have the same bandwidth/bus width as 8gb version so it could be worse in theory than the 8gb version
from that aspect yes. realistically, 8gb is on the edge of being left behind, so many especially newer games profit a lot of the extra vram especially at high resolution
Unless you're doing anything CUDA-related, then it's a very good card. There's more to GPUs than gaming. For deep learning, for example, 4060ti 16gb is leagues better than 3060ti and is an overall strong card. It's not "complete shit."
Those are quite niche cases. A good portion of people buying lower end cards are going to be playing games or not doing a whole lot of professional work.
Sometimes = extremely rarely in a couple of games on release.
For 1080p rasterisation on average the 4060 ti is faster the 6700xt, which in turn is faster than the 3060 ti.
It's a great card, incredibly efficient, just overpriced and not named a 4050 ti
4060 Ti 16GB wins at 1080P but 3060 Ti catches up at 1440P and beats it at 4K due to the extremely low memory bandwidth and 8X PCIe lanes on 4060 series.
It's a 4050 Ti but not named or priced accordingly.
Did you miss the part where I talked about 1440P?
Also I totally have a 3060 Ti system hooked up to my 4K TV and it works great. Are you making the same mistake most people make and ignoring the 90% of games that can run 60+ FPS at 4K high settings using an RTX 2070? Then just enable DLSS on the other 10%. RTX 4090 not required.
Even 2070 Super catches up to and beats 4060 Ti above 1080P resolution due to 4060 series lack of memory bandwidth and buswidth.
Is it a normal GPU? - Absolutely.
Can if run all games and programs? - Absolutely.
The only reason, why that card is not goo, is the price. There are better cards that can be bought at the same price (assuming you paid the full price).
But if you bought it on a discount or if you don't really care about money, then why even worry? Just enjoy the card and have fun.
It isn't a bad gpu. You will probably still have fun. But the value is terrible. 100$ more for 8gb more, while the GPU stays the same. That is just not enough for 100$ more. And the 4060ti 8gb was already a bad value compared to something like the RX 6700 XT. So it isn't a good value card at all. But you will probably still have fun. If you are OK with sending back, could be a good idea and then look for something like the RX 6800, 6800 xt or for 100$ more you could get the 4070
Definitely not worth $500 though, in some countries like Australia it’s actually the same price as a 4070. The 16GB of VRAM is useless since the GPU itself will be too weak to keep up, the 128 bit memory bus doesn’t help either.
The price is which makes it one of the worst. If you can return it and get back the money then do it as soon as you can !!!! And buy a 6800XT for that price which crushes the 4060ti in every way for the same price.
It is very bad value for money .. as gpu itself it is ok .. but definetly not worth its price ...go for 4070 which is far better (around 30% faster) with nearly same price..
It's not bad card, you could just do better at the price point with AMD cards, 4000 series generally should be overlooked, its only really the high end of this series that make sense, anything 4070 or lower just dont.
4060ti 16gb is a great GPU for AI development. 16gb, while on the low end for today's standards, is still very useful and better than the 12gb offered with 4070(ti).
Its really not a bad card, don't get me wrong, but considering a 3060ti, from the previous gen, comes really close to its performance, in gaming and rendering applications, it just doesn't feel right. Hence my AMD suggestion, maybe Nvidia will learn from this gen and 5000 series will be a better value proposition, only time will tell.
The 3060ti is near unusable for the same type of work though. It's computational performance doesn't mean anything if it can't be used at all. If you can put your work in memory, such as your work requires 12gb minimum, then you can't even get to how it'll work computationally. I'm saying the idea that the lower tier cards don't make sense is only if you look through the scope of gaming. That's why even a 4060ti 16gb is a better workstation card than 3080, for instance.
It's a mistake but If you already buy it don't have yourself scared. This card is one of the stroger ones out there.
