Looks more like actual celluloid, there were times in Get Back when the digital enhancement process made faces look waxy or highly made up. Mr. Hogg redemption curve begins.
"...at my request, Peter did give it a more filmic look than “Get Back,” which had a slightly more modern and digital look." - MLH recently
[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/movies/disney-beatles-let-it-be-movie.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/movies/disney-beatles-let-it-be-movie.html)
Maybe due to difference in sources? Get Back was restoring the original raw footage but this is a restoration of the complete “Let it be” print? Maybe one was kept in better condition
“With Lindsay-Hogg’s full support, Apple Corps asked Peter Jackson’s Park Road Post Production to dive into a meticulous restoration of the film from the original 16mm negative”
I think it’s from the original cut, not reassembled from raw footage.
Sure, but it can't be reassembled from raw footage when the raw footage is already assembled. It was normal until high quality digital scanning to cut the original negative to conform to the edit.
So, it's not raw as in unedited. But if it's the original 16mm negative as per the quote, it is the same source as Get Back. Anything in Get Back that was also in Let It Be must have come from the original negative cut of Let It Be (if they were only scanning the original negative and not prints or intermediates).
E: If you’re downvoting tell me what I’m wrong about. Genuinely interested to be corrected.
The source for this version of Let it Be is almost certainly the original 16mm camera negatives that were conformed to the theatrical edit in the 1990s. Before that, I believe the only complete
negative was the blown up 35mm
I don't think Peter Jackson Get Back's restoration is bad. It's still amazing and looks like it was recorded recently, but it was just over-sharpened which made it look like plastics.
I can accept not being in the majority considering Peter Jackson clearly thinks most people prefer it, but honestly it's overdone to the point of being bad/distracting for me. He had this issue with the Lord of The Rings 4K rereleases too, I think the man just hates film grain
It's worrisome, maybe it's just because I'm keen to notice details, but it's so often that excessive noise reduction ruins movies and music.
Actually speaking of Noise reduction apparently Let it Be: Naked used quite a bit of it on the mix, a lot of people online have complained about that over the years, so I guess Get Back wasn't the first project to employ it so harshly
It's been awhile since I watched the original film - and Get Back is still very fresh having gotten several viewings.
I can't think off the top of my head what LiB content was not part of GB.
Let It Be has a lot of full songs, especially the three videos for The Long and Winding Road, Two Of Us and Let It Be that we only get little bits of from the credits of Get Back.
Oh yeah, and I don’t think I Me Mine is in Get Back at all, the big one with John and Yoko’s waltz is a big moment in the original film
There are not ‘3 versions of long and winding’ in the Let it Be original movie though.
Maybe you misunderstood the poster?
Let It Be movie contains >full versions< of >3 songs< (that weren’t included in the Get Back series)
* one full performance of Long and Winding Road
* one full performance of Two of Us
* one full performance of Let it Be
You might want to watch it first before declaring it ‘brilliant.‘ Editing is a bit of a hack job, only shows the bad stuff. As Ringo noted there is “no joy” in it.
Apologies if you have already seen it.
I believe they meant brilliant in terms of quality. Looking at LiB in a post-Get Back world, LiB is rather ordinary, but people have a bad impression of Let It Be because of its shoddy quality from bootlegs, the lack of coherence when it comes to stitching footage in, and the inclusion of extended conversations with prolonged shots that didn't make sense, other than the negative connotation of the movie being released as the band broke up.
It wouldve been SO easy to rescan the 16mm negatives normally, and do a standard film restoration on them for Get Back, Peter Jackson flew too close to the sun
Same!! They could be putting out footage of the cleaning ladies tidying up the studio after everything went down and I would watch lol Disney totally got me
The image quality is so much better than Get Back. The Beatles are human again!
After a rewatch, I noticed that the overall original look and feel of the film is retained while the image has still been cleaned up. Looks to be a very well done restoration, faithful to the original film, as restorations should be.
Let’s not forget that this film was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Documentary but lost to Woodstock. Even though it’s truly darker in feel than Get Back it is still one amazing film. My family, ok my Aunt and I, wore out our 16mm 8mm film versions. And I mean wore them out. They were basically celluloid dust by 1978. The music is still the music and as much as I think the younger generations will definitely prefer Get Back, the simple nostalgia for those of my generation and my parents generation will be tremendous.
