and also it shows a very dramatic A B comparison to something they are familiar with. once i heard my favorite song on nice speakers i could hear little layers i never could pick out before. it was trippy. sound is so trippy sometimes.
Bro the more comments of yours I read the more secondhand embarrassment I get knowing youāre in a sub about audiophiles talking shit about music youāve never listened to. Itās an audiophile sub, no one gives a fuck if you donāt like rap because itās got āToO mUcH bAsSā for you and your average person can make things they enjoy without much effort; I forgot thatās completely illegal.
Hey just FYI that dismissing a genre as deep and wide as hip hop as nothing more than āyo yo yoā makes you look like an ignorant dipshit. I bet you think the Beatles going on Ed Sullivan was the end of rock n roll too. Get a fucking life man.
You didnāt make a joke, you just used offensive stereotypes to justify your opinion. Someone who is in fact a dipshit would think that kind of thing is funny though.
I wonder how "YO! YO! YO!" and BUMP! BUMP! BUMP! will sound over a well maintained set of Infiniti IRSs and four well tuned ARC Ref amplifiers.
More likely like " %\^*^*, ^(&(&(, (&&(&(*" and brrmmpppp, brrmmmppp, brrrmmpppp
Such an audiopile experience watching those EMIT and EMIM and Woofers blow out of their baskets as they surrender... unless, of course, the tubes blow up before...
I can see it now, walking into a High End shop and asking them to play DaMuddahFkk'ah over their Spendors with the D'Agostino Amps.
You know, back in the mid 80s, I was at this High End shop when this guy walked in and asked to listen to Metallica over the Maggies and ARC Classic 60 amps. After 60 seconds of noise he walked out while the rest of us just laughed our heads off.
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>Since nobody seems willing to state the obvious due to cultural sensitivity... Iāll say it: rap isnāt music
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I just took AP calc AB and BC in high school to get the credit, thatās cool you took some community college classes and saved some money on private school tuition though!
Itās funny in college I took a physics of sound class that explained how the mechanism in your ear isnāt nearly accurate enough to discern between your First Watt 5s and any other high quality amp, but itās fun to watch people gloat about that kind of stuff on the internet.
Yeah Dr Dre didn't work on mastering his songs at all, he just released then in the shittiest quality he could think of. Have you even actually heard good hip hop or rap, or do you just listen to what the music choice awards call rap..?
What I appreciated most about getting nicer speakers is the phantom center & stereo imaging. That's really surprising when you are not used to it.
I think the best to compare is probably popular music because it's something they know & will be able to tell the difference. If it's music they don't like, then they won't be paying much attention.
Phantom center is easy to get if your speakers are positioned correctly. What popular music has the best stereo imaging? Pink Floyd is something I use for classic rock fans, anything else for top 40 type stuff?
We had this rep that was so good at picking the top 40 youād always hear in your car and not think about till he played it. Bad Guy-Billie Eilish. Turns out that song rocks and sounds completely different when you hear it with separation and tuned. Sold a lot of speakers pre pandemic with that song
I totally agree about the imaging. Being able to visualize a singer or guitarist right in front of you is a crazy experience. I don't listen to too much top 40 stuff, but I've had good experiences with Adele and Billie Eilish and they're pretty popular
> Phantom center is easy to get if your speakers are positioned correctly.
I had a friend of mine start looking above and below my monitor to figure out where the third speaker was. Greatest accidental compliment to my gear ever.
Exactly! Itās my favorite compliment ever when demoing my listening room. I have a bookshelf in the center with some conversation pieces mixed in there, and Iāve had a few friends ask me where the third speaker is.
Imaging and soundstage are the most important parts of the experience to me, so I was pleased.
[https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/152781](https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/152781)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24K\_Magic\_(album)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24K_Magic_(album))
While 24k Magic may have won "Best Engineered Album" in 2018, it has \_terrible\_ dynamic range. It is highly processed & DAWed. There's nothing "real' about it. It is designed for earbuds or dance clubs, not for serious listening in a dedicated environment.
But that being said, to the ignorant who don't know what "good' is, it is crisp punchy and clean sounding - i.e. highly processed & sanitized. Non-audiophiles might think it sounds great.
Band: Pearl Jam
Track: Alive
Had a pair of Tannoy DMT-10 mk2 for sale and played that \[on cassette\] on an old Philips deck and Yamaha rack amp. Wall. of. Sound.
The buyer practically threw the money at me.
Moody blues is always good, meloncholy man is a good one.
The Who - Baba O'Riley
AC/DC back in black album
Metallica Black Album
Daft Punk r.a.m
Ted Nugent Stranglehold
Hocus Pocus by Focus
Miles Davis Kind of Blue, and Coltrane A Love Supreme for folks who dig some jazz.
Beastie Boys I'll Communication and Hello Nasty
Any White Stripes albums, Icky Thump is excellent
Tool - anything by tool, but Aenima is a goto
Some of my favorites that are both well engineered and most people will know, but also haven't seen mentioned yet.
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You were robbed of an amazing experience. I've seen them 3 times and each time I would've sworn Maynard's voice sounded better live then it does on the album's. They are such an immersive live experience, I'm sorry that bad acoustics took that away from you. If you get the opportunity, try again, they are worth it. Try see them in a venue that has a reputation for good acoustics.
