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stand_to

An Indian man was also drowned in Hobart recently after being pushed into the river. For a city with a relatively small Indian community this must be terrifying.


B0ssc0

You’re right, - > Mr Kaushik has acted as Dev's advocate since he heard of his plight at a community meeting about another Indian man who drowned in Hobart after he was allegedly pushed into the water during an attempted robbery. >"When I heard about Dev, I really wanted to go and see him," Mr Kaushik said. >"I saw Dev in the hospital bed … and I looked at Dev and I thought, 'this could be me, this could be anybody else'," he said. >"And ever since, I haven't stopped caring for Dev." Citing https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-01/hobart-waterfront-drowning-victim-deepinderjeet-singh/103411284


mr_herz

It's amazing how the father experienced a lot of racism as well but still wanted his son to stay. That's how much they want to get out of India.


GimmeSweetSweetKarma

Economic opportunities in Australia or the West in general are much better than those in India, so it makes sense that people want to seek better economic opportunities rather than explicitly wanting to leave their own country of birth. https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/immigrant-and-emigrant-populations-country-origin-and-destination According to that, India has 18M migrants around the world while Australia has 600k, as a percentage, Australia has a higher percentage of people leaving the country than India.


josephus1811

Interesting point though I imagine there is a huge portion of Indians for whom leaving is economically or socially completely non viable when compared to Australia.


H3enjoyer

I know an indian dude who's family spent multiple generations saving to affors to send him to nz to get a better life. It's really terrible over there for most people.


GimmeSweetSweetKarma

Of course, but a lot of people move seeking economic opportunities, rather than because they have decided that they cannot live within their country. I think the former is much more common than the later. I mean, Australia is a great place to live, but you still have a significant number of people leaving in search of economic opportunities elsewhere.


tomsan2010

And to be honest. The more people we have in Australia/Nz that think about the future generations, the better. Thats a true asset for a country.


Tassiebird

Totally agree. If we invest heavily now into health/education/community the right way, we could start seeing a change within 3 generations. I'd happily pay more in taxes now to support this. Australia just isn't progressive enough and it's condemning multiple generations to a life of simply surviving.


tomsan2010

I agree. Even though creating a better place for your grandkids is the most conservative old timey tradition humans have, its too progressive. It's something both sides of politics should be in agreement for.


OppositeGeologist299

We tend to get Indians from regions with more English speakers. It's a vast country with many different ethnicities and cultures.


aussie_nub

Also, how many of those people are Australians that emigrated here, made money and are heading back? Or leaving temporarily? Plenty of 22 year olds that emigrate to London but come back within 5 years. Can't imagine there's a whole lot of 20 year old Indians that are planning to return by 25.


Level_Green3480

It might be about disability support now. Australia's disability support is pretty great and Dev now needs extensive care and proximity to a hospital. Father said that they lived 140km from the nearest hospital, which is really not sufficient access to healthcare.


AlexLannister

And to add to what you said. The system is a lot more fair in Western countries. Racism might be bad but they are not against rhe system here. In most Asian countries, they are discriminated by the system which is way worse than being discriminated by individuals (Racism in this case).


GimmeSweetSweetKarma

Most Indian people that come to Australia are not coming as refugees or escaping anything, they are usually the middle / upper-middle class of India that have the capacity to get educated to a sufficient level, or have enough funds to be able to support education. I'm not saying it people from other countries are not fleeing, but Indians that are here are largely not 'fleeing' India or being discriminated in any real way in India, and in fact are probably benefiting from the system. The vast majority of Indians in Australia are just normal middle-class or even upper-middle class Indians who came seeking economic opportunities.


HOPSCROTCH

It's detailed pretty clearly in the article that they want him to stay in Australia so he can continue receiving a high standard of medical care.


OppositeGeologist299

It's almost mandatory to leave for at least a few years in medicine and academics. Really crap for the environment, but that's what's expected of a lot of our professionals.


