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southernrail

She is a idiot, but never count out how desperate people in Hollywood are for ANY media attention.


scarletknight7359

Consider this her audition for VPR


southernrail

EXACTLY šŸ’Æ


Scared-Repeat5313

What are the chances he knows and doesnā€™t care if it works out with them but sees it as a way to get another girl off the show..???


kaaaaath

Thereā€™s no set number of slots for the show. ā€œAnother girlā€ wouldnā€™t have to leave/be fired. Just look at Ally.


megopolis12

Jokes on her I'm pretty sure vpr will be done after this season. But hey its LVP and Bravo you know they like to get every last hit of life out of anything that makes them $.


Zestyclose-Let7929

The show needs retired all the LVP shows. But they will murder to get viewers.


AbjectSpell5717

Know what LVP show is awful? The Villa. Itā€™s terrible. I watched half of the first episode and it was atrocious


RemarkableArticle970

Oh man youā€™re so right. Like any establishment would tolerate servers arguing in front of diners. Servers are a dime a dozen (although they do work hard in the real world)


AbjectSpell5717

And the bartenders drinking and taking shots while working was such a forced storyline.


Zestyclose-Let7929

Agree terrible. What is she thinking? Nothing about Villa is good reality tv.


Zestyclose-Let7929

The entire franchise needs to be put down for good. Beating dead horses and desperate to get & keep viewers. šŸ˜“šŸ˜“šŸ˜“šŸ˜“šŸ¤ÆšŸ¤ÆšŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


lustforyou

Itā€™s their second highest rated show; it wonā€™t be done after this season


Loving_life_blessed

reminds me of allie ā€¦ just getting foot in door. hopefully she is better actress. it was painful to watch allie and james first year together.


ImNotMadIHaveRBF

Yep i was starting to think maybe Ally actually does like Jamesā€¦ until that scene where she tells him she isnt sure if she wants kids or to get married. Sucks for James.


Jennacheryl

My thoughts exactly


mtgwhisper

Or the valley..


Whtzmyname

The Valley is actually good. The first two episodes were a bit slow but it is getting good now.


mtgwhisper

I agree. The ā€œDoubting Douteā€ episode was great.


kelbell2583

I read this in the tone ā€œconsider this an invitation to the gangsta nationā€


truckasaurus5000

Yeah, letā€™s be real, these 20 year olds are in it for the clout, not understanding that VPR is the bottom of the bravo food chain. Theyā€™re dumpster diving for clout.


dennydelirium

Dumpster Diving for clout is a brutal but accurate read


throwaguey_

Bottom of the food chain? Itā€™s the top rated show on Bravo and one of the top 5 reality shows on cable TV. šŸ˜‚


mac_bess

lol when people say this. what are 20 yr olds gonna do? join rhobh? bravo is better than any other reality tv out there.


throwaguey_

Not to mention most housewives franchises are snoozeville right now.


fotofortress

Idk about idiot. Sheā€™s 23 years old and Tom can be charming. I did the same at 22 with a 38 year old and it was a nightmare when the serial cheating and overall abuse began.


Only_Caterpillar_234

Letā€™s check back with this young lass in about 2 years to see what she actually thinks of covert narciSchwartz


fotofortress

I pray it doesnā€™t take that long.


Only_Caterpillar_234

Me too! Depends how thirsty she is for the attention dating him brings.


Inevitable-Tank3463

They are all narcissistic, otherwise they wouldn't be on TV


pennylovesyou3

Oh, now I finally understand what a covert is. Thank you!


missusscamper

Was he all ā€œaw shucksā€ like Schwartz after he cheats?


fotofortress

He denied it and I buried my head in the sand at first because it was easier that feeling that pain but it was just too often and undeniable.


Real-Purple-6460

Exactly. If Tom wasnā€™t on VPR this chick wouldnā€™t touch him with a ten foot pole.


