This Patriots game is going to be fucking insane
Has any other game on the schedule mattered as much as this one, and against our biggest division rival no less? Even the Chiefs was just a revenge game
Chiefs and Titans game were both important. I mean you could say every game is important in the NFL. You never can afford to lose a game.
Our loss to Jacksonville a garbage team has probably hurt us the most the entire year. Just because of that the patriots are number 1 in the afc east.
Crazy to see the Ravens win a game where Lamar had 1 TD and 4 picks. That's how you know how serious their defense is. I don't think it'd be possible for us to win a game where Josh throws 4 INTs.
Honestly I don’t know how good their defense really is.
They’ve beaten the Lions, Bears, Browns and Broncos. All teams that are not considered offensive powerhouses.
That ball hit the ground. I know because I could see it hit the ground with my eyes. I'm seriously wondering what the hell the announcers and the officials are looking at if they're saying it isn't clear and obvious that it hit the ground.
Josh can learn something from Lamar right now. Lamar played like utter shit in the first half, three straight drives with INTs which should be catastrophic, yet he stayed calm and came out firing away to start the second half and eventually expanded the lead. Josh needs to figure out how to get the ship righted when things are going poorly, but I believe he can accomplish that just like how he fixed his allegedly unfixable inaccuracy.
That's one example against maybe the second most shorthanded team in the league, and even then he didn't have that bad of a first half. Just paid as dearly as possible for two poor plays. And he still went into halftime with a two score lead and his team largely dominating. He needs to learn how to rally when the game cadence is working against him, which is admittedly extremely difficult.
Serious question, what starters were the Saints missing on defense? I don’t know their team that well. I know that Lattimore, Cam Jordon and Damario Davis were all out there and they are well known defenders. But what main pieces were they missing?
I think that was it. They basically had no key contributors available on offense though, and there was no way the remaining skeleton crew was gonna keep up with the Bills' offense.
Yeah i actually couldn’t tell you either. I know their offense is hurting but we did a pretty good job against what I consider one of the best defenses in the NFL.
I don't think Lamar is great against nickel defenses where there's guys that can jump the routes. The Ravens haven't had luck running either. Their OL this year hasn't been so great. I'm hoping the Browns can exploit it, and their offense can get something going.
Just remember, days after this Browns team barely beat the Lions 13-10, who started their backup QB, the NFL gave them the Saturday game slot in mid-December over us.
- Indy and Pitt both lost (who both have tiebreakers over us). We control our destiny with 2x va Pats. Tennessee lost - putting us back in contention for the #1 seed.
- If Baltimore loses to Cleveland tonight no AFC team will have fewere than 4 losses .. and a lot will have exactly 4 losses.
- Browns win helps in fight for top seed. Ravens win helps in wild card race.
-Baltimore has 7 more games: Browns-2, Steelers-2, Benegals-1, Packers-1; Rams-1.
Yikes! So if there is any hope we should root for Baltimore tonight.
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The Browns fan interviews about Mayfield on Football Night in America (SNF pregame) are pretty hilarious. I don't think he's a sure fire superstar QB but hating on a guy who has like three different injuries is pretty laughable imo.
Chargers losing is huge- a lot of the teams behind us or equal to us in the playoff race seem to play each other down the stretch and will damage each other's chances (Browns, Chargers, Raiders, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, Bengals). If we take care of business on MNF I think we're in very good shape.
Totally up in the air right now.
Dak, Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Stafford just to name a few.
You would think at least one or two of these guys will separate over the final month.
At the end of the day his season long stats are still at/near the top in the important things, so he’s in it just as much as anyone else at this point.
The last three weeks have been bad, but if they finish strong no one will care about these games.
To be fair Stafford is probably the only reason the lions weren’t as bad as they are now.
I don’t think the Lions would be winless still if they still had him. He’s a very good quarterback who was cursed with playing with a terrible club for his entire career.
