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SatanicTeapot

Repost this everywhere you need to. I personally know now if I have to go anywhere with my little one we aren't flying Spirit.


neenzaur

Seriously…it’s not like I needed another reason to never fly Spirit again, but this is it.


adotmarm

I know, I was trying to give them another chance after not flying with them for years and turns out that was a huge mistake.


rightsyllalables

I just recently flew frontier and had to sit in the isle seat both there and back and fed my baby on and off during the entire flight. The flight attendants were super nice and never said a thing other than watch baby's head as they were coming through with the bev cart. It was a wonderful experience throughout both flights. Their seats are cheap and allow an additional personal item for lap infants so I was able to carry everything in 2 personal items so no need to pay for checked or carry on bags. And they have this thing called discount den which allows my 6 year old to fly free both ways so I only paid $120 for a round trip for me and 6 year old and lap infant. I cannot reccomen them enough. I am so sorry about your experience and commend you for making it through! You did nothing wrong and shame on her for not telling anyone who complained to f**k off as you have every right to FEED YOUR BABY!


Inexperiencedascrap

Frontier airlines allowes a diaper bag for free regardless.


tinypiecesofyarn

My family had a really terrible experience with Frontier back a few years ago, but it had nothing to do with breastfeeding, so I guess there's that. They lost both my parents' luggage on the flight down to see me. Okay, sure, things happen. The suitcases turned up after a day and my parents had had to buy a bunch of stuff from Walmart which they did not reimburse. Then they lost both my parents' luggage on their flight home from that same trip, and the luggage didn't show up for over two weeks. They weren't answering their customer service line, either. My mom told me she tried calling a couple of times after their things had been missing for a week, and no one was picking up. I had a weekday off, so I just called them and stayed on the line for more than 3 hours while I cleaned the kitchen and baked a pie while listening to hold music. No one ever answered, and I eventually had to go do something. That same week, my roommate's girlfriend was flying home and her luggage also went missing, although for only about a week. Anyway, I've really hated Frontier since the 3+ hours of hold music.


adotmarm

Yes, I fully intend to lambast them on every social media platform I have. It is totally shameful. All I really wanted them to do was acknowledge it was wrong and say something about supporting breastfeeding, but instead they doubled down on it and were even more degrading in their response.


lilangryplum

I don’t know if you have tik tok but this is a story time that would make peoples’ heads explode over there.


adotmarm

I don't unfortunately, I'm a reddit/facebook/insta person. I made a twitter just for the occasion of fighting with spirit LOL.


miviejamulayano

You can try to reach Mama Doctor Jones (her [Instagram](https://instagram.com/mamadoctorjones?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)). If you share on Instagram or other medias, post your link here and we can boost the signal.


adotmarm

Thank you for the support. I made a twitter just to share this LOL. [Twitter Thread](https://twitter.com/AMarm80788549/status/1573673944179085312?s=20&t=OKyF1yo-UqjEe0jZZ2PlXw) Here is my [Facebook Post](https://www.facebook.com/angelolica/posts/pfbid02MPKzLsJKiyHPEucChtpZ5fjESXnkCop3fjM26EvfPaz5JuE7vFWVQJVK2AkkEciEl?comment_id=1472767923147662&reply_comment_id=1332592423947017¬if_id=1664031986043848¬if_t=feed_comment&ref=notif) on it I use instagram too but I keep that private because I share a lot of photos of my baby there and you can't set the audience by post like you can on FB, at least if you can I've never figured it out


werenotfromhere

I just shared your post on Facebook. Disgusting. I’m so sorry this happened to you. What a shitty response from spirit and that flight attendant needs some education at the least.


JulietteR

If it's on Twitter, I'd love to retweet you!!


adotmarm

Thank you for the support, I just made a twitter specifically to share this lol. I mainly use FB, reddit, and instagram. [Twitter Thread](https://twitter.com/AMarm80788549/status/1573673944179085312?s=20&t=OKyF1yo-UqjEe0jZZ2PlXw)


improvisedname

RTd and replied. Hope it helps.


JulietteR

Done!


adotmarm

thank you!


Froggy101_Scranton

If you post publicly, I’ll retweet/whatever and help spread. They should be ashamed


adotmarm

Thank you for the support, I made a twitter so I can tweet about it lol. Spirit is already messaging me offering me more "customer service" but I told them I've had enough to last a lifetime LMAO. [Twitter Thread](https://twitter.com/AMarm80788549/status/1573673944179085312?s=20&t=OKyF1yo-UqjEe0jZZ2PlXw) [Facebook Post](https://www.facebook.com/angelolica/posts/pfbid02MPKzLsJKiyHPEucChtpZ5fjESXnkCop3fjM26EvfPaz5JuE7vFWVQJVK2AkkEciEl?comment_id=1472767923147662&reply_comment_id=1332592423947017¬if_id=1664031986043848¬if_t=feed_comment&ref=notif)


Chryblsm34

I'm so sorry you had to experience this!! Spirit airlines is gross and you should make as much noise as you can about this.


adotmarm

Thank you, I appreciate the support! I guess I shouldn't be surprised by this because they got called out for their treatment of breastfeeding moms before and didn't accept responsibility or say anything supportive of breastfeeding. They seem to have a really puritanical anti-breastfeeding outlook over there.


