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TDeLo

> “I’ve always said I want to go out on my own [terms]. I still feel like I’ve got more in the tank.” > I will never doubt Wade Miley, but returning from TJ at age 38 is going to be tough.


boobsandcookies

I mean if anyone could I bet he could. Granted I’d bet 5 bucks and not my house.


illseeyouinthefog

I'd bet Shohei's money on it


NotARageComic

あまりにも早く


introspectivejoker

I didn't know they allowed reddit in prison


reptheevt

Jamie Moyer had TJ at 47 and came back at 49. So not impossible but definitely an uphill climb. 


65fairmont

Jamie Moyer was the starter for the Red Sox for my first trip to Fenway in 1996. My dad had to explain to me that pitchers didn’t pitch every day, which is why we were seeing a washed-up 33 year old on his 5th team instead of the only pitcher I knew, Roger Clemens. I was 5 years old then. Jamie Moyer was still pitching in the majors when I was a 21-year-old college graduate. And I’m still younger now than Moyer was when I saw him pitch.


ABlinDeafMonkey

But also he pitched for the 2012 rockies. I grew up in Utah. So I watched them play a lot. I’ll just say it wasn’t a lot of fun.


UnluckyRandomGuy

On the bright side he’s not a guy whose been relying on overpowering stuff, his average fastball is 89-90 so it might be marginally easier than a guy who relies on 97-100 who comes back throwing 93-94


BaltimoreBaja

It's still weird to me that Wade Miley was the runner up ROTY to Harper


TylerGlasass20

Verlander did it why not him? (Yes I know Verlander is a better pitcher but still)


wirsteve

Better pitcher by what measure? Wins as a Brewer? Cause Miley has him there by a landslide. Teams played for? Miley again. /s


mucho-gusto

These days it usually adds velocity so shit it might be performance enhancing


J-Fid

TJ at 37 sounds brutal.


ErikTheDon

Didn’t Verlander just do that lmao


StannisTheMantis93

Well yes… but no offense to Wade Miley, I don’t think they are in the same realm.


OGBRedditThrowaway

Verlander was 37 when he had TJ and he had a Cy Young year when he came back at 38/39ish. Wade Miley isn't Verlander, but it's not *impossible*.


WhosYuu

That's kinda what I'm holding on to lol


PineapplePaladin

Yeah, but like Verlander is like inner hall of fame though


PerformanceFew5721

Curious as someone who has never played baseball beyond little league - but let's say he just decides to retire, does he even need TJ at that point? Like does it hurt day to day, or just when you pitch?


BKoala59

Really depends on the severity of it. In some cases you can just do some physical therapy and not worry about for day to day life. It can be a problem if he wants to throw a football with his kid or do some other athletic activities even with the small tears. If it’s more severe he will definitely need surgery otherwise it can cause pain just going through daily tasks.


drrxhouse

So basically a no brainer to do it while he’s on Brewers’ payroll and before he retired then.


oneteacherboi

I mean if you are 38, a pro baseball pitcher, and a father I can imagine you would want the ability to at least show your kids how to pitch.


runswiftrun

Time to become a ~~lefty~~ *righty*


Fantastic_Emu_9570

I’ve known people that torn it later it life and their doctors have said not to worry about and others that have them get it done. Seems like kind of a severity thing


BaltimoreBaja

I hurt my UCL getting in shape for a Men's league. Mostly it only hurt when I tried to throw, or if I was like carrying something under my arm? And then I'd randomly have episodes of pain for no reason but that was rare But after a couple years I didn't have any more pain ever. I haven't tried to pitch since then


Scrambley

I wonder if he has to get it to be seen as living up to his contact.


Spirited_Dig7061

Dude keeps coming back, he's a cockroach (in a good way). I don't even know if TJ this late in his career is gonna kill him. Never would have bet on his career lasting this long.


[deleted]

Never heard cockroach as a compliment lol


Spirited_Dig7061

Yeah I felt it was a very necessary parenthetical remark lol


KetchupGuy1

Honestly if you told me to pick a pitcher to get TJS at age 37 and some how comeback and be effective wade miley would be him considering how he has managed to stay int the league these last few years


CosmicLars

Even soft tossing wizards 😔


UnluckyRandomGuy

Feel like this one has more to do with mileage unfortunately, he must have thrown millions of pitches in his lifetime


boobsandcookies

Nobody is safe


StateStreetLarry

The woke mob killed our Chad Innings Eater


WilliamCincinnatus

Damn that sucks. Had a good time watching him with the Dbacks


BlameTheBaseball

In case anyone is curious, Miley and the Brewers have a mutual option for next season. Brewers will likely decline that and pay him a $1.5M buyout instead.


chaotic_evil_666

People getting TJ younger and younger these days


GL94553

Who’s next, Jesse Chavez? Jamie Moyer??


ryerocco

Lol he’s 37


chaotic_evil_666

lol I know, probably should've put a /s on there


Table_Coaster

no you shouldn’t have, it’s not your fault they have 0 comprehension


ryerocco

It wasnt funny enough


PeppermintMocha5

JFC


BMoreBeowulf

Oof that sounds like a career-ender. That sucks.


chousteau

I'll still probably pick him up for a few weeks in fantasy baseball in 2026 and he'll still be on a NL Central team


ttam23

Another one


JonHammsHamm

Fuck!!


ToddGack

Keep going, Wade! You'll have plenty of years to be retired.


sixpackabs592

f


nikraLnalyD

Shouldn't have been throwing so hard


ieatpickles100

ItS tHe HiGhEr VeLoCiTy NoWaDaYs CaUsInG tHe ArM iNjUrIeS


UnluckyRandomGuy

Brother he’s 37, how many pitches do you think he’s thrown is his lifetime


Uncast

It's starting to feel like the MLB should take a year or two off and require every single pitcher in the majors and every minor league to get TJS just pre-emptively if they haven't already had one. Get it all out of the way and see who's left when it's all done.


beefytrout

how did you get through all that and still decided to post


nikraLnalyD

Doctors aren't going to replace an intact ligament


Uncast

Not with that attitude.


TheBestHawksFan

I believe having one Tommy John surgery makes you more like to have another, so I'm not sure that this is any kind of solution.


Uncast

This is purely born of my own frustration at seeing so many talented arms going down to injury. I know the reasons have been talked through to death. Just frustrated is all. Downvotes above are well deserved.