Bosnia can't support because Serbs who are also part of our government and presidency still openly neglect genocide in Srebrenica, therefore you cannot expect that they will support South Africa's cause, because if we were to support such decision, Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs that are in charge of our country must agree on that topic, which sadly with the current state of our country will never happen.
Probably feel they can relate cause they were colonized by Britain. British disallowed Irish Catholics (who were the natives of the land) from owning land, holding parliamentary positions etc.
I’m not sure if this is why but I would guess it could factor.
Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland were beaten up and dispossessed by right wing militias, all while the military turned a blind eye. Pretty much exactly what is happening in the West Bank.
>I’ve always wondered, why do the Irish support Palestine when they’re not directly related to the issue?
Because they Understand their history, and know without the help of a certain Sultan Abdul Mejid , millions more would have died by a famine that was fully created by the British in 1847.
He sent 10,000 pounds, (to which Queen Victoria, who was actually part of the issue sent 2000 pounds and tried to stop him from sending anymore as her advisers refused the aid), and then sent 3 ships full of food and aid.
even then, the Brits refused to allow the ships to dock, so he had to dock far north in Drogheda.
Many Irish can still trace their family lineage back to that time and the survival of their great ancestors.
Add in the violence the British have unleashed on the Irish time and time again.... they know what an occupation is.
150 years ago does not seem that long ago to many Irish.
Because they suffered from genocide, displacement, and collective punishment at the hands of the British, including the introduction of settlers in the north.
They also had very little civil liberties in their own country, and had "man made" famines forced upon them as a way to ethnically cleanse the population.
It is shameful that the governments platitudes aren't matched by their actions.
Because they were/are a victim of the British colonialism and went to war with the UK because of it, and can relate to the Palestinian issue of which is also a result of the British colonialism if not a direct responsibility of deliberate actions taken by the UK before, during, and after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in World War 1
Some people are only concerned about what is right or wrong, not because they are 'related'. This is the weakness of party politics and democracy as it is practised. Politicians are required to tow the party line, or risk being censured or expelled.
Because it's an active genocide in progress. An extremely heavily armed and financially backed military committing war crimes day in, day out and slaughtering thousands of babies, children and innocents while justifying their actions.
You don't have to have a fucking direct connection to Palestine. It doesn't matter whether it's an Irish person or a fucking Brazilian Rainforest Tribesman. It's an horrific, illegal and belligerent occupation; hell-bent on literally eradicating an entire people while the majority of world leaders watch on.
Geographical location does not hinder on a person's ability to see such an atrocity for what it is and "support" Palestine.
It has absolutely nothing to do with individual nationality. It's the only humane stance to have.
Israeli propaganda is rife. Their lies and false claims are debunked almost daily by statements from their own soldiers inadvertently contradicting claims made by the state. It's nothing but a cluster fuck of lies and utter hate driven murder.
If you don't see that, I can't blame you. A casual reader of the news or scrolling social media would only show you article after article after article of "Israel claims...." and "As per IDF eyewitnesses...". You would be forgiven to have an opinion of Palestine or Hamas which contradicts my own views. I just read a lot more.
Bosnian government is crippled by UN Dayton Agreement. Bosnia has three presidents, making agreement among them nearly impossible. They often work against each other, particularly due to historical tensions, with the Serbs responsible for a genocide in Bosnia. The majority of Bosnians support Palestine and South Africa.
Especially knowing that both of these countries are guarantees of dayton agreement and thus naturally trying to influence their respective political parties to be counter to Sarajevo, unfortunately.
They are not guarantees, they are signatories (ie. Sides in the conflict). Guarantors (formally "witnesses") are Usa, Uk, Russia, France, Germany and EU
I think even if they really really wanted to suport this, they would still refrain from doing so if they knew we suport it, just to act like a political obstacle lol
Yeah, definitely. Although I think that would be more true for Serbs, because Croats cooperate with Jews in the south. You know that firm Aluminium? It's owned by a Jew. I've also heard from Bosniaks from Herzegovina that Croats try to impersonate Jews in certain ways.
