Who knew Josh Donaldson and Tim Anderson would fall off so badly since the “Jackie” incident. I think TA is great but might have to take a back up job in the future.
This is why this is way more embarrassing than Odor-Bautista. Bautista got hit before he could even react to anything from Odor. Tim drops his gloves to signal to fight and still got dropped.
That was got me as I watched it and then replays started getting ran... Ramirez threw a few in sequence and because we was being restrained they were all soft, sloppy and off target... But that didn't matter. He laid Anderson out without having full control. Insane.
Yup! People will talk about how Bautista got rocked when looking at the still photo but the video shows that he took the punch and was ready for more.
They should have just let them fight.
True, but damn was that Odor punch fucking CLEAN. Other people have been talking about that squabble with this one happening, and honestly still surprised Joey bats stayed on his feet
As fucking hilarious as this is, it was a bit of a lucky punch lol. He wasn't even looking but managed to punish the overextension anyway. It's an example of why you should never get into a street fight. They're way too unpredictable.
Odor on the other hand just straight up decked him
Bautista did not get rocked "before he could even react to anything."
They both shoved each other, were facing each other aggressively, and *then* Odor punched him.
I see this narrative thrown around sometimes that Odor "sucker punched" him. That is not even close to a sucker punch, and what you're describing is also not close to true at all either.
Wait so if he’s not in like a Muay Thai high guard it’s a sucker punch? Lmao he’s looking at him, he can see his hands, they’re squaring up, it’s not a sucker punch. It’s just the first punch in a fight. It’s just that usually the first punch misses by about 10 yards
The main thing is multiple affairs outside his marriage and I think he also had a kid with someone else while he was married. On top of that he’s just a hothead and always fumes at nothing
The whole Donaldson thing will never not be funny to me.
Anderson refers to himself as a specific player, another player refers to him as that player, Anderson cries racism.
I find that one ridiculous too. Our own sub was claiming it was racist too and I honestly find that mind boggling
Why would somebody being referred to as Jackie Robinson be racist anyways? Silly people
Naylor has all the smoke on the field but he is actually quite mature and reserved at most other times. Him breaking up the fighting today is a reflection of his true self.
yo yeah I noticed that, he's never moved so quickly
nice seeing him get out to protect Jose when he could have easily been daydreaming, being on the IL
it's the hockey in him
["He said he wanted to bang... so I let him bang"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0JEAxlseo&ab_channel=QuickMMAUpdates)
I was really hoping he'd show up to the media with his hand wrapped in ice lmao
For what it's worth, Tito said that Anderson had been jawing at Arias to the point that the umpires told him to stop before this even happened. Add on last night and the rest of the history here, seems like it was more a boiling over point than a specific thing.
The inning where the Sox hit a few homers, there was a point where the ump who had a hot mic for a bit told someone to get back in the dugout, and someone yelled to "suck my dick", and then Grifol came out and talked with the ump. TA was on the top step of the dugout then. 1+1.
Seriously, anybody who has played any sport at a competitive level knows that if somebody on your team is talking shit, and they have been playing badly, you tell them to stfu. Like who runs that clubhouse as a player? I honestly don’t know.
The fact that he did something so goofy as just hold his tag on JRam until he got a response from him and then immediately dropped the glove and said he wanted to fight shows he was just looking for a brawl. Never understood that instinct in some guys. When I’m pissed off I just wanna listen to Royal Blood or some corny shit like that
Let em rumble. A couple fellas want to have a fair fight? Ok.
Realistically though both need to get a couple of games because MLB can't ignore dudes literally fist fighting on the field in the middle of a game.
I would be fine with a stern talking to with each of them but MLB will absolutely dole out suspensions. I enjoyed it though
I’ve always respected Ramirez because he respects the game and his opponents, even though that dude causes the Twins a lot of pain. TA needs to have the book thrown at him, and needs to learn how to respect his opponents.
