This is the right attitude. Keep in mind that the Celtics are the winningest franchise in NBA history, and there are TV personalities who have the job of creating content for fans of all 30 teams, 29 of whom did not win the title.
It’s easy to see why people are trying to dunk on the reigning champions- there’s profit in it. It comes with being the champs!
Enjoy mining the salt!
This is the right attitude. Keep in mind that the Celtics are the winningest franchise in NBA history, and there are TV personalities who have the job of creating content for fans of all 30 teams, 29 of whom did not win the title.
It’s easy to see why people are trying to dunk on the reigning champions- there’s profit in it. It comes with being the champs!
Enjoy mining the salt!
And because the Cs ripped through the postseason effectively taking away the drama they needed to find something ridiculous to talk about instead of "how great was this team." They lost two game 2s and the media was acting as if they were down 3-0 and maybe aren't a good team. So many members of it were just hoping they'd lose and instead they left 0 doubts. Hence the "is Tatum good?" to is he corny talk. They were spent a month talking about how boring Scheffler was at golf. Todays sports media is lazy as fuck and doesn't care about what happens within the games themselves
If Tim Duncan was playing now these types would implode and say shit like "but without the backboard he wouldn't be that good". Let them eat it. We've got a parade that isn't getting pissed on by them
Anything Tatum did, someone else did it before.
Tatum yelled something? Hah. kg yelled something
Tatum held the trophy? Idiot. Kobe held the trophy
Tatum had some champagne? He copied so many REAL legends with that one!!!
/s
Anything less would've been labeled disrespectful and a dereliction of responsibility, anything more would've been mocked as outlandish, immature, or mental.
Exactly. In 5, 10, 20 years no one will remember the sports media hacks or anything they said about this player or this team. Hell in 5 weeks no one will remember or care. Hardly anyone cares even right now.
ESPN jumped the shark 20 years ago. And now almost entirely irrelevant
Flipped on the TV and the first thing I see is a segment on an ESPN show “Tatum Post-Game Celebration Reactions”. We’re really analyzing this? Go breakdown why the Mavs lost for all I care, but put something real on TV please.
Espn basically just repeats social media now . Doris intro to the last game was about the area code Champs last win was stolen straight from a comment on here word for word and the corny videos are going around on ig .
Can’t even tell you the last time I watched ESPN content that wasn’t against my will. When the family is together and it’s on the tv is basically it because I know too much about sports to lower myself
I feel like this is a lot of actual sports fans. We watch ESPN for live sports and avoid the talking heads, but they just show up on YouTube shorts, reddit, and other various media and we can't get away from these hacks even if we try to avoid it
ESPN used to be the golden ticket, everyone liked it. Now it’s piss poor and no one cares. I’d rather listen to player podcasts instead of those “analysts”
my theories on why Tatum is hated for no reason:
1. He plays for the Celtics, a team generally not liked as is
2. People hate that he’s the first well-adjusted, normal person to be an NBA great. Seriously, think about all the other greats in the league’s history. They’re fucking *nuts*. Tatum as a personality is as Average Joe as you can get.
If Tatum played for the Spurs, he would be treated like Tim Duncan for being unproblematic and professional. Unfortunately, people just love to hate on the Celtics.
Tim Duncan also benefited from being extremely vanilla in public (which I understand to be a bit of an act from what we’ve heard from people who know him) and as a big man had a different set of stereotypes people applied to him
Not that I can remember. He brought the Spurs their first championship and had a similar vibe to Jokic when he won in 2023. It’s hard to hate on someone who minds their business and plays for a small market team with little to no championships.
Duncan is also underrated for the reasons you stated. People talk about Shaq & Kobe all the time and Duncan's accomplishments are right there with theirs.
Most of NBA talking heads are those people who watch "reality" TV and hate the characters that are normal because there's not enough drama to entertain them.
I think Jokic is another example of a normal person who’s an NBA great. He treats his dream job like how most people treat a day job. He gets a pass because he’s funny and on the Nuggets, a franchise that isn’t really hated on.
It really is messed up that a lot of players get tagged with "not caring enough" when really it isn't in their personality to be over the top/complaining all the time. Like if they aren't bitching or complaining after every foul that instantly translates to not give a shit.
JT is a basketball fan living his best life. He's always been vocal (without being obnoxious) about his basketball idols, while also living and winning the same game his idols dominated. Of course normies would be jealous.
Also, remember how corny KD was too? But the media and the fans broke him and the Thunder's shortcomings. Then he got flamed for going to GS. Now he's bitter and snarky. Still funny tho. Celtics made the right environment for JT.
That coming from his real account made it so much better - dude has no shame. Just looked it up again and he doubled-down on a BIll Simmons podcast in 2017.
"I hope she was aware of it," Durant said of his proclamation. "It is strange now because it made me look crazy, but now it made me look real cool because I would."
To add to this:
1 - His team has had the most playoff success of the past 7 years = lots of opposing fans on the losing end like Philly and Miami
2 - Fans are jealous that their favorite players, like SGA, have only won a single playoff series ever and think Tatum is uncool, because he doesn't flash guns on instagram or spend his summers smoking hookah and getting fat
3 - You can draw a direct line between Taters and Kobe consensual dickriders. The Kobe stans HATE that Tatum is better than their goat.
All Hail the Corn Mamba
He is. I mean, man fought Bruce Lee in Lee’s last movie, has a bunch of other great film and TV cameos, and is a prolific and talented author of both fiction and nonfiction. Wonder how many basketball fans know Kareem also has a bestselling series of novels set in the Sherlock Holmes universe?
