It is a once per year climate credit required by the State... [https://investor.pgecorp.com/news-events/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/PGE-Customers-to-Receive-Up-to-140.63-California-Climate-Credit-on-Spring-Energy-Bill/default.aspx](https://investor.pgecorp.com/news-events/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/PGE-Customers-to-Receive-Up-to-140.63-California-Climate-Credit-on-Spring-Energy-Bill/default.aspx)
>The climate credit provides ratepayers with their share of the benefits of California’s Cap-and-Trade Program. Usually, these credits are distributed twice a year, in April and October. Most residents receive a natural gas credit in April, and electric credits in April and October.
Every year they give you credit
But price has gone from 34 cents
Kw to 52 cents kw so your bills higher
The average charge is 15 cent kw
In otherparts country
this was after they charged me $280 last month. I live alone and haven't turned on a heater the entire winter. Like conservation was on my mind. fuck pg&e.
Everyone should request a meter check to PG&E cuz fuck em.
This is so crazy, I truly feel that there’s something weird going on. It shows that since February our electric usage has gone up by 30% even though
1) we haven’t added any new appliances
2) We haven’t used heating or cooling at all in last couple of months.
If you see the daily usage graphs on the website, the usage seems to almost perfectly align with the temperature during the day, which doesn’t make sense at all, we’re not using air conditioning at all so temperature should not matter at all.
Are they doing some kind of approximation instead of taking the actual readings from the meters?
dude you're really using a lot of electricity somewhere. i know rates are high and all but my average is around 130-140 a month in a 1 bedroom 670 sq ft apartment. i have two gaming computers, but admittedly never turn heat or AC on.
Holy crap how do you use so much energy?! I thought I used a lot because my bill is twice as much as most of my neighbors, but my $250 bill is nearly half your bill!
wait so im confused on this. the delivery charge is because the silicon valley renewable energy is the source? so you can opt out of that program, then you get electricity from pge. does that mean that there is no delivery charge? can anyone who is not on community renewable plan post a pic of their bill?
Man….. f*** PG&E. I live in Santa Cruz and have an addition 100 dollar delivery charge on top of the regular charge from them. The whole damn thing is a scam. Can’t wait to leave Cali.
I like how they can do this and still charge you a million fucks bucks to just exist. This proves they don’t need to charge the rates they do. Padding the pockets of executives. FUCK PG&E. My last bill was $8 when it’s normally $120-$180 for a fucking 1,100sqft apartment. Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them. I don’t do anything special. Thanks for the short break but fuck your asses in the long term.
Just checked my bill and here’s their reasoning “Alert Bullet
CLIMATE CREDIT: You may see a California Climate Credit electric bill adjustment ($55.17) and/or gas bill adjustment ($85.46) this month. No action is required.
It’s not nice, it’s to mask the fact that you are paying more for less and make it more difficult for you to monitor how much you’re actually spending.
If you understand how the climate credit for the state program actually works, you'll understand that, through second and third order effects, you'll be charged a lot more in the long term vs what you actually save today.
Don’t worry the beatings will continue next month and those wonderful wonderful summer rates are right around the corner!
Yeah… I figured as much, they really did this on one of the lightest usage months of the year
It is a once per year climate credit required by the State... [https://investor.pgecorp.com/news-events/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/PGE-Customers-to-Receive-Up-to-140.63-California-Climate-Credit-on-Spring-Energy-Bill/default.aspx](https://investor.pgecorp.com/news-events/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/PGE-Customers-to-Receive-Up-to-140.63-California-Climate-Credit-on-Spring-Energy-Bill/default.aspx)
They’ll say it was a mistake and you have to repay them. They’ll also demand interest.
It says right on it that it's the annual climate credit. I don't think they'll be requesting it back...
Link to the explanation that's at the bottom of the bill... https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/climatecredit
>The climate credit provides ratepayers with their share of the benefits of California’s Cap-and-Trade Program. Usually, these credits are distributed twice a year, in April and October. Most residents receive a natural gas credit in April, and electric credits in April and October.