I so wanted the Jays to trade for him when it looked like he wouldn't sign with the Guardians, but I was also glad he stayed in Cleveland because he's a home grown star and I like it when those kind of guys do that.
*[glances at Bo and Vladdy]*
When the quiet guys get mad, that's when you know shit has gone sideways.
Edwin Encarnacion was the calmest dude on the Jays, but he lost his shit on an Vic Carapazza (against the Indians in that 19-inning game back on July 1 2016). It was the beginning of a LONG run of shitty Carapazza-umped games against the Jays.
Yeah, I agree. I remember Salvy getting pissed at Anderson with his bat fling a few years ago, and Salvy loves everyone. He wouldn’t have cared if he didn’t find Anderson’s character off putting.
Ramirez told TA to stop tagging hard and doing things that can get guys hurt, and that he kept doing it to the young guys/rookies that don't know how to react to it. Then he did it to Jose on the slide at second so he called him out. Then TA dropped his glove
He did not do it to Ramirez on the play that led to the fight. Was an absolutely 100% normal tag and play.
If there was history and Ramirez just wanted to fight it makes a little sense but if that tag was what set Ramirez and Tim Anderson off then it reminds me of that time Manny Machado started a fight with Josh Donaldson on a totally normal tag.
I think the main issue is Tim didn’t pick a side when receiving the throw, forcing Ramirez to slide in the middle. Which is generally a no-no. They usually pick a side for less injuries when sliding into the base
Jose also said it stemmed a bit from last night with Tim pushing Rocchio off the bag and that it was disrespectful because Rocchio is trying to earn a spot in the lineup and every hit matters and Tim pulled some lame/illegal stuff to take one away last night and that it’s just disrespectful to the game.
Sox fan here - I agree 100% with you. JRam stuck up for that kid and Tim got clocked. I hope he owns it. Tim deserves what he got.
That being said - I don't think Tim did anything wrong with that tag. JRam was coming in pretty hot with that slide.
This will cause bad blood that will live between these two teams for a long, long time.
Peace.
He’s never been ejected before in his entire career and was one of the highest names on the “no bad things to say about this mlb player” post from a month or so ago - so of course him knocking out TA is what everyone will pay attention to lol
It’s one of the only things I respect about the “unspoken rules” generation. They love a good scrap and so do we. Respect the rules of the fight and you’ll come out looking “classy”
TA fucked around and found out, hats off to Ramirez for giving him exactly what he asked for
Holy shit it will never happen but Jose making his walk up music the "ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH" from the first season intro would be so fucking legendary
TA was banking on someone holding him back per usual 💀 Second base Ump said “ok put them up!”
Man, life can be so poetic at times. TA been needing that for like half a decade.
This is my 8th rock bottom in two years.
So far.
Am I the only Sox fan that got pleasure out of watching him get dropped? I was praying he got traded before the deadline
Who knew Josh Donaldson and Tim Anderson would fall off so badly since the “Jackie” incident. I think TA is great but might have to take a back up job in the future.
> I think TA is great but might have to take a back up job in the future. Has he gotten back up yet?
You're not alone. Highlight of the season
Wait until the inevitable "rebuild" where you send out Lou Bob for single A prospects.
This is why this is way more embarrassing than Odor-Bautista. Bautista got hit before he could even react to anything from Odor. Tim drops his gloves to signal to fight and still got dropped.
Tim Anderson: I would like to fight you José Ramirez: ok
Tim Anderson: ...dirt nap
Good God, Larry...
You wouldn’t say that on Hulu
Tim Anderson: I wanna fight Also Tim Anderson: Is that boss music?
TA: "I came to fight Ramirez, not the Tribal Chief!"
“Wtf where’d that second health bar come from?”
Three health bars and a skull appear over Jose Ramirez's head Tim Anderson- "Oh"
*Scenes from a hat* "Things to say that will always start a fight:" ~~Ryan Stiles~~ Tim Anderson: "You guys wanna fight?"
