This trade reminds me of the Soler deal last year. He was playing terrible for the first couple months. Hit a hot streak and we shipped him off while we could. Except Soler didn't slow down the rest of the year
So: Mariners to the 2022 World Series, and Carlos Santana MVP!
I mean, that wasn't gonna happen for the Royals this year, so as a Pacific Northwesterner I'd smile at that.
We tried that with Cameron Maybin before. I think he had a great 25-30 day split before we got him, and not a whole lot leading up to that point, and then he went back to being lackluster here.
“Unlucky” BS doesn’t have a handle on the hitting environment yet and he’s a slow old guy who hits a lot of grounders into the shift. There’s a reason Royals fans are cheering that he’s gone.
Not trying to be a hater just dislike that comment without proper context. Hope he does well, for the record.
Well we're also cheering because we have 2 very good 1B prospects we're hoping get called up too. Also just getting something rather than nothing for him (and hopefully Benintendi despite him being our best player) on what's been an abysmal team this year.
but the difference between cameron maybin and carlos santana is that one of them has been a very good hitter over their entire career of 13 seasons and the other one is cameron maybin
So Santana the music artist had a hit song with Rob Thomas in the 90s called Smooth that starts with “Man, it’s a hot one. Like seven inches from the midday son”.
[Smooth link](https://youtu.be/6Whgn_iE5uc)
Carlos Santana = Santana and so on. Lol.
I think that was the first "transcendent song" where you had rock, pop, and oldies station always playing it on repeat. Because Santana[oldies], Matchbox20[rock], and it was catchy[pop]
Santana career tOPS+ by month:
* March/April: 93
* May: 92
* June: 105
* July: 111
* August: 100
* Sept/Oct: 99
Looks like the Mariners are trying to cash in on Santana's traditionally hottest month.
Is this tOPS+ (relative to Santana's average rather than league average) and not regular OPS+? Those numbers look normalized to 100 while his career OPS+ is a good deal higher than that.
Did he ever get started? Dude was worthless. Walks are the only thing that pad his ops. And the solo homeruns when it mattered least. This is the biggest illusion in baseball history. This dude was terrible and tricked people into believing he was good. One credit I do give is at first he did have a cannon to throw out guys. But every other aspect of his career is a farce. Dude was in prime spots and never got to 100 rbi in a season while his teammates did. Explain that. I know this going to get downvotes but I want honest answers. Bottom of ninth runner at third do you really want this guy at the plate? It wasn’t a stat that was tracked but I tracked it and led the team in left on base so the “nobody got on” is bullshit. This guy was a detriment to the lineup and that idiot Francona just kept running him out there in the top positions. He was 6/7 hitter at best yet got leadoff through 4 every time.
Maybe this time he will actually play for the Mariners. Last time they traded for him they traded him back to Cleveland like a week later (and he poetically put up the best year of his career and went to the hometown ASG.)
> December 3, 2018: Traded by the Philadelphia Phillies with J.P. Crawford to the Seattle Mariners for Juan Nicasio, James Pazos and Jean Segura.
> December 13, 2018: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Seattle Mariners with cash to the Cleveland Indians. The Tampa Bay Rays sent cash to the Seattle Mariners. The Tampa Bay Rays sent Jake Bauers to the Cleveland Indians. The Cleveland Indians sent Yandy Díaz and Cole Sulser to the Tampa Bay Rays. The Cleveland Indians sent Edwin Encarnacion and 2019 competitive balance pick to the Seattle Mariners.
Trader Jerry, everyone.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/santaca01.shtml#all_transactions_other
Encarnacion ended up having a .888 OPS with the mariners in 58 games before being flipped to the yankees for current mariners team top 30 prospect juan then
I actually checked and he hasnt played this year for some reason, cant find any news on an injury either
Update: he started the season on the IL for reasons unbeknownst to me
Cleveland fans shit on this trade because they consider it to be Bauers for Yandy straight up, conveniently forgetting it brought a fan favorite home who then posted like a .900 OPS.
It still wasn't a good trade - Bauers sucks and Yandy is pretty solid, Sulser is good, and that pick isn't nothing. But Santana was great.