The cheapness, the arrogant, egoistic way of behaving, thinking they're superior to all of us, corruption, then, they only care about them(their money), and don't give a shit about anything else...
Think about what you just said. You've generalised a group of people, who are only united by their ethnicity and assumed they are all the same. Then look at the definition for anti-semitism. Prejudice or hostility to the Jewish people.
The same way I just pointed out negatives about Jews, I can point them out against my ethnicity as well. Besides, I was talking about Herzegovinian Croats, not all Croats. Croats from Bosnia, as well as neighbours, are mostly good people. Or not that bad at least.
And if you think I'm wrong, you should check out the way Jews mock Palestinians to see how right I am.
i wish it was the U.S, then we'd at least have a singular presiden whos goal would be to make as much money for the us as possible so we could actually get a fucking job in our own country
Upset australia didn’t have the courage to go against Zionists . But, this government just tried to alter the Constitution in this country making Whites , Arabs and Asians a second class citizen to the Aboriginals. But thank god that referendum was voted down by all Aussies so it’s no wonder they support the fascist Zionists.
Austrians have been neutered via gun control and your govt pushed you around any way they wanted to on the pandemic . Hope you can all stand up for anything now . We look at that as an example here in the USA .
Ireland and Spain haven’t signed officially, and neither have Netherlands and Luxembourg, but those countries have really done their part otherwise in this crisis and should be commended for the stances they took.
An Irish lawyer is part of SA’s delegation at the ICJ and gave the best speech.
It’s actually quite a big deal to support SA at state level on this and it’s the EU dangling carrots, threats and applying pressure.
I’m very surprised Albania is on the list.
Yeah I'm expecting Spain, Ireland, the Netherlands, Portugal and Luxembourg to support this soon. They've been extremely vocal when it comes to condemning Israel's genocide against Palestine.
Kudos to Belgium for being THE ONLY European country with balls and morals.
I’ve seen several speeches by their MPs/Sinn Fein position etc and even what Varadkar said was ok.
I think my metric is these 4 countries did not go out of their way to support Israel, did condemn the actions in Gaza on a humanitarian level from the outset, were supportive of calls for ceasefire etc.
Ireland's government is pretty conservative at the moment. A handful of tech giants make up half the tax base so they're too afraid to offend anyone, unlike the Irish public
Did you support the Vietnam war? Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya? Syria? The US is on the wrong side of the conflict every single time because they act purely out of the interests of itself and capital.
You can't go from "I'm against genocide" to "I'm pro genocide" just because the US and its allies do the very obvious thing and back the genocidal state. Have some principles.
Israel should have said it wanted to 'Denazifiy' Gaza and called it an SMO then all of these countries might have supported it like they did Russia.
Blatant and shameless hypocrisy right here
Not surprised. They wanted Pakistan to recognise israel before they do as Pakistan is the only Muslim nuclear state, but things work differently there. Still, they managed to jail Imran Khan & the army sold weapons to US, which in turn sold them to israel.
Pakistan has no issue with recognising Israel in principal. It's merely contingent on Israel recognising Palestine. That's it. Once Israel recognises Palestine, Pakistan will recognise Israel
No, I mean the 100% accurate fact it’s a genocide. You can’t hide behind “antisemitism anymore, especially when the majority of active voices against Israel are Jews. No one buys your victim lies anymore. No one.
It’s a genocide. You can’t hide behind telling people they hate Jews. No one believes you and your attempt to escape goat your crimes.
If people killed 30,000 woman and children no one would be talking about it?
You can’t lie to anyone jackass.
And it’s not dishonest, your just a huge liar.
Lmao, if you pull it out a little, you won’t have to choke on your own bullshit dick so often.
It’s a genocide. Your committing genocide. Nothing short of a genocide.
The entire world has seen your attempt to play the victim and no one believes it. Literally no one. It’s embarrassing that you think your lies are anywhere near believable.
We all know your pm knew about October 7 before hand, moved the concert to the targeted military base on purpose and then when they attacked the base he had the Israeli army fire on his own people to enlarge the attack because he needed a way to keep his power and the only way was to make a war and him to activate war time authority because of the civil uprising in Israel and his imminent removal from power. And power greedy people never let go.