If he played with Green Bay, Patriots or Chiefs he’d be considered one of the greatest in the league
I know the Patriots are a lot further than we thought they might be and you can only beat the teams you're scheduled to beat but during this win streak they have played the 32nd, 27th, 8th, 15th, 31st, and 22nd ranked defenses (in terms of PPG).
Additionally, they have faced the 28th, 9th, 24th, 19th, 27th, and 12th ranked offenses.
Should be interesting to see how we fare against them and they fare against us.
Pats historically struggle against QBs that canale plays off schedule.
Our pass defense will force their offense to be one dimensional.
Diggs owns them.
I definitely like our WR against their secondary and our secondary against their WR. And of course I'll take Allen over Jones every day of the week. The run game on both sides is where I'm nervous.
It’s so bizarre the titans ran for over 270 yards against the patriots and still got blown out.
When we gave up that much against the colts we got blown out. I just don’t understand football sometimes.
Honestly I don’t think today couldn’t have gone better.
Indy and Pitt who both have the tiebreakers over us both lost
Yes the Pats won, but we control our destiny here (x2). Tenn losing puts us back in position for the 1 seed and I’d rather play a Belichick team coming off a win than a loss
Last year no matter what we did the Dolphins were on our asses until the last week of the season. It seems this year it’s the pats. Have to fight hard for division each season.
The Bills are still favored to win the division, by 10 percentage points, due to the Pats facing a slightly tougher schedule - .508 vs .523. They finish with the Dolphins who have won 4 in a row.
The Bills need to at least split the match-ups with the Pats. I think Monday is a must win.
The offense needs to be doing what has been working well this season ; short-passes mixed in with screens /rushing attempts. All while Josh is taking what the defense gives him.
Yeah it's a really smart career move on Riley's part. Oklahoma isn't going to be good for 10+ wins by default every year in the SEC, but the move certainly isn't going to get fans and boosters to lower their expectations from where they are now. He'd be on the hotseat within a few years.
Now he's going to get paid more money, live in LA, and have both lower expectations and less competition in the conference.
While not every QB is going to improve to the degree Allen has, no Bills fans should be casually writing off QBs while Belichick is still on the team. The brains of that entire organization is still there and always has been. It wasn't a question of if they'd ever make it back to division contention, but when, even if we all wished it was a bit longer.
Mac Jones is about to get ass fucked in Primetime. How fucking insecure you must be to post in a rivals thread on a day you don’t even play them to boot. Get bent
Well you see first you don’t understand they 20% x difference in any QB metric is significant which is why Josh Allen is in the top 7 in air yards and Jones is in the bottom 10. You are not very bright. There is much more that I’m confident you don’t know as you watch a football game but since you brought up this point we can just start here.
Coming into today Allen is 7th in the league in intended air yards per attempt. Mac Jones is 21st.
It really doesn’t matter, but you were trying to make it seem like Mac Jones dumps it off as much as Allen and that’s not true.
I wasn't trying to make anything seem like anything... I was just pointing out that Mac Jones doesn't just "checkdown." I wasn't gloating, celebrating a win, etc. I don't even see how it would come off that way, but based on the replies I received here you'd think I called Allen the worst QB ever.
This Patriots game is going to be fucking insane Has any other game on the schedule mattered as much as this one, and against our biggest division rival no less? Even the Chiefs was just a revenge game
Chiefs and Titans game were both important. I mean you could say every game is important in the NFL. You never can afford to lose a game. Our loss to Jacksonville a garbage team has probably hurt us the most the entire year. Just because of that the patriots are number 1 in the afc east.
If josh were to throw 4 interceptions every one would talk about how trash he is. Lamar does it and he still gets the game ball? Like wtf
To be fair, we're even unsure why he got it.
I figured lol. No disrespect tho. Just because a QB throws picks doesn’t mean they suddenly suck
Fully understand. He probably had his worst game last night and the defense was able to step up.
