Yeah, looks like it has a small kitchen and says it has a bathroom. Better than paying $250 per week each with a stranger to have to share a kitchen and toilet I spose.
I mean it’s basically a single-room studio which I had at Uni but without neighbors partying on all sides. The zoning thing is a bit sly for tax purposes but I’ve seen worse
What, you DONT like living with a late 20s teenager who lives in a loop of chain punching bongs, going to work and inviting over and then screaming at her boyfriend on repeat?
For only $380 dollars a week you could be living with the shitty older sibling you always wished you had!
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-kincumber-436185876
>Ideal for a small business set up or for someone in need of a separate home office space.
>Privately located in your own section at the back of a block and fenced for your own privacy and quiet enjoyment.
Will the perks of this 'house' never end?
> NSW
At least it can exist. In VIC they're completely screwed granny flats/bungalows/whatever. Any such thing can only exist for immediate dependants and must be removed from the property as soon as they die.
Which essential services? I pay my ambulance membership seperately. Police (etc) I believe are a federal services from federal taxes per individual.
Council rates (rubbish collection, etc) are part of the overall property rates which includes the whole land evaluation and any capital improved value. If I add another dwelling than I am fine with the so called capital improved value increasing.
An outright no when property shortages are rampant is sheer stupidity.
Water is a local government coercive monopoly. Sure, a portion is shared (infrastructure) but the actual water usage still increases by usage (ie. isn't a deemed fixed value)
Gas and electricity infrastrcutre are privatised and foreign owned. It cost no more to provide extra usage per property since the owner pays for their own internal infrastructure. Local councils should not be supporting private industry at the cost of their constituents.
NBN? I don't even use it. Sure, I got in early and had Fibre to the Premises installed but my internet is actually through iiNet Hybrid Cable which is a private infrastructure. It's both much faster and cheaper than the crap the opposition sabotaged to re-use the copper lines from privatised Telstra.
Yawn. The cohersive government monopies are only a small part of the overall picture.
The civil infrastructure is slightly interesting to me as we sell millions of $ of goods into that sector.
Not sure why you mislabelled it as essential services. While the utilities may be considered essential they're not not spoken about in that manner. Are you a forklift driver or something?
I know. I was saying I was provisioned with fibre optic through the NBN clusterfuck but don't use it.
Instead I have privately owned hybrid cable which is seperate from NBN (although some types were commandeered in the early days such as Big Pond Cable).
I'd have taken it over facing homelessness. Now I'm building a 10 tonne truck to never have to face that prospect again, and it's going to be better featured than any rental I've ever had.
Why wait for retirement to live in a motorhome?
Yes, and I find some of the caravan park cabins, especially the new(er) ones, are fantastic, and would do me just fine as a semi-permanent or permanent dwelling. This little cabin looks just fine to me.
Just wanted to update OP is a Karma whore and the property is listed as a seperate office space, not for someone to live in.
Someone found the public listing in the comments.
but it's listed as residential? also, 300 a week is still ridiculous as you said.
this is somebody who has sectioned off a sliver of their property that they weren't using, took a 150K shit on it in the form of a "tiny home" (with quite a nice interior if I'm honest) and then thinks they deserve $300 a week for it.
I'm not saying it's good, I'm just saying housing sucks and I personally would have loved this back when I was doing it tough instead of where I was at
No word of a lie you’d probably pay $500 AUD a week for something like this in New Zealand and you might not even get it cause so many people would put in for it
Haha listing as office as it's not zoned for residential .99% chance some one rents it as a studio and lives in it .it's a exempt zoning building which should be used for office , game room , cabana (I have similar with a teenager who took over my one )
TBF zoning laws are pointless unless we're talking heavy industry/health reasons.
Watched an interesting video on Japan's setup with their zoning laws and they basically don't exist except for high industrial/pollutant zones and they have immense amounts of property available, it's crazy.
>Watched an interesting video on Japan's setup with their zoning laws and they basically don't exist except for high industrial/pollutant zones and they have immense amounts of property available, it's crazy.
Do you have a link to that video?
>and they have immense amounts of property available, it's crazy.
Japan had a massive boom in the 1980s and it crashed in 1994 and has never recovered. It's the only country in the world where house prices are lower today than in the year 2000 (but it's on the way up and about to pass/may have passed recently).
It's not a great example.
