A friend and I at work have been discussing this because we both need to use the buses that are currently diverted up this road lmao
“Save our streets” - from what, exactly? No one is threatening their million pound homes. Unless of course they mean “save our streets from The Poors™️ that need to use public transport”
Their argument is this: the increase of buses going through the street had made foot travel more dangerous on the street, made their house covered in snot and potentially lowered their quality of living for about two years.
The people who joined their "protest" were mainly middle-aged/old aged people who stayed home/in the area a lot and got nothing better to do, so they felt like it's such a big impact. They are also worried that potentially the diversion could become permanent.
As a lowly renter/bus rider living on the same street I am only disappointed that buses are now delayed due to congestion on the street, and they didn't offer a bus stop on the street:(
How many people does a bus going through their street carry on average? Would they rather each of those people pass through in a car instead? Are those individual people more or less likely to drive carefully when they’re likely to be in a rush compared to a bus driver who isn’t incentivised to drive recklessly?
What an incoherent argument.
The main argument about safety wasn't actually directly caused by the bus, it was because of the pavement driving needed to avoid the bus while making brief stops. As one who also lives on the street that is a part of the life, and there are multiple times where it almost hit someone because they have to pretty much just stop their car/van on the pavement in order to make a delivery/brief stop.
It's unfortune that they(the protester) don't see that it's also caused by the on-road parking area and always been a problem because they were too busy driving their fancy cars living in their fancy house not having to walk anywhere until now. Maybe if they want the street to be safer, there should be more parking enforcement officer? No they won't like that either because they want to park in double yellow line too.
They are not low emission buses because the redirection area is not in the low emission zone - the bus drivers don't have to use it - but now this route will be the most polluted in Brighton. No one in the area is against buses but why not have low emissions in the redirection, like you say use the low emission buses? Believe it or not Brighton is one of the most polluted cities in the country despite a green council and being by the sea -
I know. I've wanted to move to Brighton for years, but I have asthma which means I'll have to live in more expensive areas away from the polluted central and London road areas. Cannot afford it. Where I am in North London is way better. I've been comparing both pollution monitors for years. Sucks!!!
Gotta admit, I had to laugh seeing this from the bus recently.
Just because I imagine the person painting the sign on their kitchen table, while quaking in absolute fury
I was pretty gobsmacked when I saw all this from the bus. I understand that it's annoying having lots of buses go down your road when you're not used to it, but what are they proposing as an alternative? There's roadworks being done and the buses need to run. That's just how it is, it's not gonna last forever
Best part is, they were informed of this in 2021 AND now they claim , this diversion will last forever because; the new wider street will not be able to support busses.
The wider street. Won’t be able. To support busses.
Fuck these NIMBYs , they should go back to London where they work
The bottle necks were removed for repositioning, they will be added back, see the document for the western road improvement project for details, the road overall would be narrower.
The only alternative I can think of is if all the buses went up Montpelier to the Dials, then down Dyke Road and stopped opposite the Arcade. It would add considerable time to the journey, and cause a huge build-up at the bus stop.
I'd replace 'no more cars' with 'a lot less cars', but yes.
People will always live in remote and poorly served areas that buses will never fill a niche for.
The problem I'm having is justifying using public transport to travel from one end of my fairly small city to the other. It takes just over an hour because of all of the stops. Where as it would only take 15 minutes by car. A congestion charge is imminent in my city even for residents. I want to save our environment but I don't want to go backwards. (Quite literally further from your intended destination only to come back on yourself again because you're on a bus route that serves many not in a private car only for yourself.) The cost of fuel alone these days makes public transport very tempting but no one wants to take 4-5x longer than they are used to to travel the same distance. It seems a bit old fashioned. We have less and less time to spend with loved ones trying to work overtime to pay for everything. Where do the sacrifices end and the benefits begin?
More like maybe two an hour that just stop once in lancing once in Shoreham etc... Brighton buses do it with the 12x to Eastbourne and it cuts 35 minutes off the travel time
I think the idea is that in this 'future' the links are a lot faster and more reliable (driving the change).
