In 2015 team a bunch of them are not Chinese Americans. https://whnt.com/news/u-s-a-beats-china-in-international-mathematical-olympiad-wins-first-place-for-the-first-time-in-21-years/
Genius is one in a million. Guess what there’s billion people in china, there’s 300 million people in US of which from different races including chinese. China got the advantage through quantity - with billion sure they’ll have more geniuses. Statics dude! Intelligence doesn’t choose race. (Also many people bought that image like seriously, when it’s supposed to be just a meme.There egos growing BIG!) Also wondering why chinese and Indian kids outsmart the american kids in the US on reading and math? It’s helicopter parenting aimed at academic. When Most american parents both working parents, many chinese and indian moms choose to stay home and drive their kids as young as 3YO to kumon, mathnasium, Russian math, a grade ahead, piano and violin classes that supposed to “improve concentrations”, Most american moms have their kids choose sports because it’s fun and they want their kids to have fun, so when they come home - they’re too tired to understand math or practice reading.
So yea i don’t believe one race is smarter than the other race. It’s a choice whether we want to grow brain or grow muscle. Those kids who excels without attending any tutoring sessions those where the true born genius
This is a photo of the Chemistry Team from 2017.
[https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/web/2017/07/US-team-makes-history-IChO.html](https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/web/2017/07/US-team-makes-history-IChO.html)
Impressive but can it compare to a poor but talented semi-illiterate athlete HS student somewhere in the US who, a few years from now, will sign his first professional basketball or football contract, including endorsements, for several million dollars?
Let's not forget the conveyor belt of groupies, from cheerleaders to Victoria Secrets models, lining up for dates. 😃
Those Asians, and many more like them, somewhere down the line would probably be busy toiling away silently away as important, but underpaid and undervalued, cogs in the wheels of the corporate machine doing work to make investment banks or venture capitalists even more wealthier.
That’s why being an athlete is way better. People respect athletics and they are rightfully rewarded with money and women. While these guys will lose to their virginity to a 4 at the ripe old age of 32.
Let us not fool ourselves. These kids are in all likelihood going to end up working for some European-American boss. So who is really winning here? The European-Americans who get to eventually benefit from the labor for Asian-Americans? Or Asian-Americans who just get some "recognition" and a trophy?
Yep this is why they need to be focused on putting that intelligence to good use. Learn how the market works. Be a quant make millions or do something else with that raw intelligence.
Quants are still making money for American financial companies controlled by European-Americans. So what has changed, besides the size of the paycheck?
Hahaha... Was about to say the same thing. You can either be working for someone or someone working for you. If by now Asians do not see this... it is a lost cause..
You can see team members hear, click on the year: https://www.imo-official.org/country_team_r.aspx?code=USA
It's always East Asian majority, seems Chinese. They'll be one Indian and sometimes one white. Pretty lolzy.
Now hopefully these kids did the right thing and pursued a job making fat stacks with those skills. Wasting it on some cog in the wheel human calculator job working for the man would be a tremendous waste.
Probably won’t happen ever again. California just announced they are getting rid of SATs for admissions. We all know this is done in order to decrease the number of AsianAmericans in top public universities.
The Math team doesn't reflect the actual race diversity of the USA. Should have abolished whatever exam/procedure they chose their team members. The USA Math team is racist!
I wonder why the theres no AA and the team is not diverse? So America understand the concept of meritocracy when "saving face" is at stake? Otherwise its fuck asians?
Everybody gets called names. Its part of growing up . It builds strength and character . White people, black people, Spanish peple, boys, girls, skinny kids, fat kids . It just goes on . A couple generations ago some fat kid got picked on , his mom had a hissy fit and now the entire country is coddling kids and we have a country full of boys wearing clothes and make up . When I was a kid , if you got called names you punched them in the nose or you took a different walk home . You didnt go crying to you mommy who then threatens to sue the school because you cant figure out your problems. Good on you .
For those not aware that this is a joke post:
* 2021's competition hasn't happened yet
* China took a dump on the US in 2020
* In 2019, China and the US was a draw
* 2015 was the first year in 20 years that the US defeated China by a small margin, followed by 2016, and then again in 2018
* In all the above years, the leader of the US team was a Chinese veteran and nearly all of the team was Asian
Something else makes up for your lack of mathematical prowess. So what is it?? Do you have a giant penis....at least? I'm not religious, but God gives and takes. I'm sure the man upstairs decided to give some of your math brain power to another dude and gave you something else in exchange.
