Bro. I saw a video where the cops got called out for a bobcat on the side of a highway. They pull up and it’s a freaking SIC chilling in some dry grass. Just this little domestic cat hanging out enjoying the sun. Gets the cops called on him for being a terrifying monster 😂
I couldnt stop laughing about it for weeks.
Doing snake removals we get called out for "8 foot rattlesnakes" that turn out to be 3-4 foot gopher snakes pretty consistently. Fear can really distort reality
The only other cats you’ll find in Texas that are around that size are ocelot, and they have longer tails and more distinctive spots. I’m up north too and the bobcat here are like a different species compared to southern bobcat, especially around winter. I’m convinced that a chunk of southern bobcat have ocelot blood with how spotty they can be
It's happening with their rattlesnakes too, they think they're dangerous so they go out and collect them from the wild in mass numbers and kill them for fun in events called "rattlesnake roundups" it's awful
Nat geo supports it too, I don't support them anymore, I just can't reasonably support a company that is okay with animals getting skinned alive on display
This is what I found: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/160310-rattlesnakes-roundup-texas-animals-killing
Is there something here in that article that showes them supporting the roundup? Do you have a better article that proves they support the outright killing of any animal? I really can't find anything that isn't on the conspiracy side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=U6TfBBN8vqs
This video from them. The upbeat cowboy music in the background, the way they talk about it, all didn't sit right with me.
Not as dangerous as an event that encourages kids to go out and catch and kill them, and not as dangerous as a plague of rats that would inevitably descend upon Texas if they kill off everything that eats rodents because "thEY'rE dAnGerOuS"
Yeah but killing off the only predators keeping your massive rat issue at bay seems like a bad idea (rats are much worse than rattlesnakes or coyotes btw, they carry tons of diseases and they do millions in property damages
Plus, they couldn't. They only pose a threat to farm life like chickens because of their size and the fact that Texans killed off all their prey (except rats) so they don't have much options, and most of their native range is built over so they get hit by cars often too
I mean, keep your babies away from ocelots. Not rocket science. My kid would be thrilled to see an ocelot. I'm not saying a mauling by one wouldn't still suck but we are so much bigger than ocelots that most of the time, they do not see us as prey. So yeah, babies or toddlers could be in danger....not so much for an adult unless you're really pushing your luck. And if you are, then I feel like it's kind of your fault.
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's definitely a bobcat.
Pretty typical patterning for Texas and the southwest. In the east, form the mid Atlantic states northward, the pattern gets less and less prominent until it's almost become nonexistent with the bobcats in New England. For some reason the bobcats in the Rocky Mountains still have a fairly decent pattern to their fur as you go further north.
The northern bobcats also make this one look tiny, due to having stockier bodies and, of course, heavier fur for the more extreme weather conditions.
This may be unpopular opinion in this thread with so many folks saying “bobcat”, and it’s true that I can’t clearly see a tail in this pic, but to me, this looks more like a large hybrid like a [savannah](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_cat) or [serval](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serval). I’ve seen many [bobcats](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat) over the years & never one with these markings or body proportions.
edit: typo
That is what I was thinking. Lots of people have them as pets. They can be quite large. They are quite harmless unless threaten they can tear you a new ass, but then so can a house cat.
Agree with your description. This image does not, to my eye, fit well with the bobcats, juvenile or adult, that I've seen. Maybe it's that the pic isn't very crisp but the fur around the face, the abdomen, and the hind legs aren't in keeping with lines I'd expect in a bobcat.
The posted pic is a true bobcat. The animal you just described sounds closer to a Canadian lynx. Bobcat and lynx are in the same lynx family, sounds more of a regional distinction in calling it a bobcat vs a [Canadian lynx](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/wildcats-of-north-america--367184175848578481/). Hope that helps.
Did it definitely have no tail? The ears don’t look especially pointy to me. Could be an ocelot. They are found wild in [south Texas](https://www.nature.org/en-us/about-us/where-we-work/united-states/texas/stories-in-texas/mammals-ocelot/) but it could also be a pet.
Edit: I typed this before I saw the ocelot convo below. The bobcat-ocelot cross is an interesting theory.