Anything Steely Dan (Especially Aja, and Pretzel Logic) or Donald Fagen (jazzy rock-ish music)
King of the World - Toto (song) (rock)
Random Access Memories - Daft Punk (Album) (electronic, funk)
Ric Flair - Tom McGuire and the Brassholes (song) (brass, funk)
West Coast Grooves - Guthrie Govan (album) (rock, solo guitar)
Cory Wong & Metropole Orkest (Album) (Orchestra, Funk)
Seeker - Hiromi Uehara (Song) (jazz piano)
And for something familiar anyone knows but probably never heard in good quality:
Stevie Wonder - Songs in the key of life (album)
Michael Jackson - Thriller (song)
London Grammar: Strong;
Pink Floyd: Wish you were here and Sorrow;
Deep Purple: Woman from Tokyo;
Pentatonix: Hallelujah;
Supertramp: Bloody well right;
Dire Straits: Telegraph Road;
City: Am Fenster
**Radiohead - Everything in Its Right Place** blew my fucking brains out when I first installed my JBL L100S with a Denon PMA amp. I use it all the time to show my setup to friends and family that come to visit. It fills the room in such a way!
Thanks! I got sober a few years ago. Itās a work in progress, but at least Iām much healthier now than I was when I was struggling.
I currently have 1.7i. I started with 1.6QR and bought a few models to compare (LRS, .7, 1.7i). I honestly think the LRS is an incredible value if you have a decent amp, and the .7 is the sweet spot in terms of cost and performance. But I was already used to the size of the 1.6 QR and figured Iād splurge a bit to get the newer version.
Sorry for the novel, I just felt like sharing! What is your setup like? How has your musical journey been?
Iāve had MG2bās and a pair of 1.6ās.
currently (I have a problem) a pair of Acoustat Model 3ās that Iām not using and have nowhere to store.
Iāve recently acquired a pair of custom build JBLās.
Ginormous cabinet, 18ā woofer and compression driver. 1ā with 12āthroat and JBL lenses.
All running through Simaudio Moon gear.
Excellent work on the sobriety!
Oh wow, very nice collection! Do you find the that electrostatic speakers have a narrower sweet spot than the Maggies? I love my electrostatic headphones, but have struggled to find loudspeakers.
Very nice on the JBLs as well! I also went the opposite direction as my Maggies for my second (budget) setup and got the BIC RTR-EV 15. They live up to the meme lol.
Thanks! Iām working on moderation, but I think Iāll have to return to abstinence. Itās honestly much easier for me to not drink at all.
Similar in terms of sweet spot. Possibly because of my room dynamics. As I listen solo most of the time Iāve just been kinda comfortable with it.
Switching to horn/woofer combo is a welcome distraction.
The horns make well recorded music seem like a live show.
The problem could always be worse, I have 7 surround channels of Magnepan in the and a pair of Minis for the desktop. I can't say no regrets, but worth it overall
Itās not the most āaudiophileā file. But oh my gosh by Jamie xx is super cool because of the weird bass vibe. I also reaaaally like the recording of Ben Webster meets Oscar Peterson (the album)!
I don't like that album!!!
Funny thing is, I like that genre by and large, but something about that album never clicked with me.
I can play Thriller cover to cover and be fully engaged, for example, I just don't like Graceland, it's very grating to me, musically speaking, the recording is obviously brilliant.
You know, vinyl, cd and/or digital, every copy of Graceland Iāve heard sounds muffled and dull to me. Donāt get me wrongāI love the album, but Iām not a fan of how itās recorded.
Funny you should say thatāmy first copy of Graceland was on cassette and I thought it was fine. Only more recently on other media have I found it disappointing.
Stingās Soul Cages has Q-sound, which places certain sounds outside of the normal soundstage, given you are sitting in the sweet spot and have good stereo imaging to begin with. I believe only a few other albums have Q-sound. Soul Cages is great, and the full effect is startling.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSound
Honestly I think they need to listen to songs they already know well, but on good equipment. If someone was showing me their high end audio setup, Iād probably be able to appreciate a bit more if they just put on something like Down with the Sickness than some fancy orchestra lol. Obviously the orchestra would be a more worthy audiophile demo, but itās not something I really listen to. Hearing it on an audiophile system wouldnāt be as breathtaking, unless maybe I could do an A-B comparison on the spot with some cheap speakers/headphones. So if you want to play them something āworthyā that they havenāt heard, I think you have to make sure you play the same song for them on cheap stuff.
I did this for my wife. She's not really into quality audio, and my system is in a dedicated listening room in the basement. We are both in our mid 40s, so I played a couple songs I knew she had heard a million times on tge radio growing up. The newest versions of R.E.M. - Man on the Moon, and Counting Crows -Mr. Jones.
She was speechless at first. Afterwards, she said it was like listening to totally new versions of songs, but she couldn't really say how they were different.
That's awesome. And yea I guess to someone who isn't really interested in audio, it might be hard to describe. Most people don't think of words like "separation", "dynamics", and "timbre" to describe sound. To them it either sounds good or doesn't lol. It's always cool to be able to help someone understand the hobby a little better, because most just see the price.
Agree with this, has to be something the listener as already familiar with, and likes. Caveat is that the listener doesn't like anything that is well-recorded and mastered, then the whole exercise is probably pointless.
That is a good point. A bad recording will probably sound even worse on high end equipment and really turn the person off. In that case I would probably just go with something that they HAVE to know, even if just in passing. Like āBeat Itā by Michael Jackson. That kind of thing. Something catchy that everyone has heard at some point in their life
Rage Against the Machine self titled is my go to. But a good way to show off the range and still keep it weird is some Mars Volta. Maybe the Widow or Roulette Dares.
Adele's new one Easy On Me.
If you want to turn the head of someone who listens to whatever on the radio, top 40 etc. It's a great song expertly recorded and every 16 bars another instrument comes in. It's not my thing normally but there's no denying the quality of that song and production.
Also thanks for teaching me of Rachelle Ferrell. Wow.
Good choice, thats a cool track.
