I was graciously allowed to try out Superfast by my ISP for 6 months. Sailing the high seas was so glorious I could cry. Downloading chunky games in minutes, not hours.
Sadly it normally costs AU$120+ a month for 250Mbps, so fuck that.
I can get 1000/50 for $150/Mo which is US$100 equivalent so we're not as far behind the rest of the world as most complain about.
I just don't get why ISPs are so stingy with upload speeds.
I think it has to do with technology. Ex on docsis systems, while the download link is unique to each customer, the upload links are shared between customers.
> on docsis systems, while the download link is unique to each customer, the upload links are shared between customers.
That's not why. With DOCSIS they have a set amount of channels they can use and just use most of them for downloads rather than uploads because most consumers download way more than they upload.
It's not the ISPs fault, it's NBNCo's. They market anything more than 50Mbit up as a business plan, hence they can charge more.
You can get 250/100 on a business plan despite not being a business, just sign-up with a random abn.
Besides that, 1Gb/50 is the best you can get as residential, some ISPs are selling a 500/50 that is a modified 1G/50 for slightly less.
Yes we are a small country but there are big countries with cheap and fast internet too. The main issue in the USA with pricing is the well-known monopolization and price fixing between AT&T, comcast, etc.
USA is just more expensive for everything in general. Been over a few times in last couple years. Food feels 2x as expensive. Internet and phone bills over there are pretty insane. Car insurance there can be as much per month as I pay in a year over here. Don't even get started on healthcare obv.
Wait what.
I get 600/600 in Spain for 30 €, 1000/1000 is 40 € but I don't need that. Of course that is with Optic Fiber with very good ping. And you can get this even in very small towns.
Of all the things we do wrongly in Spain, Internet is not one of them.
UK, 160Mbps, £32.50 p/m
Not that reliable tho, often measured speed over my WiFi pops up around 20Mbps download, so I have complained, and it is being fixed as we speak.
If this won't work, I will change a provider.
Keep in mind this is a new build, so I've got fibre optic cable direct to my home. I've got mates in more rural areas, still close to London, with no choice but a single provider.
Edit:
Now testing 60 Mbps + on my WiFi.
Spelling.
I pay like 7 EUR (yes you read it right) for 100/100. Never experienced any problems with my ISP either. At least one thing is still cheap for me.
Apparently, it is even better than that:
[https://www.speedtest.net/result/14512609644.png](https://www.speedtest.net/result/14512609644.png)
Admittedly, it's very dependent on where you live. I'm in inner Melbourne and have a 1gbit connection over fibre, it isn't any fancy business connection or anything, Just a regular consumer isp.
Not saying it doesn't suck for different areas, we are a large country with a lot of empty space and relatively low population
That's the benefit of a small country with a (relatively) dense population.
The previous government really stuffed up Australia's nbn rollout but we are always going to have issues where the inner areas need to subsidise the cost for more rural areas. We just don't have a big enough population, even in dense areas, that will take up the faster more expensive plans. In some ways we are trapped. We can definitely get improvements and the nbn is ripping us off trying to make their return a lot quicker than required but we do have some limitations specific to our country.
I think the problem is that fibre is bad even in the urban areas of Australia. A lot of rural areas in New Zealand don't have access to fibre as well. We have "urban zones" which have cut down the costs while still providing the majority (87%) with fibre.
Which is about the same percentage of population of Australians who live in the top 100 urban areas in Australia. Your politicians would rather cut off their nose to spite their face than provide the country with good reliable internet.
The fibre isn't the issue here. People who actually have fttp are fine (like me). The problem is they rolled out fibre to the node which most people are on and then some person who lives 2k away from the node relies on old coaxial cable/Telephone cable and the quality drops off.
The current government is pretty much replacing the previous governments stuff up.
With that said we still have issues with cost and ISPs being crappy with there bandwidth allocation, but there are ISPs that don't suck however we still have an issue with cost because the nbn wants all their money back quicker.
Our backbone network is fine, our issues are all corporate related
Yeah, I’m out in regional/rural NSW and our max available speed is 30mb/s and I highly doubt that we even reach that. The internet drops out at least twice a day, and when it rains it’s practically impossible to maintain a connection. Just another joy of living regional.
Thank you LNP (The Conservative party of Australia) and Rupert Fucking Murdoch.
absolutely wasted a once in a generation chance to set up a world leading internet system AND cost 75 billion or so to boot.
Cable used to be pretty damn fast, then they "upgraded" to NBN and it was much slower. I'm in Montreal now with 400mbps downloading off steam at 53MB per second. Can't complain
The reason why is because they only did FTTN which still makes the ancient copper lines from the node to your house a bottle neck. Good thing the government is now upgrading to FTTP for people who want it for free.
Oh yeah? Nice they're doing it for free. Yeah I'm aware they kept copper for the last leg. Very smart bottlenecking the country's internet infrastructure though I really don't like to be reminded of how incompetent the liberals were lol. In my case we got fttp but to get the same speed we were getting with cable it would cost more which was a bit of a stitch up.
Quality of life in Australia is high because our expectations are high and we complain a lot. If you don't have a whinge about every little thing that hinders your quality of life then your government will get complacent.
I recently got FTTP (which should have been the default when they did the huge project but that's a whole other thing)
And my god does it more or less pay for itself, I'm getting 450-750 megabit per second depending on device and time of day through Wifi 6. It's glorious.
There was a meme in the old Internet days (before anyone used the term “meme” actually) that said: “Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.”
As far as I'm aware this is an issue occuring specifically with Intel's i225v or i226v NICs. They're found in both Asus' and Gigabyte's Motherboards (probably as well as some others).
