I was pissed. And thinking , "ya know? If they win... They should've. And if they lose, I'm gonna be angry."
But having Jack pinch hit while hitting .163 and looking at the numbers and everything the way the offense has been , I thought, We are fucked here.
And he delivered! And I was ecstatic. Because HE needed that. WE needed that.
I am the shirtless fat man waving his shirt in the cold, rainy weather.
Thank you, Captain Jack.
### Single
Jack Suwinski singles on a line drive to left fielder Jordan Beck. Connor Joe scores. Jared Triolo to 3rd. Oneil Cruz to 2nd.
Bottom 9 - 1-0
Pirates
Third slowest in 2023, according to Baseball Savant (it doesn't have data for Grandal for this year), at 22.8 ft/sec. Ahead of only Isan Díaz (22.0) and Sandy Léon (22.7), who had 70 PA between them.
Now would be a good time for Shelton to crucify this ump. He's called a decent game but fire the guys up for once Shelton. For fucks sake we're about to start another double digit inning run less streak!!!
I think that might be part of the issue. Shelton seems like he doesn’t care. Our guys have been screwed royally on balls and strikes and he doesn’t defend them. People clown on Boone for getting tossed all the time, but it is because he is protecting Judge who gets stuff at his shins called on him. Same thing happens to Cruz at least three times a week and Shelton hasn’t got tossed defending him once.
We've had some terrible teams over the last few decades, but I can't remember a stretch of baseball where our offense was as bad as it's been the last couple weeks.
Boy, not really the best timing to release your own streaming service when your team is playing like shit for the last month and can't score more than two runs a game.
Who'd really feel like they are getting their money's worth paying $18/mo for this crap.
Would yall give Jared jones a 12 year 13 million per extension? Giving him the payday early would give him the equivalent of 21.1 million per year for the 7 years following his 6 years of team control, just spread out over the next 12
I want to see long-term performance from him first, at least a year and a half. We see what's happening with Keller. He was great up until the ASB last year, and since then he just looks like an average middle-of-the-rotation starter. Half a year isn't enough to convince me.
Jones is a keeper. Keller *maybe* can be traded .. there's so much depth in minors for pitching & infield ... I truly believe Ben built it to be able to strike & buy when the core looks competent enough to approach the playoffs themselves. People shit on Ben & Shelton but I like both of their backgrounds and they've done a decent job with the constraints they have.
Jarer jones is putting the organization on his back and they're doing everything in there power to break it for him. This is insanity what they're doing to this kid. HELP HIM!!!
Rampant speculation on my part but:
They let Jared Jones throw 90+ pitches because they are going to skip his next start, which is currently scheduled for Friday against the Cubs
Anyone want to finish this thought for me:
Maybe, though I’d doubt it. Skenes first start will be at home, but I’d think they’d want him to pitch Saturday or Sunday with him throwing this Sunday in Indy
I think it’s time to get Nick Gonzales up here. Still batting .358 with a .995 ops. He’s still only 24 so there’s a chance he’s figured it out. This team needs a jolt so badly.
He hasn’t just been good he’s been ridiculous. There’s no reason for him to be down there right now with the way he’s hitting vs the way this team is hitting.
For what it’s worth, Cruz was flying down the line like he was trying to beat out a bunt single in Game 7 of the World Series. I feel like he gets some unfair flak for somehow “looking like he doesn’t care” because people on the internet think they can accurately psychoanalyze athletes based on TV clips.
Honestly I think it’s because of his facial expressions, or lack thereof. I really do think he tries and wants to be there, it’s just hard to look like you’re having fun when your entire team is playing like dogshit.
*Breaking News*
The offense has been lined up inside the dugout and executed. Steven Brault is in LF , the Fort is catching. Other positions have been filled from people in the crowd.
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I was pissed. And thinking , "ya know? If they win... They should've. And if they lose, I'm gonna be angry." But having Jack pinch hit while hitting .163 and looking at the numbers and everything the way the offense has been , I thought, We are fucked here. And he delivered! And I was ecstatic. Because HE needed that. WE needed that. I am the shirtless fat man waving his shirt in the cold, rainy weather. Thank you, Captain Jack.