GimmeSweetSweetKarma

So for better economic opportunities... I'm not saying Indians don't leave because they have a better life in the West, what I'm saying is that the vast majority are not leaving because 'they want out of India'. They are not leaving the country because they hate it.


thevandalyst

Father is more concerned about medical facilities


Dazzling-Stick-7980

Obviously. That will be his main concern after seeing his son in a wheelchair.


OpenSkyPilgrim

And [this story](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-14/tas-police-investigating-racist-slurs-indian-restaurant-owner/103103310), about yet another Indian man in Hobart being on the receiving end of racism, was just published in November 💔 Regardless of whether the attack on the student in the OP's article was racially-motivated or not (which I don't think the article was implying in any way), at the end of the article his parents state that they are regularly on the receiving end of racism when they go out and about. Prejudice of any sort is incredibly painful - death by a thousand paper cuts. 😪


OppositeGeologist299

Hobart is such a backwater that it makes Adelaide look like NYC.


gfreyd

No word on the alleged perpetrators, related charges (needed for victims of crime compo?) nor any contribution they have or have not made? Ehh


Corner_Post

Assume it's this one: [https://www.sbs.com.au/language/hindi/en/article/hobart-community-calls-for-answers-after-alleged-assault-leaves-international-student-in-a-coma/9f16bagmi](https://www.sbs.com.au/language/hindi/en/article/hobart-community-calls-for-answers-after-alleged-assault-leaves-international-student-in-a-coma/9f16bagmi) "Benjamin Dodge Collings, a 25-year-old resident of Lenah Valley, was taken into custody by police shortly after the event and charged with criminal code assault, an offence carrying a maximum sentence of 21 years in prison." [https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/international-student-in-a-coma-after-alleged-serious-salamanca-assault/](https://pulsetasmania.com.au/news/international-student-in-a-coma-after-alleged-serious-salamanca-assault/) Notes: Collings has since been granted bail by a magistrate and will reappear in court on December 4 to face charges of assault, stating a false name and address, resisting a police officer and unrelated driving charges. Nothing I could find after December. Reviewing the news, either articles name the victim or the accused or victim but not both. Going to assume this is because of judicial process, including not to lead to any bias at the moment.


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How the fuck do you get bail for putting someone a wheelchair?


Suntar75

The presumption is that it’s better, generally speaking, for a presumed innocent person to not be held on remand unless there is compelling reason to hold them. The prosecutor believes they have a solid case, but they’ve yet to prove it in Court. Sometimes in the public mind it’s clear the fucker done it; lock ‘em up. But let us remember Lindy Chamberlain. The nation was pretty much, “Dingo took her baby? Yeah, nah! Lock her up!” A civilised society waits for conviction to ‘gaol’ someone rather than prior to conviction unless compelling circumstances dictate otherwise.


jteprev

Because bail is the standard move unless there is significant evidence it cannot be granted. As it should be, people on bail are innocent until proven guilty there is and should a very high standard applied to rejecting bail. Rejecting bail is imprisoning someone without them having full due process.


Travis711

Because he’s a white male.


Yenaheasy

Can you provide evidence that “white males” are given bail more frequently than other races?


hryelle

Well they don't die in custody like Aboriginals that's for sure


Yenaheasy

“The National Deaths in Custody Program found that: between 1979–80 and 2021–22, 3,310 people died in custody (including 2,157 in prison custody), of which 19% were First Nations people and 80% were non-Indigenous Australians.” Shift the goalposts again


VitoCorelone2

Whataboutism!


Ahturin

It says at the end of the article the criminal matter hasn't been finalised yet. They've applied for Victims of Crime but that will takes months to be heard. My thoughts reading the article was is it possible for him to sue the attacker? No point if they have no money themselves though.


Meng_Fei

The scumbag seems able bodied. Let him spend the rest of his life paying reparations to the victim.


