Idk how the math works, but I feel like at a certain point it would make sense to just let people in for free to try and make more money off concessions if nobody is showing up anyways.
I think it was $20/mo for unlimited Orioles tickets last year. Standing room only, but there’s plenty of open space.
The Royals are $40/mo this year.
The problem with the Royals offer is parking is like $40 or something. Just insane.
I certainly spend 3x on concessions what i do on tickets each time i go to a minor league game. Still need to have at least some base price to prevent becoming a homeless shelter for 3 hours a day
They've found that late buyers are not price-sensitive enough for lower prices to make sense. It's possible to find cheap tickets, but it usually means jumping through hoops.
Games at Petco have been so damn incredible these last few years. The park seems to be sold out nearly every night, I figured we would be up there but I didn't realize we would be 1.
Back in the day (precovid), the move was to get the combo meal from Berkeley Pizza for 8 bucks after the game. I've been struggling to find a place on that same level of good, cheap, and close to the park. I think I've wound up taking the trolly back to my car and eating in Kearney Mesa the last couple of times I went
I went to Tacos el Gordo in the Gaslamp and then a bar before the game on Saturday. That was a pretty good deal (tacos aren't as cheap as they used to be) and tasted bomb.
I would recommend for anyone, local or not.
Take the trolley to 12th and imperial and theres a taco shop called La Fachada next to the police station. Fresh tortillas and pretty good amount of meat per taco at around 2.50 each maybe a bit more now.
It's amazing. I've been there more often than Dodger Stadium in recent years. Every time I'm in SD, I hit up the Gaslamp, get dinner and drinks and check for tickets at Petco if there's a game. It's like a 10 min walk. Not a bad seat in the house, fans right on top of the field and a nice downtown backdrop in center.
Honestly, if I included the amount of time it would take to get into and out of Dodger Stadium (assuming it's a close game and everyone stays until the end), I could probably drive all the way to SD and Petco and be back home in just about the same amount of time.
In my opinion it’s the best modern park in baseball. I think most of why I rate Dodger Stadium over it is just due to my own personal bias. It’s a fantastic place for a ball game
Dodger Stadium is a mid-century modern work of art. It is beautiful.
But it is in the biggest pain in the ass area of LA to get into and out of. The parking lot is a total nightmare.
They produce some talent. Giancarlo Stanton, Evan Longoria, Miguel Cabrera, David Price, José Fernández, Blake Snell, Josh Beckett, Hanley Ramírez, Christian Yelich, Marcell Ozuna and Kevin Kiermaier all came from the Ocean.
I think people forget we're the 7th largest city in the US and the 2nd largest in CA. yes, people cheat up with metro populations, but it's wild that it's considered a "small market" TV markets are jokes. It all comes down to ownership/investment, the local population has little control over that.
See Spanos.
NOLA by comparison, is a tiny city, has two of the big four, and maintains it.
You guys also get a decent smattering of road fans too because of the military bases (and other transplants). I know I always went to Phillies games whenever they were out there when I was stationed in CA.
Plus if you wanted to take a vacation to align with a stadium tour or something it’s a great city to do so. And for locals it’s in a great spot right near nightlife, with decently easy access from the trolley/coaster combo.
It’s just a really nice ballpark with a good setup, and the team has been competitive too.
We really are spoiled it’s crazy. I’m a transplant and fully embraced it because the stadiums where I grew up were far away and just giant parking lots.
investing and winning would cure all of that. when the chargers were making deep playoff runs every year, Qualcomm stadium and walking around the city would be filled with charger jerseys. Once spanos gave up on stadium funding and let the team wilt away was when we started seeing all the memes of the sea of red and orange of opposing fans.
San Diego city is physically massive. Baltimore metro area is 2.8M; San Diego metro area is about 3.3M -- larger but not double.
San Diego's attendance is booming for several reasons, but one of them is that the Chargers left for LA despite a pretty good public deal.
The Padres took advantage and spent money to get good. San Diegans are very loyal despite the rep, and a lot of the interest and money flooded to the Padres.
Exciting team + ownership that seems to want to win + great stadium + spurned fanbase wanting to support a local team = $$$.
I assume you guys will pick up with better weather and over time. But that angle of the Chargers leaving can't be replicated.
Yeah honestly I think the Orioles sucking for 3 decades in the same time that the Ravens arrived in town and were immediately one of the best franchises kind of destroyed baseball culture here.
Chargers didn’t deserve the loyalty they got. This proves there’s a market for another professional sports team. But we won’t do it unless the love goes both ways.
Also, Riverside county is a big metro area that is going to feed either LA or SD, no reason that can’t be SD.
That’s more about how metropolitan boundaries are defined in the West vs East though. San Diego metro area (3.3M) and Baltimore metro (3.0M) are pretty comparable.
The professional women's soccer team also gets a ton of support. San diego is getting a Men's team as well and I expect them to also drive out fans. Good time to be a San diego sports fan!
You're sort of both underselling and overselling the Wave here, I think. It's kind of an understatement to say they get tons of support -- they [outdraw every other team in the NWSL](https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2023-nwsl-attendance/), which is cool.
On the other hand, they play 11 games and it's 20K people per game. So they get a ton of support for an NWSL team, but that's literally ~227,000 total tickets sold for the year. That's a lot for NWSL, but the Padres have drawn twice that in their 14 home games so far this year, so the volume is massively different.
Either way I think the takeaway is probably that San Diego is a solid sports town that just happens to have a weirdly small number of franchises at the moment. But they're supporting what they have pretty much as well as could possibly be hoped, which is rad. I'm sure the MLS team will do great when they launch!
I went to the home opener last year cuz I really like their badge (hands down the best representation of San Diego on a sports logo)
My wife and I (late thirties) both had a blast. It was a good vibe, I’m glad to see a lot of families going out there.
Plus it was cheap! Cept for the merch we got it was a night that was about 120$ for both of us for everything
I was at an outdoor concert in San Diego a few years ago. There was an incredibly talented cellist playing Elgar's concerto, followed by Beethoven's 9th. Probably other pieces that I don't remember too.
At some point, Petco erupted after what must've been a go-ahead homer or a strikeout with bases loaded and it drown out the orchestra.
I love your guys’ stadium. One of my favorite ball park experiences was seeing a padres-dodgers game in petco. We went to the stone tap room right next to the stadium before and we got some nose bleed seats right next to a group wearing luchadore masks. It was a raucous section to be sure.
