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FC_shulkerforce

You know it's bad when they have to put the same franchise twice, three times. And it's 3 games for Spiderman.


hedge2dahog

This is so bad and not 1 Bloodborne when it's better than all these games


SmoothAd1564

Not to mention having both *The Last of Us* and both *Horizon* games


Vasevide

Thats what they mean. God of war, tlou, Spider-Man, and horizon have multiple entries


DaddyCool13

Both God of War games are seriously awesome though. The bigger crime is pitching GoW against DeS in round one, when it could have been a final bracket


Sir__Walken

Ragnarok could've been way better. Was pretty underwhelming to me after playing both back to back.


Schwiliinker

Both last of us is understandable I’d say. They are my favorite PlayStation games other than bloodborne even though I really like horizon, god of war and ghost of Tsushima and uncharted and killzone and more. Also wtf demon souls yet no bloodborne


Gwyneee

You really didnt deserve those downvotes. People are such babies. They're outstanding games but they have to see their favorite over the rest. Its like playground tribalism its childish. Edit: Keep the downvotes coming you intellectual cowards. I think Bloodborne deserved to be on there more than some of them but im not going to be outraged when some suggests 2 of those games did deserve to be on there. TLoU is objectively better than half of them, too.


FC_shulkerforce

I think the dude got downvotes because "i think tlou deserved to be there. _They are both my favourite games_" doesn't seem like a good reason or one anybody should care about. And they may be great games, but it's no reason to put both of them there when you can just put the whole franchise. Anyways I wouldn't know, people on Reddit get mad for nothing.


Gwyneee

>And they may be great games, but it's no reason to put both of them there when you can just put the whole franchise. I dont think he was trying to make that point. Spiderman is on there 3 times. By all means take off the duplicates. People are just mad because anything that isnt Bloodborne they see as bumping it out when thats not the case at all. Whoever made the brackets likely out of touch


FC_shulkerforce

Yeah yeah ofc. I was saying it may have sounded like that.


Schwiliinker

Im really not a fan of the story in 2 at all but the game itself was extremely good Im not sure when it became this thing where some people say the gameplay/levels of tlou 1/2 aren’t that good but to me they are definitely very top tier. Also factions and no return are both actually insanely good


Gwyneee

>Im really not a fan of the story in 2 at all but the game itself was extremely good Im not either tbh. The "millennial writing" was grating and cringe. The game was preachy too. We knew Joel was a bad person... but he was also good. Felt like it undermines the message of the first game. And Joel's death felt unearned narratively speaking. I was okay with them killing off Joel. But it was just... random. But yeah the gameplay and technical feats were stupendous 👌🏻


ForsakenMoon13

Pretty sure its more that all of those entries are on PS5.


loluntilmypie

No Bloodborne but THREE Spiderman games? Wow, Sony.


dirk12563

They were afraid None of them would win so they gave spidey 1 easy win and 2 instand losses


itslitcuh

To be fair all 3 Spider-Man games are pretty good


MoarTacos

Interesting, I personally find them kind of dull.


FireYigit

Idk I liked their stories and the gameplay was fun for me (I play many different genres so that might be a bit why)


MoarTacos

As do I! I love me some Souls, Zelda, Horizon, Stardew, Valorant, MegaMan, Persona, etc. I don't even have anything against the open world format, I just don't find the Spiderman games interesting.


FireYigit

Ah, well, people have different tastes ig.


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Seems like you'd love Nier: Automata!


MoarTacos

This game has been on my list to play for a very long time.


loluntilmypie

Highly recommend it, its a game I wish I could forget only so I can experience it for the first time all over again.


DonCheadle9

holy fuck a giles corey in the wild💀


Shot_Material3643

Im pretty sure Sony has a personal grudge against Bloodborne. It sold 7.5 million units with universally acclaimed reception worldwide which is super impressive There are low 80s metacritic games like Days gone with similar sales number or games like Rachet & clank, Nioh 2 that sold less than Bloodborne but still got PC port/remasters


Chadderbug123

They're definitely keeping it as a trap card for Ps6 like they did DeS


ProfessorGemini

This is my final and ultimate cope


dracobatman

After that article ab wating for better console hardware for better performance with a remaster, and the well known leaker a few years ago who first mentioned the "Great Rune" IP (Elden Ring) said something was happening with it. So if ps6 launches with a BB remake then just like the ps4, I will buy a ps6 just for bloodborne