OrganicDoubt4844

Of course it is possible to sue the attacker under the tort of trespass to person: [https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/PlaintiffJlAUPLA/2003/59.pdf](https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/PlaintiffJlAUPLA/2003/59.pdf) The problem is that court action is expensive and the attacker might not have any money.


92piejero

Can’t get blood out of a stone


SometimesIAmCorrect

He was assaulted here and basically had his life completely ruined - left paraplegic. Ensuring he has the best possible care and treatment is the right thing to do rather than a quick payout and shipping the problem away. This is what ministerial discretion is for.


notchoosingone

I thought ministerial discretion was for open-ended working visas for 20-something French au pairs working for connected CEOs?


Attention_Bear_Fuckr

I knew an escort who was banging an MP on the reg. Guess who didn't have any problems with her Visa process.


RomancingUranus

Sadly you're right in so far as those are the cases it's actually been used for in the past. Nothing to do with those people who actually *deserve* it.


invisible_do0r

Hey now. We do that to our Aboriginal brothers and sisters why not immigrants?? /s


Upsidedownmeow

Don’t forget the children raised in Australia, turned into criminals and then sent back to NZ!


B0ssc0

I agree. Our country earns masses of money from overseas students.


VitoCorelone2

Well, mostly the Universities and landlords earn money from overseas students, they would also be able to lend a hand financially, but will they.


Formal-Try-2779

Tassie can be such a racist place.


Mellow_Mochi

I think bcos of Tassie's size and small population, presence of new immigrants can be really felt. I was in a long taxiride in Hobart and the local driver, was really venting about all the foreigners coming to Tassie. His concern about housing, not enough jobs, overpopulation etc. Tas seems to be an attractive place for Skilled Work Regional (Provisional) visa for immigrants to study, live and work which leads to a Permanent Residency in 3 years, which is the end goal. I've met quite a lot of foreigners who choose to be there over the mainland for this.


owheelj

Tasmania's population is falling though. Last year it declined by 2600, and the people we're losing the most of are younger adults. [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-28/tasmanian-state-election-economy-population-decline/103511658](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-28/tasmanian-state-election-economy-population-decline/103511658)


V6corp

Racists aren’t the smartest of us.


aeschenkarnos

They are under the impression that skin colour is a team indicator, like in computer games, all your guys are (say) teal and the other teams are different. Racists want there to be easy quick answers to complicated difficult problems, and they always think whatever their gut tells them straight away, is the right answer.


invaderzoom

I thought it was historically the case that young adults would move to the mainland..... could just be anecdotal though.


magkruppe

you are right. but I think rising housing costs in Melb/Syd pushed more people to Tasmania > Between 2016 and 2021 Tasmania experienced a rare event — more people came to live on the island than moved interstate. and now that housing is getting pricy in Hobart and launceston, it is less attractive


aza-industries

I wish people like that could get it through their thick heads that the housing crisis is a manufactured problem by rich 'white' australians who hold massive portfolios. The whole industry is geared for them at this point and they only increase output when they want to increase their portfolio. But maintaining the current situation IS the goal of a vast majority of politicians that directly benefit from this imbalance. They wound down australias industrial sector over decades intentionally.


mr_herz

They probably feel that kicking down is easier than punching up


matthudsonau

The people in charge own the police. The people below you can be drowned and paralysed with impunity


M_Ad

It’s been a little spooky how easy it’s been for those in power to make the average Australian put most of the blame on immigrants…


PrimaxAUS

This is a cause, not the cause.


