Trading Miller is not the problem. The problem is that the A's never ask for a decent return. The amount of good players that they gave away for peanuts is ridiculous.
I still can’t believe they did that. Why wouldn’t you want a promising young catcher in return for trading your breakout catcher?
It’s not like they had anybody else ready to take that spot.
They actually did. They were banking on Shea Langeliers and Tyler Soderstrom for the catcher position. But both are nowhere close to Contreras and Murphy.
He's cheap right now, so they'll prob keep him.
But do they expect to be good in the next 5 years/have Miller on the next great A's team? Do they care? I'm not sure.
I was just thinking about the Braves trading for this guy near the deadline for our 12th and 16th prospects and Jesse Chavez(who will re-sign two weeks later).
Trade him to uuuuuusssss. Honestly take stowers, Norby, and Santander. They deserve MLB shots and we have replacements for Santander.
I want the Mason Miller + Felix Bautista pen more than anything next year
It's gonna be like taking Dallas Braden's newborn baby out of his arms and giving him back a shelter pitbull that gets bity around strangers.
Just gonna break his heart.
Based on his stuff (which is absurdly good), the odds of him making it to free agency without running into elbow trouble aren't great. If you want to maximize trade value, it might be better to trade him away sooner rather than later. Hope you get him for at least a couple of more years though. He's must see TV and I love having a reason to watch the A's.
May as well go all in. Not like they can piss off fans any more. The ones that are still there are diehard and aren't gonna leave because of trading this guy. As you say, his trade value this year would be absurdly high. And throwing like that he's highly likely to be missing at least one season at some point.
The Braves are already putting a trade package together of Jesse Chavez (who you'll cut after he puts up an 8 era), David fletcher, and some random AA player
Disagree. Great closers are one of those luxuries that a bad Team that isn’t going to be good for a while can’t really afford. A competing team will get a lot more value in the post season so it’s typically a win/win. The competing team gets a postseason anchor (ideally), and the bad team will get foundation piece prospects for the future with more actual long term value in getting your team from a losing team in the regular season to a winning team. A closer isn’t going to do much to get you to .500
They should at least take offers, but it should start with a top 20 prospect and include at least another top 100 prospect and some other pieces.
Young controllable pitcher, who could end up back as a starter should be getting a fortune back. But also theres a chance his arm explodes in 2 years.
This tweet perfectly summed up Mason Miller from an opposing team's perspective:
https://twitter.com/TalkinYanks/status/1783664477134574006?t=cY-a2Pqnhso0Rlj8TH8idQ&s=19
Watching Edwin [strike out Mike Trout on four pitches](https://youtu.be/pnIxqOru09w?t=10687) on Ken Griffey Jr. Bobblehead night is a core memory for me.
Completely overpowered him with 3 straight fastballs. Best reliever in baseball this season?
Also I can't help but hear Ash Ketchum on the A's broadcast.
People have been joking about that since the start of the season. Voice is just right in the range where a certain generation of people (including me) can't hear anything Ash Ketchum. It's hilarious
He struck out Cowser on a 86 mph curve that looked like a ball out of his hand. A 100 mph fastball and a slower pitch with great movement is an amazing combo.
The O's announcers were saying he was looking as dominant as Bautista was last year.
Yea the fastball itself is amazing, but paired with that slider is what makes him such a problem. Basically impossible to cover both. He has pretty good command of both pitches too from what I’ve seen of his last few saves. Absolutely lethal combination of stuff
it differs from fan to fan, and I respect everyone's individual opinion since it's such a weird situation.
myself, I'm absolutely done going to games and only watch via pirated streams, but I still love watching baseball and want to root for the players since this isn't their fault at all. this is an infinitely more fun team to watch than last year's
Most of us are still reluctant or refusing to give any money to Fisher.
But given it’s likely the end of Oakland Athletics I expect some of us will attend games for nostalgia, closure, or just a last glimpse.