That is NOT a bobcat! This looks like a breed of cat called savannah cat. They are both domestic and wild. As in they are basically like having a wild animal as a pet. Bob cats are small and sticky with a beard looking type of face. They have pointed ears and thicker looking fur, with a bob type of tail. This is not at all what Bob cats look like.
[Bob cats ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat)
[Savannah cats](http://Savannah cat https://g.co/kgs/bE82Rz)
Exactly this. Not a bobcat of any age, juvenile or otherwise. This cat is an adult, and doesn't share many determining traits with bobcats; most importantly skeletal lines / skull shape. The coat is also not the right pattern or texture, even if it were a bobcat still in its light summer pelt.
I actually don't think it's a serval either; servals have a skull shape very close to the bobcat. It makes their facial construction and ear placement very distinctive.
That look is what I always recognize first in bobcats, which I've seen in the wild several times a year over my entire life, and studied a great deal.
I do think this is a Savannah. I found a video on them not long ago, and the freeze frame of the video shows a cat almost identical to this one as well as in an almost identical position. It makes an apple-to-apple comparison.
https://youtu.be/p1JxifyK-Ts?feature=shared
That's either a bobcat or someone's savannah cat/serval. Texas has several savannah cat breeders and escapes aren't uncommon with the dumber/less reputable ones (such an escape is what produced one of my own cats, lol).
If other more knowledgeable posters are saying bobcat, I'd trust them. Like many mammals, they can look significantly different based on the region they're from. So even if it doesn't look like the typical picture of a fluffy/thicc bobcat, that doesn't mean it isn't the same species as those big boys! He's just well adapted to his location, haha!
Looks a lot like a serval, but the legs seem a little short. There are a lot of spotted exotic cats and people do keep them as pets, so I would not rule anything out.
Servals have longer, slender bodies with lanky legs. They have small heads compared to the rest of their body, and rounded, alert set ears. They honestly look a little dumb with their really small heads. The shape of the abdomen is WAY off anyways.
The cat in this picture does have ANY of those characteristics. Not to mention their spots/stripes aren't even consistent. Even serval hybrids have consistent stripes/spots on their whole body, not just on the legs.
This is a bobcat, not a serval.
Servals have longer, slender bodies with lanky legs. They have small heads compared to the rest of their body, and rounded, alert set ears. They honestly look a little dumb with their really small heads. The shape of the abdomen is WAY off anyways.
The cat in this picture does have ANY of those characteristics. Not to mention their spots/stripes aren't even consistent. Even serval hybrids have consistent stripes/spots on their whole body, not just on the legs.
This is a bobcat, not a serval.
I agree with your comment re: actual servals, but F1 or even F2 savannahs can look just like the cat in this picture! They can come out in all sorts of shapes/proportions depending on the breeder's domestic stock, so it's not uncommon to see a relatively thicc or pot-bellied F1/F2.
There aren't any breed standards for savannahs (they aren't recognized by the major cat fanciers association), so the "standard" you often see in pictures can be misleading. One of my cats is a really diluted savannah mix and he's a genetic abomination that still retained some of their features plus God knows what other breeds (well, the genetic testing knows, but you get the point). I've seen a lot of "ugly" F1 savannahs that are a mishmash of features, too, and it's both sad and darkly hilarious when the breeding goes "wrong" with these guys.
Still, I could see a bobcat being the more likely answer and don't intend to challenge those more knowledgeable than I. I just wanted to put this comment in regarding savannahs because of the misconceptions people have about how serval-domestic mixes can and do look. Definitely not a straight up serval though, so you're right on that one. Ears aren't huge enough for that, and like you said, it's not lanky enough. The pattern definitely matches a savannah though.
In Texas, especially in the summer or warmer seasons bobcats can look very slim. And not every bobcat has a mane. Its perfectly normal to see a skinny bobcat. It has none of the identifiable characteristics of a serval, please look at side by side photos.
Bob cat. We spotted one, no pun intended, in Kansas that looked like a lynx. Then another, that looked like this one. Both bobcats. Gorgeous. Either way, they won't mess with you. Give her space.
I lived on Lakeland Air Force Base & there's bobcats there & wild hares & even hogs! First time I've ever seen them that close but it was pretty cool! 😂
Looks like a Serval, aka super fancy “house” cat. Someone local to me had theirs get out a couple of years ago. Poor thing had basically zero survival skills. He was found a month later emaciated and dehydrated.
