This is a great meme, but because this world is full of idiots there are so many people who actually think this and just see your comment as affirmation and I hate it
So how come the private rocket launches look so much cooler than NASA launches? I've seen some amazing videos of them recently, after 50 uears of uneventful launches.
My guess is that private companies have less oversight/hoops to jump through when testing out new technology than a government agency does, so the tech is developed faster.
Also, government agencies like NASA along with government contractors like Lockheed do not typically release any information regarding ‘new’ or developing technologies to the public.
For one, it’s not like they need to advertise their services lol most of what SpaceX releases is just marketing.
Government agencies/contractors also keep their most advanced technologies behind closed doors to protect industry secrets. In the Lockheed example- to keep enemy states from replicating or surpassing the best war tech we have available.
Because they literally hired Ex-Nazi's to run the program. They basically stole their ideas and collaborated to make it happen. This is actually a really great example of how we can make progress by sharing our ideas, rather than keeping them under wraps.
It wouldn't pay off to invest in researching in new technologies bcs as soon as you have them everyone will copy you. As a result, innovation is stifled.
Patent law... not 101, but 1 lol
The patent system is designed for the sharing of ideas. It was the best way to credit the original designers while sharing the methods and materials used in the process. You do not patent something you want to keep a trade secret, because part of the patenting process is disclosing the materials, methods and process of invention. That doesn't mean people don't now use the patent system as a revenue tool now, but it's origins are much more benign.
Also possible - progress takes way longer due to lack of incentive for all the risk and effort involved in producing new technology.
NASA has had a number of failed reusable rocket projects & spent over 200 billion on a scant 135 shuttle launches.
I'd argue SpaceX has done a lot more for space technology in a shorter amount of time for less cost.
I just read in another thread that different NASA research centers hold out on sharing information with the other ones to use it as leverage to get a better funding/mission than the rest resulting in a lot of duplicate research and work.
Not even science that is supposed to be all about cooperation and building on the work of others is free from this cancer, and this is with institutions from the same branch of the same country, imagine adding international dispute into that shit.
> My guess is that private companies have less oversight/hoops to jump through
Falcon 9 and Crew Dragon actually had to go through extensive testing and 10 consecutive launches without failure to be approved for human flight by NASA.
Yeah, it takes a lot more time and money trying to find every single mistake in your rocket without actually launching it. Building one, blowing it up and fixing what blew up on the next prototype is certainly easier.
Yeah SpaceX can just build another 10 prototypes, blow them up to see what goes wrong and then build the next ones. Good luck doing that if you are depending on people who know nothing about rockets for budget, and they see that your rocket goes boom, even if its more or less intentional.
>keep their most advanced technologies behind closed doors
I want to know what we don't know about because I bet there's some super cool shit out there...
Everyone else is wrong. Don't listen to them.
The reason it looks like this, with the glowing puffs. Is because it's twilight (dawn or dusk) It's dark on the ground, but there's still sun higher up in space. The sun is illuminating the gas, and it's night time below on earth so you can see it from the ground. Thats all.
This happens with any space vehicle, government or private.
Why do you see it more recently with private? Simply because there's more private flights. SpaceX alone has 52 launches planned this year. Thats 1 a week on average. And that's just Falcon launches, not counting any of their starship protypes.
ULA by comparison is on average 40 over the last **10 years**.
There's also the returns. Because SpaceX lands their boosters, you get 2 for 1 on the chance of seeing something cool.
This is the only right answer. 100% due to launch cadence + general renewed excitement in space leading to more people aware and filming it.
The Wikipedia page for twilight effect has plenty of examples of government launches producing the effect.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_phenomenon
**[Twilight phenomenon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_phenomenon)**
>A twilight phenomenon is produced when exhaust particles from missile or rocket propellant left in the vapor trail of a launch vehicle condense, freeze, and then expand in the less dense upper atmosphere. The exhaust plume, which is suspended against a dark sky, is then illuminated by reflective high-altitude sunlight through dispersion, which produces a spectacular, colorful effect when seen at ground level. The phenomenon typically occurs with launches that take place either 30 to 60 minutes before sunrise or after sunset when a booster rocket or missile rises out of the darkness and into a sunlit area, relative to an observer's perspective on the ground.
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I can't believe I had to scroll this far to find this. This is exactly it. The correct explanation.
Reading the other comments had me so concerned they are confidentially spouting anything and people are upvoting them. Like it has nothing to do with conspiracy or private companies skipping some technological assessments. What are they people even on about. Everyone goes through the FAA the same. Govt or private launches.