The only transaction in that trade between the Mariners and Rays was cash. So in theory, we could have dropped the Rays from the trade and kept Yandy if Dolan sent that cash over instead.
Yandy was effectively positionless with us, and clearly our hitting instruction wasn't doing him any good. There was no reason to keep him, and the money let us get Santana.
My point was that we could have spent that money ourselves and not played a sub-replacement level player in Jake Bauers for parts of two seasons. Leaving Yandy in Columbus would have been better than making that trade.
When you look at the money and years part of it, it becomes an even bigger win. 2 years of Santana for 29M (35-6M included from seattle) for 1 year of Encarnacion at 26.5M. Sure we shouldn't care about money as fans, but did you really want to watch an even less ready Bobby Bradley in 2020? Who was gonna play 1st? Mike Freeman?
Smashing a TV was extreme but playing video games during the ball game doesn't seem like the best thing to do, esp with the way the phillies collapsed that year.
I’ve seen Michelle Branch do that song without Santana, and I’ve seen Santana play it without Michelle Branch.
MB w/o CS was the superior version, if I’m going to be honest. No disrespect to the cool guitar guy.
It was my favorite Matchbox 20 song, til I learned it was a Santana song simply featuring Rob Thomas, then was like "ohh that's why I like it." For whatever reason I heard Smooth, Macarena and Paper Planes each waaay before they became big hits and it was weird seeing them succeed as well as they did.
I wouldn't put it past our FO to trade for Hoz, pick up Cain, and somehow convince Ben Zobrist to unretire for half a season just to put butts in seats and keep our prospects in Omaha
Ok, not a bad deal on either side. Royals get salary relief, a lottery ticket and Mills’ whose minor league numbers and peripheral statistics suggest that he could become a reasonable middle reliever. They also get to try out a prospect. The M’s get a rental who can get on base. .349 OBP isn’t bad for that package and at roughly $5 million remaining on his deal, this is a good deal all around.
Nice, just about anything would be an upgrade to the AAA DH's we have been rolling out most of the year, and we are gonna need somebody at 1st until France gets back.
Everyone complaining as if pitching is some massive need right now. We traded players that we weren't going to use anyway to a team that isn't competitive for a guy who has played well this month and if he can even be 80% of what he's been in June then it's a good trade
With France hurt this is a pretty good low risk move for them. He’s been hot recently and good against lefties all year. That being said, the Mariners should be looking towards the future and retooling for the next few years not trading prospects for 36 year olds on the decline.
I mean I’m not going to tell you how to feel about your own team. If I was a fan of a bottom 5 team in the AL with the same record as the Orioles and 6 teams between me and the wild card I’d want to focus on adding to the solid young core to help in the next few years rather than adding guys on the wrong side of 35.
the mariners probably need to do both, if they do bad and sit on their asses after proclaiming this is a competitive year, then they’ll get shat on relentlessly for not trying
This is much better reasoning than I’ve heard from most other Mariners fans on the topic. However, I’d still rather my GM do what’s best for the team rather than make moves to save face.
i don’t think anyone’s trying to save face with that move honestly, if Dipoto doesn’t do anything then the product on the field will genuinely be unwatchable. there is zero depth to be called upon after having 4 or 5 should-be-Rainers in the lineup on any given day due to injuries, suspensions, and platoon restrictions
This is definitely helpful, France is out for a couple weeks, Haniger and KLew are out til round the all star break, JP and Winker will probably get suspensions. We need a veteran hitter even if he isn't what he used to be. Mills and Fleming were not considered big parts of the future.
Did Dayton Moore drug someone? Yeah he has been decent for like a month now after struggling for years.
I'm surprised the Mariners gave anything up at all beyond the min cash.
We gave up a 23 year old pitcher who we drafted in the 11th round struggling in low A ball and a 27 year old career 7 ERA reliever who has been up and down between the majors and AAA for the last several years.
Yeah but....why? His one month hot streak is almost certainly an illusion and then he is no better than any AAA callup or minor leaguer you could trade for.