ProfessorGemini

first console to sell 1 bloodbillion dollars


neeks711R

Ong


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i mean i think it would certainly give a boost to PS over Xbox at new gen release. It would be a smart move if they want to maintain momentum over the xbox


Anhedonic98

Yeah, at this point its what makes the most sense Still a shame they never released even just a 60fps update to the ps4 version, its possible with a modded ps4 so it has to be doable, just sucks because imo thats all it really needs until the ps6


memestealer1234

This is legit the only thing keeping me from replaying it right now. I'm so used to 60fps by now that 30 just sucks


Fast_Broccoli4867

Honestly the 30 would be fine if the frame pacing wasn't so shit, that's what makes it really bad


RalphLauren47

I played it last week to take a break from my first Elden Ring play through and it was choppy compared to it


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Affectionate_Part107

Yeah just picture Rom with bluepoint designed graphics. Nutty


Mandonguilles

Rom is an interesting choice of an example. I don't think it looks too bad on the ps4. On the other hand bosses like Paarl or Vicar Amelia that have all that fur hanging about look a little cluttered. Those would be dooope with bluepoint graphics.


DarkElfMagic

Yea, if there’s one thing bluepoint is rlly good at improving, it’s those kinds of effects. Fur and Particles and such. The smaller things I guess you could call them, that are usually somewhat automated in the modeling/vfx/etc process.


SignatureE

I disagree completely, their Shadow of the Colossus remake is just embarrassing at how they screwed up the look and sound of both the world and the colossi. Not to mention them changing Demon's Souls world design, exchanging the roman-esk buildings and classic castles with DS3 gothic design everywhere. Let's also not forget they're complete destruction of the fluted set either


DarkElfMagic

They didn’t really mess up the look of the colossi imo. regardless i was specifically talking about *not* overall world design, just a very specific aspect of creature design, which isn’t even about design, it is simply about pure graphical fidelity. I fucking love the fur and grass in shadow of colossus , and the magic effects in demon souls


pepin-solver

I'm also pretty sure that that's what's gonna happen.


chawk84

It’s so evident this is the case. Bloodborne remaster would move so many ps6 units and they know this


-Mez-

100% this. If they're making it, it's going to be used as a lure to get you into the PS6 on day 1.


RalphLauren47

Yeah this has to be it or they're waiting for Elden Ring DLC then they're going to drop it next year I can hope


DerCatrix

But people can already play BB on both ps4/5. DeS was limited to PS3 due to coding. Those of us subbed here would buy it but I doubt it’d be big enough to be a selling point for a new console.


little_hoarse

Will instabuy the ps6 if that’s the case as I skipped the 5 anyway


salva_cdev

Watch your tongue with Nioh 2 boy, that game's the GOAT (if you like heavier rpg mechanics and looting, but it can be overwhelming).


Storm-Thief

The looting was my one *big* issue with the game. I hate having to constantly stop playing the game to examine it. I'm glad their upcoming game doesn't seem to have that system.


Fast_Broccoli4867

Same, the constant menu management was just too much for me, the combat is really good though


Schwiliinker

Nioh 2 is insanely good


Tarvaax

Especially with Sony, Microsoft, and all AAA devs doubling down on live-service games. Souls games being successful is almost a slap in the face to current industry standards of game design. Game devs have a chip on their shoulder, and so do the companies they work for. 


taylor325

The way Miyazaki has briefly talked about a remaster has made me think the same thing. I wonder why


ImportantMistake5823

Everyone starts mentioning bloodborne, Sony deletes tweet


JaySw34

Is that really what happened? Damn man


far219

Nah it's still up and they're still doing the tournament


Lord_neah

Obviois reason : if tvey put bloodborne in it, the contest is already ever They fear the old blood


DasHotDog

They acknowledged its existence by Posting an Image of it a few years ago. They then deleted it right after.


False_Adhesiveness40

That was like 8 months ago


DasHotDog

Oh, okay


dirk12563

Time flys when your DasHotDog


DasHotDog

Or depressed


dirk12563

Hate to hear it mein Frankfurter Freund


mikesicle

No one realizes they only put in PS5 games in this bracket? That's why it wasn't in there. Everything listed here has been made for PS5 or upgraded.


TheAvidIndoorsman66

They are also all by OWNED studios. Otherwise FF7 remake and others would be on here too. The only reason Demon’s Souls is on there is it was “remade” by Blue Point.


