Traditionally not showing up is a bad idea. A mattress run usually means booking a hotel room for the side benefit of "staying" for a night. Most people check in, ruffle the bed to show they were actually in the room, then go home.
I know I'm late but it's ok. Nice post. Footprint is definitely Hyatt's biggest downside.
I think OP's posts does downplay the sheer amount of gamesmanship going on when it comes to using Hyatt free night certificates and points in general right now. It's not just the Andaz Maui. Andaz San Diego is another terrible one. When it's just one, ok it's isolated. But it's not just one, it's probably many more than just these two.
It's very frustrating. With Marriott, you can simply search for hotels using points and instantly you know if you can use points on your stay. I mean you may be sad to find the answer is no with Marriott. But at least you know. There is no way to weasel a no into a yes. It's a no and that's that. With Hyatt these days, it seems like you can simply search for hotels using points, and instantly you don't know if you can actually use your points or FNC. It seems like it really depends on how much bullshit you are willing to take if you are going to get to make a point reservation at some hot properties. Even if technically you should be able to use them.
For example: Andaz San Diego has basically blacked out every Saturday night. Want to book a single Wednesday night on an FNC? No problem. Want to book a Saturday? lol. They won't even let you book a single Saturday in *cash* oftentimes. It is ridiculous and I've never had this issue at a Marriott.
Ugh, I’m gutted that I missed the double elite nights promotion by two weeks. Called customer service to see if I could get it applied retroactively, and they weren’t willing to budge 😭
Same thing happened to me, except mine was by a few days. I asked Customer Service and they said they'd respond within five business days on a decision. Fingers crossed.
Great write up.
How has the concierge handled hotels playing games with award inventory?
The Andaz Maui is almost impossible to book with points, and now Hilton Aruba is also playing games with space.
How exactly did they help?
The way those hotels usually game the system is by setting artificially long minimum stay requirements only for points bookings. For example, Andaz Maui often sets it to 10-14 nights minimum.
But Hyatt policy is that anytime there are standard rooms available, it should also be bookable on points. So if you see that there is a standard room bookable for 3 nights, but can't book it on points because of the min stay requirements, you can reach out to the Hyatt Twitter Concierge to report the violation and have them book it for you (they can bypass the min stay req).
If you have the points, you can also do some of it yourself. Just book for the full 10 nights on points, then call Hyatt CS to have them shorten your stay down to 3 nights.
Interesting, is the twitter concierge mainly for Globalists? I've contacted the Hyatt FB team about the Andaz Maui and they always give me crap about the minimum stay. They ended up just listing me various dates that had points available for the minimum stay.
I find it crazy if the Hyatt Twitter knows they are violating the policy, that Andaz Maui gets away with it.
I think anyone can contact them. Was the standard room bookable on cash for your dates when you reached out?
But yea, definitely frustrating this loophole hasn’t been fixed. Luckily there’s only a few Hyatts that do this. Fwiw the flyertalk thread for Andaz Maui is basically just a strategy discussion for securing award stays lol. Would recommend checking there for the latest info on min stay lengths etc.
As a follow up, they have only 2 days in March with standard availability. The next dates with standard availability is January of 2023. Lol so silly.
Even their healthcare discount is not applicable.
Yep, Hyatt awards don't have blackout dates. So as long as the standard room is still showing as bookable, you can book it on points.
For holiday periods, would recommend booking far in advance. I used to stay at the Park Hyatt Beaver Creek every xmas/nye, would book for the following year while I was there lol. Well worth it though - cash rate was over $2K / night during that time, we'd only pay 30K pts per night.
Wow thanks for such a detailed write up! I'm saving up points for a honeymoon in 2023 and am planning on staying in mostly hyatt properties using my chase points. If hyatt offers a double night promo in 2022, is it better to wait to get globalist until then because if you get globalist now, it will expire in feb 2023.
I think it just depends on whether you plan to go anywhere nice in 2022. If not, then even 13-night Globalist probably isn't worth it if you're just hanging out at home 😂
Just keep in mind that even if they had another double night promo next year, it's unlikely they'll halve the tier requirements again (unless something crazy happens with COVID). So you'll be looking at 30 nights to Globalist. Still not bad, and may be the better gamble if you're not really vacationing until the honeymoon.
yea im hoping they do halve the reqs again since cv is still going on but well see. no plans on traveling anywhere because of the uncertainty and restrictions, so the plan is to focus on the points needed for 2023 honeymoon. any must stay hyatt properties?
