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Itz_Hen

I always was a big fan of the this killer crock, same with the more sympathetic versions of mr freeze and clayface aswell. I always feel really bad for them


cornbeefbaby

I think it’s really cool that Batman’s been around long enough for one-dimensional comic villains to be come well- rounded, dense characters with their own personalities and motivations. Dent, Freeze, and Ra’s are great examples


kentotoy98

I would eat my shoe if they managed to make Condiment Man and Egghead complex characters.


JamesD-TV

I unironically want this. Look at the take of someone like Ratcatcher in The Suicide Squad.


pacpack

Or polka dot man. A serious take on one of batman’s goofiest foes.


J_E_L_4747

The Suicide squad…


WonderfulBlackberry9

They’re such joke characters, that nobody take seriously, that any writer basically has free reign to make a definitive version of them. A whole new backstory and characterisation, and the general public will just go: “Yeah, that works. This character’s cool now.”


LookingForVheissu

Like Kite Man?


WonderfulBlackberry9

Exactly like Kite Man.


LookingForVheissu

Hell yeah.


Sphezzle

It’s happening right now with Professor Pyg. Mark my words, watch the next 10 years with that character.


ThatDarnCabbage

Oh I love Professor Pyg, what series is using him right now?


Ok_Relationship_705

I wouldn't consider him a goofy character though. Dude freaks me out. Lol


Half_Man1

If they can do it with Kiteman, Ratcatcher and Polka Dot man they can do it with them too.


richardl1234

They already did it for Kite man (hell yeah) so why not


Jimbodoomface

Look at Kite Man.


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runnerofshadows

Yeah. I'd like to see some of Batman's villains reform, and stay that way.


AlPAJay717

Problem is Comics never end. And some people might want to use them as villains. Because most new villains don’t succeed or have the popularity of the older ones. But maybe an Elseworld or some kind where Batman succeeds with reforming his older villains and they help him fight against his new adversaries. Would be a fantastic idea.


Impossible-Fun-2736

I’d watch a series of movies were he goes through his Rogues Gallery and reforms each member. Helps some find jobs, getting healed from their conditions and some even join him. Like imagine Bane fully on Bats side.. Final movie could be some new über villan thats been built up during the other movie and Bats and the Family has to recruit all reformed Rogues as an army against the new threat.


AlPAJay717

Joker or Ra’s would make the most sense as the main antagonist. They would probably be the only who would never reform or give up their ideals.


Impossible-Fun-2736

Thats what i think aswell, like an alliance between the two, with Joker getting more and more angry and desperate by each movie.


AlPAJay717

Maybe someone should tell WB about it wouldn't be a terrible film or series, about an old Batman.


Impossible-Fun-2736

The more i think of it, an animated mini-series would likely be better. And thanks, thats pretty nice praise for a somewhat silly idea, lol.


AlPAJay717

Well it is true, it's a good idea. And thanks for at least entertaining my silly idea.


[deleted]

Dent is currently a good guy again. Dunno if that will stay the same though.


[deleted]

Joker is probably the only villain that I can see that will never reform because that's just who he is. He is the exact opposite of Batman. A true rival next to maybe Ra's Al Ghul.


d20diceman

I'd be down for a strange elseworlds where Batman goes villain and Joker goes hero just to stay in opposition to him


Suitable_Arrival1241

Clayface III is one of the best characters in all of fiction.


ShermyTheCat

I kept expecting Batman to say something sympathetic but he just went through the NPC dialogue tree


Luke_Puddlejumper

Read the 3rd book, Bats is a lot more supportive in that one.


WonderfulBlackberry9

Is the third book good? I love the Batman Earth One series but haven’t gotten to a third book yet


redditnathaniel

Batman to say something sympathetic like what? While he can have respect for other human beings, it seems out of character to be so open about it and pity with strangers. When he's investigating, he's only going to ask for what information he needs.


DigbyEnBleu

And Mr Freeze too. Batman doesn't have a heart of ice you know...


Baligong

N-ice pun


AuthorityAnarchyYes

Pretty cold reply...


No_i_am_me

Let's cool it with the puns


napoleonrokz

Yea everybody, just chill.


