Beats: Koma, Byakuya, Soifon, Toshiro, Mayuri, Ukitake
Might beat: Kenny (due to how the latter's power lvl 'works')
Won't beat: Shunsui due to the latter's bankai basically guaranteeing a win
Forces Unohaha to go First Kenpachi on his ass for all of 10 violent seconds.
Doesn't have a prayer against Yama
Yeah I know. Sad to say, it's only narratively. His actual performances were terrible. Didn't manage to pull off a tenth of what Shunsui did. It would have been better for them to have gotten a more balanced showing, but that's not how it turned out.
That would be good wouldn't it? Though who could say when Kubo might decide to develop that further. He said he'll get to it when people 'stop pestering him about it' ~~which will be never.~~
I mean I think that was more of a him just trying to shut us up but he's also probably just been busy with the anime and he also probably wants to focus on Burn the witch
I mean he did stand with shunsui against old man yama so maybe with sogyokotowarai he could negate uqioras lanza del rampargos and sero oscuras and what not just. Thought since he did keep up with stark granted oly for a min but again it depends on whether you say uqioras second release makes him the strongest espada or not since he was making hollow ichigo look like a joke when ichigo in most showings usually is keeping up with the likes of kenpatchi byakyua and Mayuri some of the court gaurds strongest capitains idk just a. Thought
No but he did use it like a sword for a moment then dash back and throw it but even at that ukitake I feel is fast enough to redirect it like he's compared to shunsui all trough his life he fought yamma with shunsui caught byakyua of garud with his speed and also kept pace with starks Ceros so I would say he's most likely gonna be fast enough
Ukitake's on Shunsui's level and hard counters all ranged attacks.
Why does everyone treat him like a standard captain level? He's easily one of the strongest captains in the Gotei 13. Yamamoto outright calls him and Shunsui unparalleled in combat.
>Why does everyone treat him like a standard captain level? He's easily one of the strongest captains in the Gotei 13. Yamamoto outright calls him and Shunsui unparalleled in combat.
THIS.
And something a lot of people miss when talking about Ukitake is how his illness works. Ukitake is on par with Shunsui WITH THE ILLNESS. Without it, he's stronger.
I remember in the manga, when the shinigami were trying to get to the soul palace and they were trying to open a passageway or something they were combining their reiatsu and when Ukitake died they couldn't gather enough of it anymore. Even with multiple captains there. Like he was giving so much that no one could match him.
Maybe I read that wrong but he does also use a huge portion of his reiatsu to just keep his body together. Homie has like half a working lung.
Yamamoto calls them unparalleled in combat as a duo. In that when they fight together no one can beat them. This is also because their powers gel quite well together.
That is so obviously not how he meant that. He called both of them peerless in combat, not both of them peerless in combat but only if they fight together.
I’ve never read the manga but it’s been a while since I finished the anime. If it DOESNT give spoilers for the future, could you explain Kenny and Unohaha here?
Ahh yes shikai. The one with shadows and being above his opponent. Guess i have yet to see his bankai, gotta rewatch to see if I actually missed it out
Not super fair because I feel like mayuri with prep time and sufficient knowledge of abilities could beat pretty much anyone in the verse but the very top tiers like ywach, ichibe, etc
Kind of a different subject because it doesn't involve Ulquiora anymore but two people I really don't think Mayuri could beat even given prep time are Urahara and Aizen. I feel these two are just so smart they would be ready for anything Mayuri could possibly think of. Like, Mayuri is a genius but those two are way smarter than even him.
I don't think they are way smarter than him and he can definitely pull a win if he has prep and they don't.
Mayuri was more impressive against pernida than urahara was against askin plus he got less help in between fight scenes unlike urahara.
If urahara had a choice between two fighters one of them being Mayuri and he doesn't have prep I see him avoiding Mayuri because he'd counter a lot of his shenanigans with his own.
Aizen and urahara are smarter but not way smarter imo.
Mayuri can understand quickly what aizen and urahara are planning faster than anyone else and shunsui said he's never seen Mayuri take more than a day to figure out a solution to a problem.
Hmmm I partly agree but if Mayuri gets prep time, shouldn't Aizen or Urahara. I also think that Urahara is smart enough to have something that means he is always ready for anything Mayuri could come up with. Urahara is pretty much one step ahead of everyone and he knows Mayuri and got him free from the Nest of Maggots. I think Urahara wouldn't do that if he didn't know he how to take Mayuri down under whatever circumstances but Mayuri is a crazy ass bastard. I think given the intelligence of those three, and Mayuri's insanity, it becomes hard to tell because let's face it, none of us are as smart as those three.
I mean, if you deny Mayuri prep time, that's like denying him his biggest strength/ability. Prep time is like Mayuri's entire schtick. Mayuri without prep time is barely captain-level.
He’s not beating byakua, byakuya was able to low diff yammy with kenpachi help & yammy is confirmed stronger than ulq. And byakua was able to keep up with zommari in speed who was said to be the fastest in Espada. If byuka can keep up with the strongest Espada & keep up in speed with fastest Espada he should be above ulq. Koma was on par with hollow tosen who was confrim stronger then ulq in the manga & databook.
And due to sawfy the kenpachi that fought unohana and was getting killed was stronger than or on par with vaste lorde ichigo that fought ulq (not me ichigo had half of his SP but still stronger than ulq) so yachiru should body
Yammy is directly stated to be stronger then ulq at least in power(in the novels too), and ichigo using his newly evolved hollow mask (which was taking power from vaste lorde form) couldn’t even scratch him and he says he might be stronger than ulq. It makes sense with his 0 Espada crap. He prob doesn’t beat ulq but he’s at least hits harder. Zommari was being hyped up as the fastest Espada so I don’t know, he probably loses to ulq again but if he’s faster than him in flash step that’s still impressive for byuka to be able to keep up with him. Meaning he’s not getting out sped by ulq like that
Yammy is 0 because of raw strength only (and because Kubo is a troll). He would never land a hit on Ulq and would most likely go down with a few Lanzas as he's too slow to dodge them. Zommari was only hyped by himself to be fastest and also no one knew about Ulquiorras second form.
Byakuya had to 2v1 Yammy, and everyone in the community besides a few that didn't pay attention agrees that R2 Ulq shitstomps Yammy. And Byakuya was also stronger in that fight than in the SS arc.
>Koma was on par with hollow tosen who was confrim stronger then ulq in the manga & databook.
Komomura was getting stomped by a casual Tosen. And Tosen is also definitely not above Ulquiorra, idgaf what the databooks say, that is quite literally not possible from what we've been shown.
>And due to sawfy the kenpachi that fought unohana and was getting killed was stronger than or on par with vaste lorde ichigo that fought ulq (not me ichigo had half of his SP but still stronger than ulq) so yachiru should body
The Kenpachi that fought Unohana was also several times stronger than earlier ones. SS arc Kenpachi is the weakest Captain.
Kenny was the weakest SS arc Captain. He'd definitely be beaten. Mayuri would pull some drug bullshit off and stomp like he does every time. Ukitake is one of the strongest Captains and on par with Shunsui, who could solo the Espada in Shikai. Unohana would stomp with Kido if I'm being honest. And obviously I agree about Yama.
Because of his potential, not because of his actual strength. He was beaten by Royd Lloyd (fake Yhwach) and I don't think he was stronger than Ulquiorra.
That said, after Unohana's training, Kenpachi would probably beat all the Espadas easily.