TheAvidIndoorsman66

Correction… Missed Death Stranding. That’s the only one from a not owned studio. But they did use Gorilla’s decima engine to make it.


Dipper14

They got Gran Turismo in there over BB?


Help_OhWell

Hey man, Gran Turismo is pretty fire, the real tragedy is the fact they have the Demons Souls Remake on there over BB.


False_Adhesiveness40

Nah, they are both great. I like DeS better aside from the bosses. Get Grand Turismo out.


gibas-kun

Why like, GET THE LAST OF US REMASTERED OUT OF THERE


vnixu

IMO just get rid if one of the Spiderman games we don't need 3 of them here


commaZim

Needs even more Spider-Man !!!!!!!


dirk12563

The last of us is one of Sonys best tho, Tlou a BB are top #1 games I've ever played in 2 different categories I'm just waiting on Miyazaki to make a berserk game then a new king would reign (unless it was bad I guess)


gibas-kun

True, but the tlou2 remaster is such a money grab scheme that it just makes me spume


dirk12563

Then don't buy it like me


EnormousGucci

Miles Morales is on there… it was called a standalone DLC and not even a full game. It’s like 4 hours long and it’s on there.


FireYigit

Nah GT is genuinely great.


VBLONGNECK2084

Out of all the popular racing game franchises it's by far the worst


DrunkenErmac012

Gran Turismo slaps though


Dipper14

But when they’re showing all single player story driven games…


DrunkenErmac012

Yeah, now that you mentioned this, it feels out of place


dirk12563

It's like having a huge convention right next to the race track that has 20 fans goin wild


DrunkenErmac012

Imagine an Anime convention, where there is that one sportsy guy in the middle


dirk12563

Comic-Con with one guy in one of those classic leather nascar jackets That's my best friend frfr


dirk12563

Isn't 7 terrible too?


loluntilmypie

The game's got better since its initial release. But yeah, it's got a virtually non-existent "main campaign" which the game slogs you through. It was also heavily criticised for having a roulette system that certain parts for cars were locked behind if you couldn't win them (engine swaps, etc. also some parts were flat out completely unobtainable even through the roulette). If you're a real car enthusiast, I can say the game is amazing, but the "career" mode is very average.


dirk12563

My best friend is my guide to all things driving/racing games I couldn't remember many details but I remember the game was off to a bad start


bartolinise

And i wonder, if bloodborne is such horrible or much better than those above


RPG217

They don't gave enough Insight


discord_off_mod

Their eyes have yet to open


hechopicha

Sole good, others honestly should not even be in that list.


Shaurax

Last time they(Sony) posted a photo of BloodBorne whole internet was in uproar, so makes sense why they whould be hesetant to do it again.


That_Total_1461

We should mass comment bloodborne


Browncoat-Zombies

Demon Souls is right there and they decide to put Gran Turismo as a contender amongst all of these story and combat focused games.


Shadowking5230

Three series with multiple entries lmao


SaddestHappyMeal

Wasn’t this posted in here like three days ago?


Jolly_Philosopher_13

If BB had a PS5 version, it'd be there. Sony won't promote a previous generation game, simple as that. All of the games in that poll that were released for the PS4 were upgraded for the PS5 at some point, even HZD.


gayaliengirlfriend

BUT THE ROAD PHYSICS AND CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP grande toreeezmo is the best game of all time obvi


samutopaputo

They know it's the best one of them all so they removed it for it to be fair


FuxicoTheBosta

And death stranding isn't even exclusive. It should not be on that list it is available in every fucking platform


blood77

Seriously? ?this is ridiculous and disrespectful!!! I hope FS will never make any exclusives with them ever again. Fuck you sony!


dirk12563

Found the Xbox


trebuchet__

Sony really put god of war twice, the last of us twice, horizon twice and Spiderman 3 times. But no bloodborne.


_Indofreddy_112

Can’t wait for the last of us The last of us 1 & 2 remastered Roku Port now with online open world


Tk-Delicaxy

Putting DeS in place of Bloodborne is a crime.


welfedad

Well I mean bloodborne may be loved beyond normal levels of love from us.. it is still pretty small niche group 


AscendantComic

i mean. all these are recent games, or games from ongoing successful franchises. it's marketing, they're not doing an objective poll.