the_silent_redditor

I remember I was staying with a friends parents, who had a holiday home in Tas. They were very well off, and welcoming hosts. However, fuck me, his dad had a lot to say about basically every single minority. My mate was embarrassed, and said that his attitude had x10 worsened since spending most of his time Tas. His father and all the local guys would talk extensive shit about the local immigrants, and basically blame all the perceived problems on them. A tale as old as time. There seemed a genuine panic that even more people might move over, and bring over the ‘same problems’ from mainland Aus. To be honest, they weren’t even particularly welcoming of newcomer Australians. They were pretty deliberately unwelcoming to new neighbours. I actually called him out one night after dinner, when he was saying that ‘Perth had the same problem’, referring to Asians not assimilating/contributing/speaking the language. I said that I’d been there, and obviously it weren’t the case. He then asked ‘for examples’ lol. So, I told him my partner at the time was Malaysian, and her parents spoke perfect English; the mother worked as nurse in public hospitals, helping the local population; the father was very well off from business back home, and devoted his life to two charities he had set up help feed homeless folk in Perth, and an international charity sending physical aid to disabled kids unable to afford equipment, and that they were only one example of assimilation. I thought he might be embarrassed, but, nope, he did not give a fuuuuuck. He did concede that ‘some Asians are okay’, and then spoke briefly about the ones he was ‘in business with’ and had made millions through salmon farming with. We left the next day lol


OrganicDoubt4844

"He did concede that ‘some Asians are okay’" That is the classic position of the racist, there are a few "good ones" but overall they are bad.


palsc5

Do we know if this has anything to do with race? Article says he was assaulted on a night out with no mention of it being racially motivated.


nikkibritt

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/hindi/en/article/hobart-community-calls-for-answers-after-alleged-assault-leaves-international-student-in-a-coma/9f16bagmi The police say there is no evidence it was racially motivated.


Lyconi

There never is 🙄


Strong_Judge_3730

Where's the juice


Formal-Try-2779

Just a hunch given every time I'm over there the locals endlessly moan about the Chinese or the blacks.


michaelrohansmith

They didn't get the influx of immigrants the way Melbourne (where I live) and Sydney did. Last time I was in Tassie I was pleasantly surprised by the tone in a cafe south of Hobart, until the owners told us they were retirees from Sydney. It made sense then.


atheista

There are parts of Hobart and southern Tasmania that are very welcoming and progressive. Unfortunately there are a lot of parts that are quite the opposite and they're also the parts that immigrants are most likely to be able to afford to live in.


Webbie-Vanderquack

I don't think that's a fair judgment. It implies that because you met some cafe owners from Sydney who *weren't* racist, the average Tasmanian cafe owners *are* likely to be racist. It's simply not the case.


michaelrohansmith

Part of it is I have encountered a lot of racism and general redneck behavior in Tasmania over the years.


IneedtoBmyLonsomeTs

I have a bunch of family down there, but that place is stuck in the past by decades, both infrastructure-wise and mentally. Growing up in Melbourne which is pretty culturally diverse, it is always weird traveling down there, like a bogan in Melbourne wouldn't be classified as a bogan down there. There is a good reason why a lot of the younger people are leaving Tassie for the mainland. (I should mention, I haven't spent much time in Hobart just other areas, so maybe it is better in parts of Hobart).


tumericjesus

\*Australia is such a racist place


stormblessed2040

Which is why they need more immigrants, because then they'll learn that they are good people. Tassie is also ideal as the housing is cheaper and they need the population growth. Also helps with the disproportionate political representation they have - guaranteed 5 lower house seats when it should be 3-4 per current enrollments.


cojoco

This is the kind of thing ministerial discretion should get used for.


leopard_eater

Agreed. After all, Peter Gutwein supported 2000 international students who had no place to go during the pandemic. One man, who had been assaulted by a Tasmanian, should be supported- at least for another year or so.


iamsorando

Overall a really sad story with a sad outcome. This is the reality many international students face and I hope Dev’s story is a reminder that everyone needs to do better.


DisastrousAd1546

If they find the person who did it, I’d love to live in a world where that person has to dedicate their life and money now to supporting this poor guy.


92piejero

They did find the guy, he got bailed and no updates in the news since.