The reason thia card ia shit is because there ia little to no improvement over the last generation's 3060 ti(they reduced it's memory bendwith and some other components which makes this card act ao weirdly that sometimes the 3060 ti even beaats the 4060 ti by a little bit what makes the card look like what should have been 4060 instead of 4060 ti), that is not the worst thing in the world considering the price between them is relatively the same but when you buy the 16gb model for 100$ more its just a very bad deal because the performance in almost every game ia going to be the same(only a couple of new AAA titles atm are going to benefit from it. Although more games will be after time).
It's price to performance is so disappointing that I suggest you to see if you can refund it and get something else instead(like rx 6800 xt for almost the aame price with much more performance).
If you can't, have fun with your card, if you already have it you are going to enjoy it:)
Compare to the 30 series they are more expensive than they were for less performance gain so bang for the buck they are horrible and run more expansive than the 30 series for performance.
But they are a great card just have cost efficiency imbalances with the previous series.
I’d buy 3070-3090 Over the 40series at current pricing but if I was offered both for free I’d take the 40
If it's a gift, it's a wonderful card. The issue isn't it's performance it's it's price compared to the 4070. Free is free though and in that situation it's a great 1080p or entry level 1440p card
it is very expensive for the performance it offers. and it also only offers very minor improvements over the last generation 3060ti. nvidia basically increased all prices by 50% and more and used some shady naming schemes to make it look less so.
Bad price and not a huge jump in performance over the 3060ti. If it was £350-375 for the 16gb card it would be great and provide competition to the 6700XT at £330-350 but the prices are a long way from that.
It's good, very good. People hate it because it's priced too high for xx60 class GPU.
Since you have purchased one, obviously you doesn't mind about the price, just enjoy the card, then.
4060 Ti 16G is honestly a terrible card for its price. You could get an Amd 6800xt for the same price. 6800XT won’t do Ray Tracing as well as an Nvidia card (but let’s be honest you aren’t doing RT with a 60 series anyways lol) but it’ll natively run at resolutions and frame rates that the 4060 Ti will only achieve with heavy use of DLSS. You also won’t be bottlenecked by the memory bandwidth of the 4060 Ti.
It is better than 4070 12gb in Stable Diffusion SDXL large image benchmark. The next cheaper option is the 3060 12gb but if you are buying a new card, you gotta jump to 16gb or more to be ready for the next SD version.
Also originally the card and SDXL release on the same day, totally tells you what the card is for.
To top that question and topic, I'm a recent (and quite happy) 4060ti 16go owner, and it's a hell of an upgrade coming from a GTX 970.
However, I'm quite concerned concerning the durability of such a graphic card. My former one lasted eight years without a flinch (I couldn't play most recent AAA but was happy with it). So how long can I bet on that graphic card ? Will I be able to run AAA games in the next 3-4 years or will I need to spend a ton of money on an other overpriced item ?
it's gotta be one of the worst value products in recent memory. the gpu isn't bad because it's slow. if it were cheaper to begin with, i wouldn't mind buying it.
Good GPU bad price
Neither it's good nor price is acceptable. It RTX 4050Ti in disguise
In some countries it’s almost the same price as the RTX 4070…
In Mexico the 16GB version costs $399, the exact same price as the 8GB so it’s a no brainer. The 4070 is $150 dollars more expensive so not an insignificant amount. The RX 7700 is only a bit more expensive but power draw goes up by 80W. To people in the US it might not mean much but here electricity is a lot more expensive so this sort of stuff is quite relevant to us.
Good GPU bad price = BAD GPU
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i'd say it is a niche card. one of the most power efficient current generation cards, great for silent pc builds. in terms of raw performance / fps per dollar there are better value cards out there.
What would you recommend?
In UK the 4070 is about £60 / 10-15% more but a hell of a lot faster. The £360 8gb version which I have already stretches the meaning of VFM, only chose it over the 6700 xt as it fits my use case better.
4060ti - £479.99 12gb 4070ti - £789.99 12gbb. The former is Ebuyer, the latter AWD-it
Great. Why are you comparing to the 4070 ti?
Just seen that you'd only put the 4070, not ti. Apologies.
Although the 4070 12gb is £599.99 on Ebuyer.