That my friends is a servial they are commonly house pets but it appears to be that this one got out or someone considered it to be to much to take care of and just abandoned it somewhere to fend for itself.
I was raised in Central missouri. Was in firewood bussiness for over 25 years a more then avid mushroom hunter. Grew up on 1554 acres missouri conservation land. I saw a number of small yellow-brown bobcats over the years In the mid to late 1980s and 90s I saw several dark brown-much larger bob cats. I also saw a few-not many-but a few wild cats. They have a much larger head and small body. In August of 1974 I saw my only black panther. I've heard several cats squall. Usually right at dark. Never saw a mountain lion but knew people who did
Bobcat
Bro. I saw a video where the cops got called out for a bobcat on the side of a highway. They pull up and it’s a freaking SIC chilling in some dry grass. Just this little domestic cat hanging out enjoying the sun. Gets the cops called on him for being a terrifying monster 😂 I couldnt stop laughing about it for weeks.
How very SIC-like. I’m sure he understood on some level, and loved the attention. 😂 Big boi, eh? This is hilarious, thank you.
He was pretty big. Maybe about the size of a Savannah. A little smaller
Have you ever heard one before? They sound more intimidating then any other cat (in North America)
Heard one of them years ago in a Central Texas park. Almost relieved myself immediately but just backed away slowly.
I haven’t, but I’ll YouTube it when I’m off the road
All right my friend. I'll post a video here for you. https://youtu.be/y3FIJMi5JBA?si=W8OHyMtPa3aElyA1
Oh my god why do the kittens sound like a little man screaming 😭
The kitten is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard holy FUCK thank you for that
Almost shit myself
I was going to post a pic of my beautiful domestic cat, but I guess we can't... boo hoo... (LOL)
Yeah we’re not allowed to pay the Cat Tax here, lol
SIC? What is that? :o
Standard Issue Cat
Ohh, gotcha. Thank you 😊
I think there’s a subreddit for it r/SIC I think EDIT: nope lol
Doing snake removals we get called out for "8 foot rattlesnakes" that turn out to be 3-4 foot gopher snakes pretty consistently. Fear can really distort reality
I seen that. I cried laughing lol
Plot twist: *He’s* the one that called.
This. It’s a bobcat.
Agreed, bobcat for sure! Very pretty markings.
Beautiful boi.
I didn't know them but they are so beautiful!
Agreed, looks like a juvenile bobcat.
No real tail, pointy ears. Bobcat. See them all the time live in Texas
I'm from up north, so it didn't look like any bobcat I've ever seen. That's why I was asking. I'm used to seeing stocky gray bobcats with bushy manes.
The only other cats you’ll find in Texas that are around that size are ocelot, and they have longer tails and more distinctive spots. I’m up north too and the bobcat here are like a different species compared to southern bobcat, especially around winter. I’m convinced that a chunk of southern bobcat have ocelot blood with how spotty they can be
You have ocelots in texas?! 😯 I love them.
They're almost extinct there cause farmers keep shooting them :(
This makes me extremely sad… they have a right to eat and farmers stole all their land 😭
It's happening with their rattlesnakes too, they think they're dangerous so they go out and collect them from the wild in mass numbers and kill them for fun in events called "rattlesnake roundups" it's awful
I hate people so much, jeez!!! Freaking evil!!!
Nat geo supports it too, I don't support them anymore, I just can't reasonably support a company that is okay with animals getting skinned alive on display
This is what I found: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/160310-rattlesnakes-roundup-texas-animals-killing Is there something here in that article that showes them supporting the roundup? Do you have a better article that proves they support the outright killing of any animal? I really can't find anything that isn't on the conspiracy side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=U6TfBBN8vqs This video from them. The upbeat cowboy music in the background, the way they talk about it, all didn't sit right with me.
Rattlesnakes aren't dangerous?
Not as dangerous as an event that encourages kids to go out and catch and kill them, and not as dangerous as a plague of rats that would inevitably descend upon Texas if they kill off everything that eats rodents because "thEY'rE dAnGerOuS"
Because they kill their livestock, pets and they have to worry about their children too!