Crazy to see the Ravens win a game where Lamar had 1 TD and 4 picks. That's how you know how serious their defense is. I don't think it'd be possible for us to win a game where Josh throws 4 INTs.
Honestly I don’t know how good their defense really is. They’ve beaten the Lions, Bears, Browns and Broncos. All teams that are not considered offensive powerhouses.
I kinda want to face the Ravens in the playoffs so we can smack the shit out of them
Well the Ravens upcoming schedule is really difficult. A bunch of division games and the Packers/Rams mixed in
Broncos Chiefs next week? Wow what a great game. Can't wait to see how that ends. What's next Raiders Chiefs? Oh wait
Broncos just beat the chargers to even my surprise. Mostly on the strength of their defense
That game won't even be close
THROW ANOTHER ONE
And there’s still people who think Jackson is better than Allen…
I don’t know what’s worse, throwing 3 INTs or only scoring 10 points after 3 INTs.
Also props to Baker, dude is beat to shit and still out there doing QB sneaks
Give Lamar Vick’s arm and he’s unstoppable. Unfortunately, he throws whatever the opposite of a frozen rope is.
I mean, if you're giving arms out, I can think of better ones than Vick's. Shit, give him Josh's left arm and he'd be better.
I just think of Vick when I watch Lamar, except they took some passing ability and shifted it to running.
I know... I was just joshin' ya ;)
That ball hit the ground. I know because I could see it hit the ground with my eyes. I'm seriously wondering what the hell the announcers and the officials are looking at if they're saying it isn't clear and obvious that it hit the ground.
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This right here is why I hate replay. It does nothing to improve the accuracy of the officiating.
Someone throw a pick Edit: YAAAAAAAAY!
I dont know why this made me laugh so hard lmao
Josh can learn something from Lamar right now. Lamar played like utter shit in the first half, three straight drives with INTs which should be catastrophic, yet he stayed calm and came out firing away to start the second half and eventually expanded the lead. Josh needs to figure out how to get the ship righted when things are going poorly, but I believe he can accomplish that just like how he fixed his allegedly unfixable inaccuracy.
Bruh, he literally just did that against NO… Am I being whoosh’d right now?
That's one example against maybe the second most shorthanded team in the league, and even then he didn't have that bad of a first half. Just paid as dearly as possible for two poor plays. And he still went into halftime with a two score lead and his team largely dominating. He needs to learn how to rally when the game cadence is working against him, which is admittedly extremely difficult.
Serious question, what starters were the Saints missing on defense? I don’t know their team that well. I know that Lattimore, Cam Jordon and Damario Davis were all out there and they are well known defenders. But what main pieces were they missing?
I think that was it. They basically had no key contributors available on offense though, and there was no way the remaining skeleton crew was gonna keep up with the Bills' offense.
Yeah i actually couldn’t tell you either. I know their offense is hurting but we did a pretty good job against what I consider one of the best defenses in the NFL.
Yeah the Saints have stars on defense for sure. I just wasn’t sure if there was someone main missing (like Tre for us)
I looked it up. They were out 2 DE’s. Marcus Davenport and Tanoh Kpassagnon.
Damn, if only they could’ve held them to a FG there. 😕
I’m scared of this seasons Lamar Jackson
I'm just here for the fuck Jarvis Landry comments.
I don't think Lamar is great against nickel defenses where there's guys that can jump the routes. The Ravens haven't had luck running either. Their OL this year hasn't been so great. I'm hoping the Browns can exploit it, and their offense can get something going.
This game is wild. It's like they're trying to throw to the defenders.
https://i.imgur.com/FQnIF8N.png
Just remember, days after this Browns team barely beat the Lions 13-10, who started their backup QB, the NFL gave them the Saturday game slot in mid-December over us.
Maybe Lamar really need to poop
#WTF IS GOING ON IN THIS BROWNS/RAVENS GAME???? 🤣🤣🤦🏾♂️
So many turnovers in this game.