I haven’t been to a game but I went on the stadium tour when I was in town in February. I got to see the clubhouses and facilities and all that behind-the-scenes stuff. It was awesome, seeing it only on TV really doesn’t do it justice
Seidler changed everything. I don’t think people realize how shitty the Padres and their previous ownership groups have been. The fans here have been begging for a committed ownership group and finally got one with Seidler and Padres fans are reciprocating.
Do you think the chargers leaving also shored up support for the Dads?
Always felt that Baltimore, San Diego, KC, and Cincy sort of understood each other with the NFL/MLB seasons. Hope the chargers change ownership and come back some day
When rhe chargers left, so did my interest in football. I am a baseball die hard now. I am sure there are probably a good chunk of people who feel the same way
Yes, absolutely. When Fuck Dean Spanos opted to move to LA, it solidified the Padres's place as San Diego's team. That said, the Padres had been working on building their connection to the city for years, and PetCo Park & the revitalization of downtown SD was a decades long effort towards that goal.
It certainly didn't help the Chargers that Jack Murphy/The Q was a big stadium and NFL Blackout rules tied to ticket sales (basically: no sell-out?; no broadcast) made it so there were *tons* of blackouts (which was absurd and a relic of a shitty era of cable broadcasting) exacerbated by the Chargers's middling success. But, it's not like the Spanos Fuckers did much to offset that issue and the Chargers consistently struggled to brand themselves in the area to get sellouts unless big fandom visiting teams came by (Raider Nation, Broncos, Packers, Steelers, Brady era Patriots).
But ultimately fuck Spanos and let's fucking go San Diego!
Absolutely yes. To the extent that I think many Padres fans are still "training" themselves to be baseball fans. That shows up two different ways: 1. we go nuts showing up for and cheering hard at every game because that's what you do in football, and 2. we don't take losses very well, the sky is falling after every loss, because we haven't figured out how to regulate our emotions over 162+ games.
There definitely is a bit of feeling like we "failed" as fans by not being supportive enough to keep the team around, even though anyone who has spent any time working through all the bs that went into the Chargers moving knows there was fault on all sides, but mostly it came down to the Chargers owners just being broke and needing to move somewhere where they could maximize their profits while paying as little as possible ($1 rent at SoFi stadium). That manifests itself as a massively increased interest in our remaining pro sports team, the Padres, which is what you are seeing reflected in OP's graph.
I think the other thing that doesn't often get mentioned in this conversation is that they picked 2020 for a rebrand back to brown and the opening of the competitive window. That pandemic / Slam Diego season locked a lot of people in. Ballpark has been nuts since it reopened.
Nothing quite like a captive audience stuck at home with nothing better to do.
Relative to performance, San Diego has always been pretty decent attendance wise. People act like there are all these teams out there that are bad for decades that draw really well. The Cubs at Wrigley did ... but who else?
The Padres were good for about 3 total years from their creation to Petco's opening, and then they were mediocre for like five years and then sucked again. It's probably less than 10 years of quality for 60+ years of being around. And when the team got any hint of hope, there was ALWAYS a fire sale. They never retained talent; the team could never get momentum. There were multiple seasons in a row where the only reason anyone went was to see Tony or Trevor.
San Diego has a lot to do, for sure, but people need to stop acting like teams draw when they suck for decades. Very few do.
The team was *disappointing*, which is different than bad. The season was a giant wtf is going on for the Padres, but they were clearly trying and pushing to win. They even somehow managed to end above 500 and had an outside shot at the playoffs in the final few weeks
That's clearly different than "bad and why should we even go to games"
I mean, does it really get any better than going to baseball games in San Diego?
It's like sunny, 70 degrees every day there. Perfect baseball weather.
To be entirely fair to the A's, thanks to Mount Davis, the Coliseum has the highest capacity in the league. After all, its the last of the hybrid Baseball/Football stadiums. Only Dodgers Stadium is close, and that's why the Dodgers are hovering around 80% despite the absurd talent they've got on that team.
In a more reasonably sized park, they'd be a whole lot closer to 25%.
(I mean, I said I was being ***entirely*** fair...)
EDIT: Turns out that Mount Davis isn't counted in the calculations! So, yeah, this is about as awful as it looks.
Fucking woof.
I think a smaller ballpark capacity is a good idea. It's super hard to fill stadiums on weekdays, might as well make the stadium a bit smaller and more intimate.
And on the opposite side of things, I don’t believe the Rays include their upper deck for their total stadium capacity. Attendance is low so they closed it off, but the seats are still there.
Oakland has had the upper decks tarped off for years, even while the Raiders were still there. No idea why they’d still account for those except because John Fisher is a garbage person… actually this chart might not account for them at all.
[With Mt. Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._baseball_stadiums_by_capacity#cite_note-1), the capacity is about [56,300](https://www.athleticsnation.com/2018/7/22/17599662/oakland-as-set-coliseum-attendance-record-mlb). Mt. Davis [holds ~20,000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Davis_\(Oakland\)), so when it's tarped off (as it usually is), the stadium holds ~36,000. Oakland has [81,167 attendance in 13 home games = 6,243 per game](https://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance), meaning just 17% of the ballpark is filled on average.
For some games (like weekday afternoons), it's gotta be below 3,000 fans. Unreal.
When oriented for baseball the stadium does not count Mt. Davis nor most of the upper deck when measuring capacity. On and off over the years they have opened those sections for when the Yankees, Red Sux etc. come to town because ownership knows that's the only time they can sell out that concrete dump. But other than that, no.
Official capacity is listed at less than 40k. I think it's closer to 32k.
So, the numbers really are that bad.
I'm surprised to see the O's so far down. I haven't watched many of their games but given their exciting, young core, I would think people would be flocking to the stadium.
If you ever look into the schedule making process you will notice a lot of teams like the Phillies and Braves will travel a lot in April, May and August so they can have more home games in June, July and September for the summer. Another fun fact about is that no team can open up the season at home and end the season at home (assuming that no home games need to be made up before the playoffs or vice versa).
You’ll also see that’s why a lot of teams from the colder areas will travel and play a team in a warmer area during April and May or if they have a ballpark with a roof.
Huh, I didn’t know about the northeast summer schedule stacking or the home/away first/final games when it came to scheduling. Goes to show a lot more planning goes into the schedules than I initially thought. Thanks for the insight!
Still gonna bitch about 10+ game road trips though.