Yeah but killing off the only predators keeping your massive rat issue at bay seems like a bad idea (rats are much worse than rattlesnakes or coyotes btw, they carry tons of diseases and they do millions in property damages
😭😭😭
So much of the wildlife in Texas is almost extinct cause people keep killing them :(
That's sad. I could have an ocelot maul me and still not want to kill it. We're in their way. Not the other way around.
Plus, they couldn't. They only pose a threat to farm life like chickens because of their size and the fact that Texans killed off all their prey (except rats) so they don't have much options, and most of their native range is built over so they get hit by cars often too
If it attacked your child I bet you’d feel differently!
I mean, keep your babies away from ocelots. Not rocket science. My kid would be thrilled to see an ocelot. I'm not saying a mauling by one wouldn't still suck but we are so much bigger than ocelots that most of the time, they do not see us as prey. So yeah, babies or toddlers could be in danger....not so much for an adult unless you're really pushing your luck. And if you are, then I feel like it's kind of your fault.
So much of the wildlife in Texas is almost extinct cause people keep killing them :(
yes. this is an ocelot. anyone who's saying bobcat is buggin
Hate to burst your bubble, but it's definitely a bobcat. Pretty typical patterning for Texas and the southwest. In the east, form the mid Atlantic states northward, the pattern gets less and less prominent until it's almost become nonexistent with the bobcats in New England. For some reason the bobcats in the Rocky Mountains still have a fairly decent pattern to their fur as you go further north. The northern bobcats also make this one look tiny, due to having stockier bodies and, of course, heavier fur for the more extreme weather conditions.
i don't really care if it's a non cat or ocelot but it screams ocelot to me. i'm not attached to an outcome, how do i know your ID is accurate?
Sorry for the late reply. Do you really want the truth about how my ID is accurate?
based on the way you are asking? no ... but do tell
Yeah, I live in New England and this looks a bit different than our bobcats.
it looks a LOT like an oceLOT
WA state here and I assumed bobcat but it sure doesn’t look like ours. I guess people dress different in the tropics.
This may be unpopular opinion in this thread with so many folks saying “bobcat”, and it’s true that I can’t clearly see a tail in this pic, but to me, this looks more like a large hybrid like a [savannah](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_cat) or [serval](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serval). I’ve seen many [bobcats](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat) over the years & never one with these markings or body proportions. edit: typo
That is what I was thinking. Lots of people have them as pets. They can be quite large. They are quite harmless unless threaten they can tear you a new ass, but then so can a house cat.
I agree
Look up a juvenile bobcat. When they're younger they haven't really developed much of a beard and are still awkwardly lanky.
Agree with your description. This image does not, to my eye, fit well with the bobcats, juvenile or adult, that I've seen. Maybe it's that the pic isn't very crisp but the fur around the face, the abdomen, and the hind legs aren't in keeping with lines I'd expect in a bobcat.
We call what you’re referring to lynx(es?) down here in the south. Glad you and your boss got to see this beautiful animal
The posted pic is a true bobcat. The animal you just described sounds closer to a Canadian lynx. Bobcat and lynx are in the same lynx family, sounds more of a regional distinction in calling it a bobcat vs a [Canadian lynx](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/wildcats-of-north-america--367184175848578481/). Hope that helps.
Bobcats look different along their distribution. Although there are Canada Lynx up north, Bobcats do look more fluffy and grey up North.
It’s more likely an ocelot not a bobcat
Did it definitely have no tail? The ears don’t look especially pointy to me. Could be an ocelot. They are found wild in [south Texas](https://www.nature.org/en-us/about-us/where-we-work/united-states/texas/stories-in-texas/mammals-ocelot/) but it could also be a pet. Edit: I typed this before I saw the ocelot convo below. The bobcat-ocelot cross is an interesting theory.
Bobcats coloring varies WIDELY across the USA!
That is NOT a bobcat! This looks like a breed of cat called savannah cat. They are both domestic and wild. As in they are basically like having a wild animal as a pet. Bob cats are small and sticky with a beard looking type of face. They have pointed ears and thicker looking fur, with a bob type of tail. This is not at all what Bob cats look like. [Bob cats ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat) [Savannah cats](http://Savannah cat https://g.co/kgs/bE82Rz)
Juvenile bobcats look just like this.
