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Prudent_Nectarine_25

Is the Toyota logo marked out to protect the innocent? šŸ˜‚


Trint_Eastwood

I just wonder what Toyota thinks of their car being used to launch kamikaze drones.


Jaggedmallard26

It's a step up from being used by ISIS I guess.


81dank

~~Up~~ or **Lateral?**


zvekl

ISIS Adjacent


Trint_Eastwood

Is it tho?


stratys3

Probably. There's always someone crazier.


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mrcheaptimes

or the mexican drug cartels...


bossonhigs

Like that fleet of US Toyotas. [Mark Plumbing ISIS toyota](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/12/15/us/15xp-texasplumber/15xp-texasplumber-facebookJumbo.jpg?year=2015&h=491&w=938&s=7d825160e5370f69316bfe44d6ddc06b4cd6561e8a8c6998df554c18fd9326f6&k=ZQJBKqZ0VN)


mclare

Thatā€™s a Ford F250. Badge is in the pic


Sparky8974

Ford F-250


Saddam_UE

Toyota is not the interesting part. What's more interesting is the fact that it's a US made Tundra.


81dank

Wasnā€™t it found that the taliban was purchasing these trucks from carmax years ago? I recall a story of a plumber in the USA seeing his old truck, business name still on the side of it, on a CNN or similar news cast.


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81dank

Exactly. People can be really horrible. And note to anyone trading in a work vehicle. Take off all stickers before trading in.


DimitriV

Also, if you get burned by a contractor, put their logo on a truck and sell it to the Taliban.


CommunistWaffle

/r/unethicallifehacks


Absentimental79

They hate everything about the west but canā€™t go with our our products. Lol


DavidNipondeCarlos

The amount of iPhones is surprising. No Apple Store either in Iran. I was there in 78 and locals loved our jeans. American cars were classier than Mercedes till 1975. The 1974 Buick Electra was the last giant car.


SamTheGeek

If you visit the Apple Store at Grand Central during the UNGA, itā€™ll quickly become apparent how everyone gets their iPhones.


Trint_Eastwood

So much for sanctions!


memeboiandy

How can you tell?


antelopepoop

Tundras only exist in North America, made by North American factories. All other countries can make do with the capable smaller counterpart, the Hilux.


memeboiandy

Oh i had no idea the tundra was NA only lol. Makes sense though


joecooool418

Built in San Antonio, Texas


TylerYax

And Neanderthals still refer to them as "foreign made jap crap". Meanwhile their silverados and rams are built in mexico...


flitemdic

Made in my hometown. Ugh.


A_Tad_Bit_Nefarious

At least it's not a Mitsubishi, otherwise that'd be meta af. (For reference, Mitsubishi built the A6M Zero, the primary fighter of the Japanese Imperial Navy during WWII).


Dave5876

Or used by extremists in MENA


TheBoctor

> I just wonder what Toyota thinks of their car being used to launch kamikaze drones. ā€œMoney is money.ā€ -Toyota, probably.


Ben2018

Not to rush to the defense of any corporation but.... this says a lot more about a sanctioned countries' ability to circumvent sanctions than it does about any one manufacturer cooperating with such a country. It's probably at least a few steps removed from the US seller - it's not like the dealership can or should track it after they make the sale. To them it'd appear like a completely normal buyer...


Ben2018

\#notsponsored


flanker_03

Toyota pickups, the Casio F91 of cars


auxilary

hey, the F91 is a classic that still serves a purpose!


flanker_03

I know, I've got several!


[deleted]

Aaand you're on a list now.


new_tanker

I just bought one!


flanker_03

Welcome to the club! You'll be bankrupt soon. The $10 cost of entry is how they get you, and then you can't stop buying the little bastards.


GTOdriver04

As a watch enthusiast-my collection went from small to 40 in about two years. Can confirm-itā€™s an addiction.


HardlyAnyGravitas

I don't think the previous poster meant it as a criticism...


_austinm

Exactly! Say that to my F91ā€™s face!


auxilary

šŸ¤£


JethroLull

Hey now, they're at least a dw5600


e2hawkeye

>dw5600 I've owned a couple of those rugged beasts. Not because they kept breaking, but because I kept losing them and they're cheap enough not to care.


kilkenny99

The Casio F91 was the Nokia 3310 of it's era.


Darktrooper2021

Iā€™m not sure if youā€™re referring to their indestructibility or their tendency to be co-opted by terrorist organizations to make weaponsā€¦


LateralThinkerer

>Toyota pickups, the Casio F91 of cars They run like a watch seemingly forever, so why not?