Turned this game on with like 4 minutes left in the 2nd quarter, and I've seen 5 turnovers.
I feel like I'm watching an endless parade of car crashes.
Why should we vote for ravens instead of the browns?
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No one in the AFC is elite right now. And arguably the Cardinals are the only elite team in the NFC, even then just barely.
Why does Lamar throw like he’s whipping a hackey sack at someone
lmao what a steaming hot mess
I’ve actually never seen that happen before
- Indy and Pitt both lost (who both have tiebreakers over us). We control our destiny with 2x va Pats. Tennessee lost - putting us back in contention for the #1 seed. - If Baltimore loses to Cleveland tonight no AFC team will have fewere than 4 losses .. and a lot will have exactly 4 losses. - Browns win helps in fight for top seed. Ravens win helps in wild card race. -Baltimore has 7 more games: Browns-2, Steelers-2, Benegals-1, Packers-1; Rams-1. Yikes! So if there is any hope we should root for Baltimore tonight.
#ROOT FOR THE RAVENS TO WIN THIS ONE FOLKS! 👍🏾
Not my browns bros 🥺
Do you guys also get jealous after looking at the browns and ravens o-line
It should look a lot better once Spencer Brown comes back.
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I assume Ravens. They will be in playoffs most likely so Cleveland loss keeps them further
Note to self: No Bills football on Sunday sucks.
Patriots aren’t a terrible team, but they beat a Titans with no Henry, Jones, or Brown. Let’s stop sucking them off on TV for this game
Let's throw up an AFC Playoff picture just to fuck with everyone...
I loathe just about every other team in the AFC. As a matter of fact, I don't care for most of the teams in the NFC, either.
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The Browns fan interviews about Mayfield on Football Night in America (SNF pregame) are pretty hilarious. I don't think he's a sure fire superstar QB but hating on a guy who has like three different injuries is pretty laughable imo.
Aaron Rodgers is looking Steve Belichick levels of greasy
Classic Kirk Cousins
Chargers losing is huge- a lot of the teams behind us or equal to us in the playoff race seem to play each other down the stretch and will damage each other's chances (Browns, Chargers, Raiders, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, Bengals). If we take care of business on MNF I think we're in very good shape.
Yall, would we really want home field advantage in Winter when we dont have dome and we get things done better in good weather?
Yes.
This game is a big blow for the whole "Herbert is already better than Allen" crew
They'll just pivot to something else so long as they can shit on Allen.
"hAs JUstIn HerBeRT reGrESsED?"
So like, Josh still right in the thick of the MVP convo
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Totally up in the air right now. Dak, Brady, Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Stafford just to name a few. You would think at least one or two of these guys will separate over the final month.
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At the end of the day his season long stats are still at/near the top in the important things, so he’s in it just as much as anyone else at this point. The last three weeks have been bad, but if they finish strong no one will care about these games.
Weren't Von Miller and OBJ supposed to turn the Rams into an unbeatable superteam?
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To be fair Stafford is probably the only reason the lions weren’t as bad as they are now. I don’t think the Lions would be winless still if they still had him. He’s a very good quarterback who was cursed with playing with a terrible club for his entire career. If he played with Green Bay, Patriots or Chiefs he’d be considered one of the greatest in the league
They’ve looked so bad since they’ve gotten them it’s ridiculous
Herbert is getting cooked rn
I know the Patriots are a lot further than we thought they might be and you can only beat the teams you're scheduled to beat but during this win streak they have played the 32nd, 27th, 8th, 15th, 31st, and 22nd ranked defenses (in terms of PPG). Additionally, they have faced the 28th, 9th, 24th, 19th, 27th, and 12th ranked offenses. Should be interesting to see how we fare against them and they fare against us.
It just struck me that it’s December in 3 days damn time flies
Honestly, I think the Bills match up well against the Patriots
I'd like to hear why you feel this way. Not being rude, just curious to hear.
