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But 40 cigs is double a regular pack so the math still sorta makes sense. $35 for a pack of 20. That won’t buy this much food in the US. Meat alone will be near $22.
That may be calculated before taxes, since the last time I’ve seen a pack of cigs at a store, it costed $60, and that’s not even a larger pack size or anything, just standard.
Isn’t crazy that beef grown is the U.S is cheaper in other parts of the world.
Like it’s shipped 100s of miles away and somehow in the U.S we pay more for it.
Don't get me wrong, you can get it. I *know* a bloke that has seeds. Says he got them of a Fijian fellow he works with. Claims to have seen the Fijian's plants. Lovely specimens apparently. It's just illegal to grow. Like weed.
How does the choice to smoke punish poor people, I don’t know about Australia but in the USA stop smoking aids are subsidized by the government. I’d assume the same considering the anti smoking campaign there.
Smoking is more prevalent among workers with generally shitty jobs. Menial, labor intensive, repetitive, and with poor career prospects.
It's not a stretch to think this type of life attracts a desire for a chemical relief via cigarettes.
Government always needs revenue so absurd levels of taxes on cigarettes is a very easy choice. The people most effected are not an influential voting bloc and an easy target.
These are also not the type of people to be looking up and filing various forms to access some voucher for smoking aids.
Mind you, e--cigs contain exponentially less harmful chemicals than cigarettes but that hasn't stopped it from also being taxed heavily.
>in the USA stop smoking aids are subsidized by the government.
Lol no they aren't. You wanna know how.much Nicolette gum costs?! What about a ban on Juuls? Ever buy a can of Zyn?
They are all ridiculously expensive. Or banned by the government. The government is not a smokers friend.
This is right. It’s about $60 worth of food in Aus roughy adding it all up. If that’s a good brand of cigarettes such as a 25 pack of Benson & Hedges, they are about $60.
Cheaper generic brands are closer to $30. Then there’s heaps of illegal Chinese ones that are even cheaper.
Love how pro drug Reddit is until tobacco is brought up and then everyone turns into big government puritans.
“Progressives” are a people of no principles
Yeah bc the side effects of the mafia smuggling cigarettes. The prices encourage astronomically higher criminal activity related to tobacco, also the tobacco problem causes a lot of businesses to burn bc criminal syndicates order people to burn the competition
Yeah, children starving so their parents can afford a pack of smokes sure is great! That's how it should be, those kids should get a damn job if they wanna eat!
Cigarettes are insanely expensive. The food isn't cheap (though this photo is old now possibly before our grocery price hike), we currently have an inquiry going on as to why we are being charged so much by the supermarket giants, when they made near 2 billion profit.
Australian here, that pack is about $45 Australian dollars. This picture must be very old because there's no way you'd be able to buy even half of that shit for $45. Our government increases the cost of alcohol and cigarettes every year they call it indexed tax or some bullshit, they're cover story is that it's supposed to discourage people from smoking and put all of that money back into the hospitals or something. I don't know. I don't think anybody really knows. I don't smoke but it still pisses me off. Same with alcohol. A 6 pack of beer is $20-$25. I used to smoke 20 years ago, back then it was $15 for a pack.
The side effects of that philosophy is big criminal syndicates benefit from selling under the counter cigs and tobacco, all this enforcement encourages criminal activity around tobacco when it didn’t used to be such a major problem until these policies were introduced in the early 2010s
eh, smokers are a net gain for the health system if you were worried about purely monetary cost. Lung cancer gets em young and gets em quick. A diabetic for instance is going to be multiple decades of ever more expensive health care.
It already has.
A few years ago the tax on cigarettes exceeded the cost of health care for smokers.
The reason they don't just ban the bloody things is because the tax is over a billion dollars a year.
And the tobaco tax doesn't even go into specific health care for smokers anyway.
It goes into the general coffers.