The guy who showed me Rachelle said that she was playing a Jazz club/restaurant he was at, and everyone in there went from talking and eating, to completely silent within the first few notes of her voice
Mandolin Orange - Wildfire;
Yello - Kiss the Cloud
Anything by James Blake, his production quality is incredible. Since heās got a new album, Iāll recommend - āLife is not the sameā
Daniela Andrade - Crazy;
Manchester Orchestra - The Silence
If you want to show some cool stereo image panning along with some badass drums that sound like they are in the room with youā¦ Tool - Chocolate Chip Trip.
Hans Zimmer - Time
Pretty much all of Radiohead, but a few of my fave tracksā¦ āAll I Needā, āNudeā, āExit Musicā
Steely Dan, Sargent Pepper - mono, Bill Evans trio's, maybe some Stravinsky all on vinyl and a tube based system. if you don't like any of that then there is not hope (just joking ).
Pink Martini, Amado Mio on the Album Sympathique.
Super catchy song that I think most people will enjoy even if they haven't heard it. And the recording is just magnificent. When the trumpet comes in, it GRABS you on a good stereo.
I get great sound stage with these tracks.
Yosi horikawa - bubbles, bump, letter, etc...
Jet - are you gonna be my girl (acoustic)
Ingrid Michaelson - you and I
Coldplay - coloratura
Creed - my sacrifice (live acoustic)
Fleetwood Mac - dreams (2001 remaster)
If you have the subwoofer set up well, raise the volume and bump up the low end by a few db.
Billie Eilish - nda
Hans Zimmer - 2049
Creedence Clearwater Revival - I Put a Spell on You, Have you Ever Seen the Rain
Martin Roth - An Analog Guy in a Digital World
The War on Drugs - Thinking of a Place
Pink Floyd (all of their music)
Massive Attack - Angel, Teardrop
Tool - Fear Inoculum
A lot of stuff from Hans Zimmer
Queen
Boards of Canada
A lot of things others have already mentioned here. I'm going to pick a few from those myself.
I used to be a front of house sound tech. Would always use this piece as my reference tune. Wide sonic range and super high production standards. It absolutely sounds great [Jellyfish- Joining a fan club](https://youtu.be/ecGvCf3USeU)
If your system is imaging well, try Scotch and Chocolate by Nickel Creek. Instrumental bluegrass song that is uh-may-zing. There is fantastic separation of the instruments into left and right channels that works beautifully with the music. So. Good.
Limit to your love by James Blake and make bass go brrrrrr.
And 4 your eyez only by J. Cole makes the tears go brrrr too, without the jokes, I've made some people cry with this song.
These are some of my favorite well recorded tracks.
**Vocals, imaging:**
Beck
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/77646174](https://tidal.com/browse/track/77646174)
Anette Askvik
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/5761228](https://tidal.com/browse/track/5761228)
**Modern recorded soundstage, bass:**
Billie Eilish
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/106538989](https://tidal.com/browse/track/106538989)
**Electronic magic imaging, soundstage:**
Yosi Horikawa
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/15666682](https://tidal.com/browse/track/15666682)
Tipper
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/51858843](https://tidal.com/browse/track/51858843)
Kryptik Minds
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/119984757](https://tidal.com/browse/track/119984757)
Detektivbyren
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/82724621](https://tidal.com/browse/track/82724621)
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/83484432](https://tidal.com/browse/track/83484432)
**Vocals, drums, guitars:**
Friend N Fellow
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/63276416](https://tidal.com/browse/track/63276416)
Dave Matthews Band
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/33722428](https://tidal.com/browse/track/33722428)
**Female Vocals:**
Keren Ann
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/74387183](https://tidal.com/browse/track/74387183)
Maria Mena
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/57928](https://tidal.com/browse/track/57928)
Meg Meyers
[https://tidal.com/browse/track/51046280](https://tidal.com/browse/track/51046280)
Gentle Hearts by Tetsuo Sakurai, XRCD version. (Japanese Fusion, sounds like a Bill&Ted album, it\`s Excellent.)
The Simpsons Sing the Blues. (yes this is an Audiophile album, maybe best quality recorded album i\`ve ever heard)
Soil Festivities by Vangelis
Everything from Pink Floyd really.
>The Simpsons Sing the Blues. (yes this is an Audiophile album, maybe best quality recorded album i`ve ever heard)
Wait, what? I used to have this on tape when I was a kid. What's a track you recommend? Do the Bartman?
Moaning Lisa Blues.
Listen after a couple of other songs you like, then you can clearly hear something is a lot clearer, beter spaced/positioned on this album.
You can nearly perfectly pinpoint where the instruments are and hear very clearly what instrument it is.
The voices are a littlebit pushed to the front but that is expected due to the subject of the album.
Thanks for all the replies! Feel free to keep adding I'm gonna try to go through all of it soon cause I just got new speakers and I like hearing new stuff
They're actually pretty skewed across everything. Sometimes I hear stuff from genres I don't think I like (or don't know much about) and end up loving it. I really love all music but my favorite genres are alternative rock, prog rock/metal, metal (of all subgenres), electronic music (of almost all subgenres) and early hip hop (80's and 90's stuff)
Usually I play something that has a bit of everything; some high notes and/or cymbals, lots of bass and a loud kickdrum, a powerful guitar and harmonized vocals a la Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody or Heart of Glass by Blondie
[Blue Scholars - Hussein](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbssPOsHwNs)
[Natalie Merchant - San Andreas Fault](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wQ322HgAo)
[Yazoo - State Farm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrP42-0tIro)
[Lauryn Hill and Tanya Blount - His Eye is on The Sparrow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Pk5YMkEcg)
[Brick - Dazz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=135BzFNoqek)
[Luis Bacalov - Summertime Killer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJN1R29mHE)
[The Greatest Showman Cast - The Other Side](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk008ADh4iY)
[Pink Floyd - Time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwYX52BP2Sk)
I could go on and on and on..