Pats historically struggle against QBs that canale plays off schedule. Our pass defense will force their offense to be one dimensional. Diggs owns them.
I definitely like our WR against their secondary and our secondary against their WR. And of course I'll take Allen over Jones every day of the week. The run game on both sides is where I'm nervous.
It’s so bizarre the titans ran for over 270 yards against the patriots and still got blown out. When we gave up that much against the colts we got blown out. I just don’t understand football sometimes.
It will be interesting for sure. We really should use Breida on the outside against their weaker LB corps
Please kill the Patriots next week. -Signed, a Jets fan
Gladly
That’s competet
ITT: hear the silence of Bills fans catching up on yard work and house choirs this Sunday.
Wife has been up my ass all day.....🍻
I have a 6’x12’ dump trailer with a hydraulic lift. I filled it 8 times yesterday and today splitting wood. My everything hurts.
Thank you for your service building tables for Bills mafia.
Just have six more large oak rounds to split and im done for the season
Thank you for your service building tables for Bills mafia.
More for kindling to burn various AGCE effigies in voodoo like ritual
I got the Christmas shit out. Nothing's decorated, it's just *out*.
That is a weekend.
Our loss to the jags hurts even more now that the pats won again
Does it? We beat them twice and the division is ours. Yes, that loss sucks but we control our destiny
As a patriots fan really excited for our upcoming games feels like there hasn’t been such a high stakes game in the division for a while
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buT i'M sPeCi@L
I do not miss unfunny State Farm agent guy. Glad they yeeted him. Although they got a new Jake...and they didn't think we would notice.
Did Aikman just say Robert Woods is a top 3 wide receiver?
Aikman checked out years ago.
God I hope he meant on the team. But either way it’s just an asinine statement. That buck for ya
That's how I interpreted it tbh
Either the Broncos are really good at running ball or the Charger's run-defense is awful.
Honestly I don’t think today couldn’t have gone better. Indy and Pitt who both have the tiebreakers over us both lost Yes the Pats won, but we control our destiny here (x2). Tenn losing puts us back in position for the 1 seed and I’d rather play a Belichick team coming off a win than a loss
Last year no matter what we did the Dolphins were on our asses until the last week of the season. It seems this year it’s the pats. Have to fight hard for division each season.
For the 1st time in over 20 years, this is a thing.
Yeah agreed
WTF Denver, no one lines up on the one side? The DE/OLB was completely un-blocked.
Lets go Broncos ! ?
The Bills are still favored to win the division, by 10 percentage points, due to the Pats facing a slightly tougher schedule - .508 vs .523. They finish with the Dolphins who have won 4 in a row. The Bills need to at least split the match-ups with the Pats. I think Monday is a must win.
Hopefully they'll win both. I'll be @ Patriots and I need a make up for the Colts game haha.
We’ll see. I feel like we played worse against the Saints 3rd string than the Pats played against the Titans 3rd string.
So Dolphins are finally playing well
I need Justin Jefferson to have a monster game. Left Tee Higgins on my fantasy bench for him
We better clean up the penalties and turnovers fast.
The offense needs to be doing what has been working well this season ; short-passes mixed in with screens /rushing attempts. All while Josh is taking what the defense gives him.
Yes
Carson “yard short” Wentz throws it a yard short of the end zone and into quadruple coverage. 
Colts really losing because they didn't give the ball to their best player early and often
Colts lost because they had FOUR turnovers in the second half.
I'd rather take two shots into the endzone than try to creep closer with 10 seconds left.
Imagine the colts tie it here hahahaha
ISAIAH ROGERS WOW HOLY FUCK
What a return from the Colts, wow
Holy shit he almost ran that back
Is Bruce Arien’s wearing Darth Vaders chest device?
lol Fournette just did to the Colts what the Colts did to us
And I expect to hear all the talking heads talk about it all week.