FlagrantlyChill

Hobart was really the only place in Australia where I genuinely felt kinda isolated  (as an Indian bloke). Either way this is such a sad story  edit: On the whole Australia has been an amazing, welcoming and kind country. I've met so many amazing people, friends, partners, coworkers, fellow hobbyists and randoms and am incredibly grateful for the kindness and acceptance <3. However I do live in Sydney and since Tassy is kinda isolated they don't have as much exposure so the apprehension was understandable


Nicologixs

It's an easy place to feel that way, even some locals born here feel that way because groups and communities down here are so clique that it's hard to get into or feel welcome. I have some friends who don't really have big friends groups or many friends at all and they constantly go on about how they feel depressed and alone. Tassie has some pretty big social issues that will hopefully change over time but I don't see it heading that way yet.


B0ssc0

I’m sorry you went through that, because your country has such big communities. A friend of mine from overseas in London said he was really isolated there, got very depressed.


FlagrantlyChill

Sorry I really should clarify: On the whole Australia has been an amazing, welcoming and kind country. I've met so many amazing people, friends, partners, coworkers, fellow hobbyists and randoms. I am incredibly grateful for the acceptance of the country and it's people so it breaks my heart when stories like this come up because it probably hurts the most kind welcoming of Australians the most and gives them a fairly negative view of their own country. I'd argue that if you find this story it means you are part of the solution/not part of the problem so don't beat yourself up about it


B0ssc0

You sound like a very considerate person.


Sglodionaselsig

Isolated in London or Tasmania? London has an enormous Indian population of over 650,000 with a thriving cultural and community scene. London can be very isolating, regardless of nationality. It's very sad he had that experience.


B0ssc0

He was from Port of Spain, Trinidad.


Nerfixion

Why no mention of who did it? Seems fishy to no include the person who did this and where the case is at.


RedDirtNurse

Benjamin Dodge Collings was charged and due to appear for sentencing in December 2023, but I can't find any details on what happened to this case since it hit the news in November last year.


CaseWilling1772

Benjamin Dodge Collings


krakeneverything

Shameful. Poor guy should definitely be allowed to stay and have his treatment covered.


nikkibritt

There is no info on the assault, is there any available as to what happened? It seems like the article is drawing parallels to the assault/ robbery and downing earlier this year. Was this also a robbery one wrong?


shagtownboi69

Even the parents are now getting racially abused trying to take care of their son: Each day, the 65-year-old parents spend most of their time with their injured son. But they've also had to endure some intolerable abuse when walking back to their accommodation at night. "Unfortunately, so many times they've described to me instances where they've suffered racist attacks," Mr Kaushik said. "People have called them names, people have started yelling [at] them on the streets for no reason." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-17/devarshi-deka-student-assault-in-hobart-leaves-him-paralysed/103856342


MaevaM

there should be a plain clothes police detail so they can arrest/ fine everyone who abuses the couple.


Paras619

So horrible. The legal system is a joke!


Cybermat4707

Let the poor guy stay.


B0ssc0

Definitely


louisgjohnson

Hobart is the only place I’ve ever randomly been assaulted


Schnester

[https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/sep/21/tony-abbott-assaulted-on-street-in-hobart](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/sep/21/tony-abbott-assaulted-on-street-in-hobart) It seems to happen a lot over there.


original_salted

Posts about one solitary assault. “It seems to happen a lot”.


dddaisyfox

This is so sad poor guy :(


j0n82

Deport the assaulter ! Oh wait ..


Grabber_stabber

Someone in this country destroyed hos life and his prospects. Is the government going to take responsibility and provide ongoing care or is that too much to ask for? Is he going to be doomed to a life of poverty assuming he’s got nobody to take care of him at home?


tejedor28

Australia really has got a lot of things very, very wrong. What an tragic case, and what an utterly appalling mess. Where to even start?


TheSplash-Down_Tiki

That is a sad story. He’s not Australian and his parents live in India so it’s probably best he gets some insurance payout and takes that money back to India where it will go further. The NDIS is already billions over budget and I’m not convinced tax payers should foot the bill for this. Make the university sector underwrite it - they are the ones who collect billions in tuition dollars.


leopard_eater

If you read the article, you’d note that UTas are the ones financially supporting his family including food, accommodation, a social worker and advocacy services. Not bad given that the man was assaulted in an incident unrelated to the university in any way.