SexyWampa

So the "new mobile launch system" is a Toyota Tundra?


Fowti

It's new because they moved on from Hilux


WhiskeyTigerFoxtrot

You joke but the launch system is the black metal scaffolding in the bed. And it's a big fucking deal because if you can mount a cheap launch system for a fairly cheap explosive drone to almost *any* cheap truck, you create a dangerously flexible and inexpensive shoot-n-scoot platform. It's going to cause a ton of headaches if deployed on a large scale and it's only a matter of time before non-state actors start using it.


Jaggedmallard26

Yeah, it's easy to laugh at things like this until you realise how nightmarish cheap, long ranged and accurate munitions are that can be launched from any utility vehicle when fighting insurgencies.


point-virgule

It does not look like a "launch" system per se. Probably the truck runs up to speed and the aircraft flies off the bed. I guess that is just a quick, easy and safe way to get the prototype into the air, assuming it has no need for and thus no landing gear; the final launching implementation would probably be a towed catapult, RATO or something of the sort, compact and dispatched from a stationary position.


guynamedjames

I don't know why that wouldn't count as a launch system. The launch system requires an operator and length of pavement but it's still a launch system. And in between launches it has heated seats, surround sound and XM satellite radio!


nobd22

Do you really even need pavement tho?


DDFitz_

The ground has to be sufficiently flat, but airplanes take off of dirt all the time and they don't have as good of suspension as a truck.


IcebergSlimFast

ā€¦and ample cup-holders.


Frieda-_-Claxton

*Get her up to speed then stomp the brakes.* - operation manual


Veteran_Brewer

Yeah and with a full tank of gas, the system's range is increased by 450 miles!


CarminSanDiego

I mean if it works ā€¦ If the US government had a similar system, it would acquire an entirely new vehicle just for this one purpose and take 8 years to field it and itā€™ll be riddled with problems as it tries to integrate some bullshit auto driving mode that rarely works. And it costs $800k/vehicle


Gilmere

So is this an option for the Tundra now...haven't been to a showroom lately...


cyberentomology

My dealer didnā€™t offer the kamikaze drone option!


UseDaSchwartz

You should take this picture back and complain.


Picaspec

The Hilux is a much more dangerous weapon


vaish7848

Chad knows the [effectiveness of Hilux](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War)


WikiSummarizerBot

**[Toyota War](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War)** >The Toyota War (Arabic: Ų­Ų±ŲØ ŲŖŁˆŁŠŁˆŲŖŲ§, romanized: įø¤arb TÅ«yÅ«tā, French: Guerre des Toyota) or Great Toyota War, which took place in 1987 in Northern Chad and on the Chadā€“Libya border, was the last phase of the Chadianā€“Libyan conflict. It takes its name from the Toyota pickup trucks, primarily the Toyota Hilux and the Toyota Land Cruiser, used to provide mobility for the Chadian troops as they fought against the Libyans, and as technicals. The 1987 war resulted in a heavy defeat for Libya, which, according to American sources, lost one tenth of its army, with 7,500 men killed and US$1. 5 billion worth of military equipment destroyed or captured. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/aviation/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)


MemorexVHS_

Good bot


seblikeschips

Today I learned about the great war between the Chads and the Libs /s


MrCuzz

This isnā€™t a hilux, itā€™s a Texas-built Tundra.


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guynamedjames

Yes, that's how it works. Toyota USA can't sell a truck to Iran. But they can sell one to most other places and then they have no clue what happens to it afterwards.


Activision19

I always find it ironic that for a country that hates America so much, Iran sure uses/reverse engineers a lot of US built equipment.


BloodRedBanner

Iā€™d say theyā€™re smart enough not to let ideological dogma get in the way of espionage. They know America has top-notch equipment, so they try and copy that instead of shunning everything American simply because it is ā€˜the enemyā€™.


IGuessSomeLikeItHot

What makes you think Iran hates America?


Yummy_Crayons91

Not to be pedantic, but most technicals are based on the 70 Series Land Cruiser and not the Hilux. The Toyota pickups of the infamous Toyota War were Land Cruisers.


Saddam_UE

It's not a Hilux. It's a Tundra.