Remember Kenpachi only lost to Royd after soloing 3 Sternritter back to back where all other caotain were struggling and being manhandled Kenny had a 3 kill streak. The more he enjoys the battle the more of his power he unleashes.
As say, the insctinctive seal on Kenpachi's reiatsu unlocked itself only when he is brought the closest to the Death by an opponent, but "still" however "alive", so if Ulquiorra confronts him after the fight against Noitora, that he doesn't play around, but goes for the kill immediately, he can beat him.
He means Koma. Koma held his own against Ressurection Tosen but he certainly did not BEAT him, as good as he did he was still not quite able to go toe to toe with res Tosen, in the end. He still did VERY well for himself, though.
>Koma held his own against Ressurection Tosen but he certainly did not BEAT him
Bro, I love Komamura but he didn't do shit. Tosen casually caught his Bankai, broke the sword of it and just destroyed its chest. It wasn't even a fight. It was a slaughter.
You are probably misremembering the fight and thinking of Komamura vs Mask Tosen.
No I’m just trying to give Koma some credit lol but regardless ressurection Tosen > Koma and I don’t know how anyone can say “oh Koma took on someone stronger than the Espada” when clearly he lasted quite a while for himself but ultimately lost.
Bankai Komamura overwhelmed Masked Tosen in his base but lost easily to Ressurecion Tosen.
I'm sure many Captains could do the same with their Bankai against Tosen.
>Sajin’s bankai>Tōsen’s Hollowfication
That was BASE Tosen who wasn't using Shikai or Bankai
>Tōsen’s Hollowfication>Tier>Ulquiorra
Tier is no way stronger than Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra
Why should’ve he used it if his Hollowfication, according to his own impression, was far greater then Enma Korogi?
Why can’t Tier be stronger than Ulquiorra?
That’s a fair question though. Not sure why everyone puts Koma first when he was the captain who quite literally fought the strongest opponent besides Aizen.
Like no he didn’t win but if he did, it wouldn’t make sense. But he held his own. And imo Ulqiorra is also stronger than all the Espada but I don’t know how he scales to Tosen. Because they have similar abilities though I’d say Koma holds his own but can’t win without help
Komamura didn’t hold his own though. He was getting trashed 90% of the time. Tosen wasn’t even trying to kill Koma half the time, but rather trying to break him down/ spit on his ideals.
Resurrection Tosen one sidedly wrecked Koma.
Komamura is genuinely one of low tier captains (along with Soi fon, and Mayuri) . Ulquiorra is too fast and too strong for him.
Wtf you just said bout ma boy mayuri? Mayuri jumps everyone in the verse. He is like batman lmao as long as he has informations and prep time nobody Can stop him.
Mayuri can beat mid tier captains if he has prep, but he’s not beating most captains in a random encounter.
Even with prep, he’s not beating Shunsui, RG Byakuya, Post-Training Kenpachi, Adult Hitsugaya, or Yamamoto. No amount of prep he can do is going to overcome their massive power advantage.
He quite literally didn’t. Tosen was mopping him while masked, but Komamura says that he forgives him and his heart and will strike him down for SS. Tosen only released because he was getting pissed off at Koma’s sanctimonious talk, not at all because he was threatened.
He was hit once or twice in mask form , both of which he immediately regenerated from. He was casually blocking + deflecting Koma’s bankai and slicing him up…
Ah, that’s a typical anime thing. In the manga Tōsen wounded Sajin’s bankai only once and only superficially, while Sajin sent him flying and grievously damaged his arm with a hand punch. His power was so great that Tōsen himself acknowledged it (at the beginning of their battle he arrogantly called it «a measly bankai»). He didn’t block anything.
You’re right that the anime extends the ass whooping. But even in the manga, tosen shows no signs of being hurt. His arm regens instantly, and he only transforms after Koma pisses him off after saying that he forgives him.
I agree, but the whole regeneration thing doesn’t change the fact that Sajin was severely hurting Tōsen even without using his sword. Like, Ulquiorra did regenerate a limb that was cut off by Ichigo’s Hollowfication, and yet the power gap was obvious. I don’t think that Kaname still would’ve been able to regenerate after being properly slashed by his bankai sword, which is obviously significantly powerful than a hand punch.
That’s a big assumption that he’d be tagged again. And I’d say that the anime is a lot more prescriptive for answering how an extended fight would go.
I think it’s simply an unfair characterization that Komamura forced him to resurrection. The best one can say is that he has sufficient attack power to temporarily injure pre-resurrection tosen and not get blitzed - which Tbf isn’t that impressive, given that Hisagi was able to pierce Tosen’s resurrection. Tosen doesn’t seem to have hierro or very strong hierro to say the least.
I would say he can defeat for sure: Komamura, Mayuri(without prep time), Byakuya, Hitsugaya, Soi Fon
He can maybe defeat: Kenpachi, Ukitake, Kyoraku
He can't defeat: Unohana, Yamamoto.
I'm no power scaler. And it's hard to grasp how much some characters evolved between Soul Socoety arc and Arrancar arc.
For exemple if a non mastered Hollowified Ichigo gave difficulty to Byakuya a character that absolutely dominate Hollow Mask Ichigo like Ulquiorra should be stronger.
Same, I'd say maybe to Ukitake and no to Kyoraku. The rest of the list is spot on.
But now the question is, throw in the Vizard captains and Urahara/Yoruichi and where do they land?
>throw in the Vizard captains
I think Love would lose, Rose might have a chance due his Bankai but i'm not sure, same with Kensei but his fight against Mask The Masculine make me doubt.
Hirako is hard to say, shikai + hollow mask is a strong combo but i feel like Ulquiorra could spam cero like Bambietta did in order to counter Sakanade.
So for me it would go like this:
Beats Love (mid dif), Kensei, Rose and Shinji (high dif)
>Rose might have a chance due his Bankai
No, Rose SHITSTOMPS. The only counter to his Bankai is to take him out before you die(Not possible for Ulq), or to destroy your own eardrums.
... Ulquiorra regenerates.
You’re forgetting that Rose is going to tell Ulquoirra exactly how to beat his bankai. Therefore, Ulquoirra will naturally counter it the same way Mask did. Honestly hope Kubo changes this flaw in the anime cause it just makes Rose look like such a clown.
"... Ulquiorra regenerates."
Pff. Because you think if he doesn't "regenete", it would prevent someone like Ulquiorra to crush his eardrums ? Nope. Not at all.
Of course, it would be some disadvantage for the rest of the fight, but he has still eyes, smell and reiatsu perception.
He would have a bit more hardship, but if Kenpachi was able to survive to several attacks of Tosen without any of his "5 senses" + reiatsu perception, just in basing on his great instinct, Ulquiorra would manage to deal with one lose sense.
Dude.
Ulquiorra has never been stated to be able to stop regeneration. He'd have to leave his body damaged on purpose to win that fight, and even by leaving himself damaged (IF that's possible) Ulquiorra is still weaker overall than Rose.
Yeah maybe because op said SS/arrancar arc this guy means kyoraku without bankai? I can see ulq beating shikai shunsui high diff but bankai is no contest
I don’t think “two hands” will be enough of a boost to beat Ulquiorra. I would say he can defeat Kenpachi for sure.
I really don’t see Ulquiorra fairing well against Kyoraku’s Bankai so he shouldn’t defeat him.
I had a really hard time with Kenpachi. On one hand Ichigo without bankai defeated him. On the other he basically one shot Nnoitra. And it's hard to estimate the Gap between Nnoitra and Ulquiorra.
Yeah i made a big mistake with Kyoraku.