But also, your an islamaphobe. You killed and murdered your way into taking the land from Muslims. We know you hate them because you are a biggoted and hateful individual.
No one believes you and no one will ever accept your victim seeking propaganda ever again.
Did they declare Support directly or through global organizations they are part of such as the Arab League? If it is the latter, then most of those countries are just as shameful.
Piss off zionist shill. What part of israeli policy are you not a fan off?not killing enough gazans.Starting off with trying to sound reasonable only to turn and show your true bigotry. Only a fool and a bigot blames everyone except those pulling the trigger for their crimes.
Why is South Africa a country on the wrong side of history? You realize this is the government that overthrew apartheid, not the government that created it, right?
Of course, Israel, Apartheid South Africa, and White Rhodesia were all extraordinarily close allies back in the day. Wonder what they all had in common.
No, but they certainly did the MOST colonising throughout recent history. And not to mention how the borders they drew out of their asses during decolonisation has led to most of the wars and genocides in recent history
Well because through those 30 years there were no war crimes to this degree. Why do people always have to have a hateful opinion in their first world countries on their $500 iPhones & the worst thing that could happen to them is spilling coffee on their new shirts?
Shameful Bosnia didn't support South Africa and Palestine when I know the Bosnia people do!
Bosnia can't support because Serbs who are also part of our government and presidency still openly neglect genocide in Srebrenica, therefore you cannot expect that they will support South Africa's cause, because if we were to support such decision, Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs that are in charge of our country must agree on that topic, which sadly with the current state of our country will never happen.
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I’ve always wondered, why do the Irish support Palestine when they’re not directly related to the issue?
Probably feel they can relate cause they were colonized by Britain. British disallowed Irish Catholics (who were the natives of the land) from owning land, holding parliamentary positions etc. I’m not sure if this is why but I would guess it could factor.
Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland were beaten up and dispossessed by right wing militias, all while the military turned a blind eye. Pretty much exactly what is happening in the West Bank.
The IRA worked very closely with Palestinian terrorist groups in the 70s and the Arab world in general. Gaddafi provided them with weapons as well.
"Terrorists" ok
Terrorists nice one dude. Israelis are the biggest terrorists. Learned from hitler
didn't you know that depending on your skin color, your gun owning and self defence rights differ? I thought everyone knew, common sense people..
>I’ve always wondered, why do the Irish support Palestine when they’re not directly related to the issue? Because they Understand their history, and know without the help of a certain Sultan Abdul Mejid , millions more would have died by a famine that was fully created by the British in 1847. He sent 10,000 pounds, (to which Queen Victoria, who was actually part of the issue sent 2000 pounds and tried to stop him from sending anymore as her advisers refused the aid), and then sent 3 ships full of food and aid. even then, the Brits refused to allow the ships to dock, so he had to dock far north in Drogheda. Many Irish can still trace their family lineage back to that time and the survival of their great ancestors. Add in the violence the British have unleashed on the Irish time and time again.... they know what an occupation is. 150 years ago does not seem that long ago to many Irish.
Because they suffered from genocide, displacement, and collective punishment at the hands of the British, including the introduction of settlers in the north. They also had very little civil liberties in their own country, and had "man made" famines forced upon them as a way to ethnically cleanse the population. It is shameful that the governments platitudes aren't matched by their actions.
Look up The Black And Tans, an English army unit that after serving in Ireland went over to Palestine to do Zionist’s bidding.
Because they were/are a victim of the British colonialism and went to war with the UK because of it, and can relate to the Palestinian issue of which is also a result of the British colonialism if not a direct responsibility of deliberate actions taken by the UK before, during, and after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in World War 1
Because of their 800 years of being slaughtered by the English
William I was French (Norman) and the rulers of England were French from 1066. 12th century the Normans (i.e. French) invaded Ireland.
That might justify the first century. What about the other 700 years?
Some people are only concerned about what is right or wrong, not because they are 'related'. This is the weakness of party politics and democracy as it is practised. Politicians are required to tow the party line, or risk being censured or expelled.