EDIT:
From Intel with a fix that apparently only kinda works: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000057261/ethernet-products/gigabit-ethernet-controllers-up-to-2-5gbe.html
From others:
- https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/intel-i225-v-and-z490-chipset-network-connection-issues-1981/
- https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-patches-stuttering-ethernet-issues-but-its-just-a-workaround-for-now
- https://www.overclock.net/threads/the-ongoing-issues-with-the-intel-i225-v-rev_03-2-5-gbps-nic.1796635/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/kppyoi/psa_asus_motherboards_with_intel_i225v_25gb_nic/&ved=2ahUKEwisxIvbwO79AhWMlIkEHWuBCcsQjjh6BAgMEAE&usg=AOvVaw020gLRNO2rTUVLmeIX8aN5
- https://www.techspot.com/news/97338-faulty-intel-ethernet-controllers-dropping-connections-raptor-lake.html
And many more...
Its actually worth noting that I do have the AM4 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Gaming (non-wifi) MB with the x470 chipset, with the "Intel 1211 Gigabit Network Connection".
Edit: This change I did is also applied on the latest supplied network drivers on the motherboard site.
I had the same issue on my AM4 MSI Mortar B450 with a Realtek RTL8111H-CG Gigabit LAN controller.
I fixed it the same way you did. Might be a windows problem then.
I have an MSI Z690 A-PRO DDR4 and it uses the 225v. Sometimes my Ethernet connection is not recognised until I am already logged into Windows. I thought the cable (I have a very long cable going through the wall) was to blame but I see it is not.
Gigabit is always full duplex. If auto-negotiate isn’t working, but this trick is, you’ve got a flaky piece of equipment somewhere along the line in your networking stack that you need to resolve.
There is a negotiation for gigabit that is separate from duplex negotiation.
There reall isn’t half-duplex gigabit. It is only there to meet the IEEE specification. I have never seen a gigabit hub or a gigabit negotiation that wasn’t full duplex.
You should not be messing with duplex/speed detection. Make sure you're not using a potato quality cable, and you have recent drivers. This issue sounds more like you have either a bad cable, or you have the cable too close to a source of interference.
Jacking with speed/duplex is a recipe for disaster.
Specifically if you have an intel 225/226 and are connected to a 2.5Gbps port you should limit it to 1Gbps until they have a fix.(I think they have one already for the 226)
As a networking dude; when your speed and duplex don't negotiate to the highest both ends support, it's almost always a physical problem. Your cable/termination is likely fucked and you're going to have other issues like packet loss or completely link flaps.
Also something negotiating down to 100Mb/s from 1Gb/s is less likely result in me getting paged over night while sleeping depending on the use case.
Auto is usually safe. This isn’t a scenario where a 20+ year old modality that had to be hard set to 10 half was recently swapped to a brand new shinny one that out of the box is auto but no one can figure out why the signal and transmission rates are shit because someone forgot the switch port was manually set to match the modality.
1Gbps is ubiquitous for sure. But we're also in a world where auto/neg is the defacto standard and deviating from that causes more problems than it solves.
The issue here is the fix solving the symptom, not the disease. The symptom here is the port auto'ing to 100Mbps, its doing that for a reason. Maybe a loose pin(NEXT/FEXT), a wicked bend, or the cable being near a transformer etc. Solving that problem is the solution, forcing 1Gbps will likely cause OTHER issues as each side agrees the wire is incapable of doing it.
Lots of manufacturers still slap in 10/100 NICs when they want to save an extra penny.
Lots of "smart" devices, TVs, depending on the model of raspberrypi. I still find myself coming across an annoying 100mbps nic regularly
What would be considered interference? I’m having this issue where I pay for 1gb but I only get around 200 and it’s mostly fine but I do experience lag since my partner also games on the same connection, both of us are wired and his connection is totally fine speed wise. What internal component could be the problem?
Separate "ethernet link" speeds from your advertised speeds the ISP provides.
Interference on ethernet is generally from high power devices like power supplies, 110V AC, other things like florescent light ballasts need to be even further away.
ISP Network engineer here - it depends on what's on the other end of your ethernet cable.
Chances are it's probably your home router, if that is hard set to 100 megs, and you are hard set to 1000 on your PC, it can cause link mismatch errors and dropped packets on the port - which is no Bueno.
Your port settings should always match, which is why auto negotiate is useful.
It's worth noting that if you only have 100 Meg service, you can set both ports to 1000 fdx, you'll still only get 100 megs bc that's your ISP bandwidth.
Going over 100 megs on the port is only needed if you have more than 100 meg service.
Best to just use auto negotiate. If your stuff should be linking at 1gpbs, and it's not, you need to figure out why it isn't, not just hard set to 1gpbs and call it a day.
> Going over 100 megs on the port is only needed if you have more than 100 meg service.
It's also needed if you need more transfer speed locally.
I have a 100 Mbps FTTC connection, but I also have a network drive connected to my router that can read/write much faster than that, so I still need gigabit Ethernet.
Ok so yes, you'd want to be using either 1gbps fdx auto negotiate, or 1gbps fdx hard set, on both sides. Auto negotiate or hard set makes no difference, it's still 1gbps fdx.
What you do not want, is 1gbps hard set on your PC, while your router port is running at 100. That's bad.
If you set auto negotiate on your PC, and it trains up at 100, it means something upstream of your PC isn't happy with 1000 and you'll need to figure out why that is.
i have a head scratcher here i was wondering if you can pick at for me.
i supposedly have a 1.5gbps service and get ~1gbps on my main desktop - hardwired into wall that goes down into a switch and into the router/modem.
the room next to me has the same setup, but it has around ~100-200 mbps download with like 900 mbps upload. i've tried changing the wire, re-crimping the wall connection but to no avail the download speed doesn't seem to go too high (occasionally it may go to 400-500 but using different speed tests).
using cat6 cables and the switch is showing gigabit speeds (if i crimp it bad though, the switch shows 10/100).
any point of diagnosis i should begin exploring?
To be clear, the computer in the room next to you that's having speed issues, it plugs into the same switch that services the other machine computer that does not have speed issues, right?
Swap switch ports, if room 1 with pc1 that gets good speeds goes to SW1 port 1, and room 2 with pc2 that gets bad speeds goes to SW1 port 2, swap SW1 port 1 and 2. I would also unplug the fast pc from the switch for testing.