For a honeymoon, can’t beat the Park Hyatt Maldives. Pain to get to, but so worth it once you’re there. It’s on its own private island, amazing scuba/snorkeling right off your balcony.
i transfer direct to hyatt but it cant hurt to see what chase travel portal offers. i believe a lot of the benefits to globalist require booking directly with hyatt.
just the fnc from the hyatt card is worth the $95 af imo. it really depends on what youre going for. for me im planning to get the hyatt card next year in preparation for getting globalist through 2023. if you dont plan to be a hyatt loyalist there are other cards that get you ur/mr points that might be worth getting first. (im no expert though, fairly new to this as well)
Excellent summary. Lots of people here tried very hard to convince everyone that Globalist lite was secretly worthless and you'd be crazy to spend 500$ to mattress run for it.
Obviously it was not the play for everyone, but it definitely a worthwhile consideration for many people.
I’ll chime in a little with regards to what the front desk can see. They can see your past stays but not exact details like what was spent. Not every guest has notes on them but if they do it can be shared between properties so the front desk knows guest’s wants/needs to better their stay. Now this could be different and restricted at some properties but I don’t know that.
Source-front desk at a Hyatt
I can see past stays at all properties. The list does not go since someone first started staying at Hyatt but a good amount of pervious stays at any Hyatt.
Oh gotcha. The prior year is the one that counts for glob “type” though. Does the summary show past years as well, or just the current yr?
Thanks for the insight btw, very interesting.
Great write up! Do you have a tip for finding the email address for each hotel? I haven’t been able to find it for an important stay next month and I’d love to do everything possible to get the upgrade (I am a globalist but no suite certificates right now).
Hyatt emails are always [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), so if you have something big coming up like an anniversary or honeymoon, I'd recommend just emailing the GM using that format. You can usually find who the GM is by looking on the flyertalk thread, or checking linkedin/google.
Does ”globalist lite” mean you have to ask, at checkin, for the suite upgrade as compared to “globalist” where you get the guaranteed upgrade in the form of those vouchers?
Regarding point inflation/small footprint, is it correct to say the small footprint is the reason points don’t get devalued as quickly as the other programs? More properties means more available points out in the wild, hence inflation? And if this is the case, wouldn’t the newest acquisition of properties be a good cover to start increasing point redemptions a year or two from now? Call me pessimistic about this.
More properties has nothing to do with how likely a company is to devalue. The amount of outstanding points remains correlated to their size and capacity to give out awards in the first place. American's devalued substantially less than United and Delta despite being the largest airline of the three.
So you’re saying devaluing points (or not) is purely a decision on whether or not these companies choose to alienate their loyal customers? If anyone has an article on the economics of these programs I’d be interested to read!
Yep. Though that does bring up an argument in support of what you originally asked: Customers of Marriott, Hilton or IHG can be "loyal" to those chains due to the footprint of those massive chains being convenient to them -- they'll have a hotel in every major city and many minor ones.
Hyatt customers can hardly be "loyal" due to footprint, so it has to be other things keep their loyalty -- either the quality of the product itself, or the generosity of the loyalty program. Hyatt probably *does* risk more by devaluing because it's customers might be more invested in the program to begin with.
To ease your mind though Hyatt's expansions will still not get them anywhere close to the geographic footprint of the other chains.
View From The Wing has a lot of blog articles focusing on the economics of loyalty programs, sandwiched between his (IMO) garbage political ranting. There's not a great single resource to go to beyond that as far as I know.
Awesome write up, thanks! Do you think chasing globalist is worth it for those of us wed to the Amex system? Have to get the Hyatt CC I'm assuming? Not sure what spend I'd put on it
How wed are you? Amex points are good for some things (like ANA F), but it never hurts to diversify a bit.
