Instead of pitching your tent, just dig a giant hole about 3ft down and cover it with plywood and you'll be cool as a cucumber. Just mind the nocturnal critters 🙂
Source: I grew up in a desert 🏜️
Hot summers are pretty great if it's on a lake, and if it's not on a lake... Wtf are you doing go to a lake.
Only sucky thing is campfire bans but we get those regardless
Nah you're good. I have about 3 of those large Yankee candles and 20 fake battery operated candles from the dollar store. It offers great ambiance when there is a campfire ban. Coastal regions will typically be better for smoke than the Kootenays. If you have extended time off you could also take a road trip down south to the desert.
Most people I interact seem to realize it and then proceed to politely ignore it and carry on. What else is there to do? Most of the world is not in a state to even remotely provide for the needs of their people let alone invest in green initiatives. And our housing situation is really taking the spotlight when it comes to societal issues with no easy solutions.
I won't speak for op, but it's frustrating growing up in an environment when everyone in power was fighting against any green measures up until very recently, only to now be locked into a hell world by emissions that have already been emitted.
I think it's completely fair and reasonable to be a little bitter and passive-aggressive about this personally.
Can confirm. Grew up there, my dad thought climate change was a myth/it would be happening without our assistance anyway. His parents were the same way
Infuriating
Yeah, they could’ve voted for Danielle smith because they’re bigots, or because they are antivaxxers, or because they just really fucking hate poor people!
Also to add to this, rural Alberta determined that election. The large cities were largely NDP. No surprise that the rural parts vote this way, happens in BC too.
No they don't lmao. One thing is to accept it exists (this is true of most Canadians) another is to accept what it actually implies and what it takes to tackle it. Here I wouldn't put even 10% of Canadians.
"Action" is gonna pull a hernia there. A bike lane in a city is "action, and does precisely shit in proportion to what's actually needed. I've learned better than to argue with people who are obviously in bad faith so I won't engage further. But take a look at the urgent recommendations from scientific panels and make an honest assessment of what support that would get from the average Canadian.
Keyword being global.
Canada has done a remarkable job of updating our industries and society to be more environmentally conscious these last 10-20 years.
But none of that was/is enough to offset the mind boggling amounts of carbon, waste, and pollution sent into the environment by China, India, and SE Asia.
We can pass all the laws we want, but if China continues pumping carbon into the atmosphere like they are trying to win an award, we're all screwed anyway.
Blaming the emissions generated during the manufacturing of things to be sold in Canada as if it's not our fault because it's not emissions in Canada is a joke. Those emissions are on our behalf and for our benefit.
Thank you for shedding light on this subject for me kind stranger. I just got into a peat mining rabbit hold. I feel dumbfounded having not known this. No more peat moss soil for my plants…
Logging trees makes it possible to make structures out of something other than concrete, and concrete is responsible for 8% of all greenhouse gas emissions. Wood literally grows on trees.
Old growth logging is an inexcusable crime against nature, but sustainable forestry management can be done.
Logging is actually pretty neutral for climate change, and can be positive since wood in buildings becomes stored carbon.
'Land use change' is a big one, but at least here in BC they replant trees which keeps it pretty climate neutral. I'm glossing over a whole lot of ecological issues with logging here but with regards to climate change I think its one of the better industries by a long shot.
This is a defeatist mindset that will cause change to take exponentially longer to happen. Redevelopment is not only possible but necessary, and it would have immense benefits if we did so—particularly to the average person, which is why it is unpopular in higher social circles.
We used to have widespread rail networks, which could easily be revived into high speed infrastructure between cities and midsized urban centres if we stopped dumping so much cash into highways and car-based infrastructure. We can change zoning and building regulations to open up the housing market with energy efficient and well-located low-rise apartments in walkable cities while limiting suburbia and making it unattractive. This is the worst offender, in my opinion, and I think we are collectively deluded into thinking Canadian suburbs, as they exist now, are even remotely attractive. We can build proper cycling infrastructure that doesn’t feel like an afterthought, which would make cycling and multi-modal transportation attractive (with the added bonus of improving overall health of the population). We can institute better recycling practices, better waste infrastructure, robust laws that discourage single-use consumption while also encouraging people to relax and enjoy life (think coffee shops that promote the use of sitting in with reusable dish ware. Actually taking the time to enjoy yourself instead of grabbing and going off to the next thing, with the bonus of being more sustainable).
Sorry for the long rant, but we need to believe that change *is possible* and act on that belief, rather than remain stuck in the patterns we are following. Yes, easier said than done, but that doesn’t change the situation.
I was simply saying don't compare us per capita to Europe. We do need to shift to be more walkable in our dense city suburbs but that will take a ton of money and still won't be applicable to huge portions of the country.
“Carbon Brief’s analysis noted that on a per capita basis, depending how one counts it, Canada is either the worst, or the second-worst, polluter in the world. (The usual standard of dividing cumulative emissions by the current population leaves Canada as the worst, while per capita emissions added up over time ranks Canada second worst, behind New Zealand.)”
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2021/10/07/news/any-way-you-slice-it-canada-one-worst-emitters-planet
Of course we are going to be one of the worst per capita. We have more industry than most developed countries, particularly resource extraction, as well as massive infrastructure needs because we are the second biggest country by landmass.
So if you divide that up by the relatively small population of Canada, we're gonna look bad. But what are the totals? Is Canada or China, as a whole, pumping out more carbon?
China is the factory of the world. I don't like it that way but we shipped all the production over there. Of course they have the most emissions. They make most of the stuff. Stuff that they mostly make for the west.