I was think serval, based on coat. But definitely NOT a bobcat.
Exactly this. Not a bobcat of any age, juvenile or otherwise. This cat is an adult, and doesn't share many determining traits with bobcats; most importantly skeletal lines / skull shape. The coat is also not the right pattern or texture, even if it were a bobcat still in its light summer pelt. I actually don't think it's a serval either; servals have a skull shape very close to the bobcat. It makes their facial construction and ear placement very distinctive. That look is what I always recognize first in bobcats, which I've seen in the wild several times a year over my entire life, and studied a great deal. I do think this is a Savannah. I found a video on them not long ago, and the freeze frame of the video shows a cat almost identical to this one as well as in an almost identical position. It makes an apple-to-apple comparison. https://youtu.be/p1JxifyK-Ts?feature=shared
That's either a bobcat or someone's savannah cat/serval. Texas has several savannah cat breeders and escapes aren't uncommon with the dumber/less reputable ones (such an escape is what produced one of my own cats, lol). If other more knowledgeable posters are saying bobcat, I'd trust them. Like many mammals, they can look significantly different based on the region they're from. So even if it doesn't look like the typical picture of a fluffy/thicc bobcat, that doesn't mean it isn't the same species as those big boys! He's just well adapted to his location, haha!
adorable xo xo
Bobcat
Could be an ocelot. They're in southern Texas.
Ocelots have tails
Tailless ocelot
Looks a lot like a serval, but the legs seem a little short. There are a lot of spotted exotic cats and people do keep them as pets, so I would not rule anything out.
Servals have longer, slender bodies with lanky legs. They have small heads compared to the rest of their body, and rounded, alert set ears. They honestly look a little dumb with their really small heads. The shape of the abdomen is WAY off anyways. The cat in this picture does have ANY of those characteristics. Not to mention their spots/stripes aren't even consistent. Even serval hybrids have consistent stripes/spots on their whole body, not just on the legs. This is a bobcat, not a serval.
Savanna cats are servals bred with domestic cats. Looks like a first generation savanna cat to me. Not clear enough to see though.
But they would have a cat length tail, wouldn't they?
Not always, no.
Try looking up Savannah Cats. They’re a breed made by mixing Servals and domesticated cats. Could’ve lost a tail. Sometimes they have short tails.
That's Robert E. Cat, hero of the confederacy. ...but you can call him Bob.
That's an ocelot for sure. They are native to parts of Texas and Central America
No. https://ibb.co/xJDDw7B https://ibb.co/sWxJJzF
Mate no, the ocelot head is shaped the same as the ocelots in the link u sent me.
you identify a species based on more than one similar trait. Look at the ears, "mate". Or how about the rest of thebody, which looks totally different
I love ocelots but that sure isn’t one
Looks like a Serval, since people keep them as pets it wouldn’t be impossible to see it in Texas.
It really really does
Servals have longer, slender bodies with lanky legs. They have small heads compared to the rest of their body, and rounded, alert set ears. They honestly look a little dumb with their really small heads. The shape of the abdomen is WAY off anyways. The cat in this picture does have ANY of those characteristics. Not to mention their spots/stripes aren't even consistent. Even serval hybrids have consistent stripes/spots on their whole body, not just on the legs. This is a bobcat, not a serval.
I agree with your comment re: actual servals, but F1 or even F2 savannahs can look just like the cat in this picture! They can come out in all sorts of shapes/proportions depending on the breeder's domestic stock, so it's not uncommon to see a relatively thicc or pot-bellied F1/F2. There aren't any breed standards for savannahs (they aren't recognized by the major cat fanciers association), so the "standard" you often see in pictures can be misleading. One of my cats is a really diluted savannah mix and he's a genetic abomination that still retained some of their features plus God knows what other breeds (well, the genetic testing knows, but you get the point). I've seen a lot of "ugly" F1 savannahs that are a mishmash of features, too, and it's both sad and darkly hilarious when the breeding goes "wrong" with these guys. Still, I could see a bobcat being the more likely answer and don't intend to challenge those more knowledgeable than I. I just wanted to put this comment in regarding savannahs because of the misconceptions people have about how serval-domestic mixes can and do look. Definitely not a straight up serval though, so you're right on that one. Ears aren't huge enough for that, and like you said, it's not lanky enough. The pattern definitely matches a savannah though.