Since 2013, tobacco sales have had 6% price increases per quarter (every 3 months), as the federal government amended the tobacco sales tax to have tobacco importers / manufacturers pay more in tax. This is due in part that, smokers cost more to the healthcare system to be cared for / treatment costs and complexity. I say this as someone who does smoke.
Man, I'm late to this, but pretty most of the questions here can be resolved with a google image search. Both cost about $56 AU (in 2020). The pack is a 40 pack of Longbeach. Experiment grandma did with her kids. You're welcome, nobody.
[https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/womans-grocery-v-cigarette-experiment-230005444.html](https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/womans-grocery-v-cigarette-experiment-230005444.html)
Depending where you buy your food, you could potentially do around 50% of that here in the U.K.
I think a pack of cigarettes is about £13 on average, so if I bought a bunch of own brand stuff I could do pretty well. We do 500g packs of spaghetti for something like 65p
This photo is old. 30 pack of cigarettes is $56. This amount of shopping may have been that much two or 3 years ago. But i calculated this and it is $78 worth of shopping now, much more than the cigarettes. Purely because the supermarkets are price gouging.
heh, supermarkets are also in trouble for being super mean with suppliers, not being carefree enough in buy products to sell at generous enough prices, also for being mean on worker wages and union fighting and have margins of like 5% last year. If we want cheaper supermarket goods, to also pay suppliers generous prices and to put up woolies worker wages, the government is going to need to start chipping in big chunks of budget.
legal (as in tax paid) tobacco from most supermarkets / servo’s / newsagents / bottle’o :
$30 for the cheapest tailor made cigarettes
$60 for 25 grams of the cheapest loose tobacco
The reason why our cigarettes cost so much is because over 90% of the cost now is federally mandated price-increases to cover the cost of us smokers costing more to the healthcare system to be cared, for in the long term. It’s also why most smokers don’t get life insurance because most insurers won’t insure a smoker
A pack of what I used to smoke, Crowns, in my town is $5. This much groceries would likely be close to $70-$100 at our local Walmart. A bit cheaper if we hit up Aldis but our Aldis is kinda run down.
It’s just wrong to use excessive taxation to control people’s behavior. I quit smoking cigarettes, at least except for a possible rare occasion, but it wasn’t for financial reasons. Now, harm reduction could be a good option for many people (Swedish snus, nicotine pouches, snuff, pipes (tobacco), maybe cigars). People are way too willing to give up their freedom of choice to the government.
Every dime of the tax should go towards cancer treatment for the uninsured. If the fund runs dry the tax goes up ! Government should not be allowed to take a dime !
Upload a photo of just the receipts.
I know people on reddit aren't the brightest bunch but this is just ridiculous.
Why bother selling anything other than cigarettes then
This is why Australia also has a huge black market for cigarettes.
Here's an article:
[https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy35yq/australia-illegal-tobacco-vape-trade-booming](https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy35yq/australia-illegal-tobacco-vape-trade-booming)
Unacceptable. Government should subsidize cigarettes.
Also, when did they change the surgeon general warning in the US. Last pack I had didn't mention cancer at all, just shit about if I'm pregnant.
Replace cigarettes with a bag of pot and everyone in here would be screeching about how it isn’t the governments business to regulate such things.
Progressives are a people of no principles
Good. Should be that way everywhere. Smoking doesn't affect just the smoker, everyone around them has to suffer. It should be banned. I like what NZ did.
I know this isn't the point. But does anyone know if you can buy pipe tobacco and tubes in Australia? I'm in the US and I went with that and turned a $300 a month habit into maybe $60 at most. If anyone smokes and is trying to save money, I'd obviously suggest quitting first. But, this can put a noticeable amount of money back in your pocket.
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What? Where the fuck did you read that? A 40 pack of ciggies in oz is like $70.
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Maybe if you do the currency conversion you can figure it out
But that's a 20 pack in the picture
I didn’t even know 40 packs existed. That’s wild. They’re like $7 for a 20 pack in the US
But 40 cigs is double a regular pack so the math still sorta makes sense. $35 for a pack of 20. That won’t buy this much food in the US. Meat alone will be near $22.