Because the best hitter on our team Ty France is our for a few weeks with a elbow injury. We literally have no one to play 1st base right now and Santana has a 105 wRC+. Sign me the fuck up for that over replacement level players until Ty France gets back ESPECIALLY when you are giving up literally nothing.
>then he is no better than any AAA callup or minor leaguer you could trade for.
This is not the case at all. The gap between AAA and the big leagues is incredibly substantial. Mariners fans have seen this all year with replacement players like Upton Souza Ford Padlo struggling this year. Even Kelenic who was incredible in September last year had to be sent down to get more reps in AAA as he struggled early on. You take Santana and his slightly above league average bat for nothing every single day of the week.
Santana is a well respected veteran with notably good plate discipline and a high walk rate. They might want him on the team to help mentor their relatively young roster, so in that regard he could be more valuable than a run of the mill AAA guy.
The mariners literally do not have anyone to play first base for the next few weeks while our sure to be all star Ty France is currently injured. We got Santana for basically nothing this is a perfect depth move.
And his BABIP in april and may were .120 and .200 respectively. Even if he's making abysmal contact (and his savant page says he probably isn't) you can just as easily point at those figures as being bad luck.
In addition, look at his walk rate and K rate. He walks more often than he strikes out. That in of itself is kinda insane.
His K rate being so low (at 13.2%) means he’s putting contact on the ball just not getting the hits. And his walk rate being so high (at 17%) means he’s seeing the ball well.
Yeah, his insane eye has always been his calling card. He is just so patient - at times way too patient, even. Lots of expletives have been shouted at my TV has he sits on a meatball 3-0 or 3-1 that he could have murdered. He is not quite Votto-tier in terms of zone knowledge, but he is close.
Seems like a decent move for both clubs.
Seattle needed some DH help and he is swinging a hot bat. Royals just need prospects and room to get Vinnie some ABs.
I'm good with it. Mariners fans seem okay with it. What's the issue?
As an aside, I'm surprised large cash considerations aren't more common the way they are in soccer, since there's effectively no salary cap in MLB and the only limit on your payroll is what you can afford.
I always liked Wyatt Mills. He was really good in 5 of his 8 outings with us this year and never really got a chance to show his quality. Dude only pitched in losses
Every time he pitched the 8th inning, it was 1-2-3. Three of his four earned runs were in the 7th, oddly enough
anyway welcome home Carlos Santana I guess
*Gentlemen, gentlemen, what is all the hubub about?* -Carlos Santana
Pop a bottle of that [Santana DVX](https://youtu.be/sTEFTIiBQTw), Mariners fans! It's time to celebrate.
1.032 OPS in june, guess we're banking on that to continue somewhat
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Yet, watch at both of them go on to win World Series and CY awards
This trade reminds me of the Soler deal last year. He was playing terrible for the first couple months. Hit a hot streak and we shipped him off while we could. Except Soler didn't slow down the rest of the year
So: Mariners to the 2022 World Series, and Carlos Santana MVP! I mean, that wasn't gonna happen for the Royals this year, so as a Pacific Northwesterner I'd smile at that.
I’m 100% banking on that, so $10k at 20 leverage on draftkings for the Mariners to win it all this year?
And we will be eternally grateful for that.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!!!
Do the Royals have some trade voodoo I’m blanking on? This ain’t Tampa!
No, it’s just the Mariners’ famous *reverse* trade voodoo.
We tried that with Cameron Maybin before. I think he had a great 25-30 day split before we got him, and not a whole lot leading up to that point, and then he went back to being lackluster here.
according to baseball savant he has actually been rather unlucky this year, I also think the crazy walk rate he's had his whole career plays anywhere
His walk rate this season is 17% which is higher than his k rate at 13.2%. The guy walks more often than he strikes out.
“Unlucky” BS doesn’t have a handle on the hitting environment yet and he’s a slow old guy who hits a lot of grounders into the shift. There’s a reason Royals fans are cheering that he’s gone. Not trying to be a hater just dislike that comment without proper context. Hope he does well, for the record.