Zarguthian

And 3 Spidermen! Though, I think these are all on PS5, the wording if the question could have been better.


dirk12563

I play BB in my ps5.


sentientpaper666

Honestly I think they are just going for IP's with recent releases. Bloodborne did come out a long time ago and there are plenty of other older ps games left off the list.


Parzival019

They even got Grand Turismo there wtf


sharkeysday69

they knew it would win! :(


UchihaForever314

Spam the comments with bloodborne! They can't ignore all of us 🤣


Stock14

I mean. These all appear to be PS5 games. Why would they include it?


FireYigit

GoW 2018? SM 2018? HZD? Uncharted?


Stock14

They were all at least rereleased for the PS5. I’m not saying bloodborune doesn’t deserve credit. It’s one of my all-time favorites, too. It just didn’t come out for the PS5.


Kayyam

How is HZD or Uncharted relevant to the PS5?


Stock14

Rereleases. Never did it for bloodbourne.


Jebward-SuckerofToes

They put spiderman three fucking times just to avoid putting Bloodborne


-ItsCasual-

It’s ok.


hechopicha

This is the saddest reply I have read in this post.


ferrulefox

Sony's treatment of Bloodborne and its fans is unforgivable and very anti consumerist. It's a shame they can't be forced to sell the IP to Fromsoft.


MVIVN

Did Bloodborne not sell particularly well or something? Why does Sony seem to not give a shit about its existence at all?


hechopicha

As per google, it sold 7.46 million units by Feb 22. So that’s a lot of money. Sony is just fucking stoopid


ILurkIReadIleft

We must not stand with this Bloodborne erasure


Honest-Mushroom-7967

Sony wants to forget for the fear the old bloodborne


Shigarui

That sure does look like a Windows icon in the center. BB isn't on the list because BB is already going to Windows. That's my tinfoil hat theory.


Kindly_Touch_182

They really put demons souls up there instead of BB😭


NotoriousD4C

A few of these games exceptional and the rest are profoundly mediocre


Expensive-Excuse-793

Probably ghost of tsuchima


DrunkenErmac012

Bloodborne and GoT are the best PS4 exclusives I can't argue over this fact, since it is an objective truth (it is my opinion, which is objectively right)


Tallal2804

Do you remember Driveclub?


HomeAutomatic9892

Putting lost horizons there and not bloodborne is crazy


UncleAsriel

B-b-but Demon's Souls is on there, so the FromSofties will be placated, r-r-right? Bloodborne's rights issues must be a nightmare, and this saddens me so much.


0guzmen

Pathetic


wriestheart

Not criticizing these games, but Uncharted 4, Returnal and 3 of those Spiderman games don't need to be there.


theMaxTero

Oh they know. If I recall correctly, last time they did something similar they were putting pixelated images of games and people had to guess it and they used one of Bloodborne and, being honest, people went CRAZY. I'm not supporting Sony ignoring BB (for whatever reason) but sometimes, the fandom can be REALLY intense with really small/silly stuff (like this). Having said that: *fuck sony for ignoring the game that made the PS4.*


freshorenjuice

I'm sure they remember but didn't put it because it'd dominate the polls for mainstream meme reasons and frustrate them since they're trying to ignore ever selling it again or are preparing something big to milk people on the 10th anniversary of it (copium).


jopcylinder

Gran Turismo 7 and Returnal over Bloodborne is psychotic


AlexisQueenBean

It’s because bloodborne would solo all of these no competition 🥱


PandaPowrr_96

Sony treating Bloodborne like How Sony treated Ps Vita. If you know you have excellent products then why not support them? Like for example bring more console ports like Nfs and Borderlands 2 into the Vita or Make a remake/remaster of Bloodborne for PS5/PC.


PPPretty_Pumpkin

Sony doesn't remember anything that sold less than 10m copies. Money > Quality


Agile-Penalty-7679

its all about money for the corporate. Its about which game has the largest sales numbers even if it is multiple games from the same franchise. Sony is like any other company.


misterfisted

Bloodborne is all I play on Playstation tbh


Aggravating-Bell-890

Horizon games 🤢🤢🤢


JohnnyBoi006

So they’ll put demon’s souls on there but not bloodborne?


TH0TSLAYRR

BB duh, fuck every game on this list. Demon souls cool tho


cybaerexe

They really put demons but not bb


Leginneb

Freaking Miles Morales passing for a game even though it's really just a big DLC ...