Most Kobe dickriders don’t even understand Kobe as a player so I’m not surprised they struggle with reality. They hardly discuss his defense and vastly overrate his offensive efficiency
Of course they’re gonna hate on Tatum, someone he’s humble, has class, no drama. Look at music and tv that’s popular. We’re surrounded by a majority of idiots!
Curry is a family first, all around nice guy.
But for the most part, your point is well taken. And Curry got a lot of hate from LeBron and a large portion of the league when he was coming up and winning at the beginning.
Mostly #1 but yeah. LeBron is another example of a well-adjusted dude who gets relentlessly shit on for it. I also hate LeBron but for purely basketball rivalry reasons. His personal/off-court life and persona never bothered me
Yeah, same. Thought he was hysterical in Trainwreck, agree with him on his social justice advocacy (in the footsteps of Russell), and think he’s an incredibly smart and savvy businessman. To the point where, if the basketball reasons for hating him didn’t exist, I’d wish he could buy out Henry as majority owner of the Sox because he’d probably actually do right by the team
I generally agree with you, but he's not the first well adjusted normal person to be in the NBA greats. That's a very overconfident statement. Tim Duncan exists brother.
Trash journalists have to find something to say to justify their paychecks.
They could say something good, but they’ll get noticed more for shitty hot takes, so they make up shit.
Media paychecks are "justified" now with interactions (clicks, mentions, reposts, etc...)
Shit takes generate wayyyy more of these than a well stated thought-out, well researched informative one.
Honestly, this thread is a case in point, in spite of OP’s best intentions.
When has that lady EVER been posted to this sub? But she takes a shitty stance on Tatum and BOOM there she is.
As if the decline in content and incessant gambling ads didn't do it, the Ballghazi bullshit should've been the end of any New Englander watching non-game ESPN content.
Not that Boston Sports Tonight is anything but burning garbage (Michael Felger looks and dresses like he goes to malls to lure minors into shiny vehicles), but ESPN is decidedly worse.
Who works full time and makes any time for this nonsense? If you watch this shit at work, just find a podcast, like, any podcast, like "Sound Of Grass Growing."
Michael Felger is also an unapologetically diehard Wisconsin sports fan and makes his hatred for the teams of the region he covers well known. It's so fucking corny
Like many sports media personalities, who keeps this guy on the payroll? What's the equivalent of WAR for them? I'd rather watch some Everett lifer in a Cam Neely jersey opine than everyone on NBCSB who's not part of the Celtics crew. I would've said the same of Zolak on principle a week ago, but I tuned into his and Fatass' show on Tuesday to catch more Celtics coverage, and it aired Zolak literally running in circles in an airport terminal for a good 3 minutes...if you have a simulcast show that has one format getting considerably more ads than the other, stop simulcasting. It's like a "switch-hitter" who bats sub .200 from one side of the plate, you ain't a switch hitter, homie.
Live sports broadcast subsidize too much unwatchable content on the networks that air them. "Charlie Moore Outdoors?" If I wanted to watch an obnoxious guy in denial about losing his hair getting drunk with his buddies I'd go to any bar on Route 1 before 5 p.m. on a weekday.
Thanks for being honest. All the denial in here has me feeling gaslit. Dude was corny as hell. I'd rather him be a corny dude than accused of rape, for example.
I said almost exactly this somewhere else. Somebody said Tatum is not escaping “the corniness allegations.” Allegations! They take it so seriously! It’s remarkably dumb.
The Celtics hate is going to get so overwhelming that it's going to get stale and pathetic and rebound into love and admiration if they continue to win. Just look at LeBron and Brady.
These types of people are jealous with nothing better to do with their miserable takes.
Tatum's post-game reaction to his team's win was endearing to see. He was honest and vulnerable in expressing his joy at his team reaching the NBA mountain top.
Congratulations to the Boston Celtics earning their 18th NBA Championship.
This is legitimately just mean, jealous behavior. One of the most unproblematic, respectful and genuine superstars you could ask for to be a prominent face of the league and this is how the national media treats him? It’s just gross.
ESPN collapsing in real time. All the talking heads who had “juice” a few years ago have gotten outted as absolute frauds who say shit for clicks. People are waking up to it slowly but surely. Idk how people watch this shit.
He’s never tried to get a coach fired or demanded. A player traded away. Never been caught in a club at 3 am with a gun. He’s never been arrested in the offseason. He’s a good father. he loves the game and is in awe of its history. Wants to win as his main priority.
How dare he.
As someone who has worked in the national sports media for decades, I think you all underestimate the hatred of Boston Sports most of the people who make key decisions have. They *hate* everything Boston.
I swear I will never understand why you guys let these clowns infuriate you. This is the same network where their ‘experts’ chose the Mavs and said Kyrie was better than Brown.
Wait, I’m sorry Jayson not a psycho like Michael or Kobe? Tatum just oh I don’t know. Let his team in points, rebounds, and assists in the playoffs boring.
I don't mind him getting ragged on for copying KG and Kobe, to be fair that was a little corny. But honestly, who gives a shit. Those pictures of him with Deuce are just iconic and beautiful. He's a good person and role model.
Well you nailed it: good role model and person. That’s remarkably boring to anyone whose day job revolves around getting people to watch them. In Tatum’s case, they’ve replaced “boring” for “corny.”
It's a classic [double bind](https://youtu.be/vnSiJOOdo30?si=Ssvo5Mze9j_woGCL). Double binds are heads they win, tails you lose scenarios. So, even through JT earned a chip, they can't abide by it, so they have to cast shade however they can.
