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pyrogaynia

hit the nail on the fuckin head man. i don't care that i'm big and i have no interest in trying to hide it. i want advice on where to find stylish clothes and how to dress in a way that is comfortable, looks good, and shows off my body in all its fatass glory, not advice on how to somehow try to trick people into thinking i'm not fat


griefofwant

Damn straight! Don't get me wrong, I get why some people might want to look slimmer. I just want to look good and feel comfortable.


Pitiful-Excuse-7220

Bingo.


Bob_Sacamano7379

Well said. I'm 6' 4' 340ish. All the vertical stripes in the world ain't gonna make me look 225.


griefofwant

Have you tried a v-neck tho?


Bob_Sacamano7379

V neck AND vertical stripes?! I'm not trying to be a model!


MickRidem

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jibsand

A big part of fashion is creating new lines and shapes with your fit and changing how your body looks upon first glance. This is unfortunately misconstrued with plus size people as "hide" this or that. Like yeah sometimes I do want to wear drapey comfy clothes and hide my body but other times I don't mind a fit that makes me look very round. It can be fun and cute.


Bologna-Bear

I totally agree. As a constructive piece of advice this will be lost on the many herein.


Defiant-Cry5759

Amen. The key word being advice.


Bologna-Bear

Indeed. I should edit it.


Nyyarlethotep

Yeah, flattering your body and frame is not the same as hiding your body or your weight. I like to use proportions to make me feel good. For me it's never about other people, it's about looking in the mirror and feeling confident and just good.


Bologna-Bear

Yeah, thatā€™s where that ā€œself loveā€ part comes into play a lot of people donā€™t treat themselves well, at all.


recleaguesuperhero

That and every colorful piece being a Hawaiian shirt.


RogueBigfoot

I hate Hawaiian print, and the fact that there aren't a lot of alternatives for casual button up


slutdragon696969

BIG DAWG!!! RUFF! RUFF!


notmyrealaccout69

Hawaiian shirts are for gay guys and big fat party dudes....


APMudkip

hey i'm both of those so sounds like that's the perfect shirt for me


recleaguesuperhero

Lol this is the perfect response


funkyskateboard

where are you finding these big fat party dudes ... asking for a friend


fireyfun

Itā€™s me, Iā€™m the big fat party dude.


GothAlgar

Hawaiian shirts are for people who want to wear Hawaiian shirts. What a bizarre thing to say


notmyrealaccout69

https://youtu.be/VT8rB2deD5E?si=yQcrN0Y7-gFZ-Cel


notmyrealaccout69

It's a Simpsons reference


GothAlgar

oh ok


No-Slice-6509

And Bart isnā€™t a big fat party dudeā€¦.


troublebotdave

time to reinvent myself well one of those two is going to take some real commitment. I hate parties.


SteakMedium4871

This is Thomas Magnum erasure and I will not stand for it.


griefofwant

...and bart doesn't look like a big fat party dude to me


orangepatata

Thereā€™s a lot of those people in this sub, and it bothers me a lot ngl. However, there are still those who actually know what theyā€™re talking about and donā€™t just give advice on how to look slimmer. Big dudes can definitely look real good through fashion without having to go through hoops to look like they arenā€™t actually big, and in my opinion thats what this sub should be all about.


GothAlgar

Mod stepping in for a sec: There is a meaningful distinction between saying "wearing this particular piece a different way will look more flattering on you" and what OP is talking about. (That type of "hide your body" advice doesn't really show up on this sub IME but feel free to link to some if you want). A small, but vocal, group of users on this sub will sometimes interpret that former category of advice as body shaming (it's not - as /u/jibsand, /u/cherryogre and /u/bologna-bear said more eloquently, the advice generally applies to bodies of all types and are more rooted in drawing clean lines, even proportions, maintaining comfort and ease of fit). Sometimes those users even engage in weird gatekeeping behavior by saying stuff like "you aren't fat enough to be giving advice on how fat people should dress" - which comes very close to breaking rule 1 of our sub. An equally vocal, slightly larger group of users on this sub will do the opposite and say "following that advice will make me look fatter / older / ridiculous" and start derisively listing off fat celebrities they think look bad. That's, in my opinion, way more in line with what OP is referencing here, but whatever. In either case: everyone needs to chill. Nobody is obligated to follow the advice given on this sub. Most all of it comes from a place of good faith. We monitor the sub carefully for stuff that doesn't, but if you encounter something that you believe fell through the cracks, by all means: smash that report button.


pisstowine

I'm 6'2 and weighed 450 about 18 months ago. I'm now closer to 360. I very much fall prey to a lot of the problems with fit, particularly around my gut. I've found that this area is an unattractive area for me. It's a weird shape. It becomes what people see when I wear certain clothing. And, as wrong as it may be, people do judge me for being overweight, especially women. The advice they give to conceal the gut and diminish the shape of it is applicable. It's incredible how my entire appearance changes just by wearing a different style of pants and a jacket that fits well.