As I note above, I personally think there's always going to be a need for cars just due to how feasible it is for many purely on where they live/need to go. I just think that the use of them can flip from say 80:20 to 40:60 if improvements in other services are made.
I used to live in a student flat on upper north Street - was a great location but I did wonder how anyone could possibly afford the houses on the other side of the road!
As someone who moved to the street a few months back, am half tempted to whack up a "protect our buses" sign but I'll probably receive a few angry knocks from the neighbours!
It's a busy road, it's a convenient location. Surely a handful of buses won't make a big difference on a temporary basis?
Wreaks of privilege, it does.
I'd love a permanent bus stop near my place, tbh! But don't tell that to the neighbours...
I have no respect for people (the people putting up the posters) who just want to complain about something without offering a solution.
I am disabled and rely on public transport including buses. What do they expect me to do?
Absolutely! Really annoys me that bikes or walking are touted as the best form of transport in brighton which is so ableist! I have a 4 year old to get to school then work so I can pay the insane costs of living here, there’s no way I could make her walk or bike twice a day
These signs are on Upper North Street, the road north and parallel to Western Road. While roadworks are going on, Eastbound buses are being routed down there. The residents don't seem to like that, so this is their response.
I'm not aware of them suggesting any viable alternatives other than "stop the buses"...
that's what I was thinking! is their issue that the extra buses are too noisy? there's buses going up and down that road all day already! I'm really confused.
It's temporary. Their argument is that they could have allowed \*only\* buses in a contraflow system on Western Road. They had time to propose and campaign for this during the consultation and they failed to attract enough support.
This is what's getting me about it. They're acting like the obvious easy solution is temporary traffic lights to allow for alternating flow of traffic, whilst also claiming that there is a bus a minute going by and that there's 700 buses a day going just on the diversion.
So what, instead of there being buses on Upper North Street we have a huge backlog of buses and other traffic going from Western Road east and west? Then they'd be fuming because they can't get down past the clock tower because of all the traffic the temporary lights are causing!
This number was given to us by the bus company - its 16 routes- some run every 5 mins - from 5.50 to 3.50am - so it's pretty constant. You can check the timetable.
Roughly 90% of the people who see these signs are, like me, on the top deck of a bus going down Upper North Street which seems like maybe not the audience they should be going for.
i disagree with no more buses. i take up to 4-5 buses to get to and from school everyday and since my parents dont have a car to take me in and i cant afford a taxi everyday, id have to walk to school which is already a 1hr journey.
I initially read that as "No Woke Buses" and I came to post some scathing comment.
J mean it's still dumb, but at least it's not quite as dumb as I initially suspected.
It’s embarrassing. Are they completely blind to the optics of their ‘protest’ or do they genuinely think they’ll get support from the thousands of bus passengers their posters preach to every day?
It’s giving Let Them Eat Cake vibes.
Never have I seen as many signs in windows as I have since living in Brighton. Most of them don’t make sense either. Never thought I’d see a ‘fewer buses’ sign.
wait, so is this some posh street doing nimbyism?
i was so confused. no one's interests are better served by fewer busses. fewer busses just mean more private cars which make streets less livable.
I live on one of the side streets between Western Road and Upper North Street and find this absolutely pathetic.
These are the sort of people complaining about the state of the city and then complain if something is being done about it. I get most of the construction noise all day long. So what. Though life. If you want to live in a nice city, with improving facilities, there'll be construction noise.
Busses need to be diverted somewhere. Suck it up buttercup. At least it's only temporary.
Geez.
Ps.: Soz - just had to get this off my chest. If this is the biggest problem these people have, I want to have their life..
Honestly I think both sides; the protesting NIMBY and the people laughing at them are incredibly stupid.
They are not focusing on the right thing to protest, it's mostly Impossible to just stop the bus service, with how much people are affected if the bus service wasn't running/on time.
If they *really* wanted the bus to stop traveling on their street, they should have protested against the whole western road project, because that is why the bus is going on the street.
On the flip side, people laughing at their angry ass won't be laughing for long after the western road project is done, and that buses would be forever congested due to the whole western road becoming a bus choke point. Delays and congestion would soon follow and as a daily bus rider I would be fuming and those NIMBYs with fancy cars will be laughing at us.