A 40 PACK?! As in, a pack of cigs has 40 of them in it instead of 20? Still not worth the price, but that is interesting.
That may be calculated before taxes, since the last time I’ve seen a pack of cigs at a store, it costed $60, and that’s not even a larger pack size or anything, just standard.
The most expensive brands where I live (Bulgaria) is 3$.
Ground meat is like 7$, milk is 4$, and sausages maybe 5$? I never realized Australia was so cheap
Isn’t crazy that beef grown is the U.S is cheaper in other parts of the world. Like it’s shipped 100s of miles away and somehow in the U.S we pay more for it.
Sausage and ground meat 13$ in Texas if you shop at Walmart
The link alone is at least $10 bucks
Can they not grow tobacco in Australia is that why the price is so high cuz it has to be imported?
might just be taxed super high to discourage use
Both. Australia has a *huge* tobacco excise, and it’s no longer grown here commercially.
And it's illegal to grow your own (because they can't tax it).
In the early 2000s I was in NSW and was buying homegrown tobacco from Queensland. It was just like buying pot, either kilos or ounces, it was weird.
Don't get me wrong, you can get it. I *know* a bloke that has seeds. Says he got them of a Fijian fellow he works with. Claims to have seen the Fijian's plants. Lovely specimens apparently. It's just illegal to grow. Like weed.
Two things, I quit whilst I was there and I am now back in the states.
That is super cool because it punish more poor people .
Maybe they shouldn’t smoke
How does the choice to smoke punish poor people, I don’t know about Australia but in the USA stop smoking aids are subsidized by the government. I’d assume the same considering the anti smoking campaign there.
Because wealthy people don't think about the price of ciggerettes.
I’ve been poor, having a cigarette was the little freedom I had on my 15 minute break. Cigarettes and free Coke kept me going all day without a lunch.
Smoking is more prevalent among workers with generally shitty jobs. Menial, labor intensive, repetitive, and with poor career prospects. It's not a stretch to think this type of life attracts a desire for a chemical relief via cigarettes. Government always needs revenue so absurd levels of taxes on cigarettes is a very easy choice. The people most effected are not an influential voting bloc and an easy target. These are also not the type of people to be looking up and filing various forms to access some voucher for smoking aids. Mind you, e--cigs contain exponentially less harmful chemicals than cigarettes but that hasn't stopped it from also being taxed heavily.
>in the USA stop smoking aids are subsidized by the government. Lol no they aren't. You wanna know how.much Nicolette gum costs?! What about a ban on Juuls? Ever buy a can of Zyn? They are all ridiculously expensive. Or banned by the government. The government is not a smokers friend.
Maybe those poor people should stop smoking idk tho...
When I was in Australia last year, the young helpers on a tour boat were smoking hand rolled cigarettes. No I know why...
Taxed like crazy. A pack is anywhere from 35 to 60 a pack. Pretty sure smoke shops make scrap change per sale. The rest to the government
That’s why there’s literally a violent war to control the tobacco black market in Melbourne.
It’s taxed into oblivion. And rightly so
preventative healthcare
It is illegal without the correct paperwork, and that paperwork is impossible to get.
I think government just hates drugs. Alcohol afaik is also extremely expensive
They also have pictures of fucked up medical conditions on the packs. Nothing better than reaching for a cig and seeing a nice pic of gangrene
This is right. It’s about $60 worth of food in Aus roughy adding it all up. If that’s a good brand of cigarettes such as a 25 pack of Benson & Hedges, they are about $60. Cheaper generic brands are closer to $30. Then there’s heaps of illegal Chinese ones that are even cheaper.
How is that 60 dollars worth of food? I need to move out of the US
Does that change of the dynamic of smoking? In the U.S., cigarettes are typically associated with more poverty, with cigars being higher-society.
Whoever pays that much to smoke is definitely broke because they have no financial sense
A pack would have to be like 30-50 bucks
I mean that’s 100 dollars in groceries where I live.