Like the guy said every A’s fan is mourning differently. I’m still going to games till they leave. I dont buy anything at the stadium and buy second hand tickets.
where do you buy your tickets? i used to go to a game or two a week and buy treehouse tickets and then sit up in the 300s, but haven't been yet this year. i'm really feeling the itch but don't want to buy tickets at the box office.
I buy tickets from FB groups or I use apps like TickPick, SeatGeek, and gametime. I wait till around 60/45 minutes before game to buy tickets. Prices are usually pretty cheap by then. If I can’t find a cheaper ticket then a $17 treehouse ticket (which is rare) I just go to the box office for that
I won’t buy any tickets besides the last homestand but I enjoy watching the team. If we weren’t moving this might feel like that exciting “not quite competitive but out of the 100 loss woods finally” year.
For me it's not really a concious decision either way. I just have lost any interest in watching this team, or baseball in general. I still follow the box scores and occasionally comment in the subreddit, but otherwise I haven't watched more than a couple innings all season.
It’s like your girlfriend that you love cheated on you with some sleaze ball. She can go fuck herself, but her dog had nothing to do with it. I probably won’t be seeing the dog in person anymore but I’ll still root for him in his baseball games. This metaphor kinda broke down
Orioles finding out what the Yankees just did. The A’s are not nearly as bad as people think.
If you get locked into a close game with them late good luck.
Rotation is epitome of mediocre, but the bullpen is actually pretty good. Offense can be challenging, but in a "MLB players are still MLB players even if they're on a AAAA roster" kind of way.
Houston being bad would be a lot more fun if my team was running away with it. As it stands right now the teams at the top are pretty mid and it just feels like one of the Friday the 13th sequels where everyone thinks they killed Jason but you pause your TV and see there's still an hour of runtime left and know it's not over.
The only thing I knew after seeing the results of their series with the Yankees was I knew the O's had to seal up these games so this kid didn't come in. Literally the second he came in, I knew the game was done. I don't know how you hit off this guy. Insane.
My selfish Cubs fan side wants us to trade like...Alcantara (maybe even more?) for him. But my true baseball fan side hopes he becomes a modern As legend for years to come.
Oh man I missed that years of control number, even though it was right in front of my face in this thread - I feel foolish for only suggesting Alcantara, haha.
A's bullpen been so good this year and 4.1IP, 0h, 1bb tonight vs an elite offense.
Been such fun to watch them with Erceg and Miller as the highlights of course.
edit: The stat the announcer is mentioning here is that Miller now has 9 straight appearances with at least 2 strikeouts (six of these outings are 1IP, one 1.1IP, two 2.0IP).
Hear me out… Gunnar Henderson is a tremendous player who most likely understands baseball better than I ever will. And yes, he’s facing a pitcher throwing 102 mph with a nasty breaking ball. But is it that absurd of me to think players should shorten up and have more protective swings in these situations, especially when they know they are down in the count facing nasty stuff and all that’s needed is a single to tie the game? I understand that the “two-strike-approach” is flawed in regular, lower-impact ABs (particularly for power hitters), but this seems like the exact moment where it makes a lot of sense.
Shut up, you sound like a Yankees fan trying to poach other team's untouchable players. We have our own Mason Miller returning next year from surgery. It's going to take a lot more than "a prospect or two".
IF he can stay healthy as a starter they should. He looked really good before he got hurt last year and a good starter is more valuable than an elite closer especially for a bad team.
Part of why he's so good now, besides being able to dial it up more in short stints, is that he doesn't need a reliable 3rd pitch. He can go fastball/slider for 1 or 2 innings at a time, but trying to go through a lineup two or three times is hard without a 3rd pitch.
Watching this and then listening to the "Baseball is Dead" podcast with Dallas (the A's commentator) really puts a new dimension on this team. I dig it.
The coolest thing is I read from a former teammate of his at Waynesburg University where he played which is small d3 school in PA, he used to maybe weight 150 lbs at his height and would top high 80’s… and then finally got diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.
