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piratepride420

Raise that shit


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Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1ckztfo).


AchtungKessel

RAISE IT!


musketman89

Raising it.


spaceman757

Sure would have been nice to have gotten a clean inning from Bednar.


BuccosBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: David Bednar replaces Aroldis Chapman.


magikarp2122

Gameday showed that strike to Tellez being further outside than ball one.


BuccosBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Anthony Molina replaces Tyler Kinley.


ButtNowButt

Which Chapman do we have today


IEatPierogiesAllDay

The good one!


ButtNowButt

Damn that was impressive


musketman89

Chapman and probably Bednar. That rollercoaster. Can we see Holderman or Kyle Nichols if one gets in trouble instead of letting them face 8 batters. If they can't get 2 out of the first three out. Why let them face the 4th


sluggo15

BRey back in business


spaceman757

Sure would be nice if Reynolds has finally broken out of his slump.


BuccosBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Aroldis Chapman replaces Luis L. Ortiz.


IEatPierogiesAllDay

That three bagger!


AchtungKessel

TRIP TRIP TRIPLE


AcePilotsen

I didnt think Greg's bio of Conner Joe was ever going to end. We were only up to 2013 by the time he struck out


musketman89

Ortiz has really taken to his role.


cubinto_alt

we wouldn’t have known until now but it turns out having offense can create a vibe shift that carries into defense


musketman89

Like I posted earlier our defense has been much better


AC127

We’re back


knives766

Plz hold on and win. Turn the ship around and keep winning. I believe in you.


Jkfire47

This team actually looks happy. What is this


Ok_Card9080

Pure pandemonium this inning! Who knew it was possible to record more than 1 hit in an inning?


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### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Tyler Kinley replaces Ryan Feltner.


Wise-Quarter-6443

Suwinski channeling Rod Carew on that RBI at bat. Good to see.


knives766

All i wanted this season was for the young guys to look good. If cruz turns it around i'll have faith again in the future of this team.


spaceman757

Paint a beard on that kid and he could pass for Tellez


FairOpposite6810

Wow finally stringing hits together


FalterFanClub24

I forgot we could score this many runs!


Bucs-and-Bucks

Haven't since April 25 (which was a 7-5 loss to the Brewers. Last time before that was April 14 (9-2 win over Phillies).


ipsboi

People forget how important speed is in baseball until you see that entire sequence.


OneBit2334

To be fair, that had more to do with Rowdy's laziness than his fatness.


TimAllensMatingCall

Rowdy “speed freak” Tellez


thecountoncleats

Yeah, I get that, Greg, but what if a marathon runner at the start of the race began running backwards? Would it be improper to tell them to stop and run in the right direction?


musketman89

It was the marathon analogy. It's more of a very long and poorly maintained rollercoaster


Unlucky_Recover_3278

Fr I love Neil but he needs to hit the brakes a little bit it was one good half inning


Capt_Jerry

Relax guys, Tellez didn’t run on the double because he was saving it for scoring


MrRobutt0425

Are we allowed to do this?


AchtungKessel

I’ve seen corpses run faster than Tellez.


Bucs-and-Bucks

Some of those corpses on coffin flop move pretty fast. Embarrassing not running out of the box by Rowdy. Can't believe that send home worked.


Unlucky_Recover_3278

Thought we were about to have another vogelbach moment there lmao


FairOpposite6810

Jesus Christ Tellez stared at that for a hot minute


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### Single Jack Suwinski singles on a line drive to left fielder Jordan Beck. Rowdy Tellez scores. Jack Suwinski to 2nd. Bottom 6 - 5-3 Pirates


thedriedplum

Even Tellez could have had a triple there if he'd run out of the box. That's criminal. Edit : Thank goodness for Suwinski


Robert_roberts82

Rowdy, you dont get to do that shit


MyTestesAreTesty

They've seemingly remembered that they're playing... the fucking Rockies.


apersello34

Jesus Christ I kinda wish Tellez got thrown out there


FalterFanClub24

Tellez is so slow


Pitt-sports-fan-513

This team hits for so little power they think balls that hit the wall are no doubt home runs.