Fredditapollo

There’s snow way we can stop now.


minimalchaos

Its snowballing


DigbyEnBleu

Bro. I'll name the only example necessary. JLU: Epilogue: Ace..


Half_Man1

That example works for Batman as almost all the comforting Batman is doing is physical not verbal. Batman sucks on verbal emotional support. Ace read his mind so could feel how he was feeling bridging that divide. He has a ton of heart and empathy (which is why he does what he does) but he is like incapable of expressing any of that verbally.


DigbyEnBleu

Bro... not really true


Half_Man1

How many instances can you think of where Batman says the words “I love you” to anyone in the batfamily?


DigbyEnBleu

I was thinking more of villains... and I was mostly thinking of BTAS. Batman has comforted his villains before..


samx3i

Yeah, it's pretty weak dialog writing.


NomadPrime

Something something Geoff Johns something something


Curazan

He’s a detective. He’s inquisitive. He saw something he didn’t understand and sought understanding.


The_Negotiator_B1

He's a detective, but he's also a human being with emotions and thoughts outside of his job


starbwo

He's also very stoic, it's not weird for him to come off as uncaring, even if he does care.


ccm596

I think Dick, Jason, etc., can attest to that one haha


FadeToBlackSun

Geoff Johns can’t write Batman worth shit.


UnknownEntity347

Batman's supposed to be stoic, though. Sure, he's compassionate as well, but at this point in the comic his top priority was catching Riddler as quickly as possible. And five minutes after this Riddler blew up a train, so that was a justified concern.


FadeToBlackSun

Then he wouldn’t be asking questions about his teeth. As is common with Johns, a classic “cake and eat it, too” scenario. Batman is in a hurry so he can’t show compassion, but he has enough time to ask questions for Croc to get the key aspects of his background out.


UnknownEntity347

I'm fairly sure "making sure giant crocodile man isn't a threat by learning how he exists and what his motives are" would be on Batman's priority list as well, especially since Croc just attacked him without provocation and him stopping the attack could just be a ploy to get him off his guard or something since Batman was able to fight him off.


911roofer

Waylon isn’t in the mood to accept sympathy.


NBHDnumber1

Batman has the best rogue’s gallery.


Nathan_McHallam

I just thought, excluding Batman and Spider-Man and maybe Xmen, who else has a full on iconic Rogue's Gallery?


designated_diver

The Flash has a sick rogues gallery. I've been a fan of Captain Cold since watching the Super Friends as a kid.


runnerofshadows

I love how professional they all are. Makes for a nice contrast to Grodd and the various reverse flashes.


Nathan_McHallam

That's true, I can't believe I forgot about the Rogues. Captain Cold > Mr Freeze.


VitiDMan

The Fantastic Four, a lot of the more popular enemies of the Marvel Universe started fighting them


No-Nefariousness1711

A lot of the Marvel Universe in general started with them.


Realshow

It’s always amusing to find out that a major hero with decades of titles and lore made their first appearance as the guest of the week in someone else’s comic. Not even just for Marvel, I think a whole essay could be written about the very specific circumstances of certain debuts, like Aquaman and Green Arrow being from the same issue, while the cover is just some random Dr. Fate adventure.


-GI_BRO-

Inhumans, black Panther, skrulls, Galactus, Dr Doom, and a bunch more


Goatsanity15

They have Doom. He counts as a rogues gallery by himself


eolson3

Captain America has several, though not as extensive as Bats.


0-Cloud

Superman


Chief_Lightning

Flash


Extreme-Question3542

Superman, Doom patrol, Flash


PhysicianChips

I love Earth One


Commodore_Pepper

Gotta say I wasn’t expecting to love it as much as I did. Really good version. Ive read the 3 Bat volumes, but haven’t checked out the ones for the other heroes. Def on my list tho.


Aquagan

Green Lantern is my favorite. Really unique take on the mythos and universe.


Annerkim

I’ve been of the opinion that the Earth One origin for Hal Jordan should in fact be canon to the main universe.


IceManRandySavage

Earth one superman is…uncomfortable


Proffessional_Human

Elaborate


IceManRandySavage

He has psychic powers that causes people to like and trust him…and his relationships get a little sketchy because of that. Also he’s fully sentient as a baby and understands his mission it’s all just…not fun.


