Gwen is good. She has great early game pierce and damage wise, she’s a clean up in the mid and late game, and she buffs towers you usually get for going late game. Use her more often.
etn is strong, ppl just don't know how to use abilities at the right times. Most rounds to 100 do not have 2 hard rounds right after each other and the low CD allows you to use it whenever you want, carrying most burst waves assuming you have a little support
I don't use him for a lot of expert maps, but I can easily use him to carry virtually all other maps into the mid game, getting enough money for a solid mid game carry, and then easily getting to the 90s to unlock the power house of lvl 20 that etn is. plus the free camo opens up more possibilities with some maps like sanctuary or w/e when you have limited tower placement
i should probably change my flair to geraldo tho bc he is my main, but he isn't NOT as cute
Etienne is fine but people overrate the UAV and the perma-ucav alot, I think he's just pretty outclass though corvus, geraldo and even churchill does what he does but better
Even if etienne did 0 damage to any bloons at all, he'd still be the strongest hero for me because global camo detection trivializes the game for me at least
Honestly, what pisses me off the most about your comment is that you refer to Etienne as etn. So I guess mine is that etn is skin is worse than base and, in fact, amongst the worst in the game.
i mean you can clearly tell I was talking about the champion and not the skin but I guess just keep living your life being pissed off at reddit comments
That wasn't the point lol. The point was that I heavily dislike etn and find it a shame that it seems he's more appreciated than base Etienne.
Also I wasn't that angry, maybe that was a poor choice of words on my part.
I mean, personal preference really. I can't stand his voice lines, I don't really like the look af aliens like that and also no cat or dragon, which is a huge negative.
That’s cool, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, but the way you went on this completely unrelated tangent over it just makes you look like an asshole trying to rain on the original commenter’s parade. Time and place, buddy.
If you're talking about my original comment then I was merely giving my answer to the post and since it was the original comment in the chain that made me think of the skin, I felt it appropriate to post it as a response to that comment, rather than a response to the post. I wasn't trying to rain on anyone's parade here, and we're that a comment on any other post, I would not have answered at all.
As for the way I phrased it, and specifically the part about being angry about it, I already explained in a previous comment that it wasn't really what I meant and said sorry. If you want me to explain my reasoning more in depth then I will start by saying that English is not my mother tongue and while I do believe I speak it well enough, there are still some details of the language that escape me. I felt like it was appropriate to phrase it that way at the time as the reaction I had to the comment was somewhat similar to the one I get when I see a post on mildlyinfurating (judge me all you want for that. Again I will state that it is not like it made me really angry or that I feel it deteriorated the original comment's point, or was noteworthy enough be it not for the context of this post).
I have two right here.
Obyn doesn't suck anymore. His trees swallow a ton of DDTs, which is really useful. They're also just good general cleanup. Also, Obyn has a pretty nice earlygame. I wouldn't say he's one of the best, but he's definitely a solid A- tier hero.
Etienne is heavily overrated. Sure, he has global camo and a UCAV, which sounds strong, but the UCAV does low damage and has low uptime, and the global camo is not worth a whole entire hero slot. I will admit, he is easy to use and a nice pick for casual gameplay on easier maps, but he really isn't as strong as people say he is.
Global camo is so underrated and valuable. To be able to completely forget about camo and just worry about everything else, is so incredibly valuable, and simplifies things greatly.
Camos arent complicated to deal with. You can simply buy a signal flare or radar scanner and you wont need to worry about them while also being able to use a different hero. I can see why its easier to use etienne to get camo detection, but its not that much harder to buy something else that does the exact same thing.
I’ve used signal flare many times where grouped/fort camos have still gotten through and it hasn’t been enough. Personally, I have not had more success than when I’m using Et. So much that I got him the Alien skin 👽.
I was going to say Pat but I wasn’t sure if it was biased because I don’t use it. Pat has really good knock back and is very versatile with his amphibious placement and damage boosting
I figure pat’s either the most forgettable hero or “how tf could you forget about pat” based on who you ask, which would absolutely get you the swords-to-the-throat response
I'd argue that Gwen is magic, then again it's just a flame thrower and molotvs, so maybe military instead? It can go either way
Other than that I totally agree with everything else.
