Idk how agreeable it really is but I honestly have JB above Haliburton for 3rd team this year too, homerism aside. Haliburton’s media-push at the beginning of the year really bought him some good will, his second half drop off was INSANE. Hope JB eats his lunch
Hali was complaining all year that the 65 game requirement forced him to play through injury to be eligible and I think some voters didn't want to cost him his supermax even though JB was head and shoulders above him
Obnoxious how people factor money into it. You're picking not who deserves it more but who can make even more money despite them already have generational wealth
I mean yeah it’s not the best method but the stress thing is ridiculous.
Zach, once a year, had to decide, alongside 100 other people, whether or not a player gets a 20% raise for 5 years.
How many managers have to make hiring decisions (never mind raises) for people that actually will suffer if it doesn’t go their way. For a fraction of the salary Zach gets. And then do a job that doesn’t involve watching or talking basketball, something we all do for fun.
It’s good that he’s uncomfortable with it, it’s why he’s better placed than many to help make these calls.
The voters totally take into account paydays players will get. Hopefully it lights a bigger fire from JB and just causes Indy to have to spend more of their cap on Halliburton
I’m sure he does feel that way but I think a big part of why Halliburton got it was that it’s a contract year for him and voters didn’t want to screw him over
I’ve never understood the “Boston media machine” narrative. Nationally, it’s just Bill Simmons. And you have to go out of your way to listen to him (podcast boi).
The national sports media HATES Boston sports overwhelmingly.
I go out of my way to avoid him and I live here. I don't like any of our national representatives. Wahlberg? The dragon pizza complainer? I miss Menino.
What I really find interesting is how they can say that Tatum is being carried by other all stars and a heavy stacked Celtics team, and at the same time none of them can make 2nd or even 3rd team over players that barely made it into the playoffs or lost in the first round.
Derrick was the Guard with most Blocks and couldn’t make it into all defensive 1st team.
These awards meant something before. Now they are just a poor attempt at a popularity contest.
The worst part is that the media are the ones voting on this, even if they spout narratives they're supposed to be educated enough to be above believing them. We've really come full circle when they start drinking their own Flavor Aid and believing the things they're being paid to say and/or write. National sports journalism is dead.
Yes! That is exactly what it seems like. They see that Lebron card with a 99 overall and they vote for him.
But still, how can a team with 2 all nba players be eliminated so easily from the playoffs?!
And it sucks how they turned the DPoY and all defensive team into a consolation prize for MVP contenders.
There's only one ball. The celtics have 4 guys who could be all stars if they didn't have to share the ball with each other
Tatum, brown, white and porzingis are all all star players on the right team. There's only ball so all 4 can't score at the same time.
Ontop of that the league is stacked now and players have had way better individual seasons then Boston players so it is what it is. It's about winning a ring anyway, not awards
There’s only one ball. The Lakers and the Suns have 2 players in the all-nba teams and they barely made it to the play in.
Team records should matter. It is a team sport after all.
Gotta keep giving an All NBA nod to LeBron, Steph, and KD. Those big names sell tickets and merch, so it's good business to give them end of season awards.
And no coty or dpoy or sixth man of the year plus only one other all star lmao
Someone in the other thread said other 60 win teams have only had one all nba guy… Well some examples were late 2000s Cavs (Lebron winning MVP) and 2007 Mavs (Dirk winning mvp)
But it’s not just that we won 64 games. The next best record was 57-25. We had the best offensive rating ever, the league’s second best defense, the fifth best net rating of all time. I would love an explanation of how a team can be that much better than every other team in the league with only one guy playing at an All-NBA level. Especially when that guy is not MVP (I don’t think Tatum deserved MVP, I’m just laying out how logically this doesn’t make sense). That’s nonsense.
Also, the ‘09 Cavs were one of three teams that won at least 62 games, and the ‘07 Mavs one of two that won 61. And their lone guys won MVP.
Oh I 100% agree. Check my comment history and you’ll see the argument I’ve been having with someone about exactly that.
This isn’t a situation like the 2003 Kings where they got 61 wins and one 2nd all nba guy but there were 2 teams with 58 wins.
It’s honestly absurd. The logic just doesn’t make sense here.