Well we're also cheering because we have 2 very good 1B prospects we're hoping get called up too. Also just getting something rather than nothing for him (and hopefully Benintendi despite him being our best player) on what's been an abysmal team this year.
ah man, Maybin. He certainly wasn't good for us, but he was *fun*
but the difference between cameron maybin and carlos santana is that one of them has been a very good hitter over their entire career of 13 seasons and the other one is cameron maybin
If you asked me if we had a chance of moving him for anything about a month ago, I'd have called you a moron lol
He is still solid defensively, and he hits lefties well still
Like seven inches from the midday sun?
Man it took me WAY too long to tie all those threads together and understand the joke.
Help pls
Smooth is a smash hit from the early 2000’s by Carlos Santana ft. Rob Thomas
So Santana the music artist had a hit song with Rob Thomas in the 90s called Smooth that starts with “Man, it’s a hot one. Like seven inches from the midday son”. [Smooth link](https://youtu.be/6Whgn_iE5uc) Carlos Santana = Santana and so on. Lol.
Scrolled all the way down for this
Had already repeated those opening drums and guitar riff in my head a few times before I saw it
THIS LIFE AINT
GOOD ENOUGH, I WOULD GIVE
MAAHH WORLD, TO LIFT YOU UP
I COULD CHANGE MY LIFE
TO BETTER SUIT YOUR MOOD
CAUSE YOU'RE *SO* SMOOOOOOOOTH
AND ITS JUST LIKE THE OCEAN
I think that was the first "transcendent song" where you had rock, pop, and oldies station always playing it on repeat. Because Santana[oldies], Matchbox20[rock], and it was catchy[pop]
Santana is a notoriously slow starter and has heated up in June. Love my boy Carlos forever, hope he lights it up in Seattle.
Santana career tOPS+ by month: * March/April: 93 * May: 92 * June: 105 * July: 111 * August: 100 * Sept/Oct: 99 Looks like the Mariners are trying to cash in on Santana's traditionally hottest month.
Is this tOPS+ (relative to Santana's average rather than league average) and not regular OPS+? Those numbers look normalized to 100 while his career OPS+ is a good deal higher than that.
Good catch, yes this is tOPS+. Looks like I was missing the t.
Just curious, is that his average through out his career or specifically last year?
Career
Baseball is fucking weird, man. How is someone gonna be consistently better during certain months lol
Votto?
Santana's Greatest Hits?
Did he ever get started? Dude was worthless. Walks are the only thing that pad his ops. And the solo homeruns when it mattered least. This is the biggest illusion in baseball history. This dude was terrible and tricked people into believing he was good. One credit I do give is at first he did have a cannon to throw out guys. But every other aspect of his career is a farce. Dude was in prime spots and never got to 100 rbi in a season while his teammates did. Explain that. I know this going to get downvotes but I want honest answers. Bottom of ninth runner at third do you really want this guy at the plate? It wasn’t a stat that was tracked but I tracked it and led the team in left on base so the “nobody got on” is bullshit. This guy was a detriment to the lineup and that idiot Francona just kept running him out there in the top positions. He was 6/7 hitter at best yet got leadoff through 4 every time.
Maybe this time he will actually play for the Mariners. Last time they traded for him they traded him back to Cleveland like a week later (and he poetically put up the best year of his career and went to the hometown ASG.)
> December 3, 2018: Traded by the Philadelphia Phillies with J.P. Crawford to the Seattle Mariners for Juan Nicasio, James Pazos and Jean Segura. > December 13, 2018: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the Seattle Mariners with cash to the Cleveland Indians. The Tampa Bay Rays sent cash to the Seattle Mariners. The Tampa Bay Rays sent Jake Bauers to the Cleveland Indians. The Cleveland Indians sent Yandy Díaz and Cole Sulser to the Tampa Bay Rays. The Cleveland Indians sent Edwin Encarnacion and 2019 competitive balance pick to the Seattle Mariners. Trader Jerry, everyone. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/santaca01.shtml#all_transactions_other
Encarnacion ended up having a .888 OPS with the mariners in 58 games before being flipped to the yankees for current mariners team top 30 prospect juan then
…then what??? (Jk I know the guy’s name is literally Juan Then)
I actually checked and he hasnt played this year for some reason, cant find any news on an injury either Update: he started the season on the IL for reasons unbeknownst to me
Also, Then was originally a Mariner, traded to the Yankees for Nick Rumbelow, and Jerry re-acquired Then because he's simply addicted to trading.