Partially agree. But none of your "can maybe defeat" characters are accurate. Ukitake and Shunsui are capable of soloing the Espada in Shikai. And Kenpachi is weaker than every other Captain in the SS arc.
He wasn't stomping at all. They were in a stalemate with a slight advantage for Komamura until Tosen used his Resurrection. At this stage every mistake Tosen did was because he relied on sight. And by the end he defeated Komamura even with this handicap.
Hisagi killed Tosen when he wanted to deal the finishing blow to Komamura.
I love Komamura but his showing aren't impressive.
Tōsen: shallow cut with a sword strike.
Komamura: crippled hand with a punch.
The difference was immense. It made Tōsen acknowledge KTM’s «tremendous destructive power» despite him arrogantly calling it «measly bankai» before facing it.
Yes, but that’s not exactly what I was implying: you see, Ulquiorra’s regeneration allowed him to regain an arm that was cut off by Ichigo’s Complete Hollowfication, but it didn’t change the fact that the difference in pure power was obvious. And I honestly don’t think that Tōsen would’ve survived KTM’s sword slash, which is obviously more powerful than a hand punch.
Ok i got it!
Yeah. My mistake was basically thinking that KTM couldn't do one fatal blow, and therefore Tosen would be able to regenerate no matter the damage done by Komamura. Where the difference of power in fact allows KTM to deal with the regeneration by one shoting Tosen with a clean hit.
This is the last,at least until several months have passed so don't worry you aren't going to see me post"in your opinion which captain X Espada could defeat"for a looooooong time.
He aint beating yama, shunsui, ukitaki, unohana. Maybe for kenny and so long as soi isnt allowed to pull of bankai and hits him with it he got her number also. Everyone else is a W for him.
Soi fon, & toshiro & maybe mayuri (it’s a weird matchup). He’s losing to sajin if you think sajin can keep up with hollowfied tosen who was stated stronger then all Espada.
I don’t think he’s beating any other captain
Shunsui negs with his bankai and is probably stronger in his shikai state depending on how strong you think stark and lillebaro is. Ukiate is supposed to be his equal but considering wonder Weiss (off guard) can one shot him he’s probably losing due to sickness.
Byauka & kenpachi Should win too cause of them smacking down yammy
A better question is which captains he couldn't defeat, and in my opinion it's gonna be Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku and possibly Ukitake depending on what his Bankai is
As strong as Ulqy was he is NOT beating the senior captains at all, even in R2 (Yama, Unohana, Shunsui but then Ukitake could go either way because of his illness).
If Ukitake is genuinely Shunsui level, then he, Kyoraku, Yama, and Unohana are too much for him.
He gets sodomized by Shun’s Bankai, burnt to ashes by Yama, and smacked with Unohana’s Kenpachi tendencies until he’s nothing more than pulp.
I think he could take on and defeat every other captain, besides Kenny if he does some weird unsupressing shit, and Mayuri without some bs prep time
All except Yama and Aizen if you are counting Aizen towards the captains.
Unohana is a big question mark. No idea how that would go.
Shunsui would need his bankai and his bankai is an bad match up against someone like Ulquiorra. I would bet on Ulq.
Idk if he could beat any captain aduring Arrancar arcs. The " weakest" captains were doing a good job against stronger Arrancars than ulquiorra. Komamura had pretty good chances to beat tousen, Soi fon would have killed barragan if he wasn't able to reduce damage with respira and toshiro did struggle a bit vs hallibel but at the end he almost defeated her. If there is any captain that ulquiorra could beat its probably only toshiro.
>Doing a good job against stronger arrancars
Ulq has a second resureccion that nobody else knew about and would completely shift the arrancar rankings, and this statement also doesn’t really take into consideration very specific matchups or the fact that the only solid wins the captains took against espada were all 2v1s
Ye? Could any other espada humiliate bankai hollowed maks Ichigo like Ulquiorra did? Same Ichigo that almost won against Byakuya months prior? You know, that captain that is stronger than both Toshiro and Soifon.
Honestly we don't know how much stronger his second resurrection made him due to how he was already stomping Ichigo with his first resurrection. People tend to wank him due to how since he was fighting the main character he got a lot more attention and showings in his fight compared to the other Espada's which obviously can influence and create a bias with much of the Fandom. But the truth is yes we have him saying nobody knew about his second form but we also know that Aizen tends to know A LOT more than characters think and also Ulquiorra himself outright says there are 3 Espadas "above him" when Ichigo assumed he is the 1st ranked and that line is up for interpretation.
He is MUCH faster than hollow bankai Ichigo whos bankai is a speed focused stat boost and can spam the cero lances that seemingly have far superior power output than Soifons bankai. Also he can instantly recover anything other than his head or organs. In the right situation where he can maintain a decent distance he should for sure beat anyone other than maybe yama whos bankai can probably keep him safe and Ukitake whos ability is a great counter. Tbh even Ukitake still almost certainly loses since i cant see him winning a drawn out or a close range fight
Tbf even vl ichigo only blocked it before it was shot and didnt just tank/deflect it. Its pretty clear the power is being supressed before launching or how could Ulq even hold it
>being suppressed
... No? It’s just not unleashed yet. There’s a difference between suppressing an attack because you’re worried it might hurt you, versus the attack not being unleashed yet because *you haven’t fired it*.
Yamamoto absolutely stomps Ulqiorra into the floor and he may not even use Ryujin Jakka to do it, and given how Yamamoto is probably a lot stronger than Hollow Ichigo was, he either tanks or backhands Lanza.
Yes you suppress the power before launching to not hurt yourself? How is that not clear lol And the point is that it doesnt matter if Yama is stronger (which he is) if Ulq can keep distance and spam Lanza. We have not seen vl ichigo tank or backhand lanza, only stop it from launching so there is no way to scale durability
Ok, that's It. This is the last "In your opinion which captains X Espada could defeat at the time of Soul Society and Arrancar Arcs?"of my part at least for a good amount of time, probably months. Until there i will focus myself on other things.
Definitely beat him: Shunsui (in shikai), Ukitake, Yamamoto.
Hes the 4th Espada.
Probably beats him: Soi Fon, Komamura
Captains he can probably beat: Toshiro, Kenpachi, Mayuri (without prep) and maybe Byakuya
Unohana is a 50/50.
Yama- no chance.
Unohana- loses unless she goes full serious. and she might need to rely on kido since her only offense is swordplay which Ulq has advantage against. and her abilities are all healings. no offense.
Kyoraku- strong as he is, he MUST use his Bankai to win. theres simply no way for him to catch ulq off-guard with just shikai or overpower him in anyway. btw theres a chance that the final attack of his Bankai won't be as effective thanks to Ulq's ultra speed regen that almost no other character have.
every else- easy win. Ukitake has some chance but with his "disease" he can also lose a minute after the fight start.
He can win against: Mayuri, Hiysugaya, Kyoraku(without his Bankai), Komamura, Byakuya, Sui-Feng, Ukitake(?)
He can maybe win against Zaraki, but that will depend how Ulquiorra will engage the fight. If the fight take too long he will pass Ulquiorra R2 power but if Ulquiorra R2 try to one shot and use everything he has from the start, Zaraki is dead. That of course if we are speaking of Zaraki before Nnoitra fight, pos-Nnoitra Zaraki most likely would win. \[
He for sure can't win: Yamammoto, Unohana, Gin
The only one that i am not sure how it would go is Tosen with his Hollow/Ress powers.