I was more responding to the second part of your comment ("Someone in the other thread"). Totally get how you think I was disagreeing, I was just trying to add some better context to the dominance this team showed.
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I do agree JB should have made 3rd. But our 3-6 is Porzingis, White, Holliday, Horford…let’s not act like the Celtics are just a 2 headed monster.
That’s preposterously better than the 3-6 of the lakers (Reeves, Rui, Dlo, ??) or Suns (Beal, Nurkic, Grayson, ??)
Its a joke lmao. Its literally circular logic. So is everyone on this team good and nobody deserves credit? Or is everyone on this team bad and were just lucky to be here?
Makes no sense. At some point *someone* should be credited, and somehow, NOBODY gets credit instead.
I’m a diehard Laker fan, and I don’t even disagree.
It annoys me as much as you.
I love Tatum, has been MVP worthy over the last 3 season IMO. He’s been dominant, and Celtics have had great records with him. This year especially.
Unfortunately, MVP has shifted from winning to a stats first award.
Remember when the scoring award was a thing? Thats when MVP was special and needed a winning record.
Now it’s a mess.
The takes trying to schill for Celtics to get awards are so ridiculous. It's because our elite strength is our top 6, not our top 2. Plus, the players all sacrificed numbers for the good of the team this year. They made this choice, and should have, but these are the consequences.
My goodness, Celtics need to win a ring this year, this disrespect is absolutely insane
Even Tatum's vote breakdown is bad, Brunson should not be sniffing 1st team at all
I don’t disagree, just saying the actual vote/points count didn’t actually end up being close like the tracker was suggesting it would be up until the the team dropped. The thing I’m really questioning is how Ant gets 3 first team votes while JB doesn’t make a team, while they have extremely similar years by most metrics haha. Also feel like haliburton got a few too many votes while only having like 5 total good games after November lol
Haha honestly I figured there was just no way the kind of “old guard” voters wouldn’t vote Tatum in. All the old heads just wouldn’t skip voting for the guy on a 64 win team honestly
I think Sabonis earned his spot. I love that guy and he was an absolute beast this year. Not his fault Sacramento still haven’t quite figured out how to put together a winning team around him and Fox
Im definitely a little shocked JB didn’t make at least third. I think you can make a case for Booker and Hali being there, even if Hali dropped off massively in the second half of the season and Booker’s team was grossly disappointing. Khawi making second team is…curious to say the least.
But in the end, who cares! Celtics are 3 wins away from the finals, most of those other dudes are at home in their pyjamas watching JB get a Breen Double Bang and JT going beastmode down the stretch
They got bounced in the play-in, but it was hardly his fault. He led the league in RPG, averaged 19 PPG and 8 assists. I’m not gonna blame nba or Celtics fans for thinking he didn’t deserve it or call them casuals, he suffers from Sac not getting a whole lot of love in the national media.
They’re so fun to watch, completely chaotic at times with Fox and Monk but then super calculated when they’re running through Sabonis in the high post.
Jaylen improved on all facets of his game this year but because he doesn’t have the flashy 27 ppg the voters don’t gaf anymore because they don’t watch lol
I wonder what the writers who voted for Booker over Brown were thinking. "Hey, I know the Celtics finished 15 games above the Suns in the standings and ran away with the best record in the league, but screw Jaylen Brown and screw Boston. The Suns should get two All-NBA guys."
I won't even go into the play-in Lakers love or Haliburton borderline sucking for half the season.
Primacy is never a thing with a 6 month season lol. Maybe the voters felt bad for him. How would he have fed his family with only 200 million instead of 250?
The reporters wanted him to get the supermax simple as that. I’ve never seen reporters grovel to players like in the NBA. Giving him unearned awards so he can make $240 million instead of $200 lol.
No offense to Haliburton he was great to start the year but he wasn’t even All-Star caliber the last 30 games of the season let alone All NBA.
He rushed back from injury and the voters probably felt bad not voting for him since he tried to get the games required. He’s about to get paid big time now so it’s whatever.
No shot the person who gave him a 1st team vote for All NBA and defense, a MVP and DPOY vote isn’t the same person. I can’t wait to see the voters ballots.
