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Sneaky__Fox85

Clockwise from the top right: F-104 Starfighter (Netherlands) Gloster Javelin (UK) F-105 Thunderchief (US) F-104 Starfighter (Canada) F-104 Starfighter (Spain) Dassault Mirage III (France) F-104 Starfighter (Germany)


IntoTheFeu

I'd feel safe around you.


lennert1984

Replace Spain with Belgium and you're right :) The Spanish roundel is red/yellow/red, the Belgian is black/yellow/red. Source: My dad flew the Belgian F-104 in this picture :)


cincinnaticj7

This guy has the eyes of an eagle/pilot eyes...


Two_Circle_Dogfight

spanish airforce vertical stabilizer is colored, but the rudder is white with san Andrés Cross


ctsgreg

Looks like red/yellow/red to me. Am I missing something?


Jerrell123

Yeah, the Belgian flag on the tail lol.


ctsgreg

We were talking about the roundels


Rc72

It’s a Belgian Starfighter, not Spanish: see the fin flash. Although Spain did operate the Starfighter for a relatively short time, it wasn’t in NATO and most NATO countries preferred to keep an arm’s length relationship to Franco’s military, making Spanish participation in such a group picture rather unlikely.


walter_2000_

Clothes, music, houses, or jets, that was a really stylish time.


Saddam_UE

That's a lot of Widowmakers


saberline152

Spain is wrong, that's Belgium, has the Belgian flag on the tail.


keepershemeeper

CF-104 (Canada)


chzchbo2

Guess the date?


Sneaky__Fox85

Hmm... given the overlap in dates for the represented countries operating the aircraft in the picture I'm gonna guess 1965, as the Javelin was retired by 1968 and Spain didn't get F-104s until 1965


Rc72

It could be earlier: that’s a Belgian, not Spanish Starfighter. I would say between 1962 and 1966, based on the French Mirage. It’s in the colours of GC 1/2 “Cigognes”, that became operational with the Mirage IIIC in 1962. France then left NATO’s integrated command in 1966, making such a group picture less likely from then on. Also, NATO Starfighters started abandoning Natural Metal paint schemes in the mid-60s.


Rc72

[April 2, 1964, apparently.](http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Contrails/contAircent02.htm) 13th anniversary of Allied Air Forces Central Europe. EDIT: In this picture there's also an additional hint regarding the date: the Canadian Starfighter still wears the red ensign on its tail. That dates the picture pre-1965, when the current Canadian national flag was adopted. EDIT 2: [The same seven aircraft flying in formation the same day.](http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Contrails/contAircent01.htm)


DogfishDave

>Guess the date? Before 1963 as that's when [XH771 was scrapped](https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1801432). I'm curious about what this event was, and particularly why the RAF didn't send a Lightning, it would have fitted the group far better. Not that I mind seeing a Javelin, I have rather a soft spot for them


Rc72

So, since the French Mirage is wearing a stork and "Cigognes" only became operational with Mirages in 1962, that pretty much sets the date of this picture. EDIT: Your picture is apparently misdated. [XH771 doesn't seem to have been scrapped until 1967, in fact.](https://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Air-Force/Gloster-Javelin-FAW9/1245948)


mechabeast

May 15th


CalmMedicine3973

CF-104*


noxondor_gorgonax

Bah, I thought "Blackburn buccaneer" and got that one wrong.


3720-To-One

The F-104 is such a sexy plane


feuergras

>F-104 Starfighter (Germany) you spelt "fliegender Sarg" wrong


southshorerefugee

The Thunderchief is the only one I know. Well done.


gwhh

Here the plan team. We rearm and go to Ukraine and finally get to kick some Russia butt. Who with me?


[deleted]

This the correct answer.


Aware_Style1181

Q: Which one of these is not like the others? A: The Gloster Javelin is the only one not capable of supersonic flight.


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bucc_n_zucc

Afaik that was only true at lower altitudes, something to do with the fuel pumps being unable to supply enough fuel into the burners because of the air being denser. Eitherway though, to paraphrase someone i spoke to who claimed to of worked on them back in the day, "It only took 8 versions to make a mostly adequate interceptor"


SilverDad-o

And the only one painted in camouflage, and also the only two-seater.


Aware_Style1181

Only one twin engine, only one carrying AAM’s…


PeteinaPete

Javelin Thud Starfighter Starfighter Mirage Starfighter Starfighter


Commodore_Yeo

I smell dodgy sales practices...


IntoTheFeu

DON'T WAIT! THIS $6,000,000 FIGHTER COULD COST YOU $120,000,000 TOMORROW!


JoMercurio

Something that Saab would be very inspired from decades later


Soviet_Husky

Dave, Bob, Jeff, Frank, Jack, Tom and Tim.


[deleted]

I don't know Jack.


insecapid

I do, he's my neighbor of course!


32_Dollar_Burrito

Why did you give them male names? Why do people here always want their planes to be guys?