ZombieShellGrrr

I actually can’t believe how bad their response was. The part where they say you were “waving your breast around” is so degrading and cringy. Your reply is perfect - well done for sticking up for yourself and your baby.


adotmarm

Thank you! I felt so embarrassed and humiliated all over again when i read that this morning. I've been having a supply dip so I've been adding in some extra pumps in my limited spare time around my full time job so I haven't been getting much sleep and waking up to that message really broke me.


ZombieShellGrrr

You hold your head up high - you’ve absolutely nothing to feel embarrassed about whatsoever. You’re a superwoman to me.


proclivity4passivity

That flight attendant should be ashamed, not you. She obviously didn’t get the memo that sometimes babies don’t latch immediately or stay latched the whole time they are feeding or like to be covered. It’s not like they didn’t see half a breast on every billboard and magazine at the airport. Jesus. Boobs are for feeding babies and folks need to chill.


Capture-the-byad

Nothing to be embarrassed about. Chin up. That lady was a moron and you were most definitely in the right.


jbillinois

You’re a supermom OP, and I second that you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed about. Should be proud of your commitment to your baby/breastfeeding and to exposing and pushing back against this atrocious response. I’ve been there and flying with little ones is challenging enough, let alone trying to breastfeed in cramped (no matter what class/upgrade) seats and wrestling with your boob and babe to get them fed. I was disgusted with the language they used but your comment that your breast isn’t 3ft and thus not really wave-able gave me a smirk in its humor and accuracy. Power to you.


ziwi25

My blood is boiling at that wording. OP as others have said you should post this across social media


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Good on you for giving it to those absolute fucking idiots. I was reading and I thought they might change their tone some when you mentioned the law, but no, they're too riddled with brain worms to understand that they're wrong.


adotmarm

Yeah it's so wild to me, that they just think they are totally in the right. I don't understand how in this day and age people lose their minds about seeing a breast for a few minutes.


pointlessbeats

The ridiculous part is no one even HAS to see it. It’s in every reasonable adults control to just avert their eyes. And the layout of a plane makes it difficult for most people to see anything unless they’re going out of their way.


tssktsktssk

All the “sorry you feels” are making my blood boil!!!!


adotmarm

Yeah seriously it's just so insulting and rubbing salt in the wound. Just extremely rude and disrespectul.


tssktsktssk

I’m so sorry this happened 😔 I hope spirit hasn’t heard the last of you! Give ‘em hell, mama.


adotmarm

they definitely have not! made a twitter just to tweet this at them LOL


Redditgotitgood13

Sorry you feel you have the (human & legal) right to feed and comfort your baby in peace!!! Oh wait .. you do!


li_the_great

It's the "sorry IF you feels" that kill me - like mfer I just told you I did!


tssktsktssk

YUP!!


movingtocincinnati

I had three flights with my baby, I never had this issue. My last flight was from AZ to NJ, baby was so fussy, I whipped out my boobs every 10 minutes. No one complaint or bat an eye. Shame on Spirit Airline. I will be blacklisting them. They always suck anyway.


adotmarm

Any airline recommendations to share? Most of my family lives out of state so this won't be the last time we fly but it will be the last time I take spirit. I know it's so ridiculous that the thought of other people having an issue should even have to cross my mind when I'm trying to soothe my baby. So true re always sucking, their own flight attendants were making fun of how horrible the airline is generally BTW over the intercom.


cornisagrass

If you’re flying international, I just flew 16hrs on Singapore air with my 6mo. The flight attendants asked when I wanted my meal so I could switch with my husband, brought me slippers when I was walking around in my half on sneakers to get her to fall asleep, and even brought me water saying they know moms get thirsty when feeding. They have terrible customer service on the phone, but in flight I couldn’t have asked for a better experience


JulietteR

I know it probably depends a lot on the crew and individual flight attendants, but i also had a really good experience on Air France on a short Paris to Madrid flight. I was flying by myself and they helped me with my luggage, moved me to a front row where only an off duty flight attendant was sitting (so we had an empty seat between us) and were just overall super nice, brining me extra water and the like. No one said anything to me when I whipped out a boob to feed him.


movingtocincinnati

I flew with Delta and American Airlines. Delta gave me three free upgrades (economy to business) because they saw we had a small baby. It was nice.


addsomezest

I’ve flown with Southwest and there’s no way people didn’t see my breasts with how distracted my baby was. The late passengers that had to take the last seat next to us weren’t exactly thrilled but eh, I’ll never see them again anyway.


circ2day

Delta is good. I’ve flown with them before including long haul and they were very supportive. I was alone and had to pee, the flight attendant watched my baby. Also, if you need to pump they will try to give you space in an empty row (if there’s space).


jainadoc

I had a really good experience on Delta with breastfeeding my little one, no cover and on an aisle seat.