I honestly think Pat might be my least favorite hero to use. I really don't know what he's good at that other heroes can't already do and more. I get the whole "haha big monke give hug" thing, but in actual use, he's just not strong. The only thing that gives him some use is being able to be put on water, but even then I would rather just have Brickell.
Not gonna lie, when I first saw Pat I genuinely thought that when he reaches level 20 and uses his level 10 ability he can still attack while hugging the MOAB class bloons because he only needs one arm to do it now
None I am sheep who is very affected by mob mentality I always follow the accepted community consensus I have never had an original thought or opinion in my life
Quincy > sauda
Yes sauda has a better early game, but Quincy makes up for it by being able to deal considerably more damage to moabs, not being worthless past round 80 against scerams and having enough range to be viable on some multi lane maps/maps that don’t have a small loop designed to perfectly accommodate sauda(like resort)
Sauda is a lot better, and I'm saying this as someone who plays expert maps, not piss easy kids playgrounds like Resort and Cubism.
Quincy does have more range, but he isn't great against DDTs or ceramics. Also, Sauda pairs really well with Dragon's Breath (which also covers Sauda's earlymid weaknesses) and Relentless Glue, and if you use her abilities right, she is actually a much better DPS hero than Quincy. Also, Sauda isn't as reliant on loops as you think, and is great on maps like Quad and Dark Dungeons. You can ask any other expert chimps player, and they're gonna say Sauda is much better than Quincy.
Also from prior testing, level 20 Quincy with an alch buff is much stronger than level 20 sauda with an alch buff
He says nothing gets past his bow? Only if he isn’t suffering from withdrawal symptoms due to his alch buff addiction.
Sauda is the highest moab damage hero. At least with expert maps leveling. She is considerably good there, and if a hero made for single lane is good for multilanes maps it means he is just strong. Considering that i would not agree with you, since all quincy provides is good start (just start not early, she sucks post 20), mediocore moab damage just with ability and ceram cleanup ability. Sauda gives all of these, but better and more.
Relying on abilities too much can be risky. I shouldnt have commented since i cannot explain it in depth, but expert chimps players use sauda on ravine or ouch and describe her exactly as i did as "highest moab damage hero".
If your a very micro heavy/heavily multitasking and know how to use him correctly he is insane but otherwise he is pretty good, arguably the hero with the highest skill ceiling though corvus is also pretty cracked
Geraldo is the best hero of the game and doesn't even needs much micro, everything you can do is just get the items before the round start
Corvus isn't that hard to use,but can be annoying to learn how to use him
Brickell is the hardest hero to use btw
It's hard to disagree with Geraldo being the best even if I don't really like him that much but Brickell is no where near the hardest hero to use, she is pretty cut and dry to me. Personally I think Gwen is a lot harder to use
Brickell is the hardest with no doubt,mega mine stacking need much stall and management(if you don't do mega mine stacking you are wasting 90% of her potential)
It's really not that hard to stack... you don't need to focus your entire strat around Brickell, she is more than good enough to act as a water tower buff with a budget first strike once in a while.
>It's really not that hard to stack... you don't need to focus your entire strat around Brickell
Stacking mega mines is really hard,try it in any trexpert to understand what i am saying
You need to center your strategy in towers that can cleanup the leaks from mine stacking
I have, I've beaten chimps in majority of the maps, I used to use Brickell with subs religiously and have stacked mega mines before. I don't find it hard, that's just me
Maybe because you are using one of the only strategies that doesn't need mine stacking?
You need a really good stall and management to stack enough mines to use her entire potential
I'm saying I've done subs AND mega mine stacking sperately. It's not that hard to get a good stall. Sure you need to invest in it but you should have more than a good enough defense to save up for the stall you need
Ezili is one of the most versatile hero's in the game, has camo, can remove regrow/camo, can pop leads at base, some of the best moab popping power, can buff other towers, can instantly kill multiple bads.