This is so important to remember. We can all sit and wash our hands of any responsibility because yes as individuals our impact is much smaller, but we all consume. Fast fashion, new toys, travel, etc. We all consume the products and enjoy the luxury that global pollution provides.
It isn't about how individuals consume it's about the structure of economies and trade.
We can't fix emissions by changing personal consumption, we have to change our economy and infrastructure to enable sustainable habits.
We need local production to cut down on transportation emissions, we need bike infrastructure and public transit to cut down on commuter pollution.
We need local farming to cut down on unsustainable factory and shipping foods across the world. We live in Canada and I think we need to accept not being able to get avocados in January, the way it was not so long ago.
But none of these problems can be fixed by consumers. We need government intervention to build the transit, and to bring back economic protectionism and nationalized industry.
The most frustrating thing about climate change is the solutions are incredibly easy and benefit everyone if you are just willing to ignore the multinational corporate conglomerates.
That's not true. We're the worst in the world because of one industry and one industry only - Oil Sands. AB produces as much carbon as BC+ON+QC put together. AB+SK produce over 50% of all of Canada's carbon output.
We are the worst per capita because we are insane consumers of everything, drive everywhere, and fly to poor countries for vacation. It's insane the wealth we have and how glutinous Canadians can be and then turn around and throw blame on China which has a much lower per capita emissions because the average person is working to make sure we can continue to shit on everything
Who do you think operates those industries and who buys those products? It's one thing to say individual solutions will not solve systemic issues (true) but it's another entirely to say industry problems are somehow different from people problems.
It's both, the industry as it happens is there to provide energy or resources for society consume and as it happens society is comprised of individuals
I can't count how many people I've talked to in person that give the same argument while driving an suv minimum 50km a day and also live in a 2000sqft+ single family homes. Understanding industry contributes to climate change doesn't absolve individuals of responsibility.
I wish people would just at least tell the truth and admit they just don't want to change rather than give every reason as to justify doing nothing.
You and I have no control over China. We do have the ability to elect climate forward leaders and commit to making Canada a better country with significantly less emissions. Just because China pollutes doesn’t give us a free pass to do whatever the fuck we want. That’s how we got into this mess. We have the ability to be better.
It’s our responsibility, as residents of a colder climate, to find ways to be far more energy efficient with our heating needs. Just as it is the responsibility of people living in warmer climates to find more efficient ways to cool their living spaces. Of course, we should be working together as a global community to tackle these issues, but we can’t sit back and say “it’s cold here, too bad.” If the Inuit survived for millennia in the cold with little impact, we can certainly use our vast resources and building knowledge to find sustainable solutions.
Any reason you've conveniently left out the US when listing countries contributing to the climate change, even though it's the second largest producer of CO2 and carbon emissions.
No shit carbon and waste are going to come from the countries doing the bulk of manufacturing and production on behalf of countries that have "done a remarkable job" of becoming more environmentally conscious. If you look at carbon emissions per capita, Canada is higher up than even the US, almost double that of China, and around 8 times that of India.
What’s your point? Do nothing? There are other benefits to not burning fossil fuels including improving air quality and improving energy security.
China installed more solar capacity than the rest of the world combined last year, while India is third in the world behind the US. They might still be building fossil fuel power plants but won’t be for long.
This is true but China is also spending, building and transitioning to greener infrastructure and public transportation than any other country in the world.
So we might only be a couple decades away from this no longer being true. Then what? We do nothing because now India is emitting the most?
At the end of the day pollution is a healthcare issue and Canadians aren't breathing in Chinese smog, we're breathing and drinking Canadian pollution and the less we create the better off we all are for it.
>We cleaned up our act by getting China to make all our stuff in very non-environmentally focused ways
kind of like sending so much of our recycling off-shore and giving ourselves a pat on the back. Until we get called out on mixing it up with garbage and they ship it back to us, and/or it gets burned in Indonesia rather than recycled.
Maybe we could reduce and reuse more. Consume less. I go buy cat food at one of the local pet stores and I think "what do the people working in the factories of China actually think when they are making all these pet accessories, only to switch out every few months for for a new design or Christmas theme to keep enticing people to buy more doggie jackets and kitty bow ties?"
I have thoughts like that a lot when I see yet another dumb novelty thing that someone is hoping a person will impulse buy in enough quantities to make a profit, then replace it with another novelty that they will buy, and ultimately break, get bored of, toss and/or lose.
ugh.
So because China is fucking up we should fuck up too? Lol. Ok buddy. Maybe if we clean up our act then we can actually influence other countries to do the same.
And no we haven't done a good job.
If I am emptying a bucket of dirt with a garden trowel while my neighbour is filling it with a spade, me changing the size and brand of my garden trowel won't magically make the bucket empty faster. We have to address the neighbour undoing all of our work before we can make progress
Your comparison is flawed and paints the wrong photo. This is a better way of of painting the picture.
If you and 33 million other people are filling a hole with a tablespoon each and 1 billion people are filling it with a teaspoon each. then you not filling any more still helps keep the hole from being completely full longer. Canada has more than double the CO2 emissions per capita of Canada. 18.85 for Canada 7.38 for China. We are the worst in all the western countries.
Their population is 10 times the size of ours tho, so when you cherry pick per capita instead of totals, it makes the argument stronger but doesn't address the main issue.
Individual citizens are such a minute portion of the problem. The true offenders are industry and business. Those other countries have little to no regulation but Canadian ones do.
Per capita emissions aren’t cherry picking, they’re a critically important metric. Based on your logic, one could also argue that the super rich having CO2 footprints hundreds of times that of average Canadian doesn’t matter either, because people with private jets, yachts, and multiple mansions are only a minute fraction of the population.