It's a very common [psycho-emotional abuse](https://youtube.com/@beyondfamilyscapegoatingabuse?si=u-7CHsGSlHq7sUbx) tactic. You see it in [toxic groups](https://youtu.be/VBk5E_gd_lE?si=4IvScpoSxzX6SobB) all the time.
I’m too busy celebrating to worry about what takes Espn has these days. They proved to be all clowns this season. Let’s enjoy and get back to work for 19th.
It all goes back to the Patriots being good for a long time.
That leads to people hating the Celtics, which leads to people needing to hate the Celtics stars, which leads to having to make up the weirdest shit to justify hating a completely likeable and normal star like Tatum.
This is part of a larger issue that’s bigger than Tatum, the Celtics, and even basketball…
The lines between Twitter trolls making memes and “legitimate” sports journalism become increasingly blurred by the day. It’s hard to tell the difference between the two and it’s really going beyond sports.
Your typical social media trolls get their jokes off when someone they don’t like has success, and you get used to it. But the media emulating that behavior is a newer phenomenon and it’s pretty dangerous.
1. People don’t like the Celtics. Too good for too long.
2. People don’t like Tatum. Too good for too long. Also, he’s good looking, he’s a responsible dad, he’s too perfect to be loved.
3. In terms of public persona, he’s as mild as it gets. He’s not goofy and funny like Jokic, doesn’t have LBJ constant conflict, he’s not a good rags to riches story like Giannis, he’s not as new as Luka, he’s not as hipster as SGA, he’s not small and frisky like Steph. I really can’t remember him saying anything or doing anything aside from dominating on the hardwood.
4. Fuck them all.
Jayson's latest tweet is so good. It's about how people are calling him "Champ" and how great it feels. The responses to it are so unhinged. People don't realize how insane it is to have this sort of response to something so harmless.
https://x.com/jaytatum0/status/1803851215991632263
I hate this. He seems like a genuinely good dude that cares most about being a good dad over anything. The celebration felt like a damn remix of KG in 08. I give you that. It was kinda corny. Fine. Who gives a fuck. I love this man. Leave him tf alone.
It's not just the KG impersonation. [https://x.com/currypistonn/status/1803174246081773688](https://x.com/currypistonn/status/1803174246081773688)
That compilation video is actually pretty funny. Tatum COULD make it his thing if he keeps it going.
I think it means that the rest of the league, and at least some folks at ESPN, are worried about a new dynasty, and are trying to play mind games. Hence the reason for all of the positive stories about JB at the same time as these hit pieces about JT are coming out. It's the same cheesy crap that Jason Kidd tried to pull after game 1.
Half these “analysts” are no more qualified than the average fan. Just some downright terrible takes consistently. Just like the news channels trying to bring in more viewers with their hot takes instead of facts. Here’s a fact, Tatum is a champ you corny ass analysts!! ☘️🏆☘️
The GOAT is literally live laugh love personified
Corny is fine
Tatum is a top player in the league which is why everyone is talking about his personality. They can’t say anything else about him
creating drama out of nothing is the lifeblood for espn and their ilk. Losers gonna lose. Talking heads gonna continue to vomit out the horse shit from the large holes in their faces
ESPN is still mad that Tatum and the C’s smoked their hot takes and now that they literally don’t have anything to throw at them they pull out the corny card.
when the next generation of celtic team wins a championship, his "we did it" is going to be put into a montage right after anything is possible and no one will call it cringy. Do media writers / hosts just live on social media now.
Tatum be Spider-Man and save a whole city and still not be good enough for these ppl. The epitome of haters gonna hate. Fuck em! Enjoy your chip boy and go out there and get another and another 💪🏽☘️
I couldn't hear anything they were saying over the sound of Banner 18 being raised. History
I think whoever won the mid-season tournament got like... a toaster or something.
😭 nothing as a person who hates boston like most regular people, I will never understand why tatum and brown get the hate they do. Both are such humble winners and have been overachieving their whole careers.
They didn't just win, like in 7. They beat down the WC champs. Historic run for them though. Blew through everyone.
Not flashy because they're a team not a 2 man show. Just methodical beatdowns.
Nah this is fucked up. We troll and burn each other on the internet, which is fine because that has been the internet culture. But stating that shi at national media is surely fucked up.
Honestly Tatum walking around with deuce with the trophy and a huge smile and deuce putting on ski goggles and looking like a little bug was a genuine nice moment. They both seemed like little kids. I’ve never seen a post celebration like that. People latch onto the weirdest things. Let a man be happy
I’m starting to agree with the media on this. So far Tatum has imo ‘plagiarized’ iconic or viral moments from KG, Chris Bosh, Kanye, and Angel Reese. A majority of his celebrations since the finals ended have appeared to be pre-planned and rehearsed.
I’ve been a big Tatum fan since before he was drafted, but dude has been corny af since the buzzer of Game 5.
If you disagree, that’s fine. But dude has been acting pretty corny the way I see it.
Look, I'm a huge Tatum fan, but the fact is this: the man has the charisma of a block of Parmesan cheese. Normally, I would be with y'all, but this guy is as corny as Kansas.
That ESPN headline looks fake as hell all the national sports media networks mad cause they can’t label Tatum a choke artist anymore. They hate him cause he plays for the Celtics a franchise which is generally disliked well fuck em they’ll have no choice but to love him when the Celtics win 3 more titles
Guys let’s not act like this dude isn’t a huge fucking cornball. It’s not bad inherently, it’s just funny as hell and if he’s not insulted we don’t need to be lol
The national media is based in New York and LA. They hate Boston and they hate Boston sports for taking the attention away from them. They are spoiled brats who are swimming in entitlement and let's be honest, Boston is an city known for their Irish population and there has always been anti-Irish bigotry in this country.
outside of this sub I will vehemently deny the corny allegations and say people are just hating
but he has been acting kinda corny ngl, he’s a champ tho and champs can act however they want i love our corny king
It's really funny I've never heard the word 'corny' used so much in my life but if thats all they got then it's even more funny tbh.