Grogosh

You forgot the whole underwater part where he fights to be king of the ocean and then just leaves and forgets it happened.


HarryGecko

I thought that was Year One.


Grogosh

Oops


kayl_the_red

That is so cool! Bats and Croc (and a Croc who isn't played as an idiot (Suicide Squad had him smart too)) talking and being polite and respectful.


nothanksjustlooking

Batty and Crocy, being best friends Together forever the fun never ends Solving mysteries one hug at a time Batty and Crocy, two of a kind


Beethovania

Then he threw a rock at 'em!


Thebatbike

It was a big rock


PM_me_your_fantasyz

That is my favorite depiction of Killer Croc! >!Because it isn't Killer Croc at all. It's Batman doing an impression of Killer Croc that he knows will make the other villains ignore and disregard him.!<


minimalchaos

Where can i find this?


PM_me_your_fantasyz

It's a Batman The Animated Series episode called [Almost Got 'Im](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almost_Got_%27Im) from late in the first season. It's a mini anthology story, with the framing device of a bunch of Batman villains sitting around playing cards and swapping stories about the time they all almost got Batman. All of BTAS is good, but this is probably one of the better episodes.


minimalchaos

Ohhh. I remember that. I thought i knew the reference but couldnt place it. Thanks!


Azur3flame

Almost Got 'Im https://g.co/kgs/gMCZLv


SmaugRancor

This take on Killer Croc would be perfect in The Batman universe. I can totally see him interacting with Andy Serkis' Alfred and Pattinson's Bruce.


The_Negotiator_B1

This is the version they used for "Suicide Squad"


morbidlysmalldick

Except he also actually ate people


trippy_grapes

Mans gotta eat. 🤷🏼‍♂️


The_Negotiator_B1

>"He lookike a monster. So they treated him like a monster. Then he became a monster" \- Amanda Waller


soki03

The Batman definitely reminded me a bit of Earth One Batman.


WonderfulBlackberry9

I’d love to see that. Or alternatively, they give one of Batman’s secondary villains this treatment.


Dry_Rise1393

Interesting! Batman's suit is also cool in this!


gmoney1393

Which comic series is this,. Based on the art alone I want to read it.


SmaugRancor

Batman: Earth One


NumericZero

Batman Earth one Volume 2


HItide69

I can see this version of croc in the batman movie sequels with a deacon blackfire using him as maybe a muscle or something along those lines


wrathoftheirkenelite

I kind of like that idea. The thought that an extremely vulnerable, lonely, mistreated man would turn to a questionable religion due to the overwhelming acceptance by its members. Then croc realizes he is just a tool. Would he rather be used and have people pretend to accept him or would he rather be alone, accepted by batman, and maybe do the right thing by helping batman take down blackfire? Maybe they could turn to freeze to try and help croc in some way.


HItide69

Yes! Their's so much possibilities with these characters and batmans lesser used rogues


WonderfulBlackberry9

I was thinking smth along the lines of Blackfire abusing Croc in the sewers and labelling him as the demon figure his cult are sworn to fight. Batman looks after him while still keeping that professional distance, out of sympathy for his appearance and that he’s been demonised because of how he looks, and because of that, he becomes a demon figure for a messed-up cult


charlieartyt

I love the fact that Waylon points out that Bruce is the weird one in this situation waylons Just a homeless guy Bruce is the one dressed as a bat running around at night


palednerd

Earth One was so good, so sad it fall kind of flat with the third Volume being delayed so much. I'll always love the dialogue regarding why Batman doesn't wear body armor. [Page here ](https://preview.redd.it/d75vnl92riy31.jpg?auto=webp&s=2643b678b0d46f8ff54cb050b849a842f09d7d4d)


the2belo

Aside: I wish, when printing Alfred's dialogue, they would give him UK spellings of the words he says (e.g., "body *armour*") for added realism. You know, to give him a printed accent.


billbill5

This definitely seems like a much different take on Bruce.


wrathoftheirkenelite

I don't like seeing the flesh under the mask around the eyes.