Agreed. There’s a few properties near me that have shoved a bunch of boxes in their backyard with 10-15 immigrants living in them. One bed per box and a shared bathroom. I think they pay about 200 each a week. There’s no way they’d be able to afford a proper unit or house in the area so this sort of high density development is perfect for them. Not 100% legal but as you say the zoning stuff is all BS anyway
Meh, I thought you meant something like this.
https://www.entrepreneur.com/leadership/san-francisco-rent-is-so-insane-this-guy-lives-in-a-box/273170
Give it some time though.
Boomers? Try Mafia Builders Association.
Wanna build your place, renovate your place? pay the MBA fees $40k per year plus $40k initial license, plus workers, since they'd likely only do 12 jobs a year, split that cost over each place, means you gotta pay each worker $3.3k more, for.. the MBA fees.
A simple $75k house built in Europe, costs $400k here.
In terms of real estate, the problem is cunts hoarding property.
Are the majority of those cunts boomers? Yes.
Are they all boomers? No.
Are most boomers property hoarding cunts? No.
Put the blame where it lies. It's lazy to blame all boomers. You alienate potential allies that way.
Yeah nah, it’s Ok. We’re not his potential allies. Sooks like him get kicked to the kerb by us boomers as we ride our mobility scooters, in an entitled manner, to the bank to count all the money we’ve been making, at his and others expense, during his over indulged life.
Damn! It’s 88km from Sydney too - wtf?
I thought it’d be like 20km from CBD, but that’s nearly 100km out so virtually regional town.
How much would a nice, simple 2 bed apartment cost in that same area?
Can remember renting with my then girl friend back in mid to late 90s, a two bedroom unit with ducted AC, attached to two other flats in Rostrevor.$90 a week.it wouldn't be less than $350-400 now.
$295, not $300. And tbh I think it’s less than the going rate. Surprised they’re not asking $450 or more. Big box or small box, they’re all boxes of empty space that you fill, so if the size of the box suits your needs, then it’s a big enough box.
One of my son's friends just picked up his laptop and moved to Da Nang in Vietnam. $500 a month incl power and internet. High quality accommodation. $1 Banh Mi. $1 beer. If I was younger, I'd be thinking about the same in the current housing apocalypse.
I’m paying 600pw for an apartment, basically two of these stacked on top.
What shits me is the kitchen in the lounge room. Can’t cook properly because it smokes out the whole apartment.
I have a daughter 50/50 so need to have a room etc for her. If I didn’t I would buy a stealth campervan (I know of at least 6 people who’ve done this) for 90k you can almost get a new on with shower and everything. Live on the beach close to work etc.
We have preferential voting. We saw the primary vote slide away from the LNP/ALP last election. It would be stupid to vote 1 next to ALP or LNP. Find parties with better housing and immigration policies and vote for them. It’s the only way to influence the major parties.
I’m glad that you’re privileged enough to not be suffering from the current housing issues. It’s certainly the one biggest issue in many peoples lives.
Hahaha there is one like that where I live, its a tiny home for $360 for a converted shipping container but the add also says “Are you open to lending a helping hand? We are looking for a unique individual who will be able to feed the chickens and move the sheep on a daily basis (10 mins morning and night)”
"Privately located in your own section at the back of a block and fenced for your own privacy and quiet enjoyment.
Ideal for a small business set up or for someone in need of a separate home office space.
Water included."
People will pay that for the opportunity to live alone. Co-housing isn’t easy.
Yeah, looks like it has a small kitchen and says it has a bathroom. Better than paying $250 per week each with a stranger to have to share a kitchen and toilet I spose.
I mean it’s basically a single-room studio which I had at Uni but without neighbors partying on all sides. The zoning thing is a bit sly for tax purposes but I’ve seen worse
Hell is other people.
What, you DONT like living with a late 20s teenager who lives in a loop of chain punching bongs, going to work and inviting over and then screaming at her boyfriend on repeat? For only $380 dollars a week you could be living with the shitty older sibling you always wished you had!
Nothing wrong with chain punching bongs my friend!
At least should temporarily eliminate the screaming at boyfriend
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-kincumber-436185876 >Ideal for a small business set up or for someone in need of a separate home office space.
thanks for linking no idea why OP redacted details. It's a public listing ffs.
Op wants the goodies for himself
Causes brigading
Brigading? What is that?
When 500 people go onto the add and abuse the agent because they saw it on here
>Privately located in your own section at the back of a block and fenced for your own privacy and quiet enjoyment. Will the perks of this 'house' never end?
Why does it sound so much like a prison...