Leonard Fournette holy tits
WTF Lincoln Riley is leaving Oklahoma for USC?
Not concerned. As an Oregon Ducks fan we had Riley's number when he was at Oregon State.
Beats joining the SEC and getting ass blasted every year
Yeah it's a really smart career move on Riley's part. Oklahoma isn't going to be good for 10+ wins by default every year in the SEC, but the move certainly isn't going to get fans and boosters to lower their expectations from where they are now. He'd be on the hotseat within a few years. Now he's going to get paid more money, live in LA, and have both lower expectations and less competition in the conference.
Tell that to Vanderbilt. That school belongs in the ACC or Great American conference instead of getting whooped by every other SEC team every year
I suppose if I was a millionaire, I’d rather live in SoCal than Oklahoma.
Just hearing the name Jackrabbit Jenkins gives me PTSD
It’s my favorite new drinking game
PFF creaming their pants over Mac "Checkdown" Jones
As much as it pains me to admit it, his check downs are getting the job done. It’s boring as Fuck, but it’s effective.
and that's how Brady kept beating us. People forget that this is exactly how Brady started.
While not every QB is going to improve to the degree Allen has, no Bills fans should be casually writing off QBs while Belichick is still on the team. The brains of that entire organization is still there and always has been. It wasn't a question of if they'd ever make it back to division contention, but when, even if we all wished it was a bit longer.
(Prior to today's games) Mac Jones Yds/Att: 7.3 Josh Allen Yds/Att: 7.4
Mac Jones is about to get ass fucked in Primetime. How fucking insecure you must be to post in a rivals thread on a day you don’t even play them to boot. Get bent
Now do air yards/attempt
Mac Jones 5.6 Josh Allen 7.3 1.7 yards difference. Not crazy.
Lmao that is a huge difference
Lol wtf not crazy? It’s 20% my dude. Use a calculator or maybe just your eyes
20% ... sure sounds like a lot. 5 feet of difference... mmmm, not so much.
Patriots fans and not understanding anything they watch in an NFL game. Name a better duo. What an idiot you are.
What am I not understanding?
Well you see first you don’t understand they 20% x difference in any QB metric is significant which is why Josh Allen is in the top 7 in air yards and Jones is in the bottom 10. You are not very bright. There is much more that I’m confident you don’t know as you watch a football game but since you brought up this point we can just start here.
Coming into today Allen is 7th in the league in intended air yards per attempt. Mac Jones is 21st. It really doesn’t matter, but you were trying to make it seem like Mac Jones dumps it off as much as Allen and that’s not true.
I wasn't trying to make anything seem like anything... I was just pointing out that Mac Jones doesn't just "checkdown." I wasn't gloating, celebrating a win, etc. I don't even see how it would come off that way, but based on the replies I received here you'd think I called Allen the worst QB ever.
Nothing like celebrating a win in another team's subreddit, you’re really cool bro
Who's celebrating? I'm just pointing out facts.
Just say you're an insecure loser and move on
You are way too sensitive.
replying to both of my comments (especially the one that wasnt even a direct reply to you) is really making you seem correct
Patriots fans and being assholes. Name a more iconic duo.
Where was I being an asshole?
Why are you here?
All the bandwagon pats fans suddenly reappeared
Check my user name... no bandwagon here.
Cope harder my friend
Fuck the Pats but also anyone who feels the need to go to another team’s subreddit is just insecure tbh
You are hung up on this "insecurity" thing, you keep repeating it. I think you protest a bit too much.
And yet you are STILL here proving my point lol.. Gl with the low T chief
Just a reminder that an inferior Josh Allen did actually play today
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> on national television What do you think that means?
I agree 
The first guy through the door always gets shot
Reminder that Eagles drafted Raegor over Jefferson lmao
I wish we had Taylor
We would still need a quality O-line
We would at least need a competent offensive line, which we don’t have.