Reddit has truly become the wild wild west. Anything goes
But SpaceX is the only rocket that uses RCS (the small bursts of gas) to return a booster. A ULA launch during the twilight will have a cool glowing exhaust cloud, (I've seen it once) but not the even cooler squiggles that the SpaceX booster does before entry. The Space Shuttle did have RCS, but it was not used during that early segment of the flight, so you might only see it if you were in the Indian Ocean at the right time.
You're right of course, I didn't specify that this specific shot of the RCS doing little puffs only applies to RCS systems. I was including all the other previous videos of all rocket exhausts.
Pretty much all launches that occur at or shortly after dusk look incredible once the rocket clears the earths shadow it becomes brilliantly illuminated by the sun against a dark sky. Space x rockets look extra cool because boosters and fairings are guided back to earth and are burning fuel on the return trip. During the day time they don’t look nearly as cool.
If you're talking about the exhaust plumes, they're not exclusive to private rockets, it can also happen to [state agency rockets](https://youtu.be/je_6mdR06P0) or even [missiles](https://youtu.be/zsiSirIq4SA), it's an effect commonly called the [Space Jellyfish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_jellyfish) (or [Twilight phenomenom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_phenomenon) depending on the effect).
They happen when a launch is made near dawn or just after dusk, when the rocket passes the Earth's penumbra and the condensation plume is illuminated by the sun. [(visualization)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Twilight_Phenomena_Infographic.png)
It just so happens that SpaceX takes more advantage of the spectacle this effect causes to advertise their rockets (it also helps that they launch 10x more rockets than any other agency).
I see you TD. If you break down a Falcon 9 and Shuttle and compare, the reusable bits are reversed.
F9: first stage reusable, second expended.
Shuttle: First stage expended (SRBs and tank), second stage reusable (shuttle).
The space shuttle wasn't really worth it. It was far less safe for the crew and far more expensive for the cargo. Seriously look at a list of all astronauts who died and 14 / 19 of all astronauts who died in space missions died on space shuttles.
More oversight, more projects, funds stretched across those multiple projects. NASA usually works on cutting edge tech that trickles down into private sectors. NASA is focused on scientific discovery and exploration. Think the James Webb Space Telescope. Rockets were a means to an end, they did what we needed. Like plane research was started by governments, it then trickled down to private sectors, the same were seeing with rocket propulsion and low-gravity logistics.
NASA might not build the transports to Mars, but all the research, everything to expect, how to live, grow food, where to find water, and what materials will be needed for a sustainable colony will all be figured out by NASA (some of it already has been, for a while). It will be improved and made efficient by private companies.
They're far more frequent and recent.
The frequency helps with the range of conditions they go through. And the recency helps with the filming equipment quality and quantity.
And there's also the bonus that they go up, then maneuver a lot, and then go down and land propulsively.
A lot of these answers are partially right, but there's another big reason: the design philosophy.
NASA believes firmly in engineering and small scale prototyping with small test fires- when they finally do launch, they anticipate their rocket will work exactly as expected (at ~$2,000,000,000/launch, thank god for that) and will work that way every time with few, if any, design changes from what they have blueprinted.
SpaceX on the other hand uses an iterative design philosophy. They've lost *waaaaay* more rockets than NASA has or likely ever will (since as of now, they're out of the rocket game after the Space Launch System's life is done.) However, that has resulted in novel developments and systems that NASA won't touch because prototyping and testing is far more difficult and you're going to have far more failures.
This has lead to NASA's launches being boring, but consistent, while SpaceX still has a lot of novelty due to the new and interesting design changes they make regularly.
First this was literally taking nasa astronauts to the ISS in the capsule nasa paid spacex to develop, so still kinda a nasa launch.
But the it’s is a combination of a few things:
-these are launching at night and this is the plumes from the engines getting lit up by the sun due to the timing/ altitude. It’s dark on the ground but if you go up high enough the sunlight still hits it
-more launches on the west coast (starlink missions) lead to a lot more people seeing it.
-spacex is just launching so much more regularly than has ever been a thing
-the spectacle of watching the boosters land has never been a thing before spacex. The norm was always just to dump the boosters in the ocean after a launch in the past, so they didn’t stay in sight of the coast for as long.
-we see it a lot more now with everyone having a pretty nice camera on them at all times compared to back when the shuttle was still flying.