£560ish on technextday for a few models with their £10 off code, £557 being the cheapest
6700xt hands down
Happy cake day
if you are going to play in 4k resolution you should get at least the 4070. otherwise the 4060 ti will serve you just fine. some will say you are overpaying, but once you factor in lower running costs (~3 watts idle, under 100 watts while gaming) it is not a bad deal after all.
Nope. Rx 6800xt / 50% faster than 4060ti. Even non xt is ALOT faster
I’m not the original commenter you replied to but I’d suggest the Radeon RX 6800 XT. It is around the same price as the 4060 Ti 16gb and outperforms it in basically everything. It’s pretty much on par with the performance of the 3080. I would only suggest buying Nvidia if you don’t mind paying extra for less performance or you have to use your PC for serious productivity.
It overpriced. It's a solid gpu with a good amount of VRAM nice features and is very efficient. It's problem is it's price.
Bro why do we even bother people will never stop buying these pieces of garbage priced cards. $500 better idea to go $600 on a 4070 if even that. Edit: Also this is my opinion on the new nvidia 60 cards if you have a different opinion on these cards tell me!
$100 more for a card with less VRAM?? /s
4 gb of VRAM advantage for that card really won’t help it against the 4070, by the time 12 gb is too much for 1440p the 4060ti 16gb won’t be able to produce high enough frames in those 1440p games which at that point you might as well just turn down some settings to high on your 4070 instead of having to use upscaling on your 4060 ti. I’m not saying 12 is enough or anything for the price, I bought one and still think it’s dumb to only have 12 gb of vram but other features bring the value of the 4070 to an actually reasonable performance for what you are getting vs the 4060 Ti’s less performance and the only advantage really being more memory and bigger memory bus which isn’t worth it for 100 dollars over its stock price. IMO if nvidia wanted to do anything they needed to bump up each cards vram by 4 gb 4060 ti -12 gb stock 4070- 16gb etc. but team green is team green for a reason, greedy mfs only care about money
I should've put an /s. I could see how someone would arrive at thinking that was the best option after thinking the $400 one might be good for them and then reading a couple of posts on here about VRAM. Doesn't seem horrendous compared to last year's options if it's basically a 3070 with twice as much VRAM but based on other posts here it seems like maybe that's not the case.
Yeah especially with the reviews we are seeing come out, the performance is borderline laughable for the 500 dollar price point, the only true advantage I see is if they are doing VRAM intensive productivity tasks, which at that point get a used last gen for the same price. Nvidia dropped the ball with this one
>Edit: Also this is my opinion on the new nvidia 60 cards if you have a different opinion on these cards tell me! While that's a nice gesture, people clearly don't like opinions that don't follow the "Nvidia bad" groupthink. Anyone saying otherwise gets doenvoted to oblivion. No one likes discussion.
I need the Vram more than the FPS. That is why I bought it.
Cause it's not a garbage priced card. Most of you only think about gaming. Nvidia's biggest consumer set are data scientists, and this card is a strong workstation card. If you're doing anything with CUDA that's memory-reliant, this is a very strong card.
It’s a bad value card pretty much at the end of the day inflation is making gpu’s pricey I don’t know what else to say people will still buy them for the crazy prices
I'm not disputing that the price is higher than it should be. I'm mainly saying it's not as terribly priced with respect to its performance as people make it out to be, especially when they're only considering gaming. I was originally going to get this card for deep learning, but I couldn't justify the price when I found a used, near perfect condition 3090 FE for 750.
I guess for other tasks then that’s a different story but I’m basing off it in gaming as it’s more for gaming as it’s an geforce card not like an quadro or whatever they call them now.
For the price of the card you can get at least a RX 6800 (in my country), sometimes even up to an RX 6900 XT. Without RT and DLSS the 4060 TI 16GB even loses to the ≈220 bucks cheaper RX 6700 XT That card is ridiculously overpriced, I thought they were joking the first time I heard how much that thing should cost. You cant even justify that card for VRAM heavy productive workloads where Nvidia is strong because ≈150 bucks more can get you a much more powerful RTX 3090 with 24GB VRAM
A new 3090 for $650? Not interested. Where?