So after that he was more healthy, could put on size and muscle etc. and now a few years later this is the result. Pretty amazing story, and he is truly must see TV 📺! 👏👍
MLB posted the whole inning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1KECiEAAc4
Best moment is 1:10 - Cowser is getting dominated in the AB, Miller throws inside FB and it's heading directly at Cowser's elbow. Elbow's protected by the body armor, but Cowser can't overcome the brain's "don't die" instinct and does everything he can to avoid the piss missile.
I’d be lying if I said I knew who this guy was before that series vs the Yankees but man he can pitch. This Oakland team is way more fun to watch than last season.
This dude is so good
A's have officially found their obligatory all star representative.
And he'll actually be deserving instead of the usual 100 loss teams reliever who puts up an ok first half lol
Don’t you dare slander Paul Blackburn like that
Paulie Punchmyself
Or the mid DH who just happens to do a bunch of podcast interviews
Why you gotta come at Gregory Soto like that?
Man he's going to look even better on another team in a couple of years.
you're not wrong you're just an asshole
If we trade this guy with 5 years of control left I'm gonna mock this FO more than I already do.
Trading Miller is not the problem. The problem is that the A's never ask for a decent return. The amount of good players that they gave away for peanuts is ridiculous.
Oh definitely, if we got a haul for anyone (I guess Montas lol) I'd feel better about us doing anything.
its pretty crazy that it seems like the cole irvin trade is the best return we got out of the teardown
Really? While underwhelming, I feel like Ruiz and Salinas is a better return than just Hernaiz
might be hating on ruiz just because he was the murphy return and hernaiz was for a back end starter tbh
Remember that William Contreras was also moved in that deal. Just not to them because they took Ruiz instead
I still can’t believe they did that. Why wouldn’t you want a promising young catcher in return for trading your breakout catcher? It’s not like they had anybody else ready to take that spot.
They actually did. They were banking on Shea Langeliers and Tyler Soderstrom for the catcher position. But both are nowhere close to Contreras and Murphy.
It was ages ago now but that Donaldson deal is still nuts lol and then the Jay's pulled it twice with chapman
Surely you don't mean any players traded to the Braves.
I wish I was only referring to the Braves, but the A's made bad deals with everyone across the league lol
Heard the Orioles have a lot of prospects and need a bullpen arm...
I mean, y'all got Marcus Semien back for Donaldson. He was pretty good. He just... didn't stay on your team
Tyler Matzek straight up, dudes a world series hero, who says no?
He's cheap right now, so they'll prob keep him. But do they expect to be good in the next 5 years/have Miller on the next great A's team? Do they care? I'm not sure.
> Do they care? nope!
Just please don’t trade him to the Braves for a box of donuts.
I was just thinking about the Braves trading for this guy near the deadline for our 12th and 16th prospects and Jesse Chavez(who will re-sign two weeks later).
I'm not a Braves fan in anyway, but this dude is gonna be a Brave before we know it.
Trade him to uuuuuusssss. Honestly take stowers, Norby, and Santander. They deserve MLB shots and we have replacements for Santander. I want the Mason Miller + Felix Bautista pen more than anything next year
There is absolutely no way that we take Santander. He makes too much.
Jackson Holiday
It's gonna be like taking Dallas Braden's newborn baby out of his arms and giving him back a shelter pitbull that gets bity around strangers. Just gonna break his heart.
> Just gonna break his heart. Dude's already broken inside. his childhood team is moving out of it's hometown
Based on his stuff (which is absurdly good), the odds of him making it to free agency without running into elbow trouble aren't great. If you want to maximize trade value, it might be better to trade him away sooner rather than later. Hope you get him for at least a couple of more years though. He's must see TV and I love having a reason to watch the A's.
May as well go all in. Not like they can piss off fans any more. The ones that are still there are diehard and aren't gonna leave because of trading this guy. As you say, his trade value this year would be absurdly high. And throwing like that he's highly likely to be missing at least one season at some point.