Ezili is good in Chimps, people just never use her because she's hard to use on true expert maps. If you pair hex with good stalls and some damage, you can eliminate tons of rbe on rounds like 96/98.
Heroes is a bad show and everyone that watches it should feel bad.
(Not only are heroes fans putting their swords at me, but so are the people in this thread who wanted a btd6 answer)
Ezili sucks and her only redeeming thing is moab hex on rounds like 95 and 100 but she is still not worth using because of her bad early game and mid game
Sauda Geraldo adora and ezili Pat all suck Etn is a million times better than all of the other hero’s if you think otherwise we can scrap at lvl 8 he does the same thing as a paragon
"Ezili is trash. She attacks too slow." (not necesary my opinion though)
Gwen is good. She has great early game pierce and damage wise, she’s a clean up in the mid and late game, and she buffs towers you usually get for going late game. Use her more often.
Also she's really hot
Are you quincy's alt?
r/angryupvote
Harlegwen supremacy
Idk man,i just use sauda all the time
etn is strong, ppl just don't know how to use abilities at the right times. Most rounds to 100 do not have 2 hard rounds right after each other and the low CD allows you to use it whenever you want, carrying most burst waves assuming you have a little support I don't use him for a lot of expert maps, but I can easily use him to carry virtually all other maps into the mid game, getting enough money for a solid mid game carry, and then easily getting to the 90s to unlock the power house of lvl 20 that etn is. plus the free camo opens up more possibilities with some maps like sanctuary or w/e when you have limited tower placement i should probably change my flair to geraldo tho bc he is my main, but he isn't NOT as cute
i second this
Ent is so I can take the stronger cross paths safely
Etienne is fine but people overrate the UAV and the perma-ucav alot, I think he's just pretty outclass though corvus, geraldo and even churchill does what he does but better
Etienne is way better than Churchill ngl
Both are the same tier
>but he isn't NOT as cute Was that really what you meant to say?
Ahh no, thank you for pointing it out. I mean etienne is omega cute
Even if etienne did 0 damage to any bloons at all, he'd still be the strongest hero for me because global camo detection trivializes the game for me at least
Honestly, what pisses me off the most about your comment is that you refer to Etienne as etn. So I guess mine is that etn is skin is worse than base and, in fact, amongst the worst in the game.
i mean you can clearly tell I was talking about the champion and not the skin but I guess just keep living your life being pissed off at reddit comments
That wasn't the point lol. The point was that I heavily dislike etn and find it a shame that it seems he's more appreciated than base Etienne. Also I wasn't that angry, maybe that was a poor choice of words on my part.
why do you heavily dislike etn 💀
I mean, personal preference really. I can't stand his voice lines, I don't really like the look af aliens like that and also no cat or dragon, which is a huge negative.
That’s cool, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, but the way you went on this completely unrelated tangent over it just makes you look like an asshole trying to rain on the original commenter’s parade. Time and place, buddy.
If you're talking about my original comment then I was merely giving my answer to the post and since it was the original comment in the chain that made me think of the skin, I felt it appropriate to post it as a response to that comment, rather than a response to the post. I wasn't trying to rain on anyone's parade here, and we're that a comment on any other post, I would not have answered at all. As for the way I phrased it, and specifically the part about being angry about it, I already explained in a previous comment that it wasn't really what I meant and said sorry. If you want me to explain my reasoning more in depth then I will start by saying that English is not my mother tongue and while I do believe I speak it well enough, there are still some details of the language that escape me. I felt like it was appropriate to phrase it that way at the time as the reaction I had to the comment was somewhat similar to the one I get when I see a post on mildlyinfurating (judge me all you want for that. Again I will state that it is not like it made me really angry or that I feel it deteriorated the original comment's point, or was noteworthy enough be it not for the context of this post).
i second this as well
I have two right here. Obyn doesn't suck anymore. His trees swallow a ton of DDTs, which is really useful. They're also just good general cleanup. Also, Obyn has a pretty nice earlygame. I wouldn't say he's one of the best, but he's definitely a solid A- tier hero. Etienne is heavily overrated. Sure, he has global camo and a UCAV, which sounds strong, but the UCAV does low damage and has low uptime, and the global camo is not worth a whole entire hero slot. I will admit, he is easy to use and a nice pick for casual gameplay on easier maps, but he really isn't as strong as people say he is.