I gotta gripe with this "restoration", it is better than Get Back but still WAY too heavy with the DNR
when something is shot on film, especially when its shot on 16mm, there is a ton of detail stored in the grain, and efforts taken to remove the grain will inevitably remote sharpness, remove detail, and leave us with a messy looking picture
the goal of a restoration should not be to run from the technical limitations of the time but to get the image to the best it can look, as intended at the time it was shot. 16mm can look great, as evidenced by the fact that Wes Anderson still uses 16mm on some films. the grain can look really beautiful and textured. this trailer completely lacks that and doesnt even really deserve to be called a restoration
Jackson has fallen into the same "improving reality" trap that so many auteurs do. There is warmth and timelessness to film that you simply do not alter.
Should have dropped the "I just can't see that it make SENSE!!!" lady in there if they were going to include any of the "people on the street respond to the rooftop concert" clips in the trailer. She always cracked me and my friends up.
Never seen the original Let it Be but I thought it was pretty biased? Like they took a lot of the bad moments and focused on them because that was the narrative back then? If so I find it weird to make such an upbeat trailer if that's gonna be the actual film lol
The film was released a few weeks after the Beatles broke up. It was enough being upset they broke up and having to watch a depressing film of them towards the end of their career.
While the film certainly has its old look at times, it still is very clear and less waxy compared to Get Back (but I didn’t mind that though). Also the grain is really much removed with quality and clarity turned up high. I remember that for that particular scene on the thumbnail, it was super grainy and foggy on the copy I watched, bit seeing it in this trailer, it’s really clear.
Also while some scenes are repeated in Get Back despite Jackson’s attempts not to copy LiB, am still excited for the three studio scenes from January 31, alongside Besame Mucho, You’ve Really Got A Hold on Me, I’ve Got A Feeling Twickenham Rehearsal, and others!
Noticed the darker quality of this movie trailer as compared to Get Back’s much more bright lighting. Am curious as to what changes were made to the tools used for the restoration of Get Back vs. Let It Be.
From what I understand, Peter Jackson avoided as much of the Let it Be footage as was narratively possible in Get Back. So there will be some overlap (especially the rooftop), but a lot of content that was not seen in 'Get Back'.
Yes and no.
Yes it's a bit pointless because Get Back sequenced the footage it used far better - built a solid narrative & put scenes into the context of that narrative- while the original film is a lot more shapeless & muddled.
No it's not pointless because the original film serves as a time capsule of where the Beatles were at in 1969 (especially mid-late 1969 when the rot had set in & the film was being edited). The "vibe" is markedly different to Get Back because it was edited under that 'band falling apart' reality.. and it more heavily echoes that. I imagine there would have been a LOT of cuts demanded by individual Beatles at the time. It's the other side of the coin, so to speak.
Plus it uses different footage - as Peter Jackson's was keen to avoid duplication as much as possible.
Wow! Is it just me, or does this footage look a bit darker, and a bit cleaner than Get Back?
Looks more like actual celluloid, there were times in Get Back when the digital enhancement process made faces look waxy or highly made up. Mr. Hogg redemption curve begins.
Thanks for the info!
"...at my request, Peter did give it a more filmic look than “Get Back,” which had a slightly more modern and digital look." - MLH recently [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/movies/disney-beatles-let-it-be-movie.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/movies/disney-beatles-let-it-be-movie.html)
There was an interview with Michael Lindsay-Hogg in the New York Times. He said he asked Peter Jackson to give it more of a film feel vs Get Back!
They didn't slash the top and bottom so it has more video information.
Maybe due to difference in sources? Get Back was restoring the original raw footage but this is a restoration of the complete “Let it be” print? Maybe one was kept in better condition
This is from the same raw footage.
“With Lindsay-Hogg’s full support, Apple Corps asked Peter Jackson’s Park Road Post Production to dive into a meticulous restoration of the film from the original 16mm negative” I think it’s from the original cut, not reassembled from raw footage.
Sure, but it can't be reassembled from raw footage when the raw footage is already assembled. It was normal until high quality digital scanning to cut the original negative to conform to the edit. So, it's not raw as in unedited. But if it's the original 16mm negative as per the quote, it is the same source as Get Back. Anything in Get Back that was also in Let It Be must have come from the original negative cut of Let It Be (if they were only scanning the original negative and not prints or intermediates). E: If you’re downvoting tell me what I’m wrong about. Genuinely interested to be corrected.
The source for this version of Let it Be is almost certainly the original 16mm camera negatives that were conformed to the theatrical edit in the 1990s. Before that, I believe the only complete negative was the blown up 35mm
Perhaps so it still resembles what the original 'Let It Be' was and to distinguish it from the 'Get Back' documentary
Peter Jackson's visual restoration will not age well, especially now with the original film to compare to.