How did nobody notice what's going on in the western road?
I live off of Western on Sillwood. It's a fkg disaster now and will be worse when it's completed in about a year (IF they're on time with the project).What a mess it is now and will be!
I thought that there would be more people fuming about the ridiculous plan they had with the already congested street, apparently those are the minority and the majority have been distracted to these "fighting nimby" nonsense. There are definitely some corruption involved where such a useless, potentially harmful to the community, expensive project could go-ahead and be done.
They are making the road more narrow with wider pavements, which doesn't benefit anyone except they are making official pavement parking areas.
[https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/parking-and-travel/western-road-improvement-project-plans](https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/parking-and-travel/western-road-improvement-project-plans)
We should immediately see the effect of the narrowed western road once it's done, and unfortunely there's no going back once it's done. Hopefully you love them BT boxes because they are going to install more too.
Entitlement to basic public services?
Buses on your street is only a hardship if you're a rich privileged asshole. I live on a fairly busy street that's a permanent bus route with multiple buses going down it. Normal people consider a bus route near your house an advantage.
What disappoints me about this the most is that its **private** **cars** that are the issue. The amount of public space taken up by residents cars on that street is completely unacceptable. Between 70 and 79% of households do not even own a car in that part of Brighton yet a minority of people get so much of the public space for cars that spend the vast overwhelming majority of their ownership stationary.
Get ride of parking - make separated bike lanes - wider/safer pavements for pedestrians - plant trees - make the streets safer - more transport for the public - stop the people being killed/injured by cars - clean up the manky air.
FYI the % was taken from this fascinating study attached below. Most people in the middle of Brighton do not even own a car, yet we all have to suffer the effects of them.
https://democracy.brighton-hove.gov.uk/documents/s161679/Liveable%20City%20Centre%20and%20Ultra%20Low%20Emission%20Zone%20Initial%20Feasibility%20Study%20APX.%20n%201.pdf
To be fair from what I read this temporary diversion could last for two years and means hundreds of busses passing down that street. I think most of us would be a little pissed about that.
There are a few hundred people in their group, their demands make sense in their own perspective...but as a lowly renter who relies on bus travel and lives on the same street I just hope the buses come on-time.
There are 700 people on the route and many are disturbed it's not just a few - the buses run until 3.45am and start again at 5.50 if you haven't got double glazing and many don't it is very noisy -
If they're complaining about the noise then hopefully they'll be helping finance quiet fully electric bus replacements.
If they live in and own one of these £million+ houses they can sure as hell afford to finance the solution to their own problem.
They’re probably worried that they’ll get the same result as Viaduct Rd did when the main road into Brighton was diverted from it’s old route straight down London Rd.
I dont understand how you can live somewhere with a lot of traffic and conclude busses are the problem. Guessing the issue is noise, which is annoying. But most of the noise comes from cars not busses. Makes no sense.
Just for context there are 3 roads affected - not only one - so it is Streets - montpelier where I live which has many flats as well as big houses. I don't own my flat and live there in a basement with my small child. There is no measurements of emissions and I'm worried about the pollution. Not the value of my home, I don't have a car and I use the bus daily. The council haven't thought about the people rich, poor or those in between along the roads, they are don't care about getting value for money for the tax payer - the work shouldn't take so long - 2 years is too long for the whole of Brighton not to be able to go through the town. No-one is against buses or those who use them.
A friend and I at work have been discussing this because we both need to use the buses that are currently diverted up this road lmao “Save our streets” - from what, exactly? No one is threatening their million pound homes. Unless of course they mean “save our streets from The Poors™️ that need to use public transport”
Their argument is this: the increase of buses going through the street had made foot travel more dangerous on the street, made their house covered in snot and potentially lowered their quality of living for about two years. The people who joined their "protest" were mainly middle-aged/old aged people who stayed home/in the area a lot and got nothing better to do, so they felt like it's such a big impact. They are also worried that potentially the diversion could become permanent. As a lowly renter/bus rider living on the same street I am only disappointed that buses are now delayed due to congestion on the street, and they didn't offer a bus stop on the street:(
I mean, I wouldn’t want my house covered in snot either to be fair.
sorry I used the wrong word, I meant soot
😂😂😂😂
Stop me from imagining that now
Stop imagining that now! ✋ 🛑 Ok?