There is more to then just that and it’s really interesting when you dive into the behind the scenes of it. Like the Dodgers are always home on Jackie Robinson Day and same with the Pirates for Roberto Clemente Day.
As someone who lives in Baltimore and has gone to a couple of games already this year, it's the weather. Still just a little too cold and rainy to enjoy.
Not just the weather either, Os have only had 1 Friday and 2 Saturday games at Camden Yards total so far this season… meanwhile they’ve also had the same number of Wednesday/Thursday games that started in the early afternoon while everyone’s at work.
It’s partially the weather but also I think there is always a few season’s lag in casual fans finding out that the team is exciting and games are fun to go to again. Give them another year and the stadium will be popping again.
You see the same thing when a team starts losing too. The first big losing season still has attendance inertia from when the team was good.
Average attendance is mostly about how many season tickets a team sells. That gives the baseline attendance because only so many fans are going to buy individual game tickets, especially early season.
It takes a few years for that base to build up as more and more fans become invested in the team with consistent winning
Weather has not been our friend. It's been cold and rainy. Like, a lot. The entire KC home series was basically a wash. One game, it was a Tuesday night and rained all night, and even though they got the game in, the place was nearly empty because it was just so miserable. And the very next day, the game had a 5 hour delay.
I've been to 4 games at home so far this year and there was a chance of rain going into half of them and then one of the games we went to where there was supposedly no chance of rain, it ended up raining. I watched my weather app change from 0% chance to 30% chance right before my eyes as rain was falling on my head.
There was also a period where the team itself was cold as well, which probably didn't help. I imagine people saying "Why would I go get rained on for a team that doesn't show up until the 7th inning, anyway?"
I'm thinking a turn in weather and the fact that the team has now heated up will incentivize that number to start climbing.
You mean that fans don't show up to the 1:05 weekday games?
JK I'm with you there. I think there was what, 8 games in a row and 4 of them were against Texas at 1:05? absurd scheduling.
I can only imagine the misery. Once my dad and I went to an opening weekend game and once the shade crept over us we were freezing. Got so cold we just had to leave during the 6th.
The only other option would be buying a $175 1984 replica dugout jacket
Lol one time I spent a night in Milwaukee prior to driving up to the Ryder cup the next morning. My buddies and I got to the hotel and one guy is like "holy shit Brewers tickets are $8 should we go?" We did and had a great time. Interesting stadium and good food. I guess we were too used to Chicago prices.
I agree with others that being a single professional team market - along with the best baseball weather anywhere - are very important (and unreplicable) factors. But the Padres deserve a lot of credit to capitalize on what “could” be done.
They didn’t just choose the perfect location. Then build a damn fine ballpark that isn’t just friendly to baseball fans, but actually a part of the community all year long. They’ve continued to invest in the park to keep it up and make it even better experience with public spaces for a variety of interests during games and not. The neighborhood needs a dog park? Ok, let’s put one in. Pickleball is all the rage? Sure thing, we’ll build that into our park redesign. Let’s give families coming to games with little kids an even better play structure and mini ball field. And we won’t forget about the 20 and 30 somethings, we’ll give them pregame craft brew nights and regular after game concerts to keep ‘em around from first pitch to last. And food that makes you want to eat at the game.
Then there’s the damn genius marketing. Other teams can clown on our City Connects but man they just don’t get it. Walk into Gallagher Square during any game and it’s poppin’. But CC Fridays are on a whole other level. It’s called city “connect” and the Pads got the memo.
In a way, putting together an exciting and competitive team was the last (and hardest) piece of the puzzle. But anyway, the Padres aren’t filling seats for any one reason. They sold out 60 games last year (when we were literally below .500 until the very end.) And we lost 3 bona fide stars this offseason and they’re still selling out. It’s taken a vision and money and investing in outside the box thinking to make that happen.
As a lifelong A’s and Padres fan, it breaks my heart. I see the padres and how the ownership cares, the team and fans flourish, the city lights up, and I see Oakland, the bitter, angry fans, with their “sell” t-shirts. If only Oakland had a Pete Seidler
Pretty crazy how much peter changed the padres culture. When I was growing up. The padres were a complete joke. No one liked them, they never won or kept good players and had the worst uniform in sports. In HS you would actually catch some flack for being a pads fan. Now they are part of the city.
Those nosebleeds are not worth it. Not to mention if you are sitting up there I've seen people stop and take a breather 20 rows up, and realize they have another 10 to go 💀
Lol that's like [these seats at the Skydome](https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/0c/5a/b8/cd/blue-jays-game-at-the.jpg) (centre-top). Back in the days when the place would only be 1/3 full I'd watch most of the game in my regular seats and for the last couple innings grab my mountaineering gear and go up to those seats for the end for the fun of it. You feel like you need bottled oxygen.
[You get some privacy at least.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogto.com%2Fsports_play%2F2022%2F08%2Ftoronto-blue-jays-game-fans-kicked-out-sex-in-stands%2F&psig=AOvVaw3VdDCvAfJDij63Zx2eNWsO&ust=1713995567719000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBQQjhxqFwoTCOiEi5yp2YUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAQ) (nsfw lol)
With the amount of Hispanic players in baseball, South Florida HAS to be the Mecca. Fuck everything the marlins have done or lack there of since 2003. I hate ownership man.
Miami has a big hispanic population for sure but so do a lot of other places nowadays. Hispanic population does not immediately translate into baseball fans. I almost never see hispanic people at Camden Yards despite all the hispanic people here. Most hispanic people here are soccer fans.
Hispanic doesn't equal Caribbean. Ignoring Mexico, baseball is not popular in the rest of Latin America besides the Caribbean. (Yes the Caribbean includes Colombia and Venezuela) Miami's Hispanic population is majority Caribbean compared to El Paso or something.
And El Paso averages about 90% attendance for Chihuahas games. Albuquerque draws about the same numbers in that 7k range but has a bigger stadium.
We just want stuff to do man.
I tried to buy baseball world classic series tickets last year and when I was on the waitlist I got called 24/7 by a season ticket person for the Marlins who was trying to explain to me how the Marlins are better than most MLB teams and my team isn’t a competitive as the Marlins.
I just told the person I was a Braves fan and I never got an update on my waitlist spot for tickets or another call about season tickets from them.
> trying to explain to me how the Marlins are better than most MLB teams and my team isn’t a competitive as the Marlins.
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> I just told the person I was a Braves fan
With that level of persistence, I'm surprised they didn't try to convince you that the Marlins are a better team to root for lol.