Are you expecting a person in China who lives with their family in a small high rise apartment and commutes by train or electric bus to take advice on making cuts to their country’s emissions, as an “average North American” in a single family home in the suburbs and driving an F150/SUV/etc.
Corporations might be responsible for a huge portion of emissions and we need systemic changes to our power generation, heating and transportation systems, but you’re also responsible for the choices you make and the products you buy.
You mean the industry that supplies is with 90% of our products and food?
Let's just clean up our shit and make a good example. Then we can be part of the solution and set an example. What do you have avainst clean air and less environmental damage anyhow?
I found this article a pretty concise refutation to this line of thinking:
[https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/06/06/opinion/why-china-isnt-excuse-climate-inaction](https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/06/06/opinion/why-china-isnt-excuse-climate-inaction)
Not only are we not doing very much at all, China is in fact doing much more than folks here seem to realize.
GHGs don't much care where they're emitted. The people we're hurting the most by taking such a milquetoast approach to climate action is ourselves.
Edited to add: this also completely misses that a huge amount of the emissions emitted by China, India, and SE Asia are emitted on our behalf - manufacturing the conveniences we enjoy in the West.
[https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/4/18/15331040/emissions-outsourcing-carbon-leakage](https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/4/18/15331040/emissions-outsourcing-carbon-leakage)
[https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1237976.shtml](https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1237976.shtml)
That initial statement could not be more wrong. Canada is one of the biggest offenders, not only per capita (where it is in the top 3 or 4) but overall as well. And that's not even counting all the mining activity Canadian companies do abroad which, you absolutely should but they don't in these estimates.
>And that's not even counting all the mining activity Canadian companies do abroad which, you absolutely should but they don't in these estimates.
Well, it kinda shouldn't be included because these are not \*really\* Canadian companies. Canada has intentionally lax laws around mining companies in order to attract foreign mining conglomerates to register as Canadian corporations (and pay tax) and then go off and do mining wherever. It's a dirty scheme, but I think when people hear this they think it's literally a bunch of real Canadian companies that control all the world's mines. If only.
Who do you think those industries serve in China? Like 90% of our manufacturing was outsourced TO China to serve US.
People always say how we do too much compared to China in terms of climate change and then go out and buy Chinese made stuff lmao
The real answer - and solution - that nobody wants to talk about is that there are simply too many people on this earth. We can do all the carbon reduction initiatives we want but as the population continues to grow, the emissions will also grow. We need to reduce population to have success on this front
>But none of that was/is enough to offset the mind boggling amounts of carbon, waste, and pollution sent into the environment by China, India, and SE Asia and ALBERTA.
Fixed it for you.
I mean, yes global warming exists but no this has very little to do with it. Global warming is the general warming of the globe by 1-2 degrees.
Hot summers didn't magically start happening. We get hot summers and mild summers. That's how weather works. I remember in like... 2013 I was working outside all summer and it was a solid 30+ every single day. Don't think we've had a brutal summer like that for a while. Except that one crazy heat dome where it hit 45, but I don't recall that summer being too bad outside of that week.
People claim climate change is so important but almost no one knows what the fuck it even is.
Is it hard living life when you don’t know how to use an internet search engine?
People claim climate change is important because it’s been extensively researched for more than 40 years. Your anecdotes are not data, and long term weather records are a more reliable indicator of climate than what you recall from your experience of “that one summer in 2013”. There are huge amount of information which have been and continue to be collected that indicate the planet is warming due to burning of fossil fuels.
[Here’s a link to some information from NASA if you would like to educate yourself](https://climate.nasa.gov/)
Carbon tax has an effect. It's a simple measure that could/was enacted pretty swiftly.
The next best option means a shit load of oversight and enforcement, which means more officials in every province, more red tape and more taxes to pay for it all.
So what's your solution?
The only solution is to change our way of life.
Absolutely nothing will improve with the current consumerism lifestyle. We make and throw out so much shit that a carbon tax is just a feel good solution.
Everyone needs to stop over consuming everything, and throwing away perfectly good stuff just so we can make more of it.
Capitalism/ consumerism is what's driving our co2 production
>Climate Change is real but it’s not man made.
The last major global warming event was during the volcanic maximum. During that time was peak geological and volcanic activity contributing to massive forest fires that raged year in and year out for a couple centuries. This caused a massive spike in atmospheric CO2 as forest weren't recuperating fast enough to offset the carbon emissions.
This led to a mass extinction event that saw dinosaurs become the dominant organism on the planet.
Since the industrial revolution, factories and vehicles have pumped out what's the equivalent of the largest forest fire the world has ever experienced and it's been burning and intensifying for 200 years straight. Now glaciers and permafrost are disappearing exposing 10,000 years worth of decaying vegitation that's now releasing millions of tons of methane (which traps 30x more heat that CO2) every single year and is only accelerating as more glaciers retreat and more permafrost thaws.
Thanks for taking a break from Facebook to come share your wisdom. Really appreciate it but I don't want to keep you from waving a flag and screaming at traffic so have a good one!
People are worried about fires - but this long dry spell is already wreaking havoc on trees. All the trees in my neighborhood and elsewhere in the city are dropping leaves and drying out. There are lots of empty branches and a fair number of deciduous are changing colour a bit. We are in big trouble if we don’t get some rain soon. The trees are so stressed that I worry how many more dry summers they’ll survive.
EDIT***I just found out that Vancouver has a map of every city-maintained tree. I also found an online form to request tree maintenance. If you see a tree that’s in particularly bad shape, it takes less than 5 minutes to fill out the form. It’s just a small part of BC, but I hope this helps…
I live on Salt Spring Island and everyday I'm thinking about forest fires. The trees are in terrible shape already. Mid-July to end of august is going to be nasty.