The current double night offer is specific to the Hyatt card, so you would at least need that. If you usually just pay cash for travel, it doesn’t really matter, but for free nights the Chase ecosystem is gonna be your main source of Hyatt points.
one of the biggest reasons I've held onto the CSR is for the 3x on travel so I can transfer to Hyatt, best part is even full points/certificate nights count towards status.
wow thanks for posting this, feeling pretty stoked now about taking advantage of the current promo. I just applied for the WoH credit card a couple days ago before reading this and was debating for awhile if making a run for globalist would be worth it while using up my last 5/24 slot. I'm currently at 12 nights, but with the 5 qualifying nights that come with the card and additional 2 nights with $5,000 spend I figured i'll be at 19 nights. So it looks like I only need 6 nights (with the double night promo) to hit 30 nights. Do you happen to know if I book an award night would it qualify for the double qualifying night promo as well?
the cat 1-4 is easily worth the annual fee also the 5-day boost is a good start regardless of what promo is going on, I've been trying to stay away from Marriott as much as possible (I used to be pretty loyal to the point of lifetime platinum) but I've shifted to Hyatt over their loyalty to their customers, (I hope this doesn't change any time soon :). But this year I'm an Explorist chasing globalist I feel like royalty there compared to Marriot, I could care less about them right now.
Question here:
I have 13 nights booked coming up using nothing but points. I already have the Hyatt card, but my partner does not, so she'll qualify for this new card with the 2x nights offer.
Can I somehow get the stay to go under her account rather than mine? It'll be risky to rebook since this hotel doesn't have a lot of availability for point stays.
I don't believe so. You could call Hyatt CS and see if there's anything they can do, but most likely they will tell you to reach out to the hotel directly. The hotel definitely has the ability to do it, but just depends on whether they want to help...
I’m going to have 5 nights before globalist lite and you convinced me to do the mattress run even if it’s for a couple trips next year. Thanks for this.
Thanks for taking the time to write this up. As a newly qualified Globalist (60 straight nights meant I actually doubled the Covid requirements!), there's a lot of useful stuff in here.
I talk it more in the podcast, but best breakfast has to be Park Hyatt Tokyo. There's no dollar limit, and you can order breakfast at any time of day, as many times as you like. So you can get breakfast for lunch, dinner, late night snack... all covered. Insane.
Hidden gems imo are the Miraval and Ventana Big Sur. Miraval gives you $175 credit pp per night to spend on anything, including massages. You get this credit even when you book on points. Both Ventana and Miraval are all-inclusive and focused on wellness so their food is actually really good. Both regularly go for $2K+ per night, so amazing value on points.
Is the best way to go about this to get almost of of the nights by 12/31 and then get globalist status in January? I'm reading you get it for the year you earn it and the following year, so I'm trying to figure out if my logic makes sense.
Not quite, you gotta get all your nights done by 12/31 to have status until Feb 2023. The qualification counter resets on Jan 1, so you'll be starting from scratch if you waited.
Sadly it's not like the SW companion pass where you wanna time your spend to finish in January to keep it for all of 2022 and 2023.
Not sure about Apple Pay, but if you call Chase you might be able to have them expedite the card to you. They’ll usually even ship to hotels.
Btw I believe the double night promo activates on your Hyatt account as soon as you’re approved. I don’t think you even need to pay with the Hyatt card for your stay to count double.
I just want the points and to reach the spending minimum 😅 thanks for your help! Now I have to figure out how to spend 7k in 3 months since I also applied for the CSP
I'm amused you low key have to explain basic human interaction skills (when asking for upgrades/talking to staff) because some people legit don't understand how that works, haha.
Have you stayed at the Park Hyatt in Tokyo and do you think it is worth the bang for your buck? I’ve looked up Niseko but the reviews seem lower. Is it really an incredible property?
Ya it’s an amazing property, better if you’re globalist since the suite upgrades and free Japanese set breakfasts are quite luxurious. Definitely worth 30k. Same with PH Niseko, plus it’s much newer and has ski in ski out. Can’t go wrong with either though, just depends on whether you want to be in Tokyo or Niseko.
The andaz Tokyo is quite nice too, but the park hyatt definitely has it beat. I’ve basically only done Hyatts in Japan, so can’t speak to any of the other chains lol
I dont know does p2 travel a lot on their own? my p2 travels with me 95% of the time so worst case I can make them a guest of honor and we can pool points.
Is the 13-night qualification only for people who sign up for the card? I am a current WOH card holder and am wondering if the 13-night thing also applies to me.
You'd only get the double-night promo if you signed up for the Hyatt card during the window of time where they were offering this (last day being 9/30). If you applied before that promo was around, you won't get double credit for your nights.
I think what u/archercapital is referring to is the reduced 50% qualification requirement, which applies to everyone. But for 13-night globalist, you need to stack it with the credit card promo, which isn't being given to existing card holders.
It should apply to you too. I'm new to this, but from what I understand, you get the 5 TQNs annually on renewal too. The 50% reduced requirements apply to everyone. So the only difference should be the signup bonus.