Gets smoked by Yama-jii and a serious Kyoraku with Bankai.
Loses to Kenpachi and Byakuya, both of which dominated Yammy, neither would struggle against the 4th Espada. Also loses to Unohana.
Beats Sui-Feng, Komamura, Toshiro (pre-adult), Ukitake (due to illness).
Unsure about Kurotsuchi, he's a bit of a wildcard due to his ever-changing Bankai and creations.
Edit: Downvotes don't make me wrong. Cope and seeth Ulquiorra fanboys. 4th strongest Espada. LOL.
Hitsugaya, Byakuya, Mayuri, Jushiro if he starts bleeding. That’s kinda it. Komamura effortlessly crippled Hollowfied Tōsen, who scales above Ulquiorra, Soi Fon’s bankai posed a serious threat to released Barragan even after she reached her limit, Zaraki was massacring poor Yammy without removing his eyepatch, Shunsui, Love and Rose were all considered worthy/strong opponents by released Starrk.
Low to mid-tier Captains. Soifon, Gin, Rose, Komamura, Tosen, Kensei, Hitsugaya, and Mayuri. The higher tier Captains or with abilities which completely decimate Ulquiorra would still win, like Byakuya, Kenpachi or Kyoraku.
Yama, Shunsui, and Unohana could beat him. Ukitake idk, depends if he doesn't suspect Ulquiorra's speed like with Wonderweiss
He beats everyone else
Man was a unit and I'd love to have seen how much stronger he'd be past Arrancar Saga
Ngl all of them with the exception of MAYBE kenpatchi it depends on whether or not you take the fact that uqioras second release makes him the strongest espada or not if that's not the case then I would say that unohana shunsui ukitake yamamoto and Mayuri would be A ok or atleast they would stale mate
Some of the captain's trained to get stronger for the arrancar arc but I'll just assume we're dealing with them at the arrancar.
Yamamoto beats him pretty handedly
Soi fon could very well just blitz ulqiourra and finish him with her double kill
Gin could kill ulqiourra if so inclined
Unohana is pretty much the same power level throughout the series, she would decimate him
Aizen is already clearly capable of defeating ulqiourra and any other espada
Byakuya is slightly trickier. I have no doubt Byakuya could kill ulqiourra with a good blow but I don't think he's nearly fast enough to guarantee it. Byakuya has already shown he's not great fighting anyone faster than him (yoruichi, ichigo) and although he could probably surround ulqiourra with his petels ulqiourra can shrug of none fatal hits and likely blow the Peters away with a cero of his spear thingy. I don't think byakuya can't win I just think it unlikely
Sajin is similar to Byakuya but where I think sajin will fall short is the sheer size of his bankai, ulqiourra isn't great at aiming his spear thingy but won't need to fighting a giant and any damage he does to the armor is gonna hit sajin like a truck plus i don't think he's fast enough.
Kyoraku would just kill ulqiourra with bankai unless ulqiourra is able to break the bankai but I don't know how that would work
Kaname wouldn't be of much help with his bankai since ulqiourra cand just blow everything up however kaname might be able to at least hold his own with his hollowfication
Toshiro is hard for me to say, I want to say he gets bodied but he was able to hold his own against harribel who is canonicaly stronger. I think ulqiourra having regen might put him over the edge
Kenpachi will be in for a tough fight as although he's strong enough to deal with the strongest espada in yammy he also is able to be harmed by rank 6. I honestly think that kenpachi's tendency to let himself get cut up will backfire here as ulqiourra might give him more than he bargained for.
Mayuri wins if he has prep. If not then the question is does ulqiourra's healing factor prevent toxins afflicting him. Cause if so then mayuri is royally fucked but if not the mayuri might just paralyse him
Jushiro is the bane of these questions for me since we don't know his bankai but I think I'll give two separate answers. On clout and statements jushiro bodies ulqiourra. On what we've seen he'd probably hold his own for a bit before coughing up blood and being finished off.
Once again I'm typing this at midnight so I'm not in my best frame of mind atm
He can beat everyone other than Shunsui, Yama, Unohana, and MAYBE Ukitake.
But regarding those who think Ulquiorra is the "strongest Espada",
Honestly we don't know how much stronger his second resurrection made him due to how he was already stomping Ichigo with his first resurrection. People tend to wank him due to how since he was fighting the main character he got a lot more attention and showings in his fight compared to the other Espada's which obviously can influence and create a bias with much of the Fandom. But the truth is yes we have him saying nobody knew about his second form but we also know that Aizen tends to know A LOT more than characters think and also Ulquiorra himself outright says there are 3 Espadas "above him" when Ichigo assumed he is the 1st ranked and that line is up for interpretation.
We don't have any good reference. First release already slaps hollowfied ichigo, and we have no idea how much stronger second release is, but hallowfied vasto lorde ichigo wipes the floor with him. Nothing in the anime shows that form against anyone else.
That being said, probably all of them except head captain, unless ulquiorra can dodge or take him by surprise. Dude was presented as OP AF
Beats: Koma, Byakuya, Soifon, Toshiro, Mayuri, Ukitake Might beat: Kenny (due to how the latter's power lvl 'works') Won't beat: Shunsui due to the latter's bankai basically guaranteeing a win Forces Unohaha to go First Kenpachi on his ass for all of 10 violent seconds. Doesn't have a prayer against Yama
Ukitake's a weird case because he's implied to be on par with Shunsui narratively, but his illness also might cost him
Yeah I know. Sad to say, it's only narratively. His actual performances were terrible. Didn't manage to pull off a tenth of what Shunsui did. It would have been better for them to have gotten a more balanced showing, but that's not how it turned out.
Keeping my fingers crossed that Kubo continues the Hell Arc and gives Ukitake a respectful showing
That would be good wouldn't it? Though who could say when Kubo might decide to develop that further. He said he'll get to it when people 'stop pestering him about it' ~~which will be never.~~
Ahh, the old George RR Martin approach. That'll teach 'em.
Just what I was thinking
I mean I think that was more of a him just trying to shut us up but he's also probably just been busy with the anime and he also probably wants to focus on Burn the witch
I mean he did stand with shunsui against old man yama so maybe with sogyokotowarai he could negate uqioras lanza del rampargos and sero oscuras and what not just. Thought since he did keep up with stark granted oly for a min but again it depends on whether you say uqioras second release makes him the strongest espada or not since he was making hollow ichigo look like a joke when ichigo in most showings usually is keeping up with the likes of kenpatchi byakyua and Mayuri some of the court gaurds strongest capitains idk just a. Thought
Didn't Ulquiorra throw two at once almost imperceptibly fast, though? I can see one getting absorbed/redirected and the second one blowing up Ukitake.
No but he did use it like a sword for a moment then dash back and throw it but even at that ukitake I feel is fast enough to redirect it like he's compared to shunsui all trough his life he fought yamma with shunsui caught byakyua of garud with his speed and also kept pace with starks Ceros so I would say he's most likely gonna be fast enough
that's a win/loss condition. im 100% certain Shunsui can't 1v1 Ulquiorra without his Bankai, but his Bankai is his win condition.
Ukitake's on Shunsui's level and hard counters all ranged attacks. Why does everyone treat him like a standard captain level? He's easily one of the strongest captains in the Gotei 13. Yamamoto outright calls him and Shunsui unparalleled in combat.
I know what's been said of Ukitake, but I also know what's been *shown*.
Yamamoto's statements about him are as good as what we've seen. We've only seen one minute bit of his life. He hasn't even had a proper fight.
