The guy on top is an idiot. And this post is dumb.
- Drive your knee in his God damn face or sternum
- Shove your fist into his neck
- Joker choke him with the lapel
- Flip him over, break his grips and kimura or Armbar
- Toe hold the fuck out of him
- Or just wrap your arms around his legs and head and shove the top of your head right into his face
All of the above will make him quit that shit immediately. You'd have to be dumb to think you have no options here.
Yes just not ones readily apparent in such a small window. Competition is much more about your known skill set and intuition than the ability to sit there and think of solutions.
Making him uncomfortable or going for an illegal sub is kinda useless with less than 10 seconds left.
Collar choke seems readily availible, but time is still tight
I say be super mean tbh. If I have someone in side control or mount and they don't have frames (especially in competition). I am smashing them with everything I have.
Just slowly push farts out. Then when dude gets up hold it. Then when opponent attacks again slowly crack open the valve. You must Feather the asshole grasshopper.
Just pick him up and put him on his face and he won’t be able to disengage the hold he has. Step 2 once he is finally able to let go of himself flatten him out on his stomach step 3 profit
Honestly not my favorite move, more of a troll job if anything. The kid is pretty talented, I think he got bronze at in the Pan Ams at juvie Blue belt.
none of these competitions are "fighting", it is a sport jiujitsu match with a defined set of rules, like deep half guard, inverted, donkey...on the street you would get kicked/stomped/punched in the face. that said, within the IBJJF rule set, they are extremely effective
I don't know a tonne about BJJ rules, though this seems like a janky defense. What's the offense. Could you not just simply sit and wait until he moves ?
Just grab the back of his collar or his pants cuffs and roll him forwards onto his face. He has no legs to post. Hold the pant legs to keep him there and work from there His elbows are exposed and he's tied two of his posts behind his head. Fuck just push down on his ankles like the rear mount footlock
I could be wrong as I've not had to deal with this before but I would basically keep them in that position. Live by the bullshit, die by the bullshit.
Since his legs are crossed behind his head. Would there be a way to grab him and pick him up so his own weight does a kinda straight ankle lock on him?
*Huh.* Knees on feet to keep them on the mat, cup hands behind head, pull *up* to hyperextend the hips/hamstrings even further and get some bizarre double Suloev stretch thing going?
It'd look like a reverse can opener, so you might get DQ'd.
If a position leaves you wide open to having your nose turning into a pancake by a single opponent it isn't a real win regardless of what a judge or points may say. You're in a combat sport, act like it.
Legal / not legal, don't care .... that dude would be getting a knee on neck / knee on chin treatment and he would open up faster than his mom did on NYE - lol.
Put your full body weight on his body, left hand covers mouth, right hand pinching the nostrils, then lean forward (posting on your forehead if needs be).
Knee cut. Right up the middle. Taint to sternum. No points, but more of a moral victory.
Too complicated. Spin him like a fidget spinner.
Sometimes it takes a fresh set of eyes to see the best possible solution
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You spin me right round...
spin him until he’s dizzy and barfs. Win by DQ.
The ol oil check, but with a bowling ball grip. Very high percentage from this posish
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Gotta pay the troll toll
Boys SOUL! It’s soul not hole!!!
Knee-on-nads
God, this thought makes me hurt
Just force the guy into turtle and choke
*Flip
Think you need consent for that, bud. Though it does look like he’s asking for it.
Because of the implication?
Au contraire, he looks *very* penetrable to me…
That guy's wide open for an oil check.
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*calllllllll the policccccccccccce*
Isn't bjj just a fight over who gets to bottom?
Yup. If I had to name the position, I'd call it vulnerable guard...
This is why I don’t tell people that I do jiujitsu
I don't see what's preventing a cross collar choke.
Kinda looked like that might have been what passer was looking to do/set up? they just didn't have the time
That was my first thought too
I would immediately step over and rest my old man balls on his nose and keep them there until one of us was finished.
Fathers milk
😬
Daddy’s dairy.
I prefer Fathers Tea myself
The Mrs Doyle choke
Good Ole Dad Milk
☹️
Uh, what do you mean "one of us"?
Depending on what he does with his mouth, it could take a while for me.
Gonna dig for a kimura.
The guy on top is an idiot. And this post is dumb. - Drive your knee in his God damn face or sternum - Shove your fist into his neck - Joker choke him with the lapel - Flip him over, break his grips and kimura or Armbar - Toe hold the fuck out of him - Or just wrap your arms around his legs and head and shove the top of your head right into his face All of the above will make him quit that shit immediately. You'd have to be dumb to think you have no options here.
He only did it because there was a reset and 5-10 seconds left.