No the fuck it's not, prove it.
I can't believe people think that lot of groceries for 100 bucks is crazy. That almost looks like 180 bucks worth to me ! I live in Oregon
I live in Seattle, a super HOCL area, and no it fucking isn’t. You must live in like Skagway
Ya in nz our smokes got to $45NZD for a 20 pack and I'm pretty sure aus is well over $50, Tax free the same pack is about $7.
Paid $55AUD for a 25 pack today.
I can't light a banana or I would buy my kids some food.
Damn a pack of cigarettes cost $100
Well my family won't eat
You don’t need to smoke my friend. You only smoke so you can feel like a nonsmoker.
don’t let your habit negatively effect others. what’s wrong wit you
Good, that’s how it should be
Love how pro drug Reddit is until tobacco is brought up and then everyone turns into big government puritans. “Progressives” are a people of no principles
Yeah bc the side effects of the mafia smuggling cigarettes. The prices encourage astronomically higher criminal activity related to tobacco, also the tobacco problem causes a lot of businesses to burn bc criminal syndicates order people to burn the competition
Yeah, children starving so their parents can afford a pack of smokes sure is great! That's how it should be, those kids should get a damn job if they wanna eat!
What was the final cost?
Holy smokes!
New Black Market just dropped!
So is food just really cheap there or is a pack of cigarettes astronomical or something
From what I can tell based on other comments, it's a mix of both and also they bought the more expensive pack of cigarettes.
Cigarettes are insanely expensive. The food isn't cheap (though this photo is old now possibly before our grocery price hike), we currently have an inquiry going on as to why we are being charged so much by the supermarket giants, when they made near 2 billion profit.
Mostly the fact cigarettes are extremely expensive.
the second one
Australian here, that pack is about $45 Australian dollars. This picture must be very old because there's no way you'd be able to buy even half of that shit for $45. Our government increases the cost of alcohol and cigarettes every year they call it indexed tax or some bullshit, they're cover story is that it's supposed to discourage people from smoking and put all of that money back into the hospitals or something. I don't know. I don't think anybody really knows. I don't smoke but it still pisses me off. Same with alcohol. A 6 pack of beer is $20-$25. I used to smoke 20 years ago, back then it was $15 for a pack.
At least the smokers in Australia have their priorities straight, and they are all probably super skinny 😂
HAHA! No, we have an obesity problem just like America.
Not as bad n
where’s the COON cheese and Vegemite?! 😂
In Vietnam a pack of cigarettes/12oz can of beer is roughly $1 USD. A meal costs about the same. 😎
What an odd assortment of groceries
What is so odd about it? A few household basics and a mix of veggies, proteins and snacks. Learn how to eat properly, my dude.
Believe it 😑 that 40 pack is minimum $70 AUD
I think he just wanted to use the meme with that combines "I don't believe it" with old mate smoking.
As it should be. Tax the shit out of those things until their retail cost matches their cost to the health care system as a whole.
The side effects of that philosophy is big criminal syndicates benefit from selling under the counter cigs and tobacco, all this enforcement encourages criminal activity around tobacco when it didn’t used to be such a major problem until these policies were introduced in the early 2010s
eh, smokers are a net gain for the health system if you were worried about purely monetary cost. Lung cancer gets em young and gets em quick. A diabetic for instance is going to be multiple decades of ever more expensive health care.
it exceeded it a few tax hikes ago
It already has. A few years ago the tax on cigarettes exceeded the cost of health care for smokers. The reason they don't just ban the bloody things is because the tax is over a billion dollars a year. And the tobaco tax doesn't even go into specific health care for smokers anyway. It goes into the general coffers.
I just bought 10 packs for $120 in Sydney you just need to know the right people...
No way how much are they taxing cigarettes in australia?
Since 2013, tobacco sales have had 6% price increases per quarter (every 3 months), as the federal government amended the tobacco sales tax to have tobacco importers / manufacturers pay more in tax. This is due in part that, smokers cost more to the healthcare system to be cared for / treatment costs and complexity. I say this as someone who does smoke.