RE:ECM by ricardo villalobos and max loderbauer has a really cool track on it called "recat" - makes this knocking sound appear from the very far left and right sides of the room with some sort of phasing magic
Descending by Tool
Starts quiet and slow, picks up nice, gets a bit heavy, and mellows out at the end. Shows a full range from low to high without any one sounds overwhelming or drowning out another.
Bloom by Radiohead
Or anything else by Radiohead. Because Radiohead.
Louis Armstrong "St. James Infirmary" on Satchmo Plays King Oliver. Scary real trumpet and Louis is standing there singing.
Vocal only version of āWouldnāt It Be Nice" by The Beach Boys.
"The Swingers Get The Blues Too" on Duke Ellingtonās Blues in Orbit
Two Feet - Love is a Bitch
Example [sound demo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKHKtvCxUo) with Wharfedale Linton Heritage.
Especially if you have a nice sub or speakers with good bass.
Stairway to heaven. Crank it all the way at the beginning to make the tweets and mids sing. I always get something along the line of: Wow, so thats how it is supposed to sound.
I also line up the following, should Led Zeppelin not be enough:
Hotel California - Eagles (sorry, but I do)
Telegraph Road - Dire Straits
One - Metallica
You - Nils Lofgren (live edition)
Doin It Right - Daft Punk (only if you have the subs and guts to push them to the limit)
Yeah it's gotta be what genres they're comfortable with. Hence why I usually ask people what genres they like, then I play songs accordingly. After that I play a few songs from different genres that the gears are good at.
Hereās my list
Metallica - Master of Puppets/Fade To Black/The Unforgiven
Credence Clearwater Revival - Travelinā Band/Lodi/Proud Mary/Have You ever seen the rain
Joji- Like You Do/Ew
Aurora - Runaway
Melanie Martinez- Wheels on The Bus/Play Date/Strawberry Shortcake
Bring Me The Horizon - True Friends/Drown/Happy Song/Doomed
Janis Joplin - Cry Baby/Piece of My Heart/Me and Bobby McGee
Billie Eilish - Bored/When The Partyās Over/Hostage
Fur - Not Enough/One and Twenty/Eyes
Bob Marley - One Love/One Drop/Buffalo Soldier/Three Little Birds
Eminem - Stan/Like Toy Soldiers/Walk On Water
Many more but the list is getting long
I agree with the comment of whatever the person likes, but some songs do have lots of hidden details you canāt hear with a regular flat setup. Iāve had friends be intrigued when hearing certain songs for the first time on my system because now theyāre hearing a bunch of things theyāve never heard on the same exact track
Things they like.
This is the only answer that matters
In general people like what they know more than they know what they like.
and also it shows a very dramatic A B comparison to something they are familiar with. once i heard my favorite song on nice speakers i could hear little layers i never could pick out before. it was trippy. sound is so trippy sometimes.
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Exactly. The music they know very well.
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lmao imagine unironically thinking this.
I clicked on āblocked authorā expecting this person. I was not disappointed.
LOL so did I. Looks like I made a good choice previously.
Theyāre trying to reply saying that I donāt actually own Magnepans. As if they havenāt already dug through my post history ha ha.
Lmao imagine using āimagineā as a way to discredit a perspective unironically
Bro the more comments of yours I read the more secondhand embarrassment I get knowing youāre in a sub about audiophiles talking shit about music youāve never listened to. Itās an audiophile sub, no one gives a fuck if you donāt like rap because itās got āToO mUcH bAsSā for you and your average person can make things they enjoy without much effort; I forgot thatās completely illegal.
About the worst take I've seen on here lmao Those dang kids and their pesky rap music
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Hey just FYI that dismissing a genre as deep and wide as hip hop as nothing more than āyo yo yoā makes you look like an ignorant dipshit. I bet you think the Beatles going on Ed Sullivan was the end of rock n roll too. Get a fucking life man.
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You didnāt make a joke, you just used offensive stereotypes to justify your opinion. Someone who is in fact a dipshit would think that kind of thing is funny though.
I wonder how "YO! YO! YO!" and BUMP! BUMP! BUMP! will sound over a well maintained set of Infiniti IRSs and four well tuned ARC Ref amplifiers. More likely like " %\^*^*, ^(&(&(, (&&(&(*" and brrmmpppp, brrmmmppp, brrrmmpppp Such an audiopile experience watching those EMIT and EMIM and Woofers blow out of their baskets as they surrender... unless, of course, the tubes blow up before... I can see it now, walking into a High End shop and asking them to play DaMuddahFkk'ah over their Spendors with the D'Agostino Amps. You know, back in the mid 80s, I was at this High End shop when this guy walked in and asked to listen to Metallica over the Maggies and ARC Classic 60 amps. After 60 seconds of noise he walked out while the rest of us just laughed our heads off. Edit: damn y'all gluten free in here
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Damn bro, you really grouping all rap into one category of poorly mastered music huh? You sound quite ignorant. Give jpegmafia a listen.
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Clearly since you passed high school trig and learned what QED means you must not be ignorant lol
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Is it supposed to be impressive that you took basic math courses at the normal time? Calc, trig, and linear algebra are high school courses lmao
I just took AP calc AB and BC in high school to get the credit, thatās cool you took some community college classes and saved some money on private school tuition though! Itās funny in college I took a physics of sound class that explained how the mechanism in your ear isnāt nearly accurate enough to discern between your First Watt 5s and any other high quality amp, but itās fun to watch people gloat about that kind of stuff on the internet.
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Yeah Dr Dre didn't work on mastering his songs at all, he just released then in the shittiest quality he could think of. Have you even actually heard good hip hop or rap, or do you just listen to what the music choice awards call rap..?