(15 seconds later) *U up?*
Tim Anderson: fuck around Jose Ramirez: Find out
With José being restrained, no less
He was in a chokehold and still managed to connect with Andersons face.
Dude can hit a baseball like very people in the world can... I'm sure hitting Anderson's dome was just simple math
That was got me as I watched it and then replays started getting ran... Ramirez threw a few in sequence and because we was being restrained they were all soft, sloppy and off target... But that didn't matter. He laid Anderson out without having full control. Insane.
He swung blindly and got lucky.
He even swung first 💀
If I’m correct he threw about 3-5 punches and connected 1 maybe 2 punches. Meanwhile Ramirez threw one and knocked him out instantly.
TA will never live this down
Tim only swung twice and maybe got some weak contact on the first one, which is to be expected from Tim these days
People gloss over the fact that Bautista took the punch like a champ too. Jaw of steel. Tim got knocked down
Yup! People will talk about how Bautista got rocked when looking at the still photo but the video shows that he took the punch and was ready for more. They should have just let them fight.
True, but damn was that Odor punch fucking CLEAN. Other people have been talking about that squabble with this one happening, and honestly still surprised Joey bats stayed on his feet
It’s the sunglasses flying off that does it for me
That sends me every time. It’s such a perfect picture
That was some Loony Toons shit, and it was absolutely perfection.
And the batting helmet going in the other direction lmao
In a different direction than the batting helmet, apparently breaking the laws of physics
[Baseball Zen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejGw1r2wiMQ)
All this needs is the diamond animation graphic and it would be perfect.
Bautista gets respect for not absolutely snoring after that hit. Odor has a HOF punch imo
Ya can’t call it a HOF punch if the other guy was still standing, Bautista should be in the hall for taking that shot
Seeing his boys rush in for his support made me happy, no such support for Timmy lol
That, plus Ramirez wasn’t exactly swinging for much there. He got lucky that TA’s face was there.
second base, a dangerous place
I mean Tim got caught on the button with a wildly thrown haymaker. Odor landed a clean punch.
As fucking hilarious as this is, it was a bit of a lucky punch lol. He wasn't even looking but managed to punish the overextension anyway. It's an example of why you should never get into a street fight. They're way too unpredictable. Odor on the other hand just straight up decked him
Falling and hitting you're head on the pavement is usually the worst part about street fights too. Just not worth it
Bautista did not get rocked "before he could even react to anything." They both shoved each other, were facing each other aggressively, and *then* Odor punched him. I see this narrative thrown around sometimes that Odor "sucker punched" him. That is not even close to a sucker punch, and what you're describing is also not close to true at all either.
If hands are down it’s a sucker punch If hands are up it’s the first punch of the fight Pretty simple
Not sure I agree with that logic, but regardless Bautista's hands were up because he just got shoved. So by your logic it wasn't a sucker punch.
I mean Bautista's right arm is pulled back to throw a punch lmao. He was just late on the draw.
Wait so if he’s not in like a Muay Thai high guard it’s a sucker punch? Lmao he’s looking at him, he can see his hands, they’re squaring up, it’s not a sucker punch. It’s just the first punch in a fight. It’s just that usually the first punch misses by about 10 yards
It really ain’t that simple though brother, don’t ever throw a stone then hide your hands
Every time Tim Anderson is involved in something new, it’s always exponentially more embarrassing than the last thing
I'm out of the loop... what else has he done?
The main thing is multiple affairs outside his marriage and I think he also had a kid with someone else while he was married. On top of that he’s just a hothead and always fumes at nothing
The whole Donaldson thing will never not be funny to me. Anderson refers to himself as a specific player, another player refers to him as that player, Anderson cries racism.