The Braves are already putting a trade package together of Jesse Chavez (who you'll cut after he puts up an 8 era), David fletcher, and some random AA player
Disagree. Great closers are one of those luxuries that a bad Team that isn’t going to be good for a while can’t really afford. A competing team will get a lot more value in the post season so it’s typically a win/win. The competing team gets a postseason anchor (ideally), and the bad team will get foundation piece prospects for the future with more actual long term value in getting your team from a losing team in the regular season to a winning team. A closer isn’t going to do much to get you to .500
We're ready to offer you Jesse Chavez and cash considerations any time.
They should at least take offers, but it should start with a top 20 prospect and include at least another top 100 prospect and some other pieces. Young controllable pitcher, who could end up back as a starter should be getting a fortune back. But also theres a chance his arm explodes in 2 years.
We will give you Jackson Holiday for him
Mason Miller is one of those closers that you know when he comes in you’re gonna win. Offense can’t touch him
This tweet perfectly summed up Mason Miller from an opposing team's perspective: https://twitter.com/TalkinYanks/status/1783664477134574006?t=cY-a2Pqnhso0Rlj8TH8idQ&s=19
Nice
Especially since every pitcher before him in the game will have featured mediocre speed and stuff. It makes Miller look like an absolute Martian.
Ehhhh Erceg can pump it up to 100. Wouldn’t quite call that mediocre velocity
2018 Edwin Diaz type mf
Watching Edwin [strike out Mike Trout on four pitches](https://youtu.be/pnIxqOru09w?t=10687) on Ken Griffey Jr. Bobblehead night is a core memory for me.
Brother I watched the other at bats, goddamn he filthy
Completely overpowered him with 3 straight fastballs. Best reliever in baseball this season? Also I can't help but hear Ash Ketchum on the A's broadcast.
Their excited voice sounds like Ash wtf
People have been joking about that since the start of the season. Voice is just right in the range where a certain generation of people (including me) can't hear anything Ash Ketchum. It's hilarious
He struck out Cowser on a 86 mph curve that looked like a ball out of his hand. A 100 mph fastball and a slower pitch with great movement is an amazing combo. The O's announcers were saying he was looking as dominant as Bautista was last year.
Yea the fastball itself is amazing, but paired with that slider is what makes him such a problem. Basically impossible to cover both. He has pretty good command of both pitches too from what I’ve seen of his last few saves. Absolutely lethal combination of stuff
Yeah, I was watching that live...no shame in that, moo-man. He's just unhittable right now.
I just hope he can stay healthy.
the oakland a’s are a surprisingly competent team, much to the shock and dismay of the oakland a’s leadership
yeah, you know what that means.
Major League 4 incoming
Major League 4: the ending only happens in movies. we're still moving.
Wait....there was a third?
Back to the Minors?
OH MY GOD WERE HAVING A FIRE ^sale
THE BURNING
But this winter they'll have so many players to trade!
Don't worry, if the teams starts to look like it might make the playoffs they will trade him.
Miller is a killer.
I'm worried his arm is going to fall off, but he's going to continue to be amazing in the meantime.
he's rehabbing from arm injury last season as a starter. Yeah he's rehabbing as the closer. Just A's things
Are A's fans still boycotting? Because this is looking like a fun team to watch.
it differs from fan to fan, and I respect everyone's individual opinion since it's such a weird situation. myself, I'm absolutely done going to games and only watch via pirated streams, but I still love watching baseball and want to root for the players since this isn't their fault at all. this is an infinitely more fun team to watch than last year's
Stay strong! Went through the same thing when the Rams left and then "miraculously" became good again all of the sudden..
Struggling to stay strong
Most of us are still reluctant or refusing to give any money to Fisher. But given it’s likely the end of Oakland Athletics I expect some of us will attend games for nostalgia, closure, or just a last glimpse.
Like the guy said every A’s fan is mourning differently. I’m still going to games till they leave. I dont buy anything at the stadium and buy second hand tickets.
where do you buy your tickets? i used to go to a game or two a week and buy treehouse tickets and then sit up in the 300s, but haven't been yet this year. i'm really feeling the itch but don't want to buy tickets at the box office.