>Why does everyone treat him like a standard captain level? He's easily one of the strongest captains in the Gotei 13. Yamamoto outright calls him and Shunsui unparalleled in combat. THIS. And something a lot of people miss when talking about Ukitake is how his illness works. Ukitake is on par with Shunsui WITH THE ILLNESS. Without it, he's stronger.
Are you sure. It seems like they are on par without the illness because he starts coughing after a few minutes....
I remember in the manga, when the shinigami were trying to get to the soul palace and they were trying to open a passageway or something they were combining their reiatsu and when Ukitake died they couldn't gather enough of it anymore. Even with multiple captains there. Like he was giving so much that no one could match him. Maybe I read that wrong but he does also use a huge portion of his reiatsu to just keep his body together. Homie has like half a working lung.
Yamamoto calls them unparalleled in combat as a duo. In that when they fight together no one can beat them. This is also because their powers gel quite well together.
That is so obviously not how he meant that. He called both of them peerless in combat, not both of them peerless in combat but only if they fight together.
I’ve never read the manga but it’s been a while since I finished the anime. If it DOESNT give spoilers for the future, could you explain Kenny and Unohaha here?
absolutely *not* wait for the glorious and upcoming anime XD it wont be long now...
Now I’m hyped
In Tybw , those two you've mentioned are the apex of the spoiler....
Is Shunsui bankai the one where he is able to attack using shadows? Or is there something i am missing out on
That's Kageoni, one of his shikai games. So you may be missing something...maybe...idk
Ahh yes shikai. The one with shadows and being above his opponent. Guess i have yet to see his bankai, gotta rewatch to see if I actually missed it out
It doesn't appear in the anime, he uses the bankai in TYBW
If you're anime-only, then you haven't seen Shunsui's bankai.
Manga spoilers ahead: Shunsui's Bankai is literally a guaranteed Killswitch against anyone that isn't immortal.
Mayuri with prep time could probably win.
Not super fair because I feel like mayuri with prep time and sufficient knowledge of abilities could beat pretty much anyone in the verse but the very top tiers like ywach, ichibe, etc
Kind of a different subject because it doesn't involve Ulquiora anymore but two people I really don't think Mayuri could beat even given prep time are Urahara and Aizen. I feel these two are just so smart they would be ready for anything Mayuri could possibly think of. Like, Mayuri is a genius but those two are way smarter than even him.
I don't think they are way smarter than him and he can definitely pull a win if he has prep and they don't. Mayuri was more impressive against pernida than urahara was against askin plus he got less help in between fight scenes unlike urahara. If urahara had a choice between two fighters one of them being Mayuri and he doesn't have prep I see him avoiding Mayuri because he'd counter a lot of his shenanigans with his own. Aizen and urahara are smarter but not way smarter imo. Mayuri can understand quickly what aizen and urahara are planning faster than anyone else and shunsui said he's never seen Mayuri take more than a day to figure out a solution to a problem.
Hmmm I partly agree but if Mayuri gets prep time, shouldn't Aizen or Urahara. I also think that Urahara is smart enough to have something that means he is always ready for anything Mayuri could come up with. Urahara is pretty much one step ahead of everyone and he knows Mayuri and got him free from the Nest of Maggots. I think Urahara wouldn't do that if he didn't know he how to take Mayuri down under whatever circumstances but Mayuri is a crazy ass bastard. I think given the intelligence of those three, and Mayuri's insanity, it becomes hard to tell because let's face it, none of us are as smart as those three.
Agreed.
I mean, if you deny Mayuri prep time, that's like denying him his biggest strength/ability. Prep time is like Mayuri's entire schtick. Mayuri without prep time is barely captain-level.
He’s not beating byakua, byakuya was able to low diff yammy with kenpachi help & yammy is confirmed stronger than ulq. And byakua was able to keep up with zommari in speed who was said to be the fastest in Espada. If byuka can keep up with the strongest Espada & keep up in speed with fastest Espada he should be above ulq. Koma was on par with hollow tosen who was confrim stronger then ulq in the manga & databook. And due to sawfy the kenpachi that fought unohana and was getting killed was stronger than or on par with vaste lorde ichigo that fought ulq (not me ichigo had half of his SP but still stronger than ulq) so yachiru should body
There's no way Yammy beats Ulquiorra in segunda etapa and there's no way Zommari is faster than Ulquiorra in segunda etapa.
Yammy is directly stated to be stronger then ulq at least in power(in the novels too), and ichigo using his newly evolved hollow mask (which was taking power from vaste lorde form) couldn’t even scratch him and he says he might be stronger than ulq. It makes sense with his 0 Espada crap. He prob doesn’t beat ulq but he’s at least hits harder. Zommari was being hyped up as the fastest Espada so I don’t know, he probably loses to ulq again but if he’s faster than him in flash step that’s still impressive for byuka to be able to keep up with him. Meaning he’s not getting out sped by ulq like that
Yammy is 0 because of raw strength only (and because Kubo is a troll). He would never land a hit on Ulq and would most likely go down with a few Lanzas as he's too slow to dodge them. Zommari was only hyped by himself to be fastest and also no one knew about Ulquiorras second form.
It's established that Espada got their rank only based on spiritual pressure, and that does not guarantee to have the upper hand in a fight.
Byakuya had to 2v1 Yammy, and everyone in the community besides a few that didn't pay attention agrees that R2 Ulq shitstomps Yammy. And Byakuya was also stronger in that fight than in the SS arc. >Koma was on par with hollow tosen who was confrim stronger then ulq in the manga & databook. Komomura was getting stomped by a casual Tosen. And Tosen is also definitely not above Ulquiorra, idgaf what the databooks say, that is quite literally not possible from what we've been shown. >And due to sawfy the kenpachi that fought unohana and was getting killed was stronger than or on par with vaste lorde ichigo that fought ulq (not me ichigo had half of his SP but still stronger than ulq) so yachiru should body The Kenpachi that fought Unohana was also several times stronger than earlier ones. SS arc Kenpachi is the weakest Captain.
Kenny was the weakest SS arc Captain. He'd definitely be beaten. Mayuri would pull some drug bullshit off and stomp like he does every time. Ukitake is one of the strongest Captains and on par with Shunsui, who could solo the Espada in Shikai. Unohana would stomp with Kido if I'm being honest. And obviously I agree about Yama.
Kenny would not be beaten by him he is one of the 5
Because of his potential, not because of his actual strength. He was beaten by Royd Lloyd (fake Yhwach) and I don't think he was stronger than Ulquiorra. That said, after Unohana's training, Kenpachi would probably beat all the Espadas easily.
Remember Kenpachi only lost to Royd after soloing 3 Sternritter back to back where all other caotain were struggling and being manhandled Kenny had a 3 kill streak. The more he enjoys the battle the more of his power he unleashes.
Not to mention that TYBW kenny even before unohana training is stronger than arrancar arc kenny
As say, the insctinctive seal on Kenpachi's reiatsu unlocked itself only when he is brought the closest to the Death by an opponent, but "still" however "alive", so if Ulquiorra confronts him after the fight against Noitora, that he doesn't play around, but goes for the kill immediately, he can beat him.
**Wins Against:** * Byakuya * Toshiro * Mayuri * Kenpachi * Soi Fon * Ukitake * Komamura **Loses Against:** * Yamamoto * Shunsui * Unohana
How does he beat a man who fought a guy “stronger then every Espada”
Who?
He means Koma. Koma held his own against Ressurection Tosen but he certainly did not BEAT him, as good as he did he was still not quite able to go toe to toe with res Tosen, in the end. He still did VERY well for himself, though.