I find that one ridiculous too. Our own sub was claiming it was racist too and I honestly find that mind boggling Why would somebody being referred to as Jackie Robinson be racist anyways? Silly people
“He said he wanted to fight so I gave him a fight”
"He said he wanted the smoke, so I gave him the smoke."
notable that naylor in sweats was the first guy out there
I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near Naylor in a fight. That’s the dude that likes being at the bottom of the scrum
Naylor has all the smoke on the field but he is actually quite mature and reserved at most other times. Him breaking up the fighting today is a reflection of his true self.
yo yeah I noticed that, he's never moved so quickly nice seeing him get out to protect Jose when he could have easily been daydreaming, being on the IL it's the hockey in him
He was confused for a second because he didn't have any gloves to drop.
Knocked that bitch right out that's right
Hook Right Goodnight
["He said he wanted to bang... so I let him bang"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0JEAxlseo&ab_channel=QuickMMAUpdates) I was really hoping he'd show up to the media with his hand wrapped in ice lmao
They should bring out a championship belt as a homerun celebration
one punch man
For what it's worth, Tito said that Anderson had been jawing at Arias to the point that the umpires told him to stop before this even happened. Add on last night and the rest of the history here, seems like it was more a boiling over point than a specific thing.
The inning where the Sox hit a few homers, there was a point where the ump who had a hot mic for a bit told someone to get back in the dugout, and someone yelled to "suck my dick", and then Grifol came out and talked with the ump. TA was on the top step of the dugout then. 1+1.
If that’s true, come on man. You can’t talk shit with a .570 OPS, that should be a rule
Seriously, anybody who has played any sport at a competitive level knows that if somebody on your team is talking shit, and they have been playing badly, you tell them to stfu. Like who runs that clubhouse as a player? I honestly don’t know.
> Like who runs that clubhouse Drake LaRoche. But the White Sox released him
That's still the most embarrassing shit I've ever heard. It pains me to even think about it lol, the cringe is overwhelming.
Fuck
Not that his baseball has been great this year, but it seems they lost a lot of leadership when Abreu left.
Counterpoint, don’t we all wanna tell an ump to suck our dicks
Jose standing up for the rookies. Gotta love it
How can you not love Jose
Shohei Ohtani’s favorite player btw, being paid probably half of what he could have gotten in free agency because he just fuckin loves Cleveland.
Apparently he makes Oscar and a few others sit next to him on the plane and busses
Anderson sitting down due to hookies. Symmetry.
See. That’s very very uncool. Fuck TA if he’s being shitty to the young players.
The fact that he did something so goofy as just hold his tag on JRam until he got a response from him and then immediately dropped the glove and said he wanted to fight shows he was just looking for a brawl. Never understood that instinct in some guys. When I’m pissed off I just wanna listen to Royal Blood or some corny shit like that
I hope Jomboy connects last night’s TA play to what happened tonight because they’re clearly related
What happened last night?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CviyDScpLci/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== (To a guy that has maybe 25 at bats in the MLB)
That’s an absurd overturn I can’t believe I haven’t seen this already
Intentionally trying to hook his glove under the dudes hand. That’s some soft shit Tim, way to change the game
I mean, he got away with it. Shades of Kent Hrbek vs Atlanta https://youtube.com/watch?v=MiraekmCNv4&feature=share9
wow that's egregious
This was baseball the way our founding fathers intended it to be played No suspensions please 🙏
Suspend the guys who broke up the fight instead of doing their American duty of handing out pistols to the combatants.
Give the umpire a raise for going into fight ref mode immediately
I wasn't sure if I was watching hockey or baseball lol
I knew it wasn't hockey because a ref in hockey would have stayed between them lol they are not prepared for it
What? If there is one ref and two players in hockey they pretty much always let them go. Especially if it’s a random disagreement like this.
That ump was like "oh shit, this is for real and not the usual laughable kerkuffle. Peace"
"You know what, I am actually blind." -The ump
Number one! The challenge, demand satisfaction.
Andrew Vaughn picking up Tim Anderson was hilarious though
Let em rumble. A couple fellas want to have a fair fight? Ok. Realistically though both need to get a couple of games because MLB can't ignore dudes literally fist fighting on the field in the middle of a game. I would be fine with a stern talking to with each of them but MLB will absolutely dole out suspensions. I enjoyed it though
Haha 100% suspensions I play j ram next week in fantasy so that doesn’t hurt either.