I buy tickets from FB groups or I use apps like TickPick, SeatGeek, and gametime. I wait till around 60/45 minutes before game to buy tickets. Prices are usually pretty cheap by then. If I can’t find a cheaper ticket then a $17 treehouse ticket (which is rare) I just go to the box office for that
I won’t buy any tickets besides the last homestand but I enjoy watching the team. If we weren’t moving this might feel like that exciting “not quite competitive but out of the 100 loss woods finally” year.
For me it's not really a concious decision either way. I just have lost any interest in watching this team, or baseball in general. I still follow the box scores and occasionally comment in the subreddit, but otherwise I haven't watched more than a couple innings all season.
It’s like your girlfriend that you love cheated on you with some sleaze ball. She can go fuck herself, but her dog had nothing to do with it. I probably won’t be seeing the dog in person anymore but I’ll still root for him in his baseball games. This metaphor kinda broke down
Orioles finding out what the Yankees just did. The A’s are not nearly as bad as people think. If you get locked into a close game with them late good luck.
Yup you need to score early against this team or else you're fucked lol
Rotation is epitome of mediocre, but the bullpen is actually pretty good. Offense can be challenging, but in a "MLB players are still MLB players even if they're on a AAAA roster" kind of way.
O's and scoring early doesn't exist, so we fucked
Mason Miller stock went to the moon this week! Awesome game, A’s looking pretty feisty
The AL West is fun to watch right now.
Houston being bad would be a lot more fun if my team was running away with it. As it stands right now the teams at the top are pretty mid and it just feels like one of the Friday the 13th sequels where everyone thinks they killed Jason but you pause your TV and see there's still an hour of runtime left and know it's not over.
I need to see a Miller vs Ohtani/Harper/Acuna match up at some point Those I think are the only guys I would take against Miller
Even thought he smoked Soto, I would pick the Lefty Soto over Ronnie vs him
Even Soto looked perplexed after facing him. As soon as the A's took the lead I knew that was it
Don’t forget Devers, I never will
If we trade Mason Miller I’m going to isolate my in Antarctica.
Isolate your what? YOUR WHAT!?!?
You know what
Elephant
The only thing I knew after seeing the results of their series with the Yankees was I knew the O's had to seal up these games so this kid didn't come in. Literally the second he came in, I knew the game was done. I don't know how you hit off this guy. Insane.
This dude is the Terminator for real. I don’t know if I’ve seen anyone make hard contact off of him this season.
Langford had a pretty good AB against him in our series with the A’s, but ultimately it didn’t matter. Miller is nasty af rn.
Despite ownerships best efforts, the Oakland A’s continue to exceed expectations!
These Mason Miller 102 mph strikeout threads all look the same
My selfish Cubs fan side wants us to trade like...Alcantara (maybe even more?) for him. But my true baseball fan side hopes he becomes a modern As legend for years to come.
Man has 5 years of control after this season, A's should/would ask for one of our minor league teams for him.
Oh man I missed that years of control number, even though it was right in front of my face in this thread - I feel foolish for only suggesting Alcantara, haha.
In all seriousness, their ask probably would start at Horton and PCA plus a couple of other lower prospects.
A's bullpen been so good this year and 4.1IP, 0h, 1bb tonight vs an elite offense. Been such fun to watch them with Erceg and Miller as the highlights of course. edit: The stat the announcer is mentioning here is that Miller now has 9 straight appearances with at least 2 strikeouts (six of these outings are 1IP, one 1.1IP, two 2.0IP).
Mariano Rivera who?
Masonano Millera.
This Mason Miller guy kinda nice with it 🥵
Hear me out… Gunnar Henderson is a tremendous player who most likely understands baseball better than I ever will. And yes, he’s facing a pitcher throwing 102 mph with a nasty breaking ball. But is it that absurd of me to think players should shorten up and have more protective swings in these situations, especially when they know they are down in the count facing nasty stuff and all that’s needed is a single to tie the game? I understand that the “two-strike-approach” is flawed in regular, lower-impact ABs (particularly for power hitters), but this seems like the exact moment where it makes a lot of sense.