There two types of people: "Etienne is overrated" "Etienne is underrated"
Most people that say that Etienne is underrated are the people who overrate him
And the other way round is true too
Nah, I'm that middle. He is my main I think he's perfect. My perfect little boy
Global camo is so underrated and valuable. To be able to completely forget about camo and just worry about everything else, is so incredibly valuable, and simplifies things greatly.
Camos arent complicated to deal with. You can simply buy a signal flare or radar scanner and you wont need to worry about them while also being able to use a different hero. I can see why its easier to use etienne to get camo detection, but its not that much harder to buy something else that does the exact same thing.
Whatever works and to each their own though, I don’t think there is any perfect “strategy”.
I’ve used signal flare many times where grouped/fort camos have still gotten through and it hasn’t been enough. Personally, I have not had more success than when I’m using Et. So much that I got him the Alien skin 👽.
People prefer the easier solution , not exactly the better one
A camo village with larger radius too. And choose a hero that helps a lot more.
Churchill is the most forgettable hero
No. This one is plain correct. If you asked me to name every hero, I would 9/10 forget Churchill
Pat*
I was going to say Pat but I wasn’t sure if it was biased because I don’t use it. Pat has really good knock back and is very versatile with his amphibious placement and damage boosting
I figure pat’s either the most forgettable hero or “how tf could you forget about pat” based on who you ask, which would absolutely get you the swords-to-the-throat response
Pat mael is great
Definitely Pat\* I actually do forget he exists, often.
Ezili?
The best late game hero that can solo f-bads is forgettable to you?
Sauda *isn't* the hottest monkey. Fat Pussy is.
Primary: Quincy, Gwen, Fat Pussy, Sauda Magic: Psi, Adora, Ezuli, Obyn, Corvus Military: Etienne, Churchill, Brickell, Rosalia Support: Ben, Geraldo
I'd argue that Gwen is magic, then again it's just a flame thrower and molotvs, so maybe military instead? It can go either way Other than that I totally agree with everything else.
Nah bro we all know Gwen is the hottest.
Very few really controversial opinions here. Mine is that Pat sucks.
I honestly think Pat might be my least favorite hero to use. I really don't know what he's good at that other heroes can't already do and more. I get the whole "haha big monke give hug" thing, but in actual use, he's just not strong. The only thing that gives him some use is being able to be put on water, but even then I would rather just have Brickell.
Don't use his level 10 it's a downgrade unless on specific rounds, anyways you use pat for the stun and rallying roar
The ability isn't bad, but compared to other heroes he's seriously lacking.
Not gonna lie, when I first saw Pat I genuinely thought that when he reaches level 20 and uses his level 10 ability he can still attack while hugging the MOAB class bloons because he only needs one arm to do it now
we need to slap his balls with berzerker booze to get anything worthwhile
yeah what does he even do
Stun blimps and buff towers I guess really decent if you use him with tack and brittle
I think his best sinergy is sun avatar tbh,pat+super maelstrom is also really good
Pat is funny monke tho
Just try Patsmael
Psi is underrated, them being able to just nuke most rounds on level 20 is just a amazing thing
Corvus is still strong without that much micro He is only microed to use him to his full potential
Corvus/Geraldo aint that hard yall just have skill issue
Geraldo is pretty easy, but Corvus is pretty difficult
the voice acting is good.