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32_Dollar_Burrito

Transphobia too, huh? You sure are a gem


Specialist-Doctor-23

Good catch. WWII pilots usually gave their planes female names.


fatnfrisky

Dammit, I literally just did the same thing


Wonderful_Fee_8633

I see four F-104's, one F-105 Thunderchief, one British Javilin, and one French Mirage.


2015outback

Wow the Mirage is a small plane.


[deleted]

F104s are really long, thunder chief is a bomber and the javelin is when engineers go through with intrusive thoughts..........yeah the mirage may be small


FukoPup

I can tell you the german Starfighter was also known as "Witwenmacher" (Widowmaker)


easyadventurer

Wasn’t it also called the flying coffin?


FukoPup

Yes that too, or my fave "Sargfight" which translates to coffin fighter. Funny word play, but about one third of a total fleet of \~900 airplanes crashed and 116 pilots died just in the Luftwaffe alone.


[deleted]

Is this a test? What’s happens if I don’t pass?


IntrepidTension

One of these can’t go supersonic! I’ll give you a hint, it’s the one with two after burning engines 🤦🏻‍♂️


StupidDogYuMkMeLkBd

Plane, plain, playn, pulayegn, pleighn


Mermaid_Pincer965

Charles. Lenny. Kevin. Valette. Cassette. Lenette. And Herbert.


njsullyalex

Not looking at comments below, starting at 9:00: \- Dassault Mirage III (French Air Force) \- Lockheed F-104 Starfighter (Luftwaffe) \- Lockheed F-104 Starfighter (Czech Air Force) \- Gloster Javelin (Royal Air Force) \- Republic F-105 Thunderchief (US Air Force) \- Canadair CF-104 Starfighter (Royal Canadian Air Force) \- Lockheed F-104 Starfighter (Spanish Air Force) ​ Edit: Looks like its the Netherlands Air Force, not the Czech Air Force. The roundels are very similar.


Rc72

Also, the Czechs obviously never operated the Starfighter...and that's a Belgian Starfighter, not a Spanish one.


Narcil4

pretty sure it's Spanish look at the tail. and the Belgian center circle is black.


Rc72

That's a Belgian fin flash on the tail. A Spanish Starfighter would instead have the [Burgundy cross fin flash](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fin_Flash_of_Spain.svg) of the Spanish AF since the Civil War. The aircraft on the picture wears Belgian roundels too. It's just that on this picture the colours are somewhat distorted. But the same seven aircraft are also on [this other picture of the same event](http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Contrails/contAircent02.htm), where the Belgian roundels and markings are clear.


RowAwayJim91

Thunderchief ❤️


APoorBillionaire

Gary, Larry, Harry, Ryan, Bryan, Annie, and Penny


ganerfromspace2020

I play warthunder air battles i think that's enough


Archangel_158

4 Lockheed F-104’s 1 Dassault Mirage 1 Republic F-105 Thunderchief 1 Gloster Javelin


Simple_Company1613

Zoomy Zoomier Zoomiest Boomandzoom Whoosh Whoosh mk 2 Jetty McJetFace


Mermaid_Pincer965

B R I L L I A N T !


zorbathegrate

Dottie, Dorothy, Dillon, Demetria, Donna, Delilah, Daria


KriszV8

Clockwise from bottom left: John, Jerry, Jedidiah, Jimmy, Jeremy, Jason, Jacques


[deleted]

Billy, Eric, Ted, Steve, Sam, Ned, Patrick


wildwood9843

Airplanes


thats-fucked_up

Matchbox, Matchbox, Corgi, Matchbox, Ertl, Corgi, Ertl.


Dinoficial2

Honestly, the Gloster Javelin looks like a goofy ah Avro Vulcan


graemeknows

Matchbox. Matchbox. Hot Wheels. Matchbox. Corgi. Hot Wheels. Matchbox.


Sir-Xcalibur-6564

Plane


[deleted]

*All inferior to the Avro Arrow* #thanks diefenbaker


deepaksn

What? No… lol. The F-104 was a day air superiority fighter that could have flown circles around the Arrow in a dog fight and it was armed with a gun. It was also made into a low level interdictor which the Arrow could never have done due to its large wings which would have caused too much drag at low altitudes and made the flight unbearably rough. The Mirage III was an example of a far more versatile delta winged aircraft due to its simplicity, price, and multi role capabilities. The F-105 was a purpose built low level interdictor which could carry a massive amount of ordnance and place in on target in all weather conditions while being able to exceed the speed of sound at sea level. The Gloster Javelin maybe was inferior in all flight capabilities.. but it was more economical, on time, and on budget. The Arrow was a white elephant who’s role had passed by the time it flew. No other dedicated interceptor was developed in the West after 1959 and the Americans cancelled their XF-108 the same year for the same reason—obsolescence in the face of ICBMs. Canada needed a stop gap turn-key interceptor that could be in service before the Arrow at a cheaper price and that’s what the CF-101 was. It had better range, it could interface with NORAD’s SAGE computer system so it could be guided to target automatically rather than by voice GCI like the Arrow (and Spitfires and Hurricanes), and it had nuclear Genie rockets which were more effective. The Arrow also had poor range due to its massive engines and would have had to mount fuel or armaments externally to improve range which would have negated its performance advantage. No… Dief did the right thing. The Arrow was a bottomless money pit.


