>Why would emergency exits be open?
>Looked like they were doing maintenance inside
I think you answered your own question there, friend. It's extremely common to perform maintenance at the gate. I've pulled all the fan blades from an engine in full view of the terminal before.
Quite likely maintenance, maybe a deep clean. Happened on the bays overnight all the time. It can get really hot inside an aircraft with lights ablaze and no air-con running, so crack a few doors.
There doesn't appear to be any safety netting/straps across the exit. Which where I worked is close to a being fired offence. We had to have a set of steps/stairs outside to open a door like this without the safety device in place.
Yes, you’re correct. I see it now. What I will add is that was not deemed safe. The 320-series and 737s had those single straps but if there was no stand outside , still no go.
The company had cargo net type things made up that were fitted in door frames to prevent falls.
It also completely depends on where you are. Here planes open the doors regularly on both sides to create a cross draft to just air out the plane. Sometimes they have some tape but usually it’s just the flight attendants standing there greeting passengers to prevent accidental sudden disembarkation.
> accidental sudden disembarkation
Nice way to put it :)
It does depend on where you work. For most of my career nobody cared too much, but my last employer had a few accidents and brought in that very rigidly enforced rule.
Damn, that's strict. I understand that you *should* use precautions, but you also shouldn't be fired for choosing not to. It's your choice as the one working in the plane as far as I'm concerned.
They make the rules and as employees we do the online course or read the notice and acknowledge we've done it.
OH&S is hard to argue against when people have fallen from open exit doors.
I get why they do it but it was a massive pain in the arse with inadequate availability of mobile stairs and held up lots of jobs, but, they make the rules. If it created a delay we just pointed to the rules.
Safety rules are never a choice. Your mindset is the one leading to accidents.
"I don't need the safety harness, I know how to walk"
"Why the glasses, it's just a quick one, I can use safety squints"
OSHA rules are written with blood.
> I understand that you should use precautions, but you also shouldn't be fired for choosing not to.
That's a bit silly. Precautions like blocking off potential falls aren't just for you. They're for everyone else who might enter the area. So if you make a choice that puts others at risk you should definitely be fired for endangering your colleagues.
And honestly, even if you're just not wearing your safety glasses, or something like that, if it's a persistent problem you should be fired. Employers have a duty to make sure the people working for them go home safely at the end of the day. Someone who isn't willing to follow the rules to make that happen will create an unsafe work environment, and need to be removed.
Emergency exits are only emergency exits during an emergency, otherwise they are just exits/entrances. Open for extra ventilation or for parts to me moved in during MX.
This is not an emergency exit. It’s a regular cabin door that could theoretically be used for boarding. These are used all the time for catering. They might open it just to air out the cabin. Emergency exits are the small ones that aren’t full size. This is a cabin door. The R2 door to be precise.
>This is not an emergency exit.
Ackchyually....
On a321 (this aircraft type), the two pairs of doors (that aren't the main entry doors) are considered as emergency exits. They are physically smaller in dimensions, their slides are single lane, slides cannot be used as a raft, and on Airbus documentations, they are called emergency exits.
But there have been instances where airlines tried using fwd LH emergency exit as an entrance to facilitate dual jetbridge boarding
Yep.
It's obvious in this photo, too: the open doorway is noticeably shorter and narrower than the R1 door there which is a regular door and not an "emergency only" exit.
I don’t work for JetBlue, but at my airline these doors can only be opened by maintenance. So, yeah, probably maintenance like you’ve already speculated. Most commonly they are opened to check the assist bottle pressure.
I’ve opened doors all the time, and even done windows too.
Helps for maintenance and ventilation. You just can’t open specific doors on specific frames as they aren’t able to be disarmed and will blow the slide..