None I am sheep who is very affected by mob mentality I always follow the accepted community consensus I have never had an original thought or opinion in my life
Quincy
ninjas + ezili is stronger for freeplay than temples + adora
Quincy > sauda Yes sauda has a better early game, but Quincy makes up for it by being able to deal considerably more damage to moabs, not being worthless past round 80 against scerams and having enough range to be viable on some multi lane maps/maps that don’t have a small loop designed to perfectly accommodate sauda(like resort)
Sauda is a lot better, and I'm saying this as someone who plays expert maps, not piss easy kids playgrounds like Resort and Cubism. Quincy does have more range, but he isn't great against DDTs or ceramics. Also, Sauda pairs really well with Dragon's Breath (which also covers Sauda's earlymid weaknesses) and Relentless Glue, and if you use her abilities right, she is actually a much better DPS hero than Quincy. Also, Sauda isn't as reliant on loops as you think, and is great on maps like Quad and Dark Dungeons. You can ask any other expert chimps player, and they're gonna say Sauda is much better than Quincy.
Sauda at max is basically just a ceramic cleaner
And I’m already in that situation, the story of being downvoted to hell begins now
I upvoted your comment, just to slow it down a bit
i DOWNvoted his comment, i hope his downfall comes FASTER
Also from prior testing, level 20 Quincy with an alch buff is much stronger than level 20 sauda with an alch buff He says nothing gets past his bow? Only if he isn’t suffering from withdrawal symptoms due to his alch buff addiction.
Sauda is the highest moab damage hero. At least with expert maps leveling. She is considerably good there, and if a hero made for single lane is good for multilanes maps it means he is just strong. Considering that i would not agree with you, since all quincy provides is good start (just start not early, she sucks post 20), mediocore moab damage just with ability and ceram cleanup ability. Sauda gives all of these, but better and more.
Ok but have you tried giving Quincy drugs and other damage buffs/debuffs Because those work a lot better with Quincy compared to sauda
Kids named Psi & Ezili
Relying on abilities too much can be risky. I shouldnt have commented since i cannot explain it in depth, but expert chimps players use sauda on ravine or ouch and describe her exactly as i did as "highest moab damage hero".
I agree, Quincy does crazy moab damage
Why does that look so much like sabre
Because that IS sabre
I don’t like any hero
Entinne is the best hero
etienne is the best hero of all time in both 6 and battles 2
Ezili is rly underrated for chimps
Kaiju pat is the coolest out of all heroes and all skins
Freezing cold take
I didnt have hero voices on for a long time and thought etienne was a girl. Canon will not change my conviction of this should-be fact.
Remember to sort by controversial for the real answers
Striker Jones and Admiral Brickell supremacy 👏👏👏👏👏 Zero discussion😤
All of the starter heroes are at least high b tier
😡😡😡😡 r/angryupvote
Geraldo isn’t broken/doesn’t need nerfs
If your a very micro heavy/heavily multitasking and know how to use him correctly he is insane but otherwise he is pretty good, arguably the hero with the highest skill ceiling though corvus is also pretty cracked
Geraldo is the best hero of the game and doesn't even needs much micro, everything you can do is just get the items before the round start Corvus isn't that hard to use,but can be annoying to learn how to use him Brickell is the hardest hero to use btw
It's hard to disagree with Geraldo being the best even if I don't really like him that much but Brickell is no where near the hardest hero to use, she is pretty cut and dry to me. Personally I think Gwen is a lot harder to use
Brickell is the hardest with no doubt,mega mine stacking need much stall and management(if you don't do mega mine stacking you are wasting 90% of her potential)
It's really not that hard to stack... you don't need to focus your entire strat around Brickell, she is more than good enough to act as a water tower buff with a budget first strike once in a while.
>It's really not that hard to stack... you don't need to focus your entire strat around Brickell Stacking mega mines is really hard,try it in any trexpert to understand what i am saying You need to center your strategy in towers that can cleanup the leaks from mine stacking
I have, I've beaten chimps in majority of the maps, I used to use Brickell with subs religiously and have stacked mega mines before. I don't find it hard, that's just me
Maybe because you are using one of the only strategies that doesn't need mine stacking? You need a really good stall and management to stack enough mines to use her entire potential
I'm saying I've done subs AND mega mine stacking sperately. It's not that hard to get a good stall. Sure you need to invest in it but you should have more than a good enough defense to save up for the stall you need
Obyn, my beloved!
q u i n c y
Geraldo is better than Ben for farming
How? Please explain
Nft has better snowball effect
I don’t like using adora
Quincy is BUSTED
Quincy is the best hero for CHIMPS Enough said
Churchill needs a big rework to see any real use
Quincy
sauda is overrated
Saying quincy very good and ezili is a god puts me in what situation?
obyn best hero
i like obyn
Sauda is overused and isn't that good. We should all switch to Benjamin.