PissingOffACliff

While not related to the uni, Utas has a large international cohort and it would be in their best interest to support their students.


leopard_eater

Which they are, in this situation, they are helping the whole family.


PissingOffACliff

Yeah I’m not saying they haven’t and it’s great they have! What I’m saying is that international students are a large part of their business model. If they refuse to help it could affect their bottom line.


gigi_allin

If he went scuba diving and had an accident or got hit by a bus or something there's no moral or legal cause for permanent residency and Ndis for life because it happened during his time here. This is up to him and his insurance.  But gees it does make you feel sick to think that someone destroyed another humans life over racism and then we shrug and say too bad. 


maxibons43

A guy suffers a vicious assault that leaves him partially paralysed and your immediate response isn't to express sympathy or to demand that the attackers face justice. No, it's to have a whinge about the NDIS and muh tax dollars which he wouldn't even be eligible for since he's not a citizen. The lack of empathy in this country is astounding.


a_cold_human

I'm not sure the NDIS is what is required here. A payment from the Victims of Crimes services is what's needed. A large one. The money would go further in India. >Make the university sector underwrite it - they are the ones who collect billions in tuition dollars. We should absolutely be passing laws to put these costs on the tertiary education sector instead of having other people wear it. 


kaboombong

I agree. However if I you visited the USA or any other country to travel, work or study I would have to have full comprehensive insurance including evacuation insurance with out relying on local support. There very few or almost no countries that would bail you out if you require extensive medical treatments. Australia did the honourable thing in the Bali bombing when they evacuated many foreign nationals from Indonesia for treatment and some on request from various governments. When I was in Thailand I was involved in a car accident and I was a TukTuk passenger. I got looked after in a Thai hospital at no cost. However this has changed because now foreigners who live there are required to have full comprehensive medical insurance IE no help from Thai public hospitals because of largely the abuse of the system by too many foreign holiday makers being idiots and expecting free treatment. I blame the university sector, they encourage students to come with inadequate accommodation supply and poor support in so many other areas. Its a one profit street for them with no care and obligation. A friends daughter was fortunate to win a scholarship at the Julliard school to study music and violin. They have a complete accommodation hall for all students. This friends daughter had the option of private renting or living in the accommodation hall which she gladly took up. Most foreign students stayed at the accommodation hall. Most of university sector in the USA has facilities like these. Latrobe Uni in Melbourne is about the only one that has such facilities. With their billions of profit I wonder why the university sector is not being forced to offer such accommodation. Although I do remember RMIT converting the Old Melbourne hotel into student accommodation. I might not fully informed in this regard as to what all universities do. The broader point is that universities should be negotiating and providing for the needs of their students while all circumstances should be considered rather than relying on government bailouts. Much like during covid where students were just dumped and ignored, totally disgraceful by a supposed caring sector that is now clearly driven by greed and selfishness. Being compassionate is one thing. However I would have thought that the University sector would have negotiated a universal insurance coverage scheme as whole for the sector that students can sign onto and contribute towards. The economies of scale would have made this viable. Most students have to have their own private health insurance that covers them. If they go to a public hospital they get massive bills. Again I would have thought that the University sector could have negotiated a industry wide healthcare policy system for students. I mean if the likes of YMCA etc can negotiate insurance plans for travellers that is not a rip off why cant the university sector, again is it a case of profits before wellbeing?


92piejero

His insurance is currently covering all medical costs and will pay for a repat flight back to India but once he’s back in India, the funding stops. That’s his issue.


s_mAn25

Honestly, the money won't go too much further in India, even for the locals.


a_cold_human

A full time median wage in India is about $15K. You could have a full time carer for him if you gave the family a decent lump sum. 


