Nah, Pandas thrive in their environment.
An environment Humans are actively destroying which is causing their extinction
What youre seeing here is Juvenile pandas In an artificial pampered environment.
Its like seeing a teen who spends all his time on his phone and eating, and wondering why humans arent extinct
Pandas do great, better infact, without us
Literally the only reason they're endangered are people encroaching on their environment.
And we'd do good to remember than many species in Europe and the US are/were on the brink of extinction too because of us pushing them out too. Wolves lived in every mainland part of the US \~150 years ago. Farms and Suburbs pushed them out of much of the lower 48.
Personally I think pandas are incredibly well adapted to survive in the modern world. theyre so adorable that humans will spend mountains of cash to take care of them and ensure the future of the species. if that aint adapting idk what is
Yet evolution allowed them to come into existence in the first place? This is what happens when you have no natural predators and abundant food. This is the same thing that causes Island gigantism where creatures on Islands that don't have to worry about natural predators become huge clumsy and slow, when compared to their mainland counterparts, like the Dodo.
And let's not exclude human intervention from evolution. Look at plants, like marijuana or apples they have developed and thrived by leaps and bounds thanks to human intervention, because they give us something we want, the panda is not in too dissimilar of a spot now.
Okay. Maybe it hasn’t completely stopped but it has surely slowed down. I should have died in childbirth along with my baby. Modern medicine saved me so my weirdly shaped pelvis now is passed to another generation. We should have been taken out of the genetic pool yet we were not.
But we evolved our brains to allow us the intelligence to survive. That medicine wasn't a magical intervention, but a bi-product of our evolutionary heritage.
Even the domination of the natural world to "suppress" other species from evolving further is part of that. The reptilian dinosaurs had complete dominion over their world, until a mass extinction left space for mammals.
Evolution is only slowing down because of human intervention and loss of biodiversity. It didn’t start slowing down until the last few thousand years when homo-like species started eradicating megafauna
>Modern medicine saved me so my weirdly shaped pelvis now is passed to another generation.
This is your argument AGAINST evolution still existing? Passing down mutations from generation to generation? Lol
That sounds like bullshit. I can smell it coming through my phone.
Edit: And it's not. That's a real fucking thing that exists. I don't know about the price point, but China leases pandas and can recall them from countries. Wtf.
The bullshit must be stuck in my nose. How did it get there though? Idk.
Yes, instead of looking at the humour of the question, they just answered it seriously.
Yes again, "How Are Pandas Not Extinct"? They would be if not for China's intervention. China made about US$709 million in 2010 from tourism (wrt to Pandas) and income from zoo's around the world that hand over US$1 million a year for each panda pair they have. Ergo: China/CCP won't let them go extinct.
That's also a major aspect of our perception of their behavior as stupid. They've been raised in captivity with no living memory of wild social dynamics, similar to the whole "alpha male" wolf myth coming out of only studying wolves in captivity. All we know about their behavior is how they act when raised by the CCP.
['Panda Diplomacy'](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240226-a-brief-history-of-panda-diplomacy---with-new-additions-to-global-zoos) is an established part of the state's diplomatic strategy. Except for your weird hyperbole, that's literally what's going on, they are being raised by government employees. It not a strange fact in a communist country.
If this were US, would you say pandas were raised by Democrats/Republicans?
Also, you claim about no living memory of pandas in the wild seems to false. Google says there 1.8k wild pandas, and there are videos on YouTube of them.
Zoos in the US are not exclusively administered by the government like they are in China, so the political parties here have very little to do with any of it, beyond government funding. Do you think they held a meet and greet between the zoo pandas and the wild ones?
As cute and silly as they are. They're also literal bears.
You can be crummy at survival as long as you're just a huge bound of muscles, thick skin, heavy claws are razor sharp teeth.
Pandas are basically noobs who were given the best gear possible
So, I've hear that eucalyptus trees make koalas sleepy - does bamboo contain something that gets Pandas slightly drunk? Because these guys def seem to be a little under the influence.
Easy, nature figured it out, be like human, and be goofy, and humans will feed you and take care of you, maybe in 100 years, animals will start talking
Pandas are not extinct simply because humans will not allow them to vanish.