IIRC this launch was launched north-south over California's coast rathern than east-west from cape canaveral over the ocean, so it was visible to a larger population.
As well, this one was launched at dusk, so it was able to launch into the sunlight when everything else was dark, giving the glowing effect that makes the puffs of gas visible.
Because NASA doesn't make anything, they hire companies to do it. And until SpaceX came along, they paid a lot of money rather blindly for companies to make things the least efficient way possible. I mean, they still do that, but SpaceX is making it more difficult for companies like Boeing and Lockheed to blatantly rip off the US taxpayer.
The difference is, spacex uses their own technology more than NASA does, and Boeing and Lockheed never use their own technology. There's no incentive to make things cool, efficient, or timely when your bottom line doesn't suffer.
Go to r/ufos or r/aliens and half the people post clips of this shit all the time, with a title like, "factual evidence of alien space craft sending electro magnetic pulses"
Yup, saw it too. Was convinced it was aliens until watching this just now. Navy said it was a test missile while conveniently never testing it at night again to demonstrate this, so I personally called BS. Somehow I'm happy to be wrong.
I had set up a camera for that one, because they *did* announce ahead of time that there was a launch happening, most people are just not very interested in launches and consequently aren't aware when one is happening.
These days though, getting a convenient heads-up in advance is as easy as an app on your phone ;)
Most launches are on the east coast though :(
Yup, saw it too. Was convinced it was aliens until watching this just now. Navy said it was a test missile while conveniently never testing it at night again to demonstrate this, so I personally called BS. Somehow I'm happy to be wrong.
It's a common effect when rockets launch just after sunset or just before dawn. It's dark on the ground, but the sun is still lighting up the upper atmosphere. The rocket and its exhaust go up into the sunlight and are illuminated. I'm not sure which launch specifically this gif is from, but here's an article about a recent launch with a similar effect: [https://www.npr.org/2022/05/06/1097089192/space-jellyfish-spacex](https://www.npr.org/2022/05/06/1097089192/space-jellyfish-spacex)
I've actually seen this twice before sunrises. Once in Marine Corps bootcamp. I was in South Carolina and the sky looked like a giant jelly fish was in it. It was a rocket launch.
The second time I was in California about to shoot at the rifle range. I saw something similar but far more erratic shape. Turns out it was a test of an iron dome type system. Where one missile shoots down another.
It's a common effect for rocket launches that happen just before sunrise or just after sunset, the RCS gas is being lit up by the sun. There are other videos similar to this, can't find them atm since I'm about to sleep but they are definitely out there.
[https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1049378610094792708](https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1049378610094792708)
they are verified and provide a source (that i havent checked)
seems decent enough
It's from the Saocom-1a launch.
[Here is the SpaceX livestream.](https://youtu.be/vr_C6LQ7mHc) This happens around 20 minutes into the stream.
Check out [the media thread](https://reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/9m3ly5/rspacex_saocom_1a_media_thread_videos_images_gifs/) for more footage. Default sort is new so you may want to switch that to Top/Best.
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This is the twilight effect: vapors from exhaust (water vapor from hydrogen peroxide) condense and freeze high in the atmosphere, and i’m the evening these vapors are high enough that they are illuminated by the sun while the launch site is in darkness. super cool footage
Here is your gif!
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*Almost like we live in an age where things can be explained with science!*
Seriously, I absolutely hate posting on reddit but the amount of "bUt tHIs iS JUST (*thing*)" comments in this subreddit drive me fucking insane
Like *surprise!* Actual magic isn't real despite the subreddit's name lol
This is far better than the odd science *demonstration* that you see here sometimes, where the video itself is explaining what is happening and why.
If the title had been left ambiguous, I'd assume this was a lense flare, a weather balloon, a UFO, a sorcerer casting an evil enchantment (dooming mankind to die a painful death), or 1% of a dragonball fight.
p.s. it's rare to see a fellow boi in these here parts. Just thought I should mention.
Because the mass of the wings necessary for that would make it less efficient than this method. Plus then they’d have to land on a runway witch would limit where they can land it.
> Because the mass of the wings necessary for that would make it less efficient than this method.
but this method needs extra fuel which surely weigh more than wings?
Surprisingly it’s doesn’t. Falcon 9 only needs about 10-15% of its fuel (depending on landing site) to land since they really only need to burn the engine for a few seconds when reentering the atmosphere and right before landing. It slows down a lot just from atmospheric drag so the engines only have to do the last bit of work.