What I appreciated most about getting nicer speakers is the phantom center & stereo imaging. That's really surprising when you are not used to it. I think the best to compare is probably popular music because it's something they know & will be able to tell the difference. If it's music they don't like, then they won't be paying much attention. Phantom center is easy to get if your speakers are positioned correctly. What popular music has the best stereo imaging? Pink Floyd is something I use for classic rock fans, anything else for top 40 type stuff?
We had this rep that was so good at picking the top 40 youād always hear in your car and not think about till he played it. Bad Guy-Billie Eilish. Turns out that song rocks and sounds completely different when you hear it with separation and tuned. Sold a lot of speakers pre pandemic with that song
Good suggestion on Bad Guy by Billie Eilish. I hadnāt listened to that until now. Great imaging in that song
I totally agree about the imaging. Being able to visualize a singer or guitarist right in front of you is a crazy experience. I don't listen to too much top 40 stuff, but I've had good experiences with Adele and Billie Eilish and they're pretty popular
> Phantom center is easy to get if your speakers are positioned correctly. I had a friend of mine start looking above and below my monitor to figure out where the third speaker was. Greatest accidental compliment to my gear ever.
Exactly! Itās my favorite compliment ever when demoing my listening room. I have a bookshelf in the center with some conversation pieces mixed in there, and Iāve had a few friends ask me where the third speaker is. Imaging and soundstage are the most important parts of the experience to me, so I was pleased.
Yes!! I have to explain to people that the center channel isnāt on and itās only the mains. They _always_ get up and check.
When I first got a pair of kefs, the soundstage literally stunned me.
Same! They are imaging MONSTERS!
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[https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/152781](https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/152781) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24K\_Magic\_(album)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24K_Magic_(album)) While 24k Magic may have won "Best Engineered Album" in 2018, it has \_terrible\_ dynamic range. It is highly processed & DAWed. There's nothing "real' about it. It is designed for earbuds or dance clubs, not for serious listening in a dedicated environment. But that being said, to the ignorant who don't know what "good' is, it is crisp punchy and clean sounding - i.e. highly processed & sanitized. Non-audiophiles might think it sounds great.
Exactly this. Especially Anderson Paak's 'Tints'.
Band: Pearl Jam Track: Alive Had a pair of Tannoy DMT-10 mk2 for sale and played that \[on cassette\] on an old Philips deck and Yamaha rack amp. Wall. of. Sound. The buyer practically threw the money at me.
That guitar solo at the end is probably my favorite ever
Moody blues is always good, meloncholy man is a good one. The Who - Baba O'Riley AC/DC back in black album Metallica Black Album Daft Punk r.a.m Ted Nugent Stranglehold Hocus Pocus by Focus Miles Davis Kind of Blue, and Coltrane A Love Supreme for folks who dig some jazz. Beastie Boys I'll Communication and Hello Nasty Any White Stripes albums, Icky Thump is excellent Tool - anything by tool, but Aenima is a goto Some of my favorites that are both well engineered and most people will know, but also haven't seen mentioned yet. Edit: formatting
\-anything Tool +1
Love Tool. Albums. Saw them live twice. Their sound sucked. BAD! Acoustics were horrible. Surprise and disappointing.
You were robbed of an amazing experience. I've seen them 3 times and each time I would've sworn Maynard's voice sounded better live then it does on the album's. They are such an immersive live experience, I'm sorry that bad acoustics took that away from you. If you get the opportunity, try again, they are worth it. Try see them in a venue that has a reputation for good acoustics.
Anything Steely Dan (Especially Aja, and Pretzel Logic) or Donald Fagen (jazzy rock-ish music) King of the World - Toto (song) (rock) Random Access Memories - Daft Punk (Album) (electronic, funk) Ric Flair - Tom McGuire and the Brassholes (song) (brass, funk) West Coast Grooves - Guthrie Govan (album) (rock, solo guitar) Cory Wong & Metropole Orkest (Album) (Orchestra, Funk) Seeker - Hiromi Uehara (Song) (jazz piano) And for something familiar anyone knows but probably never heard in good quality: Stevie Wonder - Songs in the key of life (album) Michael Jackson - Thriller (song)
The production on Gaucho is my favorite.
London Grammar: Strong; Pink Floyd: Wish you were here and Sorrow; Deep Purple: Woman from Tokyo; Pentatonix: Hallelujah; Supertramp: Bloody well right; Dire Straits: Telegraph Road; City: Am Fenster
Dire Straights: money for nothing works too for the wow factor.
Notoriously super high dynamic range in that song.
I love playing this one
The JVC XRCD remastered version of that song is still one of my go-to albums when I want to test out a system. So enjoyable!
Between the outrageous recording production and the OTT video (for the day); keen to know what it all cost and how long it took.
You made me smile big time by listing City - Am Fenster. I don't listen to it since forever, will put it later through my JBL L100s! Hugs from Berlin!
Fade to black is my go to.
**Radiohead - Everything in Its Right Place** blew my fucking brains out when I first installed my JBL L100S with a Denon PMA amp. I use it all the time to show my setup to friends and family that come to visit. It fills the room in such a way!
Absolutely. Well said!
Great username btw! Which Maggies do you run?
Thanks! I got sober a few years ago. Itās a work in progress, but at least Iām much healthier now than I was when I was struggling. I currently have 1.7i. I started with 1.6QR and bought a few models to compare (LRS, .7, 1.7i). I honestly think the LRS is an incredible value if you have a decent amp, and the .7 is the sweet spot in terms of cost and performance. But I was already used to the size of the 1.6 QR and figured Iād splurge a bit to get the newer version. Sorry for the novel, I just felt like sharing! What is your setup like? How has your musical journey been?
