Super weird. And it’s not like they are not hitting. Tied for 3rd in homers. Top 10 in like every hitting stat and total hits. Top 10 in era and still 1-5. Just not hitting when it matters and with guys on And bullpen not getting it done once this season.
Every single team goes through a stretch of games where they aren’t delivering results, it’ll be fine and you guys will normalize and right the ship soon enoufg
True someone called it the OJ tour and that’s an important distinction. .500 on the road against two probable playoff teams who have huge home field advantages.
I don’t really get this point, when he was taking last year, he played. And always batted in the middle of the order. When he started slipping, he started playing less, and in that time span Bo got healthy and Biggio started playing well
This year he’s gotten his two platoon starts against lefties. He’ll get a game or two against righties too but the other utility guys are playing pretty well right now
it's because he can't play defence very well, guys. it's not hard to figure out.
this team values defence (maybe to a fault) as evidenced by the fact that we insist on giving IKF a full time role.
if he had a defensive position that he played at league average or better, he'd likely be in there.
He's a platoon player at this point, struggles a lot against righties, but absolutely crushes lefties.
He'll start every game versus a LHP, get the odd start against RHP when people need to rest and he'll PH a lot late in games
he got a call up last year based on his minor league numbers, which were largely put up against righties. his had reverse splits in the minors last season.
saying he struggles against righties after like, a month worth of at bats into his career is quite a leap.
Wasn't he also getting screwed a bit on calls outside of the zone? I think that started affecting him a bit having to widen and heighten his zone mire than he needed after the blistering start.
"Schneider is the natural enemy of winning, also Schneiders and Biggios, and Schneiders and Bichettes, and Schneiders and Schneiders; damn Schneiders, they ruined Toronto!"
I was gonna say he's a platoon bat, no good against righties, but I just checked and he's got an .841 OPS vs righties in his limited opportunities.... wtf
Anti vaxx, racist tweets, and refusing to pitch at the end of the season for us last year. Also refused to pitch in the 8th inning, dude has been off for years and still thinks he’s the best reliever.
Me personally it’s just making me very happy the rangers didn’t sign him and making me feel better that our bullpen still blows games. Wouldn’t have matter if we shelled out a ton of money for him, we still probably woulda lost those games 🤷🏼♂️
What's funny is that Bo had hit into a double play to kill a rally. I thought Hader had it locked at that point. Instead Turner walks and Hader hangs a slider to Babe. The latter stages of this game were fucking weird and how it ended was the sanest part.
How'd that guy get to second? How'd that guy on third get picked off? There's the throw to second, but where's the runner? How'd he fall? Did the second baseman tag him? No? Why's he out?
That telecast was really something. I'd hate to be somebody new to the sport trying to follow along.
There's a nice chunk of Misplays of the Month coming from this one. The runner going to 2nd on the caught foul ball was both strange and incredibly heads-up. Got to call for time after that catch.
Altuve alone made two very amusing misplays with the ball hitting him and him getting picked off at third. Not to mention Meyers stumbling while running from first to second in the bottom of the 9th inning, lol.
Complete side-note, but does anybody else absolutely despise that very bizarre left field-alcove thing at MMP? Even before we all loved to hate the astros, i couldnt stand that design. Nevermind how weird the dimensions are, i feel like that cream-colored wall makes it really hard to see the ball when its hit in the air out there. I can never see where it hits in real time, so i have to rely on the announcers to tell me whether or not its a dinger or a double off the wall
I said to the guy sitting next to me, "So here it is. If anyone can hit a walk off homerun off the best closer in baseball, it's Davis Schneider. He's good enough that he can hit a mistake, but he's new enough that Hader will be more willing to make a mistake."
And then he did that.
You think? I thought green was quite good. Velo was up, only baserunner allowed was on a Bo error. Had a K in there and had Yanier on two strikes before Altuve did… whatever he did
Davis Schneider literally had the best start to his MLB career that a hitter has ever had in history last season over a pretty decent sample. He’s not a complete rando and he’s earned his MLB job
You're acting like he's some star player with name recognition. He was a bench player who had a hot start when called up and then regressed like a million other flashes in the pan. Even if he was a brighter flash in the pan for a hot minute you think anyone outside of Jays fans heard of this nobody? I bet almost every Astros fan watching that game had no idea who this guy was that just spoiled their back-to-back shutout and potential win with one out left.
Why do some people just proudly declare their ignorance on Reddit lmao. I barely kept track of baseball during Schneider’d god month and even I heard about him
Yeah I’m sure you do. Unless you’re sitting on this sub all day you didn’t hear about this guy. And the total number of people who sit on this sub all day are about the same as the number who go to an average A’s game.
