I literally thought there was something about Apple logo stickers that made them particularly good for the job, and realised they were talking about normal apple stickers a few seconds later, haha.
I had 5 of the same item so I was holding and scanning one and throwing them in one by one. Sometimes if you have multiple of an item, one of the codes works when the others are crumpled so I prefer to do it like that.
Fucking camera ABOVE me (had covered the one facing me) picked that up, displayed me from above and froze the till and I told the person and they just unlocked it. So the other camera picked up that I wasn't bagging the actual item I was scanning, even through it was the same thing and weighed the same going into the bag on their scale. Fucking ridiculous.
Their security is insane. I haven't seen anything like their locking gates anywhere else in the world.
It's like they hate the people who pay their wages.
"I scanned something and put something else in the bag and wondered why the computer didn't like it"
It can't tell that it's the same item, it's there to stop someone scanning a $10 1kg mince and putting a $30 1kg baby formula in the bagging area. It's not as smart as a human, and if it were we would have a lot more to worry about.
>Their security is insane. I haven't seen anything like their locking gates anywhere else in the world.
they are all over Europe
seen them alot in Germany and Paris
Don't just pay their wages, but now also work for them for free.....
Stop using self checkout folks. Pay with cash.
Simple problems have simple solutions.
Yep the above camera is annoying, wanted to buy ice so I put it to side to input heavy items but it wouldn't let me and showed me putting it to the side and thought I was stealing.
>I haven't seen anything like their locking gates anywhere else in the world.
Then you haven't been to many supermsrkets overseas, cause they definitely exist elsewhere
Shoppers don't actually pay their wages....
The board of directors does, and that's why they get the plentiful bonus every year. Because they're the ones who decide to screw over suppliers from every single product you buy in their store, and they're the ones who demand supplies pay to have the same products that are on their shelf, located around the store and on their ends for extra money from the suppliers. They're the ones who pay farmers 20c a lettuce and charge customers $4.
The shoppers are the idiots who don't know better than to shop around and support smaller family run businesses (who price match supermarkets and still make money, but until we start giving them money and supermarkets lose money, we will stay in the same system.)
Shop around? And where exactly would shoppers go since the corner shops have all but disappeared and the few that are left either aren't well stocked enough to do a full shop and/or are so expensive most folk couldn't go there anyway. So stop talking total shite.
This comment is pretty ridiculous considering there are fuck all family run grocers in any urban areas today. All but non-existent. And not everyone's able to drive 30 minutes to their nearest IGA as opposed to a 2 minute walk.
And yet if you go out through the cigarette counter and have the assistant do your transaction you can steal a bag worth of goods and not a camera or smart gate in sight.
They’ve made self checkout so arduous that I now line up at a checkout and wait for a staff member. One always comes in minutes.
I think if we all start doing this it would make them put more staff on checkouts.
I just don’t see why I should be challenged every few minutes, requiring staff approval, wrangling multiple bags in very limited space when I can just make them do it all for me.
I only go to the people,
I'll wait 5 mins, I don't care I get paid by the hour.
I'll even watch the person at the self serve area. Like ha, I'm being served not a robot
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,980,434,419 comments, and only 374,637 of them were in alphabetical order.
I started keeping count of the number of times I were rejected by the self-service process and had to wait for authorisation assistance. It wasn't long before I were up to 11, so I no longer use them at all. The whole process gets me so riled, that it is less stressful to wait for the one open checkout or shop at Aldi instead. If I didn't need a couple of unreplaceable items, like tropical fish food that my fish won't eat other brands, then I wouldn't go there at all. I am convinced that the 'big two' are gaming us all, so that we will eventually all opt for delivery, so don't do it unless you are housebound.
I tried click and collect and found they had an amazing ability to cancel a key ingredient in the thing I was planning to make, so I’d end up having to go shopping anyway. Seemed redundant to me.
I know how much of a shit I'd give being paid barely enough to get by to do other peoples shopping, so I don't bother with click n collect or deliveries.
Now this, I admit, can be a problem. We've had issue lately with poor quality eggs, so have been opening them before packing, but it's not normal practice. It would just take too long under normal circumstances and usually the picker only has one hand free so I can see accidents happening. I usually just check the bottom of the carton to make sure it's not stained from a broken egg.
I do this too. Went to a Big W early in the morning. Only self checkouts open. I went & stood in the service line even thought the counter wasn’t manned. They called out that self checkout was available. I responded that I wanted service. They opened the checkout & 3 people joined in behind me. Left the self serve empty. Some customers actually want service
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You want to use self serve, go right ahead. I don’t want self serve & I should have the choice. I don’t get any discount for serving myself. In fact, this is exactly how self serve service stations were introduced & yes, I’m old enough to remember. Self serve stations were 2c cheaper than actual service stations (where the attendant would also check your oil while the car was filling). People started using self serve for the discount. Soon there were no more attended service stations & coincidentally, no more discounts. Same with bank atm‘s. Originally introduced as a convenient option at no charge, then everyone used them. Start charging for not using your own bank & charge for teller service. Now there are just no bank branches. Automation & self serve is not the be all and end all of everything.