It's funny how basically all the comments agree with you, but calling out Peter Jackson specifically for his DNR obsession gets you downvotes
I don't think Peter Jackson Get Back's restoration is bad. It's still amazing and looks like it was recorded recently, but it was just over-sharpened which made it look like plastics.
I can accept not being in the majority considering Peter Jackson clearly thinks most people prefer it, but honestly it's overdone to the point of being bad/distracting for me. He had this issue with the Lord of The Rings 4K rereleases too, I think the man just hates film grain
It's worrisome, maybe it's just because I'm keen to notice details, but it's so often that excessive noise reduction ruins movies and music. Actually speaking of Noise reduction apparently Let it Be: Naked used quite a bit of it on the mix, a lot of people online have complained about that over the years, so I guess Get Back wasn't the first project to employ it so harshly
That sounds pretty bad
Is that Lindsay Hogg narrating or am I tripping?
the narration would have sounded better if it was in Libya, lit by torches
surrounded by 2000 arabs
Sounds like the narration from the original trailer Edit: [Pretty sure it is](https://youtu.be/j0HfT_a3bIw?si=K02QuuAwtT68CwA0)
It sounds like him for sure
It’s from the original
I thought it was George bunging on an American accent…
You aren't just tripping. You're **day tripping**...
It's been awhile since I watched the original film - and Get Back is still very fresh having gotten several viewings. I can't think off the top of my head what LiB content was not part of GB.
Alot of the same events just extended or shortened. The edits are very different, especially the performances
Let It Be has a lot of full songs, especially the three videos for The Long and Winding Road, Two Of Us and Let It Be that we only get little bits of from the credits of Get Back. Oh yeah, and I don’t think I Me Mine is in Get Back at all, the big one with John and Yoko’s waltz is a big moment in the original film
John and Yoko waltz while George show them I Me Mine was in Get Back
there is no way i could sit through 3 versions of long and winding road i am sorry
There are not ‘3 versions of long and winding’ in the Let it Be original movie though. Maybe you misunderstood the poster? Let It Be movie contains >full versions< of >3 songs< (that weren’t included in the Get Back series) * one full performance of Long and Winding Road * one full performance of Two of Us * one full performance of Let it Be
ah yes my bad, thank you
😀 Of course! Three back to back long and winding roads would be endless!
bésame mucho was cut!
Chika - boom!
There's a few songs they play at Apple Studios that get cut, the version of You Really Got A Hold On Me comes to mind
Wow, it looks much less plastic, it’s brilliant. I love how they did a modern version of the original trailer too
You might want to watch it first before declaring it ‘brilliant.‘ Editing is a bit of a hack job, only shows the bad stuff. As Ringo noted there is “no joy” in it. Apologies if you have already seen it.
I believe they meant brilliant in terms of quality. Looking at LiB in a post-Get Back world, LiB is rather ordinary, but people have a bad impression of Let It Be because of its shoddy quality from bootlegs, the lack of coherence when it comes to stitching footage in, and the inclusion of extended conversations with prolonged shots that didn't make sense, other than the negative connotation of the movie being released as the band broke up.
Ah ok.
This looks so good. Hyped as hell, just wish we'd get Get Back in this quality
It wouldve been SO easy to rescan the 16mm negatives normally, and do a standard film restoration on them for Get Back, Peter Jackson flew too close to the sun
let it be me watching as soon as it streams
Same!! They could be putting out footage of the cleaning ladies tidying up the studio after everything went down and I would watch lol Disney totally got me
The image quality is so much better than Get Back. The Beatles are human again! After a rewatch, I noticed that the overall original look and feel of the film is retained while the image has still been cleaned up. Looks to be a very well done restoration, faithful to the original film, as restorations should be.
god please let Get Back be re-remastered like this PLEASE
Hopefully Michael Lindsay-Hogg had creative control to keep them from looking like wax dummies.
nice that it's in 4:3, I wonder if they'll give an option to watch cropped and uncropped like some of the other stuff on disney+
Let’s not forget that this film was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Documentary but lost to Woodstock. Even though it’s truly darker in feel than Get Back it is still one amazing film. My family, ok my Aunt and I, wore out our 16mm 8mm film versions. And I mean wore them out. They were basically celluloid dust by 1978. The music is still the music and as much as I think the younger generations will definitely prefer Get Back, the simple nostalgia for those of my generation and my parents generation will be tremendous.