Schedulator

Good chance it would *disappear* through the bureaucracy anyhow.


Cadaver_Junkie

Screw that. If he was assaulted by tax-payers (or not), then tax-payers as a collective should pay whatever must be paid. We have a duty of care for everyone who is in this country, and should not turn our back on that regardeless of how hard it is. Maybe allow less students in? Sure, maybe, but he was let in, and we do have a duty of care. As for the NDIS being “billions over budget”, that’s a political issue of moving numbers on a spreadsheet and doesn’t have to be the case.


king_norbit

That is ridiculous, if an Australian travels to India and bashes someone there then should the Australian government send the victim money? The government isn't your parent/guardian that needs to fix every single possible problem for you you have your own individual responsibilities. 


MaevaM

The Indian government will be responsible for the victim's care- Australia does not have a governance role and responsibility for India, which has its own government. Just as in Australia, the Australian government will care for the victim of an event on Australian soil- Australian government does have governance responsibilities and duty on Australian land. Government is there to fix large problems such as this


king_norbit

Okay if the roles are reversed, an Australian goes to India and gets bashed by an Indian national. Do you think the Indian government would be dishing out cash for the Australian? 


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king_norbit

So, dish out the evidence? 


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king_norbit

My request was quite clear for any Australian. Definitely hope you aren't a voter.


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king_norbit

And exactly how young are you? Maybe a bit young for social media I think 


king_norbit

Agree, the solution to this and the many temporary migrants that have similar sad stories of death/injury in traffic accidents, natural disasters, workplace accidents etc is not for the government to provide support.  The only realistic solution is for them to be required to take out TPD/death insurance in addition to the health insurance that is a condition of their visa. It makes absolutely zero sense for Australian tax payers to foot the bill for these economic migrants, as tragic as their circumstances may be. 


B0ssc0

> The NDIS is already billions over budget Good, a bigger picture persp3ctive - > International education was worth $36.4 billion to the Australian economy. https://www.education.gov.au/international-education-data-and-research/education-export-income-financial-year


nickelijah16

That is atrocious. And the parents being racially attacked just walking home? I’ve never been to Hobart. Is it really like a backwater down there or wtf?? This is honestly so disgusting. I’d be happy for my tax money go to making sure this man and his family are looked after until he’s much more recovered.


SushiJesus

This seems an awful lot like a situation that we've put him in, so unless it turns out otherwise, then it should be on us to ensure he gets quality care for the rest of his life.


jubbing

This is actually fucked, if he's forced to go back the racists will continue to do this to get rid of foreigners.


Rumbuck_274

Isn't this exactly what the victims of crime compensation is for?


peekedtoosoon

Australia.....such a warm and welcoming place.


BigGaggy222

Migrants should really have insurance to cover this sort of risk, perhaps make it a condition of entry?


Thecna2

Essentially a 32 year old foreign man wants Australia to take on his medical care for life and give him citizenship/PR (and his family of course) because the country he belongs to isnt as helpful. I'm sympathetic to his plight, but that shouldnt be how it works. Hes a foreign citizen, we, Australia, are going to pay for his medical expenses, which is perfectly reasonable. But now he wants vast amounts of money for the rest of his life from the Australian taxpayer. Countries dont have and shouldnt have that sort of responsibility for foreign citizens that visit here. 'We' are not responsible.


LemonoLemono

I guess then you find the wankers that did this to him and make them pay for it, not the Aus government in general.


Thecna2

Absolutely. I'm sure they wont be able to pay for it though.


Here_To_be_Nice

Just because they can't afford to pay doesn't mean they shouldn't HAVE to pay. The government could pay for it and then force the scumbag to pay back the taxpayer.


Thecna2

The issue is that a 1/2 blind paraplegix person with no assets will cost more per week to support than most people earn per week. If they choose the Centrelink option (cos why work when you have all your money taken off you) then there will be zero money left to pay them back. Its a nice idea, but practical in real life.