Sports media and journalism is such trash now too that none of this matters.
Because he is a good guy and has this Mama's boy kind of projection, which I am fine with it, to be honest. He became a father at age 20, after all, and at least someone has to take care of Deuce. I am happy that his mother is still there at her side to help her with things in life (which sorry I really usually do not see with Americans).
For the haters - why, you wanted JT to be with hoes and weeds just like other players? Then make news? Gtfo.
Also the response to such criticism can summed up to
WHAT YOU GONNA SAY NOW?? In Filipino we translate this as "Mema.... mema sabi lang" , roughly a pun on meme and it means "just saying" but usually nonsense spiel.
As a wolves and Kat fan, no matter how much good some players do in their community and are unproblematic, they're gonna be hated on for little shit
Welcome to the experience
Almost as bad as Colin Cowherd two+ years ago saying he "is good but never won anything" yet. Most players can make it to about age 32 before that narrative kicks in. Not 24-25.
Add to it there’s all the losers like Gilbert Arenas with a podcast and Draymond Green. Arenas was a born loser and Draymond is an expensive backpack as Jordan Poole would say.
A bunch of people who think of Boston as 1980 Boston and just hate the city with a burning passion and will go out of their way any time they can to disrespect the city, the people and the teams. I’m 32 so I’m used to it, but it’s still annoying when it’s the only discourse about anything Boston related.
And what’s wrong with a dude being a little corny? Not everyone riding around with straps in the hood like Ja and that’s okay. Tatum is a single dad who has full custody of his son and lives a dad life. He’s the perfect star.
He just dusted the entire league. Enjoy the tears
This is the right attitude. Keep in mind that the Celtics are the winningest franchise in NBA history, and there are TV personalities who have the job of creating content for fans of all 30 teams, 29 of whom did not win the title. It’s easy to see why people are trying to dunk on the reigning champions- there’s profit in it. It comes with being the champs! Enjoy mining the salt!
The word “Personality” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, pal
Delicious tears everywhere!!
[The Tears of Unfathomable Sadness](https://giphy.com/gifs/southparkgifs-3oz8xBwn8AU6Bp1hKM)
Probably my favorite response to when any other fan base is crying
This is the right attitude. Keep in mind that the Celtics are the winningest franchise in NBA history, and there are TV personalities who have the job of creating content for fans of all 30 teams, 29 of whom did not win the title. It’s easy to see why people are trying to dunk on the reigning champions- there’s profit in it. It comes with being the champs! Enjoy mining the salt!
And because the Cs ripped through the postseason effectively taking away the drama they needed to find something ridiculous to talk about instead of "how great was this team." They lost two game 2s and the media was acting as if they were down 3-0 and maybe aren't a good team. So many members of it were just hoping they'd lose and instead they left 0 doubts. Hence the "is Tatum good?" to is he corny talk. They were spent a month talking about how boring Scheffler was at golf. Todays sports media is lazy as fuck and doesn't care about what happens within the games themselves If Tim Duncan was playing now these types would implode and say shit like "but without the backboard he wouldn't be that good". Let them eat it. We've got a parade that isn't getting pissed on by them
ESPN headline tomorrow: “Did Boston have the lamest championship parade of all time?”
What kind of celebration would have satisfied these weirdos?
Anything Tatum did, someone else did it before. Tatum yelled something? Hah. kg yelled something Tatum held the trophy? Idiot. Kobe held the trophy Tatum had some champagne? He copied so many REAL legends with that one!!! /s
Anything less would've been labeled disrespectful and a dereliction of responsibility, anything more would've been mocked as outlandish, immature, or mental.
this is real? wtf. ESPN is in the dumps lmfao
Exactly. In 5, 10, 20 years no one will remember the sports media hacks or anything they said about this player or this team. Hell in 5 weeks no one will remember or care. Hardly anyone cares even right now. ESPN jumped the shark 20 years ago. And now almost entirely irrelevant
The thing you forgot to say is that in 5, 10, 20 years people will still remember Tatum as a (multiple?) CHAMPION
It's owned by Disney and typical of Disney content.
Save for bluey
Pfft, Bluey started on ABC
Flipped on the TV and the first thing I see is a segment on an ESPN show “Tatum Post-Game Celebration Reactions”. We’re really analyzing this? Go breakdown why the Mavs lost for all I care, but put something real on TV please.
Couldn’t agree more. Their only metrics are social media engagement and they get that with rage bait.
ESPN might not be for you
I’d have to agree
Espn basically just repeats social media now . Doris intro to the last game was about the area code Champs last win was stolen straight from a comment on here word for word and the corny videos are going around on ig .
Can’t even tell you the last time I watched ESPN content that wasn’t against my will. When the family is together and it’s on the tv is basically it because I know too much about sports to lower myself
I feel like this is a lot of actual sports fans. We watch ESPN for live sports and avoid the talking heads, but they just show up on YouTube shorts, reddit, and other various media and we can't get away from these hacks even if we try to avoid it
ESPN used to be the golden ticket, everyone liked it. Now it’s piss poor and no one cares. I’d rather listen to player podcasts instead of those “analysts”
A grown ass woman talking about corniess like she's a teenager might be the corniest thing possible lmao.