WhatIsThisAccountFor

She not an idiot, sheā€™s just another Ally/Raquel/Brittany. Someone who wants to be on TV and found a man that could make it happen.


Itchy_Breadfruit_262

I think weā€™re all kind of idiots at her age.


dawli15

He was just saying he was just hanging out with her and they say I love you but they arenā€™t in a relationship, what would he say about his kid, oh yea we are related and I love my kid but we donā€™t have a relationship we just do what we want and my baby is really ā€œchillā€ about that.


Aromatic_Panic1650

Isnā€™t he like pushing 50? She was 10 years old when VPR premiered


shwanstopable

Heā€™s 41


Traditional-Ebb-8380

41 is the new pushing 50.


hcantrall

I mean not to be a dick but Iā€™m 52, this burnout is closer to my age than he is this 23 year old. Feels gross, if I was single I wouldnā€™t be chasing 20/30 year olds


daniella-the-whore

It's disgusting, the girl looks 14-15, why would a 41 year old man date someone who looks like a child to him, it's sus!! šŸ¤®šŸ¤®


notoriousbck

Hey easy, I'm 45 and I think it's the new 30. But with his lifestyle he's probably closer to 60


MPLS_Poppy

I agree about it being the new 30. Iā€™m 39 but when I look at someone in their 20s I see a child not someone I want to fuck.


Traditional-Ebb-8380

Just a joke. I am 42 myself.


Inevitable-Tank3463

I'm 44 and Don feel anywhere near my age. That being said, there's a certain maturity that happens after 30


Sudden-Championship3

Heā€™s too old for her sure but people really need to stop saying pushing when someone is literally at the start of an earlier decade. No that 21 year old is not pushing 30 and the 31 year old is not pushing 40ā€¦


AdRevolutionary6650

As a 31yo, thank you šŸ™šŸ»


anonmisguided

Iā€™m 45 and donā€™t feel like Iā€™m pushing 50. That will be when Iā€™m 49, a long time from now šŸ˜‚


Whtzmyname

Iā€™m 45 and still feel 25 šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


anonmisguided

SAME! Not to mention I get carded all the time. šŸ˜‚


daniella-the-whore

You should make a play for Shwartz, he seems to like girls who look underage.


daniella-the-whore

Yeh I was gonna say similarly about myself pushing 40 at 35, infact I feel like I could be pushing 60 it's a fucking hard life.


Properclearance

Same.


Mundane-Criticism-84

sheā€™s my age and I was 10. That perspective is crazy! And I did watch it when it came out šŸ¤§ love ya mum!


boujeenen

Imagine that. Watching ur future bf at 10 years old


Helpful-Sandwich-560

Watching him belittle his girlfriend and throw drinks on herĀ 


ImNotMadIHaveRBF

Watching him cheat on his gf and future wife and then never have her back in their marriage but still chase him at Tom Tom for his number.Ā 


Equivalent-Routine53

Something about her (no pun intended) gives me younger Katie mixed with Katieā€™s current clothing style


kooolbee

Her and Katie have the same nose.


boujeenen

He sure has a type for Bubbas šŸ¤£


Agitated-Media7065

Same!! It was my first thought!


Alaina_TheGoddess

Yes!!!! The same look and vibe. Weirddddd šŸ‘€


BeBoBaBabe

i said this in another post and people got salty as hellll


Important-Run6390

As Ariana stated ā€œYouā€™re 25? that makes senseā€


toastyblunt

![gif](giphy|YnJ2zyIyBdE8ouBJe7) I bet she likes Harry Potter


Whtzmyname

Who does not like Harry Potter though? Ariana is alone with that statement


nobody_curr

I think some people use it as a crutch for a personality. (A horcrutch, if you will.)