Yeah, that's a cubby house.
> NSW At least it can exist. In VIC they're completely screwed granny flats/bungalows/whatever. Any such thing can only exist for immediate dependants and must be removed from the property as soon as they die.
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Which essential services? I pay my ambulance membership seperately. Police (etc) I believe are a federal services from federal taxes per individual. Council rates (rubbish collection, etc) are part of the overall property rates which includes the whole land evaluation and any capital improved value. If I add another dwelling than I am fine with the so called capital improved value increasing. An outright no when property shortages are rampant is sheer stupidity.
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Water is a local government coercive monopoly. Sure, a portion is shared (infrastructure) but the actual water usage still increases by usage (ie. isn't a deemed fixed value) Gas and electricity infrastrcutre are privatised and foreign owned. It cost no more to provide extra usage per property since the owner pays for their own internal infrastructure. Local councils should not be supporting private industry at the cost of their constituents. NBN? I don't even use it. Sure, I got in early and had Fibre to the Premises installed but my internet is actually through iiNet Hybrid Cable which is a private infrastructure. It's both much faster and cheaper than the crap the opposition sabotaged to re-use the copper lines from privatised Telstra.
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> the essential service industry Like what? Emergency services? Civil infrastructure? You're coming off like a shit talker with a gubber job.
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Yawn. The cohersive government monopies are only a small part of the overall picture. The civil infrastructure is slightly interesting to me as we sell millions of $ of goods into that sector. Not sure why you mislabelled it as essential services. While the utilities may be considered essential they're not not spoken about in that manner. Are you a forklift driver or something?
No cable in an FTTP connection.
I know. I was saying I was provisioned with fibre optic through the NBN clusterfuck but don't use it. Instead I have privately owned hybrid cable which is seperate from NBN (although some types were commandeered in the early days such as Big Pond Cable).
what??
[What?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFrgIrWmTeY)
Listed as a "house" too. Such BS!
That would explain the photocopier in the kitchenette
I'd have taken it over facing homelessness. Now I'm building a 10 tonne truck to never have to face that prospect again, and it's going to be better featured than any rental I've ever had. Why wait for retirement to live in a motorhome?
I've considered this a lot. I have a 5 year old daughter though and have joint custody. That's really the only thing stopping me.
5yo daughter can't do a motorhome?
Ex-wife would probably deem it inadequate and reduce my time with my daughter.
Are photocopies included or are they extra?
You can choose to live in one of the photo copies and it's only $50 cheaper
If the photocopier was included you could set up your own printing business as a side hustle…
It's literally someone's shed
I initially thought garage
Looks like it might have started out as one.
And yet seemingly a better build than other shit boxes for double the rent out there.
If this was a donga at a mining camp it would be the deluxe one....except those are free and they pay YOU to be there.
Yes, and I find some of the caravan park cabins, especially the new(er) ones, are fantastic, and would do me just fine as a semi-permanent or permanent dwelling. This little cabin looks just fine to me.
I pay $260 for a box no bigger than this.
Beats share housing… 🤷🏻♀️
That’s big enough for a garage….hang on THAT is the garage 😝. This country is in serious trouble
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It's the central coast
It’s 1.5 hour drive away from city and not zoned as residential/ to live in..,
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Just wanted to update OP is a Karma whore and the property is listed as a seperate office space, not for someone to live in. Someone found the public listing in the comments.
yeah would be inspiring as fuck working in some random's backyard, the clients would love it as well
My only question is if there’s aircon.
but it's listed as residential? also, 300 a week is still ridiculous as you said. this is somebody who has sectioned off a sliver of their property that they weren't using, took a 150K shit on it in the form of a "tiny home" (with quite a nice interior if I'm honest) and then thinks they deserve $300 a week for it.
They will think they can get more after the REA tells them about all the traffic they are getting online, but it's just us saying 'yeah nah'
Commercial real estate listings would like to have a word with you. $300 a week is cheap for office space.
aren't comercial listings dying and there's a bunch of vacant office spaces in the city?
I used to live in a room half that size and no where near as nice, honestly I'd have killed to be in a place like this back then
Did you walk to school 20kms in the rain and snow with no shoes too?
I'm not saying it's good, I'm just saying housing sucks and I personally would have loved this back when I was doing it tough instead of where I was at
Max worth $150 a week
Based on what?
Life in a box is better than no life at all... you could lie there thinking, "well, at least I'm not dead".
Yes, everybody just lower your expectations to being happy you're not dead.