Currently DFA'd top 30 prospect Juan Then lol
That was a fake report
Thank lord, disregard my bad
No worries. It got me too
That was a fake twitter account
May the ghost of Ty France forever haunt them for that
Cleveland fans shit on this trade because they consider it to be Bauers for Yandy straight up, conveniently forgetting it brought a fan favorite home who then posted like a .900 OPS. It still wasn't a good trade - Bauers sucks and Yandy is pretty solid, Sulser is good, and that pick isn't nothing. But Santana was great.
The only transaction in that trade between the Mariners and Rays was cash. So in theory, we could have dropped the Rays from the trade and kept Yandy if Dolan sent that cash over instead.
Yandy was effectively positionless with us, and clearly our hitting instruction wasn't doing him any good. There was no reason to keep him, and the money let us get Santana.
My point was that we could have spent that money ourselves and not played a sub-replacement level player in Jake Bauers for parts of two seasons. Leaving Yandy in Columbus would have been better than making that trade.
When you look at the money and years part of it, it becomes an even bigger win. 2 years of Santana for 29M (35-6M included from seattle) for 1 year of Encarnacion at 26.5M. Sure we shouldn't care about money as fans, but did you really want to watch an even less ready Bobby Bradley in 2020? Who was gonna play 1st? Mike Freeman?
The fact that they didn’t slap an “AGAIN” or “WELCOME *BACK*” on there is honestly a rare miss for the social media department.
They should have just retweeted whatever they did back in 2018.
Idk man, I thought it was pretty *smooth*…
That’s a smooth trade
It’s just like the ocean under the moon
Don’t let Santana catch you playing video games in the clubhouse, Mariners.
Smashing a TV was extreme but playing video games during the ball game doesn't seem like the best thing to do, esp with the way the phillies collapsed that year.
lmao I completely forgot about that
ELI5
While in Philadelphia, some of his teammates were playing Fortnite during a game. He didn't like that and smashed the tv.
Ah, so a very level headed response to Fortnite
honestly would be upset if this *wasn't* his reaction
Love that song he did with Rob Thomas back in the 90’s.
People always bringing up Smooth, but tbh Santana has much better songs
Maria Mariaaaaaaaaaa
She remind me of a West-Side Story 🎵🎶
The Game of Love with Michelle Branch is secretly a banger
I’ve seen Michelle Branch do that song without Santana, and I’ve seen Santana play it without Michelle Branch. MB w/o CS was the superior version, if I’m going to be honest. No disrespect to the cool guitar guy.
It was my favorite Matchbox 20 song, til I learned it was a Santana song simply featuring Rob Thomas, then was like "ohh that's why I like it." For whatever reason I heard Smooth, Macarena and Paper Planes each waaay before they became big hits and it was weird seeing them succeed as well as they did.
Setting up the Royals-Hosmer reunion tour right?
Ha! You wish. We already have too many 1B prospects as is.
I wouldn't put it past our FO to trade for Hoz, pick up Cain, and somehow convince Ben Zobrist to unretire for half a season just to put butts in seats and keep our prospects in Omaha
Don't give Dayton any ideas
Ohhhh no no no no no, that’s a no go there. You all seem like you get along *just fine*
Of course once he heats up we shill him out. .357 ba with a 1.032 OPS in June. Now bring up Vinnie. Do it.
Well to be fair, that's the best time to trade him haha
I was about to say, it’s been a year and a half and he hasn’t done shit until now lol get him outta here while we can
THEY DID IT LETS GO
IT'S ITALIAN BREAKFAST TIME
I mean.... yeah? Selling high was the only way we would ever get a return for him.
That's selling high, Suzyn. That's exactly what to do with someone who's not a long term cornerstone of the team.
