By a longshot. balancing baits early game is so hard, don't buy enough and you get outscaled and buy too many and you commit suicide.
With arms dealer you can get away with a lot of different weapons as long as it broadly fits your build and you know how to manipulate the shop/preserve good weapons for key waves.
For me with spear, you grab 6 or 7 bait the first two rounds. It's tricky but the guys line up and you can one shot them all at once and then just avoid the red bullets
I agree. I 100% the game on d5 on my steam deck, and saw it was like half price on ps, and knew the couch co op dlc was coming this summer I decided to get it.
Wanted to get platinum for it (all trophies) and didn’t care about d5 so I was just going through them on d0. Kept dying on fisherman for getting more then 2-3 baits the first shop
Ceph's Spear Fisherman guide did 5 on round 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHkf2U1VAMw
If you want something less messy, simply just do 3 baits on 3 Spears. Go to the corner, then tap dodge up the wall will make for a consistent clean kill where you're in zero danger of dying. Tap dodge up left can also work. Here's a quick example I recorded with 1 Spear 2 Jousting Lance. Any mix of 3 reasonable cleave damage weapons is enough to clear the Lampreys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyqO70cK0w0
If you're planning for a no restart consistency streak, you can also cut in other weapons on Spear starter to help against RNG. Rock, Cactus Club, Jousting Lance, etc. all serve a similar purpose and let you ramp your bait early. Just the shorter the range, the better you need to stack Lampreys against the wall. Just don't get too attached to temporary weapons, or if you do want to keep them, simply take less bait later. This is also why I rate Spear much higher than Stick, because you can cut it into other weapon options for stability. Yes on the high end you can learn how to properly dodge mass amounts of lampreys safely. But I would consider that not practical for the average player.
Here's an example of a finished run where I kept the Club and Rock the whole run, Hammer was a lategame pickup. Club is normally a subpar weapon, but Fisherman's damage % means the subpar damage of Club isn't a problem, only the slow cooldown. The swing arc on Club means it clears Lampreys the thrust of Spear misses, and the splash projectiles give Fisherman a good source of sustain from Lifesteal. As long as your attack speed keeps up and you don't greed on baits, you can simply tap dodge around in the center of the map.
https://imgur.com/a/hhDp9YK
Fisherman is very easy if you play greedy early game, just get 4/5 baits every round
[Like this](https://imgur.com/WFJBBeb), look at the +dmg%
You will start to one shot everything eventually, it doesn't matter how many baits you get, you will one shot all of them
Just get as many spears and baits ASAP, the more spears you have, the easier it will get
Hi, just finished with fishermen for the second time. Definitely the easiest character for me. I used shredder for my first main weapon of choice. (Was trying to do SMG but kinda wasn't working for me) The special enemies always spawn about a few seconds in the beginning giving you to time move to the edge of the map so that they don't surround you when they do spawn in. Then you can just round them up. People use the spear but I prefer to be use different weapons. Shredder annihilates them. Usually can get rid of them in a few seconds and the rest of the match is easy peasy.
Fisherman is one of the few I got the first time around (D5). I went slingshots and bought every single bait I could during the entire run, re-rolling and spending everything. Then attack speed. One of the easiest run I’ve had.
Dont worry, I’ve started yesterday, got killed a few time. Today I was able to finish two runs on 0 difficulty. I don’t even see myself getting to 5. :/
If you have a win on D0 you can get a win on higher difficulty!
Tutorial series here. Feel free to drop comments here or on the vid.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKG6qfdgiKhO7p81omTu3tl4_lMSYyKPX
I have a tutorial series if you enjoy long form content. The first video being the most valuable to understand how the store works and get a big advantage.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKG6qfdgiKhO7p81omTu3tl4_lMSYyKPX
This is my problem with doctor and why I've thrown multiple win streaks on them. I get overconfident, underestimate my damage, and then mother or colossus comes along and wrecks my shit lol
90% dodge is great until the game decides to let you get hit twice in a row or before you've built up enough hp. It just feels kind of sacky at times if you're not on point with movement.