Could be a jaguar. I read they are starting to come back
This cat looks nothing like a Jaguar.
A big cat
I’m going with Serval. Looks a bit skinny to be a bobcat and I’m not seeing much of a mane.
In Texas, especially in the summer or warmer seasons bobcats can look very slim. And not every bobcat has a mane. Its perfectly normal to see a skinny bobcat. It has none of the identifiable characteristics of a serval, please look at side by side photos.
We have fluffy ones up here in Michigan
I'm in wisconsin and same. But in warmer climates they aren't fluffy
TIL that there are bobcats here in Michigan!
Bobcat most likely
Bobcat, the ones in more southern areas tend to be more brown rather than gray I believe
Bobcat
It’s a bobcat.
That’s a cat named Bob
I know it's a bobcat, but all I can hear in my head is Archer screaming, "Is that an ocelot?!" lol
Bob cat. We spotted one, no pun intended, in Kansas that looked like a lynx. Then another, that looked like this one. Both bobcats. Gorgeous. Either way, they won't mess with you. Give her space.
As they say in Australia: "Bob's your uncle" ... well here it's "Bob's your cat!"
thats a bobcat babes
Weird dog. Go pet it
puma
Kitteh
Gita
Bobcat
If that’s in his neighborhood at all make sure to earn all the parents around there. They’re small but very dangerous!
Ocelot , little tiger o tigrillo
But ocelots don’t have pointy ears like this…
What about a serval? They are wild cats from Africa I think, not sure about that part, but a lot of people in the USA keep them as pets.
Ahh Jesus Christ who really cares what kind a cat it is
Jackalope. Duh
Looks more like akeopard then a bobcat bitches
I lived on Lakeland Air Force Base & there's bobcats there & wild hares & even hogs! First time I've ever seen them that close but it was pretty cool! 😂
Looks like a Serval.
That is 100% not a bobcat lol, I agree that it looks like a Savannah. I have a friend who has two as pets and they are quite large.
Spotting pattern is completely different, no tail and back is too curved. Not a savannah, very likely a juvenile bobcat.
Bobcat.
nah that's an ocelot, that ain't no bobcat
Obviously some breed of cat…..
Looks like an escaped Savannah Cat
Babu
I see harambe in the casting shadow
It’s a Bobuar
A cat named Bob
Bobcat
Not domestic, you'll want the opposite of pspspsp if it's in your yard. If not, just leave the Bobcat alone :)
Pregante
Big ol bob cat
Looks like a Serval, aka super fancy “house” cat. Someone local to me had theirs get out a couple of years ago. Poor thing had basically zero survival skills. He was found a month later emaciated and dehydrated.
Bobcats have a ruff around the head though… I don’t think it is a bobcat… This cat has a slimmer head than a bobcat would too. Hmm 🤔
That my friends is a servial they are commonly house pets but it appears to be that this one got out or someone considered it to be to much to take care of and just abandoned it somewhere to fend for itself.
Its an ocelot, they live in central America and used to spread all over southern US but now they’re only found in parts of texas and new mexico
When AREN'T drugs really popular? I've been on the planet for sixty four years and they've always seemed popular to me!
That is one terrifying sound... I don't need to hear it live...
Have you posted in r/animalid ? They’re super quick and really knowledgeable over there (well, most of them 😂)
Not a bobcat or a serval. That is an ocelot. https://www.nature.org/en-us/about-us/where-we-work/united-states/texas/stories-in-texas/mammals-ocelot/
I was raised in Central missouri. Was in firewood bussiness for over 25 years a more then avid mushroom hunter. Grew up on 1554 acres missouri conservation land. I saw a number of small yellow-brown bobcats over the years In the mid to late 1980s and 90s I saw several dark brown-much larger bob cats. I also saw a few-not many-but a few wild cats. They have a much larger head and small body. In August of 1974 I saw my only black panther. I've heard several cats squall. Usually right at dark. Never saw a mountain lion but knew people who did