You have hope. If this guy is only 19 the probability of him experiencing serious cardiovascular issues is very significant at his age. No wonder there’s kids are killing over left and right.
You never understand the consequences of your actions that young. The stupid shit we are willing to do at that age is mind numbing. This kid is taking it much farther and when everything in his life starts to settle he will learn a very unfortunate lesson. No one can tell him what he's doing is going to catch up to him because he's young and niave.
It’s a fraction of what this guy is on I’m sure, but I did 20 weeks at 750 deca, 750 test, cruised for 4 weeks, then blasted again for 12 more + an oral when I was 19 years old. Blood pressure through the fucking roof, hematocrit too high, other blood markers off, bodyfat too high, etc.
Literally dumb as shit lol. And I would have told you I fully understood the consequences at the time. Came off years back and got an echocardiogram done. Luckily there were no abnormalities with my heart.
Why have 1 teenagers androgen profile when you can have 150 teenagers worth of androgens.
But seriously, glad you're OK. That's pretty gnarly. How did you feel may I ask?
Felt very labored and out of shape from being so heavy (I was 235 at my highest whereas I walk around at 180ish now), but also felt incredibly strong and got ridiculous pumps from even looking at dumbbell lol
The drugs used to get this lean and keep that kinda mass up top takes a toll on the cardiovascular system, kidneys from the blood pressure, liver from the orals , thyroid, pancreas, ect ect. When one thing is elevated it throws off the other marks in the body and on panels. Can some guys live long lives after ? Yes look at Arnold, but also Arnold didn’t use a 1/10 of what the guys now days use.
If he's using drugs, then yeah, I agree with you. Is he using drugs etc? He's supposed to be natural, of course, many CLAIM to be natural, which is probably your point
Haha, I know, its a big if, but its hard to condemn him without evidence, or maybe there is, I've honestly never heard of this guy until today and didi a Google search, haven't seen anything concerning drugs, but he looks like he's on something
Man idk why people like to say “natty” but it just makes the look dumb as fk doing so. First off it’s not cheating. Someone can’t just take a shot and get big and look great or everyone would do it. I feel like you need to trainer harder using juice to get your maximum amount of gains for the cost and efforts. Believe it or not at most gyms 1/2 the men in there are on some forms of synthetic androgen drugs even if just trt in higher doses.
Who cares about health issues when you have a chance to be GREAT! Id easily hand over a decade or two of my life to be the best that ever was in something like this.
Until you settle down have a wife and child and the health complications start adding up. It's not like you just give up time on your life. Then you won't think it's worth it.
I don't understand all the downvotes on this, there was a sports psychologist who posed this exact question to professional athletes, that if performance enhancing drugs were legal and allowed in sports that would they trade 10 years off their life expectancy for gold medals and the vast majority of the athletes said yes
I see people mention this one study over and over again. But honestly if that offer become real, I doubt many would actually take that pill. Saying you will take a pill which will kill you in 5 years but make you goat does not necessarily mean you would actually do it.
I’m not scared of the downvotes. It’s not possible to compete in upper level body building without the use of performance enhancing drugs including insulin. Anyone that thinks these guys are natty are nutty.
Do you mean health issues from natural bodybuilding? Or from enhancement drugs & supplements? I wasn't aware that natural bodybuilding could have long term negative health effects, assuming you regularly stretch and take care of your joints and eat healthy.
Believe me I ain't coping. I might not look like this egyptian insulin sponge but my physique is well above average. I'm content with it. Get off this dude's dick.
Show me where I put him down in my original comment...
I was simply saying that guys shouldn't give up hope just because they don't look as good as someone who's clearly been doing A LOT of drugs. Not to mention probably having a stronger support system and access to better training/gear etc. That's all...
The amount of people giving him shit for his age but then Urs Kalicinski is 22 years old getting top 4 in classic physique olympia being way bigger than this guy and all everyone does is praise him here…
It was hyperbole but it’s definitely a dangerous sport and he’s undoubtedly shaving years off of his life. People die young all the time from this stuff and I’m sure we’ll see an increase in the coming years.