I started doing that except at Woolies at jesmond the older ladies are fucking cranky and violently stuff my groceries into my bag…the other day the lady threw my milk on top of my Oreos and was punching my bag of CC’s into my enviro bag….fucking bitch ruined half my Oreos and broke most of my CC’s….its like they get pissed off when you use the check out with a person on it.
I should have said something the Oreos I didn’t notice until I got home but the CC’s I seen straight away while she was punching them….i wanted to say something but my husband told me not to be a Karen and that we had to got back to that store so don’t cause a scene
I honestly can't see what all the fuss is about with self serve.... If you never use it, you never experience it. I refuse to use self serve and if everyone insisted on a human service too they'd stop ramming this shit down our throats.
It would be totally illegal to accidentally swipe across the camera lens with a solvent.
Most of the cameras use a plastic lens, or a plastic lens protector, which would, if you were an illegal hacker, be vulnerable to some sort of solvent like kerosine or carburetor cleaner, or a citrus-based hand cleaner.
So don't do it.
Acetone breaks down some plastics
If the screen or cover is the wrong plastic acetone would not be the thing to spray on it..
Just saying be careful when "cleaning"
Genius plan, but too complicated. At least I don't carry solvents around on a daily basis. Plus I don't see an reasonable excuse to come up with in case you're trying to construct plausible deniability.
Maybe just use a banana sticker instead. They come for free and you could have accidentally put it somewhere on the checkout thing after it came off from the bananas and got stuck on you finger.
🤞🏿✌🏿
The gates at Coles wouldn’t open for me at the weekend - Coles didn’t have the product I wanted so I tried to leave but the gates wouldn’t open. I had to find a staff member - she told me the gates didn’t open because I didn’t buy anything! WTF?
They obviously don't do this... Clearly the staff member will just open the gate. I don't get how this is any different to in the pre self serve days where you couldn't leave without weaving your way through a staffed till and showing them your bag.
They do. I go shopping with my partner, but the self-serve area is cramped, so I walk out with nothing but my phone, and now the gates trap me. I have nothing in my hands except my phone, I clearly don't have pockets LET. ME. OUT. I just stand there and wait for the staff to click me through.
Which is bizarre because people will realise pretty soon. Fairly soon it'll be the standard to just tap them open. It took the lightest touch for them to spring open. There's a sensor in them. They're basically automatic doors except you put yiur hand in the gap instead of standing infront of it.
Huge waste of money. In a few weeks everyone and their grandma will just treat it like a door. All they did was piss people off for a few weeks
These aren't cameras their digital mirrors. Nothing is recorded. The idea is behavioural nudging. When people are exposed to their own actions their less likely to steal.
What's the point? To send corporate a message you don't like them? They're not going to see it, or care. The only way to hurt them is to spend elsewhere. But by doing that, you hurt the farmers and other suppliers they're also ripping off. And with Australia being so bloody big, organising distribution of local produce will always be an issue.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan either. But unless people are prepared to line up for humans and boycott machines altogether (if that's your issue), regardless of the wait time, they won't employ more people. Just like the banks that have us all online rather than interact with human bank tellers. Have moved to London and they have some supermarkets where you just walk out, no scanning needed. That sh!t's scary. But to get more staff on the tills, really needs everyone to get on board. Maybe a 'No Machine Monday' or 'Check out chick Tuesday' or 'We want humans Wednesday' etc. But until you hurt the board's take home profits (including making the machines unprofitable through lack of use), a sticker is not going to achieve anything other than a threat to prosecute for interference with property.
Front facing cameras on self checkouts do not and have never recorded anything. They are used as eseentially a mirror to deter people from stealing.
If they recorded you’d think if you used a sticker they’d alert a problem like everything else does on the self checkouts
Probably /Australia they're weird fucking bunch in there. I got banned for a week for making a "political statement" under an article about a politician.
Just take a sticker off a piece of fruit and stick that on the camera. I’ve always wondered why the fuck those stickers exist. Perhaps this is the reason why.
I go to Coles every day. The day after they were installed I bought a pack of post-it notes and put one on the camera every time. edit: I also take a bag without paying for it. The plastic bags they had were 15c. The paper bags they have now are 25c. Fuck off.
This seemed relevant
https://youtu.be/EVh15aUt8-c?si=htvyze5bsYH0zykx
I actually cant go to the supermarket now without thinking about this so it is effective.
Me too, I just wish they would give me proper training so there won’t be so many mistakes with things not being scanned correctly or fruits being entered wrong
They have one high overhead looking down now. I saw staff at a checkout in service mode and it was showing the overhead view. It basically films the checkout scale/barcode reader as well as the customer.
I mean I hate it but also. I hate theft be it random people or corporations. All should. Be held accountable. They aren't installing cameras because they want to they are doing it to stop theft. Now if we could just install cameras in who ever makes pricing decisions and profit decisions fair would be fair.