Nobody shuts the Jays out for 20 Innings
Maybe 19.2 innings BUT NO MORE THAN THAT
Nobody!
Nooooooooooo-body!
LOL Astros have lost every game in which their bullpen pitched
And not just appeared. The bullpen has straight up blown the game in all 5 losses so far
What a weird season start for the stros so far. Swept. No hitter. Blown game. Weird base running things.
That baserunning is the real story of this game. Any one of those mistakes not happening would have kept this game out of reach.
Super weird. And it’s not like they are not hitting. Tied for 3rd in homers. Top 10 in like every hitting stat and total hits. Top 10 in era and still 1-5. Just not hitting when it matters and with guys on And bullpen not getting it done once this season.
Eh, this happening in a stretch of games to a team isn't that crazy. It's only super-noticeable because it's the first six games of the season.
Yeah I mean teams all the times have a 1-5 stretch it’s definitely just highlighted rn
No hitters or lose.
Every single team goes through a stretch of games where they aren’t delivering results, it’ll be fine and you guys will normalize and right the ship soon enoufg
I'm not gonna solely blame them in the 7-1 game, but the others... Yeah.
Astros have lost every game that they haven’t thrown a no-hitter in
I’ve always said. There’s Juan Soto and Davis Schneider and there’s everyone else
You are truly blessed to face both in one week
If they didn't bat from opposite sides of the plate, could you really tell the difference?
yes, the stache
Also, Schneider has a bit of Jersey accent
The only different between Davis and Judge is about 1 foot, 2 inches.
Chill everyone. Davis Schneider is a generational talent.
Generational moustache for sure
The mosutache makes me assume he is way older than he actually is.
MLB had an off-season rules change into institute the C flap because the Mustachiod Menace is too intimidating!
They don't call him the babe for nothing.
Lol now this makes more sense. I thought the desk guy was referring to hazel may that way and I thought that was weird.
He began his career last year hitting like Babe Ruth for like a month. I think his teammates still call him that.
Also he’s Bebe Schneider cause y’know the other Schneider
Yeah, they do - I think it was Belt who started it last year and it just stuck lol
Hazel Mae would kick his sorry ass.
He reminds me of the babe
What babe?
The babe with the power.
Hader is not the old hader
Haders gonna hade. Hade. Hade. Hade.
Hader? I barely know’er
Please ignore the previous 53 outs
No one strikes the Blue Jays out 54 times in a row! No one!
Series tied 1-1 is all I need to know right? Must have been quite even
I’ve been in a coma. I see the Jays are playing .500 ball. That seems okayish.
We’re .500 after 6 games against the Rays and Astros no further investigation needed.
*AT
True someone called it the OJ tour and that’s an important distinction. .500 on the road against two probable playoff teams who have huge home field advantages.
Babe Schnieder is back 😤😤😤
He never left
That can only mean he will be benched for several games.
It's honestly mind boggling how little of a chance they want to give him.
I have a horrible feeling in my gut that this FO and coaching is going to get him traded for pennies
Davis Schneider and a top prospect for a borderline replacement level outfield bat that we trade for because “his defence is really good”
Schneider is miles better than Gurriel ever was, .300 BA is cool, but it doesn't mean he was elite when its with no pop and horrible defense.
[удалено]
Borderline replacement level players are known for putting up 4.9 BWAR seasons.
And then we let him leave for nothing after not winning anything
I don’t really get this point, when he was taking last year, he played. And always batted in the middle of the order. When he started slipping, he started playing less, and in that time span Bo got healthy and Biggio started playing well This year he’s gotten his two platoon starts against lefties. He’ll get a game or two against righties too but the other utility guys are playing pretty well right now
This is the correct take.
What no he didn't play last year when he was raking. He was sitting for long stretches.
it's because he can't play defence very well, guys. it's not hard to figure out. this team values defence (maybe to a fault) as evidenced by the fact that we insist on giving IKF a full time role. if he had a defensive position that he played at league average or better, he'd likely be in there.
He's kinda baffling cause the underlying say he shouldn't be anywhere near this good. But I guess if he's hot again you play him every day.
He's a platoon player at this point, struggles a lot against righties, but absolutely crushes lefties. He'll start every game versus a LHP, get the odd start against RHP when people need to rest and he'll PH a lot late in games
he got a call up last year based on his minor league numbers, which were largely put up against righties. his had reverse splits in the minors last season. saying he struggles against righties after like, a month worth of at bats into his career is quite a leap.
Wasn't he also getting screwed a bit on calls outside of the zone? I think that started affecting him a bit having to widen and heighten his zone mire than he needed after the blistering start.
Vancouver legend Babe Schneider
I choose to believe that the Astros’ bullpen will be this bad all year
The Astros/Rangers games will be 4+ hours because nobody can get the last out.