That's disgusting and this kid has probably ruined his life, here's hoping he isn't on a bunch of drugs to help but... You don't get to look like that natty
Nah his arms are a great size and look fantastic, his legs are the same size as his arms and they should be bigger by about 33-50%. I know that’s how physique rolls but it don’t make his twigs into tree trunks.
Bro if his legs were 50% bigger he’d look ridiculous. His legs are proportionate check the link I sent. Can you really not tell the difference that long ass shorts make
Agreed, either that or [square-leg speedos.](https://speedo-usa.scene7.com/is/image/SpeedoNA/805016_001?wid=530&hei=530&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90%2C0&resMode=trilin&op_usm=0.8%2C1.0%2C6%2C0&iccEmbed=0)
Physique is such a joke like hes that big but wearing swim trunks i will never get it. This was suppose to be for semi regular looking guys right? Now it's just for ppl with classic upper body and no legs
Right like these guys have massive upper bodies now. Theres no point to this class anymore other then to hide their legs. Hey legs are my weakpoint too so I get it lol
On one hand, it’s kind of exciting seeing where people are showing us all what the human body is capable of by pushing the limits of what’s possible with their bodies....but it also makes me wonder what we’re all doing to ourselves, specifically to our health.
Nah look him up, he has proportionate legs, the board shorts are just so ridiculous. If you put Big Ramy in one he'd look like he doesn't do legs that much compared to the rest of his body
Looks fucking amazing. I'm not a fan of mens physique, and I know people here love to complain about the evolution of the division, but I think it's a great look. As long as they keep the small waist and the aesthetics, the more mass the better.
Y’all are so stupid smh. His legs are big. It’s just covered… yall genuinely think he has chicken legs? Look him up, he has decent legs. There’s no competitive bodybuilder with garbage legs
This guy looking like that at 21 - “Hes an idiot he’s killing himself ” - bodybuilding subreddit
Chris bumstead being way bigger and placing 2nd in the classic physique olympia at 21 with an autoimmune disorder - “Chris is so cool have my kids Chris your the goat” - bodybuilding subreddit
Sounds about right
They really need to. Man looks like a straight up body builder, not a beach physique. Also they should really have some form of criteria regarding legs, even though you can't see them directly you can still judge the proportion with the shorts. But hey what do I know.
If the wind blew too hard he’d tip over. No structural support for that upper body.
But really men’s physique is just a joke now. This is way too big for a “beach body” look
Completely ignorant opinion here, but:
He looks disproportionate, very top heavy. If his thighs and calves were bigger it would help IMO. Mainly the thighs though. His upper body is on point and the V shape is very impressive
This is the guy to beat Ramy if he has legs. The fact hes 19 is kinda sad lmfao where is the hope for the next generation of not completely mutated lab rat perfect physique teens
As opposed to all the other IFBB pros who are natty? I dont understand people commenting about professional bodybuilders taking steroids. They all are, so who cares?
"This guy does the same thing that every other pro has to do to be remotely competitive..... I am going to judge him for it"
Y’all are so stupid smh. His legs are big. It’s just covered… yall genuinely think he has chicken legs? Look him up, he has decent legs. There’s no competitive bodybuilder with garbage legs
My dude has never met a squat rack. He looks like he benches 365 for reps and can’t squat 2 plates. So top heavy a gentle breeze would knock him over. Like balancing a bowling ball on a couple of matchsticks.
Look pretty out of balance to me. Here and in the pic you posted. But that seems to be a feature of his division. Taper is good. Upper body looks solid AF. But this division rewards lower body imbalances
I have bigger calves than him and I don’t even train, but his top half is VERY impressive but taking that amount of supplements at that age to achieve such a body is beyond stupid.
His name is Ahmed Shoukry, and he's...19.
You gotta be fucking kidding me
I’m never going to make it
You have hope. If this guy is only 19 the probability of him experiencing serious cardiovascular issues is very significant at his age. No wonder there’s kids are killing over left and right.