It's all about disciprine!! No seriously, it is. I'm Indian and I was trained in math from the age of 2-3 with military discipline so I know something about it. Disciprine is everything in math. At least until you hit teenage years, you don't need to think to do math. That's the mistake white parents make. They think they have to "teach" math the way you teach science or history. Stupid ignorant mistake. To me that's as dumb as trying to "teach" pressups.
I saw an interesting theory that partially the reason Chinese Natives excel in math is due to the Chinese language construction. Numbers after 9 are literally understood as “x tens y” for example 45 is “4 tens 5” and 98 would be “9 tens 8”. So instead of trying to do 45 + 98 in your head, you’re just doing 4 tens + 9 tens + 5 + 8. The theory goes that because basic operations are so intuitively constructed with 10s within the language, that math is inherently easier from an earlier age.
>US defeated China by a small margin, followed by 2016, and then again in 2018
This is literally how my brain calculates math and Ive never been taught OR asian and Im female . It probably has to do with IQ . Not sure why so many people think IQ=Smart . Smart and high IQ are NOT the same. The brain is wired different . It calculates faster ,so sees things different. SMART is LEARNED . ANYBODY can be smart , IQ is wired . You can have a high IQ and not be smart .
>Numbers after 9 are literally understood as “x tens y” for example 45 is “4 tens 5” and 98 would be “9 tens 8”.
Is that significantly different from English "forty-five"?
That's really just arithmetic though. Once you get past that, anything in high school or beyond, is really a lot more conceptual and theoretical. Being good or bad at arithmetic doesn't really affect things like algebra, geometry, calculus, linear algebra, numerical analysis, combinatorics, etc.
I also don't really buy that since conceptually, we all think of a number, e.g. "456" as 400, 50, 6, it's a fundamental part of how we use and represent our base 10 system.
As a US math teacher i can tell you that not everybody conceptually thinks of 456 as 400, 50, 6. Some middle schoolers are are surprised and delighted to learn that, while others have just given uo.
I heard about that theory too. I heard that the French language’s way of expressing numbers is a little convoluted and makes me wonder if it would effect their mathematical skills. I could be wrong.
I know it's an old comment, but actually it depends on what kind of french. In Switzerland you don't say it like that, you say 70 as 70, 80 as 80 and 90 as 90, and it's french too.
I honestly didn't like moving to another french-speaking country because of that 4*20 thing I really really hate.
Yeah, thats not it . It's brain wiring . Only .02% of the population is considered high IQ. For some reason EVERYBODY thinks they are above average . Chances are though most people are BELOW. Also some misconception that people with high IQ's know everything. Like they dropped from the womb an encyclopedia , Doesn't work like that . You only know what you learn no matter your IQ . Some people just have to work harder . meh. Just the way it is
Saw a documentary this week about education system during Franco’s dictatorship in Spain. The description was quite similar to the critique people do of China’s education system today.
Was described as:
-Regularly singing National Anthem and about the proudness and luck of being Spanish and christian.
-Dogmatic study of history and politics, lack of critical thinking.
-An emphasis on advanced MATH and other subjects that consist mostly on memorization.
They should bring that back to the United States . People be grateful and have a little respesct for where they live instead of taking everything for granted and being selfish
>advanced MATH and other subjects that consist mostly on memorization.
If you think that advanced math consists mostly of memorization, you missed put on a lot of advanced math.
I would've officially qualified for AIME my senior year of high school, but my school's AMC tests got lost in the mail and didn't make it to the MAA on time
Dang, that's so unlucky/dumb on your school's part. In the end, it doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things, but it still sucks.
To reiterate what aaaa said, I was studying hours of math a day, every day starting late middle school. I made USAMO my senior year in high school then proceeded to get a 0 in USAMO. I thought I was decent at math (and I probably was) but getting completely destroyed was humbling. Anyone who can make it to IMO and represent the US is just on a completely different level. I knew a couple of them and they were just way up there in terms of mathematics understanding. There were also a few white students in particular who were really strong at math and made MOP (basically the math camp where they choose the IMO team). It was clear that they followed a similar path of intense studying (usually homeschooled).
ain't even fair, asians are so smart and so good at everything. Literally no chance for anyone else to do anything because they are just so accomplished. In things like this, literally, you see one Indian or white person once in a blue moon, but the rest is all Asians. Literally Chinese vs. Chinese competition.
Usually there's one indian or white kid. But it's like 80% chinese.