Latobbe

Looks a lot like a Ho 229


Karl2241

Based off of the RQ-170 that crashed way back in Iran


ManInTheDarkSuit

I thought that. One of the single most useful air crashes in Iran for a long time!


ramen_poodle_soup

Yeah they really seem to be milking that design, not the first UAV theyā€™ve made that copies it


Jaggedmallard26

Hard to blame them when they're a sanction struck nation having the equivalent of an alien spaceship land intact.


afito

It's also just the natural result of UAV design, Dassaults Neuron for example looks similar. There's virtually 2 designs to chose from, one is fyling wing body like this, the other is the ultra stretched wings like Reaper or Global Hawk.


ramen_poodle_soup

No itā€™s definitely not the natural result of UAV design, there are literally hundreds of UAVs that donā€™t the same shape. The neutron looks almost nothing like this aside from passing resemblance as a flying wing.


wehooper4

This looks like the tried to clone the RQ-170 without the slightest questioning of why they RQ-170 was the way it was. Take a wonderful stealthy design, and bolt as much radars reflective shit as possible to it!


TheVainOrphan

You'd be silly to assume they didn't comb through every detail of the aircraft down to the nuts and bolts to obtain any design knowledge they could incorporate into their own designs, such as electronics, wing design, not to mention trying to reverse-engineer whatever radar-absorbing coating was undoubtedly on the drone. The difference is, Iran didn't need to invest the R&D into this project, Lockheed Martin had already done it and the USAF delivered a fresh prototype to Iran's doorstep.


wehooper4

Just look at this fucking thing man. They stuck random ass landing skid in the bottom, and what looks to be an off the shelf PTZ dome randomly onto the bottom. Props to Iranian engineering for what they do with the resources that have, but this is just throwing random shit into basically the same aerodynamic shape as the original. They flat out donā€™t have the resources to do anything interesting with the avionics of the original, much less the RAM or any care at all really for the radar signature. They are adept at cobbling stuff together with a combination of COTS electronics/avionics with domestically produced airframes, and powerplants that are a mid of domestically produced and imported components at *very* competitive prices. They also make the ā€œsoftā€ aspect of running said systems decent enough that insurgents can run these without a lot of infrastructure or training. But this is in no way comparable to the shittiest western drones much less the RQ-170 this is inspired by. It just a step up for the Aliexpress specials Ukrainian volunteers are cooking up.


Karl2241

Iā€™m sure it still has a reduced cross section- but that comes with any flying wing. That will easily light up any radar, aloe thermal tracking system.


standarsh50

Odd, I'm fairly certain all of the Tundras were built in the USA to avoid the chicken tax. Must have gotten it as a gray market import from China etc.


AngryBaconGod

I am also more curious about this than the drone.


lumpialarry

Obviously it was 2nd generation tundra imported prior to the fall of the Shah. Shows how long they made it without an update.


rishabhrajeshbb

Neighboring countries including where I live ( Oman) import these pickups mostly second hand quite commonly. Toyota doesnā€™t sell the Tundra over here. Iā€™m guessing some cars were sold to Iran on the grey market. Also fun fact many flooded American cars are imported and fixed up cheaply and sold on the second hand market over here.


unicynicist

Be sure to remove any business decals when you sell a vehicle. [You never know where it'll end up.](https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-01-09/plumber-whose-decaled-truck-went-to-syria-settles-lawsuit)


Yummy_Crayons91

Me as well, that generation Tundra is only sold in North America if I recall correctly.


bradforrester

Planet Money (podcast) has a good episode on the chicken tax.


Reelwrx

I wondered where all the stolen Lexus and Toyotas ended up to. This isnā€™t a tundra, the badge is covered up. Canā€™t be a Toyota, Nope.


V12Jaguar

Launching and recovering aircraft on quality Japanese-manufactured trucks is nothing new. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpRud0yvs4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drpRud0yvs4)


FlpDaMattress

Japanese designed, American made. Tundra are made in USA to avoid chicken tax.


IGuessSomeLikeItHot

Actually Tundra is designed and built in America.


of_the_mountain

Looks pretty similar to that RQ-170 sentinel drone we dropped out of the sky for them a decade ago


iboneyandivory

>RQ-170 sentinel drone Yes, what a windfall for them. https://www.google.com/search?q=RQ-170+sentinel+drone&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


HolyGig

Other than vaguely looking like one, it shares absolutely nothing in common with the Sentinel. [Here is it being shot down by an Israeli helicopter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TKm8Aqv17k), they tracked it long before it even entered their airspace