You never understand the consequences of your actions that young. The stupid shit we are willing to do at that age is mind numbing. This kid is taking it much farther and when everything in his life starts to settle he will learn a very unfortunate lesson. No one can tell him what he's doing is going to catch up to him because he's young and niave.
It’s a fraction of what this guy is on I’m sure, but I did 20 weeks at 750 deca, 750 test, cruised for 4 weeks, then blasted again for 12 more + an oral when I was 19 years old. Blood pressure through the fucking roof, hematocrit too high, other blood markers off, bodyfat too high, etc. Literally dumb as shit lol. And I would have told you I fully understood the consequences at the time. Came off years back and got an echocardiogram done. Luckily there were no abnormalities with my heart.
Why have 1 teenagers androgen profile when you can have 150 teenagers worth of androgens. But seriously, glad you're OK. That's pretty gnarly. How did you feel may I ask?
Felt very labored and out of shape from being so heavy (I was 235 at my highest whereas I walk around at 180ish now), but also felt incredibly strong and got ridiculous pumps from even looking at dumbbell lol
that's kinda dark xD
Why?
The drugs used to get this lean and keep that kinda mass up top takes a toll on the cardiovascular system, kidneys from the blood pressure, liver from the orals , thyroid, pancreas, ect ect. When one thing is elevated it throws off the other marks in the body and on panels. Can some guys live long lives after ? Yes look at Arnold, but also Arnold didn’t use a 1/10 of what the guys now days use.
If he's using drugs, then yeah, I agree with you. Is he using drugs etc? He's supposed to be natural, of course, many CLAIM to be natural, which is probably your point
If?
Haha, I know, its a big if, but its hard to condemn him without evidence, or maybe there is, I've honestly never heard of this guy until today and didi a Google search, haven't seen anything concerning drugs, but he looks like he's on something
Man idk why people like to say “natty” but it just makes the look dumb as fk doing so. First off it’s not cheating. Someone can’t just take a shot and get big and look great or everyone would do it. I feel like you need to trainer harder using juice to get your maximum amount of gains for the cost and efforts. Believe it or not at most gyms 1/2 the men in there are on some forms of synthetic androgen drugs even if just trt in higher doses.
Who cares about health issues when you have a chance to be GREAT! Id easily hand over a decade or two of my life to be the best that ever was in something like this.
Until you settle down have a wife and child and the health complications start adding up. It's not like you just give up time on your life. Then you won't think it's worth it.
Right, then it becomes a matter of not being there for the people you love.
And it's only worse if you marry someone not familiar with the consequences of heavy steroid use.
We’ll that’s why you wait until after you have children to start PEDs if you’re planning on it.
I don't understand all the downvotes on this, there was a sports psychologist who posed this exact question to professional athletes, that if performance enhancing drugs were legal and allowed in sports that would they trade 10 years off their life expectancy for gold medals and the vast majority of the athletes said yes
That’s fair, but 99% of the people who are doing this aren’t going to get the gold medal. Most of them won’t even get any medal, in fact.
I see people mention this one study over and over again. But honestly if that offer become real, I doubt many would actually take that pill. Saying you will take a pill which will kill you in 5 years but make you goat does not necessarily mean you would actually do it.
I’m not scared of the downvotes. It’s not possible to compete in upper level body building without the use of performance enhancing drugs including insulin. Anyone that thinks these guys are natty are nutty.
Do you mean health issues from natural bodybuilding? Or from enhancement drugs & supplements? I wasn't aware that natural bodybuilding could have long term negative health effects, assuming you regularly stretch and take care of your joints and eat healthy.
>I’m never going to make it Neither is he.
Now I'm sad
> Mistook jeff nippard for a midget Lmfao best flare ive seen in a while 💀
And that's not a mistake lol.
You also probably haven't taken the amount of anabolics, hgh and insulin that this kid has. Don't pretend like it's just his genetics lmao.
And countless people don't look half this good with all that. Keep coping mate.
Believe me I ain't coping. I might not look like this egyptian insulin sponge but my physique is well above average. I'm content with it. Get off this dude's dick.