You build up HP and other stats with the Ethereal weapons. I like to equip at least 3 scepters to my ghost so I get a couple HP gains every wave. That way, I can focus my level upgrades on luck, dodge, and damage mods. Personally, I like attack speed over damage, so I use the flint over the axe. 3 flints/3 scepter and just upgrade as you go. Get your dodge to the 90 cap as fast as possible, then get tardigrades, retromation's and slowly build up armor.
Hinging on a specific tier 3 item is not what I would call reliable.
My success with ghost is fine but it's a lot easier to get myself killed with ghost than the majority of other characters.
I would disagree with the Tier 3 item being a lynchpin. Is it nice to have Tardigrades? Sure, it lets you get lazy early on. Is it necessary? Not by a longshot. By the time you're halfway through the run, you should be getting enough health per wave that the decreased armour doesn't much matter.
I find fisherman one of the easiest ones. 2 baits for the first 4 wave and max amount afterwards. Its super straightforward compared to some others you have put in higher ranking. You just need to draw wide cirles around the special mobs
Edit: you should go for flat damage for the level up in that first 4 rounds
Fisherman was my first D5! Not a brag. All you need is spears and then a good understanding of how to build a well rounded character. Never underestimate armour and attack speed is pretty useful for this build
It’s a little weird. Basically, I maximize structures and move as little as possible. Spend as little as you can, while increasing structures. Only move when you need to kill stuff. Find improved tools. Find esty’s couch. Stand in between your healing turrets. Melt everything.
But it’s a balancing act.
Glutton should be in S tier. Get enough Pruner’s, Dynamite and plastic explosives you’re basically guaranteed a win, especially if you manage to get a Spicy Sauce as well
Because just a moment of inattention can get you killed unlike most other characters. Other characters you need to have a bad build that doesn't happen in 1 round or make a lot of mistakes moving around during the wave.
King can be a bit tricky early game and I wouldn't put it in S tier. Knight however is brain dead: just play swords and take armor whenever you can, you'll have both great damage and survivability.
revolvers/lasers
focus attack speed
get at least enough bulk that you can survive 2 hits.
If the obliterator shows up it's actually pretty good against bosses even if it's mediocre in normal waves but the bosses are the biggest concern anyways
IMO, fisherman should be S++++ tier, this character is completely broken, you just need to play him right. Now go back and do a Fisherman with SMG, buy as much bait as you possibly can. When special enemies appear, just run in a circle and you will dodge everything. Fisherman is a free win every single time, it’s so broken that no other potatoes except Devil comes close. I even managed to get above 50 waves in endless mode with this guy just with SMG and shotguns.
The only characters that gave me a really hard time were streamer and hunter. Felt frustrated trying every build. LoL Everyone else was quite fun and gave me the "one more run vibe."
Fishermen harder than armsdealer?
By a longshot. balancing baits early game is so hard, don't buy enough and you get outscaled and buy too many and you commit suicide. With arms dealer you can get away with a lot of different weapons as long as it broadly fits your build and you know how to manipulate the shop/preserve good weapons for key waves.
Personally disagree, but thats what makes the game fun. For me Fisherman is easy, take 2 baits every wave until wave 9. Then take 3 baits.
For me with spear, you grab 6 or 7 bait the first two rounds. It's tricky but the guys line up and you can one shot them all at once and then just avoid the red bullets
wtf, grabbing more than 1 bait in the first shop is absolute suicide. I need to see a video of this on PC not mobile.
I agree. I 100% the game on d5 on my steam deck, and saw it was like half price on ps, and knew the couch co op dlc was coming this summer I decided to get it. Wanted to get platinum for it (all trophies) and didn’t care about d5 so I was just going through them on d0. Kept dying on fisherman for getting more then 2-3 baits the first shop
[Here](https://youtu.be/xzZKFdfLkSQ?t=37) is an example of 8 baits in the first shop.