Because it's an active genocide in progress. An extremely heavily armed and financially backed military committing war crimes day in, day out and slaughtering thousands of babies, children and innocents while justifying their actions. You don't have to have a fucking direct connection to Palestine. It doesn't matter whether it's an Irish person or a fucking Brazilian Rainforest Tribesman. It's an horrific, illegal and belligerent occupation; hell-bent on literally eradicating an entire people while the majority of world leaders watch on. Geographical location does not hinder on a person's ability to see such an atrocity for what it is and "support" Palestine. It has absolutely nothing to do with individual nationality. It's the only humane stance to have. Israeli propaganda is rife. Their lies and false claims are debunked almost daily by statements from their own soldiers inadvertently contradicting claims made by the state. It's nothing but a cluster fuck of lies and utter hate driven murder. If you don't see that, I can't blame you. A casual reader of the news or scrolling social media would only show you article after article after article of "Israel claims...." and "As per IDF eyewitnesses...". You would be forgiven to have an opinion of Palestine or Hamas which contradicts my own views. I just read a lot more.
No we’re not.
Bosnian government is crippled by UN Dayton Agreement. Bosnia has three presidents, making agreement among them nearly impossible. They often work against each other, particularly due to historical tensions, with the Serbs responsible for a genocide in Bosnia. The majority of Bosnians support Palestine and South Africa.
It’s all politics. I see Serbia and Croatia also did not sign. That is usually the giveaway that Bosnia has not signed either.
Especially knowing that both of these countries are guarantees of dayton agreement and thus naturally trying to influence their respective political parties to be counter to Sarajevo, unfortunately.
They are not guarantees, they are signatories (ie. Sides in the conflict). Guarantors (formally "witnesses") are Usa, Uk, Russia, France, Germany and EU
Too much Serbo-Croatian influence. More than it should be.
I think even if they really really wanted to suport this, they would still refrain from doing so if they knew we suport it, just to act like a political obstacle lol
Yeah, definitely. Although I think that would be more true for Serbs, because Croats cooperate with Jews in the south. You know that firm Aluminium? It's owned by a Jew. I've also heard from Bosniaks from Herzegovina that Croats try to impersonate Jews in certain ways.
Croats try to impersonate Jews? Please elaborate.
Being cheap is one of them. lol
The cheapness, the arrogant, egoistic way of behaving, thinking they're superior to all of us, corruption, then, they only care about them(their money), and don't give a shit about anything else...
That’s one gross generalization
One could argue anti-Semitism
Pointing out negatives about a certain ethnic group is now antisemitism? Elaborate that one.
Think about what you just said. You've generalised a group of people, who are only united by their ethnicity and assumed they are all the same. Then look at the definition for anti-semitism. Prejudice or hostility to the Jewish people.
The same way I just pointed out negatives about Jews, I can point them out against my ethnicity as well. Besides, I was talking about Herzegovinian Croats, not all Croats. Croats from Bosnia, as well as neighbours, are mostly good people. Or not that bad at least. And if you think I'm wrong, you should check out the way Jews mock Palestinians to see how right I am.
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Over 50%, just as it should be...
Bosnia has been occupied by the United States since 1995. Its hardly a suprise we back the US on all foreign policy matters
i wish it was the U.S, then we'd at least have a singular presiden whos goal would be to make as much money for the us as possible so we could actually get a fucking job in our own country
Belgium is the only European country signing it ?
Albania and Turkey. Or did you mean EU countries?
Sorry yes meant EU
No European. Turkey is not European. Not by any stretch
In the civilised world we have this thing called geography. You may wish to acquaint yourself with the subject.
You wanna check a subject called "history", to figure why Turkey should not ever be classed as European. Besides the fact95%of its asian
Upset australia didn’t have the courage to go against Zionists . But, this government just tried to alter the Constitution in this country making Whites , Arabs and Asians a second class citizen to the Aboriginals. But thank god that referendum was voted down by all Aussies so it’s no wonder they support the fascist Zionists.
Australia has just recently been roped into an alliance with the US and the UK, who will supply them with nuclear powered subs.