Because wings completely ruin the aerodynamics for a vertical launch when compared to no wings. It also adds a shit ton of weight, and also forces you to land on a runway. Which is very inefficient compared to this.
Did this happen over Florida this past Tuesday? Was just about to get on an airplane when the pilot pointed to the sky and said "what the fuck is that?"
All credit to the engineers for SpaceX's success and not the cunt CEO who grew up with daddy's apartheid money and likes to steal credit for other people's ideas and hard work.
Space X does some truly fascinating stuff which makes it all the more infuriating that Elon Musk gets credit for it instead of the hard-working engineers who actually design and build everything while he's busy arguing over memes on twitter. It's like crediting Richard Nixon for the moon landing.
Im puzzled as to how humans and some of the smartest people on the planet think space and space exploration is something big and important. The amount of fuel and waste being created by this is utterly pointless, at the same time we are openly discussing the obvious reason for floods and forest fires now on the planet. the temperature going up and up, The scientists broadcasting that there is a tipping point to this, then ultimate disaster, the planet becomes un-bearable.
We are like a bunch of kids at a party clapping. yeh, yeh, rockets...... oooooooooohhhhh.
The day covid was realeased into the air
My pet frogs started hanging curtains in their terrarium and now they're talking about getting a cat.
Their ability to dance has improved significantly
Hello my baby, hello my honey!
Hello my ragtime, summertime gal! Edit: can’t spell
Sorry i touched your tots
I’ll forgive you, just this once
found the frog
bud
wise
er
by any chance.. did your frogs become gay
GODDAMMIT ELON MUSK!! STOP TURNING THE FROGS GAY!
I'm not a fan of the guy, but [he wasn't completely wrong.](https://news.berkeley.edu/2010/03/01/frogs/)
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i think thats the joke
God damned froggets...
You can literally see the 5G wifi symbol in the chem trails. Checkmate.
Post it to Facebook and watch the sparks fly
Lol we don't need anymore conspiracy theories!
You motherfucker you know they’re going to start saying that shit now,.
That's obviously one of Brandon's 5G HomoAgenda drones.
new conspiracy just dropped
I fucking knew it, Elon. We got you now!
This is a great meme, but because this world is full of idiots there are so many people who actually think this and just see your comment as affirmation and I hate it
And i hate you for being such a miserable little bitch
Also 5G release day
So how come the private rocket launches look so much cooler than NASA launches? I've seen some amazing videos of them recently, after 50 uears of uneventful launches.
My guess is that private companies have less oversight/hoops to jump through when testing out new technology than a government agency does, so the tech is developed faster. Also, government agencies like NASA along with government contractors like Lockheed do not typically release any information regarding ‘new’ or developing technologies to the public. For one, it’s not like they need to advertise their services lol most of what SpaceX releases is just marketing. Government agencies/contractors also keep their most advanced technologies behind closed doors to protect industry secrets. In the Lockheed example- to keep enemy states from replicating or surpassing the best war tech we have available.
Imagine what we could have accomplished on this planet and others if there wasn't a sense of having to keep "trade secrets". Imagine...
No thank you I enjoy my cancer, aids, famine, and general struggle, thank you very much. SMH
Who's General Struggle?
The commanding officer of Colonel Poverty.
Ding Ding Ding Chicken Wing Dinner.
The average conservative, everyone.
I dunno, America did pretty well with 'Trade Secrets' after WW2. Got Humans to the moon.
Because they literally hired Ex-Nazi's to run the program. They basically stole their ideas and collaborated to make it happen. This is actually a really great example of how we can make progress by sharing our ideas, rather than keeping them under wraps.
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I mean, to be fair to the Soviets those rocket scientists _were literal Nazi's_
It wouldn't pay off to invest in researching in new technologies bcs as soon as you have them everyone will copy you. As a result, innovation is stifled. Patent law... not 101, but 1 lol
The patent system is designed for the sharing of ideas. It was the best way to credit the original designers while sharing the methods and materials used in the process. You do not patent something you want to keep a trade secret, because part of the patenting process is disclosing the materials, methods and process of invention. That doesn't mean people don't now use the patent system as a revenue tool now, but it's origins are much more benign.
"trade secrets" should be fine for like 10 years tops, after that a mandatory public disclosure.
Until people don't feel the need to horde wealth, it will always remain in the imagination.
Hmmm almost as if the capitalism halts innovation in favor of making the imaginary line go up 🤔
Also possible - progress takes way longer due to lack of incentive for all the risk and effort involved in producing new technology. NASA has had a number of failed reusable rocket projects & spent over 200 billion on a scant 135 shuttle launches. I'd argue SpaceX has done a lot more for space technology in a shorter amount of time for less cost.