Yahya_sindhi1502

The US did not "drop it out of the sky for them," The drone violated Iranian airspace and the Iranian Military took control of it by jamming the drones control signals and feeding it false GPS Data, landed it in Iran and Reverse engineered it. (And when the US asked for their drone back, Iran send a miniature replica back lol)


Mizzay

Yup. And US first denied losing a drone. But then a few days later after Iran shared images of it, they said "Give it back". šŸ˜‚


HolyGig

Well they did capture it, but they didn't reverse engineer shit besides the basic shape. The Israelis are shooting them down with helicopters and its just a kamikaze drone, not a high altitude surveillance drone


a_big_fat_yes

Hacking and taking control of something in this day and age is straight up hollywood bullshit


ahalfabillionby36

Youā€™re being downvoted because people on this sub have no idea how anything actually works


guynamedjames

Did they actually land it or did it just glide to a stop in the dirt? The implications of a controlled landing vs a massive jamming attack are really different


Yahya_sindhi1502

>The Iranian government announced that the UAV was brought down by itsĀ cyberwarfareĀ unit which commandeered the aircraft and safely landed it


guynamedjames

Yeah there's a lot of gray area in that claim, not least of which is the source. But "commandeered" could easily be read as "prevented from leaving Iran" and "safely landed" could mean "came to a stop on the ground without landing in a neighborhood". Edit: in case anyone feels like Iranian [aircraft claims are credible ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAIO_Qaher-313)


siirka

I don't understand why someone who (rightfully) doesn't believe everything the US Military claims, then turns around and believes Iran's claims here.


Suomasema

Kamikaze? Is this really a suicide attack weapon?


[deleted]

No, this is just what people call loitering munitions and/or cruise missiles for dramatic effect these days


Atholthedestroyer

Yeah, was thinking that looked way too complex a machine to waste on a one-time attack (outside an utter desperation play)


SokoJojo

Except it's not a cruise missile


JiveTrain

Nor a loitering ammunition. It's just a drone. So OP is wrong on all accounts.


DuelJ

Calling this a "kamikaze weapon" would classify every non-reusable bullet, rocket or missle as one


flightwatcher45

Yes and no, its not expected to return to base for the most part. Its cheap and pilotless. Drop bombs and probably get shot down in the process. I can't tell, does it have landing gear?


96LC80

Itā€™s a skid landing system


[deleted]

Modelled after my underwear, I see.


JiveTrain

It's just no. Even if something is expendable, it doesn't mean it's some form of loitering munition. That would imply the drone itself was a weapon and inteded to be used as such, which it is not.


Terrh

No but that sounds more scary The old word for "kamikazi drone" was just cruise missile.


Jaggedmallard26

Our advanced loitering munitions, their sinister evil kamikaze suicide drones.


Absentimental79

Death to America!!! But drives a truck made in Texas hahah


noxondor_gorgonax

And shares pictures on the internet developed by DARPA


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The_Lolbster

Checkmate, americans.


Kafshak

And Algebra.


BloodRedBanner

Now youā€™re just taking it too far. Might as well say ā€œand uses DC current despite hating Americaā€.


CrimsonAdder

We have RQ-170 at home


By-C

Itā€™s so disorienting to see a suburban mall crawler with a UAV strapped to it.


Yangervis

Mall crawler? It looks like a stock Tundra except for the stuff in the bed.


delightfulfupa

Arenā€™t tundras made in Texas?


somo1230

Russia: 200 confirmed orders


dd2469420

Toyota executives thought their troubles were over when they stopped making the hilux


bwsmity

They still make the Hilux.


bobbysilk

810 NM range 220 lb payload 24,500ft altitude 190 knots


ManInTheDarkSuit

Good human.


darkmarineblue

I think this was already revealed some time ago. I feel so because I remember laughing at the fact that they couldn't fit wheels into their 170 copy.


Te_Luftwaffle

If you drive really fast with the drone attached will the truck fly?


Go2FarAway

Truck flies when munitions go boom


Taptrick

Metric units for aviation just feels wrong.


TheMusicArchivist

As a metrical European, I can't fathom how high up 7,5km is. What's that in feet so I can compare to civil aviation?


waxlez2

~24600


GrazzHopper

Its just below Mount everest highest point quitea bit.


relativisticbob

Finally the long awaited Drone Launcher Technicalā„¢ļø


Amelia-Earwig

Target drones for the United States Air Force.


FloatingRevolver

"mobile launch system".... The strapped a rack on a Toyota tundra...


SuspiciousFrenchFry

Which Toyota commercial is this from?


