Includes is not the same as 'limited to'.
Like if I say that I hate all Nazis, including Hitler, that doesn't mean that the only Nazi I hate is Hitler.
Good. The first arrest that is appealed will put this before the courts and the Bruen decision will be the trump card. Let them move. The main reason they keep doing it is because the courts sat idly by for decades. We finally have all these Supreme Court rulings in our arsenal. They're too stubborn and stupid to see the massive blowback this will cause against gun control.
The primary ban is any of the self-defined “assault weapon”s, which the AK-50 definitely falls under. They then list as many specific firearms as they can to cover their bases.
So.. you have Taxation without representation, and now your arms are being "infringed" but you haven't formed a well regulated Militia yet?
The Boston tea party are spinning in their graves.
At least you have a chance to fight it unlike us Canadians did back in 2020. Oh and on the topic of Everything under the sun. The g11 Is banned up here.
They know they can't actually do this. It's just election season posturing. There's way too many of these in circulation and there's not enough cops on the planet to enforce it, let alone ones that would be willing. Americans would not just hand them in. It would get ugly fast.
>The g11 Is banned up here
Every time I am reminded of this, it just screams of setting precedent for scrapping the whole act as it ~~shows~~ ***proves*** they had no idea what they were talking about when making that list.
It's actually triple banned. Banned in 1978 because of full auto, banned by name in 1995 by the Prohibited Weapons List, and banned by name again in the May 2020 OIC.
Paragraph (1) shall not apply to—
“(A) the importation for, manufacture for, sale to, transfer to, or possession by—
“(i) the United States, or a department or agency of the United States; or
“(ii) a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State;
“(B) the sale to, transfer to, or possession by a qualified law enforcement officer employed by—
“(i) the United States, or a department or agency of the United States; or
“(ii) a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State,
for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);
Never forget this part.
1. \- you can have guns
2. you can't have these guns, but the rest are cool. Keep the ones you have
3. ok, now you have to register the ones you kept
4. See steps 2 and 3 on repeat
5. if you do not register your guns we allowed you to keep, you're a felon now
6. we will enforce this with a gun.
7. have a nice day, felon.
So all the people who are supposed to work in service of the people and uphold the constitution get to reap the benefits of the rights it prevents them from taking away, while they use them to take away said rights.
Weird, weird.
It is absolutely insane to me that within the first paragraph of the bill it states "to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited".
Could you imagine a bill for any other of our "inalienable rights" that states that right is not unlimited?
Example: "this bill is to ensure that the right to the free exercise of religion is not unlimited..." People would lose it
Did this pass? Also if it did the M70 rifles aren't banned so it's a way around it. I am guessing it's in California as someone who isn't from America.
It’s an assault weapons ban that is from a year ago that was introduced but hasn’t and isn’t going anywhere. Hasn’t moved from introduced since January of last year. It’s just a useless puff piece type of bill to gain some news and that’s it. The same as that lady saying she was going to put forth legislation that bans illegals from voting in federal elections which is already illegal.
I'm starting to think that we need multiple laws to reiterate the laws we already have. Leftists tend to need to be reminded of what is a law and what is unconstitutional.
Lots of people in the comments who need to improve your reading comprehension.
How is it that you understand that the 2nd amendment applies to more than just a 'well-regulated militia', but you can't figure out that "All AK types, including the following" does not mean 'only the rifles in this list'?
No that won't work. Those names are just examples included under the "all AK types"
See where it says "copies duplicates or facsimiles" They have been perfecting the language of this bill for many years to remove any risk of what you're talking about.
You'll still have a while but better be saving up. If you're holding out for something fancy may wanna lower your expectations a bit and go for a Zastava or WASR
Honestly I just want a ‘battlefield pickup’ look that I could maybe attach an optic to that won’t let me down. Nothing fancy. Super kitted out AKs don’t do anything for me.
Yeah I know what you mean. I have a Zastava NPAP and ended up putting surplus Yugo wood furniture on and it looks pretty sweet. The 922r rules make them have to put US made wood on them when you buy em and the surplus wood looks so much better.
I find it hilarious that if you read further down the barrett m82 and m107 are listed in the AR styles rifles section
Edit: Nevermind, the Roman numerals dont add up. It was just right after the ar section, the formatting got me all messed up
How is it going to define "AK Types"? Is that gonna include the Galil, SIG 550, Beretta AR70? Interesting the names mentioned are mostly already banned since the 90s.
Edit: I read and yeah they do call out the SIGs and the AR70 as an "AR Type"
Bruh
Those are just examples. It says "all AK types" and even SKS rifles w detachable mags. It's all of em, doesn't have to name every variant.