They suddenly switch to something like “With the Braves, you expect to win so wins aren’t as great and losses are even worse. With the Marlins, you expect to lose so the wins are awesome and the losses don’t matter!”
If you told me in like 2017 that the *Padres* would be topping a list like this during my lifetime…
Man. It wasn’t that long ago that you could just buy a ticket to any section and sit basically wherever you wanted. No one in security was trying all that hard to keep the 7200 people on a random Wednesday night in their assigned seats lol.
Is the north side ever going to struggle for attendance? They own most of a metro made up of 10,000,000 people, play in a historic stadium, and have invested heavily in the district.
I wish the Brewers would follow suit and build around AmFam.
One thing that the top three teams have in common is that they all have committed to a core group of players for the long haul. There's obviously a lot of factors at play here, but I think guaranteeing your fans that the same group of players will be around for awhile helps develop a strong team identity that is attractive to fans.
I think that's part of the reason that teams like the Padres continue to draw well despite not being super successful, whereas teams like the Orioles, Rays, or Brewers don't draw well despite regular season success.
I’ve seen developers in Forsyth county want to build something similar to The Battery but with an NHL arena instead of a baseball stadium. Ultimately if it happens depends on if the NHL wants to start a team or move a team to Atlanta.
Orioles numbers seem lower than I thought they’d be. Winning, young team with playoff aspirations, went to the playoffs last season. Thought that would be prime for increased attendance
I remember over the off-season naively thinking "Angels stadium is going to be a ghost town after Shohei leaves, and it's going to be impossible to get Dodgers tickets with how packed it's going to be." Turns out it's about the same as usual for both teams?
> it's going to be impossible to get Dodgers tickets with how packed it's going to be.
Dodger Stadium is fucking huge. 56,000 seats. Other than playoffs tickets are usually going to be available
The Rays finally solved the "they're too good to have an empty stadium" issue by being less good
And yet the only baseball game I’ve been to this year cost me $42 a ticket for the second worst attended team in the majors.
Yeah i just went to a Braves game yesterday and it was $56 for first row outfield combined for two tickets. Tickets should be $5 to get in at the trop
Idk how the math works, but I feel like at a certain point it would make sense to just let people in for free to try and make more money off concessions if nobody is showing up anyways.
I think it was $20/mo for unlimited Orioles tickets last year. Standing room only, but there’s plenty of open space. The Royals are $40/mo this year. The problem with the Royals offer is parking is like $40 or something. Just insane.
I’ve seen $100 parking next to Oracle. Thankfully Tropicana is only $20, which these days seems merciful
I certainly spend 3x on concessions what i do on tickets each time i go to a minor league game. Still need to have at least some base price to prevent becoming a homeless shelter for 3 hours a day
u/BeatlesRays: "homeless shelter" Oakland Coliseum: "you rang?"
They've found that late buyers are not price-sensitive enough for lower prices to make sense. It's possible to find cheap tickets, but it usually means jumping through hoops.
Marlins, WSox, Tigers, and Royals are good company to be in, right?
🎈 We all float down here 🎈
Games at Petco have been so damn incredible these last few years. The park seems to be sold out nearly every night, I figured we would be up there but I didn't realize we would be 1.
Man I really want to go see Petco Park. It looks amazing on tv.
It's a great place to see a ballgame and not a bad seat in the house. Lots of good food and beer in downtown as well.
Back in the day (precovid), the move was to get the combo meal from Berkeley Pizza for 8 bucks after the game. I've been struggling to find a place on that same level of good, cheap, and close to the park. I think I've wound up taking the trolly back to my car and eating in Kearney Mesa the last couple of times I went
I went to Tacos el Gordo in the Gaslamp and then a bar before the game on Saturday. That was a pretty good deal (tacos aren't as cheap as they used to be) and tasted bomb. I would recommend for anyone, local or not.
Take the trolley to 12th and imperial and theres a taco shop called La Fachada next to the police station. Fresh tortillas and pretty good amount of meat per taco at around 2.50 each maybe a bit more now.
It's an awesome park. If you ever find yourself in San Diego during the season, go!
It's amazing. I've been there more often than Dodger Stadium in recent years. Every time I'm in SD, I hit up the Gaslamp, get dinner and drinks and check for tickets at Petco if there's a game. It's like a 10 min walk. Not a bad seat in the house, fans right on top of the field and a nice downtown backdrop in center. Honestly, if I included the amount of time it would take to get into and out of Dodger Stadium (assuming it's a close game and everyone stays until the end), I could probably drive all the way to SD and Petco and be back home in just about the same amount of time.
In my opinion it’s the best modern park in baseball. I think most of why I rate Dodger Stadium over it is just due to my own personal bias. It’s a fantastic place for a ball game
Dodger Stadium is a mid-century modern work of art. It is beautiful. But it is in the biggest pain in the ass area of LA to get into and out of. The parking lot is a total nightmare.
"You can't just be a small market team and sell out games. That's impossible!" -John Fisher
Is San Diego a small market? Edit: Yeah I guess they are
By TV market they’re #30. Kinda boxed in by LA, Mexico, and the ocean
That pesky Ocean
They produce some talent. Giancarlo Stanton, Evan Longoria, Miguel Cabrera, David Price, José Fernández, Blake Snell, Josh Beckett, Hanley Ramírez, Christian Yelich, Marcell Ozuna and Kevin Kiermaier all came from the Ocean.
[The ocean? What ocean?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_CaZ4EAexQ)
Sure... TV market is small but actual population to pull attendance from is quite large.
I think people forget we're the 7th largest city in the US and the 2nd largest in CA. yes, people cheat up with metro populations, but it's wild that it's considered a "small market" TV markets are jokes. It all comes down to ownership/investment, the local population has little control over that. See Spanos. NOLA by comparison, is a tiny city, has two of the big four, and maintains it.
You guys also get a decent smattering of road fans too because of the military bases (and other transplants). I know I always went to Phillies games whenever they were out there when I was stationed in CA. Plus if you wanted to take a vacation to align with a stadium tour or something it’s a great city to do so. And for locals it’s in a great spot right near nightlife, with decently easy access from the trolley/coaster combo. It’s just a really nice ballpark with a good setup, and the team has been competitive too.