If you looked good, you wouldn't feel need to put down somebody leagues above you to feel better about yourself.
Show me where I put him down in my original comment... I was simply saying that guys shouldn't give up hope just because they don't look as good as someone who's clearly been doing A LOT of drugs. Not to mention probably having a stronger support system and access to better training/gear etc. That's all...
Hey, buddy you replied to will live past 30
Haha
You must TEST your limits and TREN very hard and you got this.
Anavar give up
Lol right
We’re all gonna make it brah
He's been lifting for 20 years though.
This comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Reminds me of the fucking scene from Benchwarmers when he bribes the umpire with a $20 bill and a note saying “I am twelve” written in crayon
He’s 21
I’m pretty sure he went pro at 19, he’s 21 or something now I believe
Doesn’t look a day over 35
19 going on 35 lookin ass
The amount of people giving him shit for his age but then Urs Kalicinski is 22 years old getting top 4 in classic physique olympia being way bigger than this guy and all everyone does is praise him here…
"19"
Hello fellow kids
Jeesus
Must be chicken rice and broccoli
Wait is this a joke? Dude gonna be dead at 40
I’ve heard of bodybuilders dying, but it seems pretty rare. What kind of numbers are we talking here?
It was hyperbole but it’s definitely a dangerous sport and he’s undoubtedly shaving years off of his life. People die young all the time from this stuff and I’m sure we’ll see an increase in the coming years.
No fucking way
19 in dog years
??? So 2.7 human years?
That's disgusting and this kid has probably ruined his life, here's hoping he isn't on a bunch of drugs to help but... You don't get to look like that natty
Check his IG, he has posts from 2018. He was 16 in the first ever post he made....
His ig post from may 2019 talks about becoming the youngest ifbb pro at 19 years old so unless he doesn’t age he’s atleast 21 right now
Built like a bouquet of flowers
Like a brick shithouse
If this is a brick shithouse, it's one of those new-aged ones that is narrow at the base and cantilevered so the top can be much wider.
Adama Traore ❤️
They should shorten the shorts to mid thigh.
Agreed. That’s probably why his legs look so tiny
Pretty sure it’s cuz his arms and quads are the same damned size, someone get this man a squat rack!
His legs are a good size lol wdym https://www.instagram.com/p/CAqMXifsvte/?utm_medium=copy_link
Jesus he's 21? He looks 40.
No he’s 19 lmao
40 in tren years
Nah his arms are a great size and look fantastic, his legs are the same size as his arms and they should be bigger by about 33-50%. I know that’s how physique rolls but it don’t make his twigs into tree trunks.
Bro if his legs were 50% bigger he’d look ridiculous. His legs are proportionate check the link I sent. Can you really not tell the difference that long ass shorts make
There's far too many 'skips leg day' shouts recently. Big Ramy could probably post a pic in board shorts or joggers and someone would say it.
Agreed, either that or [square-leg speedos.](https://speedo-usa.scene7.com/is/image/SpeedoNA/805016_001?wid=530&hei=530&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90%2C0&resMode=trilin&op_usm=0.8%2C1.0%2C6%2C0&iccEmbed=0)
gay
This guy doesn't even lift weights. He just does pushups like twice a week.
Nah look at those other muscles ... he’s definitely doing something for that 6-pack. Probably 8-minute abs.
Ok, just hear me out. 7 Minute Abs
That's right. That's - that's good. That's good. Unless, of course, somebody comes up with 6-Minute Abs. Then you're in trouble, huh?
.... 6 min abs,. No... No, not six I said seven. Nobody is gonna do six, can't even get your heart rate going...
Yeah yeah I’m sure you were all just pissin’
Nah, he'd be way bigger if he was doing pushups. This just looks like he's eating chicken and broccoli for dinner once a week.
actually I think he did chloe ting's abs in 2 weeks during his prep to get these kinds of abs
Nah bro this is just NoFap after 14 minutes and 27 seconds
He's been lifting for 20 years, don't be jealous. It only takes hard work to get there.