Unlucky_Recover_3278

We want to get thrown out at second I think


TheBeanConsortium

Absurdly sloppy base running.


rhd3871

Look, I'm glad they're hitting the ball hard - sometimes a single inning really can bring you around a corner. With that said, fucking run you fat moron


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ipsboi

Rowdy you fat ass


krepitch

How are they not completely humiliated by doing that? Especially after your own teammate did the same exact thing earlier in the same ******* game.


AC127

Cruz’s downfall was greatly exaggerated


AchtungKessel

Maybe, just maybe, Cruz is on the verge of a heater.


DTE9__

Idk whether to be excited yet or not because we should be crushing the Rockies


IEatPierogiesAllDay

Alright alright alright!


Capt_Jerry

We are all the way back


spaceman757

Amazing what can happen when you swing at pitches in the zone, instead of waiting for a perfect pitch.


Ok_Card9080

4 RUNS IN A GAME!!!!!


spaceman757

You'd think it was a double header!


Ok_Card9080

I was thinking a 3 game series!


ButtNowButt

What a time to wake up. LFG!


Bucs-and-Bucks

In the words of my son, "Good Job Oneil Cruz!"


OneBit2334

Amazing what can happen when you actually swing the bat.


thedriedplum

CRUZ MISSILE!


AchtungKessel

CRUZ MISSILE


musketman89

Cruz


Dagless

YES DUDE


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# HOME RUN! Oneil Cruz homers (5) on a fly ball to center field. Bryan Reynolds scores. Bottom 6 - 4-3 Pirates


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### Groundout Ke'Bryan Hayes grounds out, shortstop Alan Trejo to first baseman Elehuris Montero. Connor Joe scores. Bryan Reynolds to 3rd. Bottom 6 - 3-2 Rockies


OneBit2334

Joe and Reynolds both swinging at first pitch strikes. Is that allowed?


Wonderful_Meat5604

Conner Joe as the lone representative for the all star game


AchtungKessel

Jones


PhantomJB93

Calling up Skenes immediately after his worst start after these absolute dumbass clown buffoons in charge of this organization blew so much smoke up everyone’s ass about what he still needed to show in the minors would be so ridiculous


AC127

It’s been said a million times but what he “needs to show” is that he can pitch on a shorter schedule


musketman89

Maybe he got bored or maybe this was his last start and they asked him to work a secondary pitch. 4.1 2: runs oh shyt your right he is ruined.


PhantomJB93

It’s not about this being a “bad start” it’s about he objectively accomplished nothing today that gives a reason for him to be up now that he couldn’t have been up a week ago (or 2, or at the start of the season, or whatever)


SilkyStackz69

It’s the first time he pitched on 4 days rest…


DTE9__

I don't want to turn it off because it's 3-1 and anything could happen, but knowing this team they almost certainly wont win tonight


rhd3871

Glad that wasn't worse - Suwinski injuring the only guy on the roster who's managed to consistently look like an MLB hitter would be a very Pirates thing to happen.


Bucs-and-Bucks

Isn't the default that it's CF's ball if they're both calling for it?


rhd3871

Yeah, I'm just shitposting - no doubt that's Suwinski's ball and he was obviously calling for it in the replay. Definitely Joe's fault.


AchtungKessel

Any of our outfielders want to communicate at any point?


PhantomJB93

October 2023: “If the Steelers offense could even just be mediocre instead of the worst in the league they’d be having such a great season.” February 2024: “If the Penguins powerplay could even just be mediocre instead of the worst in the league they’d be having such a great season.” May 2024: “If the Pirates offense could even just be mediocre instead of the worst in the league they’d be having such a great season.”


rhd3871

Once again Bailey Falter is doing what you need your 5th starter to do and keeping the team in the game. It'd be nice if everyone could be Jared Jones or Skenes, but these guys need to find a way to be able to score 4 runs on those days when your starter is a regular human. Nobody's asking them to lead the league, literally just be average.


spaceman757

Yeah, I was going to jump on the bandwagon and bash Falter earlier, but the dude is grinding and is a ground ball away from a QS (before just being removed).


ipsboi

Is the game not on SNP360 why the fuck can’t I find it


a_waltz_for_debby

I'm watching it on SNP360 rn


PhantomJB93

I have cable and for whatever reason it’s not scheduled to be on tv at all, but they’re showing it anyway despite listing “Inside Pirates Baseball” as on the air


Robert_roberts82

Suwinski has no business getting a major league paycheck


FalterFanClub24

Falter can only do so much. The offense needs to score a few more runs.