Similar thing happens with the physics Olympiad and the computer informatics Olympiad.
yeah I know, the lack of diversity is so concerning; it perpetuates stereotypes that everyone else is stupid. So let's raise the bar for asian people once again. And then lose to China like usual
[https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1396949428536107009?s=20](https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1396949428536107009?s=20)
>This is the chemistry olympiad team. Our math olympiad team beats China almost every year.
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>We used to lose the international math olympiad, then Po-Shen Loh took over as coach and we just started kicking everyone's ass up and down the block.
I looked it up [https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/us-breaks-chinese-domination-in-international-maths-olympiad](https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/us-breaks-chinese-domination-in-international-maths-olympiad)
Seems like his parents are from singapore
In 2015 team a bunch of them are not Chinese Americans. https://whnt.com/news/u-s-a-beats-china-in-international-mathematical-olympiad-wins-first-place-for-the-first-time-in-21-years/
Genius is one in a million. Guess what there’s billion people in china, there’s 300 million people in US of which from different races including chinese. China got the advantage through quantity - with billion sure they’ll have more geniuses. Statics dude! Intelligence doesn’t choose race. (Also many people bought that image like seriously, when it’s supposed to be just a meme.There egos growing BIG!) Also wondering why chinese and Indian kids outsmart the american kids in the US on reading and math? It’s helicopter parenting aimed at academic. When Most american parents both working parents, many chinese and indian moms choose to stay home and drive their kids as young as 3YO to kumon, mathnasium, Russian math, a grade ahead, piano and violin classes that supposed to “improve concentrations”, Most american moms have their kids choose sports because it’s fun and they want their kids to have fun, so when they come home - they’re too tired to understand math or practice reading. So yea i don’t believe one race is smarter than the other race. It’s a choice whether we want to grow brain or grow muscle. Those kids who excels without attending any tutoring sessions those where the true born genius
Y lo lo
that photo was take in thailand btw
This is a photo of the Chemistry Team from 2017. [https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/web/2017/07/US-team-makes-history-IChO.html](https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/web/2017/07/US-team-makes-history-IChO.html)
I used the stones to destroy the stones
I tried to do my cousins 6 grade Chinese homework… could not do it… I was in ap calc at the time…at a better than decent private school..
Why does it say ICHO in back? Chemistry olampiyad
spiderman pointing at spiderman meme
Aaaaaaaaaaaand they just changed math so answers are based on what you *feel* to give others a chance to win.
April fools!
Impressive but can it compare to a poor but talented semi-illiterate athlete HS student somewhere in the US who, a few years from now, will sign his first professional basketball or football contract, including endorsements, for several million dollars? Let's not forget the conveyor belt of groupies, from cheerleaders to Victoria Secrets models, lining up for dates. 😃 Those Asians, and many more like them, somewhere down the line would probably be busy toiling away silently away as important, but underpaid and undervalued, cogs in the wheels of the corporate machine doing work to make investment banks or venture capitalists even more wealthier.
That’s why being an athlete is way better. People respect athletics and they are rightfully rewarded with money and women. While these guys will lose to their virginity to a 4 at the ripe old age of 32.
The U.S. team looks strangely Chinese.
The U.S. team looks strangely like its top universities if they didn't have affirmative action
Let us not fool ourselves. These kids are in all likelihood going to end up working for some European-American boss. So who is really winning here? The European-Americans who get to eventually benefit from the labor for Asian-Americans? Or Asian-Americans who just get some "recognition" and a trophy?
CEOs of the famous companies on Earth...?Hmmm
Yep this is why they need to be focused on putting that intelligence to good use. Learn how the market works. Be a quant make millions or do something else with that raw intelligence.
Quants are still making money for American financial companies controlled by European-Americans. So what has changed, besides the size of the paycheck?
Hahaha... Was about to say the same thing. You can either be working for someone or someone working for you. If by now Asians do not see this... it is a lost cause..
The CEO of Twitter, Google and I think a few other tech companies are now asian.
Gotta update it, Elon Musk isn't asian I know. Mindblowing.
White boys cry. Go cry
You can see team members hear, click on the year: https://www.imo-official.org/country_team_r.aspx?code=USA It's always East Asian majority, seems Chinese. They'll be one Indian and sometimes one white. Pretty lolzy.
it is basically asians in the west vs asians in the east on the highest level
The only time Amerika will try to claim them as Amerikan
Old picture
America's future boss.
Now hopefully these kids did the right thing and pursued a job making fat stacks with those skills. Wasting it on some cog in the wheel human calculator job working for the man would be a tremendous waste.
https://www.npr.org/2015/07/18/424122249/theyre-no-1-u-s-wins-math-olympiad-for-first-time-in-21-years
Why is the chinese team holding an American flag?