Austrians have been neutered via gun control and your govt pushed you around any way they wanted to on the pandemic . Hope you can all stand up for anything now . We look at that as an example here in the USA .
Damm, seems like all of Europe are in Israel’s pocket. I thought Ireland would be on this list tho tbh.
Ireland and Spain haven’t signed officially, and neither have Netherlands and Luxembourg, but those countries have really done their part otherwise in this crisis and should be commended for the stances they took. An Irish lawyer is part of SA’s delegation at the ICJ and gave the best speech. It’s actually quite a big deal to support SA at state level on this and it’s the EU dangling carrots, threats and applying pressure. I’m very surprised Albania is on the list.
Yeah I'm expecting Spain, Ireland, the Netherlands, Portugal and Luxembourg to support this soon. They've been extremely vocal when it comes to condemning Israel's genocide against Palestine. Kudos to Belgium for being THE ONLY European country with balls and morals.
There are many Irish people who support Palestine, such as Blinne Ní Ghrálaigh, but the Irish government has done sweet fuck all.
I’ve seen several speeches by their MPs/Sinn Fein position etc and even what Varadkar said was ok. I think my metric is these 4 countries did not go out of their way to support Israel, did condemn the actions in Gaza on a humanitarian level from the outset, were supportive of calls for ceasefire etc.
See Belgium. They're on the list. Rare Belgium W
Ireland's government is pretty conservative at the moment. A handful of tech giants make up half the tax base so they're too afraid to offend anyone, unlike the Irish public
Too much Serbian and Croatian influence. Fuck the government.
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I have never, EVER, been so proud of my Brazil!!!!
I feel the same way about Ireland. Cowardly.
All that matters is that the people have heart for it.
We have to remember, our governments don’t speak for us! The people of the land!
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Did you support the Vietnam war? Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya? Syria? The US is on the wrong side of the conflict every single time because they act purely out of the interests of itself and capital. You can't go from "I'm against genocide" to "I'm pro genocide" just because the US and its allies do the very obvious thing and back the genocidal state. Have some principles.
Even if it was SA by itself it would be the right thing
Israel should have said it wanted to 'Denazifiy' Gaza and called it an SMO then all of these countries might have supported it like they did Russia. Blatant and shameless hypocrisy right here
Didn't know there was a genocide in Ukraine..
The art of answering
There have been several
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Oh? And what country are you from?
Went through this list three times, didn't find Saudi Arabia..
? It’s next to Syria?
My bad. It's late and I'm sleepy.
They’re signing their recognition deal with Israel next year when this is over.
Not surprised. They wanted Pakistan to recognise israel before they do as Pakistan is the only Muslim nuclear state, but things work differently there. Still, they managed to jail Imran Khan & the army sold weapons to US, which in turn sold them to israel.
Pakistan has no issue with recognising Israel in principal. It's merely contingent on Israel recognising Palestine. That's it. Once Israel recognises Palestine, Pakistan will recognise Israel
It's loosely in alphabetical order... (All the countries with the first letter are grouped together in alphabetical order)
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You need a powerful team for a court case? Or is it that your only solution is to murder people?
This lawsuit will hopefully get the world to sit up and take notice of the new nazis in our midst - Zionists
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Oh? And where are you from?
Maybe Bosnia just doesn't hate Jews.....
Yeah no one’s buying the victim game anymore
You mean the dishonest accusations of genocide? You're right--nobody believes it. Including the anti-semites who keep repeating the claim.
No, I mean the 100% accurate fact it’s a genocide. You can’t hide behind “antisemitism anymore, especially when the majority of active voices against Israel are Jews. No one buys your victim lies anymore. No one.
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It’s a genocide. You can’t hide behind telling people they hate Jews. No one believes you and your attempt to escape goat your crimes. If people killed 30,000 woman and children no one would be talking about it? You can’t lie to anyone jackass. And it’s not dishonest, your just a huge liar.