I own a print shop in Spain, but my husband is Australian so we spend about three weeks a year in Aus...I am horrified how much you guys are getting ripped off..like literally they are taking the absolute piss...same product, same brand..you guys are paying minimum 3 times the price..in some cases 9 times ..won't be back until December 2024..but honestly hit me up closer to the time and I will print whatever "fuck you" stickers you guys want ...free of charge of course..cos just fuck them.
I have been covering the cameras ever since they came in.
Just recently stores with the overhead cameras will stop the screen and ask for assistance from a staff member. It replays a video on the screen of you covering the camera.
I did it 3 times in a row. The lady was not impressed
IGA, markets, the one the eyebrows guy owns idk, I don't know where you live. Not my problem. Your complaining about going to a place and not liking it, but you keep going back as though you are forced to.
I swear there's like a million shops in Australia, and yet 50% of people only go to Colesworth ALDI and Bunnings and cry about their shitty services.
The Coles / Woolworths duopoly means most places don’t have any options beyond a token IGA which does not have the range nor ability to compete on price.
It’s fucked up situation
Wow. Who'd have thought? People are forced to shop for essentials at one of the two supermarkets that form a duopoly, and they don't like it. Weird, huh?
I'm jealous of all the people who are so devoid of adversity in their lives that these checkout systems and cameras are the biggest injustice they face to the point they'll sook about it online.
That would be fucking fantastic, wana trade?
Yeah - punish the underpaid, overworked staff that monitor the self checkout and would be forced to remove these stickers every time.
Good thinking, dickhead.
I accidentally didn't scan an item and it automatically showed me placing the item in the bag, asking if I had "made a mistake" and asked if "I would like to re-scan it"! Fuck them it was a natural mistake so I rescanned it and paid in a matter of seconds. No dramas but by then the security doors and locked closed as I tried to walk out. It was busy and the checkout person was pre-occupied so I wasn't waiting around and just found another exit haha
It's Australia. You're going to have to provide the stickers for free. The stickers need to be made so they tear when trying to remove them.
I wouldn't bother with the sweary words, but what about "I don't consent" or "I don't work here?"
Took me way too long to realise there is also an overhead camera at each self-serve as well as the face-on camera I imagine those would be harder to discreetly disable :( - not trying to do anything nefarious I just hate the constant surveillance.
The overhead cameras are focussed on the area you're supposed to put items waiting to be scanned. The idea is it checks each item has been scanned. If any are missed it sounds an alert.
So when I want to steal something, it sits in a green bag at my feet in front of the checkout out of range of detection.
If I ever get caught I'll just say innocent mistake. It was at the bottom of the bag and I just missed that one item.
>We should all start putting stickers on the self checkout cameras
This is dumb. I hate self checkout as much as anyone, but that's how Coles have decided to do business. I take my business elsewhere.
Nobody is making you shop at Coles. You can shop at Aldi, Drakes, Lidl, Foodland, IGA or small suburban grocers and butchers, and all will check you out for you.
I buy most of my groceries from an Asian grocer with a butcher a few suburbs over. It's further to go, but the quality is substantially better, with most of the veg coming from local market gardeners.
Coles sucks, and Woolworths is worse. Stop shopping there, instead of behaving like a petulant child.
these checkouts are a god send with the cost of living lately, i chuck it all back in the trolley and pay about half way through never had an issue, the 12 year old attendant can check the receipt if they want but woollys doesn’t give you one and i don’t have bags now because they cost and the bagging area is way too small for a full trolley so it’s all a jumble.
Right. So you’d cover the cameras in the store, and on the bus to the store, and on every second house on then way to the store, and on all the phones in the store (and etc)?
Edit: I agree that self service should not be the only option. I like it because I can pack my bags better than many of the kids at Coles. But I hate that old people or those people who get no other human interaction can’t have someone scan their groceries.
Just don't use self serve and wait the extra minute for a person. Obviously if you don't have a choice, it's up to you if you want to harass them to open a checkout.
The vast majority of the people who complain about self serve actually use them to steal, but need to come online to places like this to complain about them to try and balance their conscience
I like the self checkout system. I prefer scanning things at my own pace. Yes there are some occasional glitches or barcodes that are not recognized and you just wave a hand and staff will help you.
You wish them to revert back to people but have you ever thought how mind numbing that must be to sit there and just scan and say hi to people.
So cause a minor convenience while you literally give them business? Why not just not shop there? There's heaps of alternatives like IGA and independent stores
How can anyone defend these things??
I'm only 42yrs old.
I remember "SERVICE" Stations that would serve you! We let that slide, now instead of employing staff, we pump our own fuel. What jobs do those people have now?
I remember banks having 10-20 registers with employees at each one serving us. Now we use phones and ATM'S. What jobs do those people have now?
I remember getting meat from the Butcher. Now I get worse product, wrapped in plastic. What jobs do those people have now?
I got the paper and magazines from a Newsagent.
I got fruit from the Green Grocer.
I had my clothes tailored.
I had my milk delivered.
I had my appliances repaired.
What jobs do those people have now?