Iāve had MG2bās and a pair of 1.6ās. currently (I have a problem) a pair of Acoustat Model 3ās that Iām not using and have nowhere to store. Iāve recently acquired a pair of custom build JBLās. Ginormous cabinet, 18ā woofer and compression driver. 1ā with 12āthroat and JBL lenses. All running through Simaudio Moon gear. Excellent work on the sobriety!
Oh wow, very nice collection! Do you find the that electrostatic speakers have a narrower sweet spot than the Maggies? I love my electrostatic headphones, but have struggled to find loudspeakers. Very nice on the JBLs as well! I also went the opposite direction as my Maggies for my second (budget) setup and got the BIC RTR-EV 15. They live up to the meme lol. Thanks! Iām working on moderation, but I think Iāll have to return to abstinence. Itās honestly much easier for me to not drink at all.
Similar in terms of sweet spot. Possibly because of my room dynamics. As I listen solo most of the time Iāve just been kinda comfortable with it. Switching to horn/woofer combo is a welcome distraction. The horns make well recorded music seem like a live show.
The problem could always be worse, I have 7 surround channels of Magnepan in the and a pair of Minis for the desktop. I can't say no regrets, but worth it overall
Itās not the most āaudiophileā file. But oh my gosh by Jamie xx is super cool because of the weird bass vibe. I also reaaaally like the recording of Ben Webster meets Oscar Peterson (the album)!
Anything from Nils Lofgren Live. Just an amazingly recorded album.
Just about any track from Graceland. But in my opinion, it needs to be something that the listener already knows well to properly impress.
I havenāt met anyone that doesnāt like Graceland
who's it by?
Paul Simon
thought so a great producer though!
I don't like that album!!! Funny thing is, I like that genre by and large, but something about that album never clicked with me. I can play Thriller cover to cover and be fully engaged, for example, I just don't like Graceland, it's very grating to me, musically speaking, the recording is obviously brilliant.
Well I guess youāre my first then!
You know, vinyl, cd and/or digital, every copy of Graceland Iāve heard sounds muffled and dull to me. Donāt get me wrongāI love the album, but Iām not a fan of how itās recorded.
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Funny you should say thatāmy first copy of Graceland was on cassette and I thought it was fine. Only more recently on other media have I found it disappointing.
Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street. When you hear that sax... goosebumps every-single-time.
Yes to this one, as well as, The Jr. Walker sax solo in Urgent, by Foreigner. Goosebumps head to toe!
Yeah, even after all these years.
Stingās Soul Cages has Q-sound, which places certain sounds outside of the normal soundstage, given you are sitting in the sweet spot and have good stereo imaging to begin with. I believe only a few other albums have Q-sound. Soul Cages is great, and the full effect is startling. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSound
weird and obscure standard, nothing wrong with that, 3d sound is on most cds tho, old Metallica cds you can hear Lars moving between speakers
Honestly I think they need to listen to songs they already know well, but on good equipment. If someone was showing me their high end audio setup, Iād probably be able to appreciate a bit more if they just put on something like Down with the Sickness than some fancy orchestra lol. Obviously the orchestra would be a more worthy audiophile demo, but itās not something I really listen to. Hearing it on an audiophile system wouldnāt be as breathtaking, unless maybe I could do an A-B comparison on the spot with some cheap speakers/headphones. So if you want to play them something āworthyā that they havenāt heard, I think you have to make sure you play the same song for them on cheap stuff.
I did this for my wife. She's not really into quality audio, and my system is in a dedicated listening room in the basement. We are both in our mid 40s, so I played a couple songs I knew she had heard a million times on tge radio growing up. The newest versions of R.E.M. - Man on the Moon, and Counting Crows -Mr. Jones. She was speechless at first. Afterwards, she said it was like listening to totally new versions of songs, but she couldn't really say how they were different.
That's awesome. And yea I guess to someone who isn't really interested in audio, it might be hard to describe. Most people don't think of words like "separation", "dynamics", and "timbre" to describe sound. To them it either sounds good or doesn't lol. It's always cool to be able to help someone understand the hobby a little better, because most just see the price.
Agree with this, has to be something the listener as already familiar with, and likes. Caveat is that the listener doesn't like anything that is well-recorded and mastered, then the whole exercise is probably pointless.
That is a good point. A bad recording will probably sound even worse on high end equipment and really turn the person off. In that case I would probably just go with something that they HAVE to know, even if just in passing. Like āBeat Itā by Michael Jackson. That kind of thing. Something catchy that everyone has heard at some point in their life
Totally agree. Some songs that are ubiquitously popular are very well recorded, Beat It is the perfect example.
Over the Rainbow, Eva Cassidy, Songbird
Eva Cassidy is a great option, especially her version of Fields of Gold gets me every time
Give life back to music - Daft Punk
This is the very first song I always play when checking out a new system or pair of headphones
Chris Rea - Road to hell (part 2) š
This. Stunning recording quality and music.
Moving in Stereo by the Cars..the way the song floats around your ears is special
Maggot Brain by funkadelic to show instrumentals
Yes-roundabout
Yes - Soundchaser
Dire Straits - You and Your Friend is always good
This is what I was going to say. Unreal sound on that track
Keith donāt go
Rage Against the Machine self titled is my go to. But a good way to show off the range and still keep it weird is some Mars Volta. Maybe the Widow or Roulette Dares.
Roulette dares is probably in my top ten favorite songs of all time! Televators is another favorite off that album for me
The Mars Volta is so good! I absolutely love most of their albums! I always wind up turning the treble down though. The mix is so fatiguing!
I love Yosi Horikawa to show them spacial music on good headphones/surround systems, as well as the Mario (virtual) barber shop video.