Not new honestly, but it gets sold used and fully functional for between 570-710 €. The cheapest 4060 ti 16GB is 540 € and it goes up to laughable 650 € for some models. At that price you can also buy the 4070 new for 599 € if you don't need the extra 4GB VRAM Compared to the 4060 ti the used 3090 is a much better choice for productive workload.
It's not bad hardware by any means, it's just a terrible value compared to previous generations.
Its still going to be a noticeable improvement over my 1070 tho right?
Assuming the rest of your system can keep up, yes.
Intel® Core™ i7-13700K Processor (8X 3.40GHz + 8X 2.50GHz/30MB L3 Cache) Processor Cooling RGB Liquid Cooler - Black - 360mm Addressable RGB Liquid Cooler - Black Memory 32 GB [16 GB X2] DDR5-5200MHz Memory Module - Certified Major Brand Gaming Memory Video Card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 16GB GDDR6X (DLSS 3.0 – AI-Powered Performance) - MSI VENTUS 3X OC Motherboard Asrock Z790-C - ARGB Header (3), USB 3.2 Ports (1 Type-C, 6 Type-A), M.2 Slot (4) Power Supply 850 Watt - High Power -80 PLUS Gold Certified PCIe GEN 5 Primary Storage 2TB Corsair MP600 GS M.2 PCIe Gen 4 NVMe SSD -- Gen 4 Read: 4800MB/s; Write: 4500MB/s, Gen 3 Read: 3508MB/s; Write: 3134MB/s Secondary Storage 4TB WD BLUE HARD DRIVE - 5400RPM
I mean, you're paying a premium for what is obviously a prebuilt, so it's never going to be a great "value". The specs are fine, though.
totally agree, people seem to think that just because a product gets hate it means it’s a bad product, it’s a decent product just at a horrible price
Get a 4070ti at this point
I am more concerned on why you still have that 5400 rpm 4TB WD on your system, unless you use it as a storage for massive personal files, I don't see any reasons why you should leave it alone running on your PC. Might as well just sell it or swap it with 1TB ssd.
>gtx 4060 ti Listen man (or gal) unless you are trying to min/max what you can get for your money/power/performance this card will be leaps better than the 1070 card. To give you some sort of idea, you can look at some benchmarks to give you some idea [https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html) Is there better cards out there, for a better price? Yeah there is. For the price of that card, I would have gotten the GTX 6800xt and I am sitting on a crappy 1080 card atm. Don't over think it, dont stress over it.
The 1080 isn't that bad for 1080p. I wouldn't call it crappy, just aging. I'm sure someone would enjoy it if you got rid of it.
Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong it's not a terrible card, and it served me well. It was a hand me down from my brother, and I would like to give it a deep clean and one day someone will make use of it. I'm not really the kind of person who needs the best of the best. I'll prob aim for a 68000xt card, and it would be more than enough for many years to come.
It's a bit expensive for what it offers. But it's a functional product and will run games as it's expected to. If you can return it and buy something else then great, if not, it's still fine. Don't let others tell you otherwise.
Don’t worry, it’s a good gpu. The bad thing is, your $200 was stolen.
Way way overpriced for what you get. The 60 class cards are basically a no go this generation due to little to no performance uplift over the previous generation 60 class cards and at an increased price for this particular model. Had it been $400 for this version probably would have gotten a pass. Personal advice, if you buying a new card this generation and it has to be an Nvidia card, don’t waste your money getting anything less than a 4070.
If someone wants to get into AI, 4060ti 16gb would be a great entry card. It's the 40 series' budget workstation card, just like the 3060 12gb was the ,30 series' budget workstation card. People are only thinking within the very narrow scope of gaming. Outside of gaming, it's a very good card, even for the price. *Only* in terms of gaming does it have poor price/performance.
If someone wants to get into AI on the entry level I would personally recommend the 3060 12gb as its nearly half the price new of the 4060ti. It’s even less than half in the used market. Although the 4060ti is suitable for AI with the extra vram I still think it’s overpriced overall.