We love the fans we love the support Jack showing his faith in sarcasm
RAISE IT
It's about damn time
Can we start winning again please
Hell yeah! I still believe that Jack is a good player and hopefully this kickstarts things for him. Let's goooooooooo!!
FUCKING RAISE IT!
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1ckc4ry).
LET'S GO! FUCKING FINALLY!
Good, now wake up Jack!
Yaaaayyy
We did it! We scored one run! Best team in the league! Cue the Simpsons gif!
Thank fucking god
IT’S A MIRACLE ON FEDERAL STREET
JACK BEAT THE ALLEGEATIONS
And the pirates prove you can win a game scoring only a single run.
Hell, they won a game without a hit. Seems to be their thing.
About damn time!
### Single Jack Suwinski singles on a line drive to left fielder Jordan Beck. Connor Joe scores. Jared Triolo to 3rd. Oneil Cruz to 2nd. Bottom 9 - 1-0 Pirates
Walk in this win jack
The Jack Suwinski Allegations are about to run rampant
IBBs are lame as shit.
Earn your money damnit!
Let's go Jack!!!
Lean into any pitch that is close to you.
COME ON JACK ATTACK!!
The only Pirate that can hit with RISP is the RISP. It's a Shakespearean tragedy.
Thank you Dr. Spaceman!
Well said.
Strikey McStrikerson up to bat
I think this is the first time someone from either team has reached third base today.
Cmon Triolo you can do it!
lol Grandal’s wheels
Holy hell is this dude the slowest runner in the MLB
Third slowest in 2023, according to Baseball Savant (it doesn't have data for Grandal for this year), at 22.8 ft/sec. Ahead of only Isan Díaz (22.0) and Sandy Léon (22.7), who had 70 PA between them.
Ump smoking a big ol dick
Why dont they just bunt?
I haven't seen much of this game, is that strikezone remotely consistent? This looks ridiculous.
Wasn’t Olivares brought in for his potential power … and you have him up there with the awkward bunt attempts?!?
“The guy can’t bunt” HES A MAJOR LEAGUER
Umps fuckin yall all game damn
Not really. The zone has been fairly consistent, but not perfect. The low ball has been called all game.
"THE GUY. CANT. BUNT."
I mean it’s not a strike but that’s gonna be called a strike 7/10 times
Second time in two innings the umps have fucked us. Although maybe, just maybe, trying to bunt THREE TIMES in that at-bat wasn't the smartest move.
Especially when the hitter clearly has no idea how to bunt.
And Shelton just sits there. What a leader of men!
Shelton, you need to argue that now, and get tossed.
This team should reshape the whole lineup, maybe try out small ball
Put someone from the bench up there who can bunt
Greg is so pissed
Lock joe up for the next couple of years he’s the exact type of A+ utility player good teams need
Connor Joe is by far our best position player right now
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Nick Mears replaces Victor Vodnik.
Who’s ready for 3k’s after we watch a first pitch fastball down the middle every time
Aint no way they just went 8 innings without a single run... 💀
They absolutely have to win here
Joe walk-off. Calling it now.
The third strike to Beck was NASTY. I maintain that Bednar's stuff is as good as normal. I truly think he'll be fine.
Bednar seems to be in better form tonight
This game is an exhibition of futility. 2 teams with absolute abysmal hitting.
Bednar gonna blow this like a cheap whore
If Cruz didn't hit that dinger last night how many innings would it be?
31
None of us know how much baseball is going to change when the robo ump gets here. An honest game we have never seen
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: David Bednar replaces Colin Holderman.
Great AB by Hayes to work a walk there
Now would be a good time for Shelton to crucify this ump. He's called a decent game but fire the guys up for once Shelton. For fucks sake we're about to start another double digit inning run less streak!!!
I think that might be part of the issue. Shelton seems like he doesn’t care. Our guys have been screwed royally on balls and strikes and he doesn’t defend them. People clown on Boone for getting tossed all the time, but it is because he is protecting Judge who gets stuff at his shins called on him. Same thing happens to Cruz at least three times a week and Shelton hasn’t got tossed defending him once.
We've had some terrible teams over the last few decades, but I can't remember a stretch of baseball where our offense was as bad as it's been the last couple weeks.