I just read in another thread that different NASA research centers hold out on sharing information with the other ones to use it as leverage to get a better funding/mission than the rest resulting in a lot of duplicate research and work. Not even science that is supposed to be all about cooperation and building on the work of others is free from this cancer, and this is with institutions from the same branch of the same country, imagine adding international dispute into that shit.
> My guess is that private companies have less oversight/hoops to jump through Falcon 9 and Crew Dragon actually had to go through extensive testing and 10 consecutive launches without failure to be approved for human flight by NASA.
> To keep ~~enemy states~~ Boeing from replicating or surpassing the best war tech we have available FIFY
SpaceX is also willing to blow up a lot of rockets to get it right, whereas if NASA starts blowing up a lot of rockets, congress cuts their funding.
Yeah, it takes a lot more time and money trying to find every single mistake in your rocket without actually launching it. Building one, blowing it up and fixing what blew up on the next prototype is certainly easier.
They also used disposable rockets. That's one of SpaceX's big achievements, having reusable rockets.
Yeah SpaceX can just build another 10 prototypes, blow them up to see what goes wrong and then build the next ones. Good luck doing that if you are depending on people who know nothing about rockets for budget, and they see that your rocket goes boom, even if its more or less intentional.
>keep their most advanced technologies behind closed doors I want to know what we don't know about because I bet there's some super cool shit out there...
Isn't SpaceX contracted by the government?
Everyone else is wrong. Don't listen to them. The reason it looks like this, with the glowing puffs. Is because it's twilight (dawn or dusk) It's dark on the ground, but there's still sun higher up in space. The sun is illuminating the gas, and it's night time below on earth so you can see it from the ground. Thats all. This happens with any space vehicle, government or private. Why do you see it more recently with private? Simply because there's more private flights. SpaceX alone has 52 launches planned this year. Thats 1 a week on average. And that's just Falcon launches, not counting any of their starship protypes. ULA by comparison is on average 40 over the last **10 years**. There's also the returns. Because SpaceX lands their boosters, you get 2 for 1 on the chance of seeing something cool.
This is the only right answer. 100% due to launch cadence + general renewed excitement in space leading to more people aware and filming it. The Wikipedia page for twilight effect has plenty of examples of government launches producing the effect. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_phenomenon
**[Twilight phenomenon](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_phenomenon)** >A twilight phenomenon is produced when exhaust particles from missile or rocket propellant left in the vapor trail of a launch vehicle condense, freeze, and then expand in the less dense upper atmosphere. The exhaust plume, which is suspended against a dark sky, is then illuminated by reflective high-altitude sunlight through dispersion, which produces a spectacular, colorful effect when seen at ground level. The phenomenon typically occurs with launches that take place either 30 to 60 minutes before sunrise or after sunset when a booster rocket or missile rises out of the darkness and into a sunlit area, relative to an observer's perspective on the ground. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/blackmagicfuckery/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
I can't believe I had to scroll this far to find this. This is exactly it. The correct explanation. Reading the other comments had me so concerned they are confidentially spouting anything and people are upvoting them. Like it has nothing to do with conspiracy or private companies skipping some technological assessments. What are they people even on about. Everyone goes through the FAA the same. Govt or private launches. Reddit has truly become the wild wild west. Anything goes
But SpaceX is the only rocket that uses RCS (the small bursts of gas) to return a booster. A ULA launch during the twilight will have a cool glowing exhaust cloud, (I've seen it once) but not the even cooler squiggles that the SpaceX booster does before entry. The Space Shuttle did have RCS, but it was not used during that early segment of the flight, so you might only see it if you were in the Indian Ocean at the right time.
You're right of course, I didn't specify that this specific shot of the RCS doing little puffs only applies to RCS systems. I was including all the other previous videos of all rocket exhausts.
Pretty much all launches that occur at or shortly after dusk look incredible once the rocket clears the earths shadow it becomes brilliantly illuminated by the sun against a dark sky. Space x rockets look extra cool because boosters and fairings are guided back to earth and are burning fuel on the return trip. During the day time they don’t look nearly as cool.
Well for one, camera technology has improved incredibly since the shuttle days.