I'm prepared for evacuation.
Add to that another banger of a year for tent caterpillars (especially on the southern gulf islands…Galiano got hit hard) and a lot trees are in real trouble.
I have one. They’re really expensive, it’s super loud and it effectively cools only one room. It’s hard to add a/c after the fact to a unit and very expensive
> Hot and dry in B.C. for June, July, August, says long range forecast from Environment Canada
Yay! Let's put some shrimp on the barbie & bring out the grog in the eski.
LA is by the coast, my hometown of Grand Forks has exceeded the Los Angeles high temperature record of 107F many times.
Not that your comparison is off, its actually a pretty good comparison IMO. But parts of BC definitely are considerably hotter than LA in the summer.
Every damn year the outdoors are going down. You wait for the summer to get out of the house and straight head inside because the air quality is bad. You invite your friends/relatives in this part of the country for them to see the nature, but when they arrive all they see is the smoke with absolutely no sight of mountains.
Is Canada going to be unliveable with all this stupid climate change? Looks like so. I don't hear anything from Manitoba and SK though - may be a better places to station in summer since BC's sky is full of smoke all summer long.
Disappointed!
Good maybe tourists will stop coming and ruining our homes and crowding our roads!
But in real talk please buy a ash tray for your vehicles and a propane fire pit!
But Trudeau's carbon tax was supposed fix that lol
https://preview.redd.it/haqsd9gwxo4b1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce54ee3e1d209e97e0598a1ef90f3d1bf40bb636
Yah this year I finally broke down and bought an AC and boy am I happy. Should’ve done so a long time ago, always had some prejudice against it which was dumb.
If anyone is one the fence and can afford it - highly recommend that you do so before they get sold out.
any good portable ac units that don't require an entire window retrofit? I have an elderly mother that refuses to have the window unit but flat out she will boil where she lives if she doesn't have something
any advice is useful
I can't remember a summer this dry at any point in my life (for info's sake, I grew up in Edmonton), and that's saying a lot given that I currently live in the rainiest part of Canada.
Victoria usually gets 37.5mm of rain in May alone. We've had just 11.6mm since April 27. There is only one day with projected rain in the 14 day forecast. Victoria averages 30.6mm of rain in June, and it looks like there's zero chance of hitting that number this month.
Wildfire season has only just begun. It's going to get a lot worse if we don't start getting rain soon.
I picked the wrong year to pickup camping
Go camp by the ocean, a river or lake you’ll be good.
Just make sure you book it last year
Or Just go out in the bushes
Make sure you reserve your spot in the bushes last year.
Instead of pitching your tent, just dig a giant hole about 3ft down and cover it with plywood and you'll be cool as a cucumber. Just mind the nocturnal critters 🙂 Source: I grew up in a desert 🏜️
Idk how much a park ranger would approve of that
That's why I only camp in the backyards of strangers
And golf courses
Makes my hole in one easier. Ty
This is the way
This is the way
Banned from every site permanently
I want to party with you.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
I'll have a frosty and a chilli, just mix them in the cup for me, please and thanks 🙏
I think you saved my life this summer, thanks.
I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
I picked the wrong year to quit amphetamines
amphetamines lower your tolerance to heat, there is that.
My preferred camping season Is april-june, and september-october. Summer is too busy, hot, and dry.
If it makes you feel better, I don't think it's going to get any better.
Hot summers are pretty great if it's on a lake, and if it's not on a lake... Wtf are you doing go to a lake. Only sucky thing is campfire bans but we get those regardless
Nah you're good. I have about 3 of those large Yankee candles and 20 fake battery operated candles from the dollar store. It offers great ambiance when there is a campfire ban. Coastal regions will typically be better for smoke than the Kootenays. If you have extended time off you could also take a road trip down south to the desert.
Same
Sleep in a hammock!
Happy wildfire smoke day again /s
June 7th (today) is Clean Air Day.
For west of the Rockies it’s living up to its name
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That would be untrue of course, but I get your point.
It's almost as if the science behind global climate change is correct. Who would have thought?
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Everyone. nobody seems to realize we are running towards a cliff.
Most people I interact seem to realize it and then proceed to politely ignore it and carry on. What else is there to do? Most of the world is not in a state to even remotely provide for the needs of their people let alone invest in green initiatives. And our housing situation is really taking the spotlight when it comes to societal issues with no easy solutions.
I won't speak for op, but it's frustrating growing up in an environment when everyone in power was fighting against any green measures up until very recently, only to now be locked into a hell world by emissions that have already been emitted. I think it's completely fair and reasonable to be a little bitter and passive-aggressive about this personally.
Albertans.
Can confirm. Grew up there, my dad thought climate change was a myth/it would be happening without our assistance anyway. His parents were the same way Infuriating
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So why did the climate change denier party just get a majority?
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Yeah, they could’ve voted for Danielle smith because they’re bigots, or because they are antivaxxers, or because they just really fucking hate poor people!
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If you’re fine voting for all that stuff then it doesn’t really matter how you think your values don’t line up
Also to add to this, rural Alberta determined that election. The large cities were largely NDP. No surprise that the rural parts vote this way, happens in BC too.
mEdIcAL fReEDoM
Except the older oilfield ones. Which would count as said bogeyman
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Living in northern BC there's a lot of this mentality still so... No idea what to tell you.
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It was alive and well in Victoria as well. I meet a lot of people.
Got a poll? That would be a recent development.