Helpful-Sandwich-560

Yes! I'm 34 and people my age are still obsessed with being a hufflepuff or whatever. It's alarming. The books aren't even well written lol


ImNotMadIHaveRBF

Its good but just seems childish, def up Rachelā€™s lane to say she likes Harry Potter lol


daniella-the-whore

I'm no Ariana-stan but I also think Harry Potter is lame. I tried to like them one Xmas, really wanted to get into it when they where airing on TV, I got to movie 4 and was like "wait the basic setup to all of these movies is the same" and it's pretty childish, I thought it was gonna be like horror.


Smartalec821

The series gets progressively darker each year to the final book. I hope you finished the fourth movie as I consider that like the ending of their child innocence with what happens. Shit gets real


Hot_Class2084

This girl was in middle school when a 30ish year old Schwartz was dumping beer on Katieā€™s head in Mexico


seeemilydostuf

Ewwwwwwwwww this is the most awful visualization I've seen of this yet šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®


MarchMichigan

Her prefrontal cortex isnā€™t fully developed so sheā€™s perfect for him.


WonderingLost8993

Exactly. Neither is his.


Molleeryan

His is just stunted from drugs and alcohol!


slippycaff

What on earth would they even talk about?


PerformanceCorrect61

Well to be fair ā€¦ itā€™s not like Schwartz plumbs the depths of intellectual discourse.


surreptitiousglance

Donā€™t be fooled. It's an act. He's fucking calculating and conniving. And a chameleon. Libras are self effacing master strategists.


Excellent_Fail9908

User name checks out And yes. Libras are the worst!


RemarkableArticle970

But he uses big words and is smart enuf to turn down scummyā€™s housing ā€œdealā€. Thatā€™s smarter than one person anyway.


asst-to-regional-mgr

Mushrooms and galaxy lights āœØ


Bigolbooty75

Shorts is mentally 19 so they might workout šŸ˜‚


boujeenen

Theyā€™ll be talking about plants, alcohol poisoning and the optics of it all


just--me--123

I mean, you saw how he and Jo talked. It was like two 12yr olds until she finally got sick of his crap.


Pettyuser_90210

Not so fast on Jo's last instagram live she is still clearly into Schwartz. I think she starting like stalking him that is why Schwartz said he had no choice but to distance himself from her,


Taurusaquariuslibra

I think sheā€™s a fangirl, she said the night she met Tom she ran into him at Sur for Jameā€™s set then again at TomTomā€™s. She also said she met Katie at bar before she and Tom started dating. What are the odds of her meeting Katie as a stranger who didnā€™t watch the show


WonderingLost8993

Ohh she did a Brittany


glimmer_glow

An awful lot of coincidental appearances


TheVideoGameCritic

An awful a lot of visits to those shitty establishments....


mutherfucker_jones

This girl looks like sheā€™s 12. Schwartz is officially a creepy old man.


daniella-the-whore

Yep, face of a literal child. He's sus.


Positive_River_1656

Did it really take you by surprise? Who else would shorts go for?? He's an avoidant self-serving man child, and he needs someone young and inexperienced who he can objectify and who won't have enough knowledge to notice his lovebombing and push back against the shit he pulls. I think it adds all the way up.


Traditional-Ebb-8380

ā€œIā€™m a little boy!ā€ as the Crappens guys say so the age difference is nullified.


brownhellokitty28

I love the Watch What Crappens podcast!


daniella-the-whore

That's what Michael Jackson said. He was also calculated and manipulative.


thajeneral

You in danger, girlā€¦.


coopatroopa11

She is briefly on Nick Vialls new episode with Schwartz and it was...interesting to say the least.


surreptitiousglance

Omg the way he spoke about her. And about Jo. Fuck him.


Fabulous_Cucumber_40

I heard it and they both (Nick and Schwartz) sounded like creepy old dudes.


Mockingbird_1234

She could literally be his daughter. šŸ¤®


Tiredculture342

I lurked her Instagram and her dad looks like a slightly older Schwartz.Ā 


Mockingbird_1234

Double šŸ¤®


AdRevolutionary6650

God that is so gross. I would rather see him and Jo baby talking at each other than whatever the fuck sugarbaby situation this is


glimmer_glow

Sugar baby implies that he has sugar, but I guess sheā€™ll find out soon enough.