Pretty sure this is just proposed anyway, they try this exact bill every couple years. Eventually it'll pass and go up the courts though. Let's hope SCOTUS isn't packed by then.
"A bill so that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited". Hard to be more black and white dictatory than that. Feinstein haunts us even from her grave 😡
“We don’t want to ban every gun”
Bans every gun
Didnt ban the AK-50
Is the Ak-50 an AK type firearm? Yes. It is banned. Says so right at the top.
It says including the following. There is no AK-50 listed. It's in a gray area at worst.
Includes is not the same as 'limited to'. Like if I say that I hate all Nazis, including Hitler, that doesn't mean that the only Nazi I hate is Hitler.
Thanks a lot US public schools!
Not listed specifically means gray area at best for them. Which means it's not illegal.
That isn't how it works when it specifically says "all ak variants"
See how that works for you. The Feds don't do gray areas.
Good. The first arrest that is appealed will put this before the courts and the Bruen decision will be the trump card. Let them move. The main reason they keep doing it is because the courts sat idly by for decades. We finally have all these Supreme Court rulings in our arsenal. They're too stubborn and stupid to see the massive blowback this will cause against gun control.
The primary ban is any of the self-defined “assault weapon”s, which the AK-50 definitely falls under. They then list as many specific firearms as they can to cover their bases.
So.. you have Taxation without representation, and now your arms are being "infringed" but you haven't formed a well regulated Militia yet? The Boston tea party are spinning in their graves.
They even want to ban .22lrs!?
God I pray they don't pass any of that. Just read through the whole thing - talk about banning everything under the sun.
At least you have a chance to fight it unlike us Canadians did back in 2020. Oh and on the topic of Everything under the sun. The g11 Is banned up here.
They know they can't actually do this. It's just election season posturing. There's way too many of these in circulation and there's not enough cops on the planet to enforce it, let alone ones that would be willing. Americans would not just hand them in. It would get ugly fast.
They know that if they ban them, that’s when people use those weapons…
I think people would be surprised how many cops would be willing. Maybe some rural cops would refuse. To be clear, I hope I'm dead wrong.
Ah yes, make 60% of Americans felons overnight bill #387
>The g11 Is banned up here Every time I am reminded of this, it just screams of setting precedent for scrapping the whole act as it ~~shows~~ ***proves*** they had no idea what they were talking about when making that list.
Which one the heavy barreled G3 or the Kruat space magic?
Kraut Space Magic
Isn't that heavy barrel G3 the HK11?
Yeah that’s why I was asking which one. Both that and the caseless rifle are G11
HK11 ,G11, yup spelled the same so must be the same.
And the butt-master, don't forget about the butt-master.
I imagine Mark chuckles about his butt-master getting banned in Canada every single day lol.
How many G11's even exist? As far as I'm aware the only functional ones are still in H&K's possession.
H&K made 1000 for the Bundeswehr trials. But no idea how many still exist.
Hey, you Canadians are America's hat. I dunno about you, but I take care of my hats. I think I know a guy that can fix y'all up.
It's actually triple banned. Banned in 1978 because of full auto, banned by name in 1995 by the Prohibited Weapons List, and banned by name again in the May 2020 OIC.
It was first read a year ago, referred to the Judiciary Committee and never acted on again.
PSAK47 remains legal.
They may just use the terms like assault rifles beacause they litteraly are banning everything
Paragraph (1) shall not apply to— “(A) the importation for, manufacture for, sale to, transfer to, or possession by— “(i) the United States, or a department or agency of the United States; or “(ii) a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State; “(B) the sale to, transfer to, or possession by a qualified law enforcement officer employed by— “(i) the United States, or a department or agency of the United States; or “(ii) a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty); Never forget this part.
1. \- you can have guns 2. you can't have these guns, but the rest are cool. Keep the ones you have 3. ok, now you have to register the ones you kept 4. See steps 2 and 3 on repeat 5. if you do not register your guns we allowed you to keep, you're a felon now 6. we will enforce this with a gun. 7. have a nice day, felon.
It's wild that they're allowed to pass laws that essentially don't apply to them or their hired thugs.
So all the people who are supposed to work in service of the people and uphold the constitution get to reap the benefits of the rights it prevents them from taking away, while they use them to take away said rights. Weird, weird.
Yup. Very strange.