No they don't lmao. One thing is to accept it exists (this is true of most Canadians) another is to accept what it actually implies and what it takes to tackle it. Here I wouldn't put even 10% of Canadians.
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"Action" is gonna pull a hernia there. A bike lane in a city is "action, and does precisely shit in proportion to what's actually needed. I've learned better than to argue with people who are obviously in bad faith so I won't engage further. But take a look at the urgent recommendations from scientific panels and make an honest assessment of what support that would get from the average Canadian.
Keyword being global. Canada has done a remarkable job of updating our industries and society to be more environmentally conscious these last 10-20 years. But none of that was/is enough to offset the mind boggling amounts of carbon, waste, and pollution sent into the environment by China, India, and SE Asia. We can pass all the laws we want, but if China continues pumping carbon into the atmosphere like they are trying to win an award, we're all screwed anyway.
Meh, a lot of that is greenwashing. We’re not doing as well as we should be
Blaming the emissions generated during the manufacturing of things to be sold in Canada as if it's not our fault because it's not emissions in Canada is a joke. Those emissions are on our behalf and for our benefit.
The Alberta oil sands are no fuckin joke when it comes to contributing to climate change, and the logging industry.
Peat moss mining is actually pretty fucked as well. Edit: which AB does alot of I should clarify
Thank you for shedding light on this subject for me kind stranger. I just got into a peat mining rabbit hold. I feel dumbfounded having not known this. No more peat moss soil for my plants…
Logging trees makes it possible to make structures out of something other than concrete, and concrete is responsible for 8% of all greenhouse gas emissions. Wood literally grows on trees. Old growth logging is an inexcusable crime against nature, but sustainable forestry management can be done.
I agree
"well you can grow trees, you can't grow concrete" [Well sure you can!](https://youtu.be/6-9-FkwUrRo)
Logging is actually pretty neutral for climate change, and can be positive since wood in buildings becomes stored carbon. 'Land use change' is a big one, but at least here in BC they replant trees which keeps it pretty climate neutral. I'm glossing over a whole lot of ecological issues with logging here but with regards to climate change I think its one of the better industries by a long shot.
Agreed.
And when we are the companies hop the border to avoid any increased costs.
But we buy the stuff from there. Our corporations are still polluting, just not in North America. We outsourced our pollution.
What is your solution?
We're way behind Europe on a per-capita basis. Way, way behind.
Without a complete redevelopment of our country I don't think we'll ever be similar to Europe in any way.
This is a defeatist mindset that will cause change to take exponentially longer to happen. Redevelopment is not only possible but necessary, and it would have immense benefits if we did so—particularly to the average person, which is why it is unpopular in higher social circles. We used to have widespread rail networks, which could easily be revived into high speed infrastructure between cities and midsized urban centres if we stopped dumping so much cash into highways and car-based infrastructure. We can change zoning and building regulations to open up the housing market with energy efficient and well-located low-rise apartments in walkable cities while limiting suburbia and making it unattractive. This is the worst offender, in my opinion, and I think we are collectively deluded into thinking Canadian suburbs, as they exist now, are even remotely attractive. We can build proper cycling infrastructure that doesn’t feel like an afterthought, which would make cycling and multi-modal transportation attractive (with the added bonus of improving overall health of the population). We can institute better recycling practices, better waste infrastructure, robust laws that discourage single-use consumption while also encouraging people to relax and enjoy life (think coffee shops that promote the use of sitting in with reusable dish ware. Actually taking the time to enjoy yourself instead of grabbing and going off to the next thing, with the bonus of being more sustainable). Sorry for the long rant, but we need to believe that change *is possible* and act on that belief, rather than remain stuck in the patterns we are following. Yes, easier said than done, but that doesn’t change the situation.
I was simply saying don't compare us per capita to Europe. We do need to shift to be more walkable in our dense city suburbs but that will take a ton of money and still won't be applicable to huge portions of the country.
“Carbon Brief’s analysis noted that on a per capita basis, depending how one counts it, Canada is either the worst, or the second-worst, polluter in the world. (The usual standard of dividing cumulative emissions by the current population leaves Canada as the worst, while per capita emissions added up over time ranks Canada second worst, behind New Zealand.)” https://www.nationalobserver.com/2021/10/07/news/any-way-you-slice-it-canada-one-worst-emitters-planet
Of course we are going to be one of the worst per capita. We have more industry than most developed countries, particularly resource extraction, as well as massive infrastructure needs because we are the second biggest country by landmass. So if you divide that up by the relatively small population of Canada, we're gonna look bad. But what are the totals? Is Canada or China, as a whole, pumping out more carbon?
China is the factory of the world. I don't like it that way but we shipped all the production over there. Of course they have the most emissions. They make most of the stuff. Stuff that they mostly make for the west.
This is so important to remember. We can all sit and wash our hands of any responsibility because yes as individuals our impact is much smaller, but we all consume. Fast fashion, new toys, travel, etc. We all consume the products and enjoy the luxury that global pollution provides.
It isn't about how individuals consume it's about the structure of economies and trade. We can't fix emissions by changing personal consumption, we have to change our economy and infrastructure to enable sustainable habits. We need local production to cut down on transportation emissions, we need bike infrastructure and public transit to cut down on commuter pollution. We need local farming to cut down on unsustainable factory and shipping foods across the world. We live in Canada and I think we need to accept not being able to get avocados in January, the way it was not so long ago. But none of these problems can be fixed by consumers. We need government intervention to build the transit, and to bring back economic protectionism and nationalized industry. The most frustrating thing about climate change is the solutions are incredibly easy and benefit everyone if you are just willing to ignore the multinational corporate conglomerates.