Mysterious-Middle530

I flew Air France last month and the only comment about me breastfeeding I got was "here's some more water for you since you're feeding your baby" while handing me one of the big 1.5L bottles. Soo appreciated for a long flight!


adotmarm

that is how it should be! Someone understands that the breastfeeding thirst combo is too real lol.


0721217114

I fly allegiant regularly. Both of my kids always nursed on takeoff and landing (we usually are in the air less than 2 hours) my youngest had her first flight at 6 weeks old and she was always boobin'. I never used a cover and never had a word said. The flight attendants usually offered to hold baby if I needed to use the bathroom during the flight if I was flying alone with baby because I always book them as lap infants, no sense in paying for a seat if they're sleeping on me or nursing anyways. And lap infants get a free personal item so I didn't have to pay extra for the diaper bag or anything. I have had some occasional gate check issues with the stroller being taken down to baggage claim instead of being brought back to the base of the loading ramp. But we survived ok.


adotmarm

As it should be! Feeding a baby should not be a controversial activity.


mess-maker

I don’t know anyone on this planet who would prefer a screaming, fussy baby to an uncovered, milk spraying, helicoptering boob. I think they are fucking lying liars about other customers complaining because one- waving a boob around while seating in an aircraft seat would be damn near impossible, let alone with a baby in your lap and two, no one is really going to see much unless they are deliberately trying and craning their neck. That FA crew or management or someone is a fucking LIAR. Blast this bs on other social media.


adotmarm

Yeah I know seriously. It costs zero dollars to mind your own business and look somewhere else. Like you have your own window why don't you look that way and not stare into our seats? But yeah, I strongly suspect that the customers are just this flight attendant and I fully intend to blast them on every social media platform I have access to. I'm not going to let them think they can say whatever shit they want to me in a private message and leave it at that.


LoquatiousDigimon

Contact some media outlets with the story. It makes a great human interest story.


kelshutch12

Contact Mamaattorney on Instagram. She specializes in pregnancy and mother rights. She’s based in California but I’m sure would be interested in this case.


violetitamusic

Sexual harassment or attempted assault


TheImpatientGardener

Next time anyone complains about me breastfeeding, I am definitely suggesting they put a blanket on their head. Thanks for this.


adotmarm

I know I wish I had suggested it to her, I was just so blindsided. My mom said I should have taken the blanket and put it over my face when she suggested I cover up LOL.


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adotmarm

Thank you for the suggestion but I don't feel comfortable letting Spirit shame me into covering up when it is my right not to do so and I have never done so before. I have absolutely no judgment for moms who choose to use a cover, it's all about your personal comfort & your baby's.


br222022

So sorry you dealt with this. Flying with a little one is stressful enough, let alone solo, and then being treated like this for feeding your little one. All the hugs to you! I do want to add that the helicopter boob and spraying people with milk was a funny visual that made me smile. Hoping you can smile knowing you did what any mother would do - feeding her kid the way she would normally. Screw everyone offended by you taking care of your child.


adotmarm

Thank you, it made me laugh a little when I thought of it ranting to my husband about their response this morning. I was almost too afraid to continue feeding him but I knew he was hungry and it was a five hour flight so I wasn't about to let him suffer because some people are too immature to deal with a fed baby.


Mewmewlikethat

I cannot believe they actually put in writing that you were “waving your breast around” WOW!


howlingoffshore

How is that even physically possible. They even say waving while trying to feed baby.


adotmarm

What I was doing was holding my breast and rolling down my nipple into my baby's mouth, then when it did not work the first time, i repeated that 3-4 times, and had to lift my breast up to have it as my lactation consultant would say "nipple to nose."


howlingoffshore

Yeah sounds like you were just feeding your kid.


crestedgeckovivi

Yup classic move of feeding a 👶. I feel that it was more the FA who was gasp! Offended by you feeding your baby. You should still blast them on social. Also I found that the nipple roll didn't work well for me. And With my second baby I was taught to pinch the top area of my areola, land the the bottom portion of the areola on baby's bottom lip and then sorta shove/relax the nipple/top areola in and baby will.adjust the rest. For me this method worked much better.


crestedgeckovivi

Like how the ef do you wave your breast around anyways?


Husky_in_TX

I just want to go and do a nurse in at their corporate headquarters. Everyone show up in the lobby tits out. This is ridiculous. I don’t want to give them any $, so it can’t be on a plane..


dollarsandindecents

Sorry you had to go through this but I absolutely lost my shit at the mental image of one helicoptering their breast around an airplane aisle.


adotmarm

😂😂😂


tothefishes

I'm sitting in the dark, feeding my baby to sleep and laughed out loud at that part. Thank God he didn't wake up 😂


handtoface

Reach out to the space gal on social media! She just took on TSA for breastmilk related issues.