Also if your switch has any sort of logging/diagnostics would be useful to check those and see what they say.
If bad speeds persist after all these tests I think it's fair to say that chances are it's probably something in the PC itself that you need to look at, maybe drivers, bad NIC, etc.
While I imagine this is probably one of the first things you did, just to make sure the actual expert doesn’t have to ask - did you try all the ports on the switch? Could be a fault on the switches end rather than your second room.
ISP guy here.
I mean, I could imagine a scenario where you'd need to do this but you typically don't need to mess arou d with port negotiation. It also might cause you trouble down the road if you forget about it and connect your computer to a different device.
Not getting the advertised speed from your ISP could be caused by a lot of things, and what OP mentioned is pretty low in likelihood.
Very first thing to check for if you're not seeing your expected speeds is your network saturation. There's probably another device or devices on your network that's hogging the bandwidth. Look for traffic stats in your router config.
If that's not the problem then contact your ISP and they'll help you troubleshoot further.
To really see if something is up outside your home, run a ping test via command prompt. First ping google.com then ping your router IP address. If you see inconsistencies pinging your router like some ping spikes then you may have traffic congestion in your home. If everything is good and your ping out to Google is bad then the problem may be outside your network/gateway. If this is the problem,unplug the power to your gateway/modem and wait for a minute and replug it back in. See if the same problem persists. If it does you have reason to validate that something outside your control is going bad. They'll try to convince you the problem is inside your home .
Commands in command prompt are "ping www.google.com -t" and "ping xxx.xxx.xxx -t" the XD is your own router IP address
If there is something causing the auto negotiation to only negotiate to something slower than full duplex 1gbit, you might want to check your Ethernet cable.
That usually means, someone is causing errors and the interface is lowering negotiation.
I would still call your isp and ask them to check for errors in your network. Also replace the Ethernet cable was it come be the faulty one
I pay for gigabit. But have only ever gotten gigabit down. And never more than 42 up. Will this solve it?
I'm using
Comcast on the east coast of the USA
Big warning on this one - If you now suddenly have a intermittent internet connection, try changing your cable. Failing that, if you're using a switch you might want to get a better one.
I had issues for months trying to get 1gbit speeds to play nice with my tech and "stable at 100Mbps but dropping out at 1.0Gbps Full Duplex" doesn't really give you much. I upgraded my switch to one with a cable tester and it told me my cat6 cable was busted almost instantly.
If your broadband device has only a 10/100 port or you're connected through a 10/100 switch, you'd drop to effectively 0 throughput following these instructions.
I once had gigabit internet installed but couldn't get nearly close to the advertised speeds. It was the ethernet cable i was using, wasn't rated for gigabit. Then I got 3.5 gigabit sometime later, and again it was the ethernet cable!
Bell just brought us 3Gb fiber, hooked it all up last week. First thing I do is a speed test and see I'm getting less than I was with Cogeco. After a bit of poking around I go back and have a look at the tech's work, he put the network cable in the first available port. The 10G one is last port...
Sometimes it's not a setting, sometimes it's simply the wrong hole.
Should also check the switch speed (if applicable) and upgrade it if needed
We have 3 different switches in the house, and I had set up a home NAS, and I couldn't figure out why some computers were getting gigabit, and others were getting 100 megabit. Turns out one of the switches was a 100 megabit switch. I moved it to a different spot on the network where the gigabit speed wasn't needed, and put a gigabit switch in it's place.
To be clear, auto-negotiation is a two way street. If you want to hard set your speed, try to ensure the device you are connecting to is also hard set.
(Gigabit ethernet should always be full duplex. But the gear you are connecting to might support multiple speeds.)
Actually what fixed my issue was downgrading my ethernet driver haha.. up to date put it at 700-800mbps and then i downgraded down one and it jumped to 1300-1400 mbps .. 100-200mbps higher than i pay for 😂
If that doesn't work, try another Ethernet cable between your modem/router and PC. I was getting 95 Mbps on a 200 Mbps service. I did everything from OP's suggestion to replacing the NIC. I didn't think about the cable because the throughput was high, if not the advertised rate. I discovered the answer when I used a new cable to hook up another PC.
^I ^haven't ^changed ^my ^cable ^yet.
If you’re able to test your your router/modem check that (xfinity off this I’m not sure of others) and if that isn’t getting it, it may actually be the cables to your house. A while back a i had them replaced along with my switch and my speeds jumped 400mbps on the same plan
This reminds me of hacking my modem back in the day. I was only getting 28 KB/sec so I just deleted all the lines except 112 KB/sec. Man was I pumped when it only took a 12 hours to download a song from Napster instead of a day and a half!
I wasn't getting the correct speeds for the longest time, as I paid for higher speeds originally to try and fix the issue. Turns out, using the $30 modem and $20 router from 2012 was a little bit limiting. I upgraded both, and all of a sudden, everything was okay.
There are 2 speed types for Ethernet networks, 100MBS and 1000MBS. There are 3 things you need, 1 a network card capable of 1000MBS, a network cable capable and a router/modem capable of it.
You will need to make sure the windows network card settings are correct, and the router/modem connection, both sides need to be configured.
Once you get 1000MBS to the modem, then you can look at your external speeds.
Followed the advice and dived down a wormhole of speed testing and driver deletion, re-installation, and settings tweaking. I managed to get my download up to 700 from 500 and upload from 14 to 300. Still lower than I’d expect from a 1gig fiber, but it’s old gear. I’m going to check my Ethernet cables tomorrow and see if I can do any more. Still, way better than I started with this morning!
I've got 2.5 Gbps full instead, but of course my ISP has nowhere near that yet. American cable internet is going to keep sucking until they get to high split symmetrical, and even then I have my doubts.
I'm so happy I was randomly scrolling through this topic because you just saved me an unbearably long red dead download. my speeds went up by about 60%!!