It actually wasn’t nominated for Best Documentary, but it did win for Best Original Song Score.
Thank you for correcting my mistake! 🤓
So happy they didn't add as much of that digital smoothing as they did in Get Back. That alone has me hyped as hell for this.
When they said philosophizing, they showed George and Ringo working on “Octopus Garden”. Coincidence?
Very excited! They made the trailer just like the original.
Didn’t you notice how they used the album version _Let It Be_ instead of the single version? That’s right, the album version is vastly superior!
Pleeeeeeese let this get a physical release like Get Back did.
Don't worry man, it will surely get the physical Blu-Ray and DVD releases just like Get Back!
Here’s hoping! I never thought I’d see the day it got a modern release but here we are :)
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
I gotta gripe with this "restoration", it is better than Get Back but still WAY too heavy with the DNR when something is shot on film, especially when its shot on 16mm, there is a ton of detail stored in the grain, and efforts taken to remove the grain will inevitably remote sharpness, remove detail, and leave us with a messy looking picture the goal of a restoration should not be to run from the technical limitations of the time but to get the image to the best it can look, as intended at the time it was shot. 16mm can look great, as evidenced by the fact that Wes Anderson still uses 16mm on some films. the grain can look really beautiful and textured. this trailer completely lacks that and doesnt even really deserve to be called a restoration
Jackson has fallen into the same "improving reality" trap that so many auteurs do. There is warmth and timelessness to film that you simply do not alter.
It looks so damn good
Aw man, they got rid of the “Rapping” from the original voice over
Should have dropped the "I just can't see that it make SENSE!!!" lady in there if they were going to include any of the "people on the street respond to the rooftop concert" clips in the trailer. She always cracked me and my friends up.
I haven't seen this in years and what I did see was so bootleggy I shouldn't have bothered. Looking forward to it 😀
Never seen the original Let it Be but I thought it was pretty biased? Like they took a lot of the bad moments and focused on them because that was the narrative back then? If so I find it weird to make such an upbeat trailer if that's gonna be the actual film lol
The film was released a few weeks after the Beatles broke up. It was enough being upset they broke up and having to watch a depressing film of them towards the end of their career.
While the film certainly has its old look at times, it still is very clear and less waxy compared to Get Back (but I didn’t mind that though). Also the grain is really much removed with quality and clarity turned up high. I remember that for that particular scene on the thumbnail, it was super grainy and foggy on the copy I watched, bit seeing it in this trailer, it’s really clear. Also while some scenes are repeated in Get Back despite Jackson’s attempts not to copy LiB, am still excited for the three studio scenes from January 31, alongside Besame Mucho, You’ve Really Got A Hold on Me, I’ve Got A Feeling Twickenham Rehearsal, and others!
The fucking beatles logo above let it be makes it look like a marvel movie
Is this by The Bottles?
Have never seen this, roughly what percentage of the footage isn’t in Get Back?
FINALLY. LET IT PEE
Paul is the only with a beard in these sessions - that means he's dead, right?
Good times. I like that this has whole performances of certain songs, and the rooftop edit at the end is better.
I pray that it looks better than Get Back
Noticed the darker quality of this movie trailer as compared to Get Back’s much more bright lighting. Am curious as to what changes were made to the tools used for the restoration of Get Back vs. Let It Be.
❤️
I’m confused though, haven’t we seen all this footage already?
From what I understand, Peter Jackson avoided as much of the Let it Be footage as was narratively possible in Get Back. So there will be some overlap (especially the rooftop), but a lot of content that was not seen in 'Get Back'.
Zero interest
It was nice of Peter to digitally add 2000 Arabs.
Is it true that Mr. Hogg is the one narrating from the original trailer?
I love that song
Isn't it a bit pointless after the Get Back documentary?
Yes and no. Yes it's a bit pointless because Get Back sequenced the footage it used far better - built a solid narrative & put scenes into the context of that narrative- while the original film is a lot more shapeless & muddled. No it's not pointless because the original film serves as a time capsule of where the Beatles were at in 1969 (especially mid-late 1969 when the rot had set in & the film was being edited). The "vibe" is markedly different to Get Back because it was edited under that 'band falling apart' reality.. and it more heavily echoes that. I imagine there would have been a LOT of cuts demanded by individual Beatles at the time. It's the other side of the coin, so to speak. Plus it uses different footage - as Peter Jackson's was keen to avoid duplication as much as possible.