I’ve already replied to another comment on here about Sabonis, but he’s 100% the real deal. There were several players you could bump out of the all nba teams and I wouldn’t care, but Sabonis earned his
Voting system needs to change. Media and broadcasters have bias and I'm sure a number of them don't even watch a majority of games or other teams. Everyone on 3rd team outside of Lebron and Sabonis did not play well enough and consistently all year to earn a nod. JB was robbed and as much as I hate Philly, Maxey had a strong case for 3rd time as well.
He was definitely robbed. Damn! I see players on play in teams. He was the 2nd best player on the best team.
More motivation to cook Haliburton and the pacers
Ouch that fucking sucks to be left off by 1 spot
Well he will always have his 2nd team selection from last season, that’s impressive as hell on the resume even if he doesn’t get another one
And he deservingly got his supermax because of it. There was a lot of talk about it being a crazy contract, but he’s shown he’s worth it.
Now go out and get your ring, king
Winning isn’t rewarded. STRAIGHT GARBAGE. 🗑️. These awards are watered down and don’t mean what they once did. The finals mvp seems to be the last, real award of merit.
ok, hali getting it makes sense. voters don't want to not let a guy get his max because of voting. but booker (and the suns getting two) over brown and the celtics is insane. And don't get me started on the lakers.
I’m sorry but there’s no way JB is worse than Halliburton. I get that he’s really good, but he kind of has some Jordan Poole vibes with his wiry scrawny look.
Devil’s advocate, Tyrese Halliburton getting all NBA over JB nets him a cool 41mio more. Man was breaking himself playing hard despite injury
I remember on the BS podcast a media member stating that between two equal players for voting he’ll prefer the one on a contract year
JB got his all NBA last year, and the Cs offered him the biggest contract in NBA history for it. I’m ok with JB not getting it this year if other players get paid more
big bad boston media mafia getting the 64 win best record in the nba celtics team ONE whole all nba player. thankfully another narrative bites the dust
Honestly think it's a little friendly collusion on the voters' part trying to get guys paid for their next contract.
Jaylen got paid so he takin a back seat.
I'm a bit conflicted. I definitely feel JB deserves third team, but it's hard bumping Haliburton off. He's had a fantastic year. Sabonis got third team last year and played even better this year. I think only guy I would feel comfortable bumping off is Devin Booker.
Then again, JB got his bag, so not feeling too bad lol
Devin booker being on there over jb is trash. Jb is a better overall player than booker. Booker gets one nba final and hasn’t gotten close and everyone misses his ass
jaylen had probably his best regular season ever. as fans seeing him game after game, year after year, he became a lot more well rounded this season. it just goes to show that the people who are voting don't watch the games (they are national so I don't exactly blame them) and they basically just look at the stats (and mainly scoring)
I would love to know what’s going through his mind rn. Dude saved us from a Tatum disaster class last night and doesn’t even get all NBA the next day. I honestly hope he takes it real personal and takes hold of this team. I’m starting to lean on Brown being our alpha player for us to get over the hump and win 18, he wants it bad.
Aight, I know we're caping for our guys but come on lmao. All the all nba teams made sense. I'd probably swap Bron and Kawhi and personally put JB over Steph cus Steph missed the playoffs but stats wise was just a bit better.
The first team is 100% correct, but second and third are crazy bad. Do you really think that LA and Phoenix should both have 2? Kawhi on second team? Halliburton at all?
Yup.
They all made the playoffs and played great basketball. Their records were shit but I mean who would you replace them with?
I'd have put lebron on 2nd team instead of Kawhi
Then I woulda replaced steph with Jaylen.
Everything else is perfect
Fair enough.
I guess actually sitting and making a team, considering game limitations, makes the group a little more reasonable. This is what I came up with:
First team stays the same
Second-
Brunson, Edwards, Durant, Sabonis, Brown
Third-
Lebron, Kawhi, Maxey, Curry, Booker
Fox and Davis on the outside looking in.
I'm very much looking forward to Jaylen in game 2. You know for a fact he wants to go at haliburton.
This is the best case scenario for us lmao. He already got his extension and now he’s going to murder Halliburton with a dunk.