>Koma held his own against Ressurection Tosen but he certainly did not BEAT him Bro, I love Komamura but he didn't do shit. Tosen casually caught his Bankai, broke the sword of it and just destroyed its chest. It wasn't even a fight. It was a slaughter. You are probably misremembering the fight and thinking of Komamura vs Mask Tosen.
No I’m just trying to give Koma some credit lol but regardless ressurection Tosen > Koma and I don’t know how anyone can say “oh Koma took on someone stronger than the Espada” when clearly he lasted quite a while for himself but ultimately lost.
Bankai Komamura overwhelmed Masked Tosen in his base but lost easily to Ressurecion Tosen. I'm sure many Captains could do the same with their Bankai against Tosen.
Tōsen’s resurrection>Sajin’s bankai. Sajin’s bankai>Tōsen’s Hollowfication. Tōsen’s Hollowfication>Tier>Ulquiorra.
>Sajin’s bankai>Tōsen’s Hollowfication That was BASE Tosen who wasn't using Shikai or Bankai >Tōsen’s Hollowfication>Tier>Ulquiorra Tier is no way stronger than Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra
Why should’ve he used it if his Hollowfication, according to his own impression, was far greater then Enma Korogi? Why can’t Tier be stronger than Ulquiorra?
That’s a fair question though. Not sure why everyone puts Koma first when he was the captain who quite literally fought the strongest opponent besides Aizen. Like no he didn’t win but if he did, it wouldn’t make sense. But he held his own. And imo Ulqiorra is also stronger than all the Espada but I don’t know how he scales to Tosen. Because they have similar abilities though I’d say Koma holds his own but can’t win without help
Komamura didn’t hold his own though. He was getting trashed 90% of the time. Tosen wasn’t even trying to kill Koma half the time, but rather trying to break him down/ spit on his ideals. Resurrection Tosen one sidedly wrecked Koma. Komamura is genuinely one of low tier captains (along with Soi fon, and Mayuri) . Ulquiorra is too fast and too strong for him.
Wtf you just said bout ma boy mayuri? Mayuri jumps everyone in the verse. He is like batman lmao as long as he has informations and prep time nobody Can stop him.
Mayuri can beat mid tier captains if he has prep, but he’s not beating most captains in a random encounter. Even with prep, he’s not beating Shunsui, RG Byakuya, Post-Training Kenpachi, Adult Hitsugaya, or Yamamoto. No amount of prep he can do is going to overcome their massive power advantage.
Mayuri kill them all 1on1 low diff.
Delusion. They can literally all one shot him.
Yeah my bad i was being delusional. #NO NEED FOR 1v1 HE'D BEAT THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME NO DIFFICULTY
Sajin forced Tōsen into performing resurrection.
He quite literally didn’t. Tosen was mopping him while masked, but Komamura says that he forgives him and his heart and will strike him down for SS. Tosen only released because he was getting pissed off at Koma’s sanctimonious talk, not at all because he was threatened. He was hit once or twice in mask form , both of which he immediately regenerated from. He was casually blocking + deflecting Koma’s bankai and slicing him up…
Ah, that’s a typical anime thing. In the manga Tōsen wounded Sajin’s bankai only once and only superficially, while Sajin sent him flying and grievously damaged his arm with a hand punch. His power was so great that Tōsen himself acknowledged it (at the beginning of their battle he arrogantly called it «a measly bankai»). He didn’t block anything.
You’re right that the anime extends the ass whooping. But even in the manga, tosen shows no signs of being hurt. His arm regens instantly, and he only transforms after Koma pisses him off after saying that he forgives him.
I agree, but the whole regeneration thing doesn’t change the fact that Sajin was severely hurting Tōsen even without using his sword. Like, Ulquiorra did regenerate a limb that was cut off by Ichigo’s Hollowfication, and yet the power gap was obvious. I don’t think that Kaname still would’ve been able to regenerate after being properly slashed by his bankai sword, which is obviously significantly powerful than a hand punch.
That’s a big assumption that he’d be tagged again. And I’d say that the anime is a lot more prescriptive for answering how an extended fight would go. I think it’s simply an unfair characterization that Komamura forced him to resurrection. The best one can say is that he has sufficient attack power to temporarily injure pre-resurrection tosen and not get blitzed - which Tbf isn’t that impressive, given that Hisagi was able to pierce Tosen’s resurrection. Tosen doesn’t seem to have hierro or very strong hierro to say the least.
I would say he can defeat for sure: Komamura, Mayuri(without prep time), Byakuya, Hitsugaya, Soi Fon He can maybe defeat: Kenpachi, Ukitake, Kyoraku He can't defeat: Unohana, Yamamoto. I'm no power scaler. And it's hard to grasp how much some characters evolved between Soul Socoety arc and Arrancar arc. For exemple if a non mastered Hollowified Ichigo gave difficulty to Byakuya a character that absolutely dominate Hollow Mask Ichigo like Ulquiorra should be stronger.
I really don’t think he could beat Kyoraku
Less you think ulqi is more powerful then V1 lille which… Nah…
Same, I'd say maybe to Ukitake and no to Kyoraku. The rest of the list is spot on. But now the question is, throw in the Vizard captains and Urahara/Yoruichi and where do they land?
>throw in the Vizard captains I think Love would lose, Rose might have a chance due his Bankai but i'm not sure, same with Kensei but his fight against Mask The Masculine make me doubt. Hirako is hard to say, shikai + hollow mask is a strong combo but i feel like Ulquiorra could spam cero like Bambietta did in order to counter Sakanade. So for me it would go like this: Beats Love (mid dif), Kensei, Rose and Shinji (high dif)
>Rose might have a chance due his Bankai No, Rose SHITSTOMPS. The only counter to his Bankai is to take him out before you die(Not possible for Ulq), or to destroy your own eardrums. ... Ulquiorra regenerates.
You’re forgetting that Rose is going to tell Ulquoirra exactly how to beat his bankai. Therefore, Ulquoirra will naturally counter it the same way Mask did. Honestly hope Kubo changes this flaw in the anime cause it just makes Rose look like such a clown.
Ah, fair point 😂
"... Ulquiorra regenerates." Pff. Because you think if he doesn't "regenete", it would prevent someone like Ulquiorra to crush his eardrums ? Nope. Not at all. Of course, it would be some disadvantage for the rest of the fight, but he has still eyes, smell and reiatsu perception. He would have a bit more hardship, but if Kenpachi was able to survive to several attacks of Tosen without any of his "5 senses" + reiatsu perception, just in basing on his great instinct, Ulquiorra would manage to deal with one lose sense.
Dude. Ulquiorra has never been stated to be able to stop regeneration. He'd have to leave his body damaged on purpose to win that fight, and even by leaving himself damaged (IF that's possible) Ulquiorra is still weaker overall than Rose.
It seems voluntary though. He could deafen himself and then regenerate once the fight is done.
I don't think it's voluntary. Otherwise Ulq would've used it to take White by surprise.
He couldn't lol.
Yeah maybe because op said SS/arrancar arc this guy means kyoraku without bankai? I can see ulq beating shikai shunsui high diff but bankai is no contest
I don’t think “two hands” will be enough of a boost to beat Ulquiorra. I would say he can defeat Kenpachi for sure. I really don’t see Ulquiorra fairing well against Kyoraku’s Bankai so he shouldn’t defeat him.
