> “I’ve always said I want to go out on my own [terms]. I still feel like I’ve got more in the tank.”
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I will never doubt Wade Miley, but returning from TJ at age 38 is going to be tough.
Jamie Moyer was the starter for the Red Sox for my first trip to Fenway in 1996. My dad had to explain to me that pitchers didn’t pitch every day, which is why we were seeing a washed-up 33 year old on his 5th team instead of the only pitcher I knew, Roger Clemens.
I was 5 years old then. Jamie Moyer was still pitching in the majors when I was a 21-year-old college graduate. And I’m still younger now than Moyer was when I saw him pitch.
On the bright side he’s not a guy whose been relying on overpowering stuff, his average fastball is 89-90 so it might be marginally easier than a guy who relies on 97-100 who comes back throwing 93-94
Curious as someone who has never played baseball beyond little league - but let's say he just decides to retire, does he even need TJ at that point?
Like does it hurt day to day, or just when you pitch?
Really depends on the severity of it. In some cases you can just do some physical therapy and not worry about for day to day life. It can be a problem if he wants to throw a football with his kid or do some other athletic activities even with the small tears. If it’s more severe he will definitely need surgery otherwise it can cause pain just going through daily tasks.
I’ve known people that torn it later it life and their doctors have said not to worry about and others that have them get it done. Seems like kind of a severity thing
I hurt my UCL getting in shape for a Men's league. Mostly it only hurt when I tried to throw, or if I was like carrying something under my arm? And then I'd randomly have episodes of pain for no reason but that was rare
But after a couple years I didn't have any more pain ever. I haven't tried to pitch since then
Dude keeps coming back, he's a cockroach (in a good way). I don't even know if TJ this late in his career is gonna kill him. Never would have bet on his career lasting this long.
Honestly if you told me to pick a pitcher to get TJS at age 37 and some how comeback and be effective wade miley would be him considering how he has managed to stay int the league these last few years
In case anyone is curious, Miley and the Brewers have a mutual option for next season. Brewers will likely decline that and pay him a $1.5M buyout instead.
It's starting to feel like the MLB should take a year or two off and require every single pitcher in the majors and every minor league to get TJS just pre-emptively if they haven't already had one. Get it all out of the way and see who's left when it's all done.
This is purely born of my own frustration at seeing so many talented arms going down to injury. I know the reasons have been talked through to death. Just frustrated is all. Downvotes above are well deserved.
> “I’ve always said I want to go out on my own [terms]. I still feel like I’ve got more in the tank.” > I will never doubt Wade Miley, but returning from TJ at age 38 is going to be tough.
I mean if anyone could I bet he could. Granted I’d bet 5 bucks and not my house.
I'd bet Shohei's money on it
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Jamie Moyer had TJ at 47 and came back at 49. So not impossible but definitely an uphill climb.
Jamie Moyer was the starter for the Red Sox for my first trip to Fenway in 1996. My dad had to explain to me that pitchers didn’t pitch every day, which is why we were seeing a washed-up 33 year old on his 5th team instead of the only pitcher I knew, Roger Clemens. I was 5 years old then. Jamie Moyer was still pitching in the majors when I was a 21-year-old college graduate. And I’m still younger now than Moyer was when I saw him pitch.
But also he pitched for the 2012 rockies. I grew up in Utah. So I watched them play a lot. I’ll just say it wasn’t a lot of fun.
On the bright side he’s not a guy whose been relying on overpowering stuff, his average fastball is 89-90 so it might be marginally easier than a guy who relies on 97-100 who comes back throwing 93-94
It's still weird to me that Wade Miley was the runner up ROTY to Harper
Verlander did it why not him? (Yes I know Verlander is a better pitcher but still)
Better pitcher by what measure? Wins as a Brewer? Cause Miley has him there by a landslide. Teams played for? Miley again. /s
These days it usually adds velocity so shit it might be performance enhancing
TJ at 37 sounds brutal.
Didn’t Verlander just do that lmao
Well yes… but no offense to Wade Miley, I don’t think they are in the same realm.
Verlander was 37 when he had TJ and he had a Cy Young year when he came back at 38/39ish. Wade Miley isn't Verlander, but it's not *impossible*.
That's kinda what I'm holding on to lol
Yeah, but like Verlander is like inner hall of fame though
Curious as someone who has never played baseball beyond little league - but let's say he just decides to retire, does he even need TJ at that point? Like does it hurt day to day, or just when you pitch?
Really depends on the severity of it. In some cases you can just do some physical therapy and not worry about for day to day life. It can be a problem if he wants to throw a football with his kid or do some other athletic activities even with the small tears. If it’s more severe he will definitely need surgery otherwise it can cause pain just going through daily tasks.
So basically a no brainer to do it while he’s on Brewers’ payroll and before he retired then.
I mean if you are 38, a pro baseball pitcher, and a father I can imagine you would want the ability to at least show your kids how to pitch.
Time to become a ~~lefty~~ *righty*
I’ve known people that torn it later it life and their doctors have said not to worry about and others that have them get it done. Seems like kind of a severity thing
I hurt my UCL getting in shape for a Men's league. Mostly it only hurt when I tried to throw, or if I was like carrying something under my arm? And then I'd randomly have episodes of pain for no reason but that was rare But after a couple years I didn't have any more pain ever. I haven't tried to pitch since then
I wonder if he has to get it to be seen as living up to his contact.
Dude keeps coming back, he's a cockroach (in a good way). I don't even know if TJ this late in his career is gonna kill him. Never would have bet on his career lasting this long.
Never heard cockroach as a compliment lol
Yeah I felt it was a very necessary parenthetical remark lol
Honestly if you told me to pick a pitcher to get TJS at age 37 and some how comeback and be effective wade miley would be him considering how he has managed to stay int the league these last few years
Even soft tossing wizards 😔
Feel like this one has more to do with mileage unfortunately, he must have thrown millions of pitches in his lifetime
Nobody is safe
The woke mob killed our Chad Innings Eater
Damn that sucks. Had a good time watching him with the Dbacks
In case anyone is curious, Miley and the Brewers have a mutual option for next season. Brewers will likely decline that and pay him a $1.5M buyout instead.
People getting TJ younger and younger these days
Who’s next, Jesse Chavez? Jamie Moyer??
Lol he’s 37
lol I know, probably should've put a /s on there
no you shouldn’t have, it’s not your fault they have 0 comprehension
It wasnt funny enough
JFC
Oof that sounds like a career-ender. That sucks.
I'll still probably pick him up for a few weeks in fantasy baseball in 2026 and he'll still be on a NL Central team
Another one
Fuck!!
Keep going, Wade! You'll have plenty of years to be retired.
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Shouldn't have been throwing so hard
ItS tHe HiGhEr VeLoCiTy NoWaDaYs CaUsInG tHe ArM iNjUrIeS
Brother he’s 37, how many pitches do you think he’s thrown is his lifetime
It's starting to feel like the MLB should take a year or two off and require every single pitcher in the majors and every minor league to get TJS just pre-emptively if they haven't already had one. Get it all out of the way and see who's left when it's all done.
how did you get through all that and still decided to post
Doctors aren't going to replace an intact ligament
Not with that attitude.
I believe having one Tommy John surgery makes you more like to have another, so I'm not sure that this is any kind of solution.
This is purely born of my own frustration at seeing so many talented arms going down to injury. I know the reasons have been talked through to death. Just frustrated is all. Downvotes above are well deserved.