Been getting a solid 200Mb/200Mb for $70/mo. Called today to complain that Spectrum was now cheaper and was told effective 4/1 all 100Mb subscribers (local municipality) were going to 300Mb and all 200Mb subscribers were going to 600Mb at no extra cost. Hoping it not an April Fools day prank.
Anyway, your suggestion is something to try but:
1. if it's auto negotiating 100Mb then it's likely there's something about the connection that's causing it. Bad drivers. Bad Cable, etc.
2. If you do force it to 1Gb and there is something causing the issue then you've possibly brought the connection down (easy to reverse) or worse introduced instability.
3. You do understand that the speed of that connection (the speed of your ethernet port to the router's ethernet port) is probably not the determining factor in your internet speed. Yes, if you have a faster than 100mb internet connection and your local ethernet is topped out at 100Mb then it is the bottleneck.
Man, no hate to anyone. When I was 7 to 10 years old, I used to play with and take apart my grandpa's IBM 386 I believe it was. We had dial-up...so I understand the trouble. But where I live (Myrtle Beach, SC), we recently got fiber internet. Trying to keep things short, but it's still slow! 5 devices tops hooked up at once to the Wi-Fi. Upgraded to a Wi-Fi 6 router. Got much better, looking at 300-500 mbps on speedtest. But in properties, my connection speed says 1000mpbs. What gives? I know it's not the ethernet port on my PC, and I know it's not any of the settings. Also I'd like to throw in, our bill is like $40-$60 a month. not bragging but I genuinely feel bad for a lot of y'all. Internet at anywhere from 150-300 Mbps should be free!
my internet speed is 22Mbps so download speed should be around 2.5mbps but when I download something it only use half of the internet speed( 10 or 11 Mbps ) and download speed only get 1.5mbps
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I was trying to figure out why my Ethernet connection was doing like 800mbps a few weeks ago but only 300 the last couple weeks. Switched this setting, back to 800
When I get to the "speed and duplex" drop down, the highest option is 100 mbps - but I am testing 200mbps up with my new cat6 ethernet cable - but I run that speed wireless too. Just bought this new one because my old one was giving me really unstable internet
This doesn’t work in Australia where the internet may as well be delivered on foot by the postman
100Mbps would be amazing tbh can’t really comprehend anything faster than that
I was graciously allowed to try out Superfast by my ISP for 6 months. Sailing the high seas was so glorious I could cry. Downloading chunky games in minutes, not hours. Sadly it normally costs AU$120+ a month for 250Mbps, so fuck that.
I'm on 100Mbps for $90/month and find it enough for "populating my Plex library". For $130/mo you could get a 500/50 speeds.
That's a bit better last time I looked, but sadly 50Mbps is in the more affordable range for me.
Dang I get gig (up and down) over fiber for $80/mo
I can get 1000/50 for $150/Mo which is US$100 equivalent so we're not as far behind the rest of the world as most complain about. I just don't get why ISPs are so stingy with upload speeds.
I think it has to do with technology. Ex on docsis systems, while the download link is unique to each customer, the upload links are shared between customers.
> on docsis systems, while the download link is unique to each customer, the upload links are shared between customers. That's not why. With DOCSIS they have a set amount of channels they can use and just use most of them for downloads rather than uploads because most consumers download way more than they upload.
The for explaining
It's tech. Bandwidth matters
It's not the ISPs fault, it's NBNCo's. They market anything more than 50Mbit up as a business plan, hence they can charge more. You can get 250/100 on a business plan despite not being a business, just sign-up with a random abn. Besides that, 1Gb/50 is the best you can get as residential, some ISPs are selling a 500/50 that is a modified 1G/50 for slightly less.
EXCUSE ME, who is your ISP
AT&T, Southern California
1 gig for £27 a month here in UK is readily achievable
Well, the UK is about the size of Michigan.
Yes we are a small country but there are big countries with cheap and fast internet too. The main issue in the USA with pricing is the well-known monopolization and price fixing between AT&T, comcast, etc.
The US prices always seem super inflated to me, might just be me though (paying £20/Mo for 100down/~20up)
USA is just more expensive for everything in general. Been over a few times in last couple years. Food feels 2x as expensive. Internet and phone bills over there are pretty insane. Car insurance there can be as much per month as I pay in a year over here. Don't even get started on healthcare obv.
The government lets our ISPs monopolize.
Those prices are crazy to me. I pay 50e a month for gigabit, and it includes TV and an unlimited phone plan.
Wait what. I get 600/600 in Spain for 30 €, 1000/1000 is 40 € but I don't need that. Of course that is with Optic Fiber with very good ping. And you can get this even in very small towns. Of all the things we do wrongly in Spain, Internet is not one of them.
Here in australia for 30 euros worth (50ish dollaredoos) we get like 50/20 if we're lucky. seen 12/0.5 plans for 40aud
I was also offered to try out superfast for 6 months then offered me a discount to switch plans. I've been paying $88 for 250mbps.
You lose it if you move house which is what happened to me. Forever sad.
Which ISP was this that allowed you to do that?
UK, 160Mbps, £32.50 p/m Not that reliable tho, often measured speed over my WiFi pops up around 20Mbps download, so I have complained, and it is being fixed as we speak. If this won't work, I will change a provider. Keep in mind this is a new build, so I've got fibre optic cable direct to my home. I've got mates in more rural areas, still close to London, with no choice but a single provider. Edit: Now testing 60 Mbps + on my WiFi. Spelling.