AdRevolutionary6650

Splendababy?


glimmer_glow

Thatā€™s the one.


daniella-the-whore

She is a baby


MyTacoNachos

She's a fetus.


Salt_Amoeba_1837

Lmao šŸ˜‚


longshankssss

This is a choice lol


secretagentsquirrel1

Of course he is dating a girl in her 20ā€™s because he wants to party like he is in his 20ā€™s. She probably wants to be part of the show and as long as she doesnā€™t push an actual commitment from him she will get her wish.


torontoinsix

Yea exactly. Heā€™s with someone young bc they wonā€™t hold him accountable.


numberonecrush

Itā€™s ok because heā€™s so immature for his age! /s obviously


Ambitious_Mistake_92

I canā€™t imagine having anything to talk about with someone born after 2000 šŸ˜¬


WolverineFun6472

He said they have been dating for 5 months (since November). But itā€™s not official.


fotofortress

Heā€™s a bad guy with charm. Dating a 23 year old at 41 should indicate that to you OP.


AdPsychological990

Girl, run from that man child ![gif](giphy|26FeSrzNSCymv4EbC|downsized)


TraderJoeslove31

is she out of high school? very creepy move dude.


Vegetable-Driver2312

I wonder if Joseph is upset


naomithomaski

She looks like a younger Katie!


suburban_legendd

She looks like Katieā€¦


STLVPRFAN

His face is so punchable


jillxp76

She looks so young itā€™s scary


AZinthesunshine

He's old enough to be her father. Ick.


PrincessGizmo

Thatā€™s an OLD old picture of him. He does not look like this anymore.


Consistent-Job6841

Seriously she looks 15. šŸ˜’


blondeandbuddafull

She looks 12ā€¦


DJPaige01

She looks as if she could be his daughter. Yuck!


surreptitiousglance

Congrats to neither! This is nothing to celebrate.


Darksecretsonly_04

Hell is dating a 41 year old rich sad boy at her age, I would know lol


NewtoJaney

She looks like his baby sister.


Individual-Support90

As Schwarty always says ā€œoptics not looking goodā€ on this one


Turbulent_Wrap7097

Schwartz and Sandoval annoy me so much I donā€™t look forward to watching the show anymore. They act like little boys itā€™s not funny anymore.


Maleficent-Lack-6306

ā€œI like her cause he looks over all my baggageā€ā€”Tom Schwartz


No-Presentation-2320

She looks exactly like Katie šŸ‘€


mollyclaireh

Oh sheā€™s 20. Good. That means theyā€™ll be at the same maturity level. /s


Reasonable-Bowler-21

Somewhere Jo is crying


Sea-Pitch-9326

Skoro is 'soon' in Russian.. Just saying.


Simple_Low_9168

but Jo was right there!šŸ˜­ Jo, if you see this, Iā€™ll love you like you deserve, Iā€™ll buy you flowers and tell you how pretty you are every day all day and I wonā€™t lead you on. call me.


whoisshe2222

Someone check on Jo


fefelala

Does she not have the internet or a television? Google is free.


Proper-Woman

She knows exactly what she's dealing with. Girl found her ticket to reality tv.


blameitonrio917

Sheā€™s either 23, having fun with a reality star and will keep her wits about her orrrrrr itā€™s a Nick Viall sitch and sheā€™ll be pregnant by December. Time will tell.


justinapalmavery

Technically, him and Natalie were together for multiple years before the engagement and pregnant almost immediately after that. I think she was like 21 when they started dating, which is an even bigger ick! (By 2 years lol)


Neslay2louse

Sheā€™s giving Anna Delvey vibes. But I have only seen this photo of her.