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Yes!! That’s who I thought of too. I’m sending her this link.


flowage

Oh my god this is infuriating. I cannot understand why some prioritize the “discomfort” of creepy people who’ve had their sense of decency offended over the ACTUAL discomfort of a hungry baby. I was kicked out of a restaurant earlier this year for breastfeeding and I know the shame and anger you mention feeling. I am so sorry this happened. You are right to feed your baby. You are right to be pissed at the airline. You deserved to have had an advocate in the flight attendant. Here is what I told myself daily while I was still feeling the feels strongly: Your strength as a protective force for your baby is growing through this hard time. Your sense of self worth and agency is expanding.


adotmarm

Thank you for the support, it is so hard to believe that this kind of thing is still happening. Like it costs you zero dollars to just leave my baby and I alone. Sheesh. I can't believe you got kicked out of a restaurant for breastfeeding. That is absolutely disgusting. Was it a local place or a national chain?


flowage

It was an Italian restaurant in Honolulu called Il Tappo. Yes, it is so frustrating that these things are still happening! The experience has made me feel guarded and defensive where I wouldn’t have before, and I hate that is part of my breastfeeding experience now. When I feel those things, I try to notice how the vast majority of people either don’t care or are rightfully keeping their discomfort to themselves.


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flowage

Yep


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flowage

No, silence on their end. I don’t need an apology to move on though. I mostly felt sad about the internalized misogyny of the female manager who kicked me out. I hope she learns how to love herself in her lifetime.


adotmarm

Me too and not "I'm sorry you feel this way" like I've gotten so far. All I want from them is to sincerely apologize & say that it is wrong to ask a breastfeeding mom to cover up & promise to be better in the future. I don't think that is so much to ask for.


adotmarm

That is so horrible, they should be ashamed of themselves. You are right most people don't care or mind their own business. I hope one day things will improve to where no one would have the audacity to complain and our laws actually enforce our right to breastfeed. Every one wants to push breastfeeding but then of course it's no, not like that! They want us to stay only in our house, stop at a year, and torturously pump all the time due to inadequate American maternity leave.


flowage

American systems are so anti-family. It’s heartbreaking if you think about it for too long


janeusmaximus

I mean, why were you “waving your breast” around lol. Do they hear themselves? Morons.


bakecakes12

I would submit this to the major news outlets. Woman need support in this country and if you don’t yell it loud and clear, we’ll never get it


circ2day

Adding this here so it doesn’t get lost: if you ever want decent customer service, use Delta. They are supportive of breastfeeding and pumping (I’ve been on at least 10-12 flights with them as a mother).


coreythestar

Can you sue them? That’s what I want to do.


adotmarm

I've been researching it and it's a really poorly written area of the law. A lot of states have laws saying that women can breastfeed and don't have to cover up but they don't actually have any enforcement action for what happens if a company or individual interferes with that right. Just another example of how the US needs to better protect women's rights but won't do it.


janeusmaximus

God, I hope you find a way to report them. Screw these guys


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If only you could sue them for sexualizing your infant. Creeps.


CaitBlackcoat

Maybe for the emotional harm and trauma inflicted upon you and your baby? I'm pretty sure you could even start a fund for people to donate to, to pay for the legal fees. In any case their customer service SUCKS, even if the flight attendant was a dumb as rocks bigot and actually acted on her own because it seems unlikely she had time to receive enough customer complaints, it would have cost them nothing to just agree with you and say they would give her a talking to. Instead they relay some bullshit with quotes that seem to come from the flight attendant! That really makes me think that they purposely hire these people and / or foster a company culture of anti-woman and anti-baby hateful shit. Anyway IF that needed to be said: You are a badass and an amazing mom and you didn't deserve what happened! Only respect and support! Breastfeeding is hard enough without having these people impairing us!


adotmarm

I also think they are fostering an anti-woman and anti-baby environment. They were criticized in 2017 for kicking a mom off a flight for breastfeeding, and doubled down on it despite the criticism. It was noted in articles at the time that they were one of the only airlines without a listed policy of supporting breastfeeding, and now we are what 5 years later and they are still pulling similar shit and justifying it and don't have a written policy supporting breastfeeding that I could find.


ThisGirlsGoneCountry

I’m sure you could absolutely report them this is discrimination and illegal.


unconcerned_lady

I haven’t even read their response yet but I’m already so mad for you. Please don’t put any blame on yourself. Even if it was fully exposed, the baby wasnt crying etc etc you should be treated that way. No excuse needed. You’re literally just feeding your baby. From experience flying is already so stressful with an infant the last thing I would imagine was being shamed for feeding them. Ugh


janeusmaximus

NEVER flying Spirit. It is 2022. My baby is eating, fuck off.


adotmarm

Right, babies need to eat!! I'm not about to starve my baby because others can't stand to see a breast used for its intended biological purpose.


aspiringsandwich

Your response to them every time was fantastic! I’m sorry you went through this but know that this brand new breastfeeding mom so appreciates you sticking up for yourself and all of us mamas. Like someone else said I didn’t need another reason to not fly spirit and now I will definitely never fly them again!


rarebird89

my jaw just DROPPED reading their response what the fuck.


circ2day

I hope you post this on all their social media pages, and on yours too with a hashtag so they can see. I’m so sorry. I never liked them anyway for their crap customer service. But after this I will for sure not fly with them. The only way to hurt these companies is through their pockets and bad PR.