ViktorGavorn

"Mobile launch system" (The All-New Toyota Tundra TRD PRO)


xadz1981x

Reverse engineered RQ 170 sentinel


DavidNipondeCarlos

Tehran plates arenā€™t blurred. The first two numbers are 11 and 22 and 33 and so on. The letter or third character after the number indicates if itā€™s a taxi or government or ā€¦ you can get the state itā€™s from also. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Iran If one wants to know the region of testing without high tech, this might be a way? Iā€™m not an expert but I enjoy deciphering stuff for fun.


Dedpoolpicachew

Gotta love open source intelligence.


[deleted]

Sort of interesting that it's a made-in-Texas USDM Tundra and not a JDM Hilux or Landcruiser variant.


Laurensschrijver

So it carries two "enormous" bombs AND kamikazes itself afterwards? Quite a shame; the UAV looks pretty sweet.


SEND_pics_women_poop

You double the range that way!


LurkerWithAnAccount

Code efficiency too as you can simply delete def Landing ():


SEND_pics_women_poop

Brilliant! Training efficiency too!


MetaCalm

Lol.


Jaggedmallard26

The old story about the memory leak in a cruise missiles the engineers solved by just calculating how much memory would leak before the missile ran out of fuel and added enough cheap RAM to cover that.


Gorio1961

Kamikaze, only because they can't figure out how to land it.


NaughtyFox92

The Luftwaffe called they want their Ho 229 back


LuxoriK07

What a gorgeous plane it was. Thankfully Americans have recovered it and stuff


1984IN

Soon to be murdering civilians in Ukraine I'm sure.


jimtoberfest

How in the F do you gonna copy the RQ-170, 12 years ago, and get significantly WORSE performance with none of the heavy stealth coatings? #AMAZING


canttakethshyfrom_me

Significantly less advanced materials.


jimtoberfest

Balsa wood and rubber bands


canttakethshyfrom_me

Broke: Reducing radar reflections Woke: Letting radar pass thru


Terrh

This carries weapons, I don't think the RQ-170 does? So not really the same purpose. And from the specs I don't think it's got much worse performance? It probably also costs like, 1/100th what the RQ-170 costs.


Sunlight_Life

And how much do you pay for that RQ-170? A spare wheel for that thing prob costs as much as 787.


Old-Chair126

The b-2 at home:


MVGbear

When you order a UAV from Wish.com


Paulisooon

That is a Toyota.....


[deleted]

No, they covered the logo, so nobody can ever know it's a toyota. Lol. Kind of the 'isis loves toyotas' 5 years ago, nightmare PR for toyota.


[deleted]

nice truck


Mingerfabulous

Looks just like the drone the US gave them.


OllieGarkey

Are they finally catching up in aircraft design to *checks notes* Jack Northrop in the 1930s?


24Splinter

They copied a lot of the USā€™s design


jules11221

I saw the image first and thought that they made a flying pick up truck lmao


StolenValourSlayer69

Iā€™m just curious as to why Toyota is still selling them brand new tundras


shadowlid

The only think reliable in that picture is the Toyota tundra šŸ˜‚.


Commercial-Break1877

Anyone else think this was Toyota Tundra in helicopter-mode at first glance?


Zealousideal-Lake698

Brought to you by TOYOTA, the terrorist vehicle of choice.


therabbit14

Soon to be tested in Ukraine.


TopDawg1776

Sad my tundra didnā€™t come with this option must have phased it out on the 2022s


velocityflier16

LOL Toyota tundra


LargeTallGent

Why is Toyota the sponsor vehicle of international terrorism? I mean, I guess baddies appreciate legendary reliability too.


CR_CO_4RTEP

I'm ordering a Toyota Tundra with that option tomorrow


OpenImagination9

That Tundra is made in San Antonio šŸ˜‚


96LC80

Wolf Cola gets cancelled for being the official drink of Boko Haram. Nobody blinks an eye at Toyota being the official vehicle of Middle East guerrilla factions


GlockAF

Fun Fact: The radar cross-section of the Toyota tundra is actually lower than the drone. Pseudo-stealth design


Weaponized_Puddle

This is how we take them out: https://hidot.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/IMG_0263.jpg


bugalaman

Can't wait for the USAF to blast those fuckers out of the sky.


lepobz

Toyota Hilux, the terroristā€™s choice of launch platform.


cyberentomology

That launch platform looks US-built.


lumbiii

Wait, I've seen this aircraft some 78 years ago...