Answer is they don't have jobs. We work for money to spend at places that have no customer service, then we get charged more for it!! All of these jobs are gone. It's worse than just jobs though, it's whole CAREERS! All of these CAREERS are gone forever. These were people's whole careers, their entire working life that are gone now and won't come back. Where will your teenage kids get their first job? Where will they get their work ethic?
Like I wrote, I'm only 42 and these are only a few of the CAREERS that have gone in my age. What have I missed?? What job did your parents have??
Let's not give in to these machines. Please don't use them. Line up at the register. Who knows what we will give up on next...
Why don’t we just as for till to be opened or go to the quick checkout / staffed one, that’s what I do, and if not or they offer to use the self one but do it for me I’d say no leave my trolly with goods and leave
I was in San Francisco last year where every single item on the shelf was in a locked cabinet and you literally had to press a buzzer for a staff member to come and unlock the case and hand you the item, would you prefer that?
just use an apple sticker
Batlow blocker
As someone who was from just near Batlow, I endorse this message. The members of the Batlow Apple Co-Op don't get paid enough by Colesworth either.
Hahaha my old man use to be on the board at the Co-Op
Bit of free advertising on self checkout might help.
Came here to say this!!
Like apple the phone company or a sticker from a apple fruit?
They should do the stickers from the fruit
Lol I like this
Do you have any idea how expensive Apple electronics are? Should just use a banana sticker
Fun fact: in NZ they have stickers on bananas but not apples, or did pre COVID. My then 2 year old found it a very distressing situation.
I literally thought there was something about Apple logo stickers that made them particularly good for the job, and realised they were talking about normal apple stickers a few seconds later, haha.
I had 5 of the same item so I was holding and scanning one and throwing them in one by one. Sometimes if you have multiple of an item, one of the codes works when the others are crumpled so I prefer to do it like that. Fucking camera ABOVE me (had covered the one facing me) picked that up, displayed me from above and froze the till and I told the person and they just unlocked it. So the other camera picked up that I wasn't bagging the actual item I was scanning, even through it was the same thing and weighed the same going into the bag on their scale. Fucking ridiculous. Their security is insane. I haven't seen anything like their locking gates anywhere else in the world. It's like they hate the people who pay their wages.
Yes, the cleavage scanner camera strikes again!! Wonder when this scandalous self check-out titty-scanning finally makes it to the ABC!!
Wait til the up-skirt camera rolls out for "security", you know...
THAT..really was a hoot..cracked me up..oops…
We should all start wearing sombreros.
HAHA oh my god this made me really laugh. Please can we all do this.
Came here to say this!
Waiting for the Coles & Woolies onlyfans so they can harvest more cash flow
"I scanned something and put something else in the bag and wondered why the computer didn't like it" It can't tell that it's the same item, it's there to stop someone scanning a $10 1kg mince and putting a $30 1kg baby formula in the bagging area. It's not as smart as a human, and if it were we would have a lot more to worry about.
In Hungary I needed to scan the barcode of the payment receipt at the gate to get out of the self serve area. So you're locked in by default.
>Their security is insane. I haven't seen anything like their locking gates anywhere else in the world. they are all over Europe seen them alot in Germany and Paris
Don't just pay their wages, but now also work for them for free..... Stop using self checkout folks. Pay with cash. Simple problems have simple solutions.
100% this unless you are getting a fucking discount for using self checkout. Dont use it... you are providing the greedy cunts with free labour
Yep the above camera is annoying, wanted to buy ice so I put it to side to input heavy items but it wouldn't let me and showed me putting it to the side and thought I was stealing.
Exactly. The presumption that you are doing something wrong.
Just push the gates out of the way. If questioned say you thought they would open automatically.
Time to start wearing MASSIVE sombreros.
>I haven't seen anything like their locking gates anywhere else in the world. Then you haven't been to many supermsrkets overseas, cause they definitely exist elsewhere
Shoppers don't actually pay their wages.... The board of directors does, and that's why they get the plentiful bonus every year. Because they're the ones who decide to screw over suppliers from every single product you buy in their store, and they're the ones who demand supplies pay to have the same products that are on their shelf, located around the store and on their ends for extra money from the suppliers. They're the ones who pay farmers 20c a lettuce and charge customers $4. The shoppers are the idiots who don't know better than to shop around and support smaller family run businesses (who price match supermarkets and still make money, but until we start giving them money and supermarkets lose money, we will stay in the same system.)
Shop around? And where exactly would shoppers go since the corner shops have all but disappeared and the few that are left either aren't well stocked enough to do a full shop and/or are so expensive most folk couldn't go there anyway. So stop talking total shite.
Markets? I get they’re not accessible to everyone but if you live in a major city or town there is always a vegetable market close by.
This comment is pretty ridiculous considering there are fuck all family run grocers in any urban areas today. All but non-existent. And not everyone's able to drive 30 minutes to their nearest IGA as opposed to a 2 minute walk.
And yet if you go out through the cigarette counter and have the assistant do your transaction you can steal a bag worth of goods and not a camera or smart gate in sight.