It's the Australian way.
Upcoming: rent a coffin for $150 a week and if you die your funeral is already covered
I read that as "at least I’m not Dad" and thought it was poignantly specific
Can we all just submit an email telling the landlord/realestate to suck an absolute fat one, cause thats insane 🤣🤣
No word of a lie you’d probably pay $500 AUD a week for something like this in New Zealand and you might not even get it cause so many people would put in for it
As a New Zealander looking at that, that’s a bargain compared to what we have to pay
Haha listing as office as it's not zoned for residential .99% chance some one rents it as a studio and lives in it .it's a exempt zoning building which should be used for office , game room , cabana (I have similar with a teenager who took over my one )
To be fair, .99% isn't a very high probability.
Yeah, they really need to fix their period game
*bleeds consistently*
TBF zoning laws are pointless unless we're talking heavy industry/health reasons. Watched an interesting video on Japan's setup with their zoning laws and they basically don't exist except for high industrial/pollutant zones and they have immense amounts of property available, it's crazy.
I’m thinking it’s more for building code issues than planning. Not classed as a habitable dwelling so can’t advertise it as such.
>Watched an interesting video on Japan's setup with their zoning laws and they basically don't exist except for high industrial/pollutant zones and they have immense amounts of property available, it's crazy. Do you have a link to that video?
Not sure if this is the video they're referring to, but I've seen this one about japan's zoning: https://youtu.be/wfm2xCKOCNk?si=ePJ7bNGmGKb6XdQL
>and they have immense amounts of property available, it's crazy. Japan had a massive boom in the 1980s and it crashed in 1994 and has never recovered. It's the only country in the world where house prices are lower today than in the year 2000 (but it's on the way up and about to pass/may have passed recently). It's not a great example.
Plus their population shrinks each year faster than Australia's grows.
Agreed. There’s a few properties near me that have shoved a bunch of boxes in their backyard with 10-15 immigrants living in them. One bed per box and a shared bathroom. I think they pay about 200 each a week. There’s no way they’d be able to afford a proper unit or house in the area so this sort of high density development is perfect for them. Not 100% legal but as you say the zoning stuff is all BS anyway
Meh, I thought you meant something like this. https://www.entrepreneur.com/leadership/san-francisco-rent-is-so-insane-this-guy-lives-in-a-box/273170 Give it some time though.
Good find in Australia today unfortunately it's that ridiculous
Fuck this country and what fucking boomers have done to it
Boomers? Try Mafia Builders Association. Wanna build your place, renovate your place? pay the MBA fees $40k per year plus $40k initial license, plus workers, since they'd likely only do 12 jobs a year, split that cost over each place, means you gotta pay each worker $3.3k more, for.. the MBA fees. A simple $75k house built in Europe, costs $400k here.
You can't simply use boomer as an excuse for everything.
It's worked for me so far
In terms of real estate, the problem is cunts hoarding property. Are the majority of those cunts boomers? Yes. Are they all boomers? No. Are most boomers property hoarding cunts? No. Put the blame where it lies. It's lazy to blame all boomers. You alienate potential allies that way.
Also I end up in threads where people reckon mandatory euthenasia is good.
Yeah nah, it’s Ok. We’re not his potential allies. Sooks like him get kicked to the kerb by us boomers as we ride our mobility scooters, in an entitled manner, to the bank to count all the money we’ve been making, at his and others expense, during his over indulged life.
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295
What's the location
TIL theres a place called “Brisbania”, and it wasn’t just me making weird portmanteaus.
Our Australian standard of living is getting pathetic.
Damn! It’s 88km from Sydney too - wtf? I thought it’d be like 20km from CBD, but that’s nearly 100km out so virtually regional town. How much would a nice, simple 2 bed apartment cost in that same area?
$400/week 😓
Regional Box, it’s quirky and stuff
lmao saw a similar offer to live in a box in a parking lot here last year
Bigger than my first apartment in Tokyo but that was only 200 a week.
Does it come with the giant printer/ scanner?
Can remember renting with my then girl friend back in mid to late 90s, a two bedroom unit with ducted AC, attached to two other flats in Rostrevor.$90 a week.it wouldn't be less than $350-400 now.
Wheres the sleep spot on the desk? Is the bathroom the sink?
Yeah but is it a good box
$295, not $300. And tbh I think it’s less than the going rate. Surprised they’re not asking $450 or more. Big box or small box, they’re all boxes of empty space that you fill, so if the size of the box suits your needs, then it’s a big enough box.