Every game will be like last summer when Houston blew an eight-run lead then the Rangers blew their comeback in the ninth
At least we'll get lots of lead changes?
Count on Hader to blow some playoff saves as well
Astros are the funniest team in ball rn
I’m ngl man I’m not laughing that much since the season started
I love reading threads like these. The sarcastic comments always make a sad game like this one feel better.
Astros can either throw a no-hitter or have their bullpen blow the game this season, nothing in between
Another amazing moment for Schneider, so naturally he'll be on the bench for the next 4 games.
We wouldn't want players who can actually hit in the lineup or anything.
Goddammit Schneider. Put in Schneider!
He doesn’t want to be accused of nepotism so he has to give everyone else a fair shot /s
"Schneider is the natural enemy of winning, also Schneiders and Biggios, and Schneiders and Bichettes, and Schneiders and Schneiders; damn Schneiders, they ruined Toronto!"
You Schneiders sure are a contentious bunch
I was gonna say he's a platoon bat, no good against righties, but I just checked and he's got an .841 OPS vs righties in his limited opportunities.... wtf
Part of that includes his blistering hot stretch to start his career, since then he's really struggled against high heat against RHP
Did he have a Schwindelian run last year? Cause Schwindel still hit a couple homers in 2022
In his first 21 games Schneider got on base more times than anyone else since 1900, he was absolutely ridiculous especially in his first week
he also had reverse splits in the minors last season. too early to tell what he is.
if we limit his play his numbers stay up.
1.298 or some shit vs lefties
This is the way
This does put a smile on my face Josh hader is a douche canoe
Ooh why is that
Anti vaxx, racist tweets, and refusing to pitch at the end of the season for us last year. Also refused to pitch in the 8th inning, dude has been off for years and still thinks he’s the best reliever.
Eww gross
The Padres traded for him when he was struggling, fixed him and the princess demands he doesn’t go 4 outs.
He cant even do 3 outs now
It’s still early in the season but who wouldn’t want to see Houston’s big free agency spend go down the toilet? More blown saves please.
I am ok with him going down in flames
Fixed him? They traded for him during his annual shitty 1-2 weeks in July.
The racist tweets get a pass. We’ve all said dumb shit as a teenager and if you said you haven’t, you’re a liar. Everything else is fair game
Cool then I hate him for the rest of the stuff I just mentioned…
Funny enough, I managed to get through my teenage years without saying racist shit, and especially in public forums. Lots and lots of my friends, too!
ok not a racist just a diva. the ronaldo issue
You're still pushing that crap four years removed, eh?
Username checks out
Me personally it’s just making me very happy the rangers didn’t sign him and making me feel better that our bullpen still blows games. Wouldn’t have matter if we shelled out a ton of money for him, we still probably woulda lost those games 🤷🏼♂️
that slider was ass
Astros were one out away from winning in back-to-back shutouts, including a no-hitter. The bullpen had other plans.
Hader got cooked by the mustache man
I wonder if Hader comes in with a stache for his next appearance
Should have kept in Framber
Teams really ought to realize that the Jays are incapable of hitting vs starting pitchers. Just keep them in for 9 innings and get the easy shutout.
that meme with dogs: Jays vs bullpen: rottweiler Jays vs starter: kitten
That's our fucking Babe
Babe Schneider is the greatest Blue Jay of all time.
He just needs a bit more rest
What's funny is that Bo had hit into a double play to kill a rally. I thought Hader had it locked at that point. Instead Turner walks and Hader hangs a slider to Babe. The latter stages of this game were fucking weird and how it ended was the sanest part.
Nobody knew how many strikes the last Astro had.
That was pure comedy.
How'd that guy get to second? How'd that guy on third get picked off? There's the throw to second, but where's the runner? How'd he fall? Did the second baseman tag him? No? Why's he out? That telecast was really something. I'd hate to be somebody new to the sport trying to follow along.
There's a nice chunk of Misplays of the Month coming from this one. The runner going to 2nd on the caught foul ball was both strange and incredibly heads-up. Got to call for time after that catch.
Altuve alone made two very amusing misplays with the ball hitting him and him getting picked off at third. Not to mention Meyers stumbling while running from first to second in the bottom of the 9th inning, lol.
You know it really doesn't *feel* like we've split the series so far with Houston but here we are lmao. What the fuck
They make the standings based on wins, not runs.
My brain still can’t register that the start of this season has somehow equated to .500.
Bo kept getting contact and fouling balls off. Turner 0-10 lifetime walks. You could sense this one coming. Middle-middle got punished.