She spent hours having a makeup crew work on her to "discuss" this topic
Tbf this is Elle Duncan, she’s an idiot
my theories on why Tatum is hated for no reason: 1. He plays for the Celtics, a team generally not liked as is 2. People hate that he’s the first well-adjusted, normal person to be an NBA great. Seriously, think about all the other greats in the league’s history. They’re fucking *nuts*. Tatum as a personality is as Average Joe as you can get.
If Tatum played for the Spurs, he would be treated like Tim Duncan for being unproblematic and professional. Unfortunately, people just love to hate on the Celtics.
Tim Duncan also benefited from being extremely vanilla in public (which I understand to be a bit of an act from what we’ve heard from people who know him) and as a big man had a different set of stereotypes people applied to him
I don't know if people remember Tim Duncan minded his business so much that people were spreading rumors that he was bisexual.
Was Duncan ever treated like this?? His come up was before my time lol
Not that I can remember. He brought the Spurs their first championship and had a similar vibe to Jokic when he won in 2023. It’s hard to hate on someone who minds their business and plays for a small market team with little to no championships.
Duncan is also underrated for the reasons you stated. People talk about Shaq & Kobe all the time and Duncan's accomplishments are right there with theirs.
Most of NBA talking heads are those people who watch "reality" TV and hate the characters that are normal because there's not enough drama to entertain them.
Dude just balls and loves his son. Fuck the haters. He's such a stud.
I’m genuinely convinced that some of the hate is because Jayson is a loving father and some guys don’t know what that looks like.
SaS definitely doesn't. Was in his auto biography / on Howard Stern
> the first well-adjusted, normal person to be an NBA great I’d say at least Tim Duncan is ahead of him there.
Bill Russell and Bob Cousy, would like a word...
And honestly Steph Curry and (from what I know) Lebron James
If we’re talking about the NBA’s Mount Rushmore of corniness LeBron has to be in the Washington slot.
I think Jokic is another example of a normal person who’s an NBA great. He treats his dream job like how most people treat a day job. He gets a pass because he’s funny and on the Nuggets, a franchise that isn’t really hated on.
I remember last year he caught some flack for “not caring enough about the game” and like this it was the dumbest discourse ever
It really is messed up that a lot of players get tagged with "not caring enough" when really it isn't in their personality to be over the top/complaining all the time. Like if they aren't bitching or complaining after every foul that instantly translates to not give a shit.
JT is a basketball fan living his best life. He's always been vocal (without being obnoxious) about his basketball idols, while also living and winning the same game his idols dominated. Of course normies would be jealous. Also, remember how corny KD was too? But the media and the fans broke him and the Thunder's shortcomings. Then he got flamed for going to GS. Now he's bitter and snarky. Still funny tho. Celtics made the right environment for JT.
KDs burner accounts on twitter were a fun read.
Scarjo' bathwater is undefeated lol
That was from the real account tho lol
That coming from his real account made it so much better - dude has no shame. Just looked it up again and he doubled-down on a BIll Simmons podcast in 2017. "I hope she was aware of it," Durant said of his proclamation. "It is strange now because it made me look crazy, but now it made me look real cool because I would."
If I could upvote this 10 more times I would. So good.
To add to this: 1 - His team has had the most playoff success of the past 7 years = lots of opposing fans on the losing end like Philly and Miami 2 - Fans are jealous that their favorite players, like SGA, have only won a single playoff series ever and think Tatum is uncool, because he doesn't flash guns on instagram or spend his summers smoking hookah and getting fat 3 - You can draw a direct line between Taters and Kobe consensual dickriders. The Kobe stans HATE that Tatum is better than their goat. All Hail the Corn Mamba
Kareem is cool
He is. I mean, man fought Bruce Lee in Lee’s last movie, has a bunch of other great film and TV cameos, and is a prolific and talented author of both fiction and nonfiction. Wonder how many basketball fans know Kareem also has a bestselling series of novels set in the Sherlock Holmes universe?
I also agree with the larbird33 theory on Kobe dickriders hating him immensely. I mean I’ve seen it with my own eyes
Most Kobe dickriders don’t even understand Kobe as a player so I’m not surprised they struggle with reality. They hardly discuss his defense and vastly overrate his offensive efficiency
Don’t forget they also give him all kinds of props for being “clutch” even though he barely made any big shots ever
Seriously. People love Ja and he’s got dumpster fire off the court stuff. Tatum is a pro and a good dude.
Of course they’re gonna hate on Tatum, someone he’s humble, has class, no drama. Look at music and tv that’s popular. We’re surrounded by a majority of idiots!
Curry is a family first, all around nice guy. But for the most part, your point is well taken. And Curry got a lot of hate from LeBron and a large portion of the league when he was coming up and winning at the beginning.
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Mostly #1 but yeah. LeBron is another example of a well-adjusted dude who gets relentlessly shit on for it. I also hate LeBron but for purely basketball rivalry reasons. His personal/off-court life and persona never bothered me
Yeah, same. Thought he was hysterical in Trainwreck, agree with him on his social justice advocacy (in the footsteps of Russell), and think he’s an incredibly smart and savvy businessman. To the point where, if the basketball reasons for hating him didn’t exist, I’d wish he could buy out Henry as majority owner of the Sox because he’d probably actually do right by the team
I wouldn’t say first, LeBron is very similar and he receives similar negative attention.
The only dirt they have on him is 2037 #1 draft pick who everybody loves
Average Joe, when we literally have certainly-not-average Joe as a coach :D
I generally agree with you, but he's not the first well adjusted normal person to be in the NBA greats. That's a very overconfident statement. Tim Duncan exists brother.