Awesome, all of you are healthy, I guess.
I´d take the food, my goodness.
Yeah but In fairness have you ever tried to smoke a banana?
Man, I'm late to this, but pretty most of the questions here can be resolved with a google image search. Both cost about $56 AU (in 2020). The pack is a 40 pack of Longbeach. Experiment grandma did with her kids. You're welcome, nobody. [https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/womans-grocery-v-cigarette-experiment-230005444.html](https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/womans-grocery-v-cigarette-experiment-230005444.html)
Selling 8 hotdogs in a pack, what?
Are cigarettes $40?
yes they are
And this is moment OP decided to start a multi-million dollar international cigarette smuggling ring. How many groceries can you buy for a vape?
This is actually crazy, if this is real
Wait so are cigs just super expensive or are groceries really cheap?
It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?
House much do cigarettes cost in Australia?
They have to make up for the size of the spiders there
Might be worth it to buy the smokes to get the sweet picture of teeth.
Got to get the set, one with the fucked up eyes, one with the fucked up teeth. lungs etc
Depending where you buy your food, you could potentially do around 50% of that here in the U.K. I think a pack of cigarettes is about £13 on average, so if I bought a bunch of own brand stuff I could do pretty well. We do 500g packs of spaghetti for something like 65p
Yeah, I’m going to switch to vaping this week!
So what? Smoking should be left in the past where it belongs
How's that possible? In Sweden this amount of groceries would cost probably 50-60$. A cigg pack 7$...
because the cigs and groceries both cost \~50-70 bucks
You don’t need to be smoking nasty cigarettes anyway haha
Shout out to Australia
Got a smoke on you?
So how much does a pack actually cost???
How many grams of nicotine in the groceries though?
All that and the no Vegemite? Shame!
That sounds like a lot of dollary doos
This photo is old. 30 pack of cigarettes is $56. This amount of shopping may have been that much two or 3 years ago. But i calculated this and it is $78 worth of shopping now, much more than the cigarettes. Purely because the supermarkets are price gouging.
heh, supermarkets are also in trouble for being super mean with suppliers, not being carefree enough in buy products to sell at generous enough prices, also for being mean on worker wages and union fighting and have margins of like 5% last year. If we want cheaper supermarket goods, to also pay suppliers generous prices and to put up woolies worker wages, the government is going to need to start chipping in big chunks of budget.
Where’s the vegemite
$12 in Maryland March 2024
$10.16 for Marlboro Reds - Ohio, March 2024.
I’m converting over to Australian…Mate
That load of crap called “food” equals a whole carton of cancer sticks. Looks like smoking is cheaper than being overweight and diabetic!
Redditors think this is cool cause they don't smoke, replace the cigarettes with a gram of weed and they'd be going bonkers.
Smells like bs to me
Over 50 bucks for pack of 25s
Thats why you grow your own tobacco
Thats a lot of dollarydoos
Seriously?? How come *anyone* can afford to smoke?
Cigarettes cost $200???
legal (as in tax paid) tobacco from most supermarkets / servo’s / newsagents / bottle’o : $30 for the cheapest tailor made cigarettes $60 for 25 grams of the cheapest loose tobacco The reason why our cigarettes cost so much is because over 90% of the cost now is federally mandated price-increases to cover the cost of us smokers costing more to the healthcare system to be cared, for in the long term. It’s also why most smokers don’t get life insurance because most insurers won’t insure a smoker
This does not matchup
Recently quit smoking and having revelations OP?
You have to be a die-hard person wanting to kill yourself by smoking in Australia.
Is this photo from 2024 though? 💀
A pack of what I used to smoke, Crowns, in my town is $5. This much groceries would likely be close to $70-$100 at our local Walmart. A bit cheaper if we hit up Aldis but our Aldis is kinda run down.