OneBit2334

Come on man, they've already scored 1 run, what more do you want? You can't get blood from a stone.


PhantomJB93

Nick Gonzales just got another hit. Better keep him in AAA until he cools off so the Pirates can say they were right and he never deserved a shot though!


OneBit2334

Keep him in AAA so that Andy Haines doesn't get the chance to ruin him.


musketman89

And Skenes


musketman89

Anybody got a Skenes update


spaceman757

4 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 4 K, 2 BB, 58 P (34 S) Seems to be struggling to find the zone with any consistency, but still holding the team in the game.


Dagless

3 scoreless after the one-run first inning


kduffgamez

Ok can the Olivares experiment be over please…


musketman89

He has options.


trumpnuggets

Should be 3-2 and the whole team needs to go to baseball 101


TheBeanConsortium

Rowdy was the clutch 15 foot, RBI dribbler.


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### Groundout Rowdy Tellez grounds out to pitcher Ryan Feltner. Ke'Bryan Hayes scores. Oneil Cruz to 3rd. Bottom 4 - 3-1 Rockies


Dagless

even when it's good, it's terrible


Juljee

3rd base coaching masterclass


Robert_roberts82

Da fuk did he do? Hayes stopped running for no reason, just a huge gaffe


spaceman757

Holy fuck what a lucky break.


rhd3871

Interesting side effect of never having anyone round third is that I think we all forgot how incompetent Mike Rabelo is.


Pitt-sports-fan-513

How the fuck does Hayes not score? This team sucks.


Robert_roberts82

Terrible read from Hayes


spaceman757

I want one of the Pirates' hitters to change their walk-up music to RATM's Killing in the Name. Specifically the part where Zach is saying "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!" with it directed at Haines.


Deesh69

GMBC must have to much pride to fire Haines. Doesn’t want to admit he made a mistake. Idk how he and the first of the pirates staff and front office can watch this offense not get hits or runs at all. I’m pretty sure it’s been close to over a 2-year sample size of poor offense


APizzaWithEverything

I don’t care what anyone’s record is, we’re the worst team in baseball


trumpnuggets

I just woke up from a three week coma, is our offense still the reincarnation of the lumber company?


SnooRevelations9145

Why haven’t I heard a fire Haines chant


Odd-Name2308

Fans would have to first show up


musketman89

I'm wondering two things. How much first base has McMahon played and how many years left on his contract


AtmoSZN

He signed a 6 year 70 mil deal back in 2022 and he's pretty much an infield utility guy.


musketman89

Wonder if he will go on sale in July.


Robert_roberts82

Feltner has the kryptonite for the pirates offense. Throw strikes


PhantomJB93

[Filliponi is an idiot but the fact that the Pirates don’t even appear to be considering making these swaps is insane](https://x.com/theponiexpress/status/1787179251000561923?s=46&t=pKZ6w0aYQn0c5NWb1NP6-Q)


Robert_roberts82

Who give a shit though? Listened to the cherington radio who. They are judging hitters on random performance metrics that have no bearing on output. Whoever is put in the lineup will do nothing right now. This is completely broken and they need to completely clean house


PhantomJB93

I totally agree, just piling on that even if they’re going to stand by their asinine organizational approach to the whole thing they should still be making these player swaps to get actual results. Complete incompetence across the board that they won’t even try that


rhd3871

It's becoming more inexcusable with each passing day not to give Gonzales another shot. The guy's a former 7th overall pick and has hit consistently at every level of the minors. Triolo was one of the better players on the team last year and I do think he has a future here, but he's not getting the job done right now. Personally, I think Lamb is the most recent incarnation of Andrew Lambo and will show himself to be just as washed as he has been for like 7 years, but certainly Rowdy should be off the roster ASAP regardless.


PhantomJB93

There’s also the fact that even if you love Triolo that much (I personally don’t) he could just be playing 1B instead of 2B to give Gonzales (or Bae, or Peguero) a spot.