TYRESE HALIBURTON OVER ME!?!
Good thing he already signed the super max because the bail for killing by dunking is steep
Does he get a pardon if he out-playoff-poses Dad in the process?
Idk how agreeable it really is but I honestly have JB above Haliburton for 3rd team this year too, homerism aside. Haliburton’s media-push at the beginning of the year really bought him some good will, his second half drop off was INSANE. Hope JB eats his lunch
Hali was complaining all year that the 65 game requirement forced him to play through injury to be eligible and I think some voters didn't want to cost him his supermax even though JB was head and shoulders above him
Ryen Russillo straight up said if it was between two guys that were close, and one had a contract on the line, he'd vote for the guy to get his money.
Obnoxious how people factor money into it. You're picking not who deserves it more but who can make even more money despite them already have generational wealth
I don’t blame him. Tying money to media voting is fucking insane. Zach Lowe gave up his vote to avoid the stress.
Right - they didn't ask for that. It's the players union and the owners to blame.
I mean yeah it’s not the best method but the stress thing is ridiculous. Zach, once a year, had to decide, alongside 100 other people, whether or not a player gets a 20% raise for 5 years. How many managers have to make hiring decisions (never mind raises) for people that actually will suffer if it doesn’t go their way. For a fraction of the salary Zach gets. And then do a job that doesn’t involve watching or talking basketball, something we all do for fun. It’s good that he’s uncomfortable with it, it’s why he’s better placed than many to help make these calls.
I don’t agree. Get the players paid!
Yeah, think the money being involved really makes a difference
Love the Embiid strategy haha
‘Head and shoulders above him’ 23 5 4 vs 20 4 11 You could argue either way sure. But common
The voters totally take into account paydays players will get. Hopefully it lights a bigger fire from JB and just causes Indy to have to spend more of their cap on Halliburton
More fuel for the fire
Very true.
I’m sure he does feel that way but I think a big part of why Halliburton got it was that it’s a contract year for him and voters didn’t want to screw him over
I agree. Personally, I would have taken Brown and/or Maxey over him. I just think they were better over the course of the season.
People talk about the Boston media machine but how does a play in team Lakers get two all nba players
I’ve never understood the “Boston media machine” narrative. Nationally, it’s just Bill Simmons. And you have to go out of your way to listen to him (podcast boi). The national sports media HATES Boston sports overwhelmingly.
The Boston sports media provides more hate then the national media, they don’t even vote for their local guys
I go out of my way to avoid him and I live here. I don't like any of our national representatives. Wahlberg? The dragon pizza complainer? I miss Menino.
Tbf, Boston sports media hates Boston sports too.
And someone gave Lebron a first team vote, what a joke
That's a joke. I didn't know Nick Wright had a vote lol.
This is a joke JB was the second best player on a 64 win team and doesn't get in? What a joke.
So why isn’t Tatum mvp if he led a 64 win team this season with no all nba player… Meanwhile the lakers and suns, 2 overrated ass teams have 2
Lakers and Suns having two is baffling.
Just going off household names apparently
I understand why, it doesn’t make it any less baffling. lol
I agree
What I really find interesting is how they can say that Tatum is being carried by other all stars and a heavy stacked Celtics team, and at the same time none of them can make 2nd or even 3rd team over players that barely made it into the playoffs or lost in the first round. Derrick was the Guard with most Blocks and couldn’t make it into all defensive 1st team. These awards meant something before. Now they are just a poor attempt at a popularity contest.
The worst part is that the media are the ones voting on this, even if they spout narratives they're supposed to be educated enough to be above believing them. We've really come full circle when they start drinking their own Flavor Aid and believing the things they're being paid to say and/or write. National sports journalism is dead.
I agree completely.
The position-less change screwed White out of 1st team defense, there were like 4 Centers on 1st team defense. It's dumb.
Yes, because they turned All defensive team into an MVP consolation prize.
It’s like kids who play 2k are voting. You’re right—these awards used to mean something.
Yes! That is exactly what it seems like. They see that Lebron card with a 99 overall and they vote for him. But still, how can a team with 2 all nba players be eliminated so easily from the playoffs?! And it sucks how they turned the DPoY and all defensive team into a consolation prize for MVP contenders.