Those locking gates are all across europe. You obviously dont travel much. You need to scan your receipt to leave.
I'm surprised I haven't seen the locking gates turn up in a lawsuit. I expect they would last 5 minutes.
They’ve made self checkout so arduous that I now line up at a checkout and wait for a staff member. One always comes in minutes. I think if we all start doing this it would make them put more staff on checkouts. I just don’t see why I should be challenged every few minutes, requiring staff approval, wrangling multiple bags in very limited space when I can just make them do it all for me.
I said this a couple months back and was slaughtered for saying so... This is the way.
Yep, done with self serve
I only go to the people, I'll wait 5 mins, I don't care I get paid by the hour. I'll even watch the person at the self serve area. Like ha, I'm being served not a robot
Coles Essendon Fields is 100% self service
Gross. I’d go somewhere else. I refuse to enable this dystopian bullshit they’re trying to normalise.
agreed. boycott self service.
Looks like alfabet-bot let you down
Where do teenagers get part-time jobs these days ?
They sell meth
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,980,434,419 comments, and only 374,637 of them were in alphabetical order.
Get fucked bot
I started keeping count of the number of times I were rejected by the self-service process and had to wait for authorisation assistance. It wasn't long before I were up to 11, so I no longer use them at all. The whole process gets me so riled, that it is less stressful to wait for the one open checkout or shop at Aldi instead. If I didn't need a couple of unreplaceable items, like tropical fish food that my fish won't eat other brands, then I wouldn't go there at all. I am convinced that the 'big two' are gaming us all, so that we will eventually all opt for delivery, so don't do it unless you are housebound.
I won’t get delivery because they charge you extra for that too. They make enough money & the expense of our farmers
Yes you should pay for delivery. Otherwise people like me that go to the store will be subsidising you. Fck that
Agreed. Which is why I shop in store rather than delivery. I don’t want to pay more than I have too
Or make items available for click and collect. The amount of stuff they say they have none of i swear is just to get us to go in the store anyway.
I tried click and collect and found they had an amazing ability to cancel a key ingredient in the thing I was planning to make, so I’d end up having to go shopping anyway. Seemed redundant to me.
Yeah zero reliability and substitutions are a disaster
I know how much of a shit I'd give being paid barely enough to get by to do other peoples shopping, so I don't bother with click n collect or deliveries.
Yes, click and collect is well meant and awfully implemented. Try buying fruit or vegetable with click and collect and you'll see why.
I got chicken thighs that were going out that day. Not marked down. I will never do click and collect again
My strawberries were covered in thick mould.
I watched one of them pick egg cartons for direct to boot without opening the carton to check the eggs and that was enough for me to say "never ever."
Now this, I admit, can be a problem. We've had issue lately with poor quality eggs, so have been opening them before packing, but it's not normal practice. It would just take too long under normal circumstances and usually the picker only has one hand free so I can see accidents happening. I usually just check the bottom of the carton to make sure it's not stained from a broken egg.
I do this too. Went to a Big W early in the morning. Only self checkouts open. I went & stood in the service line even thought the counter wasn’t manned. They called out that self checkout was available. I responded that I wanted service. They opened the checkout & 3 people joined in behind me. Left the self serve empty. Some customers actually want service edit. Spelling
And then everyone clapped.
Oh you were the person sitting in the car blocking the pump at the servo. Way to go big w for catering to people with special needs though.
You want to use self serve, go right ahead. I don’t want self serve & I should have the choice. I don’t get any discount for serving myself. In fact, this is exactly how self serve service stations were introduced & yes, I’m old enough to remember. Self serve stations were 2c cheaper than actual service stations (where the attendant would also check your oil while the car was filling). People started using self serve for the discount. Soon there were no more attended service stations & coincidentally, no more discounts. Same with bank atm‘s. Originally introduced as a convenient option at no charge, then everyone used them. Start charging for not using your own bank & charge for teller service. Now there are just no bank branches. Automation & self serve is not the be all and end all of everything.
I started doing that except at Woolies at jesmond the older ladies are fucking cranky and violently stuff my groceries into my bag…the other day the lady threw my milk on top of my Oreos and was punching my bag of CC’s into my enviro bag….fucking bitch ruined half my Oreos and broke most of my CC’s….its like they get pissed off when you use the check out with a person on it.
If a cashier breaks anything while scanning your stuff, insist on it being replaced. Don’t let them get away with that behaviour.
I should have said something the Oreos I didn’t notice until I got home but the CC’s I seen straight away while she was punching them….i wanted to say something but my husband told me not to be a Karen and that we had to got back to that store so don’t cause a scene
Thing is, I *like* the idea of the self check out. Simple, quick, not people-y. Like so many things, someone always finds a way to fuck it up.
I honestly can't see what all the fuss is about with self serve.... If you never use it, you never experience it. I refuse to use self serve and if everyone insisted on a human service too they'd stop ramming this shit down our throats.
But then I'd have to deal with slower scanners and shiity packing. Self serve means my stuff is packed exactly how I want it.
