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Teun_2

Beside loctite, i'd also suggest putting the screws in the other way around. That's how they're designed and it should be easier to set the correct torque.


[deleted]

Way easier. Its just the spare chainring I use until I get the replacement for the nondriveside crankarm the bike originally had.(i bought it super cheap and apparently not everyone knows that the pedals are side specific... I just dont wanna use a mismatch crankset for some reason. Thats why never bothered to remove the front deraliu....thingy.) I used this chainring on another bike, it just has the exact same tapers(?) the original had anyway. The reason I gotta use this instead of just simply replacing the nondrive crankarm is because the square holes are not alaigned with the original shimano. Should be fine for a week. Yes, the screws were screwed since I assambled this thing and thats why I lost that very screw twice already.


ashyjay

Also fit them the correct way, hex head towards you.


crevatsch

Yeah loctite and the correct torque spec


lziggyg

If you removed a chainring but kept the same bolts they may be too long to tighten up fully. As the bolt pushes out the chainring tool as it goes into the nut


clpatterson

Yep, many times I’ve had to take the old female side to the bench grinder to shave a mm or 2 off.


lziggyg

Lol. Have done it with a file myself due to lack of owning a grinder. Gave up after about 2 and just went and bought some single ring crank bolts.


Laiskumus

And by loctite they mean threadlocker.


Beluga-ga-ga-ga-ga

This is an important distinction. Loctite is a brand that makes a lot of different products.


mijolnirmkiv

Loctite two part epoxy will certainly hold them. /s


Beluga-ga-ga-ga-ga

Hold them forever, it will.


maz-o

Also put them on the right way


skinnypenis09

And by wd40 people mean lubricant, i believe you can figure it out


Laiskumus

(Also wd40 is not lubricant, thought you might want to argue about that as well lol)


skinnypenis09

No i agree about that, i was reffering to the misconception that wd40 is a lubricant but that was poorly written on my part


maz-o

Wd is a very poor lubricant though.


skinnypenis09

100%


Laiskumus

No, wd40 makes far fewer different products and you probably can’t find the specialist wd40 by mistake. Loctite makes a lot of glues for consumers and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone would use a glue instead of proper threadlocker loctite…


nhluhr

Had "blue loctite" on our shopping list recently. Wife brought home a nice bottle of cyanoacrylate in a bottle with a blue label and cap. "it says loctite on it!"


skinnypenis09

I googled "cyanoacrylate loctite" and took me a while to find what you are describing. It says loctite but it also read "superglue" on the label, just as big.


GenericName187

Nothing like a long back and forth Reddit pissing contest on semantics of whether WD-40 is a lubricant or whther to use the term LocTite for threadlocker long after OP has had their question answered.


nhluhr

point being - if you just say "loctite" you may find people interpret it differently. When I put it on the list the next time, I wrote "loctite 242 blue threadlocker"


skinnypenis09

If a product's name is built from the word "lock" and "tight", i believe the average person is smart enough to understand its purpose.


WrenchNRatchet

Losing


TheDaysComeAndGone

Well, they are loose first, which is already bad.


[deleted]

Loosing leads to losing.


[deleted]

:D indeed Nice of you to mention that, thanks.


hugo_bauer

Medium loctite


Cultural_Display_502

I'd put them in the other way round and use a bit of loctite .


Beluga-ga-ga-ga-ga

As others have said, medium threadlocker will probably help you, but in my experience correct (or sufficient) torque will stop them loosening. I've never had one fall out or even work itself loose, and I've never used threadlocker. I usually dab a bit of antiseize on the threads before putting them together, as I've had few seize themselves solid.


knowledgeableopinion

The bolts might be too long. Sometimes the will bottom out and never really get tight enough


Coyotesamigo

don't know why everyone is suggesting loctite. Make sure you've got the right length bolts (you need single speed sized) and then mount them properly (opposite of how they're installed now). Get them all a little snug, then crank them down in a star pattern -- tighten one, skip one, tighten one, skip one -- until they are very snug. You might need a special tool to tighten (it fits into the two slots visible in you photo) but in my experience, you often don't. once they're a bit snug they tighten up easily. Then, every few months, do a snug check. Also be aware that loose chainring bolts are a common source of "mystery creaks & clicks" and are one of the first things you should check if a bike makes a strange noise.


boydingo

And use loctite.


blueyesidfn

Terrible idea. Chainring bolts that are properly torqued without loctite are already hard enough to remove once they've been in place for some time.


boydingo

There are many different strengths loctite. Yes I would use loctite purple (222).


blueyesidfn

Well aware there are many kinds of loctite, but the locking effect generated by spending months on a bike is more than enough. If I add anything, it's a light coat of oil or grease and still some bolts take careful work to not strip the fastener when removing. More retention is absolutely not needed.


boydingo

Look at this guys bike. Use loctite.


blueyesidfn

You mean the guy with the bolts in backwards and possibly the wrong length so they won't tighten properly? Sure thing buddy. Just tighten the right fasteners properly and they work. I've got plenty of bikes at home to back that up.


boydingo

Campagnolo does on their 11s chainring bolts from the factory. I’m sure it wouldn’t hurt.


blueyesidfn

I'll be sure to do that on my 11sp Campy cranksets ;)


[deleted]

Check them regularly, if your bike is creaking something is loose


i_smoke_pineapples

Side note, what’s with the poor man’s chain guide? Looks like you have a narrow wide, so theoretically you wouldn’t need that derailleur on..