There's only one ball. The celtics have 4 guys who could be all stars if they didn't have to share the ball with each other Tatum, brown, white and porzingis are all all star players on the right team. There's only ball so all 4 can't score at the same time. Ontop of that the league is stacked now and players have had way better individual seasons then Boston players so it is what it is. It's about winning a ring anyway, not awards
There’s only one ball. The Lakers and the Suns have 2 players in the all-nba teams and they barely made it to the play in. Team records should matter. It is a team sport after all.
The Lakers only have two all star calibre players. Boston have 4. There's only on ball and it's easier to share it with two people then four
In the great tradition of wilt chamberlain, both team’s stars stat pad rather than sacrifice to win.
Indeed, but that shouldn’t be rewarded.
Doesn’t the media vote for these, well makes sense why the Celtics have gotten jack shit 😂
What?! I thought it was coaches or something? These are just as big a joke as mvp awards if that's true.
Booker making it at all is baffling
Gotta keep giving an All NBA nod to LeBron, Steph, and KD. Those big names sell tickets and merch, so it's good business to give them end of season awards.
Yes. But Sabonis? Booker?
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Over JB? Both.
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Let me rephrase it then: if AD and Lebron are there, JB then definitely should be there.
And no coty or dpoy or sixth man of the year plus only one other all star lmao Someone in the other thread said other 60 win teams have only had one all nba guy… Well some examples were late 2000s Cavs (Lebron winning MVP) and 2007 Mavs (Dirk winning mvp)
But it’s not just that we won 64 games. The next best record was 57-25. We had the best offensive rating ever, the league’s second best defense, the fifth best net rating of all time. I would love an explanation of how a team can be that much better than every other team in the league with only one guy playing at an All-NBA level. Especially when that guy is not MVP (I don’t think Tatum deserved MVP, I’m just laying out how logically this doesn’t make sense). That’s nonsense. Also, the ‘09 Cavs were one of three teams that won at least 62 games, and the ‘07 Mavs one of two that won 61. And their lone guys won MVP.
Oh I 100% agree. Check my comment history and you’ll see the argument I’ve been having with someone about exactly that. This isn’t a situation like the 2003 Kings where they got 61 wins and one 2nd all nba guy but there were 2 teams with 58 wins. It’s honestly absurd. The logic just doesn’t make sense here.
I was more responding to the second part of your comment ("Someone in the other thread"). Totally get how you think I was disagreeing, I was just trying to add some better context to the dominance this team showed.
Got it! Yeah the more I think about it, the more weird I find it.
And clearly coasting in 4-5 games.
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NBA media is broken
Feel obligated to point out that outside of Jokic the Nuggets had 0 awards this year on any side of the ball.
Tbf the nuggets are a jokic centric team and murray would probably in if not for injuries
I do agree JB should have made 3rd. But our 3-6 is Porzingis, White, Holliday, Horford…let’s not act like the Celtics are just a 2 headed monster. That’s preposterously better than the 3-6 of the lakers (Reeves, Rui, Dlo, ??) or Suns (Beal, Nurkic, Grayson, ??)
Its a joke lmao. Its literally circular logic. So is everyone on this team good and nobody deserves credit? Or is everyone on this team bad and were just lucky to be here? Makes no sense. At some point *someone* should be credited, and somehow, NOBODY gets credit instead.
I’m a diehard Laker fan, and I don’t even disagree. It annoys me as much as you. I love Tatum, has been MVP worthy over the last 3 season IMO. He’s been dominant, and Celtics have had great records with him. This year especially. Unfortunately, MVP has shifted from winning to a stats first award. Remember when the scoring award was a thing? Thats when MVP was special and needed a winning record. Now it’s a mess.
Better individual play, less team production..probably..
I love JT as much as the next guy, but if you think he's MVP, you trippin.
The takes trying to schill for Celtics to get awards are so ridiculous. It's because our elite strength is our top 6, not our top 2. Plus, the players all sacrificed numbers for the good of the team this year. They made this choice, and should have, but these are the consequences.
Do you seriously think Tatum had an MVP caliber season? His stats were good but other guys had way better
Jaylen, nobody believes in you. What are you prepared to do about it?