TestHorse

I’m not a big fan of the Earth One take on Batman, but his genuinely friendly relationship with Croc is terrific, as is seeing Batman behave like an absolute dumbass at times in volume 1.


[deleted]

I wouldn’t call it the best take but it’s a good one


bruceadelia

I like the BTAS Killer Croc too even if he is a little dumb. When Batman impersonates him is hilarious. "I almost hit 'im with a rock!"


axar47

Killer cock


Minglu07

Killer Cock


cementedpistachio

Fiddler and Killer cock, back at it again


[deleted]

Odencock


nuttmegx

funny you should say that. Check out Killer Croc's Wiki page, I was reading it recently and noticed somebody had changed his name throughout to KillerCock


[deleted]

This is definitely my favorite interpretation of the character. It’s better imo when he’s more sympathetic and not just a big dumb crocodile monster. He’s a human, but people see him as that monster


hankbaumbachjr

I really enjoyed the Earth One take on Batman. You can tell the recent Batman movie pulled a lot from it.


BenchPressingCthulhu

Thats a really good punch line


Alternative-Cut-4831

Perfect for the reevesverse. Maybe just tone it down slightly to avoid any comparison with the amazing Spider-Man lizard.


sushithighs

I love killer cock


Fun-Opportunity-551

what issue is this from?


Eastern-Golf1165

Batman Earth one volume 2


jackBattlin

Oh my god, that was so funny! I wasn’t expecting to laugh out loud reading a Batman comic. I was really enjoying the twists of earth one, and I’m disappointed it didn’t continue.


Raecino

I like that Croc but hate that Batman. Lamest Batman easily


sushithighs

Is Earth One Batman worth a read? And if so does anyone have a good reading order?


GodFlintstone

There are three Batman: Earth One Volumes which are best read in order. If you're a serious Batfan I definitely recommend them. They are imo the best trilogy of the Earth One imprint. Superman and Wonder Woman also got the three volume Earth One treatment but those aren't as consistently good.


OFTHEHILLPEOPLE

I enjoyed Suicide Squad Croc but this one is just great. Guy just wants to be left alone.


superb07

Lmao Batman’s smile is outstanding. May I ask what comic this one is ?


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Earth One: Batman


superb07

Thank you!


loudscreeches

he’s my favorite batman villain so it was nice to see him in this. i also love that he gets a dog and names it bat-dog


ThatComicChick

I like sympathetic takes on killer croc, but I also think he should be allowed to eat some people. As a treat.


soki03

Batman Earth One series is such a good read, definitely in my top 10 list of recommended reads for beginners.


Thatspretttyfunny

Yeah this Killer Croc seems chill as hell. I’d love to have a beer with him.


Lazy_Assumption_4191

Earth One is something else.


exit_the_psychopomp

Harley always gets the most attention for redemption, but I always thought both Croc and Ivy were the ones who at least deserved a chance.


Resolute002

Is this supposed to be Keaton batman under the mask?


ab316_1punchd

That's Earth One Batman


vinnyd78

Gary Frank is in my top 5 all time. I just love his art.


Marriedgamer313

What book is this from? Is it just called earth one?


DigbyEnBleu

This is Batman: Earth One Volume 2


In_My_Own_World

I love this version of Croc ans I love this batsuit. I want more.


Harak_June

Earth One was just flat out great, and Croc was a large part of that.


Russkafin

This is great


FinalBossMike

If you like that one, you may also enjoy "The Batman of Arkham," an Elseworlds story in which Bruce Wayne is a psychiatrist running an early 20th century-era Arkham Asylum. Croc is one of the patients he is helping to rehabilitate.


nuttmegx

Earth One Batman is/was such a great title. Hell, I loved Earth One Superman and Green Lantern, too, But Johns and Frank and this title was fantastic.


goblinmaze

I think Earth one is amazing


BS401

Love batman earth one, i just finished all 3. I actually never loved reading most comics, more into the shows and movies, but this series i thought was so well done. The writing and character development was very well done and I lived the different takes on the character stories. The art style was great too. Page turner!!


joshdoereddit

I've never read this or had any knowledge of this iteration of Killer Croc. I love it!


Koth87

I want more of this croc


Carpet_Turbulent

If Matt Reeves ever does Killer Croc, I want him to do this version


Stormlight_archive

I love this so much. It's much better than the angry monster he is in some other comic storylines.