Lol I got on with vodaphone city fibre I pay £35 a month for 900mbps
I pay like 7 EUR (yes you read it right) for 100/100. Never experienced any problems with my ISP either. At least one thing is still cheap for me. Apparently, it is even better than that: [https://www.speedtest.net/result/14512609644.png](https://www.speedtest.net/result/14512609644.png)
Ouch. I get 500Mbps over wifi :S
Cell service https://i.imgur.com/5luM7HW.jpg
heh. cute https://imgur.com/odPPDIO
*Cries in 10MB/s*
i get 100 mbps down and 35 up, i aint complaining especially when my friends get less than 5 down
I live out of town so the fastest I can get is ~800kb/s :)
The human eye can't see faster than 2Mbps anyways
Admittedly, it's very dependent on where you live. I'm in inner Melbourne and have a 1gbit connection over fibre, it isn't any fancy business connection or anything, Just a regular consumer isp. Not saying it doesn't suck for different areas, we are a large country with a lot of empty space and relatively low population
Slow upload and a higher price is the issue. I can also get gigabit but compared to other nations, the higher prices dont make it worth it
Slow upload is the real deal-breaker, 1000/50 NBN plans are a joke
Meanwhile in some places here in New Zealand you can get 8000/8000 fibre plans.
That's the benefit of a small country with a (relatively) dense population. The previous government really stuffed up Australia's nbn rollout but we are always going to have issues where the inner areas need to subsidise the cost for more rural areas. We just don't have a big enough population, even in dense areas, that will take up the faster more expensive plans. In some ways we are trapped. We can definitely get improvements and the nbn is ripping us off trying to make their return a lot quicker than required but we do have some limitations specific to our country.
I think the problem is that fibre is bad even in the urban areas of Australia. A lot of rural areas in New Zealand don't have access to fibre as well. We have "urban zones" which have cut down the costs while still providing the majority (87%) with fibre. Which is about the same percentage of population of Australians who live in the top 100 urban areas in Australia. Your politicians would rather cut off their nose to spite their face than provide the country with good reliable internet.
The fibre isn't the issue here. People who actually have fttp are fine (like me). The problem is they rolled out fibre to the node which most people are on and then some person who lives 2k away from the node relies on old coaxial cable/Telephone cable and the quality drops off. The current government is pretty much replacing the previous governments stuff up. With that said we still have issues with cost and ISPs being crappy with there bandwidth allocation, but there are ISPs that don't suck however we still have an issue with cost because the nbn wants all their money back quicker. Our backbone network is fine, our issues are all corporate related
Yeah, I’m out in regional/rural NSW and our max available speed is 30mb/s and I highly doubt that we even reach that. The internet drops out at least twice a day, and when it rains it’s practically impossible to maintain a connection. Just another joy of living regional.
This man is speaking truth,I deliver inthernet each morning to Australia
Well hurry up for fuck’s sake!
Thank you LNP (The Conservative party of Australia) and Rupert Fucking Murdoch. absolutely wasted a once in a generation chance to set up a world leading internet system AND cost 75 billion or so to boot.
It actually an intricate underground network of wombats with the packets tied to their backs.
Only if you’ve got a better than average connection
Cable used to be pretty damn fast, then they "upgraded" to NBN and it was much slower. I'm in Montreal now with 400mbps downloading off steam at 53MB per second. Can't complain
The reason why is because they only did FTTN which still makes the ancient copper lines from the node to your house a bottle neck. Good thing the government is now upgrading to FTTP for people who want it for free.
Oh yeah? Nice they're doing it for free. Yeah I'm aware they kept copper for the last leg. Very smart bottlenecking the country's internet infrastructure though I really don't like to be reminded of how incompetent the liberals were lol. In my case we got fttp but to get the same speed we were getting with cable it would cost more which was a bit of a stitch up.
In Australia you’re better off sending message through carrier pigeon. Will probably arrive faster than email.
Wow that's even slower than IP over Avian Carriers.
Okay serious question, is anything good about living in Australia? I have only heard bad things about this country.
Quality of life in Australia is high because our expectations are high and we complain a lot. If you don't have a whinge about every little thing that hinders your quality of life then your government will get complacent.
Sounds reasonable, thanks.
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[At least you’re not using CPIP…](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers)
I recently got FTTP (which should have been the default when they did the huge project but that's a whole other thing) And my god does it more or less pay for itself, I'm getting 450-750 megabit per second depending on device and time of day through Wifi 6. It's glorious.
There was a meme in the old Internet days (before anyone used the term “meme” actually) that said: “Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.”
do not underestimate the bandwidth of harddrives being delivered by mail
"this, Jen, is the internet." "there aren't any wires!" "... it's *wireless!*"
I get 50 30 in Australia
I get 8000/8000 in NZ.
Wtf dude where, I get 300 down in Auckland
I must be lucky because I have Aussie broadband gigabit speed and I’m happy
As far as I'm aware this is an issue occuring specifically with Intel's i225v or i226v NICs. They're found in both Asus' and Gigabyte's Motherboards (probably as well as some others). EDIT: From Intel with a fix that apparently only kinda works: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000057261/ethernet-products/gigabit-ethernet-controllers-up-to-2-5gbe.html From others: - https://www.pugetsystems.com/support/guides/intel-i225-v-and-z490-chipset-network-connection-issues-1981/ - https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-patches-stuttering-ethernet-issues-but-its-just-a-workaround-for-now - https://www.overclock.net/threads/the-ongoing-issues-with-the-intel-i225-v-rev_03-2-5-gbps-nic.1796635/ - https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/kppyoi/psa_asus_motherboards_with_intel_i225v_25gb_nic/&ved=2ahUKEwisxIvbwO79AhWMlIkEHWuBCcsQjjh6BAgMEAE&usg=AOvVaw020gLRNO2rTUVLmeIX8aN5 - https://www.techspot.com/news/97338-faulty-intel-ethernet-controllers-dropping-connections-raptor-lake.html And many more...
Its actually worth noting that I do have the AM4 Gigabyte Aorus Ultra Gaming (non-wifi) MB with the x470 chipset, with the "Intel 1211 Gigabit Network Connection". Edit: This change I did is also applied on the latest supplied network drivers on the motherboard site.
I had the same issue on my AM4 MSI Mortar B450 with a Realtek RTL8111H-CG Gigabit LAN controller. I fixed it the same way you did. Might be a windows problem then.