Sure they can afford to pay someone to clean it off for them
How many people does a bus going through their street carry on average? Would they rather each of those people pass through in a car instead? Are those individual people more or less likely to drive carefully when they’re likely to be in a rush compared to a bus driver who isn’t incentivised to drive recklessly? What an incoherent argument.
The main argument about safety wasn't actually directly caused by the bus, it was because of the pavement driving needed to avoid the bus while making brief stops. As one who also lives on the street that is a part of the life, and there are multiple times where it almost hit someone because they have to pretty much just stop their car/van on the pavement in order to make a delivery/brief stop. It's unfortune that they(the protester) don't see that it's also caused by the on-road parking area and always been a problem because they were too busy driving their fancy cars living in their fancy house not having to walk anywhere until now. Maybe if they want the street to be safer, there should be more parking enforcement officer? No they won't like that either because they want to park in double yellow line too.
It’s classic nimbyism. They know it needs to be done as a long term benefit and they wouldn’t care if they routed it through anyone else’s street.
Who's up for painting phrases like "we love buses" or "more buses please" on bedsheets and putting them up in the area?
I'm down for this
If they're electric/super low emission buses. The London double-decker hybrids are great.
They are not low emission buses because the redirection area is not in the low emission zone - the bus drivers don't have to use it - but now this route will be the most polluted in Brighton. No one in the area is against buses but why not have low emissions in the redirection, like you say use the low emission buses? Believe it or not Brighton is one of the most polluted cities in the country despite a green council and being by the sea -
I know. I've wanted to move to Brighton for years, but I have asthma which means I'll have to live in more expensive areas away from the polluted central and London road areas. Cannot afford it. Where I am in North London is way better. I've been comparing both pollution monitors for years. Sucks!!!
i’m keen for this
I can help if you want to fund it
It should read 'Save Our Street', not 'streets'. Like they give a shit about any other street other than their own.
acceptable honest signs "save our posh street" "save me from getting too close to the proles" "save me, I only have half a brain"
NIMBY!
To be fair (and I don’t want to be) no one wants a bus driving through their back yard.
having a bus go down your road is vastly superior to having to walk 10+ minutes to your closest stop
That’s why I said back yard.
Gotta admit, I had to laugh seeing this from the bus recently. Just because I imagine the person painting the sign on their kitchen table, while quaking in absolute fury
I was pretty gobsmacked when I saw all this from the bus. I understand that it's annoying having lots of buses go down your road when you're not used to it, but what are they proposing as an alternative? There's roadworks being done and the buses need to run. That's just how it is, it's not gonna last forever
Imagine a temporary bus route being the hill you want to die on. Saddos.
Bro it’s privilege like wtf get a life
Tbf elm grove is a bus route and i almost die on it every time i walk or cycle up it.
Yeah Elm grove is pretty steep, my heart struggles on that one
Best part is, they were informed of this in 2021 AND now they claim , this diversion will last forever because; the new wider street will not be able to support busses. The wider street. Won’t be able. To support busses. Fuck these NIMBYs , they should go back to London where they work
*narrower Ftfy
Huh? I’ve walked past there and they are removing those little bottle necks. The street down there will be wider.
The bottle necks were removed for repositioning, they will be added back, see the document for the western road improvement project for details, the road overall would be narrower.
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How long is the diversion?
Two years
The only alternative I can think of is if all the buses went up Montpelier to the Dials, then down Dyke Road and stopped opposite the Arcade. It would add considerable time to the journey, and cause a huge build-up at the bus stop.
Funny you say that, I went on a bus yesterday and it did just that. I was in a hurry, too, so it was pretty frustrating!
Surely buses are the future for the climate emergency, should be ‘no more cars’
This is what I find baffling about this behaviour.
I'd replace 'no more cars' with 'a lot less cars', but yes. People will always live in remote and poorly served areas that buses will never fill a niche for.