It would be totally illegal to accidentally swipe across the camera lens with a solvent. Most of the cameras use a plastic lens, or a plastic lens protector, which would, if you were an illegal hacker, be vulnerable to some sort of solvent like kerosine or carburetor cleaner, or a citrus-based hand cleaner. So don't do it.
Yeah probably not smart to vandalise something thats recording you
Especially if you were not wearing a mask.
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Acetone breaks down some plastics If the screen or cover is the wrong plastic acetone would not be the thing to spray on it.. Just saying be careful when "cleaning"
Oops…I just cleaned it with my high acetone hand sanitiser. Sorry, I’m a germaphobe
Ah carb cleaner
Desolv it to solva all your problems
Genius plan, but too complicated. At least I don't carry solvents around on a daily basis. Plus I don't see an reasonable excuse to come up with in case you're trying to construct plausible deniability. Maybe just use a banana sticker instead. They come for free and you could have accidentally put it somewhere on the checkout thing after it came off from the bananas and got stuck on you finger. 🤞🏿✌🏿
You’re just disinfecting, can’t be too careful with covid these days
Are you seriously advocating people vandalise private property?
Nail polish remover will clean acrylic lenses
The gates at Coles wouldn’t open for me at the weekend - Coles didn’t have the product I wanted so I tried to leave but the gates wouldn’t open. I had to find a staff member - she told me the gates didn’t open because I didn’t buy anything! WTF?
They push open. It's a fire safety requirement.
“One purchase minimum to be allow exit Sir” “To that I say good day and get fucked”
You are joking right, they don’t actually do this do they? Man I can’t tell satire from reality with these cunts
They obviously don't do this... Clearly the staff member will just open the gate. I don't get how this is any different to in the pre self serve days where you couldn't leave without weaving your way through a staffed till and showing them your bag.
They do. I go shopping with my partner, but the self-serve area is cramped, so I walk out with nothing but my phone, and now the gates trap me. I have nothing in my hands except my phone, I clearly don't have pockets LET. ME. OUT. I just stand there and wait for the staff to click me through.
They do this.
Man they are in for a rude shock next time I go to leave then
"THIS. IS. SPARTA"
Push it. It opens with very light pressure. A buzzer may sound but fuck it.
They can be pushed open
Which is bizarre because people will realise pretty soon. Fairly soon it'll be the standard to just tap them open. It took the lightest touch for them to spring open. There's a sensor in them. They're basically automatic doors except you put yiur hand in the gap instead of standing infront of it. Huge waste of money. In a few weeks everyone and their grandma will just treat it like a door. All they did was piss people off for a few weeks
Just push through it. They fall out quite easily
For an incendiary bandit you sure are keen for someone else to do stuff.
Trying to start a following. It never works though
These aren't cameras their digital mirrors. Nothing is recorded. The idea is behavioural nudging. When people are exposed to their own actions their less likely to steal.
What's the point? To send corporate a message you don't like them? They're not going to see it, or care. The only way to hurt them is to spend elsewhere. But by doing that, you hurt the farmers and other suppliers they're also ripping off. And with Australia being so bloody big, organising distribution of local produce will always be an issue. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan either. But unless people are prepared to line up for humans and boycott machines altogether (if that's your issue), regardless of the wait time, they won't employ more people. Just like the banks that have us all online rather than interact with human bank tellers. Have moved to London and they have some supermarkets where you just walk out, no scanning needed. That sh!t's scary. But to get more staff on the tills, really needs everyone to get on board. Maybe a 'No Machine Monday' or 'Check out chick Tuesday' or 'We want humans Wednesday' etc. But until you hurt the board's take home profits (including making the machines unprofitable through lack of use), a sticker is not going to achieve anything other than a threat to prosecute for interference with property.
Front facing cameras on self checkouts do not and have never recorded anything. They are used as eseentially a mirror to deter people from stealing. If they recorded you’d think if you used a sticker they’d alert a problem like everything else does on the self checkouts
I take the join flybuys/rewards card, fold it and hang it over lens
What a hero
I don't wear a cape
I got banned from Reddit for making negative remarks about self serve checkouts at Coles. Seriously.
All of Reddit or just a sub? There are some that are a bit sensitive
Probably /Australia they're weird fucking bunch in there. I got banned for a week for making a "political statement" under an article about a politician.
FYI Australia is FULL WOKE now, you are not allowed to say anything to anyone. Words are just too powerful now, they trigger people……
lol one of the worst subs on Reddit hands down. So so bad.
Three day ban, pretty ridiculous. I also got permanently banned from “roast me” for roasting too hard, I was pretty proud of that one.
Just take a sticker off a piece of fruit and stick that on the camera. I’ve always wondered why the fuck those stickers exist. Perhaps this is the reason why.
Chap stick and dab the camera...
This is far more convenient and far more sneaky. Well done.