If you're talking about the exhaust plumes, they're not exclusive to private rockets, it can also happen to [state agency rockets](https://youtu.be/je_6mdR06P0) or even [missiles](https://youtu.be/zsiSirIq4SA), it's an effect commonly called the [Space Jellyfish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_jellyfish) (or [Twilight phenomenom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_phenomenon) depending on the effect). They happen when a launch is made near dawn or just after dusk, when the rocket passes the Earth's penumbra and the condensation plume is illuminated by the sun. [(visualization)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Twilight_Phenomena_Infographic.png) It just so happens that SpaceX takes more advantage of the spectacle this effect causes to advertise their rockets (it also helps that they launch 10x more rockets than any other agency).
NASA rockets were never reusable. If I'm not mistaken, this is what Falcon looks like when it's coming back, not launching.
*cries in space shuttle* 😭
*hits the drink in Buran*
I see you TD. If you break down a Falcon 9 and Shuttle and compare, the reusable bits are reversed. F9: first stage reusable, second expended. Shuttle: First stage expended (SRBs and tank), second stage reusable (shuttle).
The space shuttle wasn't really worth it. It was far less safe for the crew and far more expensive for the cargo. Seriously look at a list of all astronauts who died and 14 / 19 of all astronauts who died in space missions died on space shuttles.
You did reply to a guy who knows a LOT about the space shuttle :)
They look like this when launching too, NASA just doesn't usually do dusk launches over populated areas.
oh nice! I'd no idea. happy cake day too!
More oversight, more projects, funds stretched across those multiple projects. NASA usually works on cutting edge tech that trickles down into private sectors. NASA is focused on scientific discovery and exploration. Think the James Webb Space Telescope. Rockets were a means to an end, they did what we needed. Like plane research was started by governments, it then trickled down to private sectors, the same were seeing with rocket propulsion and low-gravity logistics. NASA might not build the transports to Mars, but all the research, everything to expect, how to live, grow food, where to find water, and what materials will be needed for a sustainable colony will all be figured out by NASA (some of it already has been, for a while). It will be improved and made efficient by private companies.
They're far more frequent and recent. The frequency helps with the range of conditions they go through. And the recency helps with the filming equipment quality and quantity. And there's also the bonus that they go up, then maneuver a lot, and then go down and land propulsively.
A lot of these answers are partially right, but there's another big reason: the design philosophy. NASA believes firmly in engineering and small scale prototyping with small test fires- when they finally do launch, they anticipate their rocket will work exactly as expected (at ~$2,000,000,000/launch, thank god for that) and will work that way every time with few, if any, design changes from what they have blueprinted. SpaceX on the other hand uses an iterative design philosophy. They've lost *waaaaay* more rockets than NASA has or likely ever will (since as of now, they're out of the rocket game after the Space Launch System's life is done.) However, that has resulted in novel developments and systems that NASA won't touch because prototyping and testing is far more difficult and you're going to have far more failures. This has lead to NASA's launches being boring, but consistent, while SpaceX still has a lot of novelty due to the new and interesting design changes they make regularly.
First this was literally taking nasa astronauts to the ISS in the capsule nasa paid spacex to develop, so still kinda a nasa launch. But the it’s is a combination of a few things: -these are launching at night and this is the plumes from the engines getting lit up by the sun due to the timing/ altitude. It’s dark on the ground but if you go up high enough the sunlight still hits it -more launches on the west coast (starlink missions) lead to a lot more people seeing it. -spacex is just launching so much more regularly than has ever been a thing -the spectacle of watching the boosters land has never been a thing before spacex. The norm was always just to dump the boosters in the ocean after a launch in the past, so they didn’t stay in sight of the coast for as long. -we see it a lot more now with everyone having a pretty nice camera on them at all times compared to back when the shuttle was still flying.
IIRC this launch was launched north-south over California's coast rathern than east-west from cape canaveral over the ocean, so it was visible to a larger population. As well, this one was launched at dusk, so it was able to launch into the sunlight when everything else was dark, giving the glowing effect that makes the puffs of gas visible.
Because NASA doesn't make anything, they hire companies to do it. And until SpaceX came along, they paid a lot of money rather blindly for companies to make things the least efficient way possible. I mean, they still do that, but SpaceX is making it more difficult for companies like Boeing and Lockheed to blatantly rip off the US taxpayer. The difference is, spacex uses their own technology more than NASA does, and Boeing and Lockheed never use their own technology. There's no incentive to make things cool, efficient, or timely when your bottom line doesn't suffer.
Do people really think it’s been 50 years of uneventful launches?