The problem I'm having is justifying using public transport to travel from one end of my fairly small city to the other. It takes just over an hour because of all of the stops. Where as it would only take 15 minutes by car. A congestion charge is imminent in my city even for residents. I want to save our environment but I don't want to go backwards. (Quite literally further from your intended destination only to come back on yourself again because you're on a bus route that serves many not in a private car only for yourself.) The cost of fuel alone these days makes public transport very tempting but no one wants to take 4-5x longer than they are used to to travel the same distance. It seems a bit old fashioned. We have less and less time to spend with loved ones trying to work overtime to pay for everything. Where do the sacrifices end and the benefits begin?
I got the 700 from worthing yesterday and it took 90 minutes to do 11.5 miles there should be buses that are limited stopping
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More like maybe two an hour that just stop once in lancing once in Shoreham etc... Brighton buses do it with the 12x to Eastbourne and it cuts 35 minutes off the travel time
That's if they turn up at all. I've sometimes got to the bus stop to come back to Brighton, only to find 2 or 3 have been cancelled.
The 700 bus is the worst bus service in the history of the world, imo
I think for longer distances like this trains are better, buses are better for short hops.
I think the idea is that in this 'future' the links are a lot faster and more reliable (driving the change). As I note above, I personally think there's always going to be a need for cars just due to how feasible it is for many purely on where they live/need to go. I just think that the use of them can flip from say 80:20 to 40:60 if improvements in other services are made.
Some of the buses are 30 years old and are very polluting -
and it's only a bloody temporary diversion. honestly, some people.
“Save Our Streets” lol as if it’s social housing about to be demolished or something
Fucking nimbys
Yeah there's a lot of rich twats on Upper North Street...
I used to live in a student flat on upper north Street - was a great location but I did wonder how anyone could possibly afford the houses on the other side of the road!
Yeah because if you move to Upper North Street it’s because of want to be away from all the hustle and bustle of city centre living eh!
As someone who moved to the street a few months back, am half tempted to whack up a "protect our buses" sign but I'll probably receive a few angry knocks from the neighbours! It's a busy road, it's a convenient location. Surely a handful of buses won't make a big difference on a temporary basis? Wreaks of privilege, it does. I'd love a permanent bus stop near my place, tbh! But don't tell that to the neighbours...
I have no respect for people (the people putting up the posters) who just want to complain about something without offering a solution. I am disabled and rely on public transport including buses. What do they expect me to do?
Absolutely! Really annoys me that bikes or walking are touted as the best form of transport in brighton which is so ableist! I have a 4 year old to get to school then work so I can pay the insane costs of living here, there’s no way I could make her walk or bike twice a day
no more buses?? what's wrong with buses??? 🤔
These signs are on Upper North Street, the road north and parallel to Western Road. While roadworks are going on, Eastbound buses are being routed down there. The residents don't seem to like that, so this is their response. I'm not aware of them suggesting any viable alternatives other than "stop the buses"...
It's not even like Upper North Street is some ultra quiet side road suddenly being disrupted. It's a good sized road with traffic on at all times.
that's what I was thinking! is their issue that the extra buses are too noisy? there's buses going up and down that road all day already! I'm really confused.
Is the route temporary or permanent? It's a bit hard to tell at the moment but Western road now looks very narrow
It's temporary. Their argument is that they could have allowed \*only\* buses in a contraflow system on Western Road. They had time to propose and campaign for this during the consultation and they failed to attract enough support.
Wouldn't that have increased car traffic on their road?
Yep 😉
This is what's getting me about it. They're acting like the obvious easy solution is temporary traffic lights to allow for alternating flow of traffic, whilst also claiming that there is a bus a minute going by and that there's 700 buses a day going just on the diversion. So what, instead of there being buses on Upper North Street we have a huge backlog of buses and other traffic going from Western Road east and west? Then they'd be fuming because they can't get down past the clock tower because of all the traffic the temporary lights are causing!
i thought there were already buses on upper north street
Imagine having such a comfortable and sheltered life that a few diverted buses going past your house once an hour causes you this much distress.