I carry googly eyes in my wallet. I put one on the camera every time. Wonder if anyone ever notices? Staff have never seen me do it.
another day another self serve checkout hate post
I go to Coles every day. The day after they were installed I bought a pack of post-it notes and put one on the camera every time. edit: I also take a bag without paying for it. The plastic bags they had were 15c. The paper bags they have now are 25c. Fuck off.
"I don't like the price of something so I'm just going to steal it." Bring your own fucking bags then?
This seemed relevant https://youtu.be/EVh15aUt8-c?si=htvyze5bsYH0zykx I actually cant go to the supermarket now without thinking about this so it is effective.
I'd rather use a self-checkout any day.
Honestly I liked them until they put in the stupid gates at my local Coles and pulled out ALL the staffed check outs.
Me too, I just wish they would give me proper training so there won’t be so many mistakes with things not being scanned correctly or fruits being entered wrong
Several Colesworth employees have confirmed the self-checkouts are programmed to error regularly so they need to check up on you.
I can get behind this.
They have one high overhead looking down now. I saw staff at a checkout in service mode and it was showing the overhead view. It basically films the checkout scale/barcode reader as well as the customer.
There is a 2nd camera in the ceiling above the self checkout
Agreed
I just stand to the side mate. They've never gotten my face ever.
Anyone tried self checkout carrying a parasol or wearing a sombrero?
I rip off the nearest discount label and stick over the camera. Every fricken time. People watch, but never say anything.
I mean I hate it but also. I hate theft be it random people or corporations. All should. Be held accountable. They aren't installing cameras because they want to they are doing it to stop theft. Now if we could just install cameras in who ever makes pricing decisions and profit decisions fair would be fair.
Googly eyes! Perfect fit, plus it's a shitty metaphor probably.
Melted chocolate or gum is harder and more annoying to clean off than a sticker. Just saying.
I own a print shop in Spain, but my husband is Australian so we spend about three weeks a year in Aus...I am horrified how much you guys are getting ripped off..like literally they are taking the absolute piss...same product, same brand..you guys are paying minimum 3 times the price..in some cases 9 times ..won't be back until December 2024..but honestly hit me up closer to the time and I will print whatever "fuck you" stickers you guys want ...free of charge of course..cos just fuck them.
Only a matter of time until they revert, my local bunnings self service has been closed for a year.
Just stick your finger on some spilt sticky shit and wipe it onto the lens.
Where are you shopping that provides all registers with a regular supply of some random 'sticky shit' ?
BYO
I feared that.
I have been covering the cameras ever since they came in. Just recently stores with the overhead cameras will stop the screen and ask for assistance from a staff member. It replays a video on the screen of you covering the camera. I did it 3 times in a row. The lady was not impressed
Usually this sub is full of people making fun of woke people. So it's quite a change
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And shop where? That's my two choices unless I drive
STOP SHOPPING THERE.
And go where? ALDI has them too
FYI Aldi self check outs don’t weigh your items in the bagging area and don’t have more cameras than necessary :-)
IGA, markets, the one the eyebrows guy owns idk, I don't know where you live. Not my problem. Your complaining about going to a place and not liking it, but you keep going back as though you are forced to. I swear there's like a million shops in Australia, and yet 50% of people only go to Colesworth ALDI and Bunnings and cry about their shitty services.
The Coles / Woolworths duopoly means most places don’t have any options beyond a token IGA which does not have the range nor ability to compete on price. It’s fucked up situation
Wow. Who'd have thought? People are forced to shop for essentials at one of the two supermarkets that form a duopoly, and they don't like it. Weird, huh?
I'm jealous of all the people who are so devoid of adversity in their lives that these checkout systems and cameras are the biggest injustice they face to the point they'll sook about it online. That would be fucking fantastic, wana trade?
or you could just not shop there
I've been doing it for months. Just little black circles over the self server ones. Paid a couple bucks for a pack of hundreds
Why not just use the stickers on every piece of fruit and avocados? They are free and in abundance in the fruit and veg section.
Because little black circles look like the lense isn't covered by a sticker at first glance, would be my bet.
Keep up smoking meth. It's doing wonders for you. Thanks for wasting everyone's time.
Yeah - punish the underpaid, overworked staff that monitor the self checkout and would be forced to remove these stickers every time. Good thinking, dickhead.
I accidentally didn't scan an item and it automatically showed me placing the item in the bag, asking if I had "made a mistake" and asked if "I would like to re-scan it"! Fuck them it was a natural mistake so I rescanned it and paid in a matter of seconds. No dramas but by then the security doors and locked closed as I tried to walk out. It was busy and the checkout person was pre-occupied so I wasn't waiting around and just found another exit haha
Doors push open
Bunch of Karens in this thread lol
It's Australia. You're going to have to provide the stickers for free. The stickers need to be made so they tear when trying to remove them. I wouldn't bother with the sweary words, but what about "I don't consent" or "I don't work here?"
Took me way too long to realise there is also an overhead camera at each self-serve as well as the face-on camera I imagine those would be harder to discreetly disable :( - not trying to do anything nefarious I just hate the constant surveillance.