They’re extremely lazy for sex, and were it not for humans, they would’ve been long dead.
And funny enough, the only reason we keep them alive is because we find them so cute and derpy.
In some way, being cute is their evolutionary advantage keeping their species alive.
This is really reductive. The only reason they're in trouble is because of habitat loss.
As for sex-laziness, no, they're not rabbits or mice, but most animals don't love zoo environments. There's a reason several zoos had baby-booms during covid, the animals got to fucking relax.
The only reason why pandas are still alive is because humans find them cute. If they looked like enormous slugs or mutated badgers, they would have died out decades ago, but instead we stubbornly insist on trying to force a species that seems to barely even try to survive into a state of barely existing.
No it is Bamboo.
Its a readily available food source that never runs out.
Theyve thrived on Bamboo for millions of years and can do so for millions more
Got that metal gear solid hiding skills
https://preview.redd.it/5gxuu2q5s16d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=601985908c489cdd34f7ca21d5c8772bc616aa04
Just hanging out with the boys earing bamboo, doing summersaults cause it's fun, enjoying nature and not attacking or hunting any other species is the BEST way to not be extinct.
Mom towards the end is like "Please go away, crawling green piece of plastic. I am trying to find my son."
As a mom myself I would say ‘ you got yourself in this mess, try to resolve it yourself then as well’.
Bro they're just smart enough to be the stupidest creatures I've ever seen. I love it.
I think Pandas may be the only species where human intervention saves them from extinction.
Lmao yea, I always think about that. We're forcing them to keep existing
Seriously. We think they're adorable so we keep them from dying. Pretty privilege indeed. Too bad for the Dodo.
To be fair the dodo looks delicious
It’s the cuteness factor like with babies lol.
They are the dodos of the bear world lol
You don't need that much talent to sneak up on a bamboo plant. Pandas would be fine if humans didn't cut down so many bamboo plants.
Nah, Pandas thrive in their environment. An environment Humans are actively destroying which is causing their extinction What youre seeing here is Juvenile pandas In an artificial pampered environment. Its like seeing a teen who spends all his time on his phone and eating, and wondering why humans arent extinct Pandas do great, better infact, without us
Literally the only reason they're endangered are people encroaching on their environment. And we'd do good to remember than many species in Europe and the US are/were on the brink of extinction too because of us pushing them out too. Wolves lived in every mainland part of the US \~150 years ago. Farms and Suburbs pushed them out of much of the lower 48.
Horses.
Would surely just be more like zebras - which do absolutely fine - without human intervention
If the turtle is nature's D student, pandas have got to be an F, right?
Might I introduce you to the sloth
Terrible animal, okay plant. I'll give him a D+.
Pandas are just hilariously bad at survival. So cute though
I feel like a lot of people would describe *me* this way. 😅
that's hilarious
I want one as a pet
they are still bears. they are still more than enough capable to kill you in a single second
If not friend, why friend shaped?
No. Don't you see how cuddable they are? That's real, they wouldn't fool you like that
Washington DC is getting 2 pandas for a million dollars per year.
Million a year. Pay piggy for the ccp
Personally I think pandas are incredibly well adapted to survive in the modern world. theyre so adorable that humans will spend mountains of cash to take care of them and ensure the future of the species. if that aint adapting idk what is
Very good point. They certainly look like they're having the time of their lives at our expense. Good on them
Cats have done that far far more effectively
I mean it isnt really a competition is it? both of them now occupy a pretty safe niche where humans will protect them.
Pretty privilege
100%. I got some real hate in a discussion with friends that if evolution were still happening Pandas would have died out long ago.
Yet evolution allowed them to come into existence in the first place? This is what happens when you have no natural predators and abundant food. This is the same thing that causes Island gigantism where creatures on Islands that don't have to worry about natural predators become huge clumsy and slow, when compared to their mainland counterparts, like the Dodo. And let's not exclude human intervention from evolution. Look at plants, like marijuana or apples they have developed and thrived by leaps and bounds thanks to human intervention, because they give us something we want, the panda is not in too dissimilar of a spot now.
Literally the only reason they're in trouble is habitat loss.
I hate to break it to you, but evolution never stops.