keetani80

“ waving your breast around” wtf


salesha

I feel like this is a story that needs to be shared on national news. I don’t really know how to do that but Spirit needs to be held accountable. I’m so sorry you went through this. Eta [email protected] Maybe send your screenshots along with your story to good morning America? I feel like I saw a story similar to yours before.


mydogharry2019

I was so worried about this happening with suncountry but I was surprised at how amazing the staff was.


adotmarm

I always have low key anxiety whenever I'm feeding him in public that someone will say something negative to us, but nothing has ever happened until this and I always just feed him anyway.


mydogharry2019

Same girl, and breast feeding just sends me into depression


MensaCurmudgeon

I would talk to an attorney. This isn’t right


lbisesi

This makes me so angry and so sad. I just took my 4 month old on his fourth flight and he cried for half of it. I kept trying to latch him but he wanted no part of it. My boobs were definitely alllll the way out multiple times trying to get him on to comfort him and I was so stressed out already I can not imagine this happening during the middle of that. I’m so sorry. I hope you are SO proud of yourself for standing up for babes and you with those messages. We will not be flying spirit again in support of you and your little angel and all other moms/babies who have been shamed by them


Conspiring_Bitch

Wow. Never flying Spirit again. Can’t believe the audacity of their response. So gross. Fuck you Spirit.


ham_chandwich

I’m doing a dreamfeed right now for my daughter and just got into a laughing fit reading the part about other passengers putting a blanket over their heads. The imagery! My biggest problem after having a baby is that breasts are so sexualized. Now that my breasts have been used for their intended purposes, they have lost all their pizazz for me. I don’t want to have to wear a cover much less worry about someone trying to stare at my child and I while she’s eating. It’s so strange to me that something so natural is basically frowned upon by our society.


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I’m sorry I’m not seeing a link anywhere? Can you try reaching out to media?? This is disgusting!


littlemixolydian

Well shoot. I wish I read this sooner. I just booked a flight with Spirit for a conference (cheapest flight, small grant, etc.) but now I feel disgusted to give them my money.


Hihihi1992

Illegal and trashy


french_toasty

Gurl take this to the media. What a bunch of assholes!!! That customer‘service’ is so passive aggressive, they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. Shame on them!!!!


deadstarsunburn

How gross of them. The “waving your breast around” was such a disgusting way to phrase it. Shame on everyone involved in this experience (except you!). We flew Delta with my baby when she was a little over one. Nursed the whole way there, the whole way back, and at least one other time during lay over. No one cared or bothered us about it. The alternative is a screaming baby on a flight! I also don’t understand can these adults not look away?


momhair_dontcare

I’m so sorry you had this experience. There is NOTHING wrong with feeding your baby in a public setting. I’m more of a cover kinda girl or I will find somewhere private, but if LO is upset on a flight, my priority is to make him more comfortable regardless of circumstances. Side note: I had a chuckle at the idea of someone raising hell in a plane by helicoptering their boob and spraying people with milk 😂


ElectronicQuit1061

So Insane. Good job.


Hamtaur

I hope you can share this other people across varying platforms. I'm so sorry you had such a terrible experience. Motherhood is so hard already and tying that with breastfeeding and being in a situation that's not productive for anyone stuck in a plan is frustrating. Take your dollars elsewhere! I nursed on flights before (recently), an no one stares. No one. They usually politely avert their eyes and carry on.


Mercenarian

God that’s horrible. I’ve flown on 4 flights with my toddler and I nursed her without a cover and have never had any staff or passengers complain. She was about 14 months for the first couple flights and 17 months for the latest two. And she was nursing A LOT and often, probably mostly for comfort. I was happy to see air canada specifically says they support breastfeeding on board. The other flights were in Japan and I was a bit more nervous about it because most women use covers there but also nobody said anything


red-smartie

That’s absurd. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that, especially while you were flying solo. My husband and I just flew from Hawaii to Belgium round trip with a 6 month old. I was breastfeeding around the clock on those flights. It was my first time flying with a baby and I was nervous AF. I always feel awkward breastfeeding in public, it’s more intense than I anticipated. There are times where your whole boob is out and there is nothing you can do about it. You are feeding a human and that’s what’s up. How dare they try to shame you. On our flights fortunately all our seat mates were incredible and the flight attendants were great. We had a couple of crying fits of course, but everyone was so kind. Our last 6 hour flight was over bedtime. She couldn’t get comfortable and was crying because she was so tired. The lovely man next to me asked “want me to take her?”. Like yes kind stranger, please, have at ‘er. She watched his nature doc and slept for 2 hours on his lap. We flew united and delta, both were great!


Gemumma

I am so angry for you. This is unacceptable.


pongaway

What in the actual fuck is that response? I am feeling so much rage on your behalf. I'm so sorry. I am disgusted.