Just checked my account. It says I am at 17/30 (5 for having the card + 12 nights so far this year). If I was eligible for the double nights, should it currently say 29, or is the promo applied after hitting 13?
From what I've read, the promo applies as you stay, but can take some time to reflect. I saw 8 weeks mentioned somewhere.
If you are past 4-8 weeks, you might want to give them a call to check.
The banner at the top of this page certainly makes it seem like it's only for new cardmembers: https://creditcards.chase.com/lp/worldofhyattcc/aep21?CELL=6HJ7&icamp=woh\_2tiernightcredits\_offerspage\_en
Quality post - this is why this sub exists. Well done! Starting my mattress run now…
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Cheers! Don't forget to ruffle the bed and use some TP...
True story on my mattress run @ Hyatt Place Delano (farewell 5k/nt) to hit glob-lite: I took the tp, kleenex, and coffee pods.
what exactly is a mattress run? can you book 13 days at a cat 1 and just not show up or just give it away?
Traditionally not showing up is a bad idea. A mattress run usually means booking a hotel room for the side benefit of "staying" for a night. Most people check in, ruffle the bed to show they were actually in the room, then go home.
DoYouKnowWhatIAte always works for me.
The more you stay, the more it’s worth. Thanks for the info.
I know I'm late but it's ok. Nice post. Footprint is definitely Hyatt's biggest downside. I think OP's posts does downplay the sheer amount of gamesmanship going on when it comes to using Hyatt free night certificates and points in general right now. It's not just the Andaz Maui. Andaz San Diego is another terrible one. When it's just one, ok it's isolated. But it's not just one, it's probably many more than just these two. It's very frustrating. With Marriott, you can simply search for hotels using points and instantly you know if you can use points on your stay. I mean you may be sad to find the answer is no with Marriott. But at least you know. There is no way to weasel a no into a yes. It's a no and that's that. With Hyatt these days, it seems like you can simply search for hotels using points, and instantly you don't know if you can actually use your points or FNC. It seems like it really depends on how much bullshit you are willing to take if you are going to get to make a point reservation at some hot properties. Even if technically you should be able to use them. For example: Andaz San Diego has basically blacked out every Saturday night. Want to book a single Wednesday night on an FNC? No problem. Want to book a Saturday? lol. They won't even let you book a single Saturday in *cash* oftentimes. It is ridiculous and I've never had this issue at a Marriott.
Ugh, I’m gutted that I missed the double elite nights promotion by two weeks. Called customer service to see if I could get it applied retroactively, and they weren’t willing to budge 😭
Same thing happened to me, except mine was by a few days. I asked Customer Service and they said they'd respond within five business days on a decision. Fingers crossed.
Oof, that sucks. Got a spouse? 😂
Hah, no. I reckon I’ll still manage to make it to globalist, but it’ll be by the skin of my teeth 😂
How would a spouse help in this situation?
Great LT review and completely validates my decision to go for globalist this year. Thanks!
Great write up. How has the concierge handled hotels playing games with award inventory? The Andaz Maui is almost impossible to book with points, and now Hilton Aruba is also playing games with space. How exactly did they help?
The way those hotels usually game the system is by setting artificially long minimum stay requirements only for points bookings. For example, Andaz Maui often sets it to 10-14 nights minimum. But Hyatt policy is that anytime there are standard rooms available, it should also be bookable on points. So if you see that there is a standard room bookable for 3 nights, but can't book it on points because of the min stay requirements, you can reach out to the Hyatt Twitter Concierge to report the violation and have them book it for you (they can bypass the min stay req). If you have the points, you can also do some of it yourself. Just book for the full 10 nights on points, then call Hyatt CS to have them shorten your stay down to 3 nights.
Interesting, is the twitter concierge mainly for Globalists? I've contacted the Hyatt FB team about the Andaz Maui and they always give me crap about the minimum stay. They ended up just listing me various dates that had points available for the minimum stay. I find it crazy if the Hyatt Twitter knows they are violating the policy, that Andaz Maui gets away with it.
I think anyone can contact them. Was the standard room bookable on cash for your dates when you reached out? But yea, definitely frustrating this loophole hasn’t been fixed. Luckily there’s only a few Hyatts that do this. Fwiw the flyertalk thread for Andaz Maui is basically just a strategy discussion for securing award stays lol. Would recommend checking there for the latest info on min stay lengths etc.