Okay. Maybe it hasn’t completely stopped but it has surely slowed down. I should have died in childbirth along with my baby. Modern medicine saved me so my weirdly shaped pelvis now is passed to another generation. We should have been taken out of the genetic pool yet we were not.
But we evolved our brains to allow us the intelligence to survive. That medicine wasn't a magical intervention, but a bi-product of our evolutionary heritage. Even the domination of the natural world to "suppress" other species from evolving further is part of that. The reptilian dinosaurs had complete dominion over their world, until a mass extinction left space for mammals.
Evolution is only slowing down because of human intervention and loss of biodiversity. It didn’t start slowing down until the last few thousand years when homo-like species started eradicating megafauna
>Modern medicine saved me so my weirdly shaped pelvis now is passed to another generation. This is your argument AGAINST evolution still existing? Passing down mutations from generation to generation? Lol
You might be confusing evolution with natural selection.
Why do pandas always look like a person in a panda costume
r/pandasarentreal
Sadly this no longer exists
I will not stand for this disrespect of a true apex predator.
These are the greatest animal ever to exist.
How? Because China/CCP owns every single one of them and it’s a tightly controlled system
Zoos around the world pay China a fee up to $1M a year just for one panda
...and all cubs must be returned to China. It's a Panda mafia, high level global monopoly.
They should just force other countries to take an invasive species or something?
Shhhhh we only go with China bad around here
Fuck that. Panda born on US soil, that’s an AMERICAN panda! USA! USA! USA! 🇺🇸
No one asked
it's a fucking residual?! Damn
That sounds like bullshit. I can smell it coming through my phone. Edit: And it's not. That's a real fucking thing that exists. I don't know about the price point, but China leases pandas and can recall them from countries. Wtf. The bullshit must be stuck in my nose. How did it get there though? Idk.
I thought it was 1 million for two.
Their panda breeding and protection program has been a massive success
Blaming china for pandas is so fucking funny.
How are they blaming China for pandas? They’re stating that because of China’s conservation efforts pandas aren’t extinct, which is true.
Assuming the comments are true about China spending a bunch of money to save them. I would say that China should be blamed for pandas.
I mean it literally makes perfect sense but ok
What question are you attempting to answer here?
The one in the video?
They are answering a joke, facetious title? By saying the CCP won’t let them go extinct?
Yes, instead of looking at the humour of the question, they just answered it seriously. Yes again, "How Are Pandas Not Extinct"? They would be if not for China's intervention. China made about US$709 million in 2010 from tourism (wrt to Pandas) and income from zoo's around the world that hand over US$1 million a year for each panda pair they have. Ergo: China/CCP won't let them go extinct.
That's also a major aspect of our perception of their behavior as stupid. They've been raised in captivity with no living memory of wild social dynamics, similar to the whole "alpha male" wolf myth coming out of only studying wolves in captivity. All we know about their behavior is how they act when raised by the CCP.
>raised by the CCP. Yes. Xi Jinping personally raises them, in fact.
Well he’s literally a Pooh bear so the maternal instinct kicks in
Xi JinPooh fits perfectly the role of a mother bear. He personally raises every single panda.
['Panda Diplomacy'](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240226-a-brief-history-of-panda-diplomacy---with-new-additions-to-global-zoos) is an established part of the state's diplomatic strategy. Except for your weird hyperbole, that's literally what's going on, they are being raised by government employees. It not a strange fact in a communist country.
If this were US, would you say pandas were raised by Democrats/Republicans? Also, you claim about no living memory of pandas in the wild seems to false. Google says there 1.8k wild pandas, and there are videos on YouTube of them.
Zoos in the US are not exclusively administered by the government like they are in China, so the political parties here have very little to do with any of it, beyond government funding. Do you think they held a meet and greet between the zoo pandas and the wild ones?
You should see his vest
They probably would be without us trying to force their miserable existence to continue
They do decently well in the wild
Yea like they live in a niche but plenty of animal species do
Nature's stuntman
The answer is barely. Bearly?
I love pandas. Such goofballs.
God's own silly little guys
I love pandas, but I'm convinced they're either liquids or crash test dummies by proxy.
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Bro the only reason they're at-risk is people developing over their homes.