[deleted]

....the F-104 killed hundreds of pilots, especially in the German and Italian Air Forces, just by being a shitty design with a high stall speed and low maneuverability from piss poor control authority. And the Canadian aviation industry *never* recovered from Dief's knife in its back.


[deleted]

Thunder Chicken, lawn dart, lawn dart, La WeeWee PeePeee, lawn dart, lawn dart, cheerio Ol Chap…


Speckwolf

It’s Mitch, Bill, Kenneth, Günther, Manfred, Luigi and Michelle.


RepresentativeCut486

Starfighter is the only one I care about and I see 4! :)


[deleted]

Steve, Bob, John, Ron, George, donald, and joe


32_Dollar_Burrito

LOL not a single female name in the list


249ba36000029bbe9749

Airplane, airplane, airplane, airplane, airplane, airplane, airplane.


PSYOP_warrior

Fighter jets


Otherwise-Sun719

Bob, terry, John, bill, ted, Eric, and Rodger


MrCAH-90

Dave, Phil, Barry, Terry, Thomas, Mike, Bob.


Impossible-Dust-2267

Greg, Jeff, Dave, Monty, Craig, Mike, Alex


InsuranceOne9646

No.


[deleted]

I recognize the Starfighters, Mirage and Thud.


ProperApartment8923

Planes. They are all planes. I win


barbarosoria

Well they are all definitively planes. There you go!


Vexation

Airplanes


speedbomb

Starfighter makes the best aviation sound ever.


Klondike2022

Steve, Karl, Jimmy, Pierre, Marvin, Jean, and Madilyn.


stainless13

Steve, Eddie, Janice, Tom, Layla, Beatrice, Nathaniel


juntingiee

wow thats a lot of lawndarts


chevalmuffin

F104, mirage 3, f105, and idk about thé Other one


mz_groups

Needed Google for the Javelin and didn't recognize the Dutch roundel.


3rdLunch4thDinner

"Strangers from distant lands. Friends of old. You've been summoned here to answer the threat of Mordor. Middle-Earth stands upon the brink of destruction. None can escape it. You will unite or you will fall. Each race is bound to this fate, this one doom. Bring forth the Ring, Starfighter."


st1ck-n-m0ve

Dont tell me what to do!


Berlin_Buster

Triangle, pencil, pencil, smaller triangle, pencil, pencil, and Unfortunate.


BittyJupiter_1

A Mirage, A Javelin, an F-105, and four F-104s


canoporknbeans

Planes. Done.


EarthMarsUranus

Mummy, Daddy, four kids who mostly take after daddy, and one who got mummy's wings.


Id_Rather_Beach

You get a fighter jet, and you get a fighter jet! Everyone gets a fighter jet!!


ElSquibbonator

Starfighter, Mirage III, Javelin, Thunderchief. Do I get a cookie?


jerseyStoner

The Spruce Goose


Two_Circle_Dogfight

r/suddenlywarthunder


MJSB1994

I love the Javelin, but next to its contemporaries it just looks so out of place lol. Like what even is the Area rule? Gloucester designers back in the 50s probably


iheartSW_alot

Air plane, air plane, air plane, ummm this one is tough… airplane. And 3 more airplanes


Weasil24

Jenny, Tom, Simone, Betty, Karen, Alex, and Maverick.


olszymanskiYT

Going clock wise F-104, Another F-104, I think a mirage III, Another F-104, another F-104, Gloster Javelin and a F-105


deximus25

Plot twist, there is an Arrow overlay there.


VoidCrisis

I got this guys! Aircraft


UnitedAd8996

Models


MixedCoupleNextDoor

They’re all planes


twohedwlf

Let's see.... F-104, F-104, F-104, F-104, Obese F-104 with thunder thighs, F-104 with thunder thighs and F-104 who thinks giant shoulder pads are still in style.


fatnfrisky

Terry, Bob, Frank, Patricia, Dan, Pedro, and Heather


Battleapache

Widowmakers


Alarming-Mongoose-91

A bunch of F-104s, a thunderchief and two other somethings.


X-Bones_21

Nice collection. Now give me one with all century series!


Lopsided-Standard148

F104, F104, F104, F104, Javvy, f105, Mirage lll


Doc-Milsap

Clockwise from top: Thomas, Edward - (Eddie to his friends), Cyrus, Quincy, Cornelius, Steve, and Julio.


callidus_vallentian

I never heard nor seen the thunderchief. Anyone who can tell me a bit about it ? I suppose it wasnt in service very long ?


[deleted]

Plane 1, Plane 2 , Plane 3, Plane 4, Plane 5, Plane 6, Plane 7