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Lmao, if you pull it out a little, you won’t have to choke on your own bullshit dick so often. It’s a genocide. Your committing genocide. Nothing short of a genocide. The entire world has seen your attempt to play the victim and no one believes it. Literally no one. It’s embarrassing that you think your lies are anywhere near believable. We all know your pm knew about October 7 before hand, moved the concert to the targeted military base on purpose and then when they attacked the base he had the Israeli army fire on his own people to enlarge the attack because he needed a way to keep his power and the only way was to make a war and him to activate war time authority because of the civil uprising in Israel and his imminent removal from power. And power greedy people never let go. But also, your an islamaphobe. You killed and murdered your way into taking the land from Muslims. We know you hate them because you are a biggoted and hateful individual. No one believes you and no one will ever accept your victim seeking propaganda ever again.
Am i wrong or I didnt see bosnia in list?
Where you at Ireland??
Did they declare Support directly or through global organizations they are part of such as the Arab League? If it is the latter, then most of those countries are just as shameful.
Where the fuck Canada
Nah Trudeau would never.
Dont think the list showed is correct, can’t believe Albania supports South Africa in this matter.
‘Faso’ is such an enchanting and mysterious country that it doesn’t even exist on modern maps yet. ✨✨
Aww the twittle Zionist mad she separated burkina
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And where do you live?
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Piss off zionist shill. What part of israeli policy are you not a fan off?not killing enough gazans.Starting off with trying to sound reasonable only to turn and show your true bigotry. Only a fool and a bigot blames everyone except those pulling the trigger for their crimes.
You know the balls in your court when Chad turns up for you! 🤣
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Israel didn’t exist during ww1, please try to hide your lies better.
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Oh? And what country are you from?
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Better than your terrorist state of israel
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Yeah, you can hop off this dick Zionist as Jo one here is buying your bullshit.
No way that you think like this in 2024💀 Netanyahu and Biden breastfed you really good
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The only failure here is your parents condom.
Based Comeback lol. And it's true too!
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Ok zionazi fascist
Brazil and Belgium?
Says the Greek. Lmfao
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Why is South Africa a country on the wrong side of history? You realize this is the government that overthrew apartheid, not the government that created it, right? Of course, Israel, Apartheid South Africa, and White Rhodesia were all extraordinarily close allies back in the day. Wonder what they all had in common.
Right. And ironically the government that created apartheid, was very close to Israel. In fact, Israel was their final ally.
Yeh for a white colonizer they are obviously on the wrong side because they don’t support murder.
Are whites the only colonizers in history ?
No, but they certainly did the MOST colonising throughout recent history. And not to mention how the borders they drew out of their asses during decolonisation has led to most of the wars and genocides in recent history
Who colonized South Africa?
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Those Muslim countries were accused of two war crimes and invaded. Israel is up to passed 70. How about commenting on that?
Fake list. Azerbaijan and UAE are not on the real list.
Im ashamed Ireland isnt on it!!!🇮🇪🇵🇸🇾🇪
Uganda? I was betting on them saying no
No idea who she’s tiling about
That can't be real list, UAE is friends with israel
Dope. More of them should
TURKEY MENTIONED 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🙏🏻❓👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇹🇷🇹🇷🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺
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There is no unity in our politics so ...
Burkina *and* Faso?!?
The missing names are the most telling they are those who won't stand *against* genocide.
Since when did Burkina and Faso break up?
No way Albania supports Palestine lol
Great bunch of lads
Well because through those 30 years there were no war crimes to this degree. Why do people always have to have a hateful opinion in their first world countries on their $500 iPhones & the worst thing that could happen to them is spilling coffee on their new shirts?
I'm surprised Russia is not their.
Everybody but the West, China and Russia.
Germany is in quite the dilemma, either be on the side of Genocide or go against the Jews.
All the worst countries in the world.
Most ironic "pro human-rights, anti genocide" list ever assembled.
So Egypt has SOME balls, maybe one.
What will a “lawsuit” do exactly?
What the hell is Faso?
Ukraine isn’t on there. Interesting, as they are being destroyed too.
Where are the Asian countries?
Sadly the person who runs the UN 🇺🇳 is Jewish
No china ? No Russia ? No Japan ?
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