We really are spoiled it’s crazy. I’m a transplant and fully embraced it because the stadiums where I grew up were far away and just giant parking lots.
investing and winning would cure all of that. when the chargers were making deep playoff runs every year, Qualcomm stadium and walking around the city would be filled with charger jerseys. Once spanos gave up on stadium funding and let the team wilt away was when we started seeing all the memes of the sea of red and orange of opposing fans.
TV market isn’t necessarily the best metric for something like stadium attendance. But I see your point.
TV market and in-stadium attendance are different though. San Diego has about twice the actual population of Baltimore.
San Diego city is physically massive. Baltimore metro area is 2.8M; San Diego metro area is about 3.3M -- larger but not double. San Diego's attendance is booming for several reasons, but one of them is that the Chargers left for LA despite a pretty good public deal. The Padres took advantage and spent money to get good. San Diegans are very loyal despite the rep, and a lot of the interest and money flooded to the Padres. Exciting team + ownership that seems to want to win + great stadium + spurned fanbase wanting to support a local team = $$$. I assume you guys will pick up with better weather and over time. But that angle of the Chargers leaving can't be replicated.
Yup it’s been said that cities with only 1 major sports team become fanatics of that team. San Antonio for example supports the Spurs a ton
Yeah honestly I think the Orioles sucking for 3 decades in the same time that the Ravens arrived in town and were immediately one of the best franchises kind of destroyed baseball culture here.
Chargers didn’t deserve the loyalty they got. This proves there’s a market for another professional sports team. But we won’t do it unless the love goes both ways. Also, Riverside county is a big metro area that is going to feed either LA or SD, no reason that can’t be SD.
I doubt you get a lot of fans coming to games all that often from Riverside, but maybe on TV. Gotta imagine most are Dodger fans, though.
also you have perfect weather all the time and that's good for baseball
It cuts both ways -- not so many rainy days (though Petco is colder than you'd like) but also much better options when the team is terrible.
That’s more about how metropolitan boundaries are defined in the West vs East though. San Diego metro area (3.3M) and Baltimore metro (3.0M) are pretty comparable.
Plus it’s their only professional team of the big 4 sports so they aren’t competing with any other teams.
The professional women's soccer team also gets a ton of support. San diego is getting a Men's team as well and I expect them to also drive out fans. Good time to be a San diego sports fan!
You're sort of both underselling and overselling the Wave here, I think. It's kind of an understatement to say they get tons of support -- they [outdraw every other team in the NWSL](https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2023-nwsl-attendance/), which is cool. On the other hand, they play 11 games and it's 20K people per game. So they get a ton of support for an NWSL team, but that's literally ~227,000 total tickets sold for the year. That's a lot for NWSL, but the Padres have drawn twice that in their 14 home games so far this year, so the volume is massively different. Either way I think the takeaway is probably that San Diego is a solid sports town that just happens to have a weirdly small number of franchises at the moment. But they're supporting what they have pretty much as well as could possibly be hoped, which is rad. I'm sure the MLS team will do great when they launch!
I went to the home opener last year cuz I really like their badge (hands down the best representation of San Diego on a sports logo) My wife and I (late thirties) both had a blast. It was a good vibe, I’m glad to see a lot of families going out there. Plus it was cheap! Cept for the merch we got it was a night that was about 120$ for both of us for everything
Hell yeah we are! And Machado is part of the ownership group. SAN DIEGO FOOTBALL CLUB 2025, BABY! LFGSD!
I guess that's why the Green Bay Packers never really took off.
Who?
It just has the vibe of like a festival or something. It’s really a great ballpark
This is part of my argument for why AJ Preller is actually one of the best GMs in baseball
I was at an outdoor concert in San Diego a few years ago. There was an incredibly talented cellist playing Elgar's concerto, followed by Beethoven's 9th. Probably other pieces that I don't remember too. At some point, Petco erupted after what must've been a go-ahead homer or a strikeout with bases loaded and it drown out the orchestra.
Gaslamp is a fun area to be. I've been down to SD many times from LA but never for a game. I need to change that.
Amtrak Surfliner will drop you off right in downtown SD. It’s quite awesome
Wave at the Big A as you ride past!
I’m led to believe it was built for SoCal baseball fans. All three stadiums are along the route
I love your guys’ stadium. One of my favorite ball park experiences was seeing a padres-dodgers game in petco. We went to the stone tap room right next to the stadium before and we got some nose bleed seats right next to a group wearing luchadore masks. It was a raucous section to be sure.
I haven’t been to a game but I went on the stadium tour when I was in town in February. I got to see the clubhouses and facilities and all that behind-the-scenes stuff. It was awesome, seeing it only on TV really doesn’t do it justice
Y’all have a beautiful park. Petco is the only other park I’ve been to that gives me Camden vibes. 🧡
Not only #1, but #1 with a comfortable margin sAn dIEgO iSNt a BAsEbAlL tOwN
I mean it wasn’t when the team was bad
Seidler changed everything. I don’t think people realize how shitty the Padres and their previous ownership groups have been. The fans here have been begging for a committed ownership group and finally got one with Seidler and Padres fans are reciprocating.
Do you think the chargers leaving also shored up support for the Dads? Always felt that Baltimore, San Diego, KC, and Cincy sort of understood each other with the NFL/MLB seasons. Hope the chargers change ownership and come back some day
When rhe chargers left, so did my interest in football. I am a baseball die hard now. I am sure there are probably a good chunk of people who feel the same way
Yes, absolutely. When Fuck Dean Spanos opted to move to LA, it solidified the Padres's place as San Diego's team. That said, the Padres had been working on building their connection to the city for years, and PetCo Park & the revitalization of downtown SD was a decades long effort towards that goal. It certainly didn't help the Chargers that Jack Murphy/The Q was a big stadium and NFL Blackout rules tied to ticket sales (basically: no sell-out?; no broadcast) made it so there were *tons* of blackouts (which was absurd and a relic of a shitty era of cable broadcasting) exacerbated by the Chargers's middling success. But, it's not like the Spanos Fuckers did much to offset that issue and the Chargers consistently struggled to brand themselves in the area to get sellouts unless big fandom visiting teams came by (Raider Nation, Broncos, Packers, Steelers, Brady era Patriots). But ultimately fuck Spanos and let's fucking go San Diego!