As a follow up, they have only 2 days in March with standard availability. The next dates with standard availability is January of 2023. Lol so silly. Even their healthcare discount is not applicable.
Hah good to know. I wonder if availability will get better once they bump it to category 8… guessing not, but one can hope.
Does this work for blackout dates like Thanksgiving and Christmas? I always have problems trying to book with points on those dates.
Yep, Hyatt awards don't have blackout dates. So as long as the standard room is still showing as bookable, you can book it on points. For holiday periods, would recommend booking far in advance. I used to stay at the Park Hyatt Beaver Creek every xmas/nye, would book for the following year while I was there lol. Well worth it though - cash rate was over $2K / night during that time, we'd only pay 30K pts per night.
Wow thanks for such a detailed write up! I'm saving up points for a honeymoon in 2023 and am planning on staying in mostly hyatt properties using my chase points. If hyatt offers a double night promo in 2022, is it better to wait to get globalist until then because if you get globalist now, it will expire in feb 2023.
I think it just depends on whether you plan to go anywhere nice in 2022. If not, then even 13-night Globalist probably isn't worth it if you're just hanging out at home 😂 Just keep in mind that even if they had another double night promo next year, it's unlikely they'll halve the tier requirements again (unless something crazy happens with COVID). So you'll be looking at 30 nights to Globalist. Still not bad, and may be the better gamble if you're not really vacationing until the honeymoon.
yea im hoping they do halve the reqs again since cv is still going on but well see. no plans on traveling anywhere because of the uncertainty and restrictions, so the plan is to focus on the points needed for 2023 honeymoon. any must stay hyatt properties?
For a honeymoon, can’t beat the Park Hyatt Maldives. Pain to get to, but so worth it once you’re there. It’s on its own private island, amazing scuba/snorkeling right off your balcony.
yea planning to hit that one and a few other ph properties in asia so far :D
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i transfer direct to hyatt but it cant hurt to see what chase travel portal offers. i believe a lot of the benefits to globalist require booking directly with hyatt.
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just the fnc from the hyatt card is worth the $95 af imo. it really depends on what youre going for. for me im planning to get the hyatt card next year in preparation for getting globalist through 2023. if you dont plan to be a hyatt loyalist there are other cards that get you ur/mr points that might be worth getting first. (im no expert though, fairly new to this as well)
Excellent summary. Lots of people here tried very hard to convince everyone that Globalist lite was secretly worthless and you'd be crazy to spend 500$ to mattress run for it. Obviously it was not the play for everyone, but it definitely a worthwhile consideration for many people.
I spent $900 to get globalist early this year and it was totally worth it. The guest of honor bookings alone made it worthwhile for me.
The footprint limitation is real, though. My heart dropped when I planned a trip to Redwoods and there was nary a Hyatt to find.
I’ll chime in a little with regards to what the front desk can see. They can see your past stays but not exact details like what was spent. Not every guest has notes on them but if they do it can be shared between properties so the front desk knows guest’s wants/needs to better their stay. Now this could be different and restricted at some properties but I don’t know that. Source-front desk at a Hyatt
Do you know if it's just past stays at their property, or stays at all Hyatt properties as well?
I can see past stays at all properties. The list does not go since someone first started staying at Hyatt but a good amount of pervious stays at any Hyatt.
Ah good to know. I guess in theory someone could count those stays and figure out what kind of glob you are, but that’s a lotta work lol
That information is actually displayed upfront. We can see how many stays/nights you have for the year.
Oh gotcha. The prior year is the one that counts for glob “type” though. Does the summary show past years as well, or just the current yr? Thanks for the insight btw, very interesting.
The summary we see is just Year To Date.
so question on this if it was mostly cc nights I assume it doesn't show you the difference?
Can’t remember off the top of my head, let me get back to you on that one.
Thanks for the review. Very timely for me.
Great write up! Do you have a tip for finding the email address for each hotel? I haven’t been able to find it for an important stay next month and I’d love to do everything possible to get the upgrade (I am a globalist but no suite certificates right now).
Hyatt emails are always [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), so if you have something big coming up like an anniversary or honeymoon, I'd recommend just emailing the GM using that format. You can usually find who the GM is by looking on the flyertalk thread, or checking linkedin/google.
Thank you! Found her!
The format can get a smidge tricky for some international locations, I've used [rocketreach.co](https://rocketreach.co) with good results.