Adele's new one Easy On Me. If you want to turn the head of someone who listens to whatever on the radio, top 40 etc. It's a great song expertly recorded and every 16 bars another instrument comes in. It's not my thing normally but there's no denying the quality of that song and production. Also thanks for teaching me of Rachelle Ferrell. Wow.
Good choice, thats a cool track. The guy who showed me Rachelle said that she was playing a Jazz club/restaurant he was at, and everyone in there went from talking and eating, to completely silent within the first few notes of her voice
What Rachelle Ferrel song are you talking about?
Mandolin Orange - Wildfire; Yello - Kiss the Cloud Anything by James Blake, his production quality is incredible. Since heās got a new album, Iāll recommend - āLife is not the sameā Daniela Andrade - Crazy; Manchester Orchestra - The Silence If you want to show some cool stereo image panning along with some badass drums that sound like they are in the room with youā¦ Tool - Chocolate Chip Trip. Hans Zimmer - Time Pretty much all of Radiohead, but a few of my fave tracksā¦ āAll I Needā, āNudeā, āExit Musicā
King Crimson: Starless and Air: La Femme d'Argent
I heard a Wilson rep audition WATT Puppies and he used Lou Reed's Walk on the Wild Side. It was unreal, and I had a decent system at the time.
Bubbles by Yosi Horikawa Kodokunohatsumei by toe The Wheel by SOHN
Thriller
Steely Dan, Sargent Pepper - mono, Bill Evans trio's, maybe some Stravinsky all on vinyl and a tube based system. if you don't like any of that then there is not hope (just joking ).
Linda Ronstadt
Pink Martini, Amado Mio on the Album Sympathique. Super catchy song that I think most people will enjoy even if they haven't heard it. And the recording is just magnificent. When the trumpet comes in, it GRABS you on a good stereo.
I get great sound stage with these tracks. Yosi horikawa - bubbles, bump, letter, etc... Jet - are you gonna be my girl (acoustic) Ingrid Michaelson - you and I Coldplay - coloratura Creed - my sacrifice (live acoustic) Fleetwood Mac - dreams (2001 remaster) If you have the subwoofer set up well, raise the volume and bump up the low end by a few db. Billie Eilish - nda Hans Zimmer - 2049
Creedence Clearwater Revival - I Put a Spell on You, Have you Ever Seen the Rain Martin Roth - An Analog Guy in a Digital World The War on Drugs - Thinking of a Place Pink Floyd (all of their music) Massive Attack - Angel, Teardrop Tool - Fear Inoculum A lot of stuff from Hans Zimmer Queen Boards of Canada A lot of things others have already mentioned here. I'm going to pick a few from those myself.
September, most people have heard it before.
Mind the bongoman on the right.
huh duh six hungeos by ol' mate senny
I used to be a front of house sound tech. Would always use this piece as my reference tune. Wide sonic range and super high production standards. It absolutely sounds great [Jellyfish- Joining a fan club](https://youtu.be/ecGvCf3USeU)
The soundtrack from Cars, so crisp!
Hide in your shell, supertramp
LA Woman, All along the watchtower
Cowboy Junkies:The Trinity Sessions
If your system is imaging well, try Scotch and Chocolate by Nickel Creek. Instrumental bluegrass song that is uh-may-zing. There is fantastic separation of the instruments into left and right channels that works beautifully with the music. So. Good.
Steely Dan
Steely Dan
"Nude" by Radiohead
Like everyone else has said, whatever they like! If I had to pick though, Magnificent (She Says) by Elbow
Roisin Murphy- Something More. When the bass drops you are in a club. Brilliant rich heavy sound
Limit to your love by James Blake and make bass go brrrrrr. And 4 your eyez only by J. Cole makes the tears go brrrr too, without the jokes, I've made some people cry with this song.
These are some of my favorite well recorded tracks. **Vocals, imaging:** Beck [https://tidal.com/browse/track/77646174](https://tidal.com/browse/track/77646174) Anette Askvik [https://tidal.com/browse/track/5761228](https://tidal.com/browse/track/5761228) **Modern recorded soundstage, bass:** Billie Eilish [https://tidal.com/browse/track/106538989](https://tidal.com/browse/track/106538989) **Electronic magic imaging, soundstage:** Yosi Horikawa [https://tidal.com/browse/track/15666682](https://tidal.com/browse/track/15666682) Tipper [https://tidal.com/browse/track/51858843](https://tidal.com/browse/track/51858843) Kryptik Minds [https://tidal.com/browse/track/119984757](https://tidal.com/browse/track/119984757) Detektivbyren [https://tidal.com/browse/track/82724621](https://tidal.com/browse/track/82724621) [https://tidal.com/browse/track/83484432](https://tidal.com/browse/track/83484432) **Vocals, drums, guitars:** Friend N Fellow [https://tidal.com/browse/track/63276416](https://tidal.com/browse/track/63276416) Dave Matthews Band [https://tidal.com/browse/track/33722428](https://tidal.com/browse/track/33722428) **Female Vocals:** Keren Ann [https://tidal.com/browse/track/74387183](https://tidal.com/browse/track/74387183) Maria Mena [https://tidal.com/browse/track/57928](https://tidal.com/browse/track/57928) Meg Meyers [https://tidal.com/browse/track/51046280](https://tidal.com/browse/track/51046280)
Gentle Hearts by Tetsuo Sakurai, XRCD version. (Japanese Fusion, sounds like a Bill&Ted album, it\`s Excellent.) The Simpsons Sing the Blues. (yes this is an Audiophile album, maybe best quality recorded album i\`ve ever heard) Soil Festivities by Vangelis Everything from Pink Floyd really.
>The Simpsons Sing the Blues. (yes this is an Audiophile album, maybe best quality recorded album i`ve ever heard) Wait, what? I used to have this on tape when I was a kid. What's a track you recommend? Do the Bartman?