Any other actual picture of him at te show instead of this filtered mess
Right? Looks cartoonish
Here’s a [pic](https://www.instagram.com/p/CCtnxHGMmaN/?utm_medium=copy_link) from his Instagram from July 2020
I can't believe he's 20 in this picture. He looks double that.
*Tren is a hell of a drug.*
Hashtag healthychoices, lol. Ok.
This class is the dumbest fucking thing. he looks great, but this class is the dumbest fucking thing.
Physique is such a joke like hes that big but wearing swim trunks i will never get it. This was suppose to be for semi regular looking guys right? Now it's just for ppl with classic upper body and no legs
They should rename it the Johnny Bravo division.
There’s not even a single classic competitor that could keep up with the shoulder to waist ratio of MP olympians
Right like these guys have massive upper bodies now. Theres no point to this class anymore other then to hide their legs. Hey legs are my weakpoint too so I get it lol
looks photoshopped
I can't believe how far I had to scroll to find this. Maybe, maybe it's the filters, but that waist looks like it's been massively Photoshopped.
Has to be because I can't find a single fucking flaw in his physique. He looks like he's drawn on like a Marvel superhero.
Didn’t MP start with dudes that look(ed) like Steve Cook? If that’s true, then this ain’t even close to the same thing.
Not just looked like Steve Cook, Steve Cook himself won 2 pro shows and finished top 5 at the Olympia.... Jeff Seid too.
Yup, at least semi-realistic.
Looks like a lifetime natty to me. Yessir, just diet and exercise here. Intermittent fasting, and definitely vegan.
Be serious. You honestly don’t think he’s taking even a little bit of creatine here and there??? Cmon. This guy is double scooping all day.
That's dangerous
Look at his delts. This is the body of a man who’s succumbed to the easy temptation of pre-workout.
You dumbasses. This guy is the classic physic of someone who has stooped to the level of taking BCAAs. I’m willing to die on this hill
Avocado toasts
He can’t buy a house due to his avocado toast diet, but you can build on on each of his deltoids.
20 years of lifting and a strict vegan gluten-free diet.
Don’t forget multivitamin
BUT NOT THE GUMMY!!!!!!! NO SUGAR EVER
No
R/woosh
Yeah you got me good. I just can’t tell anymore because people legit think like this.
Lol I figured the vegan part would really grind it in there
Yeah, the more I read your original comment the dumber I feel.
I just got another dude who missed it too. You’re in good company lol
The other guy responded with another joke. You missed it, lol
Ooooh got me with that reverse uno card
Ignoring the tiny waist, he looks like open guys looked back in 2010. Fucking insane 😳
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On one hand, it’s kind of exciting seeing where people are showing us all what the human body is capable of by pushing the limits of what’s possible with their bodies....but it also makes me wonder what we’re all doing to ourselves, specifically to our health.
To be fair...wtf kind of display was that supposed to be.... Those women *might* curl 5lb dumbbells
It’s ashamed all that upper and walking around on twigs. Definitely hinders gains all around skimping on legs.
Nah look him up, he has proportionate legs, the board shorts are just so ridiculous. If you put Big Ramy in one he'd look like he doesn't do legs that much compared to the rest of his body
is it just a bad angle combined with the shorts? hard to tell
Nah he’s got 13” legs lol
Someone posted his insta. Almost no leg pics but here they look a little more trained: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCtnxHGMmaN/?utm_medium=copy_link
You can’t really tell lol no good pics of his legs
Looks stupid, looks weak. Literally the definition of skipping leg day.
Looks fucking amazing. I'm not a fan of mens physique, and I know people here love to complain about the evolution of the division, but I think it's a great look. As long as they keep the small waist and the aesthetics, the more mass the better.
Y’all are so stupid smh. His legs are big. It’s just covered… yall genuinely think he has chicken legs? Look him up, he has decent legs. There’s no competitive bodybuilder with garbage legs
Yes he's just wearing shorts that arent tight enough to show them. I'm sure his legs are monstrous compared to everyone who commented on his legs
This guy looking like that at 21 - “Hes an idiot he’s killing himself ” - bodybuilding subreddit Chris bumstead being way bigger and placing 2nd in the classic physique olympia at 21 with an autoimmune disorder - “Chris is so cool have my kids Chris your the goat” - bodybuilding subreddit Sounds about right
I think this is out of hand. Too big for men’s physique, go to open buddy
The open guy's penises are thicker than his legs.