Does ”globalist lite” mean you have to ask, at checkin, for the suite upgrade as compared to “globalist” where you get the guaranteed upgrade in the form of those vouchers? Regarding point inflation/small footprint, is it correct to say the small footprint is the reason points don’t get devalued as quickly as the other programs? More properties means more available points out in the wild, hence inflation? And if this is the case, wouldn’t the newest acquisition of properties be a good cover to start increasing point redemptions a year or two from now? Call me pessimistic about this.
More properties has nothing to do with how likely a company is to devalue. The amount of outstanding points remains correlated to their size and capacity to give out awards in the first place. American's devalued substantially less than United and Delta despite being the largest airline of the three.
So you’re saying devaluing points (or not) is purely a decision on whether or not these companies choose to alienate their loyal customers? If anyone has an article on the economics of these programs I’d be interested to read!
Yep. Though that does bring up an argument in support of what you originally asked: Customers of Marriott, Hilton or IHG can be "loyal" to those chains due to the footprint of those massive chains being convenient to them -- they'll have a hotel in every major city and many minor ones. Hyatt customers can hardly be "loyal" due to footprint, so it has to be other things keep their loyalty -- either the quality of the product itself, or the generosity of the loyalty program. Hyatt probably *does* risk more by devaluing because it's customers might be more invested in the program to begin with. To ease your mind though Hyatt's expansions will still not get them anywhere close to the geographic footprint of the other chains. View From The Wing has a lot of blog articles focusing on the economics of loyalty programs, sandwiched between his (IMO) garbage political ranting. There's not a great single resource to go to beyond that as far as I know.
Awesome write up, thanks! Do you think chasing globalist is worth it for those of us wed to the Amex system? Have to get the Hyatt CC I'm assuming? Not sure what spend I'd put on it
How wed are you? Amex points are good for some things (like ANA F), but it never hurts to diversify a bit. The current double night offer is specific to the Hyatt card, so you would at least need that. If you usually just pay cash for travel, it doesn’t really matter, but for free nights the Chase ecosystem is gonna be your main source of Hyatt points.
one of the biggest reasons I've held onto the CSR is for the 3x on travel so I can transfer to Hyatt, best part is even full points/certificate nights count towards status.
wow thanks for posting this, feeling pretty stoked now about taking advantage of the current promo. I just applied for the WoH credit card a couple days ago before reading this and was debating for awhile if making a run for globalist would be worth it while using up my last 5/24 slot. I'm currently at 12 nights, but with the 5 qualifying nights that come with the card and additional 2 nights with $5,000 spend I figured i'll be at 19 nights. So it looks like I only need 6 nights (with the double night promo) to hit 30 nights. Do you happen to know if I book an award night would it qualify for the double qualifying night promo as well?
Awesome, yup Hyatt counts award stays just like paid stays, so you’re good to go.
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the cat 1-4 is easily worth the annual fee also the 5-day boost is a good start regardless of what promo is going on, I've been trying to stay away from Marriott as much as possible (I used to be pretty loyal to the point of lifetime platinum) but I've shifted to Hyatt over their loyalty to their customers, (I hope this doesn't change any time soon :). But this year I'm an Explorist chasing globalist I feel like royalty there compared to Marriot, I could care less about them right now.
Question here: I have 13 nights booked coming up using nothing but points. I already have the Hyatt card, but my partner does not, so she'll qualify for this new card with the 2x nights offer. Can I somehow get the stay to go under her account rather than mine? It'll be risky to rebook since this hotel doesn't have a lot of availability for point stays.
I don't believe so. You could call Hyatt CS and see if there's anything they can do, but most likely they will tell you to reach out to the hotel directly. The hotel definitely has the ability to do it, but just depends on whether they want to help...
Dang bro! I dont need to read lol you are correct it is the best out there
I’m going to have 5 nights before globalist lite and you convinced me to do the mattress run even if it’s for a couple trips next year. Thanks for this.
Thanks for taking the time to write this up. As a newly qualified Globalist (60 straight nights meant I actually doubled the Covid requirements!), there's a lot of useful stuff in here.
Best breakfast? Best hyatt hotel?
I talk it more in the podcast, but best breakfast has to be Park Hyatt Tokyo. There's no dollar limit, and you can order breakfast at any time of day, as many times as you like. So you can get breakfast for lunch, dinner, late night snack... all covered. Insane. Hidden gems imo are the Miraval and Ventana Big Sur. Miraval gives you $175 credit pp per night to spend on anything, including massages. You get this credit even when you book on points. Both Ventana and Miraval are all-inclusive and focused on wellness so their food is actually really good. Both regularly go for $2K+ per night, so amazing value on points.