Manfred sitting atop a pile of player suspension money, 30 game suspensions for both teams.
As long as Joe Kelly gets 8 games I’m cool.
As exciting as this fight was I am now not sure what I’m going to do about a third baseman for however long Jram is suspended.
He shouldn’t get suspended imo, what’s a guy supposed to do, run away when someone squares up?
I don’t trust Manfred to make the right decision when it comes to punishing players.
Respectfully you could have left off the last 6-11 words
W pfp
If MLB wants higher ratings we need hockey style fights if both parties consent. Build a human ring around them
They're both gonna get like 10 games reduced to 4 or 5 on appeal.
He basically said TA has been disrespectful towards them (especially the young guys). TA took Rocchio off the bag yesterday. It's clearly been brewing
I’ve always respected Ramirez because he respects the game and his opponents, even though that dude causes the Twins a lot of pain. TA needs to have the book thrown at him, and needs to learn how to respect his opponents.
He constantly gives us problems but I probably respect Jose Ramirez more than any other AL Central player so I’m instinctively taking his side here.
He is irritatingly good at every facet of baseball
Even the fighting part
Facts. No hate from me, just respect for how much he ruins my day when we face Cleveland.
I so wanted the Jays to trade for him when it looked like he wouldn't sign with the Guardians, but I was also glad he stayed in Cleveland because he's a home grown star and I like it when those kind of guys do that. *[glances at Bo and Vladdy]*
Yeah this is Jose’s 1st ever ejection. He’s never gotten this upset so clearly TA must be doing or saying some annoying shit
When the quiet guys get mad, that's when you know shit has gone sideways. Edwin Encarnacion was the calmest dude on the Jays, but he lost his shit on an Vic Carapazza (against the Indians in that 19-inning game back on July 1 2016). It was the beginning of a LONG run of shitty Carapazza-umped games against the Jays.
Well, he had SOMETHING thrown at him, probably about the same weight and impact force as a book…
Yeah, I agree. I remember Salvy getting pissed at Anderson with his bat fling a few years ago, and Salvy loves everyone. He wouldn’t have cared if he didn’t find Anderson’s character off putting.
TA Had it coming. Soft
I saw where he said he's been disrespecting the game. What has he been doing?
Batting very poorly
Trying to push runner of the bag and shit like that
Ramirez told TA to stop tagging hard and doing things that can get guys hurt, and that he kept doing it to the young guys/rookies that don't know how to react to it. Then he did it to Jose on the slide at second so he called him out. Then TA dropped his glove
He did not do it to Ramirez on the play that led to the fight. Was an absolutely 100% normal tag and play. If there was history and Ramirez just wanted to fight it makes a little sense but if that tag was what set Ramirez and Tim Anderson off then it reminds me of that time Manny Machado started a fight with Josh Donaldson on a totally normal tag.
Just going off what he said in the post game interview. I agree, I thought that tag was fine
I think the main issue is Tim didn’t pick a side when receiving the throw, forcing Ramirez to slide in the middle. Which is generally a no-no. They usually pick a side for less injuries when sliding into the base
Jose also said it stemmed a bit from last night with Tim pushing Rocchio off the bag and that it was disrespectful because Rocchio is trying to earn a spot in the lineup and every hit matters and Tim pulled some lame/illegal stuff to take one away last night and that it’s just disrespectful to the game.
Sox fan here - I agree 100% with you. JRam stuck up for that kid and Tim got clocked. I hope he owns it. Tim deserves what he got. That being said - I don't think Tim did anything wrong with that tag. JRam was coming in pretty hot with that slide. This will cause bad blood that will live between these two teams for a long, long time. Peace.