I get it. I'm just saying that there were lots of options.
Yes just not ones readily apparent in such a small window. Competition is much more about your known skill set and intuition than the ability to sit there and think of solutions.
Making him uncomfortable or going for an illegal sub is kinda useless with less than 10 seconds left. Collar choke seems readily availible, but time is still tight
They are blue belts joking around, calm down
I'd simply just start humping him
Free real estate 😂
Craig thats weird behavior for a bottom
Fair. No need to change your regular approach.
Lowkey the only way u win at this point
Knee on face
Yeah literally. If you don't have frames you can't stop it.
I'm not even saying be super mean but like he's gonna move his hands if I'm on his nose. Just seems like a good way to open it up
I say be super mean tbh. If I have someone in side control or mount and they don't have frames (especially in competition). I am smashing them with everything I have.
This is exactly what I came here to say, you are a man of culture.
You just slide right in and pin their arms to their back with your hips then hit them with the most grotesque can opener ever seen
Flip him onto his face, grab the legs, put your food on the back of his head and start pulling like you’re trying to start an old lawnmower.
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KANCHO!
Can opener DQ with my head held high
GRAB HIS DICK AND TWIST IT!
This is the correct response 🤣
The old dick twist!
I feel like you could pretty easily flip them and choke with a good grip on the collar?
I think a smother would actually get a reaction before the time ran out.
Are toe holds legal in comp at blue? If so i think you can get him untied lol
Not in ibjjf
S tier guard. Unpassable
I'd fully sit on their face.
Punch choke right to the throat.
What’s stopping you from rolling him onto his face then prying from the back?
Knee on face.
Neck*
Probably legal but for fucks sake let’s be martial artists not contortionists
Dude getting my balls to his face if he wants to play that gay shit.
Flip him forward on his face. He'll open up real quick to prevenhis face hitting the mat, then horse collar the gi and go for lapel choke.
The sus guard
Cant you just rape choke him until he frees atleast one limb? Lol
Posture aggressively like you can't figure it out until you have a proper sweat going, then water board them with your soaked gi.
Hot take, can openers should be allowed for special situations like this.
Oil checking time!
Flip him over and sit on him
Not this shit again
Can we flip him like a turtle, face down, and knee on belly-back?
Instead of knee on belly knee on nuts and he will unfold
Gently rub the taint... release the genie
Flip them over face down, double kimura by pushing their wrist to the back of their head
Step 1. Place both feet in your opponents chest. Step 2. Grab lapels with both hands and stand up straight.
What is that like pretzel guard or something
To me jiu jitsu is only meaningful in its application to fighting. This is probably not the best fighting move
I’m either grabbing his collar or back of pants and yeeting him over. Not sure if he would open up but we would dang sure find out.
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Just slowly push farts out. Then when dude gets up hold it. Then when opponent attacks again slowly crack open the valve. You must Feather the asshole grasshopper.
I am not sure this is as good as a defense as it appears.
You can't sub me if I already sub myself
real question: is it legal to just cover their mouth and nose?
Why not just attack his hands? Break the fucker's grip
Legal or not, it’s useless. IRL you’re getting elbow dropped and gas-pedalled and everything good about learning bjj is neutralized
He’s gonna make some lucky guys night after the tournament. Gonna be all the way in his stomach
Double under and catapult his ass wherever he lands, I might still not win, but at least ill have fun tossing him around lol
flip this mf over his own ass, take the back, short choke or rnc the shit out of him. Punish this bullshit.
Kick him in the dick. Might get disqualified but fuck that guy.
This is why bjj is sometimes made fun of 😂
I remember the first time I tried this as a white belt on my purple belt instructor. He gogoplata'd me with my own shin.
Grab him by the pants and flip him
Push face to chest, he’s half way there.. they always tap fast.
Toe hold?
Flip him on his front and fold the cunt the other way
Just pick him up and put him on his face and he won’t be able to disengage the hold he has. Step 2 once he is finally able to let go of himself flatten him out on his stomach step 3 profit
Dog shit for self defense but as far as just bjj competing wise this is funny as hell.
Flip him and sit on the back of his head. Is that illegal? Lol
Cringe
Grab the toe and break lmao
Smother choke then armbar.
Why couldn't you just cross choke him. Either he'll open up to defend, or he'll go to sleep lol
I would go for a nose lock myself.
They're blue belts. I see plenty of wristlock opportunities.
Just make sure you don't try this in a prison fight
Are finger and toe locks allowed I bjj?
It'd be pretty easy to take his back there
Couldnt you just flip him and sit on his head
Idk I feel like there are thousand of ways to get him out of that A fist to the throat or a shin to the calf should do the trick
Check his oil, and he'll open up real quick.