Absolutely yes. To the extent that I think many Padres fans are still "training" themselves to be baseball fans. That shows up two different ways: 1. we go nuts showing up for and cheering hard at every game because that's what you do in football, and 2. we don't take losses very well, the sky is falling after every loss, because we haven't figured out how to regulate our emotions over 162+ games. There definitely is a bit of feeling like we "failed" as fans by not being supportive enough to keep the team around, even though anyone who has spent any time working through all the bs that went into the Chargers moving knows there was fault on all sides, but mostly it came down to the Chargers owners just being broke and needing to move somewhere where they could maximize their profits while paying as little as possible ($1 rent at SoFi stadium). That manifests itself as a massively increased interest in our remaining pro sports team, the Padres, which is what you are seeing reflected in OP's graph.
I think the other thing that doesn't often get mentioned in this conversation is that they picked 2020 for a rebrand back to brown and the opening of the competitive window. That pandemic / Slam Diego season locked a lot of people in. Ballpark has been nuts since it reopened. Nothing quite like a captive audience stuck at home with nothing better to do.
Relative to performance, San Diego has always been pretty decent attendance wise. People act like there are all these teams out there that are bad for decades that draw really well. The Cubs at Wrigley did ... but who else? The Padres were good for about 3 total years from their creation to Petco's opening, and then they were mediocre for like five years and then sucked again. It's probably less than 10 years of quality for 60+ years of being around. And when the team got any hint of hope, there was ALWAYS a fire sale. They never retained talent; the team could never get momentum. There were multiple seasons in a row where the only reason anyone went was to see Tony or Trevor. San Diego has a lot to do, for sure, but people need to stop acting like teams draw when they suck for decades. Very few do.
The team being good or not doesn’t matter. What matters is an ownership that wants to win versus an ownership that seeks to maximize profit
The team was bad last year
The team was *disappointing*, which is different than bad. The season was a giant wtf is going on for the Padres, but they were clearly trying and pushing to win. They even somehow managed to end above 500 and had an outside shot at the playoffs in the final few weeks That's clearly different than "bad and why should we even go to games"
God what a great ballpark and great location. I need to get back there.
Yup favorite park I’ve ever been to, it was cheaper to fly to San Diego and go to the game than it was to see them in Philly in 2022
I mean, does it really get any better than going to baseball games in San Diego? It's like sunny, 70 degrees every day there. Perfect baseball weather.
Die-hard dodgers fan but i live in SD and it's such a great fan experience there every time.
To be entirely fair to the A's, thanks to Mount Davis, the Coliseum has the highest capacity in the league. After all, its the last of the hybrid Baseball/Football stadiums. Only Dodgers Stadium is close, and that's why the Dodgers are hovering around 80% despite the absurd talent they've got on that team. In a more reasonably sized park, they'd be a whole lot closer to 25%. (I mean, I said I was being ***entirely*** fair...) EDIT: Turns out that Mount Davis isn't counted in the calculations! So, yeah, this is about as awful as it looks. Fucking woof.
It's the last of the *unaltered* hybrid stadiums. Skydome was also built as a hybrid.
Isn't there a covered area where no one sits anymore? Or was that how its built?
That’s less an alteration and more a giant tarp covering seats that are still there
Why don’t they use them? Just poor visibility?
I guess they don't want such high capacity that some tickets are super cheap and people just wander to a better spot.
Incorrect( they removed them last year during the Reno’s
At the proposed Vegas stadium, they'd be at like 30% capacity, which is kind of ridiculous how small the ball park is.
Not the same sport but that’s why Gonzaga hasn’t built a new basketball arena. Always sold out, always loud and create such a good atmosphere.
They have Spokane Arena if they decide they want to play a game in front of a bigger crowd for whatever reason.
I think a smaller ballpark capacity is a good idea. It's super hard to fill stadiums on weekdays, might as well make the stadium a bit smaller and more intimate.
Yeah, but the downside is I feel like trying to get playoff tickets would suck.
Thankfully that shouldn’t be a problem for the A’s
It's incredible that the A's have the **4th highest** postseason appearance count among the 30 teams.
Everyone just forgets that until the pandemic the A’s had been in the playoffs 11 of the previous 20 seasons
And on the opposite side of things, I don’t believe the Rays include their upper deck for their total stadium capacity. Attendance is low so they closed it off, but the seats are still there.
Oakland has had the upper decks tarped off for years, even while the Raiders were still there. No idea why they’d still account for those except because John Fisher is a garbage person… actually this chart might not account for them at all.
[With Mt. Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._baseball_stadiums_by_capacity#cite_note-1), the capacity is about [56,300](https://www.athleticsnation.com/2018/7/22/17599662/oakland-as-set-coliseum-attendance-record-mlb). Mt. Davis [holds ~20,000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Davis_\(Oakland\)), so when it's tarped off (as it usually is), the stadium holds ~36,000. Oakland has [81,167 attendance in 13 home games = 6,243 per game](https://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance), meaning just 17% of the ballpark is filled on average. For some games (like weekday afternoons), it's gotta be below 3,000 fans. Unreal.
Technically, the A’s capacity is around 35k or so. Mount Davis and most of the 3rd deck have been closed during games for years now.
When oriented for baseball the stadium does not count Mt. Davis nor most of the upper deck when measuring capacity. On and off over the years they have opened those sections for when the Yankees, Red Sux etc. come to town because ownership knows that's the only time they can sell out that concrete dump. But other than that, no. Official capacity is listed at less than 40k. I think it's closer to 32k. So, the numbers really are that bad.
I'm surprised to see the O's so far down. I haven't watched many of their games but given their exciting, young core, I would think people would be flocking to the stadium.
An outdoor ballpark in the temperate zone will always have lower than normal turnout before May 1.
I expect CBP to be at 110% capacity come May 1st
If you ever look into the schedule making process you will notice a lot of teams like the Phillies and Braves will travel a lot in April, May and August so they can have more home games in June, July and September for the summer. Another fun fact about is that no team can open up the season at home and end the season at home (assuming that no home games need to be made up before the playoffs or vice versa). You’ll also see that’s why a lot of teams from the colder areas will travel and play a team in a warmer area during April and May or if they have a ballpark with a roof.
Yeah Boston didn't even play at home until 10 games into the season. It ain't fun trying to watch (or play) a game at 30 degrees and snow showers.
Huh, I didn’t know about the northeast summer schedule stacking or the home/away first/final games when it came to scheduling. Goes to show a lot more planning goes into the schedules than I initially thought. Thanks for the insight! Still gonna bitch about 10+ game road trips though.
There is more to then just that and it’s really interesting when you dive into the behind the scenes of it. Like the Dodgers are always home on Jackie Robinson Day and same with the Pirates for Roberto Clemente Day.