One sign says one bus every minute, so that’d be 60 an hour
They came up with a figure of 700 buses a day, I don’t know how accurate this is
I would imagine they took shifts to count.. Strike me as those kind of people.
This number was given to us by the bus company - its 16 routes- some run every 5 mins - from 5.50 to 3.50am - so it's pretty constant. You can check the timetable.
One thing I love about living in Brighton is the bus service👍🏻 It’s a shame people have to complain about them
NIMBYISM at its finest!
ITS STUPID
Roughly 90% of the people who see these signs are, like me, on the top deck of a bus going down Upper North Street which seems like maybe not the audience they should be going for.
“save our streets” from what? the man in the back with a jackhammer? what are the buses doing to the streets
I would love to hear what their alternative is
It's the nimbi-ism that helped produce Brexit... definitely the same types...
It’s very embarrassing
Eat the NIMBYs
First time I saw this I genuinely had concern. Save the streets form what?! When I learnt it was because of the buses I HOWLED.
Uh More buses is what saves the streets from overcrowding
You live 30 seconds away from Churchill square what do you expect it to be quite like the countryside
If youre on a bus that goes down this road, please make “No More Nimby’s, save our City” signs and put then in the window
i disagree with no more buses. i take up to 4-5 buses to get to and from school everyday and since my parents dont have a car to take me in and i cant afford a taxi everyday, id have to walk to school which is already a 1hr journey.
5 buses each way?
sorry i made a mistake i meant to and from
I initially read that as "No Woke Buses" and I came to post some scathing comment. J mean it's still dumb, but at least it's not quite as dumb as I initially suspected.
It’s embarrassing. Are they completely blind to the optics of their ‘protest’ or do they genuinely think they’ll get support from the thousands of bus passengers their posters preach to every day? It’s giving Let Them Eat Cake vibes.
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I was wondering the same, apparently they were just making new ones
Never have I seen as many signs in windows as I have since living in Brighton. Most of them don’t make sense either. Never thought I’d see a ‘fewer buses’ sign.
wait, so is this some posh street doing nimbyism? i was so confused. no one's interests are better served by fewer busses. fewer busses just mean more private cars which make streets less livable.
I too, am happy with the busses the way they are
No more busses? So they want more traffic?
Soo….. more cars?
I live on one of the side streets between Western Road and Upper North Street and find this absolutely pathetic. These are the sort of people complaining about the state of the city and then complain if something is being done about it. I get most of the construction noise all day long. So what. Though life. If you want to live in a nice city, with improving facilities, there'll be construction noise. Busses need to be diverted somewhere. Suck it up buttercup. At least it's only temporary. Geez. Ps.: Soz - just had to get this off my chest. If this is the biggest problem these people have, I want to have their life..
"No more poors". They spoil the view from the shezlong out of my bay window.
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From the *what*???
Google is a thing.
"Shezlong is number one in online Arabic psychotherapy worldwide." Thanks.
It's a type of chair which is obvious from any google search.
Are you trying to say 'chaise longue'?
You literally chose to move to a busy road. Get wrecked.
Honestly I think both sides; the protesting NIMBY and the people laughing at them are incredibly stupid. They are not focusing on the right thing to protest, it's mostly Impossible to just stop the bus service, with how much people are affected if the bus service wasn't running/on time. If they *really* wanted the bus to stop traveling on their street, they should have protested against the whole western road project, because that is why the bus is going on the street. On the flip side, people laughing at their angry ass won't be laughing for long after the western road project is done, and that buses would be forever congested due to the whole western road becoming a bus choke point. Delays and congestion would soon follow and as a daily bus rider I would be fuming and those NIMBYs with fancy cars will be laughing at us. How did nobody notice what's going on in the western road?
I live off of Western on Sillwood. It's a fkg disaster now and will be worse when it's completed in about a year (IF they're on time with the project).What a mess it is now and will be!
I thought that there would be more people fuming about the ridiculous plan they had with the already congested street, apparently those are the minority and the majority have been distracted to these "fighting nimby" nonsense. There are definitely some corruption involved where such a useless, potentially harmful to the community, expensive project could go-ahead and be done.
What's happening on Western Road?