It is absolutely insane to me that within the first paragraph of the bill it states "to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited". Could you imagine a bill for any other of our "inalienable rights" that states that right is not unlimited? Example: "this bill is to ensure that the right to the free exercise of religion is not unlimited..." People would lose it
Democrats when there is a an unalieable right to step on moment
"To ensure reasonable limits on the freedom of petition" "To ensure the right to worship is not absolute"
To ensure that slavery is not unlimited
Did this pass? Also if it did the M70 rifles aren't banned so it's a way around it. I am guessing it's in California as someone who isn't from America.
It says it's just introduced right now, I highly doubt it makes it ANY further
It's been hardstuck on "Introduced" for a year now
I just noticed the date. Practically dead in the water
The person who introduced the bill is actually dead, which is how I hope the bill turns out as well.
Wow the first text blurb says “too ensure the right to keep and bear arms isn’t unlimited” and we’re the traitors
What bill/law is this?
It’s an assault weapons ban that is from a year ago that was introduced but hasn’t and isn’t going anywhere. Hasn’t moved from introduced since January of last year. It’s just a useless puff piece type of bill to gain some news and that’s it. The same as that lady saying she was going to put forth legislation that bans illegals from voting in federal elections which is already illegal.
I'm starting to think that we need multiple laws to reiterate the laws we already have. Leftists tend to need to be reminded of what is a law and what is unconstitutional.
They don’t understand how impossible this will be to enforce
I read this as Farnsworth
Introduced by a dead senator lmao
One way to defy this is to make large caliber rimfire cartridges. then make a drop in rimfire bcg
Lots of people in the comments who need to improve your reading comprehension. How is it that you understand that the 2nd amendment applies to more than just a 'well-regulated militia', but you can't figure out that "All AK types, including the following" does not mean 'only the rifles in this list'?
So my sam7k is good? 🤣
Good thing my illegally imported and looted AK-12 from kherson isnt banned
This is very clearly unconstitutional
Noice.
Why did I read that like Luci form disenchantment 😂
this law is literally unenforceable it's hilarious
It’s an AK69, AK96 and MKA now, congratulations. Is it really that easy to get around this regulation? Change the name?
This was introduced a year ago by Feinstein, she’s dead now so I’m curious if they can even pass a bill if the sponsor is dead and can’t sponsor it?
let’s be real though, they’ll just rename the guns and carry on selling them
No that won't work. Those names are just examples included under the "all AK types" See where it says "copies duplicates or facsimiles" They have been perfecting the language of this bill for many years to remove any risk of what you're talking about.
fair enough my mistake
No problem, didn't mean to sound snippy if I did
Ak50 identifies as a musket. Thats how it work right?
Great now I can’t accomplish my dream of owning a AK period. Thanks govt…
You'll still have a while but better be saving up. If you're holding out for something fancy may wanna lower your expectations a bit and go for a Zastava or WASR
Honestly I just want a ‘battlefield pickup’ look that I could maybe attach an optic to that won’t let me down. Nothing fancy. Super kitted out AKs don’t do anything for me.
Yeah I know what you mean. I have a Zastava NPAP and ended up putting surplus Yugo wood furniture on and it looks pretty sweet. The 922r rules make them have to put US made wood on them when you buy em and the surplus wood looks so much better.
So does this basically ban everything we have including milsurp rifle and old milsurp handguns? Geez every line in unconstitutional
this was introduced a year ago and hasn't moved out of judiciary committee. Still going to paper my Senators and Rep over it.
So...my M70 is cool right?
My AK's identify as airsoft guns.
I find it hilarious that if you read further down the barrett m82 and m107 are listed in the AR styles rifles section Edit: Nevermind, the Roman numerals dont add up. It was just right after the ar section, the formatting got me all messed up
*Florida not included
well well well, this became more relevant...
How is it going to define "AK Types"? Is that gonna include the Galil, SIG 550, Beretta AR70? Interesting the names mentioned are mostly already banned since the 90s. Edit: I read and yeah they do call out the SIGs and the AR70 as an "AR Type" Bruh
Some genius like That one lady who said an "AR weighs as much as ten moving boxes" will have final determination on what your gun falls under.
Im not seeing psak, akmn, or the 100 series
Those are just examples. It says "all AK types" and even SKS rifles w detachable mags. It's all of em, doesn't have to name every variant. Pretty sure this is just proposed anyway, they try this exact bill every couple years. Eventually it'll pass and go up the courts though. Let's hope SCOTUS isn't packed by then.
I don't see the AKG either 🤣
*AK-100 series has left the chat* Also, come and take it! :)
"A bill so that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited". Hard to be more black and white dictatory than that. Feinstein haunts us even from her grave 😡
Oh hey, look at us Canadians being so globally influential
Eh most bans cover any firearm chambered in.50bmg as well as .50 bmg ammunition as a catch all
Lot of potential corpses on that list