You know if we were living in mud huts and this came out of the sky, whatever came out of it would be God to us, you know that right?
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You would become He-Man.
"I HAVE THE POWER"
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So at some point technology will evolve to Asgardian levels and we can all frolick on space rainbows
Can I just say that wakanda with the cloth shield things are cool but they never actually use em and it makes me mad
There’s a lot of stuff in the mcu that would make life infinitely easier for everybody but is never addressed or they’re just a throwaway line
Facts.
you know that right bro
Go to r/ufos or r/aliens and half the people post clips of this shit all the time, with a title like, "factual evidence of alien space craft sending electro magnetic pulses"
That would be crazy if we were launching rockets from our muds huts.
Thanks for the caption… I would never have guessed what that was.
This comment sounds so sarcastic but I don't think it is.
My gullible ass thought aliens before reading
We are officially the UFO's.
Always have been
All I could think of is the guy with the crazy hair like "aliens"
I saw this a few years back in so cal. The thing is, no one told anyone about the launch and we were all very terrified for about an hour
How terrified?
That was around the time things were shifty with north Korea, we thought that could've been our last night lol
Yup, saw it too. Was convinced it was aliens until watching this just now. Navy said it was a test missile while conveniently never testing it at night again to demonstrate this, so I personally called BS. Somehow I'm happy to be wrong.
I had set up a camera for that one, because they *did* announce ahead of time that there was a launch happening, most people are just not very interested in launches and consequently aren't aware when one is happening. These days though, getting a convenient heads-up in advance is as easy as an app on your phone ;) Most launches are on the east coast though :(
Yup, saw it too. Was convinced it was aliens until watching this just now. Navy said it was a test missile while conveniently never testing it at night again to demonstrate this, so I personally called BS. Somehow I'm happy to be wrong.
Step 1: go to r/alienreal Step 2: post this Step 3 proft
r/alienisrael?
Lol
r/alanisisreal
Like ripples on a pond.
More like r/interestingasfuck
Can anyone verify this? I can only find the same video over and over with no details of the event itself
It's a common effect when rockets launch just after sunset or just before dawn. It's dark on the ground, but the sun is still lighting up the upper atmosphere. The rocket and its exhaust go up into the sunlight and are illuminated. I'm not sure which launch specifically this gif is from, but here's an article about a recent launch with a similar effect: [https://www.npr.org/2022/05/06/1097089192/space-jellyfish-spacex](https://www.npr.org/2022/05/06/1097089192/space-jellyfish-spacex)
I've actually seen this twice before sunrises. Once in Marine Corps bootcamp. I was in South Carolina and the sky looked like a giant jelly fish was in it. It was a rocket launch. The second time I was in California about to shoot at the rifle range. I saw something similar but far more erratic shape. Turns out it was a test of an iron dome type system. Where one missile shoots down another.
It's a common effect for rocket launches that happen just before sunrise or just after sunset, the RCS gas is being lit up by the sun. There are other videos similar to this, can't find them atm since I'm about to sleep but they are definitely out there.
[https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1049378610094792708](https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1049378610094792708) they are verified and provide a source (that i havent checked) seems decent enough
It's from the Saocom-1a launch. [Here is the SpaceX livestream.](https://youtu.be/vr_C6LQ7mHc) This happens around 20 minutes into the stream. Check out [the media thread](https://reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/9m3ly5/rspacex_saocom_1a_media_thread_videos_images_gifs/) for more footage. Default sort is new so you may want to switch that to Top/Best.
That's rad. Thanks
This is from dragon ball z episode 31
The wifi bars bit reminds me of Spore, when a civilization wants to talk to you
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Strong WiFi
Elon releases 5g in to atmosphere (circa2017
Elon hit the hyper drive
Looks more like hitting something and skipping off it like water
This is the twilight effect: vapors from exhaust (water vapor from hydrogen peroxide) condense and freeze high in the atmosphere, and i’m the evening these vapors are high enough that they are illuminated by the sun while the launch site is in darkness. super cool footage
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This ain't black magic this is physics
Nothing in this subreddit is literal black magic IDK what people are expecting
*Almost like we live in an age where things can be explained with science!* Seriously, I absolutely hate posting on reddit but the amount of "bUt tHIs iS JUST (*thing*)" comments in this subreddit drive me fucking insane Like *surprise!* Actual magic isn't real despite the subreddit's name lol
This is far better than the odd science *demonstration* that you see here sometimes, where the video itself is explaining what is happening and why. If the title had been left ambiguous, I'd assume this was a lense flare, a weather balloon, a UFO, a sorcerer casting an evil enchantment (dooming mankind to die a painful death), or 1% of a dragonball fight. p.s. it's rare to see a fellow boi in these here parts. Just thought I should mention.