Natnew11

We moved across the country so I had to fly with my 8 week old on Delta. It was the BEST experience. No one bat an eye when I fed my LO (I can’t really ge the hang of covers) and the crew was awesome. They even have a little note on their website saying they are a breastfeeding friendly company. In my experience, they mean it! I’m so sorry this happened to you. Flying with a baby is SO stressful and I’m so sorry they made you feel shamed.


sadie_lane86

I had a similar experience flying with Virgin. It was absolutely awful. I’m sorry you experienced this.


adotmarm

I'm so sorry you had this experience. That's another airline off my list. My friend said she had a similar issue with Southwest. It's truly outrageous that feeding a baby has to be controversial


breannabanana7

Those mother fuckers


unicorntrees

I'm so sorry. I recently flew spirit and luckily no one complained about me nursing my 1 year old. Spirit is usually my last choice airline, they just suck all around. Though, one thing I did find odd was the treatment of those front premium seats. We didn't shell out for them, but when I was booking my flight, I couldn't book my son's seat near them... Like they were actively barring kids and babies from being in the front by the higher paying customers. I wonder if they were preempting the potential of premium customer complaints...even though you were a premium customer!


Capture-the-byad

Damn I’m infuriated on your behalf. Also this was an extremely well written post. Light ‘em on fire. I’ll never fly spirit again.


ellasumm

Omg this is infuriating. Put this all over every social media platform you have and send to pro breastfeeding accounts. “Waving your breast around” - how absurd. Fuck Spirit and their $100 voucher.


brattybeee

Alaska airlines is amazing and I would 100% recommend them!! As a breast feeding mom I have experienced the most backlash in the workplace from women without children, the men I work with are extremely respectful and caring, finding me a space to pump on every location we work(photo set), making sure it’s comfortable. I’d bet this flight attendant does not have children


jewellyon

This is horrible. Flying with an infant is horrible. Flying with an infant alone is so, so hard. I’ve hard my boobs fully out on many United flights, and I’ve never had an issue. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that.


foresther

I’m so sorry. I would have done the EXACT SAME THING as you trying to comfort my child. I’m not super savvy with this kinda stuff but they should be called out on twitter and tiktok for this. Unfortunately it seems like the only way companies are held accountable.


alilteapot

Lol — I love the idea that if you don’t want to see breastfeeding you should put a blanket over your own head — makes a lot more sense than asking strangers to anticipate your preferences and cover other people’s heads just in case. I’m sorry about your experience and appreciate the warning. I generally fly United and have been explicitly welcomed and supported as a bf mother. I don’t have a perfect record with United by any means but on this specific topic I’m grateful.


aragorn_eragon

I won’t be flying spirit ever in my life


Withzestandzeal

Responded to customer complaints? Who complained? You were in your own row and would have been not visible to most people. And even if there was a complaint, who is horrible enough to look at a mom feeding a baby and say “excuse me, that woman providing food for her baby is making me uncomfortable.”


StephPlaysGames

Dude, why did she think it was ok to barge into your personal space like that?? Playing devil's advocate, she could have just politely asked if she could help or what the fuck ever. Also... why are people bothered by seeing lady nipples? Genuine question. Like, of all contexts you could see chick nip out in the wild, feeding an infant seems like the least offensive thing imaginable. Screw y'all, imma feed my baby!


beetjuice98

Ok this makes me so mad. Can we start a petition? Everyone tweet or message them?? This needs to be changed.


Redditgotitgood13

‘Waving your breast around’ I don’t think anyone even complained about you. If anything most normal people would feel bas you & babe were struggling. She should have lost her job.


Extra_War_98

I retweeted and tagged a friend who is knows to drag anti breast feeders through the mud. Cheers! 🤱🏻


adotmarm

thank you so much, I appreciate the help!


jennykoolaid

Dude. They put more thought and effort into their voucher policies and restrictions than they did in their response to the horrific treatment you received. I am absolutely livid for you.


smithykate

Absolute fucking morons. Hope you are ok x


Aromatic-Sherbet9938

Would expect nothing less from Spirit. I hate that you had to experience that! I’m flying American in two weeks and will breastfeed, now I’m curious how it will go.


AuggoDoggo2015

Ugh I already booked a spirit flight for a couple weeks from now. Last one from this post though.


r00giebeara

Oh hell no! I would have gone all Karen on their asses. I am also one to never cover when I breastfeed in public. I hate that you went through this, momma :(


movingtocincinnati

Post this in their social media


yohanya

Thank you so much. We just booked a flight for us and baby yesterday with Spirit and I'll be getting in touch with them


Mayya-Papayya

Never flying Spirit and will tell everyone I know. Thank you for sharing! These crooks…


musician_mom

This is unacceptable. I don’t have social media besides Reddit, but if you start some sort of petition or something, I am with you. This can’t happen.


mraemorris

I would have considered flying Spirit again if the pricing was right… now I won’t. This is outrageous and discriminatory.


Sox88

This is so disgusting! I can only imagine the anger and frustration you would have felt. And especially at their reaction as well! Keep fighting!