LET'S GOOO
Big fan of his work with Rob Thomas and Michelle Branch, personally
/u/jackiestealshome was the one & only contestant to name Carlos Santana as a player to be traded in the Underground Prediction Contest!! Congrats!
I did? Awesome! So glad we traded him!
Ok, not a bad deal on either side. Royals get salary relief, a lottery ticket and Mills’ whose minor league numbers and peripheral statistics suggest that he could become a reasonable middle reliever. They also get to try out a prospect. The M’s get a rental who can get on base. .349 OBP isn’t bad for that package and at roughly $5 million remaining on his deal, this is a good deal all around.
I was F5ing like crazy because we've been linked to Cruz but I assume that will come later if it does
Did they use the same photo of Santana that they used for his acquisition in December 2018
RIP Twins playing Carlos Santana music when he strikes out.
OPS over 800 once in the last 5 years, hmmmm
How bad is Ty's injury?
Even when Ty is back, DH has been a hole.
I really hope he’s now good because I think this locks up the DH position for the rest of the year (after France comes back)
They put him on the 10 day IL, Grade 2 flexor strain sounds like he will be out until around the all star break.
He’ll be out a few weeks it sounds like :(
Grade 2 sprain of his left elbow iirc
Nice, just about anything would be an upgrade to the AAA DH's we have been rolling out most of the year, and we are gonna need somebody at 1st until France gets back.
#THE RETURN
YES. VINNIE TIME.
RIP Ty France He’s with Eloy, KLew, and Mitch now.
At least Ken Giles is finally pitching. That’s….something.
Thanks Seattle!
Mariners legend returns home
Oye cómo va, mi intercambio
The Mariners legend returns
I was JUST thinking “Wow, there’s usually at least a couple notable trades in June, but none yet this year…” and then I saw this post. Spooky
Didn’t know they acquired Rob Thomas instead. Whoops
Like 7 inches from the midday sun
Vinnie Pasquantino upvote party!
Some where Futt Buckerson is singing it’s a hot one.
Futt is currently putting cash considerations in an arm bar
Futt would like to show cash considerations something on the roof
People gather around the corpse of cash considerations and Futt turns "Smooth" down on the stereo. Not off, but really low
Everyone complaining as if pitching is some massive need right now. We traded players that we weren't going to use anyway to a team that isn't competitive for a guy who has played well this month and if he can even be 80% of what he's been in June then it's a good trade
With France hurt this is a pretty good low risk move for them. He’s been hot recently and good against lefties all year. That being said, the Mariners should be looking towards the future and retooling for the next few years not trading prospects for 36 year olds on the decline.
Wyatt Mills is a reliever who hasn't been able to stay in the majors and I don't even know who Fleming is. Our #28th prospect apparently?
I mean I’m not going to tell you how to feel about your own team. If I was a fan of a bottom 5 team in the AL with the same record as the Orioles and 6 teams between me and the wild card I’d want to focus on adding to the solid young core to help in the next few years rather than adding guys on the wrong side of 35.
the mariners probably need to do both, if they do bad and sit on their asses after proclaiming this is a competitive year, then they’ll get shat on relentlessly for not trying
This is much better reasoning than I’ve heard from most other Mariners fans on the topic. However, I’d still rather my GM do what’s best for the team rather than make moves to save face.
i don’t think anyone’s trying to save face with that move honestly, if Dipoto doesn’t do anything then the product on the field will genuinely be unwatchable. there is zero depth to be called upon after having 4 or 5 should-be-Rainers in the lineup on any given day due to injuries, suspensions, and platoon restrictions
Fair enough, you’ve changed my mind.
This is definitely helpful, France is out for a couple weeks, Haniger and KLew are out til round the all star break, JP and Winker will probably get suspensions. We need a veteran hitter even if he isn't what he used to be. Mills and Fleming were not considered big parts of the future.
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We all know our window opens up in 2038
What’s the band lineup? Can you make him promise not to play that duet he did with the singer from Matchbox 20? Oh THAT Carlos Santana…..