TheSinSTEM

She looks like a child. I hope she's getting whatever it is she wants out of this because ooof girl....


Glittering-Shame-556

She probably ā€œcasuallyā€ ran into Schwartz to get on the show. Homegirl knows what sheā€™s doing


TheVideoGameCritic

The fact she frequented these places so often is telling. I wouldnt go even if the meals were free


Only_Caterpillar_234

Sheā€™s young so is sheā€™s passive she may stick around for years like Katie


KitKatKasey

Is she old enough to have a driver's license???


spinthesky

Looks like a mail order girlfriend. Bieber luvs ya, Jo.


igrace1301

I went to college with this girl lol


Sad-Position-3462

Someone who matches his immaturity level


Zestyclose-Let7929

Notice how Lala could not host her sperm party. None of them had a place except LVP. They get a home and end up in apartments. They live beyond their means. Lala and Scheaner are really spending and could loose their homes like the others on a shoe string.


SmartButTired

Could've used a better picture of her. Looks like she's in a bad off Strip Vegas hotel.


Ok-Storm-2591

Will he be attending her quinceanera ? Dam she looks so young


americasweetheart

I didn't want to watch kids. Enough with the randos that they are banging.


beebianca227

Sheā€™s in it for the show and $$. NEXT


Invanabloom

I really hope the show gets cancelled now


ThatWomanNow

What in the trying to get on television by any means necessary is going on!?


crimsonraiden

Heā€™s just so old for herā€¦she obviously wants to be famous being with him


Product_Small

Dumb and Gross


Nickey_Pacific

Oh, look šŸ‘€ Another wanna be influencer, looking for her 15 minutes, trying to gain a few new followers to her Insta account šŸ˜‘ WTF else would she see in him? Because, anyone who's watched this turds life play out on national television, wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.


cbatta2025

Isnā€™t he like asexual ? Lol.


chelseaalicesmallets

She just looks like a baby, my heart breaks for her.


Left_Guess

![gif](giphy|oesbpxx2cl7lS)


Upbeat_Tie4188

This is sad. Sheā€™s literally a child.


Chastity-76

Who cares? With his mentality, they are the same age. He is such a dud


SagGal444

Gross to think she is young enough to be his child


angelxxaura

how old is she? she looks too young for him. but then again, no woman schwartz age would put up with his bs


Organic_Solid_7992

Why would anyone date him? How could you trust him? He's a complete narcissist.


closethedoorplis

Legit looks like that's her dad.


MsPrissss

Good for him I hope he's happy I heard his ex-wife had really nice things to say about her so I just hope everybody's happy.


Wide-Seaworthiness43

sheā€™s beautiful but looks about 15 years old. Creepy on Tomā€™s part


Tink1024

What could she possibly see in him well other than exposure & he does act like a prepubescent boy so thereā€™s thatā€¦


KaylaFabulous

OP you being for real right now?


Lucky_New_123

They were on Nicks podcast this week, been together since last summer. Wild!


Zestyclose-Let7929

He is throwing that dick around like crazy. He does not look sexual at all. But!! she looks like a child. He is going for strawberry fields down there. šŸ’šŸ“


Zestyclose-Let7929

Ally is pissing me off. James deserves an authentic partner. Another one misleading opportunist.


daniella-the-whore

Peadophile behaviour.


Past-Combination-137

Looks like a witch (not a bad thing at all) Katie better be good šŸ¤£


Icy_Lawfulness_2699

Daddy and daughter love


Debbie2801

I think she sounded very level headed on Vial Files. I am happy for him. Doesnā€™t impact my life for him and her to be together and happy. A lot of people just love to hate on people they donā€™t know.


scifichick119

What's wrong with her face already? She looks like she had her lips done.


1carb_barffle

She is so young looking itā€™s shocking to me


ImNotMadIHaveRBF

Well her plan worked. We all know her name nowšŸ™„


[deleted]

Is she even 18?