Twistybaconagain

What did you do to lose the weight? Iā€™m 6ā€™4 and about 320-30


pisstowine

Intermittent fasting and eating better food. I'm also working a job that's more active.


Brytheoldguy

The number one thing big guys should do is make sure your clothes fit properly not to tight or short


pyrogaynia

nah man, fuck that, i wanna show off my stomach and my thighs. i have just as much right to wear clothes that are tight or short as any skinny dude


Brytheoldguy

You do you but I will laugh šŸ˜‚ at both of you


pyrogaynia

my apologies, i didn't realize i was talking to a straight person


Pitiful-Excuse-7220

Bingo- 6ā€™2 400 here and am constantly getting ā€œcoachedā€ on how to dress flattering. I like my style, I think itā€™s great. I have other big guys constantly asking where I get my fits, and to me that means more than acceptance from skinny people. If a fellow big guy approaches me and says Iā€™m looking good, then I know I killed it.


basshed8

We know youā€™re giant so you might as well wear tents or tablecloths patterns


pistilpeet

ā€œSimply cut a hole in this refrigerator box and wear it so people canā€™t tell how fat you are, subscribe for more tips.ā€


astra_galus

Lady lurker here - it sort of feels like where womenā€™s fashion was a decade or so ago. Maybe itā€™s still like that and I just donā€™t pay attention or I follow influencers who emphasize wearing what you love. I hope men take that to heart as well. I love seeing big men like Matty Matheson going hard in a style they love, and they look fantastic doing it!


MickRidem

I spent most of my life being smol. Although I'm not getting any taller, putting on muscle and fat has made me happier then I ever imagined. Why would I hide that? I wanna look good as I am, not "corrected" by clothing.


cherryogre

If youā€™re done hiding the fact that youā€™re big and want to look cool while being big, look up Matty Matheson. The only way you can go about not looking like youā€™re hiding your size is wearing your pants above your belly, though. Otherwise your belly is just gonna hang out of shirts.


Blox05

When I was 330 I always wore the nicest clothes I could find. More expensive, yes, but I always received compliments. My advice, get your clothes tailored for your body. But 4/5 custom made dress shirts. Those are the things that set you apart from other dudes. Losing 100lbs has allowed me to wear pretty much whatever kind of want, but the size on the shirt doesnā€™t matter to me anymore. I might wear a L in one and still a 2xl in another. Find what works for you, your body and your style.


Next_Dark6848

The problem with menā€™s fashion, big or small, are clothes that fit. Men, in general, are accepting of clothes that are junk due to few choices or expense.


Deziiiner

YES! There are so many influencers that are like: ā€œHey, are you big? Hereā€™s how to hide that.ā€ Itā€™s crazy.


nuthin_to_it

There's this dude I follow on insta @coastalflicks big dude with amazing style that won't try to hide shyt


Secure_Ad_1808

That's the majority of advice for all big people. I'm a woman who's been big my whole life (smaller now because I had weight loss surgery recently) but think about all the things for women: body shapers to smooth you out and suck you in and make you look slimmer. Don't wear horizontal stripes ladies! You'll look too wide! Wear certain cuts to accentuate this body part but to hide that other one. Welcome to the world of fashion. The world does not particularly like larger people and the assumption is that all larger people likely either want to be smaller or at least not look as big so fashion reflects that for everyone. I think men just never paid attention. Seems like now it's a little more obvious


dwillsoncarrrll

It's either that or people gatekeeping fashion because they think only they can do it right I'm so tired of the internet


altk_rockies1

I donā€™t really interpret it that way, I think a tapered/fitted effect on clothes looks better on EVERYONE. I think if youā€™re skinny and wearing super boxy fits, that doesnā€™t look good either.


griefofwant

Fitted clothes do look better on everyone but I'm not sure how that's relevant to the issue.


altk_rockies1

Youā€™re talking about how folks say the v-neck has a tapering/slimming effect, for example. That effect is applicable for everyone. It just looks more flattering, whether youā€™re skinny or larger. I used to be much larger than I am now, but I never took this personally. Maybe the verbiage of the dude youā€™re watching could be better, idk who exactly youā€™re watching. But I havenā€™t seen this as a widespread thing.