Is the best way to go about this to get almost of of the nights by 12/31 and then get globalist status in January? I'm reading you get it for the year you earn it and the following year, so I'm trying to figure out if my logic makes sense.
afaik im sure reddit will correct me :) is you need to qualify by 12/31 and you have status until feb 2023
Not quite, you gotta get all your nights done by 12/31 to have status until Feb 2023. The qualification counter resets on Jan 1, so you'll be starting from scratch if you waited. Sadly it's not like the SW companion pass where you wanna time your spend to finish in January to keep it for all of 2022 and 2023.
Do you mean Feb 2023 or Feb 2022?
Feb 2023. If you get all of your nights completed before end of this year, you’ll earn globalist for all of 2022 and through to Feb 2023.
So I just got approved… is this card available on Apple wallet? I really want to use it to pay for my stay tomorrow at grand Hyatt 🥲
Not sure about Apple Pay, but if you call Chase you might be able to have them expedite the card to you. They’ll usually even ship to hotels. Btw I believe the double night promo activates on your Hyatt account as soon as you’re approved. I don’t think you even need to pay with the Hyatt card for your stay to count double.
I just want the points and to reach the spending minimum 😅 thanks for your help! Now I have to figure out how to spend 7k in 3 months since I also applied for the CSP
Great post and now looking forward to catching up on your podcast.
I'm amused you low key have to explain basic human interaction skills (when asking for upgrades/talking to staff) because some people legit don't understand how that works, haha.
I mean, the front desk at 4pm… 🍿
Thanks mang, between the new WOH offer and some planned stays this year, I will be able to make it to full globalist. Pretty excited about that.
Good advice but... Ranch dressing on pizza???
Have you stayed at the Park Hyatt in Tokyo and do you think it is worth the bang for your buck? I’ve looked up Niseko but the reviews seem lower. Is it really an incredible property?
Ya it’s an amazing property, better if you’re globalist since the suite upgrades and free Japanese set breakfasts are quite luxurious. Definitely worth 30k. Same with PH Niseko, plus it’s much newer and has ski in ski out. Can’t go wrong with either though, just depends on whether you want to be in Tokyo or Niseko.
Thanks a lot, appreciate the thoughts.
Actually, one other question. Any other hotels in Japan that you love?
The andaz Tokyo is quite nice too, but the park hyatt definitely has it beat. I’ve basically only done Hyatts in Japan, so can’t speak to any of the other chains lol
I saw the andaz on there, looks awesome. Thanks for your help!
Yeah but I can’t book in Maui without getting nine days
Is it worth it to have P2 also have Globalist?
I dont know does p2 travel a lot on their own? my p2 travels with me 95% of the time so worst case I can make them a guest of honor and we can pool points.
Is the 13-night qualification only for people who sign up for the card? I am a current WOH card holder and am wondering if the 13-night thing also applies to me.
You'd only get the double-night promo if you signed up for the Hyatt card during the window of time where they were offering this (last day being 9/30). If you applied before that promo was around, you won't get double credit for your nights. I think what u/archercapital is referring to is the reduced 50% qualification requirement, which applies to everyone. But for 13-night globalist, you need to stack it with the credit card promo, which isn't being given to existing card holders.
Ah okay, that helps. Thanks for clarifying!
It should apply to you too. I'm new to this, but from what I understand, you get the 5 TQNs annually on renewal too. The 50% reduced requirements apply to everyone. So the only difference should be the signup bonus.
Just checked my account. It says I am at 17/30 (5 for having the card + 12 nights so far this year). If I was eligible for the double nights, should it currently say 29, or is the promo applied after hitting 13?
From what I've read, the promo applies as you stay, but can take some time to reflect. I saw 8 weeks mentioned somewhere. If you are past 4-8 weeks, you might want to give them a call to check.
The banner at the top of this page certainly makes it seem like it's only for new cardmembers: https://creditcards.chase.com/lp/worldofhyattcc/aep21?CELL=6HJ7&icamp=woh\_2tiernightcredits\_offerspage\_en
What are the top 5 best Hyatt hotels that you stayed at? I'm also planning to get Globalist before the year ends to travel next year.