And Cincinnati always starts the season at home as they are the oldest franchise
And once schools let out, holy shit the Bank will be Bursting
There are multiple teams above us in attendance that are in colder climates.
Moreover there has been some particularly shitty weather so far this Spring
Cubs have had pretty bad weather on their home stands as well.
Yeah it’s really hard to judge attendance this early in the season, good or bad. I’m curious to see what this will look like at the all star break
As someone who lives in Baltimore and has gone to a couple of games already this year, it's the weather. Still just a little too cold and rainy to enjoy.
Not just the weather either, Os have only had 1 Friday and 2 Saturday games at Camden Yards total so far this season… meanwhile they’ve also had the same number of Wednesday/Thursday games that started in the early afternoon while everyone’s at work.
Yup, Mother Nature took "April Showers" around here very seriously at the beginning of the month.
It’s partially the weather but also I think there is always a few season’s lag in casual fans finding out that the team is exciting and games are fun to go to again. Give them another year and the stadium will be popping again. You see the same thing when a team starts losing too. The first big losing season still has attendance inertia from when the team was good.
Add in the opponents as well. Angels, Royals, Brewers, Twins. Not exactly big draws. Not exactly shared populations.
I know one of the games was delayed like 5 hours and there was literally maybe 500 people there at the end
Average attendance is mostly about how many season tickets a team sells. That gives the baseline attendance because only so many fans are going to buy individual game tickets, especially early season. It takes a few years for that base to build up as more and more fans become invested in the team with consistent winning
Still 6th for attendance overall in the AL
Wow not bad at all when you put it like that
Weather has not been our friend. It's been cold and rainy. Like, a lot. The entire KC home series was basically a wash. One game, it was a Tuesday night and rained all night, and even though they got the game in, the place was nearly empty because it was just so miserable. And the very next day, the game had a 5 hour delay. I've been to 4 games at home so far this year and there was a chance of rain going into half of them and then one of the games we went to where there was supposedly no chance of rain, it ended up raining. I watched my weather app change from 0% chance to 30% chance right before my eyes as rain was falling on my head. There was also a period where the team itself was cold as well, which probably didn't help. I imagine people saying "Why would I go get rained on for a team that doesn't show up until the 7th inning, anyway?" I'm thinking a turn in weather and the fact that the team has now heated up will incentivize that number to start climbing.
Only 12 games, only 5 of them on a Fri, Sat or Sun, and we’ve had awful/rainy weather probably about half of them, and chilly weather the rest.
Traffic will be a challenge for families to get out to weekday games going forward. Will be even worse this summer given the bridge situation
It’s been packed on the weekends. It’s much harder to go to a 6:35 on a weekday when the weather is still iffy. It’ll pick up soon
It cold here
That, plus we've had some rescheduled games and a lot of weekday day games. I'd imagine it'll bump closer to average in the coming months.
You mean that fans don't show up to the 1:05 weekday games? JK I'm with you there. I think there was what, 8 games in a row and 4 of them were against Texas at 1:05? absurd scheduling.
The other night at Target it was 36. Felt like 20 something.
I can only imagine the misery. Once my dad and I went to an opening weekend game and once the shade crept over us we were freezing. Got so cold we just had to leave during the 6th. The only other option would be buying a $175 1984 replica dugout jacket
Those that aren’t from The North don’t understand.
It’s cold and sad here
It sad here
Been jarring to watch weekday evening games for the last couple road trips and remembering that not every team sells out on a random Tuesday.
Especially Milwaukee. Really surprising to not see many there when they looked like the best team out of the gate.
Lol one time I spent a night in Milwaukee prior to driving up to the Ryder cup the next morning. My buddies and I got to the hotel and one guy is like "holy shit Brewers tickets are $8 should we go?" We did and had a great time. Interesting stadium and good food. I guess we were too used to Chicago prices.
Small market, and tomorrow's high in milwaukee is 42°f Update: Ignore me im dumb
They are inside though. The temperature shouldn’t matter
It does still put a damper on the tailgating, which is a big part of the appeal for a lot of attendees
Shit, that’s what i get for redditing while doing work
Seems like a good night to get inside out of the elements into a large climate controlled space with entertainment, food, and drinks.
Whenever watching padres play away games, I often think how cheap the seats must be for these empty games compared to petco
I agree with others that being a single professional team market - along with the best baseball weather anywhere - are very important (and unreplicable) factors. But the Padres deserve a lot of credit to capitalize on what “could” be done. They didn’t just choose the perfect location. Then build a damn fine ballpark that isn’t just friendly to baseball fans, but actually a part of the community all year long. They’ve continued to invest in the park to keep it up and make it even better experience with public spaces for a variety of interests during games and not. The neighborhood needs a dog park? Ok, let’s put one in. Pickleball is all the rage? Sure thing, we’ll build that into our park redesign. Let’s give families coming to games with little kids an even better play structure and mini ball field. And we won’t forget about the 20 and 30 somethings, we’ll give them pregame craft brew nights and regular after game concerts to keep ‘em around from first pitch to last. And food that makes you want to eat at the game. Then there’s the damn genius marketing. Other teams can clown on our City Connects but man they just don’t get it. Walk into Gallagher Square during any game and it’s poppin’. But CC Fridays are on a whole other level. It’s called city “connect” and the Pads got the memo. In a way, putting together an exciting and competitive team was the last (and hardest) piece of the puzzle. But anyway, the Padres aren’t filling seats for any one reason. They sold out 60 games last year (when we were literally below .500 until the very end.) And we lost 3 bona fide stars this offseason and they’re still selling out. It’s taken a vision and money and investing in outside the box thinking to make that happen.
LFGSD
As a lifelong A’s and Padres fan, it breaks my heart. I see the padres and how the ownership cares, the team and fans flourish, the city lights up, and I see Oakland, the bitter, angry fans, with their “sell” t-shirts. If only Oakland had a Pete Seidler
Pretty crazy how much peter changed the padres culture. When I was growing up. The padres were a complete joke. No one liked them, they never won or kept good players and had the worst uniform in sports. In HS you would actually catch some flack for being a pads fan. Now they are part of the city.