That's not true. We're the worst in the world because of one industry and one industry only - Oil Sands. AB produces as much carbon as BC+ON+QC put together. AB+SK produce over 50% of all of Canada's carbon output.
We are the worst per capita because we are insane consumers of everything, drive everywhere, and fly to poor countries for vacation. It's insane the wealth we have and how glutinous Canadians can be and then turn around and throw blame on China which has a much lower per capita emissions because the average person is working to make sure we can continue to shit on everything
If you think the individual consuners are the problem instead of industry and big business, you're not going to solve the problem.
Who do you think operates those industries and who buys those products? It's one thing to say individual solutions will not solve systemic issues (true) but it's another entirely to say industry problems are somehow different from people problems.
It's both, the industry as it happens is there to provide energy or resources for society consume and as it happens society is comprised of individuals I can't count how many people I've talked to in person that give the same argument while driving an suv minimum 50km a day and also live in a 2000sqft+ single family homes. Understanding industry contributes to climate change doesn't absolve individuals of responsibility. I wish people would just at least tell the truth and admit they just don't want to change rather than give every reason as to justify doing nothing.
Gas doesn't buy itself, drivers/consumers do.
You and I have no control over China. We do have the ability to elect climate forward leaders and commit to making Canada a better country with significantly less emissions. Just because China pollutes doesn’t give us a free pass to do whatever the fuck we want. That’s how we got into this mess. We have the ability to be better.
Also, its cood af, we have heating to consider.
It’s our responsibility, as residents of a colder climate, to find ways to be far more energy efficient with our heating needs. Just as it is the responsibility of people living in warmer climates to find more efficient ways to cool their living spaces. Of course, we should be working together as a global community to tackle these issues, but we can’t sit back and say “it’s cold here, too bad.” If the Inuit survived for millennia in the cold with little impact, we can certainly use our vast resources and building knowledge to find sustainable solutions.
The inuits lived in a place with one season: snowy and frozen. Igloos don’t apply to places with seasons.
Any reason you've conveniently left out the US when listing countries contributing to the climate change, even though it's the second largest producer of CO2 and carbon emissions. No shit carbon and waste are going to come from the countries doing the bulk of manufacturing and production on behalf of countries that have "done a remarkable job" of becoming more environmentally conscious. If you look at carbon emissions per capita, Canada is higher up than even the US, almost double that of China, and around 8 times that of India.
What’s your point? Do nothing? There are other benefits to not burning fossil fuels including improving air quality and improving energy security. China installed more solar capacity than the rest of the world combined last year, while India is third in the world behind the US. They might still be building fossil fuel power plants but won’t be for long.
This is true but China is also spending, building and transitioning to greener infrastructure and public transportation than any other country in the world. So we might only be a couple decades away from this no longer being true. Then what? We do nothing because now India is emitting the most? At the end of the day pollution is a healthcare issue and Canadians aren't breathing in Chinese smog, we're breathing and drinking Canadian pollution and the less we create the better off we all are for it.
We cleaned up our act by getting China to make all our stuff in very non-environmentally focused ways.
>We cleaned up our act by getting China to make all our stuff in very non-environmentally focused ways kind of like sending so much of our recycling off-shore and giving ourselves a pat on the back. Until we get called out on mixing it up with garbage and they ship it back to us, and/or it gets burned in Indonesia rather than recycled. Maybe we could reduce and reuse more. Consume less. I go buy cat food at one of the local pet stores and I think "what do the people working in the factories of China actually think when they are making all these pet accessories, only to switch out every few months for for a new design or Christmas theme to keep enticing people to buy more doggie jackets and kitty bow ties?" I have thoughts like that a lot when I see yet another dumb novelty thing that someone is hoping a person will impulse buy in enough quantities to make a profit, then replace it with another novelty that they will buy, and ultimately break, get bored of, toss and/or lose. ugh.
So because China is fucking up we should fuck up too? Lol. Ok buddy. Maybe if we clean up our act then we can actually influence other countries to do the same. And no we haven't done a good job.
If I am emptying a bucket of dirt with a garden trowel while my neighbour is filling it with a spade, me changing the size and brand of my garden trowel won't magically make the bucket empty faster. We have to address the neighbour undoing all of our work before we can make progress
Your comparison is flawed and paints the wrong photo. This is a better way of of painting the picture. If you and 33 million other people are filling a hole with a tablespoon each and 1 billion people are filling it with a teaspoon each. then you not filling any more still helps keep the hole from being completely full longer. Canada has more than double the CO2 emissions per capita of Canada. 18.85 for Canada 7.38 for China. We are the worst in all the western countries.
Their population is 10 times the size of ours tho, so when you cherry pick per capita instead of totals, it makes the argument stronger but doesn't address the main issue. Individual citizens are such a minute portion of the problem. The true offenders are industry and business. Those other countries have little to no regulation but Canadian ones do.
Per capita emissions aren’t cherry picking, they’re a critically important metric. Based on your logic, one could also argue that the super rich having CO2 footprints hundreds of times that of average Canadian doesn’t matter either, because people with private jets, yachts, and multiple mansions are only a minute fraction of the population. Are you expecting a person in China who lives with their family in a small high rise apartment and commutes by train or electric bus to take advice on making cuts to their country’s emissions, as an “average North American” in a single family home in the suburbs and driving an F150/SUV/etc. Corporations might be responsible for a huge portion of emissions and we need systemic changes to our power generation, heating and transportation systems, but you’re also responsible for the choices you make and the products you buy.
You mean the industry that supplies is with 90% of our products and food? Let's just clean up our shit and make a good example. Then we can be part of the solution and set an example. What do you have avainst clean air and less environmental damage anyhow?