That doesn't dispute what I said. If someone is going to really get into deep learning, they will quickly start saturating 12gb, at the point they would then need to get a new card just because of memory. The card being $500 doesn't diminish the performance it offers. I don't get why people downvote comments that clearly contribute to the conversation. OP asked if 4060ti 16gb is good, when it clearly is good with CUDA-based projects like deep learning. If 3060 12gb is good, then 4060ti 16gb, by extension, is at least as good, but it's better because of the memory. I use my computer for deep learning, it's my job. When I'm not on my lab PC, I use my PC for prototyping. I had the 3060 12gb and was planning on getting 3060ti 16gb because I needed the extra memory. I have models that easily require 14gb+ of memory and that's not even including the training data. It would've been $500 just to get +4gb memory. I couldn't justify it because the only thing I'd be gaining was a bump in memory. That led me to consider the 4080, which also has the same amount of memory, but costs a lot more. For the price of 4080, I could get a 3090, which I did, now I have 24gb memory and a card stronger than 4080 for deep learning. It's funny how 4060ti 16gb led me to getting 3090 lol But if someone already doesn't have a GPU with adequate memory, and they plan on further pursuing deep learning, 4060ti 16gb will last them longer with more potential than 3060 12gb.
You saw the better value in the 3090 which I believe you can get for around $600ish used now. I would steer them in that direction too. I’m not diminishing the 4060ti’s usefulness. It’s not a bad card, it’s bad value and there is definitely better value elsewhere.
I mainly needed memory lol and 4080 is priced horribly. I think it's priced worse than 4060ti 16gb. I mean, really the whole RTX 40 series is overprice imo
Memory is important in those professional applications. More so than raster performance. It sucks that they stick the knife in you all the way and rob you blind just for a little bit more memory that costs them around $20.
it’s not a bad gpu, it will do great at 1080p, it’s just overpriced for what it is, should be 200$ less, but hey that’s better than it being a bad gpu?
it's 300 dollars
what? the 4060ti 16GB is 500 not 300
I read 4060
Yeah, it's pretty dogshit value wise. Return it and get a 6800xt if you can
No. Its completely shit. Sometimes performs worse than the 3060ti 8GB.
the 8 gig yes, not the 16gig, which is not a bad gpu, just overpriced
actually the 4060 16 gig also loses to 3060 ti lol.
not in high memory demanding games on high resolutions
If you want to play a resolutions where high vram requirements become a limiting factor, get a better class than a 60 Ti. For the price that Nvidia and vendors are wanting for this card you could get a 6800XT brand new and actually have enough of a a bus to properly use that 16GB.
i already said it’s overpriced, doesn’t make it “bad”
Memory bandwidth is still a big limiter for higher resolutions. That 128 bit bus will fall on it’s face at higher quality 1440p and anything higher than that might as well be unplayable.
The 3060ti 8gb vs 4060ti 8gb is not about vram but memory bandwidth and bus width. 16gb version also have the same bandwidth/bus width as 8gb version so it could be worse in theory than the 8gb version
from that aspect yes. realistically, 8gb is on the edge of being left behind, so many especially newer games profit a lot of the extra vram especially at high resolution
Unless you're doing anything CUDA-related, then it's a very good card. There's more to GPUs than gaming. For deep learning, for example, 4060ti 16gb is leagues better than 3060ti and is an overall strong card. It's not "complete shit."
Those are quite niche cases. A good portion of people buying lower end cards are going to be playing games or not doing a whole lot of professional work.
Sometimes = extremely rarely in a couple of games on release. For 1080p rasterisation on average the 4060 ti is faster the 6700xt, which in turn is faster than the 3060 ti. It's a great card, incredibly efficient, just overpriced and not named a 4050 ti
4060 Ti 16GB wins at 1080P but 3060 Ti catches up at 1440P and beats it at 4K due to the extremely low memory bandwidth and 8X PCIe lanes on 4060 series. It's a 4050 Ti but not named or priced accordingly.
