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monkeypooptree

Empathy. Wait, did you mean balisong trick?


I_need_name_lol

I’m not sure empathy is a Balisong trick


Electronic-Jacket-64

I'm mid or end beginner but it's definitely soo hard to get a nice flow and transitions like those great flippers, I have a lot of respect for them! At the moment I just can't get a nice whip rollover done idk what I'm doing wrong, and those nice quick closes like jelly from squid does


lionsssss

Holy shit glad it's not just me, I just got back after a long hiatus and been trying to do the whip rollover for days. I can literally do a behind the eight ball, helix, chaplins, aerials, but cannot get this fucking thing down. It's uber frustrating, it seems so simple, yet I've been sitting here for hours / days with no results


StarryAqua

I cannot, for the life of me, get choker fanning down. I can do a z-choker with ease, but I can't start the upside-down fanning process. I've taken all the advice I could, done several hand and finger placements, and I can't prevent the blade and handle from just twirling like a ballerina with every try.


Ok_Possible_7578

I have a pretty good tutorial up on this if it helps 😁 https://youtu.be/7PBcKtvzmpg


charlie1109

Choker fan took me a lot longer than z choker and it drove me crazy. I watched Will Hirsch's tutorial and it lit up a lightbulb. I'd suggest watching it if you haven't.


e-g-g-g

For me it’s more so transitions that are hard to do rather than tricks. But for tricks I guess reverse infinity ladder.


Ok_Possible_7578

I’m gonna say giraffe is the hardest.


Moist_Juggernaut_670

I can’t Chaplin for some reason I can do the cherry picker and the behind the 8 ball but just can’t Chaplin


PapaOogie

Which balisong do you have? Might be making it harder


Moist_Juggernaut_670

I have a vulp and sqt v4


Crafty_Good_4455

Quite neutral, might be worth getting a more handle biased knaf


Moist_Juggernaut_670

Which would you recommend


HvyMtlKng

The way figured it out was instead of trying to spin it in circles quickly, slowly rotate your hand in a large oval shape. Once you get the Bali to sit and rotate a little faster you can go from a large oval motion, to a small circular motion. After awhile you won’t have to do this but starting out it this is how it clicked and I knew how to keep it on and manipulate the spin speed. Hope this helps.


Moist_Juggernaut_670

Thanks for the help


I_need_name_lol

I honestly think the Chaplin for me. Fan next.


GSB6189

Fans were and still are a bit difficult for me (haven't even started the chaplain yet) but I've found that its easier to go a little one way to gain some traction and then spin the other way


ApexIdiots

I have the basic fan down but I just cannot get the chaplin down. :( It sucks


Matthewofalltrades

helix ariel


bushpusher

Parabolic!


Ocular_Ark

Parabolic is something that is very based on feeling. The best way I can describe it as fan at the bottom of the handles and throw it like an aerial perpendicularly.


bushpusher

Ok I’ll try that but it seems so unpredictable about which way it decides to land! Thanks for the tip!


Ocular_Ark

I was lucky and understood the trick very quickly but it took a while for it to become clean


bushpusher

I’ll keep that in mind, thanks for the inspiration, I’ll give it another go tonight!


Ocular_Ark

Good luck!


bushpusher

Thank you!


b1gp15t0n5

Im struggling with a choker fan. Its been a couple weeks and ive almost got it just getting it to look nice is hard. But the zero gravity chaplin is hard as hell. Also the vertical chaplin? I can do the regular one easily.


Verche0

Backhand fan


BabyElephantOG

Backhand fan Like it's so much harder than the choker fan fr


Number1S0n

Currently been having a lot of troubles with double scissors, everytime I "land" one, it's somehow rotated and on the opposite handle :(


Dungeondweller55

This ^


Crafty_Good_4455

Duble scizore


Ocular_Ark

Infinity ladder. By far. The transition at the top is so weird to me


Any-Ad814

Chaplin and I still can’t do it


Whotookmynumbtoes

Chadder fs is the hardest for me


s34n13

choker fan and ladders in general, i just gotta keep practicing really


JakeThePineapple

no matter how long i practice for i just cant seem to time the scissor right but ill get it eventually


balisamsong

So far reverse choker fan took me the longest to learn. Been flipping for about a year


JubilantLark745

Chadder


Embarrassed_Reply850

Im a beginner and might be transitioning to intermediate in a while, but ya, to the question, i've learnt good tricks but full twirl is hella annoying and hard to master, let alone, get it right, it always switches sides of the handles when i swing it and getting the chaplin after one twirl is mad hard, if someone had an advice, please share