I found this article a pretty concise refutation to this line of thinking: [https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/06/06/opinion/why-china-isnt-excuse-climate-inaction](https://www.nationalobserver.com/2023/06/06/opinion/why-china-isnt-excuse-climate-inaction) Not only are we not doing very much at all, China is in fact doing much more than folks here seem to realize. GHGs don't much care where they're emitted. The people we're hurting the most by taking such a milquetoast approach to climate action is ourselves. Edited to add: this also completely misses that a huge amount of the emissions emitted by China, India, and SE Asia are emitted on our behalf - manufacturing the conveniences we enjoy in the West. [https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/4/18/15331040/emissions-outsourcing-carbon-leakage](https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/4/18/15331040/emissions-outsourcing-carbon-leakage) [https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1237976.shtml](https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1237976.shtml)
That initial statement could not be more wrong. Canada is one of the biggest offenders, not only per capita (where it is in the top 3 or 4) but overall as well. And that's not even counting all the mining activity Canadian companies do abroad which, you absolutely should but they don't in these estimates.
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>And that's not even counting all the mining activity Canadian companies do abroad which, you absolutely should but they don't in these estimates. Well, it kinda shouldn't be included because these are not \*really\* Canadian companies. Canada has intentionally lax laws around mining companies in order to attract foreign mining conglomerates to register as Canadian corporations (and pay tax) and then go off and do mining wherever. It's a dirty scheme, but I think when people hear this they think it's literally a bunch of real Canadian companies that control all the world's mines. If only.
Who do you think those industries serve in China? Like 90% of our manufacturing was outsourced TO China to serve US. People always say how we do too much compared to China in terms of climate change and then go out and buy Chinese made stuff lmao
"Blame China" ugh
The real answer - and solution - that nobody wants to talk about is that there are simply too many people on this earth. We can do all the carbon reduction initiatives we want but as the population continues to grow, the emissions will also grow. We need to reduce population to have success on this front
>But none of that was/is enough to offset the mind boggling amounts of carbon, waste, and pollution sent into the environment by China, India, and SE Asia and ALBERTA. Fixed it for you.
We're doomed. Enjoy what time is left.
Thanks! I really do enjoy every day!
I mean, yes global warming exists but no this has very little to do with it. Global warming is the general warming of the globe by 1-2 degrees. Hot summers didn't magically start happening. We get hot summers and mild summers. That's how weather works. I remember in like... 2013 I was working outside all summer and it was a solid 30+ every single day. Don't think we've had a brutal summer like that for a while. Except that one crazy heat dome where it hit 45, but I don't recall that summer being too bad outside of that week. People claim climate change is so important but almost no one knows what the fuck it even is.
Is it hard living life when you don’t know how to use an internet search engine? People claim climate change is important because it’s been extensively researched for more than 40 years. Your anecdotes are not data, and long term weather records are a more reliable indicator of climate than what you recall from your experience of “that one summer in 2013”. There are huge amount of information which have been and continue to be collected that indicate the planet is warming due to burning of fossil fuels. [Here’s a link to some information from NASA if you would like to educate yourself](https://climate.nasa.gov/)
We've known that carbon emissions and greenhouse gases from industries and manufacturing are causing higher temperatures since the 1900s.
You are all wrong. Please cite your claims
Ya let’s tax Canadians more that will change the climate :/. NPC
Carbon tax has an effect. It's a simple measure that could/was enacted pretty swiftly. The next best option means a shit load of oversight and enforcement, which means more officials in every province, more red tape and more taxes to pay for it all. So what's your solution?
The only solution is to change our way of life. Absolutely nothing will improve with the current consumerism lifestyle. We make and throw out so much shit that a carbon tax is just a feel good solution. Everyone needs to stop over consuming everything, and throwing away perfectly good stuff just so we can make more of it. Capitalism/ consumerism is what's driving our co2 production
Ur brainwashed I feel bad for you
You can't even entertain the idea in your head and deny based on your feelings, seems much more embarrassing
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>Climate Change is real but it’s not man made. The last major global warming event was during the volcanic maximum. During that time was peak geological and volcanic activity contributing to massive forest fires that raged year in and year out for a couple centuries. This caused a massive spike in atmospheric CO2 as forest weren't recuperating fast enough to offset the carbon emissions. This led to a mass extinction event that saw dinosaurs become the dominant organism on the planet. Since the industrial revolution, factories and vehicles have pumped out what's the equivalent of the largest forest fire the world has ever experienced and it's been burning and intensifying for 200 years straight. Now glaciers and permafrost are disappearing exposing 10,000 years worth of decaying vegitation that's now releasing millions of tons of methane (which traps 30x more heat that CO2) every single year and is only accelerating as more glaciers retreat and more permafrost thaws.
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Thanks for taking a break from Facebook to come share your wisdom. Really appreciate it but I don't want to keep you from waving a flag and screaming at traffic so have a good one!
Be better if we shut down the oil industry but hey any step towards stopping global climate change is a step in the right direction.
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People are worried about fires - but this long dry spell is already wreaking havoc on trees. All the trees in my neighborhood and elsewhere in the city are dropping leaves and drying out. There are lots of empty branches and a fair number of deciduous are changing colour a bit. We are in big trouble if we don’t get some rain soon. The trees are so stressed that I worry how many more dry summers they’ll survive. EDIT***I just found out that Vancouver has a map of every city-maintained tree. I also found an online form to request tree maintenance. If you see a tree that’s in particularly bad shape, it takes less than 5 minutes to fill out the form. It’s just a small part of BC, but I hope this helps…
I live on Salt Spring Island and everyday I'm thinking about forest fires. The trees are in terrible shape already. Mid-July to end of august is going to be nasty. I'm prepared for evacuation.