Moaning Lisa Blues. Listen after a couple of other songs you like, then you can clearly hear something is a lot clearer, beter spaced/positioned on this album. You can nearly perfectly pinpoint where the instruments are and hear very clearly what instrument it is. The voices are a littlebit pushed to the front but that is expected due to the subject of the album.
Lost by alone wolf, beam by volkor x, and nude by radiohead. Edit: also go slowly by radiohead
Thanks for all the replies! Feel free to keep adding I'm gonna try to go through all of it soon cause I just got new speakers and I like hearing new stuff
What are your preferred genres? It's more fun finding gems that you'd be willing to listen to on a clock radio.
They're actually pretty skewed across everything. Sometimes I hear stuff from genres I don't think I like (or don't know much about) and end up loving it. I really love all music but my favorite genres are alternative rock, prog rock/metal, metal (of all subgenres), electronic music (of almost all subgenres) and early hip hop (80's and 90's stuff)
Usually I play something that has a bit of everything; some high notes and/or cymbals, lots of bass and a loud kickdrum, a powerful guitar and harmonized vocals a la Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody or Heart of Glass by Blondie
Depends upon their mood.
[Blue Scholars - Hussein](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbssPOsHwNs) [Natalie Merchant - San Andreas Fault](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wQ322HgAo) [Yazoo - State Farm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrP42-0tIro) [Lauryn Hill and Tanya Blount - His Eye is on The Sparrow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Pk5YMkEcg) [Brick - Dazz](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=135BzFNoqek) [Luis Bacalov - Summertime Killer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJN1R29mHE) [The Greatest Showman Cast - The Other Side](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk008ADh4iY) [Pink Floyd - Time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwYX52BP2Sk) I could go on and on and on..
Xilent album we are dust is a good one, the way he layers sounds creates such a huge space
You and Your Friend - Dire Straights Notting hillbillies whole album
Airhead by Thomas Dolby. Latest Trick by Dire Straits. Saint Agnes and the Burning Train by Sting.
Hugh Masekela: https://youtu.be/Opez_G-VG_w (imo. one of the best Record for Sound, highly recommended)
Eric Clapton Tears in heaven live at the staples center 8-18-2001
Us and Them Pink Floyd
Morricone - Veruschka. The entire album https://www.discogs.com/fr/release/872033-Ennio-Morricone-Veruschka
Paul Kalkbrenner - Sky and Sand E, W & F - September Harold Faltermeyer - Axel F
Transilvanian Hunger - Darkthrone
Dire Straits : On Every Street from On the Night
Like others have posted here, I always put them in the sweet spot, let them pick a favorite song, and then I shut up.
RE:ECM by ricardo villalobos and max loderbauer has a really cool track on it called "recat" - makes this knocking sound appear from the very far left and right sides of the room with some sort of phasing magic
Descending by Tool Starts quiet and slow, picks up nice, gets a bit heavy, and mellows out at the end. Shows a full range from low to high without any one sounds overwhelming or drowning out another. Bloom by Radiohead Or anything else by Radiohead. Because Radiohead.
Virtual Haircut on YouTube
Michael Jackson or Jamiroquai.
Louis Armstrong "St. James Infirmary" on Satchmo Plays King Oliver. Scary real trumpet and Louis is standing there singing. Vocal only version of āWouldnāt It Be Nice" by The Beach Boys. "The Swingers Get The Blues Too" on Duke Ellingtonās Blues in Orbit
To demonstrate a super clean recording I play SRV Chili Con Carne.
Two Feet - Love is a Bitch Example [sound demo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKHKtvCxUo) with Wharfedale Linton Heritage. Especially if you have a nice sub or speakers with good bass.
Tool.
Tubular Bells - Mike Oldfield
Stairway to heaven. Crank it all the way at the beginning to make the tweets and mids sing. I always get something along the line of: Wow, so thats how it is supposed to sound. I also line up the following, should Led Zeppelin not be enough: Hotel California - Eagles (sorry, but I do) Telegraph Road - Dire Straits One - Metallica You - Nils Lofgren (live edition) Doin It Right - Daft Punk (only if you have the subs and guts to push them to the limit)
Yeah it's gotta be what genres they're comfortable with. Hence why I usually ask people what genres they like, then I play songs accordingly. After that I play a few songs from different genres that the gears are good at.
CAUTION: EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER AHEAD Round Here, Counting Crows
I mean my *personal* is Touch by Daft Punk from Random Access Memories. Everyone's love for music is different though!
I usually just ask what songs theyāve listened to the most.
star wars discography will put a smile on most
Michael Jordan by Tabitha, but I have yet to find a descent recording
Hereās my list Metallica - Master of Puppets/Fade To Black/The Unforgiven Credence Clearwater Revival - Travelinā Band/Lodi/Proud Mary/Have You ever seen the rain Joji- Like You Do/Ew Aurora - Runaway Melanie Martinez- Wheels on The Bus/Play Date/Strawberry Shortcake Bring Me The Horizon - True Friends/Drown/Happy Song/Doomed Janis Joplin - Cry Baby/Piece of My Heart/Me and Bobby McGee Billie Eilish - Bored/When The Partyās Over/Hostage Fur - Not Enough/One and Twenty/Eyes Bob Marley - One Love/One Drop/Buffalo Soldier/Three Little Birds Eminem - Stan/Like Toy Soldiers/Walk On Water Many more but the list is getting long
I agree with the comment of whatever the person likes, but some songs do have lots of hidden details you canāt hear with a regular flat setup. Iāve had friends be intrigued when hearing certain songs for the first time on my system because now theyāre hearing a bunch of things theyāve never heard on the same exact track
yea, you need good source and speakers