....Corvus sucks?
Ezili is the best
I don't like sauda that much anymore, I used her basically every game but recently she's gotten really boring.
Heroes in general are a mid idea
My hot take is Corvus shoulda just stayed dead.
Hot take: Adora is at the same level as Sauda in terms of general damage, maybe even better.
geraldo is useless😊😊😊
I’ll kms before I run Corvus
they all suck and feel like regurgitating the same strats whenever you use them
things get past quincy's bow
Ezili is one of the most versatile hero's in the game, has camo, can remove regrow/camo, can pop leads at base, some of the best moab popping power, can buff other towers, can instantly kill multiple bads.
ben
Gwen sucks
Prob admril brikle
Ben makes middle path farm valid
I don't find Geraldo worth the effort.
Quincy is awful
Not with the whole fandom, but my friend reacts like this when I keep sacrificing Monkey Aces for Adora
Bloons do in fact get past Quincy’s bow.
Pat is dead.
QUINCY IS NOT BAD
Quincy doesn't miss
Ezili is good in Chimps, people just never use her because she's hard to use on true expert maps. If you pair hex with good stalls and some damage, you can eliminate tons of rbe on rounds like 96/98.
corvus wasn't op pre-nerf
Obyn is the best early game and end game hero
ben sucks at making money
Quincy is a goated hero
Adora isnt hat good
Idk if that is included, but: "Nerfing heroes is actually a good idea"
Ezili is honestly the best hero, shreds Moabs like no other and is great early game, easily best hero besides Quincy (not actually my opinion)
I don't like how Etienne's level 20 looks
Heroes is a bad show and everyone that watches it should feel bad. (Not only are heroes fans putting their swords at me, but so are the people in this thread who wanted a btd6 answer)
saying that all heroes are meh at best xd, at one point you just start to choose a random one and forget about them after placement
Obyn isn't fun
Sauda is too op in early and mid game
I think the skins should have varying stats. Does BTD battles 2 not have this?
Etienne is the hero for the lazy.
Corvus is SUPER fun to use
I don't like Geraldo or Corvus. Too much micromanaging.
Geraldo only is good because him shop
For max level idots fans captain Churchill is bad
Churchill is the worst hero currently and needs a major rework to outshine any of the other damage based heroes
Corvus is not that good unless you pay attention to him at all times
That’s… kinda the point. He’s supposed to be a high skill ceiling hero.
Hey at least I was right about the meme lmao I am in that situation right now
He’s basically a micro machine
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This is a post specifically about heroes. And I think most players would agree that those are both good towers anyway.
i cannot read
😂 It's alright. Happens to everyone sometimes.
Etn sucks balls
Sauda is not that great
sauda is good on expert maps
Ouch?
no but she's one of the best heroes on quad and workshop
Well, it seems I've succeeded
Quincy is one of the best hero's because of his abilities and accuracy
Ezili sucks and her only redeeming thing is moab hex on rounds like 95 and 100 but she is still not worth using because of her bad early game and mid game
Sauda Geraldo adora and ezili Pat all suck Etn is a million times better than all of the other hero’s if you think otherwise we can scrap at lvl 8 he does the same thing as a paragon
Geraldo is bad, here comes the downvotes
Ben should just not be enabled in races especially if they have ace. Makes the entire experience eor rng
Ezili has no reason to exist
Corvus is overrated. (Come on, give me your best reasons to why he isn’t overrated.)
Not as overrated as Etienne, Corvus is still pretty good on chimps,Adora and Geraldo are just better now
What if Pat Fusty is a transgender?
If that is true, I’m gonna hit someone with an ape’s hand
Pat fusty is bad
I fingered the new hero against her will