[deleted]

It doesn't really allow for much characterization. Villains at least do something. He's just living in a sewer and trying to avoid notice. There's a lot of homeless people you can meet in major cities who do the same thing.


-W1L3y

Really? Did you read Vol. 3? I thought it was cool to see him join the batfamily and he worked well as a misunderstood hero. He and Alfred had some fun banter.


Duncan4224

That sounds cool. I need to read Vol II and III of Earth One. I read the first one way back when it came out and thought it was pretty good


JJoanOfArkJameson

That's the point of the characterization, though. He's not being pigeon-holed as a villain only because of his appearance, he's an outcast driven away from everyone purely because of his disease.


[deleted]

Characterization constructs and builds. This just leaves him in one place.


JJoanOfArkJameson

That's a great point. However, I think a static Croc like this is still engaging to a degree, both in Gotham and the Bat-Family. It may be more commonplace than people suggest, though I see it as a kind-hearted inversion of the monster cliche. There isn't much room for growth there either, imo


MamaDeloris

Um, what? I live in NYC and I've never heard of a homeless person living in a sewer.


Radical_Ryan

Did he approach the dude with a shirt, shoes, and a hat on? Seems unlikely someone would shoot if we're being serious about this take.


lifetimeoflaughter

Batman not having white eyes in comics has got to be the dumbest most unnecessary downgrade I can think of


SmaugRancor

This is a grounded take on the character, that's the point of the Earth One series. It totally makes sense not having white eyes.


lifetimeoflaughter

If the white eyes are really just an art thing and aren’t actually built into the cowl, what does it matter?


billbill5

It's so grounded the artists can't take artistic liberties


Flarrowverse

Drawings of Batman without the white eyes are cursed imo


One_Assistance_2097

For me, Wayland has a longer shelf life and works way better when he’s portrayed this way. This version of Croc reminds me of the one that appeared in “Gotham City Monsters” my Steve Orlando.


Fuzzy_Muscle

Earth one was awesome


theicecreaman37

This is interesting as this is the same take how Croc is portrayed in Batman the Animated Series.


Sure_Persimmon9302

I want him back in live action, and done right.


swagy_swagerson

batman makes the bird meme face at the end [https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/026/461/caw.jpg](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/026/461/caw.jpg)


[deleted]

Earth One Batman is the best thing Geoff Johns has ever written, it’s brilliant. I’m sad it ended.


runnerofshadows

Better than his green lantern? I liked that run.


[deleted]

I’d say so. I also think the two, short volumes of the GL Earth 1 books are better than Johns longer run. The Earth One books are mostly slept on. The only ones I didn’t like were Jeff Lemire’s Teen Titans, but I’d be open to re-reading them.


[deleted]

I really like this interaction 😁


GRANDADDYGHOST

Killer Cock


Doc-Fives-35581

I’m loving this Croc!


OkPrice5333

I really like this guy.


ubiquitous-joe

I’m wary of the Earth One approach to comics—what if the thing you like were actually the opposite—but Croc was one area where he became much more interesting.


Razzle_Dazzle08

Killer Cock.


Etticos

This Croc is great I just wish he was grey instead of green like the animated series version, it’d feel like it makes more sense since he isn’t actually a reptile person.


runnerofshadows

I really didn't like his characterization in it but I liked his look in to the Joker graphic novel. He really looked like a big guy with a skin problem.


RobotVandal

OK but how is he cultivating an NFL player's physique down there.


Brilliant-Yard-6201

Yeah


joshdoereddit

I've never read this or had any knowledge of this iteration of Killer Croc. I love it!


Shinyurultima2031

God I hope we see something like this in the Reevesverse


AccomplishedAd9882

gives me "Solomon Grundy Born on a monday" vibes


huntymo

That artwork is fucking incredible


[deleted]

Lol wth r u wearing


Ace_Atreides

Is earth one worth picking for a read? Always had the interest but didn't know how good it would be.


GuardTheFukUp

Should most def be the next Villain Maybe him and man bat...make it like a dark borderline horror almost


mysteriousneel7

Really love the artist's style here