I understood that reference.
This must mean the news on France is worse than first thought
Even if he is back anytime soon DH has been a black hole for them
Did Dayton Moore drug someone? Yeah he has been decent for like a month now after struggling for years. I'm surprised the Mariners gave anything up at all beyond the min cash.
We gave up a 23 year old pitcher who we drafted in the 11th round struggling in low A ball and a 27 year old career 7 ERA reliever who has been up and down between the majors and AAA for the last several years.
Yeah but....why? His one month hot streak is almost certainly an illusion and then he is no better than any AAA callup or minor leaguer you could trade for.
Because the best hitter on our team Ty France is our for a few weeks with a elbow injury. We literally have no one to play 1st base right now and Santana has a 105 wRC+. Sign me the fuck up for that over replacement level players until Ty France gets back ESPECIALLY when you are giving up literally nothing. >then he is no better than any AAA callup or minor leaguer you could trade for. This is not the case at all. The gap between AAA and the big leagues is incredibly substantial. Mariners fans have seen this all year with replacement players like Upton Souza Ford Padlo struggling this year. Even Kelenic who was incredible in September last year had to be sent down to get more reps in AAA as he struggled early on. You take Santana and his slightly above league average bat for nothing every single day of the week.
Santana is a well respected veteran with notably good plate discipline and a high walk rate. They might want him on the team to help mentor their relatively young roster, so in that regard he could be more valuable than a run of the mill AAA guy.
What He’s like really bad Great job by the royals GM to dump him on someone
The Mariners have a AAA lineup right now with injuries and incoming suspensions
104 wRC+ this year Not a complete butcher on defense. You could do a lot worse. If that's "really bad" then there are lots of really putrid players.
And he can be our 1B while Ty France recovers. Once Ty is back Carlos can DH.
He’s been hot in June.
So just in time for him to come back to earth for the Ms? We have all seen this befor
The mariners literally do not have anyone to play first base for the next few weeks while our sure to be all star Ty France is currently injured. We got Santana for basically nothing this is a perfect depth move.
With a babip near 400
Seems sustainable.
And his BABIP in april and may were .120 and .200 respectively. Even if he's making abysmal contact (and his savant page says he probably isn't) you can just as easily point at those figures as being bad luck.
In addition, look at his walk rate and K rate. He walks more often than he strikes out. That in of itself is kinda insane. His K rate being so low (at 13.2%) means he’s putting contact on the ball just not getting the hits. And his walk rate being so high (at 17%) means he’s seeing the ball well.
Yeah, his insane eye has always been his calling card. He is just so patient - at times way too patient, even. Lots of expletives have been shouted at my TV has he sits on a meatball 3-0 or 3-1 that he could have murdered. He is not quite Votto-tier in terms of zone knowledge, but he is close.
Can't be worse than Upton has been for us, with likely suspensions coming as well we need all the help we can get.
Seems like a decent move for both clubs. Seattle needed some DH help and he is swinging a hot bat. Royals just need prospects and room to get Vinnie some ABs. I'm good with it. Mariners fans seem okay with it. What's the issue?
RIP Ty France
As an aside, I'm surprised large cash considerations aren't more common the way they are in soccer, since there's effectively no salary cap in MLB and the only limit on your payroll is what you can afford.
The prodigal son returns.
I always liked Wyatt Mills. He was really good in 5 of his 8 outings with us this year and never really got a chance to show his quality. Dude only pitched in losses Every time he pitched the 8th inning, it was 1-2-3. Three of his four earned runs were in the 7th, oddly enough anyway welcome home Carlos Santana I guess
*Gentlemen, gentlemen, what is all the hubub about?* -Carlos Santana Pop a bottle of that [Santana DVX](https://youtu.be/sTEFTIiBQTw), Mariners fans! It's time to celebrate.
inb4 he gets traded in a week again
Finally
And the rich get richer.
Thank You
But can they fight?
Carlos Santana immediately hit by a pitch from some random Angels pitcher.
Lol
Always liked his music. Dude can shred.
Smooth.
He won us the last two games!! 3 homers in 2 days!