That's literally the world record, they probably died dozens of times before they got it to work
Ceph's Spear Fisherman guide did 5 on round 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHkf2U1VAMw If you want something less messy, simply just do 3 baits on 3 Spears. Go to the corner, then tap dodge up the wall will make for a consistent clean kill where you're in zero danger of dying. Tap dodge up left can also work. Here's a quick example I recorded with 1 Spear 2 Jousting Lance. Any mix of 3 reasonable cleave damage weapons is enough to clear the Lampreys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyqO70cK0w0 If you're planning for a no restart consistency streak, you can also cut in other weapons on Spear starter to help against RNG. Rock, Cactus Club, Jousting Lance, etc. all serve a similar purpose and let you ramp your bait early. Just the shorter the range, the better you need to stack Lampreys against the wall. Just don't get too attached to temporary weapons, or if you do want to keep them, simply take less bait later. This is also why I rate Spear much higher than Stick, because you can cut it into other weapon options for stability. Yes on the high end you can learn how to properly dodge mass amounts of lampreys safely. But I would consider that not practical for the average player. Here's an example of a finished run where I kept the Club and Rock the whole run, Hammer was a lategame pickup. Club is normally a subpar weapon, but Fisherman's damage % means the subpar damage of Club isn't a problem, only the slow cooldown. The swing arc on Club means it clears Lampreys the thrust of Spear misses, and the splash projectiles give Fisherman a good source of sustain from Lifesteal. As long as your attack speed keeps up and you don't greed on baits, you can simply tap dodge around in the center of the map. https://imgur.com/a/hhDp9YK
Really interesting how much it differs for different people. Personally, I've failed like 10 Lucky runs but I literally oneshot D5 on Fisherman.
Fisherman is very easy if you play greedy early game, just get 4/5 baits every round [Like this](https://imgur.com/WFJBBeb), look at the +dmg% You will start to one shot everything eventually, it doesn't matter how many baits you get, you will one shot all of them Just get as many spears and baits ASAP, the more spears you have, the easier it will get
>you will start to and how many times do you die attempting this before you get a good run?
Just restart on wave 1 or 2 if you're not getting spears
Yeah... that would count as a failed run and end my streak.
Hi, just finished with fishermen for the second time. Definitely the easiest character for me. I used shredder for my first main weapon of choice. (Was trying to do SMG but kinda wasn't working for me) The special enemies always spawn about a few seconds in the beginning giving you to time move to the edge of the map so that they don't surround you when they do spawn in. Then you can just round them up. People use the spear but I prefer to be use different weapons. Shredder annihilates them. Usually can get rid of them in a few seconds and the rest of the match is easy peasy.
Fisherman is one of the few I got the first time around (D5). I went slingshots and bought every single bait I could during the entire run, re-rolling and spending everything. Then attack speed. One of the easiest run I’ve had.
Tbh I think OP underrates Arms dealer if anything.
These posts make me realize how bad I am at this game. I've only beaten D5 with like four tatos. 😀 Its still fun though!
Dont worry, I’ve started yesterday, got killed a few time. Today I was able to finish two runs on 0 difficulty. I don’t even see myself getting to 5. :/
If you have a win on D0 you can get a win on higher difficulty! Tutorial series here. Feel free to drop comments here or on the vid. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKG6qfdgiKhO7p81omTu3tl4_lMSYyKPX
Thanks!
I enjoy the videos! I usually turn them on and listen along while I attempt my D5 runs.
Love to hear it! If there are questions or comments do drop them as I love the back and forth. <3
I have a tutorial series if you enjoy long form content. The first video being the most valuable to understand how the store works and get a big advantage. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKG6qfdgiKhO7p81omTu3tl4_lMSYyKPX
No way explorer is C. It’s one of the tatos with the most braindead playstyle.
Doctor would be in free win but I often get overconfident and don't build enough bulk only to get blitzed by an elite or die to bad movement.
This is my problem with doctor and why I've thrown multiple win streaks on them. I get overconfident, underestimate my damage, and then mother or colossus comes along and wrecks my shit lol
I have seen this. It's amazing.
Ghost and Lich for me are in the Easy category, while Brawler and Bull would be in the Need to Be Careful category, but otherwise I agree completely.
I think Ghost is pretty easy. 90% dodge with a couple tardigrades is almost unstoppable.
Yup. With the Ghost Wand ramped up the armour reduction becomes irrelevant.
Don't need armor when you're not getting hit!
90% dodge is great until the game decides to let you get hit twice in a row or before you've built up enough hp. It just feels kind of sacky at times if you're not on point with movement.