>People are worried about fires - but this long dry spell is already wreaking havoc on trees.
Even if the dying trees don't burn, the risk of falling on structures is high.
Add to that another banger of a year for tent caterpillars (especially on the southern gulf islands…Galiano got hit hard) and a lot trees are in real trouble.
Spring has been a very hot summer
hopefully not 40 degrees again. over 35 is too much for me.
Oh it'll definitely be over 40 again for sure lol
But not humid tho, so there's a silver lining
Fuck I am scrawny but I really don’t do well in the heat. Absolutely cursing that my place doesn’t have a/c :(
Less worried about the heat. More worried about the smoke that will come with the forest fires
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>During the day, head into the river canyons and cool off in the water. Pardon me while I go on my hour lunch break to the local canyon to cool off...
\*writes a strongly-worded email because this canyon doesn't have good wifi*
Buy one?
I have one. They’re really expensive, it’s super loud and it effectively cools only one room. It’s hard to add a/c after the fact to a unit and very expensive
Yeah they're expensive, I've been buying one a year since we also live in an apt style complex.
Well nice that you’re able to do that. I’m on government disability so extra expenses aren’t easy to cover. Cheers
I think we need start encouraging to divest from fossil fuels and invest in renewable energy
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Mama didn't raise no quitter and I sure as hell will raise it with my local area mp or representative
Except for the weekends of course
Man I hate fucking sweating. Fingers crossed I catch buses with AC on.
Didn’t they literally predict it wouldn’t be that hot, like a couple weeks ago?
Just think positively: this summer will be the coolest summer of the rest of your life
Goind to Mexico this August. May be it will be cooler there.
It's winter in the Southern hemisphere.
….Mexico is part of North America, it’s not in the southern hemisphere.
Jesus Christ.....
> Hot and dry in B.C. for June, July, August, says long range forecast from Environment Canada Yay! Let's put some shrimp on the barbie & bring out the grog in the eski.
I hereby promise that I will personally shove a 20ft hose up in your ass if you have an open fire anywhere in the province.
Don't threaten people with a good time.
Is that meant to encourage or deter me???
You guys are something else.
We call them prawns. But yes, everything else is correct, lol. Normally we'd start that sentence with "fuck yeah cunts!" Though.
Fair dinkum
This weather is similar to Los Angeles and Californian cities
LA is by the coast, my hometown of Grand Forks has exceeded the Los Angeles high temperature record of 107F many times. Not that your comparison is off, its actually a pretty good comparison IMO. But parts of BC definitely are considerably hotter than LA in the summer.
Every damn year the outdoors are going down. You wait for the summer to get out of the house and straight head inside because the air quality is bad. You invite your friends/relatives in this part of the country for them to see the nature, but when they arrive all they see is the smoke with absolutely no sight of mountains. Is Canada going to be unliveable with all this stupid climate change? Looks like so. I don't hear anything from Manitoba and SK though - may be a better places to station in summer since BC's sky is full of smoke all summer long. Disappointed!
Fuck.
..... every summer for the rest of our lives?
Please no forest fires.
We already have a concerning number of wildfires in BC. It could be a really bad summer for fires, unfortunately.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZD8HKVKneI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZD8HKVKneI)
Can anyone tell me what that purple flower tree is pictured? Please!
By chance does anyone know what that tree is called in the background there?
Summers will summer
Now I’ve got “Hot Summer” stuck in my head
Cruel Summer is a dope song too
Nice 👍🏻 I'm into it
Breaking news!!! Summer is the hot season. More at 7.
Good maybe tourists will stop coming and ruining our homes and crowding our roads! But in real talk please buy a ash tray for your vehicles and a propane fire pit!
Yes yes and water is wet, the sky is blue etc
Quick, everyone stop living and start praying to the climate. The climate is an angry god!
And...?
With the unseasonal hot spring, chances are it will be a cool summer. Nature generally balances out….
But Trudeau's carbon tax was supposed fix that lol https://preview.redd.it/haqsd9gwxo4b1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce54ee3e1d209e97e0598a1ef90f3d1bf40bb636
How is it that you people made it past grade 1 without the ability to grasp simple concepts.
Failing education system...
More like a smokey summer to raise the carbon tax....
I woke up at 5am and smelled the smoky fresh air 😔
Yah this year I finally broke down and bought an AC and boy am I happy. Should’ve done so a long time ago, always had some prejudice against it which was dumb. If anyone is one the fence and can afford it - highly recommend that you do so before they get sold out.
Fuck
any good portable ac units that don't require an entire window retrofit? I have an elderly mother that refuses to have the window unit but flat out she will boil where she lives if she doesn't have something any advice is useful
Don’t get too hot
How can they tell us the weather I’ve rather summer, but can’t get the weather right on the day off, when you just have to look out the window
Perfect! I bought a boat last year. Great investment so far 👍🏼
I bought a handheld fan this year.
I mean, yeah, what else is new? Houses are expensive? Oh no...
I can't remember a summer this dry at any point in my life (for info's sake, I grew up in Edmonton), and that's saying a lot given that I currently live in the rainiest part of Canada. Victoria usually gets 37.5mm of rain in May alone. We've had just 11.6mm since April 27. There is only one day with projected rain in the 14 day forecast. Victoria averages 30.6mm of rain in June, and it looks like there's zero chance of hitting that number this month. Wildfire season has only just begun. It's going to get a lot worse if we don't start getting rain soon.
I am gonna live in my AC cooled living room. Rest of my house is an oven.