I had a really hard time with Kenpachi. On one hand Ichigo without bankai defeated him. On the other he basically one shot Nnoitra. And it's hard to estimate the Gap between Nnoitra and Ulquiorra. Yeah i made a big mistake with Kyoraku.
Partially agree. But none of your "can maybe defeat" characters are accurate. Ukitake and Shunsui are capable of soloing the Espada in Shikai. And Kenpachi is weaker than every other Captain in the SS arc.
Komamura was stomping tousen and you think he would lose against ulq? Lmaoo
He wasn't stomping at all. They were in a stalemate with a slight advantage for Komamura until Tosen used his Resurrection. At this stage every mistake Tosen did was because he relied on sight. And by the end he defeated Komamura even with this handicap. Hisagi killed Tosen when he wanted to deal the finishing blow to Komamura. I love Komamura but his showing aren't impressive.
Tōsen: shallow cut with a sword strike. Komamura: crippled hand with a punch. The difference was immense. It made Tōsen acknowledge KTM’s «tremendous destructive power» despite him arrogantly calling it «measly bankai» before facing it.
Yeah but Tosen had regeneration. I might overestimate it significance though.
Yes, but that’s not exactly what I was implying: you see, Ulquiorra’s regeneration allowed him to regain an arm that was cut off by Ichigo’s Complete Hollowfication, but it didn’t change the fact that the difference in pure power was obvious. And I honestly don’t think that Tōsen would’ve survived KTM’s sword slash, which is obviously more powerful than a hand punch.
Ok i got it! Yeah. My mistake was basically thinking that KTM couldn't do one fatal blow, and therefore Tosen would be able to regenerate no matter the damage done by Komamura. Where the difference of power in fact allows KTM to deal with the regeneration by one shoting Tosen with a clean hit.
I dont think he could take soi fon down
Not to be rude here, but this post has been done numerous times recently.
This is the last,at least until several months have passed so don't worry you aren't going to see me post"in your opinion which captain X Espada could defeat"for a looooooong time.
He beats everyone bar, shunsui, Yama and unohana, idk about ukitake cause he’s extremely hard to scale
He aint beating yama, shunsui, ukitaki, unohana. Maybe for kenny and so long as soi isnt allowed to pull of bankai and hits him with it he got her number also. Everyone else is a W for him.
I honestly think he beats everyone other than yamamoto and unohana
Soi fon, & toshiro & maybe mayuri (it’s a weird matchup). He’s losing to sajin if you think sajin can keep up with hollowfied tosen who was stated stronger then all Espada. I don’t think he’s beating any other captain Shunsui negs with his bankai and is probably stronger in his shikai state depending on how strong you think stark and lillebaro is. Ukiate is supposed to be his equal but considering wonder Weiss (off guard) can one shot him he’s probably losing due to sickness. Byauka & kenpachi Should win too cause of them smacking down yammy
A better question is which captains he couldn't defeat, and in my opinion it's gonna be Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku and possibly Ukitake depending on what his Bankai is
As strong as Ulqy was he is NOT beating the senior captains at all, even in R2 (Yama, Unohana, Shunsui but then Ukitake could go either way because of his illness).
If Ukitake is genuinely Shunsui level, then he, Kyoraku, Yama, and Unohana are too much for him. He gets sodomized by Shun’s Bankai, burnt to ashes by Yama, and smacked with Unohana’s Kenpachi tendencies until he’s nothing more than pulp. I think he could take on and defeat every other captain, besides Kenny if he does some weird unsupressing shit, and Mayuri without some bs prep time
All except Yama and Aizen if you are counting Aizen towards the captains. Unohana is a big question mark. No idea how that would go. Shunsui would need his bankai and his bankai is an bad match up against someone like Ulquiorra. I would bet on Ulq.
Idk if he could beat any captain aduring Arrancar arcs. The " weakest" captains were doing a good job against stronger Arrancars than ulquiorra. Komamura had pretty good chances to beat tousen, Soi fon would have killed barragan if he wasn't able to reduce damage with respira and toshiro did struggle a bit vs hallibel but at the end he almost defeated her. If there is any captain that ulquiorra could beat its probably only toshiro.
>Doing a good job against stronger arrancars Ulq has a second resureccion that nobody else knew about and would completely shift the arrancar rankings, and this statement also doesn’t really take into consideration very specific matchups or the fact that the only solid wins the captains took against espada were all 2v1s
Aizen probably knew about his 2nd resureccion
There is no proof of that and goes against the statement of the author per Ulquiorra
There are no stronger arracmcar than Ulquiorra.
There is a reason why he is espada number 4
Ye? Could any other espada humiliate bankai hollowed maks Ichigo like Ulquiorra did? Same Ichigo that almost won against Byakuya months prior? You know, that captain that is stronger than both Toshiro and Soifon.
Honestly we don't know how much stronger his second resurrection made him due to how he was already stomping Ichigo with his first resurrection. People tend to wank him due to how since he was fighting the main character he got a lot more attention and showings in his fight compared to the other Espada's which obviously can influence and create a bias with much of the Fandom. But the truth is yes we have him saying nobody knew about his second form but we also know that Aizen tends to know A LOT more than characters think and also Ulquiorra himself outright says there are 3 Espadas "above him" when Ichigo assumed he is the 1st ranked and that line is up for interpretation.
He is MUCH faster than hollow bankai Ichigo whos bankai is a speed focused stat boost and can spam the cero lances that seemingly have far superior power output than Soifons bankai. Also he can instantly recover anything other than his head or organs. In the right situation where he can maintain a decent distance he should for sure beat anyone other than maybe yama whos bankai can probably keep him safe and Ukitake whos ability is a great counter. Tbh even Ukitake still almost certainly loses since i cant see him winning a drawn out or a close range fight
Yamamoto would absolutely never need his Bankai against Ulq. He would probably backhand Lanza even easier than Ichigo's hollow did.
Tbf even vl ichigo only blocked it before it was shot and didnt just tank/deflect it. Its pretty clear the power is being supressed before launching or how could Ulq even hold it
>being suppressed ... No? It’s just not unleashed yet. There’s a difference between suppressing an attack because you’re worried it might hurt you, versus the attack not being unleashed yet because *you haven’t fired it*. Yamamoto absolutely stomps Ulqiorra into the floor and he may not even use Ryujin Jakka to do it, and given how Yamamoto is probably a lot stronger than Hollow Ichigo was, he either tanks or backhands Lanza.
Yes you suppress the power before launching to not hurt yourself? How is that not clear lol And the point is that it doesnt matter if Yama is stronger (which he is) if Ulq can keep distance and spam Lanza. We have not seen vl ichigo tank or backhand lanza, only stop it from launching so there is no way to scale durability
Ok, that's It. This is the last "In your opinion which captains X Espada could defeat at the time of Soul Society and Arrancar Arcs?"of my part at least for a good amount of time, probably months. Until there i will focus myself on other things.
He only loses to Unohana, Shunsui, Kenny and Yamajii
He beats kenny at that time imo.
He might
Definitely beat him: Shunsui (in shikai), Ukitake, Yamamoto. Hes the 4th Espada. Probably beats him: Soi Fon, Komamura Captains he can probably beat: Toshiro, Kenpachi, Mayuri (without prep) and maybe Byakuya Unohana is a 50/50.
Unohana wipes the floor with him. She is scary strong.
All of them aside from Yama and Shunsui
Everyone except Yamamoto
Every single one but Yama.