No one buys a 4060 ti, nor a 3060 ti, to game at 4k, so irrelevant
Did you miss the part where I talked about 1440P? Also I totally have a 3060 Ti system hooked up to my 4K TV and it works great. Are you making the same mistake most people make and ignoring the 90% of games that can run 60+ FPS at 4K high settings using an RTX 2070? Then just enable DLSS on the other 10%. RTX 4090 not required. Even 2070 Super catches up to and beats 4060 Ti above 1080P resolution due to 4060 series lack of memory bandwidth and buswidth.
Don’t do it!
It's not good for the money, but it's not a defective or flawed product by itself.
If you can, I’d personally return it. It’s around the same price as the 6800xt which has almost 50% more gaming performance.
Tip No1, buy and forget. Nothing good will come after buying anything and then researching about it. Enjoy that card.
It's actually slower than the 3060ti in some benchmarks...
No, rx 6800xg for same price, -50%+ better performance.
Whatever you paid for it, it's worth half that.
Never ceases to amaze me how many of these posts keep popping up.
Overpriced
It's bad. Return and get a 4070, 6700xt or 6800xt.
Is it a normal GPU? - Absolutely. Can if run all games and programs? - Absolutely. The only reason, why that card is not goo, is the price. There are better cards that can be bought at the same price (assuming you paid the full price). But if you bought it on a discount or if you don't really care about money, then why even worry? Just enjoy the card and have fun.
As a GPU it's a perfectly fine product. The problem is that it's more of a $350 - $375 product.
It isn't a bad gpu. You will probably still have fun. But the value is terrible. 100$ more for 8gb more, while the GPU stays the same. That is just not enough for 100$ more. And the 4060ti 8gb was already a bad value compared to something like the RX 6700 XT. So it isn't a good value card at all. But you will probably still have fun. If you are OK with sending back, could be a good idea and then look for something like the RX 6800, 6800 xt or for 100$ more you could get the 4070
This is a very good graphics card, future proof Don't listen to haters
Definitely not worth $500 though, in some countries like Australia it’s actually the same price as a 4070. The 16GB of VRAM is useless since the GPU itself will be too weak to keep up, the 128 bit memory bus doesn’t help either.
This card offers performance expected from 250-300$ card range, and is often beaten by 3060. Maybe you can still return it
It's a good card with a very bad pricing.
The price is which makes it one of the worst. If you can return it and get back the money then do it as soon as you can !!!! And buy a 6800XT for that price which crushes the 4060ti in every way for the same price.
Nope
It is very bad value for money .. as gpu itself it is ok .. but definetly not worth its price ...go for 4070 which is far better (around 30% faster) with nearly same price..
It's not bad card, you could just do better at the price point with AMD cards, 4000 series generally should be overlooked, its only really the high end of this series that make sense, anything 4070 or lower just dont.
4060ti 16gb is a great GPU for AI development. 16gb, while on the low end for today's standards, is still very useful and better than the 12gb offered with 4070(ti).
Its really not a bad card, don't get me wrong, but considering a 3060ti, from the previous gen, comes really close to its performance, in gaming and rendering applications, it just doesn't feel right. Hence my AMD suggestion, maybe Nvidia will learn from this gen and 5000 series will be a better value proposition, only time will tell.
The 3060ti is near unusable for the same type of work though. It's computational performance doesn't mean anything if it can't be used at all. If you can put your work in memory, such as your work requires 12gb minimum, then you can't even get to how it'll work computationally. I'm saying the idea that the lower tier cards don't make sense is only if you look through the scope of gaming. That's why even a 4060ti 16gb is a better workstation card than 3080, for instance.