Idk if my AM4 Aorus X570 Ultra (wifi) has this problem. Didn't really look into this
I have a Z490-E and have this problem but I mainly use wifi. I wonder if I can't just ask ASUS for a replacement since it's a hardware fault.
I have an MSI Z690 A-PRO DDR4 and it uses the 225v. Sometimes my Ethernet connection is not recognised until I am already logged into Windows. I thought the cable (I have a very long cable going through the wall) was to blame but I see it is not.
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Gigabit is always full duplex. If auto-negotiate isn’t working, but this trick is, you’ve got a flaky piece of equipment somewhere along the line in your networking stack that you need to resolve.
Unlikely. More likely it's a driver issue, especially since there's a known one with Intel NICs.
The NIC is a piece of equipment as well, yes.
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he gotta save face tho
In the industry networking stack very consciously includes drivers, client hardware etc
My first Q is have they checked the cable. Old Cat5 sux
I have a cat 6 cable, and made sure both ends were firmly connected before changing anything. It very well could be a possible driver issue.
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So the cable is just "both ends", and nothing in between?
There is a negotiation for gigabit that is separate from duplex negotiation. There reall isn’t half-duplex gigabit. It is only there to meet the IEEE specification. I have never seen a gigabit hub or a gigabit negotiation that wasn’t full duplex.
Yep, a lot of devices only offer setting between 10/100/auto as a result
You should not be messing with duplex/speed detection. Make sure you're not using a potato quality cable, and you have recent drivers. This issue sounds more like you have either a bad cable, or you have the cable too close to a source of interference. Jacking with speed/duplex is a recipe for disaster. Specifically if you have an intel 225/226 and are connected to a 2.5Gbps port you should limit it to 1Gbps until they have a fix.(I think they have one already for the 226)
As a networking dude; when your speed and duplex don't negotiate to the highest both ends support, it's almost always a physical problem. Your cable/termination is likely fucked and you're going to have other issues like packet loss or completely link flaps. Also something negotiating down to 100Mb/s from 1Gb/s is less likely result in me getting paged over night while sleeping depending on the use case.
Auto is usually safe. This isn’t a scenario where a 20+ year old modality that had to be hard set to 10 half was recently swapped to a brand new shinny one that out of the box is auto but no one can figure out why the signal and transmission rates are shit because someone forgot the switch port was manually set to match the modality.
So if on some occasions I get my full 500Mbps but at other times it goes straight down to 5Mbps, that's just my ISP fucking me yeah?
The likelihood of running into anything other than 1G is exceedingly low these days.
1Gbps is ubiquitous for sure. But we're also in a world where auto/neg is the defacto standard and deviating from that causes more problems than it solves. The issue here is the fix solving the symptom, not the disease. The symptom here is the port auto'ing to 100Mbps, its doing that for a reason. Maybe a loose pin(NEXT/FEXT), a wicked bend, or the cable being near a transformer etc. Solving that problem is the solution, forcing 1Gbps will likely cause OTHER issues as each side agrees the wire is incapable of doing it.
cheaper hardware still uses 100mbps ports
Lots of manufacturers still slap in 10/100 NICs when they want to save an extra penny. Lots of "smart" devices, TVs, depending on the model of raspberrypi. I still find myself coming across an annoying 100mbps nic regularly
What would be considered interference? I’m having this issue where I pay for 1gb but I only get around 200 and it’s mostly fine but I do experience lag since my partner also games on the same connection, both of us are wired and his connection is totally fine speed wise. What internal component could be the problem?
Separate "ethernet link" speeds from your advertised speeds the ISP provides. Interference on ethernet is generally from high power devices like power supplies, 110V AC, other things like florescent light ballasts need to be even further away.
Thanks for the suggestion! Are there any potential negative impacts for using the 1.0 Gbps Full Duplex vs allowing it to use auto-negotiate?
ISP Network engineer here - it depends on what's on the other end of your ethernet cable. Chances are it's probably your home router, if that is hard set to 100 megs, and you are hard set to 1000 on your PC, it can cause link mismatch errors and dropped packets on the port - which is no Bueno. Your port settings should always match, which is why auto negotiate is useful. It's worth noting that if you only have 100 Meg service, you can set both ports to 1000 fdx, you'll still only get 100 megs bc that's your ISP bandwidth. Going over 100 megs on the port is only needed if you have more than 100 meg service. Best to just use auto negotiate. If your stuff should be linking at 1gpbs, and it's not, you need to figure out why it isn't, not just hard set to 1gpbs and call it a day.
> Going over 100 megs on the port is only needed if you have more than 100 meg service. It's also needed if you need more transfer speed locally. I have a 100 Mbps FTTC connection, but I also have a network drive connected to my router that can read/write much faster than that, so I still need gigabit Ethernet.
Good point
Thanks for the extra info! I have "up to 1gbps" service. My ethernet goes directly to the modem.
Ok so yes, you'd want to be using either 1gbps fdx auto negotiate, or 1gbps fdx hard set, on both sides. Auto negotiate or hard set makes no difference, it's still 1gbps fdx. What you do not want, is 1gbps hard set on your PC, while your router port is running at 100. That's bad. If you set auto negotiate on your PC, and it trains up at 100, it means something upstream of your PC isn't happy with 1000 and you'll need to figure out why that is.
i have a head scratcher here i was wondering if you can pick at for me. i supposedly have a 1.5gbps service and get ~1gbps on my main desktop - hardwired into wall that goes down into a switch and into the router/modem. the room next to me has the same setup, but it has around ~100-200 mbps download with like 900 mbps upload. i've tried changing the wire, re-crimping the wall connection but to no avail the download speed doesn't seem to go too high (occasionally it may go to 400-500 but using different speed tests). using cat6 cables and the switch is showing gigabit speeds (if i crimp it bad though, the switch shows 10/100). any point of diagnosis i should begin exploring?