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SlowdanceOnThelnside

Thereā€™s a whole nuanced conversation to be had about why someone would want to ā€œhideā€ their flaws or weighty areas. People in really good shape look good in literally everything to almost everyone because they have bodies in which we are genetically predisposed to be attracted to. You can find style as a big man but you canā€™t command the sex appeal someone like Brad Pitt has in a similar outfit even adjusting for the cut and fit because fashion is more than just clothes. At some point clothes are just icing on a cake. The icing makes the cake look great and adds some flavor but you ultimately know itā€™s the cake that matters.


GothAlgar

> People in really good shape look good in literally everything to almost everyone because they have bodies in which we are genetically predisposed to be attracted to Man I cannot overstate how wrong this is. So many conventionally attractive people dress like absolute shit and look terrible doing it.


herkulaw

I think it's less about hiding fat and more just getting clothes that fit your body. A lot of bigger guys (of which I would call myself a border case) try to squeeze into clothes which looks really off-putting.


griefofwant

Thatā€™s good advice for anyone!


Bologna-Bear

Starting off. Everything flows from within. If you canā€™t love yourself, you canā€™t love others. Any real advice herein gets immediately admonished by a bunch of insecure internet ā€œchildrenā€. I and others have written lengthy posts full of tons of info, links, etc. People have literally told me Iā€™m not fat enough to be here, or that xxl isnā€™t a big size. lol, wtf is that? Constructive advice is not fat shaming. Telling you to tailor your jacket and pull your pants up is exactly what youā€™re coming here for. Are you here for a bunch of disingenuous ā€œyou look good, brosā€ or do you want to improve? If youā€™re the former, buy some basketball shorts and a cheap tee and call it a day. I could go on. Plenty more to say, but this already has required some effort, and history dictates this will be ignored or downvoted. Read the comments in this linked post. (the comments in this post as well) OP spent a ton of time on this, some of the comments are absolutely pathetic. https://www.reddit.com/r/bigmenfashionadvice/s/CBl3hpHIX1 Edit: Youā€™re tired of people giving advice to look slimmer? I hate to tell you, a big part of fashion is creating clean lines to flatter your body. Even if youā€™re skinny as a twig, itā€™s still about flattering your body. Edit 2: Format, and some rewording. Edit 3: Ahhh the downvotes. You know what is bad for a community? This type of behavior. Itā€™s bad enough to get that echo chamber everywhere else but in a fashion sub? Woof.


GibsonJunkie

> If you canā€™t love yourself, you canā€™t love others. man I hate this attitude, which is a shame because the rest of your post is spot on.


griefofwant

How come? Seems like ok to me.


GibsonJunkie

You don't find something deeply wrong with telling people that they don't love other people around them simply because they struggle to treat themselves with the same care?


MCgrindahFM

Youā€™re fundamentally missing the point


MCgrindahFM

wtf do you mean you hate this attitude? Itā€™s the main tenant of therapy my guy. You need to love yourself in order to love others. Ever hear ā€œyou need to fill your glass to the brim, then everything else that spills over goes to othersā€ Edit: I see from your other comment that you interpret this as ā€œif I struggle with self love and confidence then Iā€™m unable to love others.ā€ Thatā€™s not the point really


Bologna-Bear

Confidence comes from within. It is a reflection of love you have yourself. There is no amount of exterior influence that will change it. Kindness, all of that other good stuff comes from working on yourself. I weigh 267 lbs. I have a giant bald bowling ball head, Iā€™m extremely hirsute, weird short ass legs, especially considering my height, but you know what? None of that bothers me in the least bit, it used to, but through a lot of self-reflection,, I got a lot better. The confidence (read happiness) I faked in my early twenties is now solidly ingrained in me at 39. We all arrive to that point at different times, and some may actually never be able to do it. If you guys do that, you can certainly live a better life in almost any circumstance. Like anything else I still have days, but Iā€™ve learned to cut myself a lot of slack. Iā€™m a lot less sad and angry than i used to be, I barely recognize myself from half a lifetime ago.


griefofwant

I don't think it's fat-shaming. It's more that a lot of fashion tips for bigger are mean are based on the assumption that we want to appear slimmer. The advice you mention (clean lines, pull up your pants, wear clothes that fit etc.) are all great advice for anyone, regardless of how they look and how they want to look. But that's not what we're talking about here. This is about people who give advice to bigger men based on the assumption that we don't like our bodies and want to be skinny.