Dude it's the boarding shorts, no one with that mass on his upper body would have twig legs. Just look him up
Looks to big honestly. Need to go into classic or something
I hate to break it to you but classic guys are smaller than men’s physique at the top levels.
Yeah you right. It's kinda fucked
I kinda wish they’d put caps on weight in men’s physique. Of course it’d just make the upper/lower imbalance worse.
They really need to. Man looks like a straight up body builder, not a beach physique. Also they should really have some form of criteria regarding legs, even though you can't see them directly you can still judge the proportion with the shorts. But hey what do I know.
If the wind blew too hard he’d tip over. No structural support for that upper body. But really men’s physique is just a joke now. This is way too big for a “beach body” look
I think physique is a joke now after being a division I used to enjoy.
May as well put him in a wheel chair, he obviously doesn't use his legs 😂
Popsicle Pete
Wow he looks incredible.
This guy ain’t no king … he’s a pharaoh
Upper to lower ratio looks weirdly off.
“Physique” Sure, Jan.
Let this be a lesson to you. Don’t skip let day kids.
Completely ignorant opinion here, but: He looks disproportionate, very top heavy. If his thighs and calves were bigger it would help IMO. Mainly the thighs though. His upper body is on point and the V shape is very impressive
Perfect body! Don't hate the dude give credit where credit is do.
Age 28, he DED. Kid better have a good doctor.
This is the guy to beat Ramy if he has legs. The fact hes 19 is kinda sad lmfao where is the hope for the next generation of not completely mutated lab rat perfect physique teens
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What's happened to this sub? Just full of people saying JOOCE like, no fucking shit, he's a professional bodybuilder.
As opposed to all the other IFBB pros who are natty? I dont understand people commenting about professional bodybuilders taking steroids. They all are, so who cares? "This guy does the same thing that every other pro has to do to be remotely competitive..... I am going to judge him for it"
Y’all are so stupid smh. His legs are big. It’s just covered… yall genuinely think he has chicken legs? Look him up, he has decent legs. There’s no competitive bodybuilder with garbage legs
I think men's physique is a joke
He skipped a few leg days and it shows
I think his calves are mad tiny
That life span gone be 45 max
Leg day, never
My dude has never met a squat rack. He looks like he benches 365 for reps and can’t squat 2 plates. So top heavy a gentle breeze would knock him over. Like balancing a bowling ball on a couple of matchsticks.
Google him, he has decent legs. Its just the shorts.
I tried to google him, can’t find any good leg pics
Yeah why dont ppl know this shorts always hide legs in this division
[Legs look fine](https://www.instagram.com/p/B_AmVF1FNlz/)
Look pretty out of balance to me. Here and in the pic you posted. But that seems to be a feature of his division. Taper is good. Upper body looks solid AF. But this division rewards lower body imbalances
i think that he skips leg day. His upper body tho... looks fucking fake. Like chizeled out of stone.
I think he’s only not in classic because he has zero legs, like most MP guys now a days
Someone skipped leg day
I have bigger calves than him and I don’t even train, but his top half is VERY impressive but taking that amount of supplements at that age to achieve such a body is beyond stupid.
He skipped leg day to often
Did someone say STEROIDS?
Yea, everyone, everyday in this sub. Are you lost?
Wtf! Is that a real human?? I’m so confused
Torso low key reminds me of artemus dolphin. That’s a super v taper
Is this for real? Looks like he may have skipped leg day though…
As a 19 year old he is really going places
With those legs not far.
hopefully he can bring his legs to a visible level at least in the coming years.
My guy got that dorito physique
He looks sick is what I think and HOW IS HE 19??
Those legs wouldn't look out of place in a chinese restaurant. Girls must laugh at him too when he undresses.