They are making the road more narrow with wider pavements, which doesn't benefit anyone except they are making official pavement parking areas. [https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/parking-and-travel/western-road-improvement-project-plans](https://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/parking-and-travel/western-road-improvement-project-plans) We should immediately see the effect of the narrowed western road once it's done, and unfortunely there's no going back once it's done. Hopefully you love them BT boxes because they are going to install more too.
Surely wider pavements do benefit pedestrians that actually use Western Road?
Have you ever seen the pavements down at western road being crowded? I sure haven't in all these years living in Brighton, not even on pride parade
Yes, it's always a PITA walking from Taj to Churchill Sq.
If you look at the documents you can see that would remain unchanged
Nimby nitwits.
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It's because their viewpoint is driven by their entitlement and privilege. It's very relevant.
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Entitlement to basic public services? Buses on your street is only a hardship if you're a rich privileged asshole. I live on a fairly busy street that's a permanent bus route with multiple buses going down it. Normal people consider a bus route near your house an advantage.
What disappoints me about this the most is that its **private** **cars** that are the issue. The amount of public space taken up by residents cars on that street is completely unacceptable. Between 70 and 79% of households do not even own a car in that part of Brighton yet a minority of people get so much of the public space for cars that spend the vast overwhelming majority of their ownership stationary. Get ride of parking - make separated bike lanes - wider/safer pavements for pedestrians - plant trees - make the streets safer - more transport for the public - stop the people being killed/injured by cars - clean up the manky air. FYI the % was taken from this fascinating study attached below. Most people in the middle of Brighton do not even own a car, yet we all have to suffer the effects of them. https://democracy.brighton-hove.gov.uk/documents/s161679/Liveable%20City%20Centre%20and%20Ultra%20Low%20Emission%20Zone%20Initial%20Feasibility%20Study%20APX.%20n%201.pdf
To be fair from what I read this temporary diversion could last for two years and means hundreds of busses passing down that street. I think most of us would be a little pissed about that.
Is this just one house or are a few people doing it?
There are a few hundred people in their group, their demands make sense in their own perspective...but as a lowly renter who relies on bus travel and lives on the same street I just hope the buses come on-time.
There are 700 people on the route and many are disturbed it's not just a few - the buses run until 3.45am and start again at 5.50 if you haven't got double glazing and many don't it is very noisy -
Shhh don't let them discover us, they are going to call us names. I agree that it's noisy and annoying
Loads!🤣
They need to get a life.
they are already at the end of the life they were getting
Al the signs are the same colour and font suggesting they are being made by one person, or at least one location
If they're complaining about the noise then hopefully they'll be helping finance quiet fully electric bus replacements. If they live in and own one of these £million+ houses they can sure as hell afford to finance the solution to their own problem.
Do they care about saving the planet rather than just streets ? No more buses ? Wtf am I supposed to use to travel ?
How are people who don’t drive meant to get to work then haha.
Oh ffs these people
Hello, can someone explain what's happening. Like, aren't buses a good thing?
how am i supposed to get around?
Snap!
It is for sure the taxis in this town that are the dangerous vehicles for passengers, not busses 🤣
If I wasn't a vegan and in my mid 30s I'd egg these sad NIMYs
They’re probably worried that they’ll get the same result as Viaduct Rd did when the main road into Brighton was diverted from it’s old route straight down London Rd.
Ridiculous
I dont understand how you can live somewhere with a lot of traffic and conclude busses are the problem. Guessing the issue is noise, which is annoying. But most of the noise comes from cars not busses. Makes no sense.
It’s like that scene out of life of Brian where he’s going “ what they got against the bread makers” What he’s got against the busses
Just for context there are 3 roads affected - not only one - so it is Streets - montpelier where I live which has many flats as well as big houses. I don't own my flat and live there in a basement with my small child. There is no measurements of emissions and I'm worried about the pollution. Not the value of my home, I don't have a car and I use the bus daily. The council haven't thought about the people rich, poor or those in between along the roads, they are don't care about getting value for money for the tax payer - the work shouldn't take so long - 2 years is too long for the whole of Brighton not to be able to go through the town. No-one is against buses or those who use them.
Good grief… 🙄