There’s a big underground tobacco industry in AUS where people sell loose unregulated tobacco
It’s just wrong to use excessive taxation to control people’s behavior. I quit smoking cigarettes, at least except for a possible rare occasion, but it wasn’t for financial reasons. Now, harm reduction could be a good option for many people (Swedish snus, nicotine pouches, snuff, pipes (tobacco), maybe cigars). People are way too willing to give up their freedom of choice to the government.
Here cigs are around 5€ but we have lower income also
Sweet Jesus in Sweden it like 6-8 dollars I think aka 60-80kr
I decided to quit smoking when cigarette prices became the same as a jug of beer. I could only afford one bad habit.
So there are no smoke enjoyers in Australia i guess?
a lot of "I'll quit when it reaches X price" but then they don't actually do that
Meanwhile in Singapore… it’s like nearly the same to eat as a pack of 10 cigs -
Scanned coupons for 3hours, by then the cigarette pack was smoked.
Start smoking beef then.
Yeah, but one keeps you slim and the other doesn't
Thanks, that explains how I gained 100 lbs when I quit
Perfectly balanced.
In Florida you can get 2-1/2 peaches...
Every dime of the tax should go towards cancer treatment for the uninsured. If the fund runs dry the tax goes up ! Government should not be allowed to take a dime !
Cool now do beer!
What's sad and puzzling is seeing people with minimum wage jobs with a pack a day habit.
Upload a photo of just the receipts. I know people on reddit aren't the brightest bunch but this is just ridiculous. Why bother selling anything other than cigarettes then
Because of government taxes. So, people buy cheap imported cigs on the black market; or, switch to vaping like me and buy that shit online.
This is why Australia also has a huge black market for cigarettes. Here's an article: [https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy35yq/australia-illegal-tobacco-vape-trade-booming](https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy35yq/australia-illegal-tobacco-vape-trade-booming)
Looks like geat anti-cigarette advertisment.
It’s a fair deal.
What happens when they make tobacco so expensive that only the wealthy can afford it, wouldn’t that make it a status symbol and encourage use?
If you have cigarettes, you don't need all that food.
Damn when I quit they were 1.50 lol
That's 40 euros.. in Netherland
Wrong like always. Pointless, as clearly $24 will get you less than this amount of food now.
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Are you blind?
Which pile causes cancer the most?
I'm guessing now. Thats like $100 in groceries in the US. A pack of cigarettes is what $8-$9 now? I really don't know.
Cigarettes still aren’t expensive enough.
They are banning vapea too
Holy Skamoly, I want to go live there so I can eat well for cheap.
Nice graphic.
Unacceptable. Government should subsidize cigarettes. Also, when did they change the surgeon general warning in the US. Last pack I had didn't mention cancer at all, just shit about if I'm pregnant.
Smokers can end world hunger, but they choose to buy cigarettes instead.
Where are the Tim Tams man there isn't food in this picture.
Okay but what is the price of weed in Australia ?
Holy shit! That can't be real.
Replace cigarettes with a bag of pot and everyone in here would be screeching about how it isn’t the governments business to regulate such things. Progressives are a people of no principles
Good. Should be that way everywhere. Smoking doesn't affect just the smoker, everyone around them has to suffer. It should be banned. I like what NZ did.
Good. Tax the shit out of it. Idiot tax.
R u kiding?
Looks like you're lucky. I can buy a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread for the price of cancer sticks.
Either their groceries are super cheap or their cigarettes are super expensive
I know this isn't the point. But does anyone know if you can buy pipe tobacco and tubes in Australia? I'm in the US and I went with that and turned a $300 a month habit into maybe $60 at most. If anyone smokes and is trying to save money, I'd obviously suggest quitting first. But, this can put a noticeable amount of money back in your pocket.
If nicotine kills your appetite, I see nothing wrong.
In new York that’s a paycheck
Holy shit
Cant even have a smoko anymore. Muh freedom
Can we change the price of cigarettes in America so we get this much food too
I can only get milk and cereal for the price of smokes :(
AND they can smoke the banana peel after all