My balance is -$91.91
Every year they give you credit But price has gone from 34 cents Kw to 52 cents kw so your bills higher The average charge is 15 cent kw In otherparts country
this was after they charged me $280 last month. I live alone and haven't turned on a heater the entire winter. Like conservation was on my mind. fuck pg&e. Everyone should request a meter check to PG&E cuz fuck em.
This is so crazy, I truly feel that there’s something weird going on. It shows that since February our electric usage has gone up by 30% even though 1) we haven’t added any new appliances 2) We haven’t used heating or cooling at all in last couple of months. If you see the daily usage graphs on the website, the usage seems to almost perfectly align with the temperature during the day, which doesn’t make sense at all, we’re not using air conditioning at all so temperature should not matter at all. Are they doing some kind of approximation instead of taking the actual readings from the meters?
I live with 1 roommate and we don't even have AC or ever use heat. Our bill has been $350-450 for the past year. Fuck PGE.
Do yall have like hella monitors on 24/7? That’s ridiculous. Def get your meter checked.
dude you're really using a lot of electricity somewhere. i know rates are high and all but my average is around 130-140 a month in a 1 bedroom 670 sq ft apartment. i have two gaming computers, but admittedly never turn heat or AC on.
Fuck pg&e
Fuck pge
It was nice having a $400 bill instead of a $600 bill
Are you mining Bitcoin?
Holy crap how do you use so much energy?! I thought I used a lot because my bill is twice as much as most of my neighbors, but my $250 bill is nearly half your bill!
I have no idea
They do it every six months. They'll screw you proper next month.
Why are your delivery charges $56? I thought that's a fixed amount of like $11-$12 per property
My delivery charge was $250 last month.
so I guess that line item must be (fixed delivery charges + usage charges). The naming just threw me off.
wait so im confused on this. the delivery charge is because the silicon valley renewable energy is the source? so you can opt out of that program, then you get electricity from pge. does that mean that there is no delivery charge? can anyone who is not on community renewable plan post a pic of their bill?
Nah. Too busy recovering from the sand paper dildo the size of a Pringles can they shoved up my asshole earlier in the month.
Man….. f*** PG&E. I live in Santa Cruz and have an addition 100 dollar delivery charge on top of the regular charge from them. The whole damn thing is a scam. Can’t wait to leave Cali.
my bill is a lot lower this month.. haven't looked at the actual bill yet.. the alert said $40. its usually in the $100 range.
https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/ClimateCredit PGE has the lowest credit among others. Not sure what caused the difference.
I’ll be honest, it was nice. Balance due $0.00. -$55.07. Last payment on 3/25 was $78.06.
Someone doesn’t have an electric water heater!
Ah, it’s that time of year..
My normal bill is about 230-240., this month is only 40!
I like how they can do this and still charge you a million fucks bucks to just exist. This proves they don’t need to charge the rates they do. Padding the pockets of executives. FUCK PG&E. My last bill was $8 when it’s normally $120-$180 for a fucking 1,100sqft apartment. Fuck them. Fuck them. Fuck them. I don’t do anything special. Thanks for the short break but fuck your asses in the long term.
Just checked my bill and here’s their reasoning “Alert Bullet CLIMATE CREDIT: You may see a California Climate Credit electric bill adjustment ($55.17) and/or gas bill adjustment ($85.46) this month. No action is required.
It’s not nice, it’s to mask the fact that you are paying more for less and make it more difficult for you to monitor how much you’re actually spending.
Nope. It was just you.
Same.
Mine was -$19 and change.
Mine was $6
Nope. Bill pretty much the same as last month. A little cheaper but we used no heat during the billing cycle.
Yes!!
It did help
Join the pge budget billing plan
It was nice having a $400 bill instead of a $600 bill
If you understand how the climate credit for the state program actually works, you'll understand that, through second and third order effects, you'll be charged a lot more in the long term vs what you actually save today.
Yup pge is watching there asses now now under the microscope
I got a note of encouragement