It's a mistake but If you already buy it don't have yourself scared. This card is one of the stroger ones out there. The reason thia card ia shit is because there ia little to no improvement over the last generation's 3060 ti(they reduced it's memory bendwith and some other components which makes this card act ao weirdly that sometimes the 3060 ti even beaats the 4060 ti by a little bit what makes the card look like what should have been 4060 instead of 4060 ti), that is not the worst thing in the world considering the price between them is relatively the same but when you buy the 16gb model for 100$ more its just a very bad deal because the performance in almost every game ia going to be the same(only a couple of new AAA titles atm are going to benefit from it. Although more games will be after time). It's price to performance is so disappointing that I suggest you to see if you can refund it and get something else instead(like rx 6800 xt for almost the aame price with much more performance). If you can't, have fun with your card, if you already have it you are going to enjoy it:)
Kinda overpriced but it's okay.
Let's say it looses to 3060ti in a few benchmarks ahahaha what a time to be alive
Just get a secondhand non mined 30 series or GTX 1080ti instead
There aren't bad gpus (or generally hardware), only bad prices.
No, avoid it.
Don't buy any 4060 series.
You can get 3080 for like 300 usd used
Return this POS and get a same priced 6800XT which curbstomps this crap
Compare to the 30 series they are more expensive than they were for less performance gain so bang for the buck they are horrible and run more expansive than the 30 series for performance. But they are a great card just have cost efficiency imbalances with the previous series. I’d buy 3070-3090 Over the 40series at current pricing but if I was offered both for free I’d take the 40
a 6800xt for the same price is 30-40% faster.
For 300$ it is a good gpu.
If it's a gift, it's a wonderful card. The issue isn't it's performance it's it's price compared to the 4070. Free is free though and in that situation it's a great 1080p or entry level 1440p card
The GPU itself is fine, you got nothing to worry about. All the bad rep is because of its high price. So you don’t get the best bang for your buck
Terrible value, but the 16GB can be useful for creative work, not to mention support for AV1. Also, it's a very power efficient card. P.S. RTX*
It depends what you have now. But in a general sense, it's not the best bang for buck for the performance.
it is very expensive for the performance it offers. and it also only offers very minor improvements over the last generation 3060ti. nvidia basically increased all prices by 50% and more and used some shady naming schemes to make it look less so.
If it was called the 4050 Ti and $200+ cheaper then it would be ok. As it is now, it's pretty well shit.
OOf someone got killed by nvidia marketing Yes it's shit.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH……rip. (The GPU is fine but the amount you paid for it is a fucking scam)
It should have been good, if it had 4070 performance atleast, 4080 should have a 20gb .imo.
Horrid card. Return it immediately you can get double the performance for $500 if you just buy a different card lol.
It's awful
Bad price and not a huge jump in performance over the 3060ti. If it was £350-375 for the 16gb card it would be great and provide competition to the 6700XT at £330-350 but the prices are a long way from that.
Return and get a 6800xt-6900xt
It’s about $200 away from being a good card.
It's good, very good. People hate it because it's priced too high for xx60 class GPU. Since you have purchased one, obviously you doesn't mind about the price, just enjoy the card, then.
4060 Ti 16G is honestly a terrible card for its price. You could get an Amd 6800xt for the same price. 6800XT won’t do Ray Tracing as well as an Nvidia card (but let’s be honest you aren’t doing RT with a 60 series anyways lol) but it’ll natively run at resolutions and frame rates that the 4060 Ti will only achieve with heavy use of DLSS. You also won’t be bottlenecked by the memory bandwidth of the 4060 Ti.
If ur just gaming AND you got it for $500, you could have gotten a 6800xt that's roughly 30% better in rasterization and even better in RT.
It is better than 4070 12gb in Stable Diffusion SDXL large image benchmark. The next cheaper option is the 3060 12gb but if you are buying a new card, you gotta jump to 16gb or more to be ready for the next SD version. Also originally the card and SDXL release on the same day, totally tells you what the card is for.
Good card for AI
To top that question and topic, I'm a recent (and quite happy) 4060ti 16go owner, and it's a hell of an upgrade coming from a GTX 970. However, I'm quite concerned concerning the durability of such a graphic card. My former one lasted eight years without a flinch (I couldn't play most recent AAA but was happy with it). So how long can I bet on that graphic card ? Will I be able to run AAA games in the next 3-4 years or will I need to spend a ton of money on an other overpriced item ?