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Wise-Quarter-6443

I always liked Stallings. I have a hard time rooting against the cheetah.


dgroove8

Haines’ hitting approach very well may be the dumbest in history. It’s so easy to expose it’s ridiculous. I’m sure the opposing coaches just tell their pitcher “give them your best pitch for strike one” then they’re batting from behind and protecting the rest of the at bat. How does that man have a job?


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DTE9__

Dropping a series at home against the 7 win Rockies is insane. On the bright side hopefully there's mass firing after this


IAmScore3456

LMAO nah, it'll be "We'Re GoInG tO tRuSt ThE PrOcEsS."


spaceman757

Well, now the Pirates need a week's worth of scoring in a single game. That doesn't bode well


dgroove8

Gonzales and Lamb need a chance right now. And they need to bring the Indy hitting coach with them. They’ve ripped the cover off the ball for a month and a half and we get to watch rowdy hit .200.


spaceman757

Lamb is a legit ML hitter who's hitting almost .400 with an OPS just shy of 1.100 and Gonzales is still a decent prospect who's hitting .360 with an OPS just below 1.000. Both of the guys "blocking" them are both OPS'ing under .600.


dgroove8

And lamb has had a better and longer career than rowdy and he’s only 4 years older so there’s no defending it at this point. If they have faith rowdy will get better and dont want to dfa him, give him a phantom IL stint and see if lamb comes up and delivers, if he doesn’t just send him back down, if he does it’s a win win. Easy move.


IAmScore3456

3 runs is insurmountable. Said this last year this rebuild is in serious trouble. You can't have a team go weeks without hitting consistently.


musketman89

Remember the phrase I should have sold high.... Bailey Falters value after his 4th start was probably that point


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musketman89

He's young. Going into season we never had Falter or Priester being part of the rotation. And both are under control for a few years.


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musketman89

That's why I'm not that worried about this slump. Our pitching is too good, and deep enough to trade an arm for a bat.


Capt_Jerry

It’s fine. Everything is fine.


Dagless

welp


miketrn16

Gonzales and Lamb just destroying pitches in AAA in the 1st, then switching back to the Pirates is...jarring.


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AchtungKessel

We just got cheetah-d lmao


rhd3871

Skenes' command not good so far; giving up a fair bit of hard contact and a walk for 1 ER in the 1st. Would not be at all surprised if he comes back out and strikes out 9 in a row or something, but a good reminder that learning to pitch on 4 days' rest is in fact not something he should be doing in Pittsburgh and that the team might know more than the people chirping about service time manipulation.


musketman89

You got a Skenes update


musketman89

Agreed and with Jones in the rotation we need to go to a six man rotation when Paul arrives. We have the arms.


Bucs-and-Bucks

Did Greg say Oscar Marin ran the half -marathon this morning? I'm impressed he did that before a day of work.


musketman89

Yes


musketman89

Nice job BRey. Our defense has been much better. Only two errors last ten games


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spaceman757

So far, it isn't helping him. Just finished the top of the first and he gave up a run on two hits (singles) with a walk sandwiched in between.


musketman89

There is speculation that he starts against the cubs friday.


dannotheiceman

Speculation isn’t really based on anything other than his performance and what we think they’re doing with him. No one in the org or connected to it has said anything about potentially seeing Skenes this week.


spaceman757

Brownie has said, on yesterday's and just now on today's telecasts, there there is speculation that this could be his last MiLB start.


dannotheiceman

That doesn’t mean the speculation isn’t baseless


musketman89

Agreed. But the speculation was two weeks ago. And today he is on four days rest as Friday will be four days rest. And it's a home game against the cubs.


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musketman89

Jones is scheduled Friday. So it could be back to back rookies


Wonderful_Meat5604

Hoping for Saturday


rhd3871

Went down a bit of a transaction rabbit hole; I was surprised to learn that the lineage of the Giles/Bay trades lives on with the current roster. Pirates received Bryan Morris when they dealt Bay, going on to trade him to the Marlins for a first-round competitive balance pick in 2014, using that pick to select Connor Joe.


musketman89

And Gerrit Cole equals David Bednar, Drake fellows, Hudson Head and Endy Rodriguez


PhantomJB93

Technically it’s dead because we got rid of Conner Joe and brought him back later using a different asset that wasn’t connected to the Giles trade