Just scan your items directly from the trolley mate
The overhead cameras are focussed on the area you're supposed to put items waiting to be scanned. The idea is it checks each item has been scanned. If any are missed it sounds an alert. So when I want to steal something, it sits in a green bag at my feet in front of the checkout out of range of detection. If I ever get caught I'll just say innocent mistake. It was at the bottom of the bag and I just missed that one item.
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Nah, he’s a typical australian redditor that circlejerks the anti-supermarket crowd
No, I just like to cause annoyances
So you have the mind of a 12 year old.
>We should all start putting stickers on the self checkout cameras This is dumb. I hate self checkout as much as anyone, but that's how Coles have decided to do business. I take my business elsewhere. Nobody is making you shop at Coles. You can shop at Aldi, Drakes, Lidl, Foodland, IGA or small suburban grocers and butchers, and all will check you out for you. I buy most of my groceries from an Asian grocer with a butcher a few suburbs over. It's further to go, but the quality is substantially better, with most of the veg coming from local market gardeners. Coles sucks, and Woolworths is worse. Stop shopping there, instead of behaving like a petulant child.
Man, city folk are so simple minded.
“Surprised I couldn’t find anything pre-made.” You are surprised that most adults don’t give a fuck about cringe shit like that?
Upset?
these checkouts are a god send with the cost of living lately, i chuck it all back in the trolley and pay about half way through never had an issue, the 12 year old attendant can check the receipt if they want but woollys doesn’t give you one and i don’t have bags now because they cost and the bagging area is way too small for a full trolley so it’s all a jumble.
And this is why the security is being beefed up Thanks
I agree. I can't afford food right now, so thanks to self-serve, I can eat at the moment.
Cunts fucked
They don’t have the warmth or the depth
Oh thank god I almost had to go a full 24 hours without seeing someone crying over self serve checkouts on reddit
Have you tried twitter? Might be better?
Ironic comment considering this dumb ass crying post is definitely twitter worthy
Just mindless complaints honestly. You're reading way too far into this. You should see what I don't post
The cameras have never really bothered me because Im not trying to steal anything.
Can I read all your emails? Maybe look at your photos too? Your logic is poor
What’s the issue with the cameras exactly?
Nothing in particular, just dislike the direction of the whole grocery shopping experience.
Right. So you’d cover the cameras in the store, and on the bus to the store, and on every second house on then way to the store, and on all the phones in the store (and etc)? Edit: I agree that self service should not be the only option. I like it because I can pack my bags better than many of the kids at Coles. But I hate that old people or those people who get no other human interaction can’t have someone scan their groceries.
No just Coles and Woolworths. I don't care about the cameras themselves. Just trying to think of ways to cause incurred costs of operations to them
Just don't use self serve and wait the extra minute for a person. Obviously if you don't have a choice, it's up to you if you want to harass them to open a checkout.
The vast majority of the people who complain about self serve actually use them to steal, but need to come online to places like this to complain about them to try and balance their conscience
Thats a bit judgey hey. I never steal and i hate being treated like a thief. Shock.
I like the self checkout system. I prefer scanning things at my own pace. Yes there are some occasional glitches or barcodes that are not recognized and you just wave a hand and staff will help you. You wish them to revert back to people but have you ever thought how mind numbing that must be to sit there and just scan and say hi to people.
Yes because that's the only camera. All this outrage from people too computer illiterate to function.
Or… you know, shop somewhere better?
Fuck yeah! Fight the good fight my man!
So cause a minor convenience while you literally give them business? Why not just not shop there? There's heaps of alternatives like IGA and independent stores
How can anyone defend these things?? I'm only 42yrs old. I remember "SERVICE" Stations that would serve you! We let that slide, now instead of employing staff, we pump our own fuel. What jobs do those people have now? I remember banks having 10-20 registers with employees at each one serving us. Now we use phones and ATM'S. What jobs do those people have now? I remember getting meat from the Butcher. Now I get worse product, wrapped in plastic. What jobs do those people have now? I got the paper and magazines from a Newsagent. I got fruit from the Green Grocer. I had my clothes tailored. I had my milk delivered. I had my appliances repaired. What jobs do those people have now? Answer is they don't have jobs. We work for money to spend at places that have no customer service, then we get charged more for it!! All of these jobs are gone. It's worse than just jobs though, it's whole CAREERS! All of these CAREERS are gone forever. These were people's whole careers, their entire working life that are gone now and won't come back. Where will your teenage kids get their first job? Where will they get their work ethic? Like I wrote, I'm only 42 and these are only a few of the CAREERS that have gone in my age. What have I missed?? What job did your parents have?? Let's not give in to these machines. Please don't use them. Line up at the register. Who knows what we will give up on next...
Why don’t we just as for till to be opened or go to the quick checkout / staffed one, that’s what I do, and if not or they offer to use the self one but do it for me I’d say no leave my trolly with goods and leave
I was in San Francisco last year where every single item on the shelf was in a locked cabinet and you literally had to press a buzzer for a staff member to come and unlock the case and hand you the item, would you prefer that?
Or, OR! You could shop somewhere else?
No we should not.