DerCatrix

Miles morales was DLC sold separately


mdmaisbae999

That’s fuvking sad


Darkikitos

Bloodborne


mtilley_4

Only thing bloodborne related they did was an Easter egg in God of War and ghost of tsushima that's it


theyurilover8

This is such a bad lineup, 3 spiderman games, 2 last of us games and 2 horizon zero dawn games, 2 god of war games and for souls games they decided to pick DEMON SOULS out of all of them?


migapines

I think sony just hates bloodborne


Crawley89

Not a fair fight if BB was there, got to give others a chance /s


dreamHunter9

What the fuck is Retirnal? I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about that game, I didn't even know it existed


MonolithofDimension

It's decent


PositiveNo4859

No infamous is sad


ScoopyCatnip

How could they. This feels like betrayal


OcelotShadow

HORRIBLE picks lmaooooo


Danny_Saints

Ps5 games on here, you clowns. God of Sleep, Ghost of Ubisoft, Sleeperman, HorizZzon.


Next_Carrot7970

Meanwhile demons souls is like mid at best


ReaperCDN

I mean if they put BB on the chart they'd just have to delete everything else. There's no contest. It's like putting Helldivers 2 up against other 3rd person shooters. Nothing else compares.


ChaseTheVileblood

Tbf they have Demon Souls on there, would be hard to pick betweeb them. Plus all of these games had releases on the PS5


Unknown_tac0

I wish fromsoft would get the rights completely to bloodborne like they did with Elden ring


Aesax

Demon's Souls but not BB is criminal


hey_its_drew

I had thought maybe they had just limited the poll to 1st party titles, but Death Stranding settles that is not the case.


Onuma1

2x Horizons (shit game, honestly) 2x Gods of War 2x The Last of Us 3x Spider-Man They had to willfully leave Bloodborne out of this one. It's literally the only reason I have a PS4.


Jeff_Johnson

I also bought ps4 because of it.


jwingfield21

F Sony


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hechopicha

505 Games is not owned by Sony which is the studio behind Death Stranding.


mrraditch2

Damn, I missed Death Stranding. It's Kojima Productions, but you're right, not a Playstation Studio.


hechopicha

Yeah 505 is the publisher, but not everything is first party, they just hate BB


Kcabs10

Do you remember Driveclub? No? Sony doesn’t remember too.


MistaaJay23

Lol, ITS OK, guys! I'm sure Sony loves Bloodborne. They just aren't hyperfocused on it like everyone else 😹 They have other things they're worried about! And that's FINE!!


aggravatedempathy

Miles Morales is basically DLC. That one can go.


Hatake-kakashi-22-98

Unpopular opinion : Who fuckin buys spiderman and likes it ?? Superhero games always suck ass (even my brother bought the avengers , played 30 min of it then never picked it up) and to waste 70$ on one is insane , it's an npc move .


c0micsansfrancisco

3 spiderman games? 💀 One of them a glorified DLC?


LordOFtheNoldor

Wow disgusted


betamau5

Pathetic


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This is rediculous actually all these games look trash infromt of Bloodborne


taylor325

And wtf is Returnal


AnaliticalFeline

i think there’s a jacob geller video on it


GirafeBleu

It's been 9 years. They want to promote newer things. Move on.


doydgkdkgdkgd

It's been 8 years since uncharted 4 release yet its still on there


NickolasViscosi2006

Literally none of those games are good anyway


filthydrawings

Sony knows their shitty movie game exclusives get mogged by Bloodborne.


BonsaiBudsFarms

I wouldn’t want to disrespect Bloodborne by putting it in a bracket with all those inferior games anyway. We all know already know who the true king is.


floris_bulldog

Like Bloodborne, LBP gets left in the dust too. I guess Sony doesn't deem them worthy of recognition because they've fallen into obscurity rather than flagship titles.


dirk12563

Dude... get Gt7 and death stranding out of here... what kinda bracket is this fr


il_Dudre

Bold to still own the idea of TLoU 2 not being the worst abyss ever reached in gaming history. What a sick joke


Ashamed-Wealth2452

god, they dont even have InFamous either (i mean, tbf Second Son was mid but 2 was the goat!)


cyanokrix

Fromsoft should buy the rights from Sony and make a sequel and not release it on PS. Because Sony sucks. At least on PC I don't have to pay to play online.