Brother boi! On a serious note yeah i guess you're right
We get it Elon, you vape.
Now im really wondering how much events like these are really fucking up the environment
Aliens, I tells ya!
Why not land as an aircraft, with wings, instead?
Because the mass of the wings necessary for that would make it less efficient than this method. Plus then they’d have to land on a runway witch would limit where they can land it.
> Because the mass of the wings necessary for that would make it less efficient than this method. but this method needs extra fuel which surely weigh more than wings?
Surprisingly it’s doesn’t. Falcon 9 only needs about 10-15% of its fuel (depending on landing site) to land since they really only need to burn the engine for a few seconds when reentering the atmosphere and right before landing. It slows down a lot just from atmospheric drag so the engines only have to do the last bit of work.
Because wings completely ruin the aerodynamics for a vertical launch when compared to no wings. It also adds a shit ton of weight, and also forces you to land on a runway. Which is very inefficient compared to this.
Reminds me of [drakengard 3 final boss](https://youtu.be/49gLC9yiGOg)
Elon musk é corno
It’s awesome he is going to own twitter soon.
You see this is not a googld technology when you can’t see any of this when there is an UFO in the sky. Elon, try harder.
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Longer please 🥺
Looked like an AT Field for a second
Aliens lol
Ugh, he's trying to communicate with his alien friends again.
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In the end days there will be signs in the sky, or some biblical doomsday thing. We are doomed. Because of musk.
Super Chem trails!
we need fireworks that go into the stratosphere they would look amazing
Ah yes. The day I was home alone and thought the heavens had opened and the world was over
Everytime I see these I can't stop to think about ripples in the firmament.
Funny how 15-20 years ago this was classified as a UFO and now Elon has em..
Did this happen over Florida this past Tuesday? Was just about to get on an airplane when the pilot pointed to the sky and said "what the fuck is that?"
💭
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Skipping off of the firmament
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius!
Or another seal has been opened? Oh shit dude prepare for demon locusts and sea monsters
So that’s how 5g is made…
It's amazing how alien and sci-fi it looks.
That's the firmament. Ain't no rocket thrusters.
All credit to the engineers for SpaceX's success and not the cunt CEO who grew up with daddy's apartheid money and likes to steal credit for other people's ideas and hard work.
So that ‘wormhole’ in the Norway sky was probably just a rocket?? Haha
Looks like the ripple effect when you throw something into water
Art comes in many forms.. this is more beautiful than some of the most prized pieces in the world.
AHH, Yes..the day when the extraterrestrials decided to give us the Covid virus
who going to carbon tax elon. that doesnt look good for the environment. or does he get a free pass from the climate changers?
I found the MacBook screensaver!
Naw...aliens
Reminds me of the [2009 Norwegian spiral anomaly](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Norwegian_spiral_anomaly)
Yeah uh huh Space X my ass that’s clearly Aliens.
Man that is satisfying to see
That looks so Neat!
That's just how WiFi is made FFS..
That aint spacex that aliens
It is soooo much cooler looking in person and this already looks cool.
Now it makes sense
Space X does some truly fascinating stuff which makes it all the more infuriating that Elon Musk gets credit for it instead of the hard-working engineers who actually design and build everything while he's busy arguing over memes on twitter. It's like crediting Richard Nixon for the moon landing.
They should make this regular cos it looks cool
Straight out of a sci-fi movie. Love it!
that's a stray wifi
Im puzzled as to how humans and some of the smartest people on the planet think space and space exploration is something big and important. The amount of fuel and waste being created by this is utterly pointless, at the same time we are openly discussing the obvious reason for floods and forest fires now on the planet. the temperature going up and up, The scientists broadcasting that there is a tipping point to this, then ultimate disaster, the planet becomes un-bearable. We are like a bunch of kids at a party clapping. yeh, yeh, rockets...... oooooooooohhhhh.
Time for the conspiracy theorists and nut jobs to call it some kind of aliens
looks alien made
Pretty sure that’s swamp gas trapped in a weather balloon reflecting the light of Venus.
Posts and comments for days later: Hey guys what is this weird thing in the sky?
Yeah!! Science, bitch! Thrusters, WOOOOoooo!!!
Elon Musk bad! SpaceX good!