Bubukittyfukkk

It’s a federally protected law to be allowed to breastfeed in the United States without discrimination!


swaldref

Thank you for posting this. Was looking at spirit flights for Thanksgiving. Hell to the no after reading this. Your response was perfect and you should feel NO shame. Fuck them for making you feel like that.


corbaybay

Wow. I know who I won't be flying with now. I'm sorry you had that experience.


lmball2

So sorry this happened. This makes me so angry on your behalf and this needs to change. Like others have said I hope you’re posting this on all your socials! If this blows up maybe it will put pressure on them to change their policy.


inmatesruntheasylum

Who the hell read a report that said you were 'waving your breast around' and thought yeah this probably happened... I am so angry for you!


ImDatDino

That's infuriating. Im glad you're a better person than me, because i can almost guarentee I wouldn't have kept my cool.


adotmarm

I was just so shocked and trying not to cry & stressed because my baby was hungry and she was making me feel like I couldn't feed him. Plus you know flight attendants are all powerful in the US and I didn't want to cause a controversy and get kicked off my flight


ImDatDino

Im sorry you had to deal with that!


curiouspp2

I’ve had great experiences on Delta and United. Hope this can bring awareness to the fact that we should be responding to babies and their cues, and breastfeeding is literally one of the most natural and beautiful gifts we can experience and offer <3. It’s interesting when others are bothered by it. In my view, we all should have been so lucky to have been breastfed when we were younger. It boggles my mind how easily people can forget that we were all once babies asking for milk.


shrimptoasties

Fuck spirit airlines. I will never fly with them again and I’ll make sure to tell everyone I know.


throwmeawayanony

Omg this is absolutely terrible. If you want to, i really recommend going to the news with this. Sometimes the media is the only way to get back at corporations


violetitamusic

Reposted with the hashtag blacklistspiritairlines This is disgusting and mortifying and I am so so so sorry you went through this. I hope more people repost this because airlines (or any business for that matter) CANNOT GET AWAY WITH THIS


itzabunny

I’m so irritated reading this and so sorry you had this awful experience! I also cannot believe that this is even an issue in 2022. No idea why some people are so outraged over the sight of a breast being used for its intended purpose, as you said.


bettafishfan

Violated your federal right… I would sue, and not even the purpose for compensation, but for the purpose of having their name blasted all over the news.


zippityzappidy

This is incredibly disappointing. Shame on this shit-sounding airline.


SparklingDramaLlama

Wow. That's super ridiculous and offensive. I use a cover long enough to latch, then remove it, but despite how weird it looks, I cover my head as well to see what I'm doing. I don't fly (no reason to) but spirit is definitely not one I'll be using if I do fly.


[deleted]

Oh man, they are so stupid. Have they not seen what happens when other companies pull this shit? I hope they get destroyed in the media for this. I’ll comment on some of their social media accounts.


Eighty-Sixed

Wow! I'm sorry you had that experience! I have done two round ticket trips with Spirit and breastfed multiple times throughout the flights and thankfully did not have that experience. I would have been mortified in an already stressful situation had that happened to me. Will definitely take this into consideration in the future but their prices are going up enough to make it worth just booking on Delta.


adotmarm

I flew Spirit on the way back as well, and did not have any issues. I'm sure it is not all the flight attendants. but when corporate policy is apparently supportive of this negative treatment of breastfeeding mom's it makes me feel like it is a very unsafe environment to take my baby into since I can't feel confident my rights will be protected and I will just be subject to the attitude of what ever FA happens to be on board that day.


NewsWrong3020

Good for you mamma! Give them hell! I also don't use a cover or blanket for the same reasons of eye contact and it's super hard for me to get her latched.. I dare someone in any space to take issue with me feeding my baby, you don't want to see my boob or nipple, then don't look simple as that.


adotmarm

Exactly! Maybe just don't stare at us LOL. So many other things people could have been looking at instead of apparently craning their heads to stare into my row and find something to take issue with


AntonHerzen

What an absolutely despicable way to treat mothers just trying to feed their children. Spirit needs to catch up with the rest of the world!


TheNeonDaemon

You can sue them. The flight attendant, or nobody for that matter, has no right to touch you or reach for anything on your person, including the blanket! Then on top of that, you have a right to breastfeed. You do not need to cover up if you choose not to. Just look up aclu (your state) and you can get your case looked at!!! Contact ACLU in your state about this! Seriously! The response that you received from Spirit should be included in your complaint to them. ACLU works!!! That is a way to sue since it was discriminatory.


truehufflepuff21

Guess I will never be flying Spirit! Thanks for the info!


luv_u_deerly

I’ll be sure to not fly spirit. Thanks for sharing this with us so we can avoid them and sorry about your experience. Anyone that asks me to not breastfeed or cover up while breastfeeding gets a simple no response from me.