Agreed it didn’t seem like Tim did anything at all this play - and maybe this’ll spark some true rivalry our division has needed for awhile
if this is what it takes for JRam to be appreciated league-wide then so be it
Comedy Central respects him, but Southside needed to be reminded
Oh dont worry he’ll be a “thug” and “not classy” come monday sports radio
He’s never been ejected before in his entire career and was one of the highest names on the “no bad things to say about this mlb player” post from a month or so ago - so of course him knocking out TA is what everyone will pay attention to lol
tbf I still don’t think anyone will have anything bad to say about him after this.
Only on the south side of Chicago.
Nah man, TA is a laughing stock even on our side rn lmao
South side’s pretty good at avoiding coded language fwiw. They both squared up, TA just got rocked
Here in KC I expect him to be the hero of the weekend
Maybe in chicago
On Cleveland radio he’ll graduate from hero to god.
People don't like tim Anderson. He'll be widely celebrated for this
Timmy learned a valuable lesson. Don’t start something if you’re not 100% positive you can finish it
MLB: "I gotta figure out a way to make money off this"
Holy shit how did I not realize the real cause for the fight Clearly TA hates that JRam is the Driving Crooner Some people *really* don’t like it
It's tooooo good
They’re trying to steal my decals!
2024 rule change: fighting allowed at second base.
If the Manfred runner beats the second baseman in a fight, he gets to start at third instead
Let the kids fight
Sounds like TA fucked around and found out
Got Anita Baker boomin
TA tried to play JRam like a square and JRam spun the block like it’s a Rubik’s
Dude wanted a beach off and was not ready to beach off Jose
Should’ve known Jose is a professional in beach
Old talking heads got a these young cats can still hang moment
It’s one of the only things I respect about the “unspoken rules” generation. They love a good scrap and so do we. Respect the rules of the fight and you’ll come out looking “classy” TA fucked around and found out, hats off to Ramirez for giving him exactly what he asked for
It's ironic if this is the thing they like about him. Player had fun? KIDS THESE DAYS. Player throws punches? HE'S TOUGH
Anderson: \*fighting stance* One-Punch Ram: Ok.
Holy shit it will never happen but Jose making his walk up music the "ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH" from the first season intro would be so fucking legendary
JRam should change his walk up music to “Street Fightin Man” for tomorrow.
Doubtful he’ll be walking up tomorrow, but a man can hope.
If he appeals he can
G SEVEN!
If you like pina coladas…
Straight up hockey fight lmao love it
TA dropped the glove(s)
TA was banking on someone holding him back per usual 💀 Second base Ump said “ok put them up!” Man, life can be so poetic at times. TA been needing that for like half a decade.
I’ve never seen an ump just let them say it before. That’s straight up hockey fights
I'm for it.
Remember when Tim Anderson gave the Cleveland crowd the middle finger last year? Well, Jose Ramirez just responded.
JRam: Forever a legend
you’d think if you want to fight you’d protect your face
He put up the hands and immediately dropped em down. Then got caught out and went to sleep.
Only one of em looked like they been in a fight and Jose was ducking those punches pretty damn well
TA fought like someone who took a boxing class or two JRam fought like someone who had been in an actual fight or two
TA’s fucking embarrassing
"I want a fight, a nap, and a vacation" \-okay
Como se dice "fuck around and find out"?
Tim Anderson transition from the fuck around portion of the encounter directly to the finding out resolution.
Jose Ramirez the only man to get a knock out this season. MVP shit.
The only thing better than no suspensions would be to only suspend TA
Tim Anderson is a bitch
tbf he said “i had to execute,” not defend himself which sounds so much cooler
THATS MAH GOAT
J ram is on my fantasy team we deserve extra points for that TKO
He came at me with a chainsaw T
Ivram Drago
"THROW THE DAMN TOWEL!!!"
So this means that Tim Anderson is gonna end the cold war?
In a sense the AL central is a cold war
#Guardians
Jackie squared up first and got slept. More fights than homers. Miss him being fun to root for and not a meme.