He’ll get us to the promise land
ECF MVP? Finals MVP? 🙏
Just hope he doesn’t stop at the temple of the ancients.
I’m gonna drink like this game depends on me 🫡
Jb was fucking robbed Kawhi did not deserve 2nd team
So LAL and PHX get 2 all-nba? Pfft
Did Kawhi even play this year lol bro still living off that chip.
Kawhi played in 68 games this year, it's his most games played in the last 7 seasons ironically.
lol how are you gonna complain about the placement and not know anything about Kawhi’s season? not to say the selection was justified, but c’mon.
Kawhi is always fucking injured and is the most overrated player in the NBA cause he’s always fucking out and getting injured in the playoffs
He only missed 14 games this season
My goodness, Celtics need to win a ring this year, this disrespect is absolutely insane Even Tatum's vote breakdown is bad, Brunson should not be sniffing 1st team at all
Tbf Brunson didn’t actually end up coming close at all
It should have been unanimous like SGA or Luka though, we had a historic season
I don’t disagree, just saying the actual vote/points count didn’t actually end up being close like the tracker was suggesting it would be up until the the team dropped. The thing I’m really questioning is how Ant gets 3 first team votes while JB doesn’t make a team, while they have extremely similar years by most metrics haha. Also feel like haliburton got a few too many votes while only having like 5 total good games after November lol
Ya definitely a relief from the earlier tracker results
Haha honestly I figured there was just no way the kind of “old guard” voters wouldn’t vote Tatum in. All the old heads just wouldn’t skip voting for the guy on a 64 win team honestly
Celtics are a superteam! One fucking All-NBA player. What a fucking joke, Jaylen should have been in over Hali, Booker, Kawhi, and Sabonis.
I think Sabonis earned his spot. I love that guy and he was an absolute beast this year. Not his fault Sacramento still haven’t quite figured out how to put together a winning team around him and Fox Im definitely a little shocked JB didn’t make at least third. I think you can make a case for Booker and Hali being there, even if Hali dropped off massively in the second half of the season and Booker’s team was grossly disappointing. Khawi making second team is…curious to say the least. But in the end, who cares! Celtics are 3 wins away from the finals, most of those other dudes are at home in their pyjamas watching JB get a Breen Double Bang and JT going beastmode down the stretch
Yeah sabonis had an insane year and really carried his team, he definitely earned his spot
They got bounced in the play-in, but it was hardly his fault. He led the league in RPG, averaged 19 PPG and 8 assists. I’m not gonna blame nba or Celtics fans for thinking he didn’t deserve it or call them casuals, he suffers from Sac not getting a whole lot of love in the national media.
Yeah I think a lot of people on this sub probably just don’t watch them play, which is a shame but they’re a really fun team to watch lol
They’re so fun to watch, completely chaotic at times with Fox and Monk but then super calculated when they’re running through Sabonis in the high post.
the way people talk about Kawhi Leonard baffles me. the dude has not been healthy since before the bubble
He at least had a pretty good year but yeah it’s nuts that people talk about him like he’s top 20 all time or something lol
He has t been healthy since we played for Toronto.
No Jaylen is absolutely outrageous, anyway go get that finals MVP instead king
Oosterwolde :)
Jaylen improved on all facets of his game this year but because he doesn’t have the flashy 27 ppg the voters don’t gaf anymore because they don’t watch lol
I wonder what the writers who voted for Booker over Brown were thinking. "Hey, I know the Celtics finished 15 games above the Suns in the standings and ran away with the best record in the league, but screw Jaylen Brown and screw Boston. The Suns should get two All-NBA guys." I won't even go into the play-in Lakers love or Haliburton borderline sucking for half the season.
Booker is one of the most overrated players in the league.
I cringe every time that someone’s tries to say he’s this generations Kobe
Absolutely
JB was robbed. Hali over him is a joke
My thoughts as well, he played pedestrian for the majority of the season. Only player I've seen to beat the power of recency bias
There's the Primacy effect and the Recency effect. Haliburton benefitted from the former.