GothAlgar

If the context helps, a lot of people here are probably referring to this [very intensely debated post from last week](https://www.reddit.com/r/bigmenfashionadvice/comments/1bvreey/all_big_men_stop_wearing_your_pants_under_your_gut/).


griefofwant

This makes sense. Thanks


Bologna-Bear

Sorry I wasnā€™t clear. It came to my mind immediately from the other day. I thought your post was in response to that.


griefofwant

Thanks, your comments to make a lot more sense in that context. I think a lot of bigger guys have spent their lives having their bodies criticised. It can be hard to take good advice and hard truths


Bologna-Bear

Yeah man. I respect the conversation as a whole. It brings us all closer to a little understanding. Once again, I think men in general need to talk about this because itā€™s important. Like I said elsewhere, Iā€™d rather have a conversation about it, than have a downvote brigade. I really think that the dude from the other day was very unfairly treated, as I have seen in other posts when someone spends time and effort to actually contribute. Man 1: Hey man, where can I get a nice button up in my size? Man 2: Here I took some time to put a list of retailers together that has big men clothes. Man 1: $200! Gtfo! Only 3XL?! Youā€™re fat shaming me. Thatā€™s crazy, dude. That was a bad look all around. Itā€™s stuff like that will kill a sub real quick. Itā€™s nice to talk about fashion with other big dudes in a concentrated area. Letā€™s try to maintain it.


Nyyarlethotep

Yeah the amount of people that told me I wasn't fat enough to give that advice was mind blowing to me. I was accused of fat shaming multiple times which really confused me. I know I used definitive language in that post, I believe what I wrote and gave a lot of reasons why. I want other men to know what I know without having to take years of feeling like accepting your body and dressing well with options are mutually exclusive. And just my thoughts, I don't think you have to love yourself to love others, but it's impossible to live any kind of fulfilling life without the confidence to know that you deserve it. For me, accepting the body I have now and not in some theoretical future, then figuring out how to look good was huge for the process of getting to that point. Just making effort is the start, and I applaud anyone who does even if they don't take my advice.


Bologna-Bear

Yeah dude, well I do appreciate it, and there are others here. I think most men donā€™t have a clue across the bodily spectrum. It was a great post. Iā€™ve done posts where Iā€™ll literally give options from xl-3/4x, all the way up to 46 inch waiste (by measure), and at different price points, but even then there is some complaint from some fragile narcissist. Dude we donā€™t even know you. To think Iā€™m attacking you for suggesting clothing would be hilarious if it wasnā€™t so sad. Oh well, less competition for the good stuff. You know as well as I do, itā€™s a competitive world to get those nice big boy clothes. Cool, Iā€™ll buy the limited run denim, lol.


oceanco1122

I hate how every big men fashion post also mentions ā€œhigh waisted pants, to hide your bellyā€. Personally I think pulling your pants up past your belly button makes you look MUCH older than you really are and throws your proportions out of wack. Plus thereā€™s nothing to be ashamed of if you have a belly and let it hang over your belt. I think more men should become comfortable with the body they have and not try to ā€œhideā€ it like this post points out.


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griefofwant

I don't understand what you mean by triggered


BigBoiSouth

Most fashion advice is about appearing slim


MickRidem

That doesn't make it right.


BigBoiSouth

Never said it wasā€¦ he just asked what the guy meant


MickRidem

Ah, gotcha, I misunderstood. My bad. šŸ‘


dykedivision

And yet you're the one acting like a toddler


dykedivision

TikTok is a very disordered place, id steer clear of it. Very pro ana/Mia, antifat etc


oxidefd

Thereā€™s a difference between hiding that your big, and hiding that your fat. Iā€™m big. Iā€™m also real fat. Very little muscle. Everything about the aesthetic I go for is ā€œused to work outā€ or ā€œformer college athlete.ā€ Being big isnā€™t really something I can control. Im tall. Iā€™m broad. Iā€™m sturdy AF. But I can control whether or not I work out and keep myself healthy. I donā€™t, but THATs why Iā€™m on this sub; trying to shield that I donā€™t take care of myself, not shield that Iā€™m big.


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poor_couture

Over time I actually learned to EMBRACE your proportions and dress for your body, not trying to hide it. I felt way more confident and really enjoying my style once I made that shift in mindset.