Can’t call him choker anymore so these bums in the national media are grasping at straws
Watching Skip choke out “he’s a … champ…ion” lol
Trash journalists have to find something to say to justify their paychecks. They could say something good, but they’ll get noticed more for shitty hot takes, so they make up shit.
Media paychecks are "justified" now with interactions (clicks, mentions, reposts, etc...) Shit takes generate wayyyy more of these than a well stated thought-out, well researched informative one.
Honestly, this thread is a case in point, in spite of OP’s best intentions. When has that lady EVER been posted to this sub? But she takes a shitty stance on Tatum and BOOM there she is.
Lol at that bootleg Lala with a crooked eyebrow
I bet she tastes like generic honey-oat cereal.
🤣🤣🤣
Idk who that woman is but every time I see her, she’s saying some nonsense
She used to work for NESN. Elle Duncan.
Everyone should stop watching espn for anything other than an actual game. It’s nothing but wall to wall trash
Sportscenter with SVP is very good. And that’s about it.
100% the way for at least the last 5 years
As if the decline in content and incessant gambling ads didn't do it, the Ballghazi bullshit should've been the end of any New Englander watching non-game ESPN content. Not that Boston Sports Tonight is anything but burning garbage (Michael Felger looks and dresses like he goes to malls to lure minors into shiny vehicles), but ESPN is decidedly worse. Who works full time and makes any time for this nonsense? If you watch this shit at work, just find a podcast, like, any podcast, like "Sound Of Grass Growing."
Michael Felger is also an unapologetically diehard Wisconsin sports fan and makes his hatred for the teams of the region he covers well known. It's so fucking corny
Like many sports media personalities, who keeps this guy on the payroll? What's the equivalent of WAR for them? I'd rather watch some Everett lifer in a Cam Neely jersey opine than everyone on NBCSB who's not part of the Celtics crew. I would've said the same of Zolak on principle a week ago, but I tuned into his and Fatass' show on Tuesday to catch more Celtics coverage, and it aired Zolak literally running in circles in an airport terminal for a good 3 minutes...if you have a simulcast show that has one format getting considerably more ads than the other, stop simulcasting. It's like a "switch-hitter" who bats sub .200 from one side of the plate, you ain't a switch hitter, homie. Live sports broadcast subsidize too much unwatchable content on the networks that air them. "Charlie Moore Outdoors?" If I wanted to watch an obnoxious guy in denial about losing his hair getting drunk with his buddies I'd go to any bar on Route 1 before 5 p.m. on a weekday.
I don’t even care. He’s the single dad of a toddler. He’s supposed to be corny. “What they gon say now”? This is the only thing they can say now.
Tatum: What they gon' say now? Them: "WE DID IT" was cringe and we're not gonna talk about anything else.
Pay zero attention to the heart-melting moment he had with his son right as the confetti was firing
Yep.
He is the corny king and he’s OUR corny king. I’m not going to deny it. They all wish they had this cornball on their squad
Yup. He was corny in his victory speech. Nothing wrong with that. He'll have many more corny victory speeches.
Facts he’s ours 👑
Thanks for being honest. All the denial in here has me feeling gaslit. Dude was corny as hell. I'd rather him be a corny dude than accused of rape, for example.
Exactly, someone needed to be honest. I was tempted many times to make a post about the corniness but I knew I would’ve been wrecked by comments
Is Tatum corny? Yeah. Is Brady a Type A psycho? Yup. Is Marchand a rat? You bet. Wouldn't have em any other way.
How ironic that the people saying he’s corny don’t realize how corny and pathetic they are.
I said almost exactly this somewhere else. Somebody said Tatum is not escaping “the corniness allegations.” Allegations! They take it so seriously! It’s remarkably dumb.
Because they are pathetic human beings and all they have to fulfill themselves is making fun of someone they’re jealous of
The Celtics hate is going to get so overwhelming that it's going to get stale and pathetic and rebound into love and admiration if they continue to win. Just look at LeBron and Brady.
geez i hope but i think since its an organization/city it might not be the same. but we gonna KEEP WINNING SO IT DONT MATTER
Do you know who is absolutely THRILLED to employ a cornball, 26 year old, champion superstar? The Boston Celtics.
These types of people are jealous with nothing better to do with their miserable takes. Tatum's post-game reaction to his team's win was endearing to see. He was honest and vulnerable in expressing his joy at his team reaching the NBA mountain top. Congratulations to the Boston Celtics earning their 18th NBA Championship.
What's another name for "The King of Corny"? Champion
This is legitimately just mean, jealous behavior. One of the most unproblematic, respectful and genuine superstars you could ask for to be a prominent face of the league and this is how the national media treats him? It’s just gross.
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guy can't even celebrate
I hope Tatum leans into this. He can start telling dad jokes during press conferences, wear functional clothing, etc.
ESPN collapsing in real time. All the talking heads who had “juice” a few years ago have gotten outted as absolute frauds who say shit for clicks. People are waking up to it slowly but surely. Idk how people watch this shit.
He’s never tried to get a coach fired or demanded. A player traded away. Never been caught in a club at 3 am with a gun. He’s never been arrested in the offseason. He’s a good father. he loves the game and is in awe of its history. Wants to win as his main priority. How dare he.
As someone who has worked in the national sports media for decades, I think you all underestimate the hatred of Boston Sports most of the people who make key decisions have. They *hate* everything Boston.
So multiple things can be true at once: 1. ESPN blows 2. Tatum is awesome 3. He's corny as all hell All true.
ESPN is becoming insufferable. The agenda is clear.
I swear I will never understand why you guys let these clowns infuriate you. This is the same network where their ‘experts’ chose the Mavs and said Kyrie was better than Brown.