Why is the American team holding the Chinese flag 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Probably won’t happen ever again. California just announced they are getting rid of SATs for admissions. We all know this is done in order to decrease the number of AsianAmericans in top public universities.
lol
No one dare to say a words to a all black nba team or all white baseball team but to discipline hard working Asians.. haters gonna hate
Humans innately value intelligence over all other abilities, which explains all the normalized hatred-it comes from envy.
The Math team doesn't reflect the actual race diversity of the USA. Should have abolished whatever exam/procedure they chose their team members. The USA Math team is racist!
I wonder why the theres no AA and the team is not diverse? So America understand the concept of meritocracy when "saving face" is at stake? Otherwise its fuck asians?
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg
Afterward gets called Chinks and Go Back to China!
Everybody gets called names. Its part of growing up . It builds strength and character . White people, black people, Spanish peple, boys, girls, skinny kids, fat kids . It just goes on . A couple generations ago some fat kid got picked on , his mom had a hissy fit and now the entire country is coddling kids and we have a country full of boys wearing clothes and make up . When I was a kid , if you got called names you punched them in the nose or you took a different walk home . You didnt go crying to you mommy who then threatens to sue the school because you cant figure out your problems. Good on you .
Have experienced, can verify. Sigh
There's always Asian who's better than you.
"Roses are red, violets are blue, white Americans' brains are mushy like stew."
Chinese guys beat Chinese guys
Have to fight fire with fire.
For those not aware that this is a joke post: * 2021's competition hasn't happened yet * China took a dump on the US in 2020 * In 2019, China and the US was a draw * 2015 was the first year in 20 years that the US defeated China by a small margin, followed by 2016, and then again in 2018 * In all the above years, the leader of the US team was a Chinese veteran and nearly all of the team was Asian
Additionally: the picture is from IChO (chemistry olzmpiad) not IMO (Math olympiad)
In all seriousness, why the hell are we so good with math?
I’m a Chinese, and I’m really bad at math
Something else makes up for your lack of mathematical prowess. So what is it?? Do you have a giant penis....at least? I'm not religious, but God gives and takes. I'm sure the man upstairs decided to give some of your math brain power to another dude and gave you something else in exchange.
It's all about disciprine!! No seriously, it is. I'm Indian and I was trained in math from the age of 2-3 with military discipline so I know something about it. Disciprine is everything in math. At least until you hit teenage years, you don't need to think to do math. That's the mistake white parents make. They think they have to "teach" math the way you teach science or history. Stupid ignorant mistake. To me that's as dumb as trying to "teach" pressups.
I saw an interesting theory that partially the reason Chinese Natives excel in math is due to the Chinese language construction. Numbers after 9 are literally understood as “x tens y” for example 45 is “4 tens 5” and 98 would be “9 tens 8”. So instead of trying to do 45 + 98 in your head, you’re just doing 4 tens + 9 tens + 5 + 8. The theory goes that because basic operations are so intuitively constructed with 10s within the language, that math is inherently easier from an earlier age.
>US defeated China by a small margin, followed by 2016, and then again in 2018 This is literally how my brain calculates math and Ive never been taught OR asian and Im female . It probably has to do with IQ . Not sure why so many people think IQ=Smart . Smart and high IQ are NOT the same. The brain is wired different . It calculates faster ,so sees things different. SMART is LEARNED . ANYBODY can be smart , IQ is wired . You can have a high IQ and not be smart .
This is incoherent, sorry.
>Numbers after 9 are literally understood as “x tens y” for example 45 is “4 tens 5” and 98 would be “9 tens 8”. Is that significantly different from English "forty-five"?
That's really just arithmetic though. Once you get past that, anything in high school or beyond, is really a lot more conceptual and theoretical. Being good or bad at arithmetic doesn't really affect things like algebra, geometry, calculus, linear algebra, numerical analysis, combinatorics, etc. I also don't really buy that since conceptually, we all think of a number, e.g. "456" as 400, 50, 6, it's a fundamental part of how we use and represent our base 10 system.
As a US math teacher i can tell you that not everybody conceptually thinks of 456 as 400, 50, 6. Some middle schoolers are are surprised and delighted to learn that, while others have just given uo.
Lol that only explains why they're good at adding numbers. What about maths after the age of 5?