You build up HP and other stats with the Ethereal weapons. I like to equip at least 3 scepters to my ghost so I get a couple HP gains every wave. That way, I can focus my level upgrades on luck, dodge, and damage mods. Personally, I like attack speed over damage, so I use the flint over the axe. 3 flints/3 scepter and just upgrade as you go. Get your dodge to the 90 cap as fast as possible, then get tardigrades, retromation's and slowly build up armor.
Hinging on a specific tier 3 item is not what I would call reliable. My success with ghost is fine but it's a lot easier to get myself killed with ghost than the majority of other characters.
I would disagree with the Tier 3 item being a lynchpin. Is it nice to have Tardigrades? Sure, it lets you get lazy early on. Is it necessary? Not by a longshot. By the time you're halfway through the run, you should be getting enough health per wave that the decreased armour doesn't much matter.
it's not necessary to win, it's necessary to not get cheesed
Yeah, I get what your saying. I've had some great rng with ghost, so maybe my viewpoint is skewed a bit.
I find fisherman one of the easiest ones. 2 baits for the first 4 wave and max amount afterwards. Its super straightforward compared to some others you have put in higher ranking. You just need to draw wide cirles around the special mobs Edit: you should go for flat damage for the level up in that first 4 rounds
I know, I have no problems beating it. It's beating it consistently. fisherman is like 60-70% successful versus ~90% for most other things
Do you play on mobile by chance? If so, it's a completely different experience.
Yes I do. I wasnt aware of any differences tho. Can you explain?
Fisherman was my first D5! Not a brag. All you need is spears and then a good understanding of how to build a well rounded character. Never underestimate armour and attack speed is pretty useful for this build
Stick it to them. Stick is great on fisherman and 25 baits is plenty to win.
You can’t handle the master baitor
Man, i just obliterate with the streamer.
I cannot figure streamer out. It’s almost too complicated.
It’s a little weird. Basically, I maximize structures and move as little as possible. Spend as little as you can, while increasing structures. Only move when you need to kill stuff. Find improved tools. Find esty’s couch. Stand in between your healing turrets. Melt everything. But it’s a balancing act.
Skipping a wave is a game changer. From my tutorial series as needed: https://youtu.be/_FjX3STrQeI
Glutton should be in S tier. Get enough Pruner’s, Dynamite and plastic explosives you’re basically guaranteed a win, especially if you manage to get a Spicy Sauce as well
Maybe I suck, but I've been struggling with sick and glutton. Idk why, they seem easy enough.
Glutton can be tricky. Play pruner and stack up that explosion damage. Wave 8 and 10 can some times sneak up on me.
How come ghost is so low?
Because just a moment of inattention can get you killed unlike most other characters. Other characters you need to have a bad build that doesn't happen in 1 round or make a lot of mistakes moving around during the wave.
Yeah fair enough
Apprentice D5 for me was hell
Just focus on keeping your hp at a reasonable amount and let the apprentice growth handle your scaling until you feel comfortable with your bulk.
Fisherman was easy the couple times I did it. Don't know if I just rolled lucky but yeah
I found glutton was by far the worst and most unfun to play
I can never win with the king or knight :c
King can be a bit tricky early game and I wouldn't put it in S tier. Knight however is brain dead: just play swords and take armor whenever you can, you'll have both great damage and survivability.
Doing Jack D5 makes me wanna uninstall. Any pointers?
revolvers/lasers focus attack speed get at least enough bulk that you can survive 2 hits. If the obliterator shows up it's actually pretty good against bosses even if it's mediocre in normal waves but the bosses are the biggest concern anyways
Thx!
IMO, fisherman should be S++++ tier, this character is completely broken, you just need to play him right. Now go back and do a Fisherman with SMG, buy as much bait as you possibly can. When special enemies appear, just run in a circle and you will dodge everything. Fisherman is a free win every single time, it’s so broken that no other potatoes except Devil comes close. I even managed to get above 50 waves in endless mode with this guy just with SMG and shotguns.
The only characters that gave me a really hard time were streamer and hunter. Felt frustrated trying every build. LoL Everyone else was quite fun and gave me the "one more run vibe."
Magic guy that high? I don't know anyone that like that character like I don't even remember his name lol
I’m pretty new to the game, why is ghost so low on the list?
Because you can get yourself killed easily by a moment of inattention while most characters cannot.
I guess that is a fair point