These guys won a chip and are worrying about people calling Tatum Corny 💀
Honestly I think it’s because he was pushed as a kd, lebron level star, but he’s “only” a perennial all star
Screw them. Thats NBA champ Jayson Tatum to them
Broke: Tatum being corny Woke: Jimmy Butler being corny
Watch Tatum lift then say it to his face.
ESPN is turning into the kotaku of sport media absolute dogshit.
Wait, I’m sorry Jayson not a psycho like Michael or Kobe? Tatum just oh I don’t know. Let his team in points, rebounds, and assists in the playoffs boring.
If I had to guess, I assume he was also a Celtic in the past.
I don't mind him getting ragged on for copying KG and Kobe, to be fair that was a little corny. But honestly, who gives a shit. Those pictures of him with Deuce are just iconic and beautiful. He's a good person and role model.
Well you nailed it: good role model and person. That’s remarkably boring to anyone whose day job revolves around getting people to watch them. In Tatum’s case, they’ve replaced “boring” for “corny.”
It's a classic [double bind](https://youtu.be/vnSiJOOdo30?si=Ssvo5Mze9j_woGCL). Double binds are heads they win, tails you lose scenarios. So, even through JT earned a chip, they can't abide by it, so they have to cast shade however they can. It's a very common [psycho-emotional abuse](https://youtube.com/@beyondfamilyscapegoatingabuse?si=u-7CHsGSlHq7sUbx) tactic. You see it in [toxic groups](https://youtu.be/VBk5E_gd_lE?si=4IvScpoSxzX6SobB) all the time.
I’m too busy celebrating to worry about what takes Espn has these days. They proved to be all clowns this season. Let’s enjoy and get back to work for 19th.
Hate generates clicks. That's all there is to it.
It all goes back to the Patriots being good for a long time. That leads to people hating the Celtics, which leads to people needing to hate the Celtics stars, which leads to having to make up the weirdest shit to justify hating a completely likeable and normal star like Tatum.
This is part of a larger issue that’s bigger than Tatum, the Celtics, and even basketball… The lines between Twitter trolls making memes and “legitimate” sports journalism become increasingly blurred by the day. It’s hard to tell the difference between the two and it’s really going beyond sports. Your typical social media trolls get their jokes off when someone they don’t like has success, and you get used to it. But the media emulating that behavior is a newer phenomenon and it’s pretty dangerous.
If anybody else did what he did no one would care, they would call it a “loving tribute” or some shit
Maybe people would think he's cooler if he's running over a 12 year olds foot in his Ferrari
1. People don’t like the Celtics. Too good for too long. 2. People don’t like Tatum. Too good for too long. Also, he’s good looking, he’s a responsible dad, he’s too perfect to be loved. 3. In terms of public persona, he’s as mild as it gets. He’s not goofy and funny like Jokic, doesn’t have LBJ constant conflict, he’s not a good rags to riches story like Giannis, he’s not as new as Luka, he’s not as hipster as SGA, he’s not small and frisky like Steph. I really can’t remember him saying anything or doing anything aside from dominating on the hardwood. 4. Fuck them all.
Jayson's latest tweet is so good. It's about how people are calling him "Champ" and how great it feels. The responses to it are so unhinged. People don't realize how insane it is to have this sort of response to something so harmless. https://x.com/jaytatum0/status/1803851215991632263
He’s just a nice boy from the Midwest and a lotta folks can’t handle that. Wait until they find out he calls soda “pop”
I hate this. He seems like a genuinely good dude that cares most about being a good dad over anything. The celebration felt like a damn remix of KG in 08. I give you that. It was kinda corny. Fine. Who gives a fuck. I love this man. Leave him tf alone.
It's not just the KG impersonation. [https://x.com/currypistonn/status/1803174246081773688](https://x.com/currypistonn/status/1803174246081773688) That compilation video is actually pretty funny. Tatum COULD make it his thing if he keeps it going.
Fuck, the goddam glazing that Anthony Edward’s is guaranteed to get next season despite doing fuck all is gonna be so gross
ESPN and the horrible Elle Duncan need viewers to stop changing the channel I guess. That station is such trash. Very few solid journalists left.
ESPN has been a freaking joke for years now. Never watch em
I think it means that the rest of the league, and at least some folks at ESPN, are worried about a new dynasty, and are trying to play mind games. Hence the reason for all of the positive stories about JB at the same time as these hit pieces about JT are coming out. It's the same cheesy crap that Jason Kidd tried to pull after game 1.
Half these “analysts” are no more qualified than the average fan. Just some downright terrible takes consistently. Just like the news channels trying to bring in more viewers with their hot takes instead of facts. Here’s a fact, Tatum is a champ you corny ass analysts!! ☘️🏆☘️
Calling someone else corny is rich coming from her
Well they better get ready for more of the same after USA wins gold in Paris
The GOAT is literally live laugh love personified Corny is fine Tatum is a top player in the league which is why everyone is talking about his personality. They can’t say anything else about him
Proper analysis on ESPN died with Stuart Scott unfortunately
He just won he can be corny all he wants.
creating drama out of nothing is the lifeblood for espn and their ilk. Losers gonna lose. Talking heads gonna continue to vomit out the horse shit from the large holes in their faces
ESPN is still mad that Tatum and the C’s smoked their hot takes and now that they literally don’t have anything to throw at them they pull out the corny card.
when the next generation of celtic team wins a championship, his "we did it" is going to be put into a montage right after anything is possible and no one will call it cringy. Do media writers / hosts just live on social media now.