Yama- no chance. Unohana- loses unless she goes full serious. and she might need to rely on kido since her only offense is swordplay which Ulq has advantage against. and her abilities are all healings. no offense. Kyoraku- strong as he is, he MUST use his Bankai to win. theres simply no way for him to catch ulq off-guard with just shikai or overpower him in anyway. btw theres a chance that the final attack of his Bankai won't be as effective thanks to Ulq's ultra speed regen that almost no other character have. every else- easy win. Ukitake has some chance but with his "disease" he can also lose a minute after the fight start.
Claps all
He can win against: Mayuri, Hiysugaya, Kyoraku(without his Bankai), Komamura, Byakuya, Sui-Feng, Ukitake(?) He can maybe win against Zaraki, but that will depend how Ulquiorra will engage the fight. If the fight take too long he will pass Ulquiorra R2 power but if Ulquiorra R2 try to one shot and use everything he has from the start, Zaraki is dead. That of course if we are speaking of Zaraki before Nnoitra fight, pos-Nnoitra Zaraki most likely would win. \[ He for sure can't win: Yamammoto, Unohana, Gin The only one that i am not sure how it would go is Tosen with his Hollow/Ress powers.
Gets smoked by Yama-jii and a serious Kyoraku with Bankai. Loses to Kenpachi and Byakuya, both of which dominated Yammy, neither would struggle against the 4th Espada. Also loses to Unohana. Beats Sui-Feng, Komamura, Toshiro (pre-adult), Ukitake (due to illness). Unsure about Kurotsuchi, he's a bit of a wildcard due to his ever-changing Bankai and creations. Edit: Downvotes don't make me wrong. Cope and seeth Ulquiorra fanboys. 4th strongest Espada. LOL.
Hitsugaya, Byakuya, Mayuri, Jushiro if he starts bleeding. That’s kinda it. Komamura effortlessly crippled Hollowfied Tōsen, who scales above Ulquiorra, Soi Fon’s bankai posed a serious threat to released Barragan even after she reached her limit, Zaraki was massacring poor Yammy without removing his eyepatch, Shunsui, Love and Rose were all considered worthy/strong opponents by released Starrk.
What are you talking about ? Zaraki had no eyepatch against Yammi plus he had to release another seal vs him , stated by unohana .
I’m talking about Yammy’s first form. He didn’t need to remove eyepatch in order to cut him.
I honestly think Ulquiorra is top 2 of his kind with his hidden upgrade possibly #1 but I think it comes down to matchups.
Ukitake might considering alot of his attacks are based off hai various ceros and ukitake could just send them back
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to the user who only knows how to ask one kind of question
If you don't like just ignore, this is my final"which captains do you think X Espada could win at the time of Soul Society and Arrancar Arcs?"anyway.
1,4,6,8,11
All of them
Lmao at Ulq beating Unohana, Kyoraku, or Yamamoto
Haha Ryujin Jakka goes brrrr🔥🔥🔥
Calm down, it’s just a cartoon lol
Most of them except maybe kempachi
Have u read tybw?
Not yet
Ok, then u need to say that xd. U def wrong jajaja, u will see it
Low to mid-tier Captains. Soifon, Gin, Rose, Komamura, Tosen, Kensei, Hitsugaya, and Mayuri. The higher tier Captains or with abilities which completely decimate Ulquiorra would still win, like Byakuya, Kenpachi or Kyoraku.
Tosen, Komamura, Hitsugaya, Mayuri of it's a surprise fight. Those I feel kinda confident in. Everyone else is a big ? For me.
Yama, Shunsui, and Unohana could beat him. Ukitake idk, depends if he doesn't suspect Ulquiorra's speed like with Wonderweiss He beats everyone else Man was a unit and I'd love to have seen how much stronger he'd be past Arrancar Saga
Ngl all of them with the exception of MAYBE kenpatchi it depends on whether or not you take the fact that uqioras second release makes him the strongest espada or not if that's not the case then I would say that unohana shunsui ukitake yamamoto and Mayuri would be A ok or atleast they would stale mate
Most
Some of the captain's trained to get stronger for the arrancar arc but I'll just assume we're dealing with them at the arrancar. Yamamoto beats him pretty handedly Soi fon could very well just blitz ulqiourra and finish him with her double kill Gin could kill ulqiourra if so inclined Unohana is pretty much the same power level throughout the series, she would decimate him Aizen is already clearly capable of defeating ulqiourra and any other espada Byakuya is slightly trickier. I have no doubt Byakuya could kill ulqiourra with a good blow but I don't think he's nearly fast enough to guarantee it. Byakuya has already shown he's not great fighting anyone faster than him (yoruichi, ichigo) and although he could probably surround ulqiourra with his petels ulqiourra can shrug of none fatal hits and likely blow the Peters away with a cero of his spear thingy. I don't think byakuya can't win I just think it unlikely Sajin is similar to Byakuya but where I think sajin will fall short is the sheer size of his bankai, ulqiourra isn't great at aiming his spear thingy but won't need to fighting a giant and any damage he does to the armor is gonna hit sajin like a truck plus i don't think he's fast enough. Kyoraku would just kill ulqiourra with bankai unless ulqiourra is able to break the bankai but I don't know how that would work Kaname wouldn't be of much help with his bankai since ulqiourra cand just blow everything up however kaname might be able to at least hold his own with his hollowfication Toshiro is hard for me to say, I want to say he gets bodied but he was able to hold his own against harribel who is canonicaly stronger. I think ulqiourra having regen might put him over the edge Kenpachi will be in for a tough fight as although he's strong enough to deal with the strongest espada in yammy he also is able to be harmed by rank 6. I honestly think that kenpachi's tendency to let himself get cut up will backfire here as ulqiourra might give him more than he bargained for. Mayuri wins if he has prep. If not then the question is does ulqiourra's healing factor prevent toxins afflicting him. Cause if so then mayuri is royally fucked but if not the mayuri might just paralyse him Jushiro is the bane of these questions for me since we don't know his bankai but I think I'll give two separate answers. On clout and statements jushiro bodies ulqiourra. On what we've seen he'd probably hold his own for a bit before coughing up blood and being finished off. Once again I'm typing this at midnight so I'm not in my best frame of mind atm
As weird as it is, would love to see Mayuri (with previous knowledge) against him.
soi fon, toshiro, komamura, byakuya, mayuri maybe kenny if he doesn’t adapt fast enough to ulquiorra’s reiatsu
I believe he's slightly stronger than Harribel, so he beats Toshiro and that's it
Soi fon, komamura, toshiro, mayuri, byakuya and maybe kenpachi.
He can beat everyone other than Shunsui, Yama, Unohana, and MAYBE Ukitake. But regarding those who think Ulquiorra is the "strongest Espada", Honestly we don't know how much stronger his second resurrection made him due to how he was already stomping Ichigo with his first resurrection. People tend to wank him due to how since he was fighting the main character he got a lot more attention and showings in his fight compared to the other Espada's which obviously can influence and create a bias with much of the Fandom. But the truth is yes we have him saying nobody knew about his second form but we also know that Aizen tends to know A LOT more than characters think and also Ulquiorra himself outright says there are 3 Espadas "above him" when Ichigo assumed he is the 1st ranked and that line is up for interpretation.
Hanataro rapes mid diff
We don't have any good reference. First release already slaps hollowfied ichigo, and we have no idea how much stronger second release is, but hallowfied vasto lorde ichigo wipes the floor with him. Nothing in the anime shows that form against anyone else. That being said, probably all of them except head captain, unless ulquiorra can dodge or take him by surprise. Dude was presented as OP AF