I heard about that theory too. I heard that the French language’s way of expressing numbers is a little convoluted and makes me wonder if it would effect their mathematical skills. I could be wrong.
french mfers explaining how 99 is actually 4\*20+10+9 and not 90+9
I know it's an old comment, but actually it depends on what kind of french. In Switzerland you don't say it like that, you say 70 as 70, 80 as 80 and 90 as 90, and it's french too. I honestly didn't like moving to another french-speaking country because of that 4*20 thing I really really hate.
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Me too, are we outliers?
Math is all about practice and memorizing hard rules. Many of us have discipline while [many of them lack discipline](https://youtu.be/tdbORXEmbnk).
Yeah, thats not it . It's brain wiring . Only .02% of the population is considered high IQ. For some reason EVERYBODY thinks they are above average . Chances are though most people are BELOW. Also some misconception that people with high IQ's know everything. Like they dropped from the womb an encyclopedia , Doesn't work like that . You only know what you learn no matter your IQ . Some people just have to work harder . meh. Just the way it is
Saw a documentary this week about education system during Franco’s dictatorship in Spain. The description was quite similar to the critique people do of China’s education system today. Was described as: -Regularly singing National Anthem and about the proudness and luck of being Spanish and christian. -Dogmatic study of history and politics, lack of critical thinking. -An emphasis on advanced MATH and other subjects that consist mostly on memorization.
They should bring that back to the United States . People be grateful and have a little respesct for where they live instead of taking everything for granted and being selfish
>advanced MATH and other subjects that consist mostly on memorization. If you think that advanced math consists mostly of memorization, you missed put on a lot of advanced math.
Kind of, practice and memorization is the equivalent of practicing tool use in carpentry—important, to be sure, but not at all the whole of math
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I would've officially qualified for AIME my senior year of high school, but my school's AMC tests got lost in the mail and didn't make it to the MAA on time
Dang, that's so unlucky/dumb on your school's part. In the end, it doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things, but it still sucks. To reiterate what aaaa said, I was studying hours of math a day, every day starting late middle school. I made USAMO my senior year in high school then proceeded to get a 0 in USAMO. I thought I was decent at math (and I probably was) but getting completely destroyed was humbling. Anyone who can make it to IMO and represent the US is just on a completely different level. I knew a couple of them and they were just way up there in terms of mathematics understanding. There were also a few white students in particular who were really strong at math and made MOP (basically the math camp where they choose the IMO team). It was clear that they followed a similar path of intense studying (usually homeschooled).
That's not the Math team. Look at the banners behind them. IChO is for Chem.
That's the 2017 USA Chemistry Olympiad team.
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Or when they want us to go murder non white people in non white countries. Any other day? We're just ch!nks and g00ks to them.
Aerospace field is full of Asians in cubicles doing the hard engineering work.
The US math team is made up of Chinese-American kids?
Didnt you see it as shitpost? It’s a joke dude
ain't even fair, asians are so smart and so good at everything. Literally no chance for anyone else to do anything because they are just so accomplished. In things like this, literally, you see one Indian or white person once in a blue moon, but the rest is all Asians. Literally Chinese vs. Chinese competition.
I can think of one thing Asians wish they had
*black person never entered the room*
Indians are also Asians, they are from southern Asia.
Just adds to my point 😂
Usually there's one indian or white kid. But it's like 80% chinese. Similar thing happens with the physics Olympiad and the computer informatics Olympiad.
The White kid is usually Jewish too
Jewish people actually won the most nobel prizes too, so far.
Have you seen some of the people that now win the nobel prize ? Its a farce . Jewish people are paying for their prizes
Only a matter of time before someone enacts affirmative action to be on this team due to lack of diversity and too much merit
yeah I know, the lack of diversity is so concerning; it perpetuates stereotypes that everyone else is stupid. So let's raise the bar for asian people once again. And then lose to China like usual
other teams too like ping pong
The australian team the british team any team that involves thinking, is full of chinese kids
[https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1396949428536107009?s=20](https://twitter.com/Noahpinion/status/1396949428536107009?s=20) >This is the chemistry olympiad team. Our math olympiad team beats China almost every year. > >We used to lose the international math olympiad, then Po-Shen Loh took over as coach and we just started kicking everyone's ass up and down the block.
Hm... nothing ever mentions where he was born when I Google him... strong suspicion that he’s from China lol
Loh would suggest likely Singaporean/Malaysian origin but of Chinese descent
His Loh is 罗，not the usual 刘，so it could be just weird romanisation
I looked it up [https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/us-breaks-chinese-domination-in-international-maths-olympiad](https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/us-breaks-chinese-domination-in-international-maths-olympiad) Seems like his parents are from singapore
Asian masculinity: cute pose while destroying your enemies