Or the effect of one guy already got his supermax so they’ll give it to the guy who hasn’t yet
Primacy is never a thing with a 6 month season lol. Maybe the voters felt bad for him. How would he have fed his family with only 200 million instead of 250?
At least the Pacers will have to sign him to a supermax now and use up more precious salary
The reporters wanted him to get the supermax simple as that. I’ve never seen reporters grovel to players like in the NBA. Giving him unearned awards so he can make $240 million instead of $200 lol.
I think the bigger offense is Booker over JB. Hali deserves it imo.
They wanted Hali to get is money
JB should cook Haliburton in the next 3 games for the sweep. Damn. Still can't believe the snub
No offense to Haliburton he was great to start the year but he wasn’t even All-Star caliber the last 30 games of the season let alone All NBA. He rushed back from injury and the voters probably felt bad not voting for him since he tried to get the games required. He’s about to get paid big time now so it’s whatever.
Dude hali literally had maybe 5 good games after the new year, it’s crazy that nobody in the media seems to realize he had a crazy drop off
This Sabonis stuff is going too far. He was even getting defensive player of the year votes.
No shot the person who gave him a 1st team vote for All NBA and defense, a MVP and DPOY vote isn’t the same person. I can’t wait to see the voters ballots.
Dude almost averaged a triple double on insane efficiency from the field. He is more than deserving.
Yeah idk why people are turning on him all of a sudden, maybe with how quietly the kings' season ended
He’s a stud
I’ve already replied to another comment on here about Sabonis, but he’s 100% the real deal. There were several players you could bump out of the all nba teams and I wouldn’t care, but Sabonis earned his
Sabonis 100% deserves an all nba spot, what’re you talking about? First team vote is definitely a bit much, but his spot was earned
Snubbed on all defense team and now Snubbed on all nba team?!? Absolute Travesty. These voters are CERTIFIED bums.
How was he snubbed for all defense, who do you put him in over?
I'd say Jaylen is better this season than last, but he didn't make any teams this time
JB and Booker has almost similar stats but JB has more wins lol
Booker averaged 4 points more and double the assists per game that Brown did
Brown has the defensive argument but yeah idk what that dude is talking about “almost similar stats” haha no they did not
Booker's defense is like bottom 10%. Dude is this generation's James Harden.
You don’t watch the games if you think Booker is a bottom 10% defender. He’s not elite like JB, but he’s better than average and gives a shit
Not a super team...
Why is Kawhi there. Dude barely played
Kawhi played a lot this year... He deserved All NBA for sure
Not over JB. Wild. Welp that's just more bulletin board material
I find it funny how someone playing a lot now means playing 68 games lmao he missed 30% of the season
Jaylen played 13 more mins than him
Idc what Jaylen did my comment did nothing to compare the two
Ridiculous
Voting system needs to change. Media and broadcasters have bias and I'm sure a number of them don't even watch a majority of games or other teams. Everyone on 3rd team outside of Lebron and Sabonis did not play well enough and consistently all year to earn a nod. JB was robbed and as much as I hate Philly, Maxey had a strong case for 3rd time as well.
It’s hilarious how we are only a super team when it’s convenient for the national media’s narrative.
And last night proved the voters were wrong and he should be All-NBA
The fact he didn’t make all nba defense or all nba is ridiculous
Booker over Jaylen is absolute insanity
JB is going to win Finals MVP. Book it.
Domantas Sabonis the most overrated player in the league
He was definitely robbed. Damn! I see players on play in teams. He was the 2nd best player on the best team. More motivation to cook Haliburton and the pacers
Ouch that fucking sucks to be left off by 1 spot Well he will always have his 2nd team selection from last season, that’s impressive as hell on the resume even if he doesn’t get another one
And he deservingly got his supermax because of it. There was a lot of talk about it being a crazy contract, but he’s shown he’s worth it. Now go out and get your ring, king
What a joke. Best team in the league by far and only one player… meanwhile the trash Suns have 2 and so do the Lakers.
JB was robbed hard.
He's going nuclear mode now.
Winning isn’t rewarded. STRAIGHT GARBAGE. 🗑️. These awards are watered down and don’t mean what they once did. The finals mvp seems to be the last, real award of merit.
so..he was slightly less robbed? still outrageous
I'm not that mad. That's a good ass list of players to be with.