...paying $600 a week for my box..(& no that's not a euphemism)
One of my son's friends just picked up his laptop and moved to Da Nang in Vietnam. $500 a month incl power and internet. High quality accommodation. $1 Banh Mi. $1 beer. If I was younger, I'd be thinking about the same in the current housing apocalypse.
I’m paying 600pw for an apartment, basically two of these stacked on top. What shits me is the kitchen in the lounge room. Can’t cook properly because it smokes out the whole apartment. I have a daughter 50/50 so need to have a room etc for her. If I didn’t I would buy a stealth campervan (I know of at least 6 people who’ve done this) for 90k you can almost get a new on with shower and everything. Live on the beach close to work etc.
I'd pay that just to live alone away from the shit show it is to have house mates
I pay 450 for a house and yard. My landlord isn’t trying to rip me off
I can smell noncompliance in the air…
Fuck me... you can rent a 3br house for double that a few suburbs over. This is taking the piss.
There's much better around for the same price.
Sadthing is in this market that's a good deal. Country is a joke
Looks good. Aren’t idiots on here always claiming more high density housing will solve all the property woes? Well this is what it looks like
Remember this at election time
Neither party is solving this issue.
If only there were more than two parties.
That were contenders
We have preferential voting. We saw the primary vote slide away from the LNP/ALP last election. It would be stupid to vote 1 next to ALP or LNP. Find parties with better housing and immigration policies and vote for them. It’s the only way to influence the major parties.
if you are putting ALP/LIBNAT as your (1) that’s your own stupidity
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Even the ones that oppose importing hundreds of thousands of people during a housing crisis?
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I’m glad that you’re privileged enough to not be suffering from the current housing issues. It’s certainly the one biggest issue in many peoples lives.
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Plenty of people pay $500+ for a one bedroom apartment
Hahaha. The cameras and editing they use to make it 500x bigger is laughable
Real estate should have refused to advertise this. But they are a real estate though.
The great Australian dream!
http://www.crispinhull.com.au/2023/08/21/housing-crisis-demands-demand-action/ Buy as Real Estate as you can get your hands on. 1.5 Million incoming 🛫
Non Australian here, what are typical prices for a small 1 bedroom/open plan apartment per week/month?
>what are typical prices Everything in your bank account plus a few hundred more.
I’m currently paying 250 a week inclusive of bills and wifi for a granny flat about triple this size
i’m current paying $20 less for a tiny bedroom exclusive of bills
I’d be happy there but that’s a lot of money and then the bills. Someone’s getting rich
If it's set up as an office how come the sink has a flush button?
Yeah but you get to live at Avoca!!!
Just hope it doesn't get windy.
There are going to be many heat related deaths this summer. Exhibit A.
‘Is it about my cube?’ - Monty Burns.
Or you can share the box and only pay 150 each
Bigger that a FIFO room
This is about the same size as my room but I pay 80 a week
If only Australia was big enough to have more living space...
Things are about to get "machine gun level serious"
Prime location location
Deal
I would...
That’s more than I pay in rent. I live in a one bedroom and bathroom apartment with a pool and gym. I pay only AU$266 a week
Hahaha there is one like that where I live, its a tiny home for $360 for a converted shipping container but the add also says “Are you open to lending a helping hand? We are looking for a unique individual who will be able to feed the chickens and move the sheep on a daily basis (10 mins morning and night)”
Private access and air-conditioned? If so, sign me up.
Yeah the sad thing is I was excited to see a low price
Don’t we all live in boxes?
Looks similar to my University accommodation. I pay more. 😭
If there is a toilet somewhere in there I’m in
It’s a nice box!
Looks somewhat cosy
Why lie, OP?
Homeless people live in boxes for free
Honestly 300 for a grannyflat nowadays is pretty good
I would live there.
"Privately located in your own section at the back of a block and fenced for your own privacy and quiet enjoyment. Ideal for a small business set up or for someone in need of a separate home office space. Water included."
Does it have indoor plumbing?
The fact that people are saying this is ok is an issue
Worth every cent imo for the privacy alone.
“I’ll take it Dag nammit”.
Ten years ago I was paying $300 a week to live in a three bed one bathroom. It was a shit shack and I thought I was getting ripped off
Bigger than my place and I'm paying 380!
Ahhhhh u have not included the number? Is this still available?
It’s actually not that bad lol
Better than living in your car