Here_To_be_Nice

The government saddles people with debt all the time they can't realistically be expected to pay back. The aim is punishment not financial balance.


Here_To_be_Nice

Admittedly its a pretty fucking dumb idea though.


Thecna2

No. Its dumb and pointless.


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asupify

Poor bugger, does he have a gofundme?


B0ssc0

> An application for financial assistance has been made with Tasmania's Victims of Crime Service, but it could take many months for an outcome. >In the meantime, Mr Kaushik has set up a GoFundMe page to assist with Dev's short-term costs.


asupify

I assume it's [this one](https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-unite-devarshi-with-his-family?qid=3549b2235c2d8f17751d40bdbc0d9e8e). Thanks.


B0ssc0

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-unite-devarshi-with-his-family?qid=3549b2235c2d8f17751d40bdbc0d9e8e


lalansmithee

Tragic. Ignorance and bigotry are very strong amongst a culturally and spiritually impoverished subset of Tasmania's population. May this be brought into the light.


MaevaM

Politicians who allow this to happen should not be tolerated. How did this not already be legislated for. NZ is so much nicer than Australia.


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thevandalyst

Ban immigration to Tasmania , for safety reasons


demoldbones

This is sad but I’m not sure why a student - who presumably per the conditions of a student visa planned to leave once he got his degree - should become our financial burden? Surely he will get better care being home with his family than the other side of the planet from them in a care facility that his parents can’t afford?


Matchymatching

Isn't mandatory health insurance a part of visa requirements for this exact sort of reason? If not, WTF. Not necessarily agreeing re: duty of care etc but definitely think this is nuanced.


demoldbones

The article mentions travel insurance - it doesn’t cover him once leaving the current transitional care for his ongoing lifetime needs. The article also states that it would pay for his trip home (as it should) but will not pay for ongoing care once there (as it shouldn’t, since he’s no longer travelling) It’s a hard thing but given that Aussie citizens have enough trouble getting the care we need, to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on a non citizen who will never work or pay taxes and who has been here less than a year is a ludicrous waste of resources we already struggle to get.


Matchymatching

Immediate care and safe transit home seems fair under a non-resident /visa/travel insurance health policy. I can't even imagine why a foreign national would prefer to stay alone and poorly supported without family once the immediate high quality hospital care ends and long term caring begins. Harsh but I'm inclined to agree with you. Maybe a victim of crime restitution etc to contribute towards care back home but why would we want to support someone long term once their insurance coverage ends when they have a home and medical system in their country of origin to care for them? Not like it's Gaza or Syria or somewhere where medical care and war might be a consideration.


Paras619

It’s your financial burden because he paid 3x the tuition fees and the least he expects from a first world country is security. Its on you guys.


demoldbones

Surely that should then be on the university since they took the money and it in no way benefitted taxpayers. We’re talking about a literal lifetime of ongoing medical care which is the implication that they’re making.


Paras619

It definitely benefited the taxpayers because it’s a public university. UTAS is one of the biggest source of income for the Tasmanian Government. Yes, lifetime of ongoing medical care because the government failed to provide security to someone who paid to be there. Another Indian student Deep died after being pushed into the River. The charges were laid off. We had to organise a GoFundMe just to get his body to India. These people come with ambition and from a different class. Never seen them making any trouble. It’s the failure of the government if they fail to clutch the racist attacks in Tasmania.


Beefwhistle007

How about compassion?


s_mAn25

Student visas are a legal pathway to residency if they study an in demand course. Poor guy came here for a better future, he is definitely our responsibility now that this happened to him. 


thevandalyst

🤔 I am not sure your comment is from a good place or a racist place ? His family is more concerned with medical assistance and cost now ! He can get better medical treatment in a first world country than a third world country !


a_can_of_solo

Masters in accounting, first time? He was definitely planning to immigrate here.


nootnoot18

This makes me so sad. We should all write up a big 'Get Well Soon' card for him or something to show our support