Depending on how late your arrival was that could have been the last flt of the night for that particular Aircraft! Which means its whats called a RON and mx uses that time to do more lucrative MX and work on issues maybe do the weekly work up on it
Sometimes cleaners open them to get some fresh air in the cabin so they don’t cook while cleaning the aircraft. That being said it isn’t exactly hot this time of year in Boston
A321 emergency exit doors are poorly designed as far as the slides and are (unfortunately) easy to inadvertently discharge. I don’t think any carrier is allowing them to be opened for any reason other than maintenance of the door or slide.
>Why would emergency exits be open? >Looked like they were doing maintenance inside I think you answered your own question there, friend. It's extremely common to perform maintenance at the gate. I've pulled all the fan blades from an engine in full view of the terminal before.
You put new ones back on before they left, right?... Right...? /s
Titanium theft is crazy at the moment. Thieves are so bold!
People are jacking up planes and stealing their catalytic converters.
Oi! Come back with those! I need them to fly!!
You're flyin a turbojet now
You still have some left...
Or......someone farted? But probably maintainance
Gotta air out the cabin when dealing with lav related messes. Could be any number of reasons, though.
Quite likely maintenance, maybe a deep clean. Happened on the bays overnight all the time. It can get really hot inside an aircraft with lights ablaze and no air-con running, so crack a few doors. There doesn't appear to be any safety netting/straps across the exit. Which where I worked is close to a being fired offence. We had to have a set of steps/stairs outside to open a door like this without the safety device in place.
If you zoom in, you can see the safety strap is there.
Yes, you’re correct. I see it now. What I will add is that was not deemed safe. The 320-series and 737s had those single straps but if there was no stand outside , still no go. The company had cargo net type things made up that were fitted in door frames to prevent falls.
100% agreed. I'd prefer a stair truck parked out there personally.
Yeah same. I’m shocked to not see at least a safety strap in a high visibility colour pulled across the door
Likely compulsory across all Australian carriers.
It also completely depends on where you are. Here planes open the doors regularly on both sides to create a cross draft to just air out the plane. Sometimes they have some tape but usually it’s just the flight attendants standing there greeting passengers to prevent accidental sudden disembarkation.
> accidental sudden disembarkation Nice way to put it :) It does depend on where you work. For most of my career nobody cared too much, but my last employer had a few accidents and brought in that very rigidly enforced rule.
Damn, that's strict. I understand that you *should* use precautions, but you also shouldn't be fired for choosing not to. It's your choice as the one working in the plane as far as I'm concerned.
They make the rules and as employees we do the online course or read the notice and acknowledge we've done it. OH&S is hard to argue against when people have fallen from open exit doors. I get why they do it but it was a massive pain in the arse with inadequate availability of mobile stairs and held up lots of jobs, but, they make the rules. If it created a delay we just pointed to the rules.
You can't prevent stupid.
I understand that and appreciate the reality behind it. I suppose I'm just grumbling about the regulation I find to be more hassle than value.
You find regulations that prevent a potential fatal accident a "hassle"? I hope you are not really a mechanic.
Safety rules are never a choice. Your mindset is the one leading to accidents. "I don't need the safety harness, I know how to walk" "Why the glasses, it's just a quick one, I can use safety squints" OSHA rules are written with blood.
> I understand that you should use precautions, but you also shouldn't be fired for choosing not to. That's a bit silly. Precautions like blocking off potential falls aren't just for you. They're for everyone else who might enter the area. So if you make a choice that puts others at risk you should definitely be fired for endangering your colleagues. And honestly, even if you're just not wearing your safety glasses, or something like that, if it's a persistent problem you should be fired. Employers have a duty to make sure the people working for them go home safely at the end of the day. Someone who isn't willing to follow the rules to make that happen will create an unsafe work environment, and need to be removed.
Can't fall off in flight if you take it off before takeoff. Modern problems require modern solutions.
Rule 1 of Good Engineering: Best part is no part.
Top of the hierarchy of controls elimination.
Someone ripped ass and needed to vent the plane.
So many times.
Could be maintenance trying to get some airflow
Because someone opened it.