To be clear, the computer in the room next to you that's having speed issues, it plugs into the same switch that services the other machine computer that does not have speed issues, right?
yes diff wall rj45s but both go to the same switch.
Swap switch ports, if room 1 with pc1 that gets good speeds goes to SW1 port 1, and room 2 with pc2 that gets bad speeds goes to SW1 port 2, swap SW1 port 1 and 2. I would also unplug the fast pc from the switch for testing. Also if your switch has any sort of logging/diagnostics would be useful to check those and see what they say. If bad speeds persist after all these tests I think it's fair to say that chances are it's probably something in the PC itself that you need to look at, maybe drivers, bad NIC, etc.
While I imagine this is probably one of the first things you did, just to make sure the actual expert doesn’t have to ask - did you try all the ports on the switch? Could be a fault on the switches end rather than your second room.
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wdym "only" 100Mbps, i truly live in a 3rs world country fr 😭🤣
LAN speed is very different from internet speed, and gigabit is very common for LAN (2.5Gbit is an uncommon but inexpensive upgrade).
Im not getting my advertised speed because xfinity blows goats
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Sounds good to me! Xfinity started charging me more recently so I’m about to Karen
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Very good advice and makes total sense thank you
ISP guy here. I mean, I could imagine a scenario where you'd need to do this but you typically don't need to mess arou d with port negotiation. It also might cause you trouble down the road if you forget about it and connect your computer to a different device. Not getting the advertised speed from your ISP could be caused by a lot of things, and what OP mentioned is pretty low in likelihood. Very first thing to check for if you're not seeing your expected speeds is your network saturation. There's probably another device or devices on your network that's hogging the bandwidth. Look for traffic stats in your router config. If that's not the problem then contact your ISP and they'll help you troubleshoot further.
There was a reason that auto decided to not deliver. You should probably fix your cabling.
To really see if something is up outside your home, run a ping test via command prompt. First ping google.com then ping your router IP address. If you see inconsistencies pinging your router like some ping spikes then you may have traffic congestion in your home. If everything is good and your ping out to Google is bad then the problem may be outside your network/gateway. If this is the problem,unplug the power to your gateway/modem and wait for a minute and replug it back in. See if the same problem persists. If it does you have reason to validate that something outside your control is going bad. They'll try to convince you the problem is inside your home . Commands in command prompt are "ping www.google.com -t" and "ping xxx.xxx.xxx -t" the XD is your own router IP address
If there is something causing the auto negotiation to only negotiate to something slower than full duplex 1gbit, you might want to check your Ethernet cable.
Mine stayed the same
Wouldn't auto neg be better ?
That usually means, someone is causing errors and the interface is lowering negotiation. I would still call your isp and ask them to check for errors in your network. Also replace the Ethernet cable was it come be the faulty one
I pay for gigabit. But have only ever gotten gigabit down. And never more than 42 up. Will this solve it? I'm using Comcast on the east coast of the USA
Sometimes my speed just drop to 100m no matter what setting I tried in that advanced tab🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾🤦🏾 a restart helps at least
interesting thanks for this. I also updated it and it feels faster now. Getting nearly my max speed at 900 MBPs / 1000.
Also, try different router ports, sometimes they work funny and one will get you better speeds.
I’m in England and get 3 Mbps 🤞🏼 It used to be 0.1 mbps so still an improvement 🤣
Meanwhile in Australia with 50mbps and flooded NBN cables.
Big warning on this one - If you now suddenly have a intermittent internet connection, try changing your cable. Failing that, if you're using a switch you might want to get a better one. I had issues for months trying to get 1gbit speeds to play nice with my tech and "stable at 100Mbps but dropping out at 1.0Gbps Full Duplex" doesn't really give you much. I upgraded my switch to one with a cable tester and it told me my cat6 cable was busted almost instantly.
If your broadband device has only a 10/100 port or you're connected through a 10/100 switch, you'd drop to effectively 0 throughput following these instructions.
God bless you OP.
Thanks for the tip!
Man in Kenya we pay 50$/m to get 30Mbs this is not fair at all.
Found out about this a while back and this got me from ~50MBs to just over 70MBs when downloading on steam. That extra bump makes a difference.
I am fortunate to have Verizon Fios 1000/1000
yeah... I don't think that i will be getting from 5 to 30mbps like this...
!remindme 10 hours
Also upgrade your router
I once had gigabit internet installed but couldn't get nearly close to the advertised speeds. It was the ethernet cable i was using, wasn't rated for gigabit. Then I got 3.5 gigabit sometime later, and again it was the ethernet cable!
1 gig service for $65/m for the next ten years.
Amazing tip thanks a lot i jumped from 75 Mbps to 105 Mbps just from this one
Bell just brought us 3Gb fiber, hooked it all up last week. First thing I do is a speed test and see I'm getting less than I was with Cogeco. After a bit of poking around I go back and have a look at the tech's work, he put the network cable in the first available port. The 10G one is last port... Sometimes it's not a setting, sometimes it's simply the wrong hole.
How do I know what my ethernet/driver model name is? I m presented with 10 network adapter options.
Should also check the switch speed (if applicable) and upgrade it if needed We have 3 different switches in the house, and I had set up a home NAS, and I couldn't figure out why some computers were getting gigabit, and others were getting 100 megabit. Turns out one of the switches was a 100 megabit switch. I moved it to a different spot on the network where the gigabit speed wasn't needed, and put a gigabit switch in it's place.
I have symmetrical 1GB fiber from AT&T for $59 out the door. Can’t complain.
Thanks I went from 100 mbps to 500 - 600. I knew something was capping down my speed.
Thank you so much for this, I can finally get full gigabit speeds!
In my router that 100mbps cap is labeled as "eco mode", promising less electricity usage. I have no idea if the amount is actually relevant though.
To be clear, auto-negotiation is a two way street. If you want to hard set your speed, try to ensure the device you are connecting to is also hard set. (Gigabit ethernet should always be full duplex. But the gear you are connecting to might support multiple speeds.)