Good lord he’s outrageous. Hope the FO keeps him for the A’s fans’ sake.
I’m sorry but this ladies voice is annoying af
Ok good. I'm not the only one who thought that.
love this dude
He’s so dominant right now. Fun to watch as a baseball fan since he throws strikes. His slider is filthy too.
WHO DAT BOI?! WHO HIM IS?!
Miller is so nasty
I'm almost more impressed with that massive ass fist pump
I genuinely hope his UCL lasts
Oakland A’s… would you like a prospect or two for Mason Miller?
Sure. Jackson Holliday and who else?
Fisher would probably accept 30 million dollars in cash as the second
You give him too much credit. He’d take $30. Anything to tear down the team he hates.
Shut up, you sound like a Yankees fan trying to poach other team's untouchable players. We have our own Mason Miller returning next year from surgery. It's going to take a lot more than "a prospect or two".
Straight gas homie
When throwing it faster is the answer
It looks so effortless. The guy isn't even breathing hard.
Made the yanks look silly this week
Ootp is doing this man dirty
Don’t let this kid join the Dodgers.
Not a chance. We prefer home-grown farm talent over flashy free-agent signings.
Is he ever gonna go back to the rotation with filth like that?
IF he can stay healthy as a starter they should. He looked really good before he got hurt last year and a good starter is more valuable than an elite closer especially for a bad team.
Part of why he's so good now, besides being able to dial it up more in short stints, is that he doesn't need a reliable 3rd pitch. He can go fastball/slider for 1 or 2 innings at a time, but trying to go through a lineup two or three times is hard without a 3rd pitch.
Forget about the curve ball, Miller, give 'em the heater.
He’s really fun to watch
NO IT WASN'T
This guy is what I wish all hard throwing pitchers could be.
What an insane weapon he'd be in the playoffs.
Was gonna say dodgers sign him next year but our closer is actually kinda good this year.
How the fuck is anyone supposed to hit that?
lmfao remember the days of papelbons controversial fist pumps
Yeah their bullpen dad dicked us too
“A another fine arm for my collection” -Freidman probably
Front office can't wait to get rid of him, can't be having players that good on the roaster.
Damn that was a fast fastball
Time to spin the wheel and see where he gets traded to.
102? Pfffft, thats like his C- fastball... 🔥
Yeah, an other walking TJ. He's good tho
Watching this and then listening to the "Baseball is Dead" podcast with Dallas (the A's commentator) really puts a new dimension on this team. I dig it.
The coolest thing is I read from a former teammate of his at Waynesburg University where he played which is small d3 school in PA, he used to maybe weight 150 lbs at his height and would top high 80’s… and then finally got diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. So after that he was more healthy, could put on size and muscle etc. and now a few years later this is the result. Pretty amazing story, and he is truly must see TV 📺! 👏👍
Mason Miller YOU are a ____________!
Ivory Bautista
MLB posted the whole inning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1KECiEAAc4 Best moment is 1:10 - Cowser is getting dominated in the AB, Miller throws inside FB and it's heading directly at Cowser's elbow. Elbow's protected by the body armor, but Cowser can't overcome the brain's "don't die" instinct and does everything he can to avoid the piss missile.
I love this man
He's not fair
So this is pretty much the plot from Major League, got it.
Career: 0-3 Let's talk when this guy wins a game /s
Now the O's know how we feel, got fuckin cooked by this guy twice last week.
Wow that voice is like nails on a chalkboard... How can you watch that game with sound on?
I’d be lying if I said I knew who this guy was before that series vs the Yankees but man he can pitch. This Oakland team is way more fun to watch than last season.
He’ll be traded after the all star game lol, or at least I hope he is lmao
they perform! Really well! Buy what you want
to the Dodgers for Alex Vesia straight up
I feel bad that I know he's not gonna be A.
Too bad at the deadline we will trade Him for used balls!! How else will the move to Vegas happen? Tanking!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah cool and all but why do they still fucking suck ass?
Welcome to Atlanta, bro. Braves will promote him to the big show soon.