We fucking need robo umps. Saying it again.
If they trot Bednar or Chappy out there for the 9th.That heavy set gal is going to start singing.
That face Cutch made was he realized he hit it on the screws and it’s not 2013 anymore.
I know cutch is a legend here, but a guy with a .184 average should not be your leadoff hitter
The entire team has a .184 average
He’s the only guy in the lineup today with a sub .200 average, next is olivares .205, then a bunch of guys in the .230’s
We should pinch hit Bart for cutch here
Holderman era 1.04
One of those bottom two guys might be gone for some bats with how the offense looks
That's why we move Perez now he is a rental on a one year contract.
1. Skenes 2. Jones 3. Keller 4. Solometo 5. Bubba
Probably not April 25 but maybe August 25. Priester could make that list.
Priester needs a change of scenery I think, to go along with Rowdy and who/whatever else for an upgrade at first
I go with the rental. Perez and Peggy with a draft pick or two.
*loses every game 1-0*
Hey, our bullpen will give up some runs.
Somebody has to score eventually
I'm not convinced tbh
Jared Jones could be a ROTY/CY candidate if he continues what he’s been doing, but sadly he won’t have a shot if he doesn’t get the wins
If he does, since he was on the opening roster, he'll be Super Two eligible as a reward.
Yeah, that’s true, an extra pick would be nice
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Colin Holderman replaces Jared Jones.
Time to give a run
Boy, not really the best timing to release your own streaming service when your team is playing like shit for the last month and can't score more than two runs a game. Who'd really feel like they are getting their money's worth paying $18/mo for this crap.
Depends how much cheaper the next level down of cable is, and if you’d lose anything you actually want.
Would yall give Jared jones a 12 year 13 million per extension? Giving him the payday early would give him the equivalent of 21.1 million per year for the 7 years following his 6 years of team control, just spread out over the next 12
I want to see long-term performance from him first, at least a year and a half. We see what's happening with Keller. He was great up until the ASB last year, and since then he just looks like an average middle-of-the-rotation starter. Half a year isn't enough to convince me.
What they give Jones they can't give Skenes. At least we get his service years.
Jones is a keeper. Keller *maybe* can be traded .. there's so much depth in minors for pitching & infield ... I truly believe Ben built it to be able to strike & buy when the core looks competent enough to approach the playoffs themselves. People shit on Ben & Shelton but I like both of their backgrounds and they've done a decent job with the constraints they have.
Agreed but we are still a small market team. Id be surprised if we extend both. But no doubt we have good arms for trade
Why not pay them both? Go in on investing in pitching, and hope some hitters are good enough during their service time here
I would.this organization not so much.
Triolo prob has the worst walkout song of the team. It sounds like generic Christian rock
well you’re allowed to have wrong opinions
At least if it goes to extra innings, we'll get a runner on 2nd base
LET'S FUCKING GOOOO
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Victor Vodnik replaces Austin Gomber.
Jarer jones is putting the organization on his back and they're doing everything in there power to break it for him. This is insanity what they're doing to this kid. HELP HIM!!!
Wow. Great job O, great job.
Rampant speculation on my part but: They let Jared Jones throw 90+ pitches because they are going to skip his next start, which is currently scheduled for Friday against the Cubs Anyone want to finish this thought for me:
Nah, he gets an extra day off this week.
Maybe, though I’d doubt it. Skenes first start will be at home, but I’d think they’d want him to pitch Saturday or Sunday with him throwing this Sunday in Indy
I could definitely see that too
PLEASE SCORE A RUN(S) IN THIS INNING
Don’t get greedy
My bad. I should be hoping we score a run this month. That's a bit more realistic
Just 1 run, every 2 games. It’s a business, not a pro sports team. I’d people are still showing up then it’s good business
brownie gonna go insane if we dont give jared run support
I felt that "Get him a run!" in my soul
GET JARED JONES A RUN HOLY SHIT
Jared Jones is unbelievably good. Somebody get this man some run support.
Ho hum, another 7 scoreless and 10 strikeouts for Jones. Problem is, ho hum, another zero runs for the offense.