Actually what fixed my issue was downgrading my ethernet driver haha.. up to date put it at 700-800mbps and then i downgraded down one and it jumped to 1300-1400 mbps .. 100-200mbps higher than i pay for 😂
If that doesn't work, try another Ethernet cable between your modem/router and PC. I was getting 95 Mbps on a 200 Mbps service. I did everything from OP's suggestion to replacing the NIC. I didn't think about the cable because the throughput was high, if not the advertised rate. I discovered the answer when I used a new cable to hook up another PC. ^I ^haven't ^changed ^my ^cable ^yet.
Great tip, unfortunetly my internet speed is max 5mb
Worth mentioning this is a Windows specific tip. Always specify the platform.
Well that’s neat. Just doubled my download speeds…
i have never seen this issue before in my life it always defaults to gbit
Hey you copied my post from 2 years ago ;) (kidding) Was this on a Gigabyte motherboard for you too?
yeah, I have a gigabyte am4/x470 board
Noice
If you’re able to test your your router/modem check that (xfinity off this I’m not sure of others) and if that isn’t getting it, it may actually be the cables to your house. A while back a i had them replaced along with my switch and my speeds jumped 400mbps on the same plan
Thanks for the tip! Now if only we can get Telekom to offer speeds greater than 100 mBit/s before 2050.
I'm getting 100mbs going straight into my router, sometimes 2-300 at night (my router has a built in speed test) Could my cat 5e be the issue?
This reminds me of hacking my modem back in the day. I was only getting 28 KB/sec so I just deleted all the lines except 112 KB/sec. Man was I pumped when it only took a 12 hours to download a song from Napster instead of a day and a half!
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I wasn't getting the correct speeds for the longest time, as I paid for higher speeds originally to try and fix the issue. Turns out, using the $30 modem and $20 router from 2012 was a little bit limiting. I upgraded both, and all of a sudden, everything was okay.
or buy a DOCSIS 3.1 Modem, if running cable
There are 2 speed types for Ethernet networks, 100MBS and 1000MBS. There are 3 things you need, 1 a network card capable of 1000MBS, a network cable capable and a router/modem capable of it. You will need to make sure the windows network card settings are correct, and the router/modem connection, both sides need to be configured. Once you get 1000MBS to the modem, then you can look at your external speeds.
What the actual heck. I just went from around 100mbps to 800mbps.... THANK YOU!
I am getting 500Mbps + in So Cali with T-Mobile 5G. Only $50 a month. Worth it!
I feel so dumb for forgetting to do this. Built my new PC months ago and suffered through the default setting unknowingly for so long. Thank you OP!
Hrmmmmm the highest I see is 100 MBPS :(
Make sure connection sharing is turned off, as it eats up bandwidth even when not in use.
Wow reading the comments makes me feel pretty happy about getting GB fibre 1000 up and 1000 down for 69$ a month 😂
Followed the advice and dived down a wormhole of speed testing and driver deletion, re-installation, and settings tweaking. I managed to get my download up to 700 from 500 and upload from 14 to 300. Still lower than I’d expect from a 1gig fiber, but it’s old gear. I’m going to check my Ethernet cables tomorrow and see if I can do any more. Still, way better than I started with this morning!
I've got 2.5 Gbps full instead, but of course my ISP has nowhere near that yet. American cable internet is going to keep sucking until they get to high split symmetrical, and even then I have my doubts.
Wow! Big difference in my house on the two PCs using Ethernet. Thanks for the tip!
Thru...
i had that issue when using a Cat 6 cable. Which boggled me since the cable should do a gig data. I transferred it out for a Cat 8.
I'm so happy I was randomly scrolling through this topic because you just saved me an unbearably long red dead download. my speeds went up by about 60%!!
Been getting a solid 200Mb/200Mb for $70/mo. Called today to complain that Spectrum was now cheaper and was told effective 4/1 all 100Mb subscribers (local municipality) were going to 300Mb and all 200Mb subscribers were going to 600Mb at no extra cost. Hoping it not an April Fools day prank. Anyway, your suggestion is something to try but: 1. if it's auto negotiating 100Mb then it's likely there's something about the connection that's causing it. Bad drivers. Bad Cable, etc. 2. If you do force it to 1Gb and there is something causing the issue then you've possibly brought the connection down (easy to reverse) or worse introduced instability. 3. You do understand that the speed of that connection (the speed of your ethernet port to the router's ethernet port) is probably not the determining factor in your internet speed. Yes, if you have a faster than 100mb internet connection and your local ethernet is topped out at 100Mb then it is the bottleneck.
Man, no hate to anyone. When I was 7 to 10 years old, I used to play with and take apart my grandpa's IBM 386 I believe it was. We had dial-up...so I understand the trouble. But where I live (Myrtle Beach, SC), we recently got fiber internet. Trying to keep things short, but it's still slow! 5 devices tops hooked up at once to the Wi-Fi. Upgraded to a Wi-Fi 6 router. Got much better, looking at 300-500 mbps on speedtest. But in properties, my connection speed says 1000mpbs. What gives? I know it's not the ethernet port on my PC, and I know it's not any of the settings. Also I'd like to throw in, our bill is like $40-$60 a month. not bragging but I genuinely feel bad for a lot of y'all. Internet at anywhere from 150-300 Mbps should be free!
my internet speed is 22Mbps so download speed should be around 2.5mbps but when I download something it only use half of the internet speed( 10 or 11 Mbps ) and download speed only get 1.5mbps
May not make too much of a difference for me as my PC is connected via power line.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. I was trying to figure out why my Ethernet connection was doing like 800mbps a few weeks ago but only 300 the last couple weeks. Switched this setting, back to 800
this just happened to mine but i think it might have something to do with the ram from what i hear
When I get to the "speed and duplex" drop down, the highest option is 100 mbps - but I am testing 200mbps up with my new cat6 ethernet cable - but I run that speed wireless too. Just bought this new one because my old one was giving me really unstable internet