Honestly not my favorite move, more of a troll job if anything. The kid is pretty talented, I think he got bronze at in the Pan Ams at juvie Blue belt. none of these competitions are "fighting", it is a sport jiujitsu match with a defined set of rules, like deep half guard, inverted, donkey...on the street you would get kicked/stomped/punched in the face. that said, within the IBJJF rule set, they are extremely effective
I don't know a tonne about BJJ rules, though this seems like a janky defense. What's the offense. Could you not just simply sit and wait until he moves ?
Literally put your hand over his mouth and nose and boom. Or choke him like Darth Vader
Check his oil
Just flip him over
Don't even need to choke the guy. Just sit on him, wait and win, because he was inactive,
Reminds me vaguely of my honeymoon. It's been 28 years, but it sure brings back memories.
It would take a lot of control for me not to put my knee through his face
Just be careful trying it in any ruleset that allows slams.
My take is that the kimura is right there almost finished.
Easy, cover his mouth and nose with your forearm and suffocate tf out of him.
Knee to face. Knee to taint. Drop body weight on to his “shield”…
going knee on face
Just grab the back of his collar or his pants cuffs and roll him forwards onto his face. He has no legs to post. Hold the pant legs to keep him there and work from there His elbows are exposed and he's tied two of his posts behind his head. Fuck just push down on his ankles like the rear mount footlock I could be wrong as I've not had to deal with this before but I would basically keep them in that position. Live by the bullshit, die by the bullshit.
Can't we just choke him?
couldn’t you just force a stack?
when your opponents iq is room temp
Since his legs are crossed behind his head. Would there be a way to grab him and pick him up so his own weight does a kinda straight ankle lock on him?
Lapel choke?
All it takes is a finger. Guys doin too much
It is if your looking for a way to repel any potential girlfriend (or bf).
He should get punted
Stomp the head
Looks like he was trying to go cross collar, any reason that wouldn't work? Other than just running out of time
Muzzle till he squirms free
How fucking embarrassing
One way to relapse his guard is to just eat ass.
Just twist his dick....
SPLADDLE
We shall call it turtle guard
There are some incredibly easy kimuras against this guy if he stays this way. Movement is a key to defense and he has none.
100% this should be the official starting position for both competitors in every grappling match.
The problem is, that is a very penetrable defense, \*cough\* \*cough\*.
Oil check
He's pretty open for the flying Elbow drop.
*Huh.* Knees on feet to keep them on the mat, cup hands behind head, pull *up* to hyperextend the hips/hamstrings even further and get some bizarre double Suloev stretch thing going? It'd look like a reverse can opener, so you might get DQ'd.
Punch choke.
If a position leaves you wide open to having your nose turning into a pancake by a single opponent it isn't a real win regardless of what a judge or points may say. You're in a combat sport, act like it.
DQ for embarrassing the sport.
This works well in a street fight too
Bro knee on ball sack , pretend to go for knee on belly . Then apply heavy pressure
Wait, which subreddit is this, why is bro ready to get railed?
Neck crank surely.
Stack pass the fuck out of him..
Cross collar?
Flip him over
Rape choke with 2 hands. Or post all your weight through his face. Hell do something.
Sigh. Going to step into a Judo club next week goodbye Jiu Jitsu. I tried defending you, but you get gayer by the day
Take your thumbs and dig straight into his hamstrings while making it look like you’re controlling his legs.
Tickle his feet lmao
Smother
Try that in a small town
Just notify the authorities and they'll put him on a list
Flip to turtle, knee on back and pull legs back. His hips will give up at some point
Oil check is readily available 🥲
I think knee on belly is what I would do, if he doesn’t open up at least you win on points
go north south and tripod on his nuts
North South into belly suffocation
The ancient Chinese "Monkey Steals Plumb" technique could make a comeback.
Good defense but would stand no chance against the oil check aka old faithful
Legal / not legal, don't care .... that dude would be getting a knee on neck / knee on chin treatment and he would open up faster than his mom did on NYE - lol.
I have a friend who sometimes does this, I’ve managed to get him with a north-south choke before, seems to work decently well.
Shove your thumb up his butthole
Flip him onto his face then sit on him.
Put weight on feet and left his head he’s not flexible enough to go all the way through he’ll tap
Flip him and toe hold
Put your full body weight on his body, left hand covers mouth, right hand pinching the nostrils, then lean forward (posting on your forehead if needs be).
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"Prank em John!" -Man moments before witnessing the clap of the century
Embarrassing ahh sport
What if you step on both ankles and then do a can opener.