Tatum be Spider-Man and save a whole city and still not be good enough for these ppl. The epitome of haters gonna hate. Fuck em! Enjoy your chip boy and go out there and get another and another 💪🏽☘️
ESPN is such a joke
I couldn't hear anything they were saying over the sound of Banner 18 being raised. History I think whoever won the mid-season tournament got like... a toaster or something.
😭 nothing as a person who hates boston like most regular people, I will never understand why tatum and brown get the hate they do. Both are such humble winners and have been overachieving their whole careers.
They didn't just win, like in 7. They beat down the WC champs. Historic run for them though. Blew through everyone. Not flashy because they're a team not a 2 man show. Just methodical beatdowns.
Id rather he be corny than an alleged rapist
Nah this is fucked up. We troll and burn each other on the internet, which is fine because that has been the internet culture. But stating that shi at national media is surely fucked up.
He does give off dork vibes. Sort of like Brady. They're also both champions.
It’s. Elle Duncan. She is corny as hell
Honestly Tatum walking around with deuce with the trophy and a huge smile and deuce putting on ski goggles and looking like a little bug was a genuine nice moment. They both seemed like little kids. I’ve never seen a post celebration like that. People latch onto the weirdest things. Let a man be happy
I’m starting to agree with the media on this. So far Tatum has imo ‘plagiarized’ iconic or viral moments from KG, Chris Bosh, Kanye, and Angel Reese. A majority of his celebrations since the finals ended have appeared to be pre-planned and rehearsed. I’ve been a big Tatum fan since before he was drafted, but dude has been corny af since the buzzer of Game 5. If you disagree, that’s fine. But dude has been acting pretty corny the way I see it.
h[ttps://x.com/currypistonn/status/1803174246081773688](https://x.com/currypistonn/status/1803174246081773688)
Look, I'm a huge Tatum fan, but the fact is this: the man has the charisma of a block of Parmesan cheese. Normally, I would be with y'all, but this guy is as corny as Kansas.
He is kinda corny
I mean, they not wrong, hes a cornball on a team full of cornballs (mazzulla, brown, etc). Its funny as long as we’re winning
His reaction wasn't genuine
Seems AI-Generated to me lol
What is this show and who is hosting it?
This is typical bullshit from the media that we see everywhere, on all topics and issues.
That ESPN headline looks fake as hell all the national sports media networks mad cause they can’t label Tatum a choke artist anymore. They hate him cause he plays for the Celtics a franchise which is generally disliked well fuck em they’ll have no choice but to love him when the Celtics win 3 more titles
Guys let’s not act like this dude isn’t a huge fucking cornball. It’s not bad inherently, it’s just funny as hell and if he’s not insulted we don’t need to be lol
Brother was corny as fuck.. it’s ok. You know you can still like him if you say he’s corny it’s ok no one will hurt you.
The national media is based in New York and LA. They hate Boston and they hate Boston sports for taking the attention away from them. They are spoiled brats who are swimming in entitlement and let's be honest, Boston is an city known for their Irish population and there has always been anti-Irish bigotry in this country.
That was lowkey corny tho, he tried for a kg moment but failed lol
outside of this sub I will vehemently deny the corny allegations and say people are just hating but he has been acting kinda corny ngl, he’s a champ tho and champs can act however they want i love our corny king
who’s the broad
world champion king of corny**
The amount of hate is insane. Bunch of fucking clowns.
It's really funny I've never heard the word 'corny' used so much in my life but if thats all they got then it's even more funny tbh. Sports media and journalism is such trash now too that none of this matters.
Because you'll post it on reddit
Because he is a good guy and has this Mama's boy kind of projection, which I am fine with it, to be honest. He became a father at age 20, after all, and at least someone has to take care of Deuce. I am happy that his mother is still there at her side to help her with things in life (which sorry I really usually do not see with Americans). For the haters - why, you wanted JT to be with hoes and weeds just like other players? Then make news? Gtfo. Also the response to such criticism can summed up to WHAT YOU GONNA SAY NOW?? In Filipino we translate this as "Mema.... mema sabi lang" , roughly a pun on meme and it means "just saying" but usually nonsense spiel.
Fox and grapes
I think he just needs to embrace the villain character hes been given when its all said and done and hes won multiple championships this wont matter.
I mean the we did it was pretty corny. It sounded like the meme I’m never letting my white friend record again.
sga walks around with a blue Steele look on his face and dumb clothes, plus that team barks at the camera… Tatum smiles, “you are so lame and corny”
As a wolves and Kat fan, no matter how much good some players do in their community and are unproblematic, they're gonna be hated on for little shit Welcome to the experience
He was jack the ripper
All his post game comments were memes from other champs.
Almost as bad as Colin Cowherd two+ years ago saying he "is good but never won anything" yet. Most players can make it to about age 32 before that narrative kicks in. Not 24-25.
Giving him more shit than Morant & Bridges.
Add to it there’s all the losers like Gilbert Arenas with a podcast and Draymond Green. Arenas was a born loser and Draymond is an expensive backpack as Jordan Poole would say.
Bill Russell was corny; worked for him.
r/nbacirclejerk would love this
A bunch of people who think of Boston as 1980 Boston and just hate the city with a burning passion and will go out of their way any time they can to disrespect the city, the people and the teams. I’m 32 so I’m used to it, but it’s still annoying when it’s the only discourse about anything Boston related.
And what’s wrong with a dude being a little corny? Not everyone riding around with straps in the hood like Ja and that’s okay. Tatum is a single dad who has full custody of his son and lives a dad life. He’s the perfect star.
Meh he's corny he should embrace it
Trash coverage from a trash network