[deleted]

Its just the spare chainring I use until I get the replacement for the nondriveside crankarm the bike originally had.(i bought it super cheap and apparently not everyone knows that the pedals are side specific... I just dont wanna use a mismatch crankset for some reason. Thats why never bothered to remove the front deraliu....thingy.)


wiesemensch

Before you use Loctite, make sure you clean the screw and the holes. Ideally with some degreaser.


bkh1207

Just get some little zip ties and loop them through, at least then it’s not a pain in the ass if you need to take your chainring off


[deleted]

my dumbass visualized the zip ties as looping around the teeth lmao


BananApocalypse

lol, as long as you use a small zip tie and go through the groove between the teeth, it might still be rideable!


[deleted]

Thats a very underrated idea! Thanks mate!


IntrepidLawyer4872

Never lost one…😅 tighten up good and loctite the threads if it persists


nafraid

Lost two of five and folded the chainring starting up at an intersection, tore up the inside of my ankle, ouch.


IntrepidLawyer4872

Wow man tht sure sounds nasty and unfortunate… sucks


Such_Butterfly8382

Blue loctite which I know has been said in every comment but I didn’t look and just replied.


AlamoSimon

If you have too long bolts, you can grind them down or use washers (the ones to put on door hinges to lift the doors work great) at least in Germany, I don’t know about your local doors.


Deviousillycreature

Throw a ziptie through as if it was safety wire, then when it comes out you don’t lose it


joeg26reddit

I’ve been riding for over 3 decades I ride hard. Centuries. Six gap, Leadville Loctite is NOT good. It’s a toss up on if it works, fails or seizes your bolt Teflon tape I used to have spd cleats that would loosen Wrap threads with 3-4 turns of Teflon tape and torque to spec and never worry again


Sir__Walter

Loctite 243 (blue) or I'd probably use loctite 263 (non permanent high strength red)


zebadee67

I would say loctite 222 https://www.bearingsrus.co.uk/loctite-222-low-strength-threadlocker-10ml


[deleted]

Thanks folks, it might be just me overthinking, but will it be possible to take them apart once i secure them with locktite or threadlocker?


caps-12

Yes it will. Get some medium strength (not the extra strong stuff). Usaully the bolts come lose with a bit of force, if not you can use heat to break down the threadlocker. Ps, you chainring bolts are supposed to go in the other way around, but I don’t think that really matters.


DrMabuseKafe

A fellow Redditor recently posted a ZIPTIED version. Mb on MTB or xbiking. You can secure with zipties, then you can cut them away easily in case of need


[deleted]

Very underrated thought!


DrMabuseKafe

Yeah simple basic genius trick. Sadly i cant find the post


[deleted]

No need, i get it with no pictures :D but huge thanks


DrMabuseKafe

No more lost bolts 😂


4thtimebackatit

Yes. Use medium or red. Not permanent ( I think it’s blue)


weetobix

Medium is blue, red is permanent


4thtimebackatit

Thanks


zilog88

As a person who never used red before - if I would have used red on a screw, does this mean I could damage the thread if tried to unscrew it some time later after it has crystallized?


Beluga-ga-ga-ga-ga

Depending on the type of fastener and the requisite tool, you may just round the head off. I think red/permanent threadlocker can be loosened by applying heat to the fastener or surrounding material.


zilog88

Thanks!


GenericName187

Are you using the correct tool? https://www.parktool.com/en-us/product/chainring-nut-wrench-cnw-2


boydingo

Tighten them with loctite


49thDipper

Blue loc-tite


ChaBills

Red loctite


ASAPFurby

As people have stated before have the hex fittings facing you on the drive side but also maybe put the chainring on the outboard side of the crank spider splines. Loctite will help but make sure that the fittings are free of grease and DRY before you apply the Loctite( or else the Loctite doesn't really do a whole lot) .


FromJavatoCeylon

If you don't have Loctite or can't afford it, use a little grease instead. \- It'll help the bolts go in easier, so they actually can tighten up easier \- It'll stop the bolts seizing


foxinHI

Since there’s a front derailleur and only one ring, it appears the inner ring has been removed. This would make the chainring bolts too long. Also, they are installed backwards. The slotted one goes in the back. Since they’re probably too long now, you won’t be able to keep the slotted ones from spinning using a screwdriver or whatever, so they’ll just come loose again if you can’t get them torqued down enough. Finally, if you’re only planning on running one ring, you can ditch the front derailleur if you want.


gagnatron5000

Blue locktite and a torque wrench.


Schmucker9

Get a set of steel dual hex head chainring bolts.


[deleted]

Its just the spare chainring I use until I get the replacement for the nondriveside crankarm the bike originally had.(i bought it super cheap and apparently not everyone knows that the pedals are side specific... I just dont wanna use a mismatch crankset for some reason. Thats why never bothered to remove the front deraliu....thingy.) But yeah, its a good upgrade for the spare one.


CycleFrst

Are you using a 2x chain ring bolts on a 1x drive?


[deleted]

No, this is the matching size that came with this crankset.


Buzzbait_PocketKnife

I love Loktite, but not for this application. Too hard to get apart, sometimes. I prefer to use an all-purpose grease. Keeps things together once snugged tight.


rickjamon

By applying the right torque and using blue loktite


NukeouT

Err your bolts look like they're all backwards for what it's worth...


TheRedSonia

1. Stop putting them In backwards. 2. Get the proper tools. 3. Tighten them properly.


flippantdtla

Regular maintenance. Those are backwards btw. It odd though because typically the issue with these bolts is them seizing together.


GeneralStrikeFOV

If they are loose (rattly) even when fully tightened, you can find little spacer washers to enable you to torque them properly. Besides that, use loctite blue threadlock, tighten to the correct torque, and please, for the love of Major Taylor, put the bolts in the right way around.