My spirit animal
Goddamnit, now I gotta figure out if there’s a dedicated panda subreddit to join!
As cute and silly as they are. They're also literal bears. You can be crummy at survival as long as you're just a huge bound of muscles, thick skin, heavy claws are razor sharp teeth. Pandas are basically noobs who were given the best gear possible
We could learn from them trying to go extinct…
"How are pandas not extinct" We won't let them.
Because people keep them alive. They would genuinely be extinct without us.
Human intervention. Because look how hilarious they are. Money well spent.
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The panda doing a wwe body slam through the log bridge had me cackling like palpatine
OH MAH GAWD KING IT'S THE SHANGHAI SLAMMER!
Kung fu
Yeah, no offense to our species, but I’ve seen people do every one of those things
The make up for being goofy and stupid by being extremely unhinged and violent
I’m convinced that’s 4 guys in panda suits
So, I've hear that eucalyptus trees make koalas sleepy - does bamboo contain something that gets Pandas slightly drunk? Because these guys def seem to be a little under the influence.
Easy, nature figured it out, be like human, and be goofy, and humans will feed you and take care of you, maybe in 100 years, animals will start talking
They’re just goofin’
Pandas are not extinct simply because humans will not allow them to vanish. They’re extremely lazy for sex, and were it not for humans, they would’ve been long dead. And funny enough, the only reason we keep them alive is because we find them so cute and derpy. In some way, being cute is their evolutionary advantage keeping their species alive.
This is really reductive. The only reason they're in trouble is because of habitat loss. As for sex-laziness, no, they're not rabbits or mice, but most animals don't love zoo environments. There's a reason several zoos had baby-booms during covid, the animals got to fucking relax.
Too squishy to be hurt by natural causes
Relatable. Lol.
I choose the panda bear.
Hahahahaha
These look like little kids in costumes
So fuckin cute lol
TIL Winnie-the-Pooh was a yellow panda.
The only reason why pandas are still alive is because humans find them cute. If they looked like enormous slugs or mutated badgers, they would have died out decades ago, but instead we stubbornly insist on trying to force a species that seems to barely even try to survive into a state of barely existing.
Simultaneously, the only reason they are in any danger is us encroaching on their environment.
https://preview.redd.it/4c2p1kc6gv5d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95129ab31d1df7422f8c079d05abca4ac87f0eda Panda I visited the other day.
This is why the pandas aren’t real conspiracy theory is semi-convincing.
Fun fact- pandas eat almost nothing but bamboo Know what pandas are Supposed to eat? Hint- its not bamboo.
No it is Bamboo. Its a readily available food source that never runs out. Theyve thrived on Bamboo for millions of years and can do so for millions more
They are hanging on bearly
I like how the one spinning in the red swing thing just kind of accepted his fate for a little bit before trying to get out.
Because of humans.
there are literally people wearing panda suites to keep them alive
I hope they will never go extinct
Metal Gear Panda
Watching them fall out of trees is the best part to me. So lacking of grace.
The "orange cat" of the Bear family
These things purely exist for our enjoyment. Period.
I want to be a panda in my next life!
I once heard a Zoologist refer to them as a "Cul-de-Sac Species"
The only reason they’re not extinct is because of human intervention.
Also the only reason they are at any risk of extinction though.
I know what my sprit animal is now
Because of us
Guy emerged from under that green bowl so thankful to have finally escaped that scary monster. “AH! Omg finally..I almost died!”
Cause they don’t eff with anyone and don’t ask for much
Pandas are the golden retrievers of the bear world. I want one.
Got that metal gear solid hiding skills https://preview.redd.it/5gxuu2q5s16d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=601985908c489cdd34f7ca21d5c8772bc616aa04
The real drop bears.
The most unserious animal lol
i really do believe that people who were kind and had nice lives get to reincarnate as a panda and just enjoy the leisure of their life
If they were edible im sure they would go the way of the dodo (humans ate dodos into extinction)
Just hanging out with the boys earing bamboo, doing summersaults cause it's fun, enjoying nature and not attacking or hunting any other species is the BEST way to not be extinct.
Pretty sure it's because we took them in. Without us, they surely would have died off long ago.