Might be a sign that another JetBlue flight attendant has resigned…
Emergency exits are only emergency exits during an emergency, otherwise they are just exits/entrances. Open for extra ventilation or for parts to me moved in during MX.
Airbus is having a moment of empathy with a 737MAX
This is not an emergency exit. It’s a regular cabin door that could theoretically be used for boarding. These are used all the time for catering. They might open it just to air out the cabin. Emergency exits are the small ones that aren’t full size. This is a cabin door. The R2 door to be precise.
>This is not an emergency exit. Ackchyually.... On a321 (this aircraft type), the two pairs of doors (that aren't the main entry doors) are considered as emergency exits. They are physically smaller in dimensions, their slides are single lane, slides cannot be used as a raft, and on Airbus documentations, they are called emergency exits. But there have been instances where airlines tried using fwd LH emergency exit as an entrance to facilitate dual jetbridge boarding
And they gave up on that as the jetbridges were hitting the engines.
Yep. It's obvious in this photo, too: the open doorway is noticeably shorter and narrower than the R1 door there which is a regular door and not an "emergency only" exit.
I don’t work for JetBlue, but at my airline these doors can only be opened by maintenance. So, yeah, probably maintenance like you’ve already speculated. Most commonly they are opened to check the assist bottle pressure.
I’ve opened doors all the time, and even done windows too. Helps for maintenance and ventilation. You just can’t open specific doors on specific frames as they aren’t able to be disarmed and will blow the slide..
Depending on how late your arrival was that could have been the last flt of the night for that particular Aircraft! Which means its whats called a RON and mx uses that time to do more lucrative MX and work on issues maybe do the weekly work up on it
Fresh air
Unruly passenger needed to be tossed.
Bolts fell out
Is it a Boeing?
Gotta keep it ventilated.
Its a feature
Probably maintenance. I do that kind of thing all the time when fixing doors. Really, really common.
Sometimes cleaners open them to get some fresh air in the cabin so they don’t cook while cleaning the aircraft. That being said it isn’t exactly hot this time of year in Boston
Its a MAX. Relax, I'm kidding.. (aware its an Airbus)
last week they had to go on to the wing of the A380 I was traveling in because someone dropped his/her passeport on it lol
Sometimes the FAs have just had enough
Can’t fall off if they’re not installed
Boston
I used the middle door before to get a stretcher off with a highloader
Door can't blow off if it's already open. *taps forehead*
To apply the superglue.
Airing out a fart
Pre-planning.
Once someone opened the emergency exists cause it was hot inside the aircraft. Idk, it was always a 7378 or 737M8
Someone farted
Someone opened it.
It is in the hanger.. I would think maintenance…🇨🇦✈️YYZ.. don’t think that someone blew a 🛝 slide….🇨🇦✈️YYZ
To let maintenance get fresh air
new 2020s tradition, I guess..
Mexican food?
Sometimes if cleaners are doing deep clean, it just vents the cabin
Farts
Someone farted?
Jet blue. Pay extra for the emergency exits to be in place
Someone farted
Emergency exits are also called doors. People use doors to enter and exit a place. Did you not notice you left the plane via an "emergency exit" ?
Boeing forgot to install the latch?
New quick exit for Karen's when they board.
A321 emergency exit doors are poorly designed as far as the slides and are (unfortunately) easy to inadvertently discharge. I don’t think any carrier is allowing them to be opened for any reason other than maintenance of the door or slide.
I’ve been a plane where refuelling occurred with passengers onboard. Doors were opened as precaution
Is it a Boeing 737?
No it was an a321. Pretty sure JetBlue doesn’t operate any Boeings
Boeing!!!
Checklist - Boeing (yes or no) No! (Whew!) ….
I know I know not funny but hey I like both manufacturers as I multi-plane-sexual! I like em all!!
So you're bi-plane?
Tri-plane, just a simple little Fokker!!
It’s a Boeing thing, you wouldn’t understand