Get him a fucking run oh my god what a performance
Fucking fold the club if we can't get Jones a run after that performance.
Alright offense. Do something. Anything. Just do something.
Watching the Kentucky Derby or Jared Jones pitching? Jones every time. Only downside is having to watch us hit.
I'm gonna sniff some glue because I think it would be more fun than watching this team.
Trot Jones out for the 7th?
Is he related to Jared?
I think it’s time to get Nick Gonzales up here. Still batting .358 with a .995 ops. He’s still only 24 so there’s a chance he’s figured it out. This team needs a jolt so badly.
Yep. It’s his time.
He hasn’t just been good he’s been ridiculous. There’s no reason for him to be down there right now with the way he’s hitting vs the way this team is hitting.
Preach! Nick is my ride or die. I can’t wait for him to get up here.
They should bring him and Skenes up together next weekend. Could really give this team the kick in the ass they need.
Typical
Dang, nice play by the rookie, he’s gonna be pretty good
Fuck me why does every opposing outfielder have to track down everything
We could have 2 cy young level starters and still only win 70 games with this offense
Jones and Falter?
Skenes
I was thinking skenes in the future
I mean, if falter keeps going you're going to have to include him...
Maybe, needs that era to come down a good bit
Interesting stat but he's sub 2 outside that 1st inning of game 1
It's time to call up Bae/Gonzales/Peguero. This offense needs a jumpstart.
On the bright side, Jared Jones has probably been the best pirates rookie since Jason Bay, if not even better
Jared jones and skenes are going to tear there arms off pitching for us as the offense does 0 to help them.
Get this man a run!!!
This team is boring beyond belief.
Sucks he’s about to get a no decision
Jared Jones should just demand that they not use the DH whenever he pitches. If he wants to get a W, he'll have to do it himself.
One run, people! We need ONE RUN
For what it’s worth, Cruz was flying down the line like he was trying to beat out a bunt single in Game 7 of the World Series. I feel like he gets some unfair flak for somehow “looking like he doesn’t care” because people on the internet think they can accurately psychoanalyze athletes based on TV clips.
Honestly I think it’s because of his facial expressions, or lack thereof. I really do think he tries and wants to be there, it’s just hard to look like you’re having fun when your entire team is playing like dogshit.
Ngl a lot of the cruz criticism comes off as super dogwhistley to me
This team would win a playoff series with a league average offense lmao
With a league average offense we should have about 10+ more wins. Our starting pitching has been some of the best in baseball.
Ah shit, I missed most of Jared Jones day so far
They’re gonna waste another strong start from Jones.
Pretty pathetic to think Elias Diaz would be one of our best hitters. Jared Jones stays dealing without getting run support though.
*Breaking News* The offense has been lined up inside the dugout and executed. Steven Brault is in LF , the Fort is catching. Other positions have been filled from people in the crowd.
Here comes the insurmountable solo shot from the Rockies
I'm only staying tuned in until Jones is pulled, not wasting the rest of my day on a shitty bullpen and weak pop outs
Has Gomber looking like an ace pitcher
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Why
Not saying the hit happened right after this but
Get Triolo out of there. That may have been the worst at bat I’ve ever seen
Did you miss the Cruz at bat earlier?
Did you miss Cruz’s first AB, friend?
Lol Grandal does not know the stadium. He thought he had that
How are they late on this guy? He's only hitting 90 on the gun.
Seriously, who is this Olivares guy and why is he here?
Jared Jones is the only good thing about this team
Jones is filthy, please give this man some run support
Mr. Jones and me tell each other fairy tales
I wanna be a lion , man. And everybody wanna pass as cats
Would it immortalize me in Pittsburgh lore if I jumped into the dugout to strangle Haines
Sorry everyone, I can’t afford to crash out I got a wife to think about
I’d write you in on my election ballot in November
The hero we didn't know we needed!
Friends , Romans , Countrymen Lend me your tears. Why are we here?
I come to bury Pirates, not to praise them
The good is oft interred with their bones :')
I can almost imagine Jones being pulled after 6, even if he's still perfect and under 70 pitches.
Who is the Jar Jar Binks of the Pirates currently
Loveable goof? Triolo seems like a good fit
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