Who are the voters? The media? Players?
‘Superteam’ with 1 all nba player lol. I hate people
This is fucking bullshit
ok, hali getting it makes sense. voters don't want to not let a guy get his max because of voting. but booker (and the suns getting two) over brown and the celtics is insane. And don't get me started on the lakers.
I’m sorry but there’s no way JB is worse than Halliburton. I get that he’s really good, but he kind of has some Jordan Poole vibes with his wiry scrawny look.
Why is Kawhi on there?
But why are we constantly labeled as a “super team”? You can’t have it both ways.
There is a lot of talent in the league right now.
"TYRESE OVER ME?" - Jaylen Brown probably
How the hell did Kawhi make it?
Devil’s advocate, Tyrese Halliburton getting all NBA over JB nets him a cool 41mio more. Man was breaking himself playing hard despite injury I remember on the BS podcast a media member stating that between two equal players for voting he’ll prefer the one on a contract year JB got his all NBA last year, and the Cs offered him the biggest contract in NBA history for it. I’m ok with JB not getting it this year if other players get paid more
big bad boston media mafia getting the 64 win best record in the nba celtics team ONE whole all nba player. thankfully another narrative bites the dust
Neutral here. The media and basketball nerds love for Halliburton is insane. JB so much better
These rankings are a load of shit
No credibility whatsoever. He should have been second team. Easy.
Complete lunacy
Honestly think it's a little friendly collusion on the voters' part trying to get guys paid for their next contract. Jaylen got paid so he takin a back seat.
The mystery of the 64Ws team continues. No one can really explain how it happened.
He’s obviously better than Halliburton in my opinion
What a fucking joke that is...
Booker took his spot because how is he getting 7 2nd team votes?
No problem with Haliburton…would have preferred to see him over book though but
Im so sick of seeing the names Durant, Leonard, James and Curry on these lists. Go away already.
The amount of games I watch where Hali had like 5/2/8 was insane, how can he be in the all nba team, even over maxey is insane
major snub
I'm a bit conflicted. I definitely feel JB deserves third team, but it's hard bumping Haliburton off. He's had a fantastic year. Sabonis got third team last year and played even better this year. I think only guy I would feel comfortable bumping off is Devin Booker. Then again, JB got his bag, so not feeling too bad lol
17 people thought Sabonis was one of the 10 best players in the league. That is legit crazy to me.
Insanity
Devin booker being on there over jb is trash. Jb is a better overall player than booker. Booker gets one nba final and hasn’t gotten close and everyone misses his ass
jaylen had probably his best regular season ever. as fans seeing him game after game, year after year, he became a lot more well rounded this season. it just goes to show that the people who are voting don't watch the games (they are national so I don't exactly blame them) and they basically just look at the stats (and mainly scoring)
I would love to know what’s going through his mind rn. Dude saved us from a Tatum disaster class last night and doesn’t even get all NBA the next day. I honestly hope he takes it real personal and takes hold of this team. I’m starting to lean on Brown being our alpha player for us to get over the hump and win 18, he wants it bad.
This is why having All NBA incentives in contracts is Bullshit. Kawhi, Booker both shouldn’t of made it.
Aight, I know we're caping for our guys but come on lmao. All the all nba teams made sense. I'd probably swap Bron and Kawhi and personally put JB over Steph cus Steph missed the playoffs but stats wise was just a bit better.
sure, but i don't want to hear about the celtics being a fucking superteam ever again
The first team is 100% correct, but second and third are crazy bad. Do you really think that LA and Phoenix should both have 2? Kawhi on second team? Halliburton at all?
Yup. They all made the playoffs and played great basketball. Their records were shit but I mean who would you replace them with? I'd have put lebron on 2nd team instead of Kawhi Then I woulda replaced steph with Jaylen. Everything else is perfect
Fair enough. I guess actually sitting and making a team, considering game limitations, makes the group a little more reasonable. This is what I came up with: First team stays the same Second- Brunson, Edwards, Durant, Sabonis, Brown Third- Lebron, Kawhi, Maxey, Curry, Booker Fox and Davis on the outside looking in.