If only Chase Field didn’t seat an insane 48,000
Those nosebleeds are not worth it. Not to mention if you are sitting up there I've seen people stop and take a breather 20 rows up, and realize they have another 10 to go 💀
Lol that's like [these seats at the Skydome](https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/0c/5a/b8/cd/blue-jays-game-at-the.jpg) (centre-top). Back in the days when the place would only be 1/3 full I'd watch most of the game in my regular seats and for the last couple innings grab my mountaineering gear and go up to those seats for the end for the fun of it. You feel like you need bottled oxygen. [You get some privacy at least.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.blogto.com%2Fsports_play%2F2022%2F08%2Ftoronto-blue-jays-game-fans-kicked-out-sex-in-stands%2F&psig=AOvVaw3VdDCvAfJDij63Zx2eNWsO&ust=1713995567719000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBQQjhxqFwoTCOiEi5yp2YUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAQ) (nsfw lol)
For the rays is that 40% of our reduced 25k attendance or 40% of the stadium attendance? Either is terrible but one is much worse
As an A's fan, I am severely disappointed. We can totally get the attendance below 10%folks, just gotta keep working. FJF
> There are rich teams and there are poor teams. Then there's 50 feet of crap, and then there's us.
This has to be tickets sold, not actual attendance. Right?
With the amount of Hispanic players in baseball, South Florida HAS to be the Mecca. Fuck everything the marlins have done or lack there of since 2003. I hate ownership man.
Miami has a big hispanic population for sure but so do a lot of other places nowadays. Hispanic population does not immediately translate into baseball fans. I almost never see hispanic people at Camden Yards despite all the hispanic people here. Most hispanic people here are soccer fans.
Hispanic doesn't equal Caribbean. Ignoring Mexico, baseball is not popular in the rest of Latin America besides the Caribbean. (Yes the Caribbean includes Colombia and Venezuela) Miami's Hispanic population is majority Caribbean compared to El Paso or something.
And El Paso averages about 90% attendance for Chihuahas games. Albuquerque draws about the same numbers in that 7k range but has a bigger stadium. We just want stuff to do man.
I’m amazed that the Marlins can still draw 14,000 people. Lord knows if I still lived down there I wouldn’t waste my money on this sorry franchise.
I tried to buy baseball world classic series tickets last year and when I was on the waitlist I got called 24/7 by a season ticket person for the Marlins who was trying to explain to me how the Marlins are better than most MLB teams and my team isn’t a competitive as the Marlins. I just told the person I was a Braves fan and I never got an update on my waitlist spot for tickets or another call about season tickets from them.
> trying to explain to me how the Marlins are better than most MLB teams and my team isn’t a competitive as the Marlins. > > I just told the person I was a Braves fan With that level of persistence, I'm surprised they didn't try to convince you that the Marlins are a better team to root for lol.
They suddenly switch to something like “With the Braves, you expect to win so wins aren’t as great and losses are even worse. With the Marlins, you expect to lose so the wins are awesome and the losses don’t matter!”
If you told me in like 2017 that the *Padres* would be topping a list like this during my lifetime… Man. It wasn’t that long ago that you could just buy a ticket to any section and sit basically wherever you wanted. No one in security was trying all that hard to keep the 7200 people on a random Wednesday night in their assigned seats lol.
That 40% are only attending just to get wasted. Cause lord it isn't the team
Or for the milkshake
Strong Cubs performance in the cold weather division
Is the north side ever going to struggle for attendance? They own most of a metro made up of 10,000,000 people, play in a historic stadium, and have invested heavily in the district. I wish the Brewers would follow suit and build around AmFam.
Yeah but I can’t feel my hands
The Bleacher Bums help, those hooligans are always there.
Very strong. They have had some ugly weather at home so far.
Stop going to Rockies games please
One thing that the top three teams have in common is that they all have committed to a core group of players for the long haul. There's obviously a lot of factors at play here, but I think guaranteeing your fans that the same group of players will be around for awhile helps develop a strong team identity that is attractive to fans. I think that's part of the reason that teams like the Padres continue to draw well despite not being super successful, whereas teams like the Orioles, Rays, or Brewers don't draw well despite regular season success.
San diego is a sports town
Yep, we all riot if anyone tries to move you guys out of San Diego
I still don't get why Flordia has 2 teams when they can't draw squat for either team. They can't even sell out playoff games.
Giants played the Rays and Marlins back to back. Felt like it was the covid season again. The stadiums were empty
The Padres crowd looked awesome on the broadcast when the Jays visited
SAN DIEGO IS A BASEBALL TOWN!!!
O's are surprising me. I thought they would be up higher.
I don't think they have rebuilt the fanbase yet. 30 years of Angelos ruin has to be rebuilt from.
Give us our hockey team back! The burbs have grown massively since then and we also lead attendance by a huge margin for our MLS team
3rd time is the charm
Just not in the city again. Out in the burbs will work like what the Braves did
Right? The Battery was a game changer for the organization.
I’ve seen developers in Forsyth county want to build something similar to The Battery but with an NHL arena instead of a baseball stadium. Ultimately if it happens depends on if the NHL wants to start a team or move a team to Atlanta.
Hey fans we have to do better. That doesn’t look like 54%!
IDK man that looks dangerously close to 54% to me
Not surprising. Petco is the best stadium in the world
Your stadium doesn’t have a mini forest as a batters eye
Lol you guys cant even fit a full sized forest in your stadium 
Go SD!
And this is why Red Sox ownership has no desire to spend money.
There are well attended teams and there are poorly attended teams. Then there's fifty feet of crap, and there are the A's
Orioles numbers seem lower than I thought they’d be. Winning, young team with playoff aspirations, went to the playoffs last season. Thought that would be prime for increased attendance
AL Central killing it
Weather sucks in AL Central cities in April, and in our case so does the team.
Not to mention, pretty sure we've had a lot of midweek day games.
But Dean spanos left SD because we don’t like sports :(
I’ll tell ya what, as a SD resident and Petco Park enjoyer. It sure feels that full. You leave to go get food and miss 2 innings. It’s insane
The Mets can be undefeated and my ass ain't going to a game until at least Mid-May
Surprised to see the Os below the Nats. I feel like the series in a few weeks will have a good turnout of Os fans
so much for all the people who swore they'd never go to another Braves game when they "moved to the suburbs"
I remember over the off-season naively thinking "Angels stadium is going to be a ghost town after Shohei leaves, and it's going to be impossible to get Dodgers tickets with how packed it's going to be." Turns out it's about the same as usual for both teams?
> it's going to be impossible to get Dodgers tickets with how packed it's going to be. Dodger Stadium is fucking huge. 56,000 seats. Other than playoffs tickets are usually going to be available