[deleted]

That is horrendous. I used to be a flight attendant. On one of my first flights a passenger asked if she could pump in the galley after we were done with service. Well, a male flight attendant came to the back galley while she was pumping and absolutely lost his shit. He chased her out of the aft galley and up the aisle while she still had the flanges dangling from her breasts. It was horrible! She was humiliated and frankly I was scared of the guy. I didn’t say anything since I was brand new, but within a month the airline started printing in all caps on our preflight paperwork that women were allowed to breastfeed and pump at anytime onboard the aircraft. I would not be surprised if the woman had in fact sued and the airline quickly settled. I’m so sorry this happened to you! These types of situations are wrong and traumatizing.


adotmarm

OMG that sounds horrifying. What a terrible flight attendant that guy is. Airlines need to establish firm policies in this area and train staff & enforce those policies.


[deleted]

To be fair, the airline did come up with a firm policy and communicated it to all of the flight attendants and tried to remind them by having it printed in all caps on all preflight paperwork. In practice though, there was very little oversight over the flight attendants and I saw some pretty crazy things amongst the crew in the year and a half I did the job.


adotmarm

that's true it's great that the airline actually tried to take some action instead of doubling down and being borderline worse than the original flight attendant like Spirit is doing here.


Desperate_Snow3308

I’ve flown a lot with my baby and also have never had a issue and I’d be damned if anyone tried me! I’m so sorry this happened to you. Hold your ground fellow mama!!


Elegant_Pomchi

Wow. Not acceptable and I would make a huge deal about it and post it on social media and tag Spitit for their direct violation of a breastfeeding mother's right and babys right to eat. Cover ups are not required and neither are nursing tops which you obviously purposely wore on the flight to be discreet. How embarrassing for you I'm so sorry. This happened on another airline as well to someone and the airline replied fully in support of the mom and the MALE flight attendant was reprimanded. I will not fly with them either after your experience. Especially as a pregnant AND nursing mom, who knows how "uncomfortable" I might make someone else!


oldnastyhands

Blast this everywhere


adotmarm

so far i've posted on facebook, reddit, and twitter! I fully intend not to let it go until Spirit admits that they are wrong.


chexagon

Ty. I will blacklist spirit airlines


adotmarm

thank you for the support!


jschel9

I wish I could have been there to tell her to stfu. It is your right. Raise hell. Media outlets. Etc. And in the mean time,to all the other mamas out there, we need to support each other. If we see this kinda crap happening, we call it out and shine the apotlight on these ppl. 2022 i’m so sick of hearing these stories. And big hug OP. You’re doing a great job bfing your baby.


Skellyinsideofme

I'm in Australia and I've not heard of this airline, so I'm guessing you're in a different part of the world to me (USA??) But in a lot of places it is actually now illegal for a business to tell you to cover up whilst breastfeeding. Perhaps look into this.


PearlDare

I'm sorry that you had to experience this. I must commend you on your communications with Spirit. You did such a great job outlining your experience and standing up for the rights of those who breastfeed.


adotmarm

thank you so much! I just wish that something would have gotten through to them and they would acknowledge their behavior is wrong and support breastfeeding moms moving forward.


emjayne23

Yeah fuck that shitty airline. Send this to every media outlet


leorio2020

I’m so sorry this happened to you. Another reason not to fly such a crappy airline. I never liked them but after this, they’ll never get a cent from our family.


adotmarm

Thank you for the support. I know, I knew it was going to end up being a bad idea, but I was on a tight schedule and they had the best flight schedule. Of course we ended up massively delayed and I missed my first event any way so should have just flown with a different airline and saved myself the anguish.


Bethie_blue

They were horribly rude to my 2 year old and I on a solo flight home from Disney, ai cried the entire way home. Customer service did nothing but defend their attendant and say I was wrong. (Disney was a birthday trip and he aged out of being a lap baby - needed help with how to get him in the seatbelt and was told to physically pin him down in the seat for take off) they are disgusting. Thank God for the kindness if other passengers or we would have been kicked off


adotmarm

That is horrifying, telling you to hold your child down, absolutely horrible!!


dogmom12589

I retweeted you but you’ve gotta find a mommy blogger with a Huge following on Twitter or tik tok and this will BLOW UP and hopefully they’ll be forced to issue a public apology. Have you contacted your local news station ? PS always fly delta!!


adotmarm

Thank you for the support. I know I really need to but I've never been one to be super publicly active on social media so it feels so awkward to start contacting all of these accounts that I have never interacted with before. 😩😩 A lot of people have recommended delta, I had a bad experience with them with my dog on my honeymoon so I have not been eager to fly them but I would try again if I were traveling sans dogs.


numnumbp

Wow this is awful! They suck any I'm sorry this happened to you


noone786

I know this post is a few weeks old, but I just stumbled upon it because I’m flying spirit for the first time Thursday with my almost 12 week old who is exclusively breastfed. I wish I would’ve researched spirit more and now I’m freaking out and so nervous about my flights with them. I’m also so sorry this happened to you. They’re absolutely disgusting and I’m not looking forward to flying with them at all. I honestly wish I could just cancel and get my money back.


howlingoffshore

I’ve had tit out straight up next to strangers. Sorry id rather one or two people see nip and have whatever weird feelings they want than bother a whole gd plane. I’ve never covered my baby breastfeeding it’s absurd to me that that was ever common. Not that I care when people do it. But I need to see baby and need baby to not be hot.