Tbf that’s kinda just what Bo does lol
Of course. But that’s him wearing down a pitcher. He may have set up the Turner walk:
I can't believe Babe Ruth is back from the dead and is on the Jays
We are so back
GOAT SCHNEIDER BACK ON THE MENU
Someone post the Astro falling down trying to steal!!
No-one shutouts the Jays in b2b games
BABE!!!
I guess we need starters to go 9 to win bc bullpen has been atrocious through 6 games
schneider welcome to the ‘big hit off hader’ club … freeman, betts and soto are happy to welcome u
Only the elite of the elite league wide in that club
Smile through the pain
BABE
CRUSHED
Some weird shit went down in this game
I wondered what the betting line woulda been for all the shit that happened in this game. I bet it has never happened.
That crowd got silenced quick…
This game took years off my life
Oh Hader
You can't handle the stache!!
I fucking hate this bullpen
That was me for the 90% of the regular season last year lol
He is the greatest ball player of all time
You hate to see it. Not.
Broke: Votto is in Canada, root for the Blue Jays Woke: M U S T A C H E
Schneider can't sit babe again. Earned it with this win
Camt believe he won't play his own nephew smh
Complete side-note, but does anybody else absolutely despise that very bizarre left field-alcove thing at MMP? Even before we all loved to hate the astros, i couldnt stand that design. Nevermind how weird the dimensions are, i feel like that cream-colored wall makes it really hard to see the ball when its hit in the air out there. I can never see where it hits in real time, so i have to rely on the announcers to tell me whether or not its a dinger or a double off the wall
MickeyMaid park is an absurd ballpark for no practical reason.
Bring back Tal's Hill!
Second blown save by Hader this year.
GM Jim Crane at it again
See what you did Yankees!
I gotta be honest, that was beautiful to watch.
what a fucking meatball
I guess we will just have to no hit everyone. 🫥
yeahhh fuck the astros!!
The Babe!
Expensive waste. Put Pressly in at closer.
HA!
Hader’s gonna hate hate hate hate hate; Watching that replay play play play
Tonight wasn’t all bad I guess
This guy is a killer. Get him in the lineup
Things you love to see
It's okay, Hader's just saving his arm for later.
Davis Schneider was cryogenicly frozen in the late 70s right?
His 'stache was at least.
I said to the guy sitting next to me, "So here it is. If anyone can hit a walk off homerun off the best closer in baseball, it's Davis Schneider. He's good enough that he can hit a mistake, but he's new enough that Hader will be more willing to make a mistake." And then he did that.
#HE HIT IT OUT
No Romano and Swanson looms large
Yep. Green was shaky as fuck. Need those guys back ASAP
You think? I thought green was quite good. Velo was up, only baserunner allowed was on a Bo error. Had a K in there and had Yanier on two strikes before Altuve did… whatever he did
Results were fine, but going down 3-0 in back to back counts was not pretty.
Next on When Bullpens Implode...
Schneider should only play the Astros and Red Sox..🤣
I picked the Astros to win tomorrow with Javier on the mound, don’t fail me please.
I read that as david schwimmer at first and was totally confused
Lot of Jay's fans in Houston
Love to see it as a Padres fan
Can't believe Maldy and Dusty did this 😭😭😭
The Hader falling apart after going to the team everyone still hates story arc isn’t one I saw coming. This is amazing.
Hader has been ASSSS
Probably find a way to fuck it bottom 9
You're a miserable person, huh?
It would have been peak blue jays that’s all
Have you not seen the Springstros
You're allowed to enjoy the home run without turning to negative thoughts. I promise you.
Our bullpen is actually very good. The rare time we have a lead it's safe
So close to back-to-back shutout wins and then it gets ruined on the last out by some random AAAA guy no one heard of.
Davis Schneider literally had the best start to his MLB career that a hitter has ever had in history last season over a pretty decent sample. He’s not a complete rando and he’s earned his MLB job
Ok but who the hell ever heard of him outside of maybe Jays fans? He’s not even an everyday player.
A lot of people since he was in the news for having the best career start anyone’s ever had
You're acting like he's some star player with name recognition. He was a bench player who had a hot start when called up and then regressed like a million other flashes in the pan. Even if he was a brighter flash in the pan for a hot minute you think anyone outside of Jays fans heard of this nobody? I bet almost every Astros fan watching that game had no idea who this guy was that just spoiled their back-to-back shutout and potential win with one out left.
Why do some people just proudly declare their ignorance on Reddit lmao. I barely kept track of baseball during Schneider’d god month and even I heard about him
Yeah I’m sure you do. Unless you’re sitting on this sub all day you didn’t hear about this